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Ricky Lim
If Malaysia want to stop buying treated water from Singapore:-
(1) We need to check - will it infringe the Water Agreement signed in 1962 and will it infringe the Separation Agreement 1965.
If no, I think we should be very happy about it.
Because we can stop subsidisying them treated water :- We can save RM$1.90 sen (per 1000 gallons) of subsidy to Malaysia.
(2) We must stand firm on our position that we continue to pay them 3 sen of raw water - as per the Water Agreement 1962.
(3) We must also stand firm on the Water Agreement 1962 that Johor will continue to supply us raw water up to 2061 and honor all the terms and conditions stated in the Water Agreement that are accrued to us.
(1) We need to check - will it infringe the Water Agreement signed in 1962 and will it infringe the Separation Agreement 1965.
If no, I think we should be very happy about it.
Because we can stop subsidisying them treated water :- We can save RM$1.90 sen (per 1000 gallons) of subsidy to Malaysia.
(2) We must stand firm on our position that we continue to pay them 3 sen of raw water - as per the Water Agreement 1962.
(3) We must also stand firm on the Water Agreement 1962 that Johor will continue to supply us raw water up to 2061 and honor all the terms and conditions stated in the Water Agreement that are accrued to us.
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Ricky Lim
Mutual government guarantees of water agreements
"The Government of Malaysia shall guarantee that the Government of the State of Johore will on and after Singapore Day also abide by the terms and conditions of the said two Water Agreements." ===== which form the part of Separate Agreement 1965.
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If Mahathir breach the above clause --- we can bring them to International Court.
"The Government of Malaysia shall guarantee that the Government of the State of Johore will on and after Singapore Day also abide by the terms and conditions of the said two Water Agreements." ===== which form the part of Separate Agreement 1965.
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If Mahathir breach the above clause --- we can bring them to International Court.
Kua Hoe Say
$M Ministers seized on this opportunity to save SG $300M, set a date line to implement, and bark on it day in day out.
Georgie Lee
Talk less. Show to us your capability
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Choon Tiong
Mini, mani, mini, more - Malaysia will ask for more treated water from Singapore in future.
Vincent Tan
1 way track thinking. Really think out of the box. Out source water treatment to Singapore with 50 years agreement to provide quality water instead. Everyone knows Singapore will abide by black and white agreement type. No need to be afraid as long got black and white. Malaysia can focus on other strengths, why waste good money if others can do better with trusted quality.
Wahsi Ninlaupeh
Well that's Malaysia. Focusing on strengths and specialization are not what they are known for.
Their leaders are adventurous. If you recall, one of their great leaders tried to manufacture cars
Their leaders are adventurous. If you recall, one of their great leaders tried to manufacture cars
Vincent Tan
There is only 1 buyer for Malaysia water. Singapore can desalinate water. Obviously, lose lose in the end. Seriously need a more strategic thinker as ......
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Melvin Leong
common sense will ask for more treated water at 50 cents per THOUSAND gallons and to make sure the treaty last forever.
Kelvyn Chin
Exactly. I sell you raw materials cheap, but buy back finished good cheap, it's good business. Why they never mention the $ of water sold to consumers in Johore?
Ng XiangQi
Kelvyn Chin you are right...win win. The old snake is waiting for Singapore to mention about the price sold to the Johore ppl. This will create dispute between the royal and Singapore which is precisely what the old snake wanted.
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Terence Ng
johore should have treated it's own water long time ago. Singapore have been subsidizing them for these years.
Christopher Goh
So they gonna drink "Longkang jui " ?
Knowing their reliability, and extreme efficiency, they will prob be drinking longkang jui soon ....hahahhaa
Knowing their reliability, and extreme efficiency, they will prob be drinking longkang jui soon ....hahahhaa
Loh Ai
SG will be happier if Johor stop buying treated water from her. But whose decision is that to do so? Putrajaya, Mahathir, Johor state govt or the Johor Royal family? Consider it very carefully. Pennywise, ringgits foolish!
Masa Soh Mengming
And if they do stop buying treated water and I think that decision will be made illegally by Putrajaya, I really think more grist will be added to the mill in the push for Johor's independence from the Federation.
The current arrangement is a win win for Johor and Singapore and that is perhaps what the Mamak who hates both the Johor monarchy and Singapore does not want to see.
The current arrangement is a win win for Johor and Singapore and that is perhaps what the Mamak who hates both the Johor monarchy and Singapore does not want to see.
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Chippy Chip
They should t
reat their water and call it MaWater or Mahater. Promise you Malaysia will never have water problems. US, China, India, Indonesia, Africa, Saudi Arabia etc will buy and Malaysia will be the richest country.
reat their water and call it MaWater or Mahater. Promise you Malaysia will never have water problems. US, China, India, Indonesia, Africa, Saudi Arabia etc will buy and Malaysia will be the richest country.
Frank Kam
Does the Malaysian dare to ban their citizens from coming to Singapore to work ??? Do it if you dare !!! You will face the biggest revolt by MY citizens ! Don't talk about not buying treated water from SG... It's the millions of dollars brought back by Malaysians working is SG that is important to MY !!! If the SNAKE and his worm FM got the gall and guts ... do it !!!
Roger Lim
I think everyone misunderstood rge Minister Xavier Jayakumar lah.
What the Minister is trying to stress is that he doesn't want Johor to continue getting the privilege of buying water at a cheap discounted price of 50 sens for 2,000 gallons of treated water without having to spend a billion dollars in the treatment system.
What he wants is for Johor to be independent by spending a billion dollars for the water treatment infrastructure and thereafter spending RM2.70 to treat every 1,000 gallons of water so that the Johor govt cannot profit from retailing the water too much lah.
He's a very smart minister leh. So, Malaysia Boleh.
What the Minister is trying to stress is that he doesn't want Johor to continue getting the privilege of buying water at a cheap discounted price of 50 sens for 2,000 gallons of treated water without having to spend a billion dollars in the treatment system.
What he wants is for Johor to be independent by spending a billion dollars for the water treatment infrastructure and thereafter spending RM2.70 to treat every 1,000 gallons of water so that the Johor govt cannot profit from retailing the water too much lah.
He's a very smart minister leh. So, Malaysia Boleh.
James Lim
As the headline saids... "Johor 'MAY' stop buying'... doesn't mean IMMEDIATELY... doesn't mean SOON... doesn't even have a date...
Because its only a study which MAY or MAY NOT be of any outcome...
Because its only a study which MAY or MAY NOT be of any outcome...
A Ganapathy A Ganapathy
Wow that's great news for Singapore, in fact Singapore loss nothing gain nothing from selling treated water to Johore. Result are out before they take stand. Water Resource Ministry knows they would loss the case, bravo you play the game well. Stop buying water from Singapore so that's the final word from you, hope you don't regret bro🙏
Ang Soonhin
3cents is about $3000 in
Year 2019 .buy 50cents & sell a few times higher for 50 years .Basar anti talking ??????
Year 2019 .buy 50cents & sell a few times higher for 50 years .Basar anti talking ??????
Sharil Bin Saharudin
Macam ini sudah terbalik.
Why must submit the report to mahdey? Mahdey doesnt buy the water. Johore does. So the report should go to Johore Sultan. Then Johore Sultan tell Mahdey what to do based on the report. Not mahdey telling the Johore Sultan what to with his state's water.
Btw, I sincerely hope Johore does treat its own water. Sincerely, good luck and all the best.
Why must submit the report to mahdey? Mahdey doesnt buy the water. Johore does. So the report should go to Johore Sultan. Then Johore Sultan tell Mahdey what to do based on the report. Not mahdey telling the Johore Sultan what to with his state's water.
Btw, I sincerely hope Johore does treat its own water. Sincerely, good luck and all the best.
Sharil Bin Saharudin
Come to think of it, how objective and transparent is this report since it is coming from putrajaya, not Johore?
What if Johore is actually not ready to treat its own water but Mahdey's report falsely conclude otherwise just to serve his agenda of pressuring SG?
If so, Johoreans will be the ones paying the price of Mahdey's folly, not SG.
What if Johore is actually not ready to treat its own water but Mahdey's report falsely conclude otherwise just to serve his agenda of pressuring SG?
If so, Johoreans will be the ones paying the price of Mahdey's folly, not SG.
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Agrosk Kar
That report reveals the level of intelligence of the malaysian government. If they hope the island is going to suffer miserably for want of a continuing sale of water then the disappointment will be downright crushing.
Nicole Tan
As a Singaporean, I am glad of this development. Singapore and Malaysia must cut off as much links as possible and develop alternatives sources for goods and services currently being traded.
Only than can there be a normalisation of relationship based on equality and respect. Personally I wish for a future where no Singaporean has to hear another word coming out from Malaysian politicians again.
Only than can there be a normalisation of relationship based on equality and respect. Personally I wish for a future where no Singaporean has to hear another word coming out from Malaysian politicians again.
Yeok Fong Yong
Finally these Ketuaaen Melayu realised that in life, you must not depend on others. After 61 years of having the tongkat, throwing away and stand on own two feet may take sometime. Don’t worry, Singapore will be here when you need the tongkat back! What’s neighbour for if not to help each other….
Kianpheng Ong
dr m once again prove he is a fool.he spend all his entire political life cracking his brain how to create obstacle for Singapore.Instead of getting together with Singapore as a partner to compete with rest of the world .malaysia was in debts when he was in charged decades ago .His entire political life it's a failure.
Roger Lim
The simple fact that with is present arrangement, Johor is making about RM10 million every year.
If and when Johor takes over, they will be making about RM3 million every year as the treated water is not discounted anymore and nobody is buying their raw water which they got for free from the sky.
So you think Johor wants this arrangement to remain or not?
It's the old senile man who is greedy. That's why this issue came out.
If and when Johor takes over, they will be making about RM3 million every year as the treated water is not discounted anymore and nobody is buying their raw water which they got for free from the sky.
So you think Johor wants this arrangement to remain or not?
It's the old senile man who is greedy. That's why this issue came out.
Swee Meng Ling
Well wishes.
Hope this is sincere attempt, and as soon as they start to plan, to implement, to operate, and finally the water to flow, they shall be thankful to SGP.
Hope this is sincere attempt, and as soon as they start to plan, to implement, to operate, and finally the water to flow, they shall be thankful to SGP.
Keith Tan
Dr M may purpose is not abt the puny money n water but to :
1) divert ph problems to sg. We becum the blame for their problems n ppl forgot their problems.
2) make jb ppl hate sg. So sultan of johor cant declare independent n work with sg like brunei
3)forces sg to give in some projects which benefits sg but detrimental to msia like pasir seletar airport n their new ship to ship port
Actually, sg has always been their punching bag n their biz always being targetting sg biz. What we need to do is help johor independent n then see malaysia disintegrate becoz johor is their top 2 revenue for tax n part of this revenue is from SG ppl. Johor deserve to be like brunei n ppl be rich. Same for sarawak n sabah. They shld get rid of parasite from north n cental west malaysia. The 3 dun depend on these leeches parasites.
1) divert ph problems to sg. We becum the blame for their problems n ppl forgot their problems.
2) make jb ppl hate sg. So sultan of johor cant declare independent n work with sg like brunei
3)forces sg to give in some projects which benefits sg but detrimental to msia like pasir seletar airport n their new ship to ship port
Actually, sg has always been their punching bag n their biz always being targetting sg biz. What we need to do is help johor independent n then see malaysia disintegrate becoz johor is their top 2 revenue for tax n part of this revenue is from SG ppl. Johor deserve to be like brunei n ppl be rich. Same for sarawak n sabah. They shld get rid of parasite from north n cental west malaysia. The 3 dun depend on these leeches parasites.
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