Tuesday, February 3, 2026

REACH (Telegram) 118 -   What are your thoughts on the issues to be discussed in Parliament today? Which issue interests you the most?

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03 Feb 2026 (10am - 7pm)


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REACH Singapore, [3/2/2026 10:17 am]

๐Ÿ“ข Topic ๐Ÿ“ข

Parliament will sit today (3 Feb) at 12:00pm. Parliamentary questions will discuss rising rents in historic districts, food safety in school central kitchens, and a new scheme to refund reusable drink containers.

๐Ÿ’ฌ What are your thoughts on the issues to be discussed in Parliament today? Which issue interests you the most?

๐Ÿ“Œ Rising Rent in Heritage Areas

Jalan Besar GRC MP Denise Phua has asked what measures the Government is taking to moderate rent increases in heritage areas such as Chinatown and Kampong Gelam to support heritage businesses and prevent their displacement.

Questions were also filed on rising rents, asking whether the Government is aware of the “trend of bidding wars and subletting” in the historic district, and what it intends to do about it.

๐Ÿ“Œ Beverage Container Return Scheme

Five MPs from both sides of the House have also filed questions about a new scheme which will from April 1 allow people to get a 10-cent refund to their ez-link 

cards for returning reusable beverage containers. Under the programme, customers will pay an additional 10 cents in refundable deposit for bottled and canned drinks ranging from 150ml to 3 litres. 

Sembawang West MP Poh Li San has asked how the National Environment Agency will ensure that consumers know where the vending machines under this scheme are placed. She has also asked how it will also make sure that shops do not sell beverages in non-returnable containers at the same price as those in returnable containers. 

MP Kenneth Tiong, who represents Aljunied GRC, has asked what assessment was made of the affordability impact of the scheme on lower-income households before confirming the April 2026 launch, given that it is projected to add 25 cents to 60 cents to the prices of bottled and canned drinks, of which only 10 cents is refundable. 

๐Ÿ“Œ Central Kitchen Model and Food Safety in Schools

Questions have also been filed about the Education Ministry’s implementation of a central kitchen model for school canteens and its relation to recent cases of gastroenteritis.

Tanjong Pagar GRC MP Rachel Ong has asked if the Government will proactively engage displaced food and beverage operators to mitigate the ongoing shortage of canteen stall operators in schools.

A question was also raised on the 60 cases of gastroenteritis at River Valley Primary School and its link to the food provided under the new central kitchen meal model.

๐Ÿ“Œ Bill on Coastal Protection

A new Bill on coastal protection Parliament will also be introduced. 

It is introducing new laws on coastal protection that are meant to define the roles and responsibilities of the relevant stakeholders, safeguard land needed for coastal protection measures, and ensure that coastal protection requirements are met and sustained over time.

 ๐Ÿ“Œ Land Transport and Related Matters Bill

Introduced by Acting Transport Minister Jeffrey Siow on Jan 12, the Bill will make it illegal from mid-2026 to keep e-scooters that do not meet fire safety standards, even if they are not used. It will also introduce other measures like a Certificate of Medical Need, which will be required for a person to drive or ride a mobility scooter on public paths; mandatory registration of mobility scooters; and the lowering of the speed limit of personal mobility aids from 10kmh to 6kmh.

All Singapore-registered motor vehicles have to be fitted with an on-board unit to use public roads; there will be heavier penalties for illegally modified vehicles; and missed Electronic Road Pricing charges will be decriminalised.

๐Ÿ“Œ Other Issues

Other parliamentary questions include inaccurate bus arrival information, the Home Improvement Programme, property tax, the Government’s stance about the US’ claims over Greenland and AI in the workforce.

๐Ÿ‘‰ https://www.parliament.gov.sg/docs/default-source/order-paper/order-paper---3feb2026.pdf

๐Ÿ‘‰  https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/parliament-to-discuss-rising-rents-in-heritage-areas-food-safety-in-school-central-kitchens

REACH Singapore, [3/2/2026 10:17 am]

๐Ÿ‘‰ https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/an-incredibly-difficult-decision-warong-nasi-pariaman-apologises-for-sudden-notice-of-closure

๐Ÿ‘‰  https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/environment/public-can-use-ez-link-card-to-get-10-cent-refund-when-recycling-drink-bottles-cans-from-april

๐Ÿ‘‰  https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/parliament-to-discuss-rising-rents-in-heritage-areas-food-safety-in-school-central-kitchens 

๐Ÿ‘‰  https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/parliament-to-discuss-rising-rents-in-heritage-areas-food-safety-in-school-central-kitchens

๐Ÿ‘‰  https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/new-bill-proposes-stricter-rules-for-mobility-devices-tougher-penalties-for-illegally-altering

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REACH Singapore, [3/2/2026 11:00 am]

[ Poll : Which issue(s) are you most interested in for today's Parliament sitting? Share your reasons in the chat! (You may choose more than one option.)

 ]

- Rising Rent in Heritage Areas

- Beverage Container Return Scheme (BCRS)

- Central Kitchen Model and Food Safety in Schools

- Bill on Coastal Protection

- Land Transport and Related Matters Bill

- Others (Please share your views in the chats below)

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 11:04 am]

E-scooter regulation is fine and all, but how going to enforce?

Especially if keep in house? Can bring charges afterwards when houses burn down, but does not prevent them from keeping inside in the meantime and being a danger to everyone living around them

REACH Singapore, [3/2/2026 11:06 am]

Dear Contributors,

We want to HEAR MORE from you! ๐Ÿ˜Š

๐Ÿ’ฌ What are your thoughts on the issues to be discussed in Parliament today? Which issue interests you the most?

We have had good feedback from this group, and we hope that we can keep the discussion robust and active! 

Do also share your opinion by participating in our polls! The poll questions are pinned for easy reference, and your vote is anonymous. You can choose more than one option. 

Thank you!

Megan ๐Ÿ˜Š


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 11:18 am]

1. For those owning eScooter or eBike, is there a registry to register their eBike, licence number, owner, address, etc like car ownership kept by LTA?


2. If such eBike registry is mandated, then enforcement of illegal eBike can be effective.


3. Yearly inspection like car inspection will also discourage eBike owners from buying illegal eBike or modify their eBike.


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 11:24 am]

4. eBike without licence number will be illegal and cannot go on the road.

Hence no incentive for people to buy illegal non-registered PMD.


Nicholas, [3/2/2026 11:24 am]

E-scooters catching fire, causing residential unit fires and injuries or deaths is of major concern.  I hope the law can be enacted immediately rather than wait till mid-2026. Why is there even a need to delay implementation?

Daniel, [3/2/2026 11:26 am]

Isn't this already the case? I think got number plate.


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 11:27 am]

Oh is it?

I didn't notice.


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 11:28 am]

Then illegal eBike cannot go on the road - so should be safe for everyone.


Daniel, [3/2/2026 11:29 am]

Only for ebike though, not sure what's the rule for PMA/PMD


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 11:30 am]

Then should also apply to PMD and PMA.


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 11:31 am]

Because PMD and PMA illegal ones trigger alot of home fire.


REACH Singapore, [3/2/2026 12:00 pm]

Dear contributors,

Parliament sitting is now live.

Catch the livestream of today's Parliament sitting here: 

https://www.youtube.com/live/iQ-aeLP8AXo?si=jZ-BVXcK45ATfvcm


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 12:09 pm]

Just saw a PMA, notice that it doesn't come with a licence plate and licence number.

So if PMD and PMA are registered, and only registered one are allowed on the road, then no incentive for people to buy illegal PMD and PMA.


Ginie/Komal ZENDORA J, [3/2/2026 12:14 pm]

Can only buy mobility devices or even scooter from proper shops , with all licences,  maintaining.  Same like we buy car or motorbike.  

Old devices need to go for service check like cars, register. Those caught without confiscated

Ginie/Komal ZENDORA J, [3/2/2026 12:21 pm]

Overcharging drink bottles, then to return is crazy idea. Why must increase to return. 

Now without increasing prices, u ask S'porean return empty bottles GET MONEY,  all sure do that. 

Only is convenience.  Should make those return bins at all supermarkets n hawkercentre.

And not only drink bottles, all kind of  bottles.  So many soap, oil, bottles n tupperware are there.

I collect all n normally give to those who come mthly to collect stuff. Imagine if I could collect 10ct for each of those bottles๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜ƒ

G, [3/2/2026 12:41 pm]

BCRS is a scam

Pay up to 60¢ more for a drink just to get back 10¢..

And it's not as if it's easy to get back the 10¢.

Need to spend your own resources (time + water( to clean the containers

Need to consolidate the containers

Need to find the return machine 

Need to queue up to use the machine

Need to hope and pray the machine is working..

Need to hope and pray the machine is not full and ready to accept the containers

G, [3/2/2026 12:45 pm]

And why need to spend more tax money to start some space agency under MTI??

G, [3/2/2026 12:53 pm]

BCRS stinks of useless virtue signalling..

Unnecessarily increasing cost of living for everyone so that the political leaders can thump their chests and pat each others' backs and congratulate themselves because they did "something for the environment"??

How much carbon is SG even contributing to the environment?

The whole of UK contributes just 1% of global carbon emissions.. for that comparison, SG is estimated to be just a tiny fraction of that 1%

And here, the political leaders are throwing one green washing policy after another, each one costing us higher and higher costs of living.

And for what? A tiny fraction of carbon output. And countries like china spew more and more carbon each year.

Stop killing Singaporeans and unnecessarily increasing the cost of living for miniscule impact on the environment

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 12:55 pm]

I don't agree that with the argument that since bigger polluters not doing anything, we should not do also

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 12:56 pm]

If we don't start doing our small part, how you want to convince others to do theirs.

E.g. everyone else litter, so i should litter too

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 12:57 pm]

The BCRS follows the same logic for plastic bag charges and tray return. 'I already pay taxes so why have to do this' logic is getting old

G, [3/2/2026 1:00 pm]

This narrative is fine as long as cost of living does not unnecessarily increase 

But this narrative is what is currently unnecessarily driving up costs of living

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 1:00 pm]

Space industry is something new, could lead to more innovation, products or services to sell to others.

Logically, this space not too crowded and quite diverse in a sense. Better than AI where every country is jumping onboard, but hard for sg to make something new.

Physically make sense because equator is shortest distance to outer space for satellite launches

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 1:01 pm]

But it only impacts when we choose to buy bottled drinks. Just bring your own bottle, top up at tap or water cooler. Then price increase not affect

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 1:02 pm]

Where you see is every single type of plastic container affected?

G, [3/2/2026 1:02 pm]

Paying for plasti bags is another scam narrative.

It's meant to discourage single use plastics

But the culture in SG is to reuse those plastic bags to bag their trash before throwing down the chute, as all responsible citizens do.. so already in our culture and daily practice, those bags are already not single use

Instead, what we see is people buying plastic trash bags (single use plastics) to bag their trash.


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 1:04 pm]

Source:- Google AI

The satellite business is a highly profitable, high-revenue industry that generated roughly $293 billion in global revenue in 2024, accounting for 71% of the entire global space economy.


Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 1:05 pm]

How many bags we used to take for free vs how much used for bagging rubbish? It's not 1 to 1..

Even now, my household still using off the bags we accumulated from before

G, [3/2/2026 1:05 pm]

That's too narrow a view. 

Drink price increases impact everybody, whether you choose to bring your own bottle or not

Companies have to spend more to get the same items. So they will have less money to increase your annual pay, if at all

G, [3/2/2026 1:06 pm]

SG is already in the satellite business. There's no need for extra overhead costs


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 1:06 pm]

Satellite business is one economic sector that is highly profitable.

My previous company own a satellite business unit.

Win tenders overseas installing hundreds of satellite transmitter and receiver in many islands.

Who say starting a space agency is wasting money?


Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 1:06 pm]

Not complete argument though. Then can i say that COE price rise then everyone affected because need transport food, hence should keep price low

G, [3/2/2026 1:07 pm]

Exactly. COE is a tax on everybody. Not just private car owners because everyone needs transportation, whether directly or not.

Your food, your water, all need to be transported by vehicles.. all these costs add up to the price tag you see on the shelf

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 1:08 pm]

I believe their aim for BCRS is also target those heavy buyers of such drinks. E.g. 'tax' them more

Plus, reduce consumption of unhealthy drinks

G, [3/2/2026 1:08 pm]

You don't have to say it.. Ngiam Tong Dow already said it back in the day

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 1:09 pm]

Ha, the. I can apply this logic to everywhere.. e.g. need to pay me more so i can spend more and support businesses

G, [3/2/2026 1:09 pm]

There's already a sugar tax to reduce consumption of unhealthy drinks


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 1:09 pm]

To regulate cars on the road you need transport authority, LTA.

To regulate ships, you need MPA.

To regulate airlines, you need CAAS.

To regulate space satellite, you need a space agency.

Else anyhow shoot satellites in the spaces - create havoc?


365, [3/2/2026 1:09 pm]

Bcrs has its equivalent in multiple EU countries including Germany and Netherlands. No idea when and how they started it, but it has cultivated the culture of returning bottles there. Perhaps can look into what they have done initially regarding cost, and whether it can be applied to us as well. Might have differences as they could possibly have local manufacturing capabilities.

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 1:10 pm]

What sugar tax? Singapore has no such tax

G, [3/2/2026 1:11 pm]

Ok sure

G, [3/2/2026 1:12 pm]

That assumption only works if SG is the ONLY space agency in the world and other countries need to listen to SG

G, [3/2/2026 1:14 pm]

To regulate roads, yes got LTA. Because the roads they are allowed regulate is only in SG

To regulate ships, yes, because SG has territorial waters

To regulate airspace, yes, because SG has territorial airspace

To regulate satellite space?


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 1:16 pm]

Satellite got quite a number of usage.

1. Redundant comm & internet links if submarine cables are cut.

2. Cannot rely on US GPS or Baidu - because in war time, they could stop feed us with GPS or satellite image.

3. Previously, US switch off the satellite to China when China fire missiles around Taiwan - the missiles all miss their targets.

4. Also we can sell satellite services to our neighbours to earn income - eg. Earth Observation satellite can capture typhoon, rain, cloud, haze cause by forest fires.

5. Singapore is both a global maritime hub and aviation hub, so we need our satellite to track and feed data to global shippers and airlines.

6. Satellite can also capture oil spills - so that our government can quickly send emergency team to stop the spread of oil spills.

7. Satellite can also monitor any troop concentration that is hostile to us.

8. Can also use for search and rescue operations.

9. Also all our foreign missions and embassy can use our satellite for internet and intranet connectivity.

10. Confidential data won't be leaked as it becomes our private network.

11. Else foreign missions got to use foreign telecom infrastructure - data can be pilfer, man-in-the-middle attack, and rely solely on encryption to protect transmitted data.

12. Encryption can be broken using quantum computing.


G, [3/2/2026 1:17 pm]

Yes, explains why satellites are important but doesn't explain why need a regulatory body paid for by taxpayers


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 1:18 pm]

So allow all tom, dick and Harry to shoot their satellite and collide with one another?


Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 1:18 pm]

I believe that sg space agency not only cater for satellite, but other aspects of space industry


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 1:19 pm]

Also satellite are national security assets - that need to be coordinated and govern.

Not 5 cents 10 cents thing.


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 1:19 pm]

Yes.

More than satellite - it also cover security.


Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 1:19 pm]

Could be anything related to space, nuclear reactor, oil for rockets, spacesuits etc

G, [3/2/2026 1:19 pm]

๐Ÿ˜‚ into SG's ultra tiny space in outer space? (Assuming we even have territorial space in outer space)

SG doesn't even have facilities to launch satellites

Why should country X launching their satellite from country Y need to listen to what SG space agency had to say?


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 1:20 pm]

That's why, it only mention commercial usage - but the rest in mum...


Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 1:20 pm]

We could build one in the future?

Already considering to have nuclear reactor which was impossible decades ago


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 1:21 pm]

Haiyah - you leave national security to the government lah..

And forget about 5 cents and 10 cents stuff.


G, [3/2/2026 1:22 pm]

Security then under mindef lor. Why under MTI?

365, [3/2/2026 1:22 pm]

E-bike and pmd/pma really need stricter enforcement. Invest more effort and manpower upfront, reduce the incentives to break the laws, and then can gradually relax the manpower once it's in a more stable state.

For now, actively look for those unregistered e-bikes and pma/pmd. Any unregistered ones impound + fine. Repeat offenders increase fines + potentially jail time.

Even for registered ones, can stop to check for speed limiters. Same punishment as above if you don't have speed limiter or have a non-compliant one, but maybe the fine amount can be lesser or just have warning for 1st time. Required to report to an LTA certified workshop to check if the limiter is installed within X amount of days, or can install the limiter directly with said certified workshops.

Actively look for workshops performing illegal modifications, either incentivise those caught with a lesser punishment to spill the beans, or go undercover and ask for illegal modifications from suspected workshops. 

Any workshop providing illegal modification, impound their workshop and strip them of their business license.

G, [3/2/2026 1:22 pm]

Then have a nuclear agency, why need space agency?


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 1:22 pm]

Very sad.

You can't read in between the lines.

Very obvious you are not suitable to be involved in security stuff.


Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 1:32 pm]

I'm curious on a scenario.

If fire break out next door due to unlicensed pma, can i claim damages from the owner of the pma?

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 1:34 pm]

I recall read news on fire breakout, then claim life of the uncle's financee, the young chap just apologied and claim it was a young rash mistake


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 1:43 pm]

In future, when everything is sensors and network:-

1. F35 sensor, digital, network 

2. Drone swarm - GPS, camera, sensor guided

3. Armour vehicles - network, sensor, digital 

4. Combat manned system - sensors, network 

5. Robots - sensors, network

6. Marine, drones and combat ships - sensor and network.

Owning and controlling our own satellites will be vital to network up all the assets - to give us the vital edge to win war.

No space agency to co-ordinate - must be crazy.


Adam, [3/2/2026 1:45 pm]

So you saying we need to weaponise space?


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 1:46 pm]

Network, connectivity, communication not weaponized.


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 1:52 pm]

"Can GDP grow while jobs disappear?

Economists weigh in on what Singapore's AI push must get right.

Good jobs in an AI-rich economy will come not from asking how much labour can be removed, but from identifying which tasks still benefit from human judgment, says one economist."

 https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/economic-strategy-review-gdp-growth-jobs-ai-5901231#:~:text=Can%20GDP%20grow,says%20one%20economist.


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 1:53 pm]

This is the topic that is worth discussing.

Agentic AI - that can independently set goals, plan, and execute multi-step tasks to achieve objectives with minimal human oversight.

This will be a threat to human jobs.


REACH Singapore, [3/2/2026 2:00 pm]

๐Ÿ“ข Topic ๐Ÿ“ข


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 2:00 pm]

Because Agentic AI is more autonomous than Generative AI LLM.

Humans need to find our niches in which Agentic AI cannot do.


Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 2:05 pm]

Blue collar jobs then?

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 2:05 pm]

Plumbers, electrician, car repair


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 2:06 pm]

Actually quite sad.

Need to brainstorm how to protect the white collar jobs.


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 2:07 pm]

Prof Loh said that AI and automation can now perform tasks at levels comparable to humans, which is a negating factor for job growth.


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 2:09 pm]

HUMAN-AI COLLABORATION

Despite its impact on job creation, economists agreed that AI cannot fully replace humans.

Prof Powdthavee noted that while AI excels at some tasks, it still makes mistakes and can be biased in ways that are not always obvious.

“The more sensible use of AI is not to replace people, but to work with them. The biggest gains come from human-AI augmentation,” he said.


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 2:11 pm]

Good jobs in an AI-rich economy will come not from asking how much labour can be removed from a process, but from asking which tasks still benefit from human judgment, accountability and interaction, he said.


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 2:12 pm]

Roles should then be designed around those tasks, he added.

“That requires deliberate choices. It also requires resisting the short-term temptation to use AI purely as a cost-cutting tool.”


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 2:14 pm]

So now the issue is, what are those tasks.

Need to brainstorm on this.

So that IHLs, training institute, business can train white collar workers in these tasks - and ensure people are gainfully employed.


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 2:26 pm]

[01/02, 8:26 am] Close friend comments: Zuckerberg Says AI Is Letting One Employee Do the Work of Entire Teams - Business Insider

https://share.google/cJvT3pE3i5Yg4NiN9

[01/02, 8:27 am] Close friend comments: It's this type of belief.


[01/02, 2:06 pm] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: Look like if all CEOs go by this belief, then large unemployment will follow.

I don't know what government of the day can do to ensure everyone got a job.

Coming to the crunch, even if companies are highly productive, large consumer base with income to buy their goods also vanished.

CEOs will stuck with high volume of goods but not enough buyers.

It will backfire on them.

Worst the whole society without jobs and income could turn riot and burn down the CEO business.

In the end, all lose.


[01/02, 2:25 pm] Close friend comments: No creativity anymore. It'll just harness old and existing wisdom. AI not real intelligence


[01/02, 2:27 pm] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: Hmm...

That's why government, business and our workers must try to find a way to do work that cannot be done by AI.

Critical thinking, vision, creativity, communication, collaboration, creative problem solving, counselling, mentoring, consultants etc.

Need to find our niches when letting AI settle down.


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 2:31 pm]

[01/02, 8:12 pm] Close friend comments: Early 2000, .com burst because it didn't deliver the $ as hyped. AI will also go thru that cycle.

[01/02, 8:13 pm] Close friend comments: There are real possibilities ,yet unrealistic ones


[01/02, 8:13 pm] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: I think AI increasingly likely to become computer and internet - that is pervasively adopted by all industrial sectors.

[01/02, 8:14 pm] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: That's why this AI disruptor trigger alot of anxiety among our workers and global workforce.


[01/02, 8:14 pm] Close friend comments: It will become pervasive but not way CEOs are currently slashing workforce

[01/02, 8:17 pm] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: Hmm...

I think all these CEOs - especially US ones put Greed as their main motivation - and willing to overlook social consequences that will backfire on them.

They make themselves rich first and don't care less - let government to solve the social problems.

Thus government need to be wise to arrest such spiral downward early before a full blown unrest sets in.


[01/02, 8:18 pm] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: Though I agree that AI investment has gone into a crazy proposition - in which revenue are unlikely to recover the investment and cost sunk in.


[01/02, 8:21 pm] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: Either scenario:-

1. Pervasively adopted like internet 

2. Unable to recover AI investment 

- will be bad for the world as a whole - as the economic consequences and social consequences will be humongous if there are no soft landings in sight.


G, [3/2/2026 2:38 pm]

Aren't these already being taken care of by mindef?

Or are you saying mindef don't know what they are doing?

G, [3/2/2026 2:41 pm]

Then the political office holders compensation framework needs to be tweaked. Much mess emphasis on GDP, more emphasis on jobs and job quality

G, [3/2/2026 2:43 pm]

You should visit some army/air force / SAF / Mindef in the heartlands road shows etc

Lagi now got DIS, the new fourth service...

Mindef already taking care of such things


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 2:59 pm]

U.S., EU, and China all possess major, distinct space agencies: NASA (USA), ESA (Europe), and CNSA (China). These organizations drive global exploration, with 2026 seeing continued rivalry and cooperation, including joint European-Chinese missions (SMILE) and, in the case of ESA, collaboration with the US on returning Mars samples. 

USA (NASA): The National Aeronautics and Space Administration is the primary U.S. civil space agency.

EU (ESA): The European Space Agency is an intergovernmental organization with over 20 member states, focusing on scientific and, with EUSPA, operational/industrial, space goals.

China (CNSA): The China National Space Administration handles civil space programs and international cooperation. 


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 3:01 pm]

It is precisely more commercial satellites are being shoot into spaces and compete with military satellite that you need a space agency to co-ordinate.

All developed countries that have satellite set up space agency.

Mindef is military, not a space agency.


G, [3/2/2026 3:02 pm]

How many satellites are there currently in space? What does your AI say?


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 3:03 pm]

Don't know.

Ask the space agency.


G, [3/2/2026 3:04 pm]

Ask your AI?


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 3:04 pm]

You don't know how to use AI?


G, [3/2/2026 3:05 pm]

I don't know if you will agree / accept what AI I use. So let's use your AI

Nicholas, [3/2/2026 3:08 pm]

AI will increase productivity of workers, means more valuable to bosses, means more business growth with same number of workers. Hopefully the bosses can view it this way.

G, [3/2/2026 3:08 pm]

There are approximately 15,000 satellites in space now. And over 28,000 catalogued space debris. 

Out of this, only 15 satellites are from Singapore

So are you saying with 15 out of 15,000 + 28,000 things in orbit now, we need to spend even more taxpayer money, to start a new stat board / govt agency with all the expensive CEO etc overheads to kacau kacau the US, EU, China etc to regulate their space debris also?

G, [3/2/2026 3:09 pm]

And 60% of the 15,000 satellites now belong to Elon Musk's starlink.. Spend tax payers money to regulate him ah?


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 3:13 pm]

If not you tell LTA to regulate lor.

If not tell Mindef to regulate lor instead of doing defence. Run commercial business lor.


G, [3/2/2026 3:23 pm]

Why is there even a need for SG to regulate?


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 3:27 pm]

Currently, 70 space companies and 2,000 professionals operate in the sector here, engaging in a range of activities from designing and making space parts to providing satellite-based services.

Singapore began its foray into space technology more than 50 years ago.

It established its first ground station in 1971, and launched its first communications satellite in 1998 and its first locally built satellite in 2011.

The Government, industry and academia have launched more than 30 satellites over the past 20 years.


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 3:30 pm]

Singapore will form a National Space Agency on April 1 to grow its space economy capabilities, with Ngiam Le Na as chief executive.

NSAS will use satellite imagery and geospatial data for needs like urban planning and environmental monitoring, developing space situational understanding.

The Government has invested over $200 million in space R&D and aims to expand international partnerships and legislation for space safety.


G, [3/2/2026 3:30 pm]

Is that your AI's comments?

Still does not answer the question of why is there even a need for SG to regulate. 

They were doing fine without a regulatory body for 50 years.

G, [3/2/2026 3:30 pm]

This is already being carried out BEFORE NSAS. Why need NSAS?


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 3:30 pm]

For information only.

Not responding to you.

You can go ask Minister directly.

He will answer you.


G, [3/2/2026 3:31 pm]

Aren't you the de facto govt rep here ๐Ÿ˜‰?


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 3:32 pm]

Huh?  Since when I am the government rep?


G, [3/2/2026 3:33 pm]

๐Ÿ˜‚


Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 3:39 pm]

You can try asking government what's the threshold for creating a new ministry.

There's also a balance between general addon to existing agency or want to branch out to specialise in another sector.


G, [3/2/2026 3:39 pm]

The AI I use tell me typical stat board CEO salary in SG is around $22,700 / month or $272,400 / year. And that's just the CEO, haven't count all the deputy CEOs, directors, assistant director etc etc etc.. 

Still need to rent office space for this lot,

equip them with IT stuff like laptops, tablets, 

need to have IT dept to support that 

need HR to make sure this lot get paid correctly on time

need to pay utilities like electricity and water and internet (starlink ๐Ÿ˜?)

That's a lot of recurring overheads. 

To regulate space? To regulate satellites? 

Of which SG only has 15 right now in orbit, out of 15,000 satellites + 28,000 space debris

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 3:40 pm]

Why keep focusing on the satellites, as we mentioned there are more aspects to space industry...

G, [3/2/2026 3:41 pm]

The de facto govt rep was explaining the need for space agency using the need to regulate satellites ma

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 3:41 pm]

Then it's to create standards and regulations for future usage

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 3:42 pm]

Then can i quote someone with another view as de facto opposition rep?

G, [3/2/2026 3:43 pm]

No need to reinvent the wheel. When existing standards are good and available and already sent literally tens of thousand of satellites into space, just use existing standards

Like the oil industry.. SG manly use API / ISO standards

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 3:43 pm]

Look and think widely for long term

G, [3/2/2026 3:44 pm]

Yes, the long term concern is primarily cost of living, which impacts TFR

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 3:44 pm]

Did you know that SG does create new standards for air space ,shipping, even regional power lines.

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 3:45 pm]

Not all existing 'global' standard can be applied wholesale. Even cyber security or normal tech development workflows got different standards

G, [3/2/2026 3:45 pm]

Yes, that's when we know for sure that existing standards are not good enough.. Then yes, I support.

But when we only launched (according to the govt rep, 30 satellites in 20 years), who are we to say our standards are better than existing ones and we need to further develop our standards?

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 3:46 pm]

Then on flip side, who are we to say that our new standards won6be better than existing ones?

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 3:47 pm]

Maybe is global would follow our standards in future?

G, [3/2/2026 3:47 pm]

Even so if we really need to develop our own SG standards, do we need a whole new stat board / agency for it? With all that overhead costs?

Why not just a new dept in existing set ups? Like active mobility unit in LTA?

G, [3/2/2026 3:48 pm]

That's a really arrogant comment, but a good kind of arrogance that strives for greatness

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 3:48 pm]

Likely not enough resources, or specialized skillset in existing agency. Hence need new one

G, [3/2/2026 3:48 pm]

This kind I can say, we are top notch for airspace control. 

SG airspace so tight. Yet so much air traffic. Still need to balance with military air craft

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 3:48 pm]

How many ppl got study space engineering or the legal issues for space

Adam, [3/2/2026 3:49 pm]

https://xkcd.com/927/

G, [3/2/2026 3:49 pm]

Oxymoron leh, not enough resource, yet can splash the cash on a new stat board / agency

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 3:50 pm]

'resources' i meant in generic terms of space, people etc. not specifically only money

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 3:51 pm]

If want to purely save cost, then dissolve parliament. Why need so much minister and opposition, pay one emperor can already

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 3:52 pm]

Our population size so small compared to russia and china, no need government la

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 3:52 pm]

Am speaking rhetorical if no one understood


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 3:55 pm]

๐Ÿ‘


G, [3/2/2026 3:56 pm]

Exactly. Why need more and more and more MPs with each election?

G, [3/2/2026 3:58 pm]

Still no compelling reason to start a new stat board / agency with expensive recurring overheads

G, [3/2/2026 3:59 pm]

We have been in an inflationary period for so many years. People tightening belts to get by everyday. 

SPEND WITHIN YOUR MEANS is the common mantra, some of which echoed by some here, some of which echoed at govt level..

Then we see this govt spending like no problem leh, on pet projects that don't improve the lives of everyday folk.. 

Cannot fund the spending? No problem, just increase tax

REACH Singapore, [3/2/2026 4:00 pm]

๐Ÿ“ข Topic ๐Ÿ“ข

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 4:01 pm]

Then let's cut all the benefits given out. Recall all cdc vouchers etc. cut cost then.

Heck, let's kick out all the senior citizens, don't have to give them cpf

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 4:03 pm]

Give up ourselves to china or malaysia, don't need create government. Just follow their rule of law and currency, make ringgit 1 to 1.


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 4:04 pm]

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSagENvkr/

Singapore is an exceptional Country - very well govern.


Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 4:04 pm]

No need go university, primary school can liao. Still school and education ma..


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 4:05 pm]

This American economist and analyst has high praise for Singapore governance - arguably the best in the World.

Same comments by many China's economists and analysts.

It is precisely what our government vision, foresight and well planning that put all of us ahead and in a good stead.

Not looking at short term 5 cents 10 cents stuff.

Majority of our population trust what the government is doing will be good for us now and in future.

And many countries are learning from us.


Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 4:21 pm]

Moderator should have posted the space agency link:

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/national-space-agency-singapore-technology-legislation-5899941


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 4:21 pm]

Government needs to work closely with business boss and union workers - to ensure that with the proliferation of AI corresponding high value jobs are created hand in hand.

I think Singapore being a small country is able to do so - something that we do for Progressive Work Model - industry by industry.

This time is for AI.

By doing so, we will not have a situation like US, whereby CEOs mass fire workers, and then discover the AI hallucinate and run wild - got to desperately recruit back to patch up the AI work.

I think all the more important - revisiting ITM (Industry Transformation Map) - industry by industry - this time focusing on AI as disruptor vis-a-vis transformed jobs become very critical.


Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 4:23 pm]

Finally managed to read the actual article. 

The space agency is not a brand new team, already exist under economic development board (why of all places, dunno). Now just consolidate and rebrand itself on its own agency


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 4:24 pm]

Space agency got to accommodate commercial + military.

That's why is put under economic.

If put under military - no foreigners want to work with us.


Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 4:24 pm]

Likely separate out because the industry has growth big enough to justify the additonal budget needed

REACH Singapore, [3/2/2026 4:25 pm]

In case you missed it, here are some updates from the parliamentary proceedings so far:

- S’pore to fully switch to new ERP system from Jan 2027: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/spore-to-fully-switch-to-new-erp-system-on-jan-1-2027-new-bill-to-make-on-board-unit-compulsory?ref=top-stories

- On use of partial NRIC numbers: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/public-sector-to-use-full-nric-numbers-or-nothing-partial-nric-numbers-not-reliable-for?ref=top-stories

- On the Coastal Protection Bill: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/rising-sea-levels-coastal-protection-bill-parliament-5900336?cid=internal_sharetool_iphone_03022026_cna

- On the Beverage Container Return Scheme: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/beverage-container-return-scheme-costs-consumers-10-cents-5902836?cid=internal_sharetool_iphone_03022026_cna

- On Central Kitchen Model for schools:

www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/school-canteen-central-kitchen-model-moe-parliament-5903076?cid=internal_sharetool_iphone_03022026_cna

G, [3/2/2026 4:28 pm]

Exactly. If don't tax people more, than there will be lower cost of living then don't even need CDC

But then, what can the govt do to show that they care? By giving out CDC vouchers, can boast and say, "we care for you, here's some vouchers"

But if they work very hard to keep costs of living low, how to boast during election time?

G, [3/2/2026 4:29 pm]

You can say that about 1G PAP, difficult to say the same for the current lot


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 4:29 pm]

Singapore current GDP per capita PPP is the highest in the world.


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 4:30 pm]

Source :- Google AI

Singapore is ranked as having one of the highest GDP per capita (PPP) in the world, with 2025 estimates placing it at the top globally at approximately US$156,000–US$156,760. This high ranking reflects strong economic productivity, a strategic role as a financial hub, and high living standards, often surpassing nations like Luxembourg, Qatar, and Macau. 


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 4:31 pm]

This are hardcore facts.

Not I think you think.


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 4:33 pm]

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSamhTjnU/

Singapore global rankings in the world 2025 (not 1965).


G, [3/2/2026 4:37 pm]

A rebrand that adds on unnecessary recurring expensive overheads.. 

This trend of rebranding using merely consolidation (e.g. recently the CDA) without offering new game changing capabilities is a waste of taxpayer money by introducing expensive recurring overheads

Now a good example of new game changing capability is this: SAF's DIS. They offer new capabilities that SG did not yet possess. This kind we need to support and should support.

Regrouping existing capabilities / functions, then putting a new head honcho with his supporting crew there.. nothing new leh, just add on expensive recurring overheads. Straining the budget. Not spending within the means

Jun Ming, [3/2/2026 4:39 pm]

I don't object on returning bottles but with condition.

1.) it should not be amplify and transfer cost to consumers. Either gov or manufacturer should bear the cost so more innovative idea from their side will come out. 

2.) convenient. 

3.) package policy such as allowing people to bring their bottle to collect coke and other drinks and to reuse the bottle

Jun Ming, [3/2/2026 4:39 pm]

If these 3 conditions cannot be met it should not be putting the policy in the first place

Jun Ming, [3/2/2026 4:40 pm]

If not it will just burden the cost of living

G, [3/2/2026 4:41 pm]

"“Building on this foundation, the agency will engage our space ecosystem on plans for national space legislation,” he said."

Why is there a need for national space legislation???

Want to make into law, means need to come up with new capabilities to enforce the law, means need to spend more taxpayer money๐Ÿ˜’

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/national-space-agency-singapore-technology-legislation-5899941

Jun Ming, [3/2/2026 4:42 pm]

Logic of using plastic bag . We got the option to bring our own plastic bag. But is there option to bring our own bottle?

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 4:47 pm]

Don't understand, isn't your comparison the same reasoning to be applied to the new agency too?

G, [3/2/2026 4:48 pm]

I don't understand your don't understand

G, [3/2/2026 4:50 pm]

DIS is not a mere consolidation. It's introduction of new capabilities that the army navy rsaf didn't possess

CDA, NSAS aren't offering any new capabilities. They are just regrouped existing capabilities, but now add on expensive recurring overheads where previously there was none

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 4:51 pm]

Hmm, even if charge manufacturers high cost for using bottle, consumers would still continue to buy and anyhow throw away the bottles without recycling.

Forcing it via government would allow collection points to be built islandwide and consolidate across different drink brands

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 4:52 pm]

I would argue that DIS could have already existed beforehand. We had CSA and mindef IT department to handle such cyber security things

Jun Ming, [3/2/2026 4:54 pm]

I mean the 10cent return is ok but not to amplify the cost to consumers. So after the rule is enforce I should only see a maximum price increase of 10cent not any other value increase

G, [3/2/2026 4:54 pm]

CSA and mindef IT dept are still existing. Means DIS is offering way more than what CSA and mindef IT can

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 4:54 pm]

Most times is because these teams' workload get too much or need cross-department work that better to consolidate and come on it's own.

There can be views for both consolidate and spiltting up

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 4:55 pm]

Then would you say should close these past agencies down? Since DIS already doing their job?

G, [3/2/2026 4:55 pm]

Is DIS doing CSA's job?

Jun Ming, [3/2/2026 4:56 pm]

Companies will eventually even out their profit in the packaging as repackaging should be just a one time investment

Jun Ming, [3/2/2026 4:57 pm]

That's why I find it ridiculous to increase to 0.60 as I can buy a Dasani water with that price currently

G, [3/2/2026 4:58 pm]

Same experience as people preaching "gst increase from 8% to 9% only what". 

But ignore that kopi o kosong price went up from $1 to $1.20.. a 20% increase

G, [3/2/2026 4:59 pm]

Then the typical response to that would be "then you drink coffee at home lor! Or you drink less coffee la!"

Jun Ming, [3/2/2026 5:00 pm]

Anyway I don't drink a lot of bottle drink unless I forget to bring water bottle

Jun Ming, [3/2/2026 5:01 pm]

To add on maybe can put water cooler in front of supermarket

Jun Ming, [3/2/2026 5:01 pm]

So people can reduce the bottle usage

Jun Ming, [3/2/2026 5:02 pm]

Remember reduce reuse recycle. Recycle should always to be the last step

G, [3/2/2026 5:03 pm]

I mean.. This is the typical "tighten your belt" response when people give negative feedback on price increases, and the reason for these prices increases

But then we see this govt, instead of tightening their belts and spending within their means, they are spending frivolously on expensive recurring overheads..

And increase tax on us to fund such frivolous spending, driving up cost of living for all of us

Jun Ming, [3/2/2026 5:04 pm]

For central kitchen maybe we can make it onsite kitchen in school where big vendor cook in school and sell

Jun Ming, [3/2/2026 5:06 pm]

So they will cook for breakfast and lunch for students to buy in their school

Jun Ming, [3/2/2026 5:07 pm]

Or buffet style central kitchen instead of pack food

Jun Ming, [3/2/2026 5:08 pm]

In camps right it's not really central kitchen but onsite kitchen for our army guys

Jun Ming, [3/2/2026 5:11 pm]

Maybe like ah meng restaurant type where one stall sell all the food

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 5:12 pm]

Kind of true. But have spilt into 2-halal and non-halal section?

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 5:13 pm]

Oh, like those American school canteen type.. hmm, good idea

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 5:14 pm]

But would it be lack of choice?

I dunno how the current school central kitchen works. Do students get a choice of menu?

Jun Ming, [3/2/2026 5:18 pm]

I think they can make it like cai fan and zi char for the whole school

Jun Ming, [3/2/2026 5:20 pm]

If primary and secondary school are close together they can merge canteen

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 5:22 pm]

Distance would be too far for children regardless. Plus building walkway shelters would be tedious

Jun Ming, [3/2/2026 5:23 pm]

Hmm maybe one onsite kitchen serve 2 schools

Jun Ming, [3/2/2026 5:24 pm]

Like cai fan the chef can split into 2 sets

Jun Ming, [3/2/2026 5:33 pm]

For space agency can they come up a better name sound like nasa

Jun Ming, [3/2/2026 5:36 pm]

Rename to Singapore space agency (SSA) also not that bad

Jun Ming, [3/2/2026 5:40 pm]

Can gov when introduce new things try to avoid common acro name or look like name. Like simi is saf. Singapore armed forces or Singapore aviation fuel


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 5:48 pm]

SSA got many similar acronyms.

Singapore Shipping Association.

Singapore Standard on Auditing.

SSA Academy

SSA culinary institute.


Jun Ming, [3/2/2026 5:49 pm]

Hmm but just don't make it look like nasa lah

Jun Ming, [3/2/2026 5:50 pm]

Singapore space research agency (ssra)


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 5:51 pm]

But these satellite not for research.


Jun Ming, [3/2/2026 5:54 pm]

It can be use in research what

Jun Ming, [3/2/2026 5:55 pm]

NSAS will use satellite imagery and geospatial data for needs like urban planning and environmental monitoring, developing space situational understanding.


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 5:55 pm]

More than that.


Jun Ming, [3/2/2026 5:55 pm]

These data are collected for research and development

Jun Ming, [3/2/2026 5:58 pm]

So it's just collect data and send data to other agency and institute. Where other agency and institute will do research and policy crafting

Jun Ming, [3/2/2026 5:59 pm]

I guess it's just a data collection point

REACH Singapore, [3/2/2026 6:00 pm]

๐Ÿ“ข Topic ๐Ÿ“ข

์—ฌ์ž์นœ๊ตฌ, ์ฒซ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ ๐Ÿ†, [3/2/2026 6:01 pm]

Regarding the bottle machine: main thing is can they clear fast enough or not, how many machines across the island can they work fast enough to clear them all or not. Because of yall know the FairPrice trial the last round it was perhaps, too well received.

์—ฌ์ž์นœ๊ตฌ, ์ฒซ์‚ฌ๋ž‘ ๐Ÿ†, [3/2/2026 6:02 pm]

People queue and queue with mountains of bottles to get the vouchers. I'm worried the same thing will happen this time also.

G, [3/2/2026 6:03 pm]

For satellite imagery, how is that a game changer vs existing GIS systems that URA already use for urban planning for decades? GIS already incorporates satellite data

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 6:04 pm]

And the collection and clearing of the recycle machines.

see the clothes recycle bins, super quick to be full when close to spring cleaning

Jun Ming, [3/2/2026 6:14 pm]

NSAS will develop national legislation and regulations for the space sector. It aims to be pro-innovation and pro-business, while meeting high standards for space safety and sustainability, Dr Tan said.

He said the new agency will expand on the existing functions of the Economic Development Board’s Office for Space Technology & Industry (OSTIn), to build “world-class space R&D capabilities, develop a thriving space industry and advance international partnerships”.

Jun Ming, [3/2/2026 6:15 pm]

Money mining in space sector

G, [3/2/2026 6:17 pm]

Yes, but now come these can't be achieved in the current office set up?

Jun Ming, [3/2/2026 6:19 pm]

Don't think so .how to build world class space r&d capabilities without this new agency

G, [3/2/2026 6:20 pm]

The main difference in offering I can see from the CNA article is NSAS want to introduce legislation.. and typically, offices within stat boards don't do that

So that begs the question: why need to introduce legislation?

G, [3/2/2026 6:21 pm]

Then start some GLC lor. Or subsumed the R&D under A star

G, [3/2/2026 6:22 pm]

Most of the space R&D are being done at our universities already anyway

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 6:23 pm]

You're not reading the full text.

The stated aim is to r&d, sell, then business it out. Plus share data with other agencies.

None of the other organizations can do all of this within their team.

Jun Ming, [3/2/2026 6:24 pm]

1.) legislation (idk about it)

2.) innovation and business 

( My understanding is to attract Elon mask to Singapore)

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 6:24 pm]

Mindef, do defense and confidental data. EDB do business and legal, not technically enough. University, pure r&d, not good selling and they are education purpose

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 6:26 pm]

You want cut cost but have red tape and inefficiency in process, sure, all go prime minister office.

Traffic fine, travel visa, go apply there. Wait for your turn a few years down the road for approval

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 6:27 pm]

I already find our polyclinic and legal courts too slow and cumbersome already..

Jun Ming, [3/2/2026 6:28 pm]

So actually this is a more cost saving deal as if you want to do everything in different agency you need multiple building office and facility. And sending data and people moving around cost time and money

Jun Ming, [3/2/2026 6:28 pm]

Now it's just one building

G, [3/2/2026 6:32 pm]

Still doesn't answer the question of how come need an agency set up and the current office set up does not suffice

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 6:35 pm]

The current office is EDB.. you know what the agency does?

Vs what they want this new agency to do?

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 6:36 pm]

It's like asking Traffic Police to go sell cars, since they deal with vehicles all the time anyway

G, [3/2/2026 6:36 pm]

This is what the current office is already doing. Not much different from what the minister say NSAS wants to do

https://www.space.gov.sg/about-us/visionandmission/

Nicholas, [3/2/2026 6:38 pm]

On the central kitchen model for schools, the vendors need to take effort to do it well. It should be better and safer, not worse and riskier. The price also seems higher than what secondary students usually pay for recess food. If it's not done well in the few schools piloting it, please don't roll it out to more schools. The current food vendors at each store are serving nutritious food with a smile and at better prices.

G, [3/2/2026 6:40 pm]

Want to innovate and business it out, then work closer with EnterpriseSG since that's their mandate

Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 6:41 pm]

I think you might be confusing the 'agency' in the name as a new ministry.. it's not.

From what i see from that website you found,

The Government will set up the National Space Agency of Singapore (NSAS) from 1 April 2026. NSAS will be established under the aegis of the Ministry of Trade and Industry (MTI)

G, [3/2/2026 6:41 pm]

Or even better.. why not just transfer the office from EDB to EnterpriseSG since both under MTI anyway


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 6:42 pm]

Before the National Computer Board (NCB) was established in 1981, Singapore’s computerisation efforts were decentralized and largely driven by individual government ministries, with a notable lack of central coordination. 

Key aspects of this pre-NCB period (primarily the 1960s and 1970s) included:

Ministry of Finance (MOF): The first government computer was installed at the Ministry of Finance, which served as a central hub for early computational needs.

Central Provident Fund Board (CPFB): In 1963, the CPFB installed the first mainframe computer to automate manual ledger accounting.

Fragmented Approach: Government ministries operated independently, using separate computer systems, often leading to a "huge backlog" of work and fragmented data, as noted by Dr. Tony Tan, who later chaired the Committee on National Computerisation (CNC) to address this.

Individual Statutory Boards: Organizations like the Nanyang University's computer center were early adopters, but there was no overarching national strategy until the 1980s. 

Formation of the NCB

Following a 1980 study, the Committee on National Computerisation (CNC) was formed to address these deficiencies. This led to the creation of the National Computer Board (NCB) on September 1, 1981, to spearhead the computerisation of the Civil Service, develop IT manpower, and promote the computer services industry. 


Khai Mun L., [3/2/2026 6:42 pm]

It's basically just a re-organization.. it might not lead to more costs


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 6:42 pm]

Similar to space agency.

Satellite is found everywhere.


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 6:43 pm]

In 2024, Singapore's digital economy (DE) reached S$128.1 billion, contributing 18.6% to the nation's GDP, up from 18.0% in 2023.


G, [3/2/2026 6:44 pm]

It does. An office doesn't have its own finance, HR, IT dept etc. 

Agencies have. Agencies have a lot more governance rules to follow compared to offices within stat boards. Agencies are comparable to stat boards

Agencies also need to submit their annual budgets


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 6:44 pm]

The formation of NCB - iDA - Govtech lead to $128.1 billion economy.


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 6:45 pm]

The projected space technology business will have similar trajectory.


REACH Singapore, [3/2/2026 6:46 pm]

Dear Contributors,

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LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [3/2/2026 6:46 pm]

Singapore government has very far vision.

Not 10 cents 5 cents cheap skate stuff.


G, [3/2/2026 6:51 pm]

Yes, but still doesn't explain why need to have a full fledged agency compared to current office set up

REACH Singapore, [3/2/2026 7:00 pm]

Dear Contributors

We will be closing the chat for today.

Thank you very much for being part of our Telegram chat and participating actively.

Goodnight!

Megan ๐Ÿ˜Š


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Friday, January 30, 2026

REACH (Telegram) 117 -   What are your views on the recommendations from the Economic Strategy Review? What more can be done to ensure that the Singapore economy remains competitive?

(SK)

30 Jan 2026 (10am - 7pm)


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REACH Singapore, [30/1/2026 3:02 pm]

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REACH Singapore, [30/1/2026 3:16 pm]

๐Ÿ“ข Topic ๐Ÿ“ข

On Friday (30 Jan), the Economic Strategy Review (ESR) provided seven key recommendations for Singapore's economy and the labour market. 

The recommendations are developed after consulting with businesses and workers over 60 engagements, events, and company visits.

๐Ÿ’ฌ What are your views on the recommendations from the Economic Strategy Review? What more can be done to ensure that the Singapore economy remains competitive?

๐Ÿ“Œ Background of ESR

The ESR was unveiled by Deputy Prime Minister Gan Kim Yong in August 2025 to chart a forward-looking blueprint to secure quality opportunities for Singapore’s businesses and workers. The ESR reports to the Singapore Economic Resilience Taskforce (SERT), which was set up in April 2025 to help businesses and workers navigate immediate uncertainties arising from the US tariffs. 

The ESR consists of five different committees, each focusing on different aspect of Singapore's economy.

These recommendations are part of a mid-term update by the ESR, and the full report with final recommendations will be published in mid-2026

One of the key recommendations was that Singapore should establish itself as a global artificial intelligence leader and push for AI adoption across its economy. The review also emphasised that Singapore should also evolve its skills and training systems to make lifelong learning a practical reality for workers.

๐Ÿ“Œ Recommendations on the economy

Four recommendations focus on driving Singapore's economic growth. The ESR noted that AI will revolutionise economies and industries, saying Singapore must stay ahead to harness its transformative power and put the country on a different growth trajectory.

“We should do more to position Singapore as a location of choice where companies and top talent come together to develop, test, deploy and scale innovative and impactful AI solutions,” the ESR committees said in a media factsheet.

Beyond AI, Singapore should also strengthen its position in manufacturing sectors where it already has a foothold, such as semiconductors, healthcare and specialty chemicals.

National research and development resources should be deployed to secure global leadership in high-value sectors, capitalising on Singapore's trusted reputation, the ESR committees said.

๐Ÿ“Œ Recommendation on the labour market

The ESR also added that workers should be more proactive in acquiring skills, career planning and entrepreneurial in seizing new opportunities.

“We should evolve our skills and training models, to enable training to be agile and responsive to worker and industry needs, and for Singaporeans to upskill and reskill throughout their careers,” the ESR committees said.

This will require more flexible pathways blending training and work, a national AI workforce strategy, a more nimble career and skills system, and a review of how government support is organised.

The ESR committees also recommended strengthening career transition support, including working with employers on earlier retrenchment notices and providing tailored placement and training.

The ESR committees also mentioned that businesses needed to innovate and reposition themselves, with Singapore enabling them to proactively navigate transitions and pivot to viable opportunities.

“This could entail providing practical support for businesses to better understand their business health and make transition plans, including rationalising or offshoring parts of their operations to seize new opportunities,” the ESR committees said.

๐Ÿ“Œ Full list of recommendations

The full list of seven recommendations are:

- Transform Singapore’s advanced manufacturing industry to establish global leadership in key sectors.

- Pursue emerging opportunities in quantum, decarbonisation and space technology to push the growth frontier of the economy.

- Establish Singapore as an AI leader where companies and top talent can develop solutions.

- Strengthen connectivity with global markets and aggressively support local firms to internationalise.

REACH Singapore, [30/1/2026 3:16 pm]

- Uplift and transform jobs to broaden Singapore’s range of good jobs.

- Evolve skills and training models to make lifelong learning a practical reality.

- Provide practical support for businesses to navigate transitions. 

๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿป   https://cna.asia/45HL3ui

๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿป https://cna.asia/4t6O1m7 

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๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿป  https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/singapore-launches-new-economic-strategy-review-to-stay-ahead-of-global-shifts

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REACH Singapore, [30/1/2026 3:17 pm]

[ Poll : 1) I am confident that the recommendations and measures will continue to grow Singapore's economy. (Please share your reasons in the chat!) ]

- Strongly Agree

- Agree

- Neutral

- Disagree

- Strongly Disagree

REACH Singapore, [30/1/2026 3:17 pm]

[ Poll : 2) I am confident that the recommendations and measures will support workers and create good jobs. (Please share your reasons in the chat!) ]

- Strongly Agree

- Agree

- Neutral

- Disagree

- Strongly Disagree

365, [30/1/2026 3:27 pm]

Being a global leader in key sectors is a double edged sword. On one hand, we have additional bargaining power to get more favourable trades, on the other hand, it can invite geopolitical trouble. Computer chips is quite an example of this.

365, [30/1/2026 3:31 pm]

I would also suggest the government to diversify the sectors for training. If everyone's being trained with the same skillset for the same industry, they will cannibaslise each other and suppress wages. Train many people in different skills, so each of them fulfill a different role and advance together.

It could just be my uninformed and ignorant impression, but it seems like the government is focusing on AI and information technology related sectors only.


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [30/1/2026 3:39 pm]

1. AI has been identified as the main mover in every industries to boost productivity for workers and business.


2. Hence education and training will likely to emphasize more and more AI driven skillsets, exploiting AI agents to perform work, using LLM to generate codes etc.


3. If students and workers are increasingly moving along this line, there is a danger that students and workers will lose their foundational knowledge and basic skillsets while relying heavily on AI to help students and workers generate the outputs - without understanding the AI codes for example to debug, check for errors due to AI hallucinations, refine the codes, perform troubleshooting and test the codes, perform system integration.


4. Hence in education, IHL, Universities, students must still be trained in the foundation knowledge and skillsets without the help of AI.


5. And then at the later part of each lessons, train using AI as a tool to generate codes - by learning how to formulate problem statement to feed into AI and LLM.


6. While relying AI to give our students and the workers the productivity boost, education and training must still ensure our students and workers possess the foundation and fundamental skillsets eg. Able to code from start to end without AI.


7. Otherwise, our new generation of students and workers will heavily rely on AI, without AI, students and workers cannot do foundation coding.


8. This means our new generation of students and workers will not acquire the basic skillsets in which previous generation possess.


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [30/1/2026 3:58 pm]

Hence I propose IHLs, Universities to set 2 exams.

For example to illustrate for computer science (network) students, they will be test on 2 skillsets:-

1. Generate codes and test cases for 2 routers connectivity using OSPF (without AI).

Show routing successfully completed through ping and traceroute.


2. Use ChatGpt LLM to generate 2 routers connectivity via OSPF.

Modified the AI generated codes to include MD5 security for ospf connectivity.


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [30/1/2026 4:00 pm]

So for 1st exam, students and workers must be able to code from scratch without using AI - to determine whether students and workers have acquired the foundation skillsets of network.


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [30/1/2026 4:01 pm]

! Interfaces

interface GigabitEthernet0/0

 ip address 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.0

 no shutdown

interface GigabitEthernet0/1

 ip address 10.0.0.1 255.255.255.252

 no shutdown

! OSPF Configuration

router ospf 1

 router-id 1.1.1.1

 network 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0

 network 10.0.0.0 0.0.0.3 area 0

end

write memory

๐Ÿ”น Router 2 (R2) Configuration

Copy code

Cisco

enable

configure terminal

hostname R2

! Interfaces

interface GigabitEthernet0/0

 ip address 192.168.2.1 255.255.255.0

 no shutdown

interface GigabitEthernet0/1

 ip address 10.0.0.2 255.255.255.252

 no shutdown

! OSPF Configuration

router ospf 1

 router-id 2.2.2.2

 network 192.168.2.0 0.0.0.255 area 0

 network 10.0.0.0 0.0.0.3 area 0

end

write memory


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [30/1/2026 4:03 pm]

For 2nd exam, the above codes will have been generated by ChatGpt LLM.

Prompt:- Generate cisco configuration codes - using ospf routing between 2 routers.


But candidates will be tested on amending the Cisco codes to include MD5 security in OSPF connectivity without the help of AI ChatGpt.


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [30/1/2026 4:04 pm]

! Interfaces

interface GigabitEthernet0/0

 ip address 192.168.2.1 255.255.255.0

 no shutdown

interface GigabitEthernet0/1

 ip address 10.0.0.2 255.255.255.252

 ip ospf authentication message-digest

 ip ospf message-digest-key 1 md5 OSPF-MD5-KEY

 no shutdown

! OSPF Process

router ospf 1

 router-id 2.2.2.2

 network 192.168.2.0 0.0.0.255 area 0

 network 10.0.0.0 0.0.0.3 area 0

 passive-interface GigabitEthernet0/0

end

write memory


REACH Singapore, [30/1/2026 4:07 pm]

๐Ÿ“ข Topic ๐Ÿ“ข


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [30/1/2026 4:08 pm]

So both exams:-

1. Self coding (no AI).

2. AI generated codes (but students amend the AI codes to include MD5 security) 

Will provide the teachers, professors and the employers the confidence that the students and workers possess the foundation skillsets and knowledge - without losing their basic skills and knowledge.

And yet able to tap on AI to massively boost their productivity.


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [30/1/2026 4:14 pm]

In other words, a worker who come to job interview must possess the skillsets and be able to do :-

1.

2.

Proficiency in 1 only - no good because it shows that the candidate not able to make use of AI to boost his productivity.


Proficiency only in 2 is also no good. 

It means the candidate only know how to use AI to generate codes but does not possess the foundation skills.

If AI hallucinate, or unable to do system integration, this candidate will be at a loss to do debugging and perform system integration - because the candidate does not possess the skillsets of coding - as he rely on AI to do it for him.

So workers and students who possess only 2nd skillsets without the 1st skillsets is not valuable for the company.


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [30/1/2026 4:28 pm]

1. Also notice that for advanced manufacturing, HBM (high bandwidth memory) and GPU chips will be the next frontiers of AI growth.


2. GPU chips production seems to be coming out only from Taiwan and South Korea.

Singapore still unable to attract chips manufacturers to design and manufacture GPU chips in Singapore.

If we succeeded in doing so, our advanced manufacturing sectors will surely boom.


3. But luckily, we manage to secure Micron to pump billions of dollars to design and manufacture HBM for us.

Certainly a big boost to our advanced manufacturing.


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [30/1/2026 5:05 pm]

1. I think AI and IT are use as enabler and productivity tools to boost every industries and every sectors.


2. For example, IT enable online banking, eCommerce, eTransaction, online marketplace, social media etc - allowing business of various industries to leverage on internet to sell their products and services and thus expanding their customer base and reach.


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [30/1/2026 5:10 pm]

3. Customers can put fixed deposit via online banking and no need to take a trip down to the banks.

4. People can buy insurance products via eTransaction through the web.

5. Retailers can sought Livestream social media influencers to market and sell their products.

6. People can buy products via shopping platforms such as shoppe, Lazada, Amazon, Taobao etc.


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [30/1/2026 5:11 pm]

7. People no need to take a trip down to do their passport - everything can be done on the web.


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [30/1/2026 5:12 pm]

8. Shippers can use online website to file all their maritime documentation.


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [30/1/2026 5:14 pm]

https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/singapore/smes/nanyang-optical-plans-enter-voluntary-liquidation-after-65-years-will-close-4-6-stores

Nanyang Optical plans to enter into voluntary liquidation after 65 years; will close 4 of 6 stores.

The eyecare chain’s remaining two stores, which are under franchise arrangements, will continue operating and are unaffected.

This was alongside weaker sales at the outlet, as more customers in Woodlands flock to Johor Bahru to buy related products, he observed.


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [30/1/2026 5:15 pm]

A very established local spectacle business is forced into liquidation because it is not able to transform itself.

If it is able to market its products online, probably he can grow and expand its business rather than go for liquidation.


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [30/1/2026 5:29 pm]

The reasons why I propose to emphasize:-

1. Acquire foundation skillsets 

2. Use AI to boost productivity 

Is not to make the same mistakes like previously, we are coaxed to outsource all our coding, programming and software development to India, Philippines in the jest to save cost while our workforce concentrate on project management.

As a result, we lose the basic foundation skillsets and engineering knowledge to other countries.

We are force to in-sourced our software development and IT engineering skills back a few years later, as our economy lost our vital hardcore skills.

Also recall there is one opposition TJS who say we should offshore the whole manufacturing sectors to other low cost countries but only concentrate in service industries like US.

Luckily we didn't do it, else we end up like US - lose out the global manufacturing capabilities and capacity to China.

So in the case of AI, we must never make the same mistakes again by outsourcing coding to AI and lose the coding skills.

Once lost, very difficult to restart and regain it.


Khai Mun L., [30/1/2026 5:42 pm]

Don't agree with becoming leader in AI. Very hard to compete against countries that pump money into state controlled companies to attract local and overseas talents. SG cannot afford to all-in to this sector while letting other industries lapse. There is limited manpower and resources

Khai Mun L., [30/1/2026 5:46 pm]

Plus the term AI is used understood differently by some leaders. We should get digitalization first before wholesale into generative or AI learning models.

So many other tech stuff to consider first-power, water to maintain servers, cyber security, integration between departments and society, balance the hiring of foreigners to train/work in advanced AI firms, better ways of counter misinformation from AI etc

Jun Ming, [30/1/2026 5:58 pm]

Ai and automation are leading. If growth are all related to ai which means jobs will be lost while gdp increase. Then attracting foreigner will be redundant as it only creates limited jobs to Singaporean 

2.if there's massive fail in ai then Singapore will be stagnant

Jun Ming, [30/1/2026 6:02 pm]

manufacturing decarbonisation  and space and ai interesting

REACH Singapore, [30/1/2026 6:02 pm]

๐Ÿ“ข Topic ๐Ÿ“ข


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [30/1/2026 6:12 pm]

I think the fear of AI replacing jobs is real.

Very important to reassure workers that AI won't replace jobs.


Jun Ming, [30/1/2026 6:18 pm]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DUH8Psyj5WD/?igsh=MTAyaGc1cW9sbjk3ZA==

Jun Ming, [30/1/2026 6:19 pm]

Gan say that economic growth does not equal to new jobs


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [30/1/2026 6:21 pm]

"Humans must learn to collaborate with artificial intelligence: Josephine Teo".

https://www.straitstimes.com/tech/humans-must-learn-to-collaborate-with-artificial-intelligence-josephine-teo#:~:text=Humans%20must%20learn%20to%20collaborate%20with%20artificial%20intelligence%3A%20Josephine%20Teo


Jun Ming, [30/1/2026 6:21 pm]

The truth is when technology improve less entry level jobs is needed

Jun Ming, [30/1/2026 6:22 pm]

you cannot expect everyone is in mid level or senior level

Jun Ming, [30/1/2026 6:24 pm]

The boss will say since ai can do this for me why would I need you

Jun Ming, [30/1/2026 6:25 pm]

DBS expects to shrink contract and temp jobs by 4,000 over next 3 years as AI replaces roles 

https://www.straitstimes.com/business/banking/dbs-ceo-piyush-gupta-sees-job-cuts-of-4000-temp-staff-as-ai-replaces-roles

Adam, [30/1/2026 6:26 pm]

Why are they personifying AI. Its like saying people need to learn to collaborate with cars. AI should be a tool. Maybe these people talk to a chatbot intimitely at home

Jun Ming, [30/1/2026 6:28 pm]

Sometimes it's not about learning about ai, it's the nature of it. The job is unavailable at the first place

Jun Ming, [30/1/2026 6:28 pm]

Are those 4000 people don't want to learn about ai?

Jun Ming, [30/1/2026 6:29 pm]

They are more willing to learn but there's no vacancy for them


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [30/1/2026 6:30 pm]

[26/01, 3:29 pm] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: "JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon says he welcomes government ban on mass-firing people for AI: ‘We’re going to cure a lot of cancers’".

 https://fortune.com/2026/01/22/jpmorgan-chase-ceo-jamie-dimon-ai-layoff-income-assist-workers-elon-musk-sam-altman-universal-basic-income/#:~:text=JPMorgan%20CEO%20Jamie%20Dimon%20says%20he%20welcomes%20government%20ban%20on%20mass%2Dfiring%20people%20for%20AI%3A%20%E2%80%98We%E2%80%99re%20going%20to%20cure%20a%20lot%20of%20cancers%E2%80%99

[26/01, 5:41 pm] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: Goodness.

JP Morgan CEO prediction is true.

If AI displace fresh graduates, there will be civil unrest.

All lose.

Hence companies must employ despite using AI.


Jun Ming, [30/1/2026 6:31 pm]

It's already a tool in majority of the students during research. Lol. Even ntu penalise using ai in assignment

Jun Ming, [30/1/2026 6:31 pm]

Who don't use gpt nowadays

Jun Ming, [30/1/2026 6:34 pm]

Even in resume people are using ai

Jun Ming, [30/1/2026 6:35 pm]

Companies will say I am still employing just that not as much


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [30/1/2026 6:38 pm]

Yes.

Generally this is the fear many workers will be facing.

But as long as government and business can convince all the workers will have jobs, AI will complement us rather than replace us.

Using AI will bring higher income in terms of higher salary because of higher productivity, then I think we will feel ok.

Now is the uncertainties cause by AI that creeps in fuel by many negative reporting in US and the US companies - about AI replacing jobs.


Jun Ming, [30/1/2026 6:39 pm]

Another thing to note is decarbonisation and being a leader of ai is in a conflict position

Jun Ming, [30/1/2026 6:39 pm]

Ai generates a lot of carbon footprint

Ethan, [30/1/2026 6:39 pm]

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/psle-singapore-exam-dsa-desmond-lee-5891926

Ethan, [30/1/2026 6:39 pm]

This is absurd

Jun Ming, [30/1/2026 6:40 pm]

Which I foresee ai carbon tax coming out

Jun Ming, [30/1/2026 6:46 pm]

Nobody knows what to do as AI drives a surge in carbon emissions

https://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/nobody-knows-what-to-do-as-ai-drives-a-surge-in-carbon-emissions


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [30/1/2026 6:47 pm]

One way to cushion the impact of carbon emissions from AI is to use green energy eg. Nuclear energy (non-radioactive type).


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [30/1/2026 6:49 pm]

Source :- Google AI

Big tech firms are increasingly turning to nuclear energy to power energy-intensive AI data centers, seeking 24/7, carbon-free, and reliable electricity. Companies like Amazon, Google, and Meta are signing deals for advanced nuclear technology, particularly Small Modular Reactors (SMRs), which offer a smaller footprint and scalability. Nuclear is viewed as a crucial, sustainable alternative to fossil fuels to meet soaring demand, with projects accelerating to come online by 2030. 


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [30/1/2026 6:58 pm]

This is the same sentiment when computerisation kick-in in the 1990s - many fear that computerisation and IT will replace many jobs.

Though it does replace jobs like typists (many people type using computers) not typewriters.

Computerisation, IT and internet have in fact trigger a full blown digitalisation jobs throughout the economy.

I suspect AI will do the same.

But this period of uncertainties, how AI transform jobs or will it replace our jobs - make everyone nervous.

Only when the AI dust settle down, then workers will know how to anchor ourselves.

Meanwhile there will be anxieties.

But as long as our government, business and union workers work closely together, I think all our people jobs will be secured.

But as workers or business, we need to adjust and transform to exploit AI as it comes.

Else we could end up like those established business - need to close down or liquidate.


Jun Ming, [30/1/2026 7:26 pm]

Before it settle down there definitely have a job shortage as people do not know what is in demand

Jun Ming, [30/1/2026 7:26 pm]

Or rather what is the right skills is needed.

Khai Mun L., [30/1/2026 7:26 pm]

There can never be guarantee that jobs won't be lost because of AI.

Companies, not government, make the decision based on their own business needs.

Jun Ming, [30/1/2026 7:27 pm]

Ai have make it hard to identify what is real what is ai

Jun Ming, [30/1/2026 7:28 pm]

A lot of misinformation can be spread easily, it's very hard to verify

Jun Ming, [30/1/2026 7:29 pm]

Especially knowledge based stuff

REACH Singapore, [30/1/2026 7:45 pm]

Dear Contributors,

⏰ We will be closing the chat in 15 minutes ⏰

Thank you very much for being part of our Telegram chat and participating actively.

Goodnight!

Megan ๐Ÿ˜Š

RY, [30/1/2026 7:55 pm]

AI is an unevitable trend, whether U like it or not. We have to keep up to pace whether in education/work/different industries n etc

I recently attended the AI course with the skillsFuture credits. I now understand with AI, it may replace human jobs eg graphic designer/analyst and etc

AI is a new arena that can do many things eg analysing/marketing in biz n etc. Many new software eg Canva n etc, with the use of AI that may generate images/videos/content/analysing/slides n etc 

It really helps to slim-line many work process with AI

However, there are many cons also eg deepfakes that can be generated just using AI

Further, many copyrights issues fm the contents/videos/images generated fm AI

REACH Singapore, [30/1/2026 8:00 pm]

Dear Contributors

We will be closing the chat for today.

Thank you very much for being part of our Telegram chat and participating actively.

Goodnight!

Megan ๐Ÿ˜Š


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Wednesday, January 28, 2026

REACH (Telegram) 116 -   What are your views on the Government's approach towards building a “We-first” society? What more can be done?

(SK)

28 Jan 2026 (10am - 7pm)


REACH (Telegram)

REACH Singapore, [28/1/2026 9:45 am]

Dear Contributors,

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REACH Singapore, [28/1/2026 10:00 am]

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A "we first" society could include foreigners, and the idea encourages individuals to focus on the community instead of themselves, Deputy Prime Minister Gan Kim Yong said at a dialogue at the Institute of Policy Studies '(IPS) 2026 Singapore Perspectives conference on 26 January. Mr Gan was responding to a question about how speeches that evoke a “we first” society may be perceived as referring to Singaporeans, unintentionally excluding foreigners, especially when leaders call on individuals to be involved in integration efforts.

Mr Gan shared his interpretation of a “we first” society, emphasising that "rather than focusing on ourselves, focus on the collective. And the ‘we’ could include foreigners."

๐Ÿ’ฌ What are your views on the Government's approach towards building a “We-first” society? What more can be done?

In a separate panel at the Institute of Policy Studies’ Singapore Perspectives conference on 26 January, Acting Minister for Culture, Community and Youth David Neo also stated that building a “we first” society in Singapore will be challenging not due to a lack of resources or laws, but because it requires a profound shift in how people here relate to one another. He added that such a society is one where people look beyond their own interests to contribute to the larger good of the community.

๐Ÿ“Œ  Balancing Immigration and Social Cohesion

Deputy Prime Minister Gan Kim Yong said that with immigration, the key question is how to integrate foreigners and ensure that Singaporeans can work with them for the benefit of Singapore. He also noted that despite Singapore’s immigration policies, its citizenship growth rate has come down over time.

He also accepted that Singaporeans sometimes feel that they face a lot of competition at work from fellow Singaporeans, foreigners and even new citizens. “I think this sense of competition is real. We have to recognise that. But it is also something we have to accept that we just have to continue to compete with the rest of the world,” he added. "So we have to make sure that our people will be the most competitive in the world" said Mr Gan.

๐Ÿ“Œ  Integration as a Two-Way Effort

One way to nurture a 'we first' society is to create opportunities for people to interact, and by doing so, deepen their understanding of one another in spite of differences, said Mr Neo. He cited examples of such interactions building across the island, such as how a dozen residents in Yio Chu Kang come together every month to prepare meals and organise activities for some 40 seniors, with food supplied by the local hawkers’ association. "We all have the capacity to initiate or support such efforts in our own spheres, and in our own ways,” he said.

Acting Transport Minister Jeffrey Siow, speaking at a panel discussion titled "Navigating Challenges to Social Cohesion: at the Institute of Policy Studies’ (IPS) Singapore Perspectives conference (26 Jan) also reiterated that all sides will have to make extra effort on this – newcomers must consciously want to integrate, contribute to the community, abide by norms here, and understand what it means to be Singaporean. Singaporeans must be open-minded too; they have to accept that the national identity today will evolve and it will take time for newcomers to adapt to local customs and practices, he added.

๐Ÿ“Œ  Building a Shared Singapore Identity

Mr Gan stressed that it is important to continue to focus on measures that encourage and support social integration, especially with new citizens. "They have spent a good part of their life in a different culture, have different practices, maybe hold different values," said Mr Gan. "But the fact that they have decided to become Singapore citizens, they have decided that there's something common between Singapore and them … want to become part of this bigger fraternity," he added. The challenge is to see how to recognise the differences while expanding the common space between new citizens and existing Singaporeans to become a more dynamic society, he said.

REACH Singapore, [28/1/2026 10:00 am]

Useful Links

๐Ÿ‘‰ https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/we-first-society-foreigner-immigration-integration-ips-gan-kim-yong-5883906

๐Ÿ‘‰ https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/building-a-we-first-society-requires-deep-mindset-shifts-david-neo

๐Ÿ‘‰ https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/spore-must-do-more-integration-as-immigration-is-crucial-for-economy-amid-low-tfr-jeffrey-siow

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Adam, [28/1/2026 10:59 am]

I believe in we first. We should include foreigners and and women in ns.

Doesnt have to be military. We have scdf nsf.

We have shortage of nurses for our elders. Need staff to cook good food for our young. We need more blood to serve the community over themselves

Adam, [28/1/2026 11:00 am]

Can we really have we first if only a quarter of the total population puts society before themselves?

REACH Singapore, [28/1/2026 11:02 am]

[ Poll : 1. I agree that immigration is crucial for Singapore’s economy. Please share your views in the chat! ]

- Strongly agree

- Agree

- Neutral

- Disagree 

- Strongly disagree 

REACH Singapore, [28/1/2026 11:02 am]

[ Poll : 2. I am comfortable with the pace of growth of foreigners in Singapore. Please share your views in the chat! ]

- Strongly agree

- Agree

- Neutral

- Disagree

- Strongly disagree

Adam, [28/1/2026 11:06 am]

If gov wants we first, dont half hearted do a system ripe for exploitation.

Everything has a price. Many singaporeans probably wont mind getting punched in the face if you give them a thousand dollars first.

There is a cost to having a higher population through immigration, but i think a societal cost needs to be paid. They enjoy the security paid by nsmen. Stability of our culture.

Adam, [28/1/2026 11:07 am]

I get the ideal the some things a 'priceless'. But realistically we need to put a sticker value on it, just like how insurance values human life and limb. Erp and coe puts a value to the strain of our transport infrastructure

REACH Singapore, [28/1/2026 11:08 am]

Dear Contributors,

Please take a moment to participate in our polls and share your opinion. 

The poll questions are pinned for easy reference and your vote is anonymous. 

We look forward to hearing your thoughts on today’s topic!

๐Ÿ’ฌ What are your views on the Government's approach towards building a "We-first" society? What more can be done?

Thank you.

Megan

Andy, [28/1/2026 11:14 am]

This is a very natural progression for countries with declining birth rates. People are like fuel to a nation, we need to get from elsewhere if we do not have enough ourselves. 

So I think we also need to discuss on how best to increase birth rates as immigration is the consequence.

Separately, there is also the discussion on how we can be highly selective of immigration and whether 'ease of integration' is already a criteria or not.

As for the article.. it is a straightforward political statement. Nothing really to find fault with, takes 2 hands to clap, bla bla.

Andy, [28/1/2026 11:17 am]

Trump also mentioned (very bluntly) how US should be selective of migrants. I think Singaporeans have the same sentiment, we want quality people, courteous, helpful, valuable, but we should be tactful about it.

Adam, [28/1/2026 11:19 am]

I notice a lot residents have allegiences else where. They contribute a lot to cpf to have tax benefirts. Even can top up to get matched by the gov. Then can withdraw tax free when renounce. In a we first society, we need to tax people who withdraw the foreigner income tax rate. We cannot be letting other have me first while we bankroll them in matching schemes

365, [28/1/2026 11:25 am]

I agree with this, any full withdrawal outside of the normal 55 then 65, should be taxed as income. This amount was not taxed initially, so there is no double taxation. Once they withdraw as foreigners no longer in our system, this amount is basically a part of their cumulative income

365, [28/1/2026 11:26 am]

Does not punish Singaporeans for remaining Singaporeans, and also does not give a free pass of benefits for those not aligned with Singapore.

365, [28/1/2026 11:29 am]

Immigration as an economic solution is a bandaid that has been on for too long. I view this as an acceptable short term solution. But this "short term" has dragged on for too long, there seems to be no solution to the root cause for population structural issue

Adam, [28/1/2026 11:44 am]

I want to talk about the english proficiency of people in our country

Adam, [28/1/2026 11:45 am]

There are many customer facing workers that i cant communicate easily with as they only speak chinese

Adam, [28/1/2026 11:45 am]

What can the gov do about it?

Adam, [28/1/2026 11:46 am]

Can we force companies to send the staff to send the workers to english classes on their money?

Adam, [28/1/2026 11:49 am]

In a we first society that includes foreigners. There should be a effort to learn to communicate in english as most singaporeans speak it

Adam, [28/1/2026 11:49 am]

The gov of old saw the importance of everyone having a common tongue

Adam, [28/1/2026 11:50 am]

In a we first society, the business that hires non english staff needs to ensure their staff can speak it. Maybe help fund them

RY, [28/1/2026 1:05 pm]

SG is a multi-racial nation when started. SG immigration policy is expected due to declining birth rate. Even country like Japan due to low birth, is also opening up to immigration in recent years 

If USA didnt open her doors to foreigners after World War, dont think they may become prosperous and super power now

I suppose "We First" concept, should be also part of our Inclusive Society, as long as they are residents of SG, whether they are singaporean/PR/whatever pass they are holding eg employment/student/long term pass and etc 

However, although we are a inclusive society due to multi-racial culture, some policies eg MRSS/MMSS in CPF, only citizens can entitle. And Govt policies eg financial assistance shd prioritise singaporeans first always  

Maybe govt financial assistance should look at household income as a whole, and not at the type of housing sometimes eg Silver Support Scheme not extended to seniors staying in 5Rm flat? Shdnt the govt encouraging children to stay with parents, and looking after them when they are ageing over the years 

Having said that I find the SkillsFuture credits for singaporeans very useful. It is kind of encouraging matured workers to upskills & enhance knowledge, in the midst of the changing world eg technology/knowledge example AI 

Since PR has the choice of leaving/renouncing, then their entitlements/assistance/subsidy n etc shd be limited 

I am glad that the MRSS(Match Retirement Saving Scheme) is expanded to People with Disability of younger age starting 2026. As this is also part of the SG Enable, and people of disability, they shd entitle to more benefits/subsidy/financial assistance, so as to demonstrate our Inclusive Society Concept 

Many foreigners that I know and came to SG is quite impress that SG govt built "walkway shelter" for residents/lift at some overheadbridge and etc, that many countries may not have such facilities ..... 

It is also a gd initiative for Govt to start the MMSS(Matched Medisave Saving Scheme) this year. Hope govt may expand to those age 70 also, rather than btw 55-70 

I concur that if the PR renounced, then they shd not be entitled to any benefits fm SG govt, and their CPF shd be withdrawn with taxing, since they already earn interests over the years in Cpf

Jun Ming, [28/1/2026 1:26 pm]

Only when foreigner wanted to be in the we, contribute to Singaporean then we can only includes them in the we. If the new comer acts like yaya Papaya and don't respect Singapore culture, trying to overturned it then sorry even they are Singaporean it's hard to include in the we

Jun Ming, [28/1/2026 1:27 pm]

To be accepted in the "we" we have stringent criteria

Jun Ming, [28/1/2026 1:28 pm]

After all we Singaporean are very kind

Jun Ming, [28/1/2026 1:29 pm]

Birthrates will continue to fall if gov doesn't limit the capacity of intake of foreigner

Jun Ming, [28/1/2026 1:30 pm]

After all more competition means less resources which also means our offspring have a higher chance to lose out

Jun Ming, [28/1/2026 1:31 pm]

From a biology perspective

Jun Ming, [28/1/2026 1:32 pm]

So I propose in order to better integrate new citizens we need those new comer to be pr for at least 15 yrs.

Khai Mun L., [28/1/2026 1:57 pm]

How did you come to number of 15? Why not 5 etc..

REACH Singapore, [28/1/2026 2:01 pm]

๐Ÿ“ข Topic ๐Ÿ“ข

Jun Ming, [28/1/2026 2:04 pm]

You need at least 10 yr to integrate mah plus new citizens tend to have a lot of connection overseas too so they every year will go back to their home land for a month or more also. When they become Singaporean rule of them needed to stay in Singapore for a certain number of days lifted. So 10-15 yrs will allow them to stay in Singapore long enough to integrate in

Khai Mun L., [28/1/2026 2:05 pm]

Personally, i believe the issue is because locals not making babies.

 an extreme idea, forced marriages since men have to do compulsory national service?

Jun Ming, [28/1/2026 2:06 pm]

Cause existing rules say 2 yrs

Jun Ming, [28/1/2026 2:06 pm]

Which I don't think can integrate lor

Jun Ming, [28/1/2026 2:07 pm]

And 5 yr very fast de covid to now already 5 yr

Jun Ming, [28/1/2026 2:08 pm]

10-15 yr will allow them to learn singlish well too

Daniel, [28/1/2026 2:10 pm]

I feel one way of having more people stay in Singapore is to allow double citizenship for children born to binational parents and having grown up in Singapore. Those people have very strong ties to Singapore and also have to serve NS currently but then at 21 have to pick one nationality. Some of them will chose to give up the Singapore passport because they want to go try out living in their other home country and later find it hard to come back because they don't have citizenship any more. I feel this group of people, having grown up here, do not have the same sort of conflict of interest linked to double nationals as people acquiring the citizenship when they are adult and this could strengthen the Singaporean core by encouraging more of them to chose to stay in Singapore.

Jun Ming, [28/1/2026 2:14 pm]

Nope. As tension build you never know if war comes in the future

365, [28/1/2026 2:26 pm]

This just allows them to play both sides, there's no benefit for them to renounce down the line, so they fully enjoy the benefits of a citizen without the need to commit

Khai Mun L., [28/1/2026 2:31 pm]

The benefits of being citizens come later in life and to their next generations (if PR or citizen). In the form of healthcare (more spending in old agr), lifelong payout from cpf, and school fees during young

Daniel, [28/1/2026 2:32 pm]

It works well for many other countries. And it's one way to get more Singaporeans to stay in Singapore. In the end have to weigh the pros and cons, but if people are against allowing more immigrants without ties into the country, then that's one option to counteract this a bit in my opinion. Because let's be frank, at 21 most people haven't sorted their life out yet, so maybe they'll come back and stay here after they finish their studies overseas (good for Singapore, no need to subsidise their studies) or to settle down and start a family. If we're really scared about them just reaping the benefits, then have them chose at 30 or 35 instead.

365, [28/1/2026 2:36 pm]

Professional employment as well. I know it's very common to portray in the media that companies are hiring only foreigners, but I've came across a non-insignificant number of recruitment favoring locals. 

This however might also be tied to the common practice and needs of the industry.

Adam, [28/1/2026 2:39 pm]

Even if you come across all these recruitment, is the listings real?

Adam, [28/1/2026 2:40 pm]

When you go to office what is listed might be different from what you see

365, [28/1/2026 2:40 pm]

Yes, I perform my checks and have a pretty high confidence that it is real

Adam, [28/1/2026 2:40 pm]

Lots of people get hired through other channels

365, [28/1/2026 2:41 pm]

These aren't even from me searching listings, they are HR people approaching me

365, [28/1/2026 2:42 pm]

Like I mentioned, this may also be heavily influenced by the needs of the industry, since I have not jumped industries yet

Jun Ming, [28/1/2026 2:45 pm]

I always envy new citizens as they can still go back to their Homeland for cheaper healthcare cost. For Singaporean we have nothing. No plan b

REACH Singapore, [28/1/2026 3:00 pm]

Dear Contributors,

Please take a moment to participate in our polls and share your opinion. 

The poll questions are pinned for easy reference and your vote is anonymous. 

We look forward to hearing your thoughts on today’s topic!

๐Ÿ’ฌ What are your views on the Government's approach towards building a "We-first" society? What more can be done?

Thank you.

Megan


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [28/1/2026 3:08 pm]

1. Immigration is an emotional topic - it apply not only to Singapore, but everywhere else in the World.


2. In the World where globalisation has taken a toll on citizens in the economic front, jobs - far right and nationalism rear its head - that has given rise to more tense geopolitical tussling and jostling.


3. Hence the discussion on today's topic, We first versus Me first - that touches on the inclusion of Foreigners into We first - will certainly see more robust and emotional discussion - because human basic natural raw instinct is to protect "Self" first before talking about "We first" much less about pulling in "foreigners" into We first.


4. In today's context of AI job distuptor, and Geopolitical tussling that make the economic pie smaller, emotions on immigration - the fear of adding an additional factor to "compete for jobs and affect the livelihood" while trying to emerge from AI and Geopolitics - is understandable.


5. Hence today's topic is not an easy topic - but must address head on - because it will affect our "existential" existence if not address properly - by first making people understand our predicarment we are in - and the needs for immigration.


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [28/1/2026 3:18 pm]

1. First, our population will get old and getting older. There must be another generation of young citizens to take over the Country when the generation get old. 

But sadly the TFR is 0.97 - way below the replacement rate of 2.1.

That is, only 0.97 human produce every year to replace 2 adults lost - which is way below replacement of our older folks - and this is an existential threat to Singapore survival and the ability to thrive.


2. Now let us look at how we perform in the global stage ----- many Number 1 in global ranking on many fields.

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSamhTjnU/

Singapore global rankings in the world in 2025.

How did we get so far as a "little red dot" - human capital, human talents.

Without sufficient replacement for our human capital - Singapore cannot come so far and perform so well.


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [28/1/2026 3:25 pm]

3. Hence, there is a need to look at 2nd best option, Immigrants that are willing to come to Singpaore to contribute to our Economy, integrate well with our Society and Communities, willing to be Singaporeans, try to be Singaporeans, behave like Singaporeans, and immerse with our culture as Singaporeans and talk like Singaporeans (eg. in Singlish).


4. But of course such new immigrants and new citizens cannot be totally behave like Singaporeans as they come from another Countries and hence will inherit their home culture, languages, behavior, etc - but as long as they are willing to integrate with us - we need to open our hearts and minds to accept them and help them to integrate --- because we need them especially if they are talents that we need or they have something to contribute that will benefit all of us and make our Country stronger, better and prosperous.


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [28/1/2026 3:40 pm]

5. To relate my experience with immigrants on the personal front. Without talented immigrants, my initial career upstart will not be as smooth. Because IT and computer science profession is just at its nascent stage at that time --- mainframe era.


6. My senior, a Malaysian PR is technically very sound - and nurture me from a fresh graduate to become a solid senior engineer.


7. My technical boss is also a Malaysia PR that have given me opportunities and useful roles to perform in many big projects.

Both are very nice and nuturing boss. 

Though very thankful to the person that recruited me is a Singaporean Manager.

And my 2nd interview is by a HK PR who is an Assistant Chief Executive.


8. Without immigrants, Singapore will have lacked the required skillsets and talents to function and grow - train and nurture local citizens to helm the new technologies.


9. Thinking aloud, Goh Keng Swee is a Malaysian from Malacca. On the hindsight, without GKS, Singapore will probably won't gain independence and self-rule. We won't have a first class financial system back by gold. Our Economy will not rise up well. Our industry will not have an upstart in manufacturing. We won't be able to start a capable full fledge SAF back up by defence contractors.


Khai Mun L., [28/1/2026 3:55 pm]

Locals to get married and make babies! Talk no use, do action.. haha


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [28/1/2026 3:58 pm]

Unfortunately, many young folks want to remain singles.

And for some who married don't want to have babies.

Wonder how to improve our TFR to 2.1?


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [28/1/2026 3:59 pm]

"IMF prepares for global run on US dollar.

The EU should issue more common debt to provide investors with an alternative safe asset to gold and US Treasuries, the Fund's managing director said".

https://www.euractiv.com/news/imf-prepares-for-global-run-on-us-dollar/#:~:text=IMF%20prepares%20for,managing%20director%20said


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [28/1/2026 4:01 pm]

Btw this topic is extremely important for our government to look into.

US treasury and the global finance is ticking into a time bomb.

Important to have railguards at hand to safeguard our sovereign wealth and global investment.


Daniel, [28/1/2026 4:01 pm]

Yeah, and not only that. 2.1 means need to have more than 2 kids on average. I got 2 already, definitely don't want more. Most of the support is only for the first two years, after that not much. Also childcare leave is not enough to cover school closures and sickness etc. For us, it's too stressful and we decided not to have a 3rd one. So even those who want to have kids now often stop at 1 or 2.

Adam, [28/1/2026 4:01 pm]

Speaking of this, i heard there is a growing cultural shift. People dont officially get married. People go in 'situationships'

Basically people scared of commitment


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [28/1/2026 4:02 pm]

This trend is no good for Singapore in our TFR.

Could cause more social problems.


Adam, [28/1/2026 4:02 pm]

From men they scared that marraige law favors women. Women want more freedom than tied down

Adam, [28/1/2026 4:04 pm]

Also relationship dynamics, women wants wealthier partner. But these days, women earn more than men especially early in career

Adam, [28/1/2026 4:06 pm]

So if people focus on work instead of setting with partner in their early adult years, how will the country grow?

Adam, [28/1/2026 4:06 pm]

At my 20s already stressed cannot get hdb

Jun Ming, [28/1/2026 4:06 pm]

Down to the core cost of living the main factors

Jun Ming, [28/1/2026 4:07 pm]

I am in my 20s right now but I fear to find a partner


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [28/1/2026 4:07 pm]

When I started my career, my salary is only $1,600.

I got married and work hard in my career and very frugal in my spendings.

I still raise a family.

Grit and determination carry me through.


Daniel, [28/1/2026 4:07 pm]

That and also time factor. Having kids means burning all your leaves and free time on looking after. I can understand people don't want that.

Jun Ming, [28/1/2026 4:08 pm]

I got not enough money and time to try and error where scammers are out there and relationship sometimes can look like scam

Jun Ming, [28/1/2026 4:08 pm]

I got scammed in online dating app

Adam, [28/1/2026 4:09 pm]

Im scared of online dating

Adam, [28/1/2026 4:09 pm]

Nowadays got ai


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [28/1/2026 4:09 pm]

Wonder if there are government sanctions dating agencies or apps to help Singaporeans or not.


Jun Ming, [28/1/2026 4:09 pm]

Coffee meets bagel is a good app

Adam, [28/1/2026 4:09 pm]

People might scrape your profile and do weird stuff

Jun Ming, [28/1/2026 4:10 pm]

But now I just not ready to find one lor

Jun Ming, [28/1/2026 4:10 pm]

No money

Adam, [28/1/2026 4:10 pm]

I wonder how they verify people real


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [28/1/2026 4:10 pm]

Previously they have sdu, sds.

Now look like disbanded already.


Jun Ming, [28/1/2026 4:10 pm]

Hardly can feed myself

Jun Ming, [28/1/2026 4:10 pm]

Singpass


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [28/1/2026 4:11 pm]

I thought government should partners with credible private dating agencies to help Singaporeans go dating and get hitched - work on credible dating apps as well.

Previously some of my relatives marriage is through sdu.


Adam, [28/1/2026 4:12 pm]

In dating app a lot of people also dont put effort. Many dont show proper photo. If apply job but your cv empty who hire? Same in dating

Jun Ming, [28/1/2026 4:12 pm]

Like a minister say nowadays not many people have close friends

Jun Ming, [28/1/2026 4:12 pm]

A friend you can call in 2am

Adam, [28/1/2026 4:13 pm]

Issue is where is the incentive for proper match? Whats stopping the companies to charge people monthly as long as they stuck single

Jun Ming, [28/1/2026 4:13 pm]

Money

Jun Ming, [28/1/2026 4:13 pm]

Dating is not a priority as everyone is lack of money


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [28/1/2026 4:13 pm]

I think previously sdu are credible and they don't fleece participants.


Jun Ming, [28/1/2026 4:14 pm]

Those with money are focusing on how to stay relevant lol

Adam, [28/1/2026 4:14 pm]

๐Ÿค” on the topic of immigration, maybe need breeding visas

Jun Ming, [28/1/2026 4:14 pm]

With such a intense competition

Adam, [28/1/2026 4:15 pm]

I wonder how easy people who find partner overseas get to settle family here

Adam, [28/1/2026 4:15 pm]

Not uncommon give birth girl here and boy in foreign spouse country

Adam, [28/1/2026 4:16 pm]

So much for we first

Adam, [28/1/2026 4:16 pm]

Gov should look into people gaming the system

Adam, [28/1/2026 4:16 pm]

See how to make the dream of we first work

Daniel, [28/1/2026 4:18 pm]

I know a lot of such families. If they want to live her long term, they'll chose to register their boys here. Doesn't make sense financially otherwise.

Andy, [28/1/2026 4:20 pm]

That's a very interesting perspective.. why leh? Just because boys need serve NS 18 years later?

Andy, [28/1/2026 4:20 pm]

Don't understand what's the main consideration here

Daniel, [28/1/2026 4:22 pm]

Yeah, most people I know will let their sons do NS unless they don't want to live in Singapore.

Andy, [28/1/2026 4:24 pm]

I understand that. But confused about what Adam said about 'give birth to girl here but boy in foreign spouse country'.

Daniel, [28/1/2026 4:24 pm]

Same, me too

Andy, [28/1/2026 4:24 pm]

๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [28/1/2026 4:26 pm]

Actually "We" Concept is a profound philosophical concept.

Have written this long time ago when it was first coin - during PM Lawrence Wong opening speech - but no opportunity to post it.

Now can post it here.


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [28/1/2026 4:27 pm]

Thursday, September 25, 2025

"We" Concept* (https://babe118.blogspot.com/2025/09/we-concept.html)

 "We" Concept*


1. Let us discuss the concept of "We" in policy formulation coin by our Government for Parliament 2025.


2. "We" in layman terms can also be referred to as "Empathy" - ability to stand into others' shoes while standing in your own shoes to look at issues and coining solutions or policies taking into consideration our own interests and others' interests into account as a starting point.

Hence any solutions and policies coming from the "We mindset" will benefits everyone including ourselves.


3. This encompasses the virtue of understanding and employing the "Larger whole" (the Greater Wheel) is more important than our own "selfish interest - that benefits only me or I (the Smaller Wheel).


4. Hence, we can visualise the extrapolation of "We" thoughts:-

a. Beginning with one point (Self interest) 。(one-pointedness)


b. Extend upwards, downwards, horizontally, vertically (ไธŠๅบฆ,ไธ‹ๅบฆ。ๆจชๅบฆ, ็ซ–ๅบฆ。)  + (Cross)

i. top people that can make decision and higher income groups;

ii. lower hierarchy that include lower income groups;

(both form the verticals),

iii. horizontally - our peers, middle income groups


c. And then transform into extending into the well beings of ( ไธ‰็™พๅ…ญๅๅบฆ,ๆ— ๆ‰€ไธๅบฆ。)๐Ÿ›ž (Greater Wheel)

i. all rounded considerations 360 degree - a wheel - every residents, citizens, PRs  &/or foreigners.

ii. also include animals, cats, dogs, wild animals.

iii. extending into global climate, coastal protection

iv. relationship and well being with foreign Countries, leaders and their countrymen.


5. In profound form, "We" concept of a person must encompass 3 important attributes :-

a. Selfless (ability to empathise not only with self, but also others)


b. Compassion (all policies must be compassionate - to bring positive outcomes to self and others, and must not cause harm or miseries to others while benefitting self)


c. Anchor on Wisdom - hence coming out with wholesome solutions or policies that is a workable one, balanced ones, based on merits and trade off (with selfless and compassion disposition).

The Enlightened Mind.


6. And if a person is able to consistently, inherently, mindfully employing the "We" concept based on all the above considerations - then policies and solutions coined - will be a wholesome one that include the merits of :

i. Win-win outcomes

ii. Mutual benefits

iii. Ability to competently resolve issues with minimal adverse side effects.


This is the profound explanation of "We" concept in respond to PM Lawrence Wong statement in Parliament.


Addressing parliament in his first speech at the start of the term of government since becoming prime minister, Mr Wong added: “We will strive to create more fulfilling lives for you. And not just for a few among you, but for all of you."

The PM spoke about a “we first” society (https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/ndr-lawrence-wong-society-collective-action-singapore-spirit-5298826) at his National Day Rally speech in August, Mr Wong urged Singaporeans to embrace their individuality and help everyone be the best possible versions of themselves.

“At the same time, we have to look out for one another and lift each other up. Only then can we be greater than the sum of our parts,” he added.

Source :- CNA news


Khai Mun L., [28/1/2026 4:31 pm]

We are too money-minded nowadays, don't put priority on character and morales


LCL (Danny ๅฟƒ), [28/1/2026 4:32 pm]

Morals.


Khai Mun L., [28/1/2026 4:32 pm]

Actually as long as willing to work hard, won't starve in sg. Don't compare with others and get jealous of their wealth. Work hard/smart and get your 'revenge'

Adam, [28/1/2026 4:35 pm]

The construction worker is the hardest worker in sg. Literally building this nation. Surely they can retire here right?

Andy, [28/1/2026 4:39 pm]

Striving for success is what brought SG here today by our predecessors. Not a bad thing. But yes about morals - parents play a key role to instill values in their children and set a good example. To a large extent, not something people can 'learn from books' in school

Andy, [28/1/2026 4:41 pm]

Hard worker? Yes. Hardest worker? Hmm, I'm sure there any many working hard too in other ways just not physically

Adam, [28/1/2026 4:41 pm]

We all know the morals our parents instil plays a key role.

How can we ensure that non singaporeans in singapore have good morals in a we first society?

Andy, [28/1/2026 4:41 pm]

By the way.. is it related to your profile picture ๐Ÿ˜‚

Adam, [28/1/2026 4:42 pm]

We have no control on how other countries raise them. Is there something that needs to be done for integration?

Andy, [28/1/2026 4:42 pm]

Very good question. I like to hear your suggestions

Adam, [28/1/2026 4:43 pm]

Firstly mandatory english profiency test. If cmi then have to take lesson. If awol then go db. Just like ippt

Andy, [28/1/2026 4:43 pm]

Hahaha

Adam, [28/1/2026 4:43 pm]

If we can afford instructor to eyepower us do ippt. We can have en classes for those that cant speak it

Andy, [28/1/2026 4:43 pm]

Ippt never go db la.. just pay $100 fine ๐Ÿ˜‚

Andy, [28/1/2026 4:44 pm]

I think many times they know how to speak but choose not to. We should tag a voice recorder and make sure they hit their daily speech quota

Adam, [28/1/2026 4:45 pm]

Tbh doing daily study, even small is how people learn language

Andy, [28/1/2026 4:49 pm]

By the way I am joking about the voice recorder.. haha ๐Ÿ˜‚

Adam, [28/1/2026 4:50 pm]

But another thing i wanna bring up is enforcement of laws. Singapore is known for strict laws but i feel enforcement is getting very lax. I see people doing selfish behavior from pmds to littering.

Singaporeans are probably too kind or too apathetic. Our rule of law is only as strong as its enforcement. Immoral people will try to get away with things. If we dont step up enforcement, our morals as a society will deteriorate

Adam, [28/1/2026 4:51 pm]

Btw do you guys see more litter these days? Rats too

Andy, [28/1/2026 4:52 pm]

Have, rats and rodents, even right beside chinatown mrt in the rubbish area. People anyhow throw and nobody clear

Adam, [28/1/2026 4:52 pm]

Last month i saw garbage strewn on the void deck. The wind blew a untied rubbish bag and scattered the contents. I think its one of the effects of the plastic bag fee

Andy, [28/1/2026 4:53 pm]

Must enforce. those errant PMD especially

Daniel, [28/1/2026 4:55 pm]

This I also observe. People too lazy to call town council to remove bulky items or carry it to the bin centre, so they just dump it at the void deck. Same with recycling bins, full of rubbish and overflowing. There should be more enforcement for these kind of things.

Nicholas, [28/1/2026 5:30 pm]

Considering Singapore is a small country, immigration numbers should be tightly managed, otherwise it will get more crowded everywhere. It is already very crowded in Singapore. Perhaps applying the COE concept that controls vehicle growth to immigration might work?

Nicholas, [28/1/2026 5:33 pm]

Also don't quite understand the results of the two polls above, majority (over 50%) says immigration is crucial for Singapore's economy, yet majority also says they are uncomfortable with pace of growth of foreigners here - why the misalignment?

Zackermax, [28/1/2026 5:48 pm]

Drinking water is crucial for sustaining life, yet I am not comfortable with drowning. There is no misalignment.

Khai Mun L., [28/1/2026 5:53 pm]

Morals not limited to foreigners. The recent 'crazy' or rude people are Singaporeans. Covid lady, spitting water on train, release captured crows, throw items from high floors

Khai Mun L., [28/1/2026 5:56 pm]

I agree that enforcement getting lax. Not sure is due to not enough manpower available to do the tiring, sometimes dangerous role.

Or that the culprits make too much noise- complain to MP, proclaim innocence etc, that the authorities waive off the fines

G, [28/1/2026 5:57 pm]

This kind of posture cheapens citizenship

G, [28/1/2026 5:58 pm]

This kind of posture erodes the national identity that the 1G PAP spent so much resources to build

Khai Mun L., [28/1/2026 5:59 pm]

Or claim they have mental disability..

REACH Singapore, [28/1/2026 6:04 pm]

๐Ÿ“ข Topic ๐Ÿ“ข

G, [28/1/2026 6:04 pm]

This kind of posture reveals to us that the PAP govt has moved away from putting Singaporeans first.

Asking Singaporeans to adapt to immigrants rather than the other way around shows Singaporeans are positioned lower than foreigners in PAP's priorities list

And they have muddied the waters for years by using terms like "Singapore residents" so that it has become more and more difficult to distinguish Singaporeans and foreigners statistics right in our own country

G, [28/1/2026 6:07 pm]

All the efforts that our fore fathers put in to work with 1G PAP to build national identity all thrown aside for "we first"

They gave up their dialects for mandarin and English 

Their children listened to 1G PAP and limited their offspring to 2

And foreigners who come in to stay now are not required to have English proficiency

G, [28/1/2026 6:15 pm]

"... want to become part of this bigger fraternity," he added.

Eh. This is not some uni frat club eh. This is Singapore. Not some clubhouse that for you to suka suka let who you like in, and ostracise those who you don't like

Jun Ming, [28/1/2026 6:24 pm]

If we are as big as America or china in terms of size maybe I will allow this rate of people to come in but no sg is just a tiny red dot

G, [28/1/2026 6:26 pm]

As long as national identity is strengthened, not eroded, and put citizens first, most people won't mind immigration

G, [28/1/2026 6:43 pm]

What about foreigners who just come here to park their money, set up "family offices"?  

There's little incentive for them to sink roots and integrate into Singapore society.

There was a dramatic surge in "family offices" set up between 2019 (approx 200) and 2025 (over 2000)

And some of these bring in money from questionable sources.. a number of these were implicated or involved in money laundering activities

It really feels like this 4G PAP govt has sold Singapore out to foreigners

REACH Singapore, [28/1/2026 6:45 pm]

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