Tuesday, September 8, 2026

Comments on upward revisions of Ministers' salaries

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Increase in Minister salaries.

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No perks outside salaries.


@Babe:LCL Danny 心 (1st HP):

1. We shouldn't shortchange anyone - be it workers, civil servants or Ministers. We should pay market values.

2. This will get the right talents for the right jobs.

Because getting Ministers is actually competing with the private sectors and civil service for the top talents.

Shortchanging salaries must not be deterrence from getting the right talents to be our Ministers that will fight to secure our future.

3. Because Singapore is such a small Country with no natural resources. Getting the top talents to run the Country - will ensure Singapore future will be with a safe pair of hands.

4. For 4 consecutive years, Singapore governance have been ranked the best in the World. This is the testimony we are on the right track - pay what is worth, what is the market values to attract the right talents for the Minister jobs to secure Singapore future.

Source:- Google Gemini AI

Singapore ranks at the very top of the Chandler Good Government Index (CGGI) for four consecutive years, holding the number one global spot through 2026

Governance Ranking DetailsGlobal Position: Ranked first out of 133 evaluated countries

Pillars: Placed first globally in five out of seven categories:

- Leadership & Foresight

- Strong Institutions

- Financial Stewardship

- Attractive Marketplace

- Helping People Rise

5. KPI for Ministers is based on four socio-economic indicators weighted equally:-

a. The real median income growth rate of the average Singaporean,

b. the real income growth rate of the lowest 20th percentile of Singaporean income earners,

c. the unemployment rate of Singaporeans; and

d. the real gross domestic product (GDP) growth rate.

These are KPI that directly benefit each and every Singaporeans and residents.

Why should Singaporeans not support the Minister's salaries revision that directly benefit every Singaporeans?

6. These are objective KPI that are quantifiable, measurable that only when the targets are met - will be given the revised salaries as defined in the framework.

7. No additional perks - no hanky panky other than the published revised salaries. Hence possibility of corruption is greatly reduced within the political appointees.


@Babe:8. Looking afar, we have one Head of State that refuse to accept any salary for its job to appeal to voters to vote him in - aloft in civil spiritedness, but mess up big in domestic economy, mess up global affairs, turn allies into adversaries etc.

Eventually, secretly he setup shady crypto currencies, shady business to earn billions from unsuspecting investors exploiting his position as the Head of State.

It is precisely such candidates that Singapore cannot afford to get as Ministers to helm the most important office in the Country

It looks noble, but is a bait that will plunge Singapore success, peace and prosperity into abyss.

9. It doesn't make sense that senior civil servants, Perm Sec salaries exceed Miinisters salaries where political Ministers are their boss and held more responsibilites on the Ministries they helm.

This is karmaically not correct - and hence must be rectified.

10. CEOs, bankers, top professionals are fetching way above the million $ that our Ministers are fetching, just to name a few :-

Highest-Paid Top Executives

UOB (United Overseas Bank): CEO Wee Ee Cheong led top corporate pay lists with around S$15.9 million.

DBS: Former CEO Piyush Gupta previously drew S$17.6 million, while successor Tan Su Shan pulled in a package of S$9.6 million in her first year leading the bank.

Singapore Airlines (SIA): CEO Goh Choon Phong received nearly S$9.7 million for the financial year, backed by record airline revenues.

Singtel: CEO Kuan Moon Yuen received a package totaling S$6.8 million

These CEOs responsibilities are only the profit and loss for their respective companies they helm.

Ministers' responsibilities go far beyond these - Economic growth, secure jobs for the population, ensure their income rises, better living standard, peaceful environment, safety, security, better health, better welfare, matter of live and death etc.

And Ministers' salaries are fractions of those top CEOs' pay - already a big discount for Ministers' remuneration.


@Babe:Hence I support Ministers salaries revision - to ensure salaries are not deterrent to attract the top talents to be the Ministers that will help to secure Singapore future, as well as each and every Singaporeans' future.


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After note:-


In his speech, Mr Wong said that the prime minister’s salary is set at twice the MR4 benchmark. This means that Mr Wong earns a total annual salary norm of S$3.6 million including bonuses, up from S$2.2 million presently.             

“I have decided that, for the next five years – assuming I remain PM – I will donate the full increase in my salary arising from this adjustment,” he said.

He will continue to receive his salary as provided for under the framework, and will then “donate the increase to suitable good causes”, said Mr Wong.

“This is my own decision. I do not expect other office holders to do the same. As a general rule, I do not believe in making a public show of charitable giving."

Mr Wong said that, as prime minister, he carries the “ultimate responsibility” for the salary framework, and so “it is right that Singaporeans should know what I have decided, and that I am taking these changes forward because I believe they are in Singapore’s interests”.


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"Higher political salaries give 'better chance' of persuading capable Singaporeans to step forward: PM Wong.

Prime Minister Lawrence Wong says he had personally approached several senior permanent secretaries and private-sector CEOs to join politics before the last General Election – and all of them turned him down."

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/minister-salaries-review-lawrence-wong-6368526#:~:text=Higher%20political%20salaries,turned%20him%20down.


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No pay rise for 15 years in a job - minister pay.


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Tighter National Bonus targets raise bar in areas that matter to S’poreans: Analysts | The Straits Times 

Higher Minister salaries tie to these KPI that directly benefits us is a good thing for all Singaporeans.

So the higher the Minister salaries - the better for us - because this means their KPI have been met - and we are better of.

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Minister Chan Chun Sing:-

Minister salaries Parliament debate.



@Babe:KPI for Ministers is based on four socio-economic indicators weighted equally:-

a. The real median income growth rate of the average Singaporean,

b. the real income growth rate of the lowest 20th percentile of Singaporean income earners,

c. the unemployment rate of Singaporeans; and

d. the real gross domestic product (GDP) growth rate.

These are KPI that directly benefit each and every Singaporeans and residents.

Why should Singaporeans not support the Minister's salaries revision that directly benefit every Singaporeans?


@Babe:1. Paying high salaries for top talents to be our Ministers has make Singapore successful and secure Singapore future for many decades. This have been Singapore governance success formula - a testimony verified by our top ranking as the best governance in the world year after year.

2. We must bite the bullet and continue with this path and not succumb to public pressure who pretend to be noble and lofty devoid of pragmatism - that big sacrifice will bring in good talents - which is a big bullshit.


@Babe:1. Let us not let public pressure ruin the Singapore successful system.

2. Which in turn will turn back to bring everyone down if we give in to the public pressure - because many are very shortsighted fuel by their innate sour grape syndrome.

3. They can't see it now, only when crisis hit, will they realize - but then it will be too late.

4. Just look at a Superpower ignorance taken in by a head of state that refuse salary - it has become a voter regret.

5. Singapore must not follow the same footstep.


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@Babe:You are right.

@Babe:At least found one youth that talk sense.

Youth views on Minister salaries.


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International comparison of Ministers' salaries could be misleading.

As other countries have pension, allowances, housing, perks etc.

Also, other countries have State government, Federal government to share responsibilities and work.

Singapore government do everything.


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Private CEOs salaries way exceed PM salary.


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Civil service don't enjoy salary increase when they become minister.

In fact, it could be a pay cut.

Some top civil servants earn more than minister.


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@Babe:1. Every system or policy that needs to be implemented - it must encompass these important ingredient:-

Win-Win formula.

2. This is a natural law - the Universal Law of Karma - to ensure the outcomes will achieve equilibrium.

3. Deviation from this formula:-

Lose-Win, Win-Lose implementation of a system or policy - will upset the equilibrium and invoke the natural law of karma to kick in to restore the equilibrium - leading to unintended and even serious consequences.

4. To illustrate, lose-win implementation:-

- pay little for minister, expect minister to make big personal sacrifice - which talents that perform well outside will come in to suffer and bleed that will not only impact himself or herself but also their family members?

This is a nonsensical reasoning - as put forward by many public netizens here.

Pay peanuts, you get monkeys - and incompetent, undesirable elements will come in to take over the ministerial role - make a big mess - and Singapore will be doom.

This is a Lose-Win outcome.

End up - Lose-Lose - all lose.

Equal miseries.

5. To illustrate the other end of the scenario, Win-Lose outcome:-

Minister pay increases - but no corresponding benefits to uplift the people they serve.

End up, Government will lose election, people worst off.

This is a Win-Lose outcome.

End up - Lose-Lose - all lose.

Equal miseries.

6. Hence, the best system of equilibrium is a Win-Win outcome.

Minister (talent) received the rightful pay - and help to uplift the well beings of the people they govern.

The tying of KPI to Minister pay rise - is the appropriate attempt to achieve this.

Uplift the median income of all people, uplift the lower 20 percentile, achieve targeted GDP growth and reduce the unemployment rate of local workers.

7. Singapore Government must not succumb and bent on this very critical principle - to pay the right due for the right role.

8. Because Singapore success, is to a very large extent due to the good and capable leadership of the Government that have brought Singapore so far to what we are now - to envy of the World.

@Babe:9. Singapore must not let the ignorant, petty and shortsighted public pressure - derail our successful formula in bringing competent, capable, talented, honest and committed people to become our Ministers - and secure our future and our future descendants future.

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@Babe:1. Why do many netizens here fail to see such insights that will boomerang and hit them back ?

a. All humans have 5 unwholesome roots (贪嗔痴慢疑) - Ignorance (fail to see the big picture, shortsightedness) because of selfish, self-centered, pettiness (if I can't earn as much, you shouldn't get so much).

b. Greed, jealousy, envy - why Ministers earn so much, whereas I can't - must pull them down, don't care - even though one day, it will also pull yourself down in equal miseries.

c. Hatred - ignorance and greed turn into anger and hatred - indulge in destructive acts.

d. Arrogance - Ministers not as good, I can do better. Are you sure you know better?

e. Distrust, mistrust - not able to appreciate this successful formula that have served us well - and want to pull it down - which in turn will come back to haunt you and pull yourself and everyone down.

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@Babe:1. I cannot deny that there are some very rare individuals who are:-

a. Capable

b. Competent

c. No family members to feed

d. Willing to sacrifice themselves until they bleed to do public service.

e. And willing to go with lower pay but make big sacrifices until they bleed for public service.

But this will invoke disequilibrium in the natural law - and will trigger Universal Law of Karma to kick in.

The whole nation will owe our well beings to his altruistic sacrifice - and indebted to him - and the whole Nation will have to repay his debt life after life - until he is fully compensated in this:-

Lose-Win formula.

Because it breaches the equilibrium of natural law of Win-Win system.

万法皆空。

因果不空。

Hence the right system of Win-Win need to be put in place - and not let ignorant public pressure upset the natural law of equilibrium.


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PM Lawrence Wong tapping Tan See Leng leg in Parliament on Minister salaries.

Good job.


@Babe:[11/09, 12:17 am] My close friend comments: Incompetent, no political will to do the right things, self interests, broken gov, corruption are hindrances to good and bigger things

[11/09, 12:17 am] My comments: That's the fear.

Minister pay hit right at the heart of Singapore success.

But many netizens don't understand - but harp on the high pay.

Overwhelming majority in TikTok disagree with minister high pay.

I am only the few minority that try to convey the criticality of getting the issue right.

Else everyone will be in deep shit years down the road.

Trump is a template for everyone to see.

[11/09, 12:17 am] My close friend comments:- We are blessed, but once broken, we will be like our neighbours

[11/09, 12:17 am] My comments: Yes.

This is my greatest fear.

[11/09, 12:17 am] My close friend comments:- Such high pay is an incentive for ordinary man in the street. So we may attract the wrong people to stand for election. Yes, voters need to be wise but what if there were no good candidates to choose from? The top notch people cannot be lowly paid, yet still have to stand up to scrutiny, and face public nonsensical criticisms.

[11/09, 12:17 am] My comment: Yes to many common man in the street, the million dollars sounds a lot.

But at this current market value, private sector many professions go way past it.

Top talents will consider current minister pay as peanuts.

[11/09, 12:17 am] My close friend comments: For me, I rather choose a capable minister and him to do a good job than pay an average or even lousy person who makes wrong decisions, waste public funds, erode economy or worse corrupted person. Like that, we pay even a higher price

[11/09, 12:17 am] My comments: Yes.

Pay more and get good quality people to be minister will benefit everyone.

Pay peanuts - we will get monkeys - and then we all dead.

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@Babe:Singapore success hinge largely on our top Government capable, committed and honest leadership.

There is a need to pay top money to compete with private sectors and civil service to get top talents to be our Ministers - so that Singaporeans future can be safeguarded.

Singaporeans cannot afford to be penny wise but pound foolish.

Paying Ministers their worth is a small money considering the benefits Singaporeans reap from their contributions.


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@Babe:Singapore what private sector pay can match minister pay

No realistic level of ministerial salary in Singapore can fully match the multi-million dollar packages earned by top corporate executives, investment bankers, and C-suite leaders in the private sector.

The Private vs. Public Pay Gap

Ministerial Benchmarks: An entry-level (MR4) minister's reference benchmark is set at S$1.8 million annually (with actual active pay rising toward S$1.2 million to S$1.35 million following recent adjustments), while a Prime Minister's salary scales higher.

Private Sector Equivalents: Top executives, managing directors, and group CEOs at major local and multinational firms (such as major banks, SGX-listed corporations, or global healthcare groups) routinely command packages ranging from several millions to over S$10 million a year. For instance, cabinet members who transitioned from the private sector have openly noted that their government pay represents a massive financial pay cut.

Why the Gap ExistsThe 40% Discount: Singapore's political salary framework benchmarks entry-level ministers to the median income of the top 1,000 Singapore citizen earners, but applies a deliberate 40% discount.

Public Service Ethos: This discount is intentionally applied to signal a sacrifice and emphasize public service ethos over commercial enrichment.

Not Meant to Match: According to the government and The Straits Times analysts, the salary framework is not designed to match private-sector compensation. Instead, it aims to reduce the financial opportunity cost enough so that top talent from the private or public sectors is not completely deterred from entering political life.


@Babe:Tan, who took on the role of CEO at DBS last year, received a total compensation package of S$9.64 million for 2025, covering both her first nine months at the helm and the period she served as deputy CEO earlier in the year. Meanwhile, the reference annual salary for a starting-grade minister at the MR4 grade will be raised to S$1.8 million, up from S$1.1 million.

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Foreign observers feel that Singaporeans Ministers high pay is justified.


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Salary of principal vs cleaner.

Salary of Minister vs workers.

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Nigam tong dow on million dollars salary.


@Babe:1. Will you want to be responsible if top talents refuse to serve as Ministers?

2. Instead mediocre people clamour for the Minister posts?

3. As a result, Singapore fall from grace and become a 3rd World country?

4. Are you implying Mr LKY and the PAP he build is wrong about commensurating talents with the corresponding pay?

5. And China prosper because China learn from Singapore many policies and ideologies.


@Babe:16,000 China government officials learn from Singapore every year.


@Babe:China has sent tens of thousands of government officials to Singapore for training and study programs since the early 1990s as part of a deliberate effort to learn about public administration and urban governance.

Background and Evolution

The Origin: The initiative began in 1992 after Chinese leader Deng Xiaoping urged the country to study Singapore’s rapid economic growth and social management.

Scale: Nearly 50,000 Chinese civil servants and officials have participated in various governance and leadership programs in Singapore through institutions like the Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy at NUS and NTU.

Core Focus Areas: Early training focused heavily on urban planning, anti-corruption frameworks, housing policies, and state-owned enterprise management.

Shifting Dynamics: In recent years, the focus has broadened toward finance, banking, tourism, and bilateral cooperation models such as the Suzhou Industrial Park, though the exchange is increasingly mutual as China advances in tech and digital infrastructure.


@Babe:For 4 consecutive years, Singapore governance have been ranked the best in the World. This is the testimony we are on the right track - pay what is worth, what is the market values to attract the right talents for the Minister jobs to secure Singapore future.

Source:- Google Gemini AI

Singapore ranks at the very top of the Chandler Good Government Index (CGGI) for four consecutive years, holding the number one global spot through 2026

Governance Ranking DetailsGlobal Position: Ranked first out of 133 evaluated countries

Pillars: Placed first globally in five out of seven categories:

- Leadership & Foresight

- Strong Institutions

- Financial Stewardship

- Attractive Marketplace

- Helping People Rise


@Babe:1. Honestly, mid level executive already fetching and exceed the MPs allowances.

2. Many mid size CEOs salaries also match or exceeded Minister million Dollars salaries.

3. You want lesser calibre or lesser talents to run Singapore and govern you and Singaporeans?

4. Are you willing to put yourself and your descendants life, livelihoods, safety and security at the hands of more mediocre and average Ministers to govern and run the country to the ground?


@Babe:If you shortchanged Minister pay - you could have shortchanged Singaporeans future.

And everyone will go down in equal miseries.


@Babe:It sounds noble to accept low pay.

But it is not pragmatic.

Do it wrong, everything fall apart.


@Babe:违背 道,违背 法,违背 自然法则。

物极必反。


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[12/09, 10:02 am] My close friend comments: That's was in the 90s. When gov was talking about $1B investible cpf. 20-30 years later, million dollar is not so glaring. People can sue dbs for $1+B. CEOs are running hundreds of billion businesses. Times have changed. What hasn't or change little are people at the bottom rungs and people who are forever against gov policies no matter what


[12/09, 10:32 am] My commens: Yes.

I was appalled that a heavyweight ex Permanent Secretary openly say something in TikTok that directly adversely hit at the core of our political leadership - that will threatened our very future and our descendants future.

I have no choice but to challenge his viewpoint.

I want him to prove me wrong in social media - because he is lending weight to the public pressure that has been building up.

Luckily WP, the opposite ends of the aisle support the government position and make the Parliament debate with less fireworks.

But the biggest fireworks is at the social media bring on by public pressure.

Hence I have to defeat public pressure right in TikTok.


[12/09, 10:48 am] My comments: This TikTok media influencer also bring up Xi Jing Ping's words on communism that a political minister must not fetch high salaries - else 不要当官。

This video creator put 2 powerful figures - one ex heavyweight Permanent Secretary and one superpower President to lend weight against high minister salaries - will be a very strong sway to support the public pressure.

I have to hold the bull by the horns.

1. China public service policy and economic policy learn from Singapore - before China make such a massive economic and social improvement.

 
2. To be blunt we are the Teacher and the other end is a student - who has a better philosophy?


3. Singapore rank the best governance in the World Chandler governance ranking - a testimony that our government is top notch.


4. Year after year, we don't have to 清算 corrupt senior leaders in the cabinet unlike others - because our system of transparent high minister salaries dispense with the need to look for other perks to keep their livelihoods and family members livelihoods afloat.


5. And our win-win system is supported by the divine natural law of karma - as testimony of 道教 and 佛教。


6. Not a Lose-Win formula that sacrifice and bleed one side to make the other side win at minister expense - which is karmically wrong. Karma will be triggered and take effects.

I want both heavyweight figures to overturn my viewpoints and prove me wrong in TikTok.

Else our political leadership of high minister salaries is correct - and don't challenge our philosophy.

This will effectively defeat public pressure brought on by TikTok and other social media.

Then my Bodhi Vows salvation - will be meaningful.


@Babe:Singapore's success or failure hinges on this very core principle.

I must not let public pressure break this principle - and make Singapore successful story collapse.

Unless someone can prove me wrong.


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[12/09, 12:10 pm] My close friend comments: He passed on many years ago. Some people just lifted it out of context such as timeline to speak against gov.

[12/09, 12:11 pm] My comments: Oh is it?

I thought he is around and put up his view on TikTok.

[12/09, 12:11 pm] My close friend comments: Furthermore got to be careful, could be fake AI generated stuff too. 半真半假。

[12/09, 12:12 pm] My comments: I see....

That's why I thought why he so bold to oppose the government - and his views are flaw.

[12/09, 12:13 pm] My close friend comments:- After he retired, he did say several eye opening stuff ... Brave man. But this is definitely not current

[12/09, 12:15 pm] My comments: Hmmm....

That's why we must always debate using the right logic and right principles.

We don't care who say it.

Sometimes even LKY may not be right when circumstances change.


[12/09, 1:26 pm] My close friend comments: I asked google. Late Ngiam died in 2020... Good man. I remembered in his interview with Straits times he went to buy gold. No contract. The contract was to tear a $100 note into half and each party keep half portion. Sounds like he was secretly buying gold from unofficial source 😊

He could be scammed, robbed, killed and dumped..

[12/09, 1:29 pm] My comments: Oh I see.

He is the one that anchor gold for us.

Ok lah, he has been a good PS since I know him.

Only surprise by what he says in minister salaries.

This issue cannot go unchallenged.

Because it hinge on ours and our descendants future lives and livelihoods.

Must robustly defend it.

[12/09, 1:30 pm] My comments: Yes.

All our forefather leaders risk their lives to secure our future.

They are honorable.

[12/09, 2:08 pm] My close friend comments: But can't say for this and future leaders. Raising salary is just one aspect not to over penalise good leaders

[12/09, 2:27 pm] My comments: Yes.

Right Salary is only one dimension.

Don't want to let this dimension make the sacrifice so painful and onerous that good and right talents straight away reject on the outset.

Because they and their family members cannot live well despite the outsize contribution to our Nation building.


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Saturday, September 5, 2026

Nasty racist remarks about Nepal and Air India - Police stepping in

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@Babe:Glad that police are investigating nasty racist remarks that threaten our racial harmony.


@Babe:Inciting racial hatred or discord is illegal in Singapore, and authorities enforce strict penalties to protect public safety and social stability as outlined by the Ministry of Home Affairs.

The Legal Framework

Penal Code: Section 298A makes it a crime to promote enmity between different groups on the grounds of race or do acts prejudicial to the maintenance of harmony. Offenders can face up to three years in prison and fines.

New Laws: Singapore introduced the Maintenance of Racial Harmony Bill to strengthen government powers. It adds measures like restraining orders and community remedial actions instead of just court punishments

Source:- Google Gemini AI


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Safeguard our multi racial society.


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Comments on WP Kenneth Tiong Air India post.

1. Government and politicians should not comment on commercial decisions that will be color by political considerations. It should be left to the shareholders of SIA.

2. Temasek don't make cheque to Air India - it is SIA.

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None of politicians business to interfere in commercial decisions by SIA.


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Commerical decision turn racism.


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WP Kenneth Tiong political intervention turn into racism.


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Kenneth Tiong has no experience in running an airline, but want to interfere into SIA commercial decisions.


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Good insight why SIA want to fund Air India.


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WP Kenneth Tiong giving fuel to the racist followers.


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Other comments:-


@mrlorenzomatterhorn:The racist remarks during the Nepal flood discussion were unacceptable, but the Government cannot keep pretending that the growing anger and resentment appeared out of nowhere. For years, Singaporeans have raised concerns about CECA, immigration, foreign manpower, job competition and whether citizens are truly being prioritised, only to feel that their concerns are dismissed, lectured away or conveniently branded as xenophobia. That is a serious failure of political leadership. When legitimate grievances are repeatedly brushed aside instead of confronted openly, frustration festers, trust collapses and eventually some people lash out in ugly and unacceptable ways. Racists must be responsible for their own words, but the Government must also answer for creating an environment in which public frustration has been allowed to reach boiling point. You cannot suppress a difficult debate for years and then act shocked when anger explodes. Condemning racism is easy; addressing the policies, anxieties and loss of trust feeding the anger requires political courage. On that, the Government has failed badly.


@Fakir:Notice how this argument hasn't lifted a finger to mention who actually makes up the largest group of foreign workers in Singapore? If this outcry were truly about job competition, the focus would be on Malaysians, particularly ethnic Chinese, who form the overwhelming majority of the cross-border workforce.Instead, the focus is hyper-fixated exclusively on CECA and the Indian community. Leaving out the biggest demographic piece of the puzzle shows exactly what this narrative is trying to do—it isn't a genuine concern about local jobs, but a targeted attempt to stir up resentment against one specific group. An "honest debate" cannot be claimed while deliberately hiding the most important facts. And yes the government has failed for not highlighting the actual data of who has been stealing your lunch.


@mrlorenzomatterhorn:This is an embarrassingly crude rebuttal that confuses raw headcount with economic impact. Nobody needs a calculator to know there are huge numbers of Malaysians and other foreigners working here; that was never the argument. The CECA controversy is specifically about competition for scarce, well-paid PMET positions, hiring practices, intra-company transfers and the perception that foreign professional networks can reproduce themselves while qualified Singaporeans struggle to break in. So shouting “but there are more Malaysians!” is about as intelligent as saying there are more cleaners than CEOs, therefore cleaners have greater influence over the corporate labour market. And dragging racism into every criticism is the ultimate intellectual escape hatch: when you cannot rebut concerns about jobs, fairness and enforcement, accuse the critics of xenophobia and hope moral outrage substitutes for evidence. Singaporeans don’t need lectures or statistical smoke screens; they deserve evidence that hiring is genuinely meritocratic and citizens are not being systematically disadvantaged. 😂😂😂😁😁😁


@Fakir:To claim this is a simple mix-up between raw headcount and high-level economic impact completely misses the mark, as the comparison to "cleaners versus CEOs" simply does not hold water [MTI]. It assumes the massive Malaysian workforce consists only of low-wage labour, when in reality, thousands of professionals crossing the causeway every day occupy highly paid, corporate PMET positions and establish vast professional networks [MTI]. Curiously, not a single finger is lifted to protest against them, nor is there any public anxiety directed at these regional groups reproducing their own corporate networks. By hyper-fixating relentlessly on the Comprehensive Economic Cooperation Agreement (CECA) and the Indian minority while turning a completely blind eye to a much larger influx of corporate talent, this narrative betrays its true nature [MTI]. When an economic argument relies entirely on selective panic over one specific community, it stops being a genuine crusade for meritocracy or local jobs—it becomes a textbook case of targeted hostility disguised as economic anxiety.


@mrlorenzomatterhorn:What a wonderfully convenient argument: because Malaysians also hold PMET jobs, apparently nobody is allowed to question CECA-related hiring patterns without being branded a xenophobe. That is not serious reasoning; it is whataboutism dressed up as moral superiority. If Malaysians, Indians or any other nationality form closed hiring networks, practise discriminatory recruitment or disproportionately crowd Singaporeans out of particular sectors, scrutinise them all. The nationality is irrelevant; the principle is the same. And the irony is spectacular: Singapore’s own COMPASS framework explicitly considers nationality diversity in firms’ PMET workforces, so apparently examining workforce concentration is legitimate when MOM does it but suddenly becomes “targeted hostility” when Singaporeans ask uncomfortable questions. Stop weaponising accusations of racism to dodge the substantive issue. “But Malaysians!” is not a rebuttal to concerns about CECA or hiring practices; it is a giant flashing sign saying you cannot answer them. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂


@Fakir:To weaponise the COMPASS framework as a defence of this narrative is a spectacular own goal, because the system explicitly invalidates the fixated grievance. If the concern were genuinely about objective policy frameworks like MOM’s COMPASS criteria—which systematically penalises any firm where a single foreign nationality exceeds 25% of the PMET workforce by awarding zero points [MOM]—the public outcry would be applied evenly across the board. Instead, while foreign employment passes require strict, age-progressive minimums like S$5,600 to S$6,200 to match top local earners [Singapore EDB], the total absence of public scrutiny directed at the massive, concentrated regional PMET demographic proves this isn't a principled stand on workforce concentration. It is textbook whataboutism used to camouflage selective hostility against the Indian minority. Conflating state-enforced, data-driven diversity regulation with targeted online vitriol doesn't make the argument intellectual—it simply confirms that policy jargon is being used as a shield to excuse a blatant double standard.


@mrlorenzomatterhorn:Why you keep repeating same thing 😂😂😂😂😅😅😅🤣🤣🤣🤣


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Source:- Google Gemini AI 


An estimated 1.13 million to 1.18 million Malaysians live and work in Singapore, while Indian nationals account for roughly 44,000 to 50,000 skilled professional Employment Pass (EP) holders. 

  • roughly 350,000 to 400,000+) of Malaysians in Singapore fill skilled and PMET-equivalent roles.

@Babe:Malaysians are 10 times more in PMETs jobs compare to Ceca PMETs.
Debate, debate with facts - not with brute force colored by race.

@Babe:Misrepresentations of Ceca have caused unnecessary public concern: PM Lee | The Straits Times
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@Babe:1. There is a need to unmask those people that make nasty racist comments in the social media.

2. Unmask those from Singapore.

3. Unmask those who are Foreigners.

4. Uncover the root cause of racial slur and nip it from the bud.

5. Singapore should not allow racial harmony to be compromised.


@Babe:We do not want to see the 1960s racial riot coming back into Singapore.

I think is time for MHA to act and unmask those people - Locals and Foreigners stirring up racial disharmony in Singapore.


@Babe:Taken aback to see those nasty comments when family members are in distress worrying about the whereabout of their loved ones.

The comments are not only insensitive and inappropriate, it is down right cruel and devoid of compassion - cannot imagine those words come from fellow human beings mouth when peer beings are in danger and in distress.


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Exact comments by WP Kenneth Tiong on SIA investment in Air India.

  • On Temasek and SIA: "I will not support, nor expect, any future use of Temasek's funds to prop up Air India via Singapore Airlines. If Singapore Airlines wants to continue its bet on Air India, it should do so on its own two feet, and not on Temasek's."
  • On Financial Impact: "Whichever of the two writes the cheque, it will have a significant impact on Temasek."
  • On the Airline: "No one, least of all Singaporeans, owes Air India a living." 

@Babe: Kenneth Tiong is not asking a legitimate question about SIA investment in Air India.
He is directly interfering into the commercial decisions by SIA even though he has no experience in airline business.

Temasek and GIC investment in India and the rest of the world are making very good profit.

Source:- Google Gemini AI 
@Babe:Temasek's investments in India have been highly profitable, ranking as the Singapore state investor's best-performing market globally over the past decade.
Portfolio and PerformanceTop Market: India is Temasek's top-performing geographic market on a 10-year basis.
Portfolio Size: India accounts for about 7% of Temasek's global portfolio, representing an exposure of roughly US$40 billion.
Recent Success: Temasek recently experienced a strong market streak as several portfolio holdings, including Shiprocket, surged following their market debuts.
Capital Deployment: The firm deployed nearly US$9 billion in India over a three-year period and plans to invest up to US$10 billion more.
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@Babe:Kenneth Tiong has no strategic depth in many of the issues he raised in Parliament and outside of Parliament - but spark many serious issues.

WP Kenneth Tiong asked to do his homework about SIA investment in Air India.

PM Lawrence Wong - Legitimate question versus mask prejudice.

@Babe:If we allowed such racist sentiment go unchallenged and not stop at its track, Singapore could go down the path of racial disharmony and our many decades of peace since independence will be shattered.
Hence there is a need to unmask :-
1. Locals that fan the racist sentiment.
2. Foreigners that fan racist sentiment, and activate diplomatic channels to catch those culprits.
We must never let this racists destroy Singapore peace and prosperity.
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@Babe:1. CECA EP holders will not be able to displace local workers enmass because all companies are subjected to MOM COMPASS guidelines that restrict how many foreigners can be employed by a company and the majority must be local workers.
2. Immigration policy also maintain the population racial ratios.
Hence not possible for any racial community upsetting Singapore population ratios since independence.
3. There is no basis for expressing online racial hatred sentiment that certain races are taking over local jobs enmass.
Such remarks are downright racist aiming to stir negative sentiment and emotion - that will cause hatred and animosity among our different communities - upset our peace, safety and security - hence there is a need to clamp racial hatred sentiment festering in online down - and not let Singapore be destroyed by the minority racial elements - be it the locals or foreigners.

@Babe:Singapore's MOM COMPASS guidelines refer to the Complementarity Assessment Framework introduced by the Ministry of Manpower (MOM) to evaluate Employment Pass (EP) applications through a transparent, points-based system.
Instead of relying only on salary, COMPASS looks at both the individual candidate and the hiring company to build a strong local core while welcoming high-quality foreign professionals.
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@pokefriend17:Let Singaporeans have a referendum see how many percent vote affirmatively to increase Air India investment using SIA or SG funds, SIR !

@Ommit1202:So for every commercial decision, we need a referendum? So free ah?

@Babe:Commerical decision should not be left to people referendum.
You are abusing the political process.

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There must be consequences for those anonymous hateful racist remarks.
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SM Shanmugam very detail explanation if SIA investment in Air India.
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SM Lee - troubling to see racial hatred speeches following Nepal disaster.

@Babe:Singapore Airlines (SIA) invested in Air India to gain direct access to India's massive domestic aviation market and expand its multi-hub strategy.
The Rationale for Investment
No Domestic Market: Singapore is a small city-state with no domestic flights. SIA needs foreign markets to grow.
Huge Growth in India: India is the world's third-largest aviation market with over 1.4 billion people.
Multi-Hub Strategy: SIA uses Air India to capture domestic and international traffic within India, complementing its main hub at Changi Airport.
Vistara Merger: Following the merger of Vistara into Air India in November 2024, SIA holds a 25.1% stake in the enlarged carrier, while Tata Sons owns 74.9%.
Current Challenges
Heavy Losses: Air India has faced severe financial losses, prompting discussions and scrutiny over capital injections.
Long-Term View: Despite financial strain, SIA and backer Temasek remain committed to the turnaround, viewing it as a long-term strategic game.
Read more on CNA Explains regarding why SIA stays invested, or see Ho Ching on Air India investment for additional market context.
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Temasek and GIC profitable investment in India.
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@Babe:
1. Risk assessors should be a professional roles in which they have experienced in the airline business.
2. Does Kenneth Tiong have experience in airline business to perform the risk assessment for airline business?
3. Using Parliament, the political outfit to perform the risk assessment role - in which the airline investments have to undergo rigorous airline business assessment - is a wrong outfit and will give undue pressure to SIA to arrive at a wrong conclusion.
4. Hence Kenneth Tiong suggestion is wrong at all count - to make Parliament to become the risk assessor for a purely commercial decision in airline business in which Parliament may not have the expertise.

@Babe:There are so many considerations and merits that Kenneth Tiong has no experience in airline business such as:-
1. Market potential
2. Air connectivity
3. Hub-to-Hub connectivity
4. Large domestic market
5. Access to all cities that will not be accessible to foreign airlines and landing rights.
6. Code sharing 
etc.
And Kenneth Tiong purely look at the $ and cents and jump to the conclusion that SIA is floundering taxpayers money and stir emotion through social media - putting political clouts to bear on SIA and Temasek.

@Babe:1. Previously, Singtel do invest in Thailand in a couple of telecom business and companies which are deem risky and political problematic.
2. Likewise Singtel also have problematic investment in Australia Optus.
3. Some of our GIC also have initial problematic investment in China Suzhou, Indonesia, Malaysia, Africa etc.
We have no choice because our market is too small and need to access and invest in big overseas market to grow our business and accumulate our wealth.
4. It is through our GLCs foresight that have turn risky and problematic overseas business and companies into a profitable ones in the long haul.
Where there is risk, there is opportunities for us to invest in overseas market (else which countries will want you to come in and eat into their pie?
It is thus the GLCs foresight and commercial decisions that can turn a risky business into opportunities.
5. Else many of our GLCs will not grow to such a scale without overseas penetration that contribute heftily to Temasek funds.
6. If Parliament and politicians without the relevant expertise are to interfere in these GLCs overseas investment - almost all foreign investment is a no go.
7. Our GLCs and Temasek will be much poorer if we do this.
Kenneth Tiong without foresight is now directly interfering into GLCs investment without the relevant expertise in airline business - and using social media to stir up emotion.
I think Parliament should deliver the right discourse to Kenneth Tiong what is good for Singapore and what is harmful to Singapore.

@Babe:1. Basically Kenneth Tiong lack strategic depth, look at things superficially and jump into conclusion quickly.
2. He is good at stirring emotion using his superficial knowledge that appeal to voters but lack depth.
3. The conclusion he arrives at will always make Singapore worst off in the long term.

@Babe:Kenneth Tiong is not asking legitimate question as a responsible MP in the Parliament.
Instead he uses social media to whip up negative emotion and sentiment.
The words he used that are designed to stir emotion and sentiment among Singaporeans:-
"Singaporeans do not owe Air India a living".
The Racial Backlash: Following his post and concurrent discussions surrounding a disaster in Nepal, various online forums saw a rise in nasty, xenophobic, and anti-Indian comments targeting the Indian community and the leadership of Temasek. (Source:- Google Gemini AI).
He directly interferes in SIA commercial decisions through social media even though he has no airline expertise using his political clouts and public pressure as MP whipping up negative sentiment among the public but not asking legitimate questions about risk assessment in Parliament .
The words he used are:-
"He would not support using state-linked funds to "prop up" Air India".

Kenneth Tiong appear conceited and unprofessional during Parliament.

@Babe:1. If Kenneth Tiong raise his concern about risk assessment of Air India investment by SIA in the Parliament file as a question minus all his emotive invoke statement in the social media as a responsible MP, it will not have subsequently trigger public backlash and result in hate speeches and insult against the Indian community (in which he knew that hate speech against Indians on Nepal disaster and association with Ceca is already happening in the background).
2. His actions in social media outside of Parliament had further add salt to the wound.
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@Andrew KEK:Opinion:- I would like to understand the distinction between SIA and NTUC Income.
SIA is a listed commercial company, yet many of its directors and senior leaders have backgrounds in the public service or government-linked organisations. If the Government says it does not control SIA simply because of these connections, then why is NTUC Income treated differently?
Income Insurance is now a public company and is controlled by NTUC Enterprise. If it is considered a private commercial company, why was the Government able to intervene and prevent the proposed Allianz sale?
My question is not whether the Government should protect the social mission of Income. My question is about consistency and corporate independence:
If government-linked individuals serving on a company’s board do not mean the Government controls SIA, then what makes Income Insurance different? And if the Government has the authority to intervene in Income’s ownership because of its history and social mission, shouldn’t this distinction be clearly explained to the public?
I think Singaporeans deserve a clear explanation of where the line is between government influence, shareholder control and regulatory authority.

@Babe:The Singapore government blocked the proposed sale of a majority stake in Income Insurance to German insurer Allianz is due to a massive S$2 billion surplus exemption and the structure of the transaction.
The issue involves public funds and cooperative assets, rather than typical corporate grants. The government blocked the transaction through urgent amendments to the Insurance Act.

@Babe:Other than this caveat, government cannot intervene in a commerical transaction.
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Babe: "SIA's ability to serve Singaporeans not affected by Air India investment: Jeffrey Siow to WP's Kenneth Tiong.
The Workers' Party MP asked if the government would rule out direct support through Temasek if "Air India goes wrong", but Mr Siow said Air India’s losses do not automatically become SIA’s liabilities."

Kenneth Tiong direct intervention in SIA investment commercial decisions.

Singapore Airlines says India investments have been and will remain internally funded.
Air India’s transformation is a “complex, multi-year programme and is not expected to be linear”, SIA says.
Source :- CNA

COMPLEX, MULTI-YEAR PROGRAMME"

SIA said on Tuesday that Air India's transformation is a "complex, multi-year programme" that is "not expected to be linear". 
Challenges cited include the prolonged closure of Pakistani airspace to Indian carriers, the Air India crash last year that killed 260 people, the rupee's depreciation against the US dollar, supply chain disruptions, the loss of a key market due to the Middle East conflict and sustained high fuel prices.

“At the same time, Air India has made tangible progress across customer experience and operational performance,” said the spokesperson.

SIA noted that Air India's net promoter score, which reflects how likely customers are to recommend a brand, has increased by more than 70 points since November 2022.

In May, the carrier received a four-star airline rating from review site Skytrax, while Air India Express was certified as a four-star low-cost airline, “on par with leading international carriers”.

“SIA and Tata Sons have both publicly acknowledged that there is still much work to be done,” said the spokesperson. “Both remain committed to supporting Air India’s long-term transformation programme.”  

The spokesperson said Air India has a strong presence in both the full-service and low-fare segments, and in domestic and international markets, with access to "valuable slots and air traffic rights at key domestic and international airports" that were not available to Vistara.

“Today, the SIA Group is the only non-Indian airline group with a direct stake in this important and fast-growing market,” said the spokesperson, adding that the investment has deepened commercial cooperation between the two carriers and strengthened Singapore and India's complementary roles as aviation hubs.

This has also given Singapore “greater access to India’s vast and fast-growing aviation market, while connecting India more extensively through Singapore to Changi Airport’s global network”.
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"Singapore Airlines to seek tougher terms for any fresh Air India funding, sources say".
Singapore Airlines, backed by Temasek, is expected to seek greater influence over management and stronger governance rights before approving a capital injection into Air India, said two people familiar with the matter.
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Minister reply to Kenneth Tiong interference into SIA investment.

@Draggo StealHeart:LMAO, the WP wayang is unreal 🤡🎭 ignorant never mind but dun be smart Alec…….First that WP clown Tiong lights the racial/xenophobic fire, sit back and enjoy the outrage 🔥, then suddenly play innocent and “distance” himself from the ugly ones once the message has landed. 🙄😂
Obtuse Tiong really thought nobody would notice the playbook. Stir the pot, get the reaction, then pretend to be the peacemaker. 🤡👏 What a performance. 🎭

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@Babe:-
1. Racial slur against the Indian descent in Nepal disaster and Air India investment - has very serious consequences to our Society.

2. It can cause tension among Singapore multi-racial communities.

3. Reminiscing the 1960s racial tension and racial riots, pitting one community against other communities lead to racial riot, communities arming themselves with parang, iron rods and weapons to hack one another on the street - it is a living hell and everyone live in fear.

4. Singapore must not allow such events happen ever again - whereby Singaporeans live in fear and everytime walking on a street have to look behind our shoulders in case people carry weapons or parangs to hack us.

5. So we must never allow the racial hatred that fester online in social media to manifest into real life.

6. Those racial hatred comments must be relentlessly unmask to reveal those anonymous writers be it :-
a. Foreigners attempting to exploit racial divides.
b. Locals who resented the CECA arrangement - blown up by PSP 
To drive larger racial hatred which could later run out of control like in the 1960s racial riot

7. Authority should leave no stone unturned to unmask the online anonymous writers and prosecute under the Racial harmony law design to prevent racial hatred - be it locals or foreigners.
If foreigners are involved, diplomatic channels should be used if possible to nab these foreigners who are trying to drive wedge in our society that could lead to bloodshed - but they escape with no consequences.
Locals who stir racial tensions online should be duly prosecuted via the Racial Harmony Law to drive the message - 杀一儆百。(Punish the small group of instigators to warn the larger mass).

@Babe:Singapore passed the Maintenance of Racial Harmony Act on February 4, 2025, to consolidate legal powers and protect the country's multi-racial social cohesion.
Everyone know this law exist - but online anonymous elements be it Locals and Foreigners choose to exploit racial slur to cause tension within our Community.
There is no excuse to be lenient.

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