REACH (Telegram) 149 - What are your thoughts on the workforce transformation exercise by Govtech?
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16 Jul 2026 (10am - 7pm)
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[16/7/2026 10:01 am] REACH Singapore: 📢 Topic 📢
On 15 Jul (Wednesday), The Government Technology Agency (GovTech) announced that it has completed first phase of a two-year workforce transformation exercise.
The exercise was driven by the need for GovTech to own and run critical government systems in-house, rather than relying solely on vendors.
💬 What are your thoughts on the workforce transformation exercise by Govtech?
📌 Reasons for restructuring
Explaining the need for the changes in GovTech, Govtech Chairman Mr Chng Kai Fong said that critical systems increasingly demanded in-house capabilities so the agency could respond and adjust quickly to national needs.
"Modern technology development requires far more control and agility, especially as the world becomes more digital, and the need for critical government digital infrastructure has grown tremendously”, he said.
“Left unchanged, our legacy systems become harder to secure, harder to change and more vulnerable to failure".
"GovTech needs people who can define the problem, shape the architecture, make sound build-or-buy decisions, defend its systems and improve critical services every day," he added.
Mr Chng emphasised: “Vendors will remain important partners, but accountability for our core systems now sits with us".
📌 Details of Govtech Restructuring
Of the 305 employees affected, 102 will be retained in their current roles, while 110 will be retrained into new roles under apprenticeships.
As for the 93 officers “transitioning out” of GovTech, they will be offered a comprehensive support package, which includes one month’s salary for every year of service capped at 25 years; a three-month ex-gratia payment; and salary and benefits through a six-week handover and notice period.
👉https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/singapore/economy-policy/govtech-retrenches-93-staff-first-phase-agencys-2-year-workforce-transformation
👉 https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/govtech-retrenches-93-staff-7-to-9-of-roles-to-be-affected-by-restructuring-in-next-2-years
👉https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/govtech-retrenchment-jobs-transition-layoffs-6255641
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[16/7/2026 10:22 am] Daniel: I think the reasoning behind the restructuring makes sense, I'd feel safer with the govtec products being owned by govtec than by vendors.
[16/7/2026 10:24 am] 365: They also aren't just leaving the laid off ones to their own devices, at least according to what they claim, they will provide job matching services and career guidance. Assuming true, it isn't that bad.
[16/7/2026 10:24 am] 365: Benefits are also above what most other companies offer, 1 month for each year of sevice + another 3 months
[16/7/2026 10:25 am] Daniel: On the human side retrenchement is always tough (gone through one myself). I'm not a public servant, but the appeal to me of a government job has always been the "iron ricebowl" aspect of having a secure and stable job, even though salary might not be good. This makes it clear that this is not a given any more and makes government jobs a bit less attractive.
[16/7/2026 10:25 am] 365: I don't think salary won't be good, I've always heard from industry peers on how govtech pays pretty well
[16/7/2026 10:26 am] Daniel in reply to 365:
> I don't think salary won't be good,...
Yeah, I meant more of government jobs overall. You are probably right about govtec. But this will affect the image of government jobs overall.
[16/7/2026 10:33 am] Jun Ming in reply to REACH Singapore:
> 📢 Topic 📢 On 15 Jul (Wednesday),...
I tell my friend no more iron rice bowl liao
[16/7/2026 10:34 am] Jun Ming: But make sense to do it internally as I think privacy may leak out
[16/7/2026 10:36 am] Jun Ming: But wouldn't they transfer to another gov agency with internal hire first, for those that is retrenched
[16/7/2026 10:40 am] Jun Ming: With yesterday audit report I am sure a lot of agencies need more manpower to check and ensure smooth operation
[16/7/2026 10:40 am] G in reply to REACH Singapore:
> What are your thoughts on the workforce transformation exercise by Govtech?
Nice twist..
From "retrenchment" as reported by CNA, to become "workforce transformation exercise"
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/govtech-retrenchment-jobs-transition-layoffs-6255641
Will this set a precedent for private companies as they follow the govt lead, and start calling future retrenchments as "workforce transformation" to siam the necessary retrenchment benefits? 😉
"No leh, we didn't retrench anyone! We only did a workforce transformation exercise! Cannot anyhow say retrenchment ok!"
[16/7/2026 10:43 am] Jun Ming: My friend from hdb always complain a lot of job maybe hdb shall hire more manpower
[16/7/2026 10:43 am] G in reply to REACH Singapore:
> 📢 Topic 📢 On 15 Jul (Wednesday),...
1. Does NTUC work with MOM on 2ei and Career Gov posted positions and review them with the hiring coming and compile data on the eventual hire
2. Does NTUC and MOM actively track the eventual hiring for the positions goes to a Singaporean / PR or foreigner work pass application
3. Does NTUC and MOM review interview notes for companies with high work pass application rates vs job postings for instances where a foreigner has been offered a position vs a Singaporean
4. Does NTUC / MOM track retrenched employees and their eventual job offer for matching salaries ranges and relevance and publish this ?
[16/7/2026 10:44 am] 365 in reply to Jun Ming:
> But wouldn't they transfer to another gov agency with internal...
From what was reported, there were many that are transferred to other agencies. This is the remainder, and it's only the first wave.
I'm puzzled by the use of the word 'retrenchment' from their perspective though. If it's stopping outsourcing to vendors, then the redundancy would be on vendor side and not them, and thus not a retrenchment from govtech themselves.
[16/7/2026 11:00 am] REACH Singapore: [ Poll : 1. Govtech’s restructuring will allow it to better respond to the public’s needs. ]
- Strongly agree
- Agree
- Neutral
- Disagree
- Strongly disagree
[16/7/2026 11:00 am] REACH Singapore: [ Poll : 2. The Government has provided sufficient support for Govtech staff affected by the restructuring. ]
- Strongly agree
- Agree
- Neutral
- Disagree
- Strongly disagree
[16/7/2026 11:03 am] REACH Singapore: Dear Contributors,
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💬 What are your thoughts on the workforce transformation exercise by Govtech?
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[16/7/2026 12:57 pm] Jun Ming in reply to 365:
> From what was reported, there were many that are transferred...
I think they are restructuring the department or team such as liasing officer, or admin role. For those technical roles they undergo retraining. Anyone with a .gov.sg email consider under them
[16/7/2026 1:02 pm] 365: Maybe those are the roles, the connectors
[16/7/2026 1:04 pm] Jun Ming: Maybe gov can release what are the roles got affected
[16/7/2026 1:06 pm] 365: I don't think there's any benefit to it, though they mentioned hiring more such as engineers and developers.
[16/7/2026 1:25 pm] RY in reply to REACH Singapore:
> 📢 Topic 📢 On 15 Jul (Wednesday),...
Critical data is better managed in-house rather than thru vendor
SG govt shd learn fm the USA Snowden case ....
In 2013, former NSA contractor Edward Snowden leaked thousands of classified documents to journalists, exposing global mass surveillance programs operated by the U.S. and "Five Eyes" intelligence alliances. The disclosures revealed systemic privacy intrusions, massive corporate data sharing, and the interception of communications belonging to billions of innocent individuals worldwide
[16/7/2026 1:30 pm] RY in reply to REACH Singapore:
> 📢 Topic 📢 On 15 Jul (Wednesday),...
It is impt that Govt shd set a Good Example for any retrenchment exercise by any govt sectors
In term of the retrenchment benefits and helping transition employees and etc
Then people will have confidence if working in govt agencies also
[16/7/2026 1:45 pm] Hanny: Works are going through many transformations nowadays. Every entity, gov and non gov, are affected.
Govtech has done a good job in managing this transformation. This should set an example for other organizations.
We need to get ready for this transformation. If the company does not change, it will lose out at the end.
[16/7/2026 1:59 pm] 365: When comparing retrenchment benefits to the average, it is quite generous. The financial portion is already more than usual, and most other companies just leave you to find your own next step.
[16/7/2026 2:03 pm] REACH Singapore: Dear Contributors,
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💬 What are your thoughts on the workforce transformation exercise by Govtech?
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[16/7/2026 2:51 pm] Hanny: We need Govtech to be more transparent in explaining why it needs to retrench people.
What is it trying to achieve?
If it is too sensitive to share then say so.
[16/7/2026 2:52 pm] Hanny: I don’t believe if AI is not involved
[16/7/2026 2:58 pm] 365: They mentioned it, they are reducing dependence on vendors and want to insource instead. Meaning any roles that are exclusively vendor facing will be redundant.
[16/7/2026 3:02 pm] REACH Singapore: [ Poll : 1. Govtech’s restructuring will allow it to better respond to the public’s needs. ]
- Strongly agree
- Agree
- Neutral
- Disagree
- Strongly disagree
[16/7/2026 3:02 pm] REACH Singapore: [ Poll : 2. The Government has provided sufficient support for Govtech staff affected by the restructuring. ]
- Strongly agree
- Agree
- Neutral
- Disagree
- Strongly disagree
[16/7/2026 3:07 pm] Jun Ming: https://www.instagram.com/p/Da1uUhPiRKA/?igsh=eHQzZTN1dHg1c216
[16/7/2026 3:08 pm] Jun Ming: Entry level job is hard to get and now more retrenchment
[16/7/2026 3:08 pm] Jun Ming: We are so cooked
[16/7/2026 3:09 pm] Jun Ming: I believe those retrenched is more on the entry level job. As they do not have the skill set foundation to be retrain
[16/7/2026 3:10 pm] Jun Ming: Based on current trend we should reduce our population as no point having so many people and yet everyone complain no job
[16/7/2026 3:13 pm] 365: I agree with the sentiment. I believe there is a population equilibrium, and we have gone far past that. Government has been too addicted to using immigration as a recurring economic solution, instead of a last resort.
[16/7/2026 3:13 pm] Adam: We are all living on the assumption that we need a job to survive in singapore. A good one.
However the people who enjoy life in singapore do not need a job. Think retirees who have their nest egg. Billionaires who park their wealth.
[16/7/2026 3:13 pm] Adam: We have to understand, singapore doesnt need people to survive and we need to know our place in society
[16/7/2026 3:13 pm] Adam: Just like how we view foreign construction workers. Or maids
[16/7/2026 3:14 pm] Adam: We too will devolve into the lower rungs of society. The working class in the underbelly of this nation. To serve the elites
[16/7/2026 3:14 pm] 365: We are 2 decades past planning a system that can attract capital, but doesn't have to pander to them at our expense.
[16/7/2026 3:14 pm] Adam: The country doesnt need people. It needs assets. And people arent good assets
[16/7/2026 3:16 pm] Adam: Immigration benefits singapore greatly. By reducing the value of humans, businesses are able to profit by setting up here more
[16/7/2026 3:18 pm] 365: And that reliance will eventually consume upon itself. Land is limited, and is a hard limit for immigration.
[16/7/2026 3:18 pm] 365: Even if we were to disregard the well being of citizens, this isn't sustainable for the country for decades to come
[16/7/2026 3:18 pm] Adam: Land is one thing but singapore has loads to sell without selling land itself
[16/7/2026 3:19 pm] Adam: Even without land, we have conpanies funneling money here with small offices
[16/7/2026 3:19 pm] 365: And those small offices need people, and people need land, which is hard limited
[16/7/2026 3:19 pm] Adam: Even without houses we have the most busiest land border in the world, getting workers who live across the pond to toil here for cheap
[16/7/2026 3:20 pm] 365: And how sustainable is this, 20, 30 years down the road
[16/7/2026 3:20 pm] 365: It's the same as just using our reserves as a daily expense
[16/7/2026 3:20 pm] 365: It will run out one day
[16/7/2026 3:20 pm] 365: That's why we try to balance budget on revenue
[16/7/2026 3:21 pm] 365: And use reserves only as a last resort, when there's black swan
[16/7/2026 3:21 pm] Adam: Hypothetically, singapore can survive without humans. If AI suddenly declare independence and kicks all humans out, business will deal with AI to transmit money. Trade goods
[16/7/2026 3:22 pm] Adam: And that very ai will get a call center in india for human labor
[16/7/2026 3:22 pm] 365: The country itself isn't sentient. There is no point in sovereignty when it comes to that, just split up give up bits and pieces to everyone else.
[16/7/2026 3:23 pm] 365: When you talk about Singapore "surviving" what do you refer to? The land underneath? Or the nation as a whole, including its citizens?
[16/7/2026 3:23 pm] Adam: Thats too ideal. Sovereignty is determined by might. You can see it all over the world
[16/7/2026 3:24 pm] Adam in reply to 365:
> When you talk about Singapore "surviving" what do you refer...
When politicians talk about singapore they will define it whatever the hell they want. Just like the definition of residents
[16/7/2026 3:24 pm] Adam: Singapore will prosper
[16/7/2026 3:25 pm] 365: Residents is hard defined as tax resident, anyone who works for at least 185 (give or take a few days) for the year.
[16/7/2026 3:25 pm] Adam: If AI is taxed are they residents?
[16/7/2026 3:26 pm] 365: Residents is by definition human only
[16/7/2026 3:27 pm] Adam: The thing is, the government can give definition and entitlement to these group at the stroke of the pen
[16/7/2026 3:27 pm] 365: Actually I'm not getting your argument point now. Let me clarify my own argument now is that we have been too addicted on using immigration as the core economic tool, when it really should be a last resort.
[16/7/2026 3:29 pm] Adam: My argument is those in power dont care as it doesnt truly benefit them. And if we are purely technocratic and meritocratic, things will be much worse for the average singaporean.
[16/7/2026 3:30 pm] Adam: Can an normal sinagorean male compete if they are 2 years behing on the career ladder and stunted with reservist?
[16/7/2026 3:30 pm] 365: If you truly believe they don't care, then there's not much point for you in this group other than venting is it?
[16/7/2026 3:31 pm] Adam: We are in a capitalistic society. We cannot rely on being the labourers
[16/7/2026 3:31 pm] Adam: Over time our labor will be devalued
[16/7/2026 3:31 pm] Adam: We need singaporeans to be in the landlords that everyone hates
[16/7/2026 3:32 pm] Adam: We need singaporeans to own the ai. Not work along side it
[16/7/2026 3:33 pm] Adam: We need singaporeans to own the clothes factory in china. Own the clothes stores in singapore. Not man it
[16/7/2026 3:34 pm] Adam: All these rent seekers are jobless. But they can live
[16/7/2026 3:34 pm] Adam: And if we cannot escape, we will be forever stuck working for pennies
[16/7/2026 3:34 pm] 365: AI itself cannot do everything. Though I do agree we need to have our own AI models. I think the government should work towards building a model that they can rely on, with local engineers maintaining and improving it. The US has shown themselves capable of cutting off access anytime. Even if they don't, there may be other availability issues.
[16/7/2026 3:35 pm] 365: And then you'll be reliant on other countries for everything, that creates another vulnerability.
[16/7/2026 3:36 pm] Adam: Singapore has always been reliant if you phrase it that way
[16/7/2026 3:36 pm] Adam: Its a vital trade route. An internet hub
[16/7/2026 3:36 pm] Adam: Cannot be isolationist if we want to prosper
[16/7/2026 3:37 pm] Adam: There will always be vunerability. But its better to open a door and have a small risk than to not take any risk at all
[16/7/2026 3:37 pm] 365: We have, which is why we are trying to spread out the risks. I am not advocating for isolationist means. But there has to be a limit to how much we are giving. I don't believe in an either or solution, but a healthy mix from both spectrums. Just like how a purely capitalist economy doesn't work, you inject socialist policies funded through tax.
[16/7/2026 3:38 pm] Adam: Tbh i dont like how the socialist policies has been done so far
[16/7/2026 3:38 pm] Adam: Skillsfuture feels like throwing money to scammers
[16/7/2026 3:40 pm] Adam: If we do socialist policy, it should be very intentional to benefit the receiver, instead of enriching the businesses
[16/7/2026 3:40 pm] 365: Individual policies are up for another debate, but we can't function on pure capitalism. Your roads, infrastructure, police enforcement, emergency services, public education, are all socialist. They are funded by tax from our pooled income.
[16/7/2026 3:43 pm] Adam: Many that benefit all are good. Yet i feel it has failed somewhat for those benefits that are disbursed selectively. Those that are financially inclined know how to game the social system to the max. See hdb flippers. Getting to goodest of schools.
[16/7/2026 3:45 pm] Adam: Sometimes i feel might as well not have a system if it sucks so bad
[16/7/2026 3:50 pm] 365: That is a fallacy, for all its faults, having no system provides no structure and lead to chaos. But I think we are detracting from the main points.
I think the insourcing is a logical approach to protecting our essential systems and ensuring sustainable long term operations. The retrenchment benefits have been generous.
I just hope for the same sustainability view to be adopted in view of our economic measures, instead of chasing infinite growth.
[16/7/2026 3:51 pm] Adam: The big issue is we have to chase the infinite growth or be left behind. The only way for 'sustainable' growth is to convince every country in the world to slow down
[16/7/2026 3:52 pm] Adam: If we have a child, have to force them to study very hard too and suffer. Its not possible to tell the school and every other parents to tone down
[16/7/2026 3:54 pm] LCL (Danny 心):
I will like to discuss the history and transition of Government Technology Arms - basically an IT arm for the Government, also a CIO and CTO of the Government Services - based on my understanding, perspective, opinion and observation :-
1. NCB (National Computer Board) is 1st developed to exploit computerisation for the Government services that rely on pen and paper - where mainframe have just started. IBM maintframe and a cheaper option Hitachi mainframe are just starting to computerise and automate the pen and paper function.
a. At that time, IT vendors (domestic ones) are almost non existent, safe for overseas one.
b. Hence, NCB is formed to plan, collect user requirements for system development, design (jointly with overseas tech vendors), call tender to procure equipment, employ trained software engineers, hardware mainframe engineers, EUC engineers (End User Computing) to design, develop, code, maintain and operate the system.
Continous updating and upgrading of the internal developed systems are required - as user requirements change.
IT consultants and engineers - who are techie are attached to each Ministries, Statutory Boards and Organ of State.
That is the basic function of NCB - the model of NCB is to plan, implement, own, operate, maintain and improve.
NCB model is an in-source model.
[16/7/2026 3:55 pm] Adam: Nowadays competition so fierce. Kids doing multiple internships. I heard even before uni. And job market got these early career retrenchments
[16/7/2026 4:00 pm] REACH Singapore: 📢 Topic 📢
[16/7/2026 4:02 pm] 365: I don't advocate for reduced competition, but a sustainable economic model, and importantly less reliance on immigration. This can be through more productivity or better services, which in turn is actually more competition.
AI is a good multiplier and opportunity of us to wean off the immigration addiction.
[16/7/2026 4:03 pm] 365: The competition is global, and there regardless of what we try to do. So we should prioritize on how we can bring up the value and productivity of individuals, rather than getting more population. Both increases overall output, but 1 does it without exploding population.
[16/7/2026 4:06 pm] Adam: We keep upping the value and productivity of residents. But the residents dont really get much in return.
[16/7/2026 4:07 pm] Adam: In your workplace if you 2x your productivity or you work overtime you get paid almost the same.
[16/7/2026 4:08 pm] LCL (Danny 心):
At that time, since mainframe is uniform - sharing of datasets among the Government different Ministries and Government bodies make sense - because the hardware platforms, database, dataset, programming code, cabling etc are all of the same standards and data sharing has no obstacles and can share across departments.
Hence in-source model of techie within the Government Tech arms make sense.
Moreover, there are practically no domestic local vendors to out-source.
[16/7/2026 4:08 pm] 365: And increasing population through immigration doesn't really help the situation does it?
[16/7/2026 4:09 pm] 365: If we are speaking from helping current residents perspective
[16/7/2026 4:10 pm] Adam in reply to 365:
> And increasing population through immigration doesn't really...
Thats the thing. Immigration will help, if we treat immigrants as exploited labor for the singaporean class. See all the jobs that pays peanuts that singaporeans dont want to do
[16/7/2026 4:10 pm] Jun Ming: Basically the top 1% and the bottom 20% is immigrants that might be ideal
[16/7/2026 4:11 pm] Jun Ming: Since you no need so much foreign talent to teach Singaporean to be talented right
[16/7/2026 4:11 pm] Adam: If we keep devaluing the human labor that no singaporean wants to write code for $5, we better be the ones that benefits from the coding swetshop
[16/7/2026 4:12 pm] Adam: Whether it be located in singaporean datacenter or somewhere overseas
[16/7/2026 4:12 pm] 365: And you think the current rate of inflow is not more than what is needed for the lower paying jobs?
[16/7/2026 4:14 pm] 365: Also, I can see first hand how someone who is producing output of much higher value, is paid much better. Basically able to take on the hat of multiple positions and possess many capabilities not found in the average employee. This individual is paid very well.
[16/7/2026 4:14 pm] 365: Value is not determined by oneself, but by the market's needs.
[16/7/2026 4:16 pm] 365: And I do agree we should stay away from low value jobs for Singaporeans in general. Strive for higher value roles.
[16/7/2026 4:16 pm] 365: Additional inflow should be controlled, according to our needs for their labor, not as a growth tool.
[16/7/2026 4:20 pm] Adam: I say let them in. But have them pay for it. If we have 6m immigrants that each rent a $2000 flat from each singaporean, can live very comfy
[16/7/2026 4:20 pm] Adam: Even better if they are renting in johor but owned by singaporean
[16/7/2026 4:21 pm] LCL (Danny 心):
2. a. But as technology evolves from mainframe to network, LAN (proprietary network protocols like Banyan Vines, IPX/SPX to TCP IP) and WAN (TCP/IP that evolves the Internet) - server-client computing come into pictures.
IT technology no longer uniform and standard.
Applications mounted on server-client computing using differnet Operating Systems - e.g Unix, Linux, Microsoft OS, Apple IOS etc proliferate.
PCs (Personal Computers), Laptops that are connected together via proprietary LAN protocols and subsequently TCP/IP - Internet standard arises replacing the mainframe dumb terminals - as PCs installed with SNA-emulation arises to access the mainframe.
Email, communication software and system proliferate using different standard eg. MS Mail, Lotus etc eventually evolve into Internet Email system offer by overseas Big Tech like Google email, Yahoo email etc.
b. Increasingly, the Central function to ensure Different Ministries can coordinate, collaborate, shared data, disparate IT systems can communicate.
c. Then NCB role no longer serve the Evolution of Technology development - and iDA (InfoComm Development Authority) is formed - to be able to handle the proliferation and evolution of the disparate, network, IT functions. Central Functions of coordination, managment, control, collaboration, data sharing, centralisation become important.
Mainframe era is over.
Evolution of technology shapes the way Government IT Tech arms restructure to better manage and exploit the IT technology for the benefits of the Government services.
[16/7/2026 4:24 pm] 365: You want the best for Singaporeans, but population density also plays a huge part in QoL. Unless you can ensure Singaporeans can spread out all over the world to live, I really can't see it as a net positive.
[16/7/2026 4:24 pm] LCL (Danny 心) in reply to LCL (Danny 心):
> 2. a. But as technology evolves from mainframe to network,...
This is strategic thinking.
1. Digitalisation become the strategic direction - that is to create a Digital Economy to form another wing to supplement traditional physical business - to extend the reach beyond our physical boundaries through the Internet and Web technologies.
Our tiny red dot is then able to punch above our weight - and no longer constraint by our small physical size - as digital web - can pull in business all over the world.
2. I still remember the previous Ministers and top civil servants lamenting - the technologies move so fast, but our model of insourcing is too tie down and cannot respond fast enough.
3. And insourcing also means Nationalisation - because recruiting more techie, own and operate will means very strong technical Government - but our private domestic sectors are very weak - as we have no or negligible solid strategic domestic vendors to earn money for Singapore domestically and overseas.
4. Then come the concept of Corporatisation - whereby strong Government Tech arms - are split into Authority (Tech Consultant) and GLCs (Government linked) system integrators, tech vendors.
So NCB are split into iDA (IT Authority) and NCS (National Computer Systems) buy over by Singtel - to be the solid local tech providers.
TAS become part of iDA now iMDA (Telecom Authority) and Singtel (very big local Telecommunication company) expanded into regional telecoms.
Keppel Corp, Sembcorp, Surbana, PSA corps, SMRT, Transit Link, Comfort Delgro
etc etc.
5. Temasek Holdings is formed to manage all the strategic spin off GLCs as Sovereign Fund to earn big money for Singapore. Now Temasek Holdings asset management is a big US$518 billion and still growing.
6. When this happen, iDA function evolved into the model of (project management, vendor management, service delivery) with a strong Centralised Tech functions - but the rest of the Ministries iDA officers become project managers, vendor manager, service delivery managers.
[16/7/2026 4:56 pm] LCL (Danny 心):
1. Out-sourcing become the talk of the day.
The most famous one is SOE (Standard Operating Environment) - for all servers, network, PC etc - whereby all the IT infrastructure is outsource to one mega vendor - and the concept of plan, implement, own, operate, maintain, improve in-source model is thrown out of the window.
iDA officers essentially become service delivery managers, project managers and vendor managers.
Any changes in the user requirement and need changes to the IT infrastructure - need to call tenders - less agile, less responsive to change.
2. Hence the need to insource - to make the Government system, more agile, more nimble, more ownership, more responsive to the Government and public needs become more and more important.
3. Then come to the evolution of GovTech to replace iDA.
Covid is the trigger point - the needs to come out with system solution quickly to manage and contain the risk of Covid spread.
Calling tenders to vendors to respond to Covid threat - will be far too slow.
GovTech quickly assembles a group of techie (a well known figure - son of a VIP) - come out with good solutions such as the Bluetooth Sentry, track covid people etc to help fight the Covid spread.
CDC vouchers to respond to need to contain Cost of Living etc..
The need to in-source, to be agile, to be responsive to change etc become increasingly the focus.
With the advent of AI - that will help techie to close the execution gap quickly can be exploited.
Though AI cannot close the competency gap -- hence need to retrain all the GovTech staff to be techie such as software engineers, cybersecurity engineers, product managers - from project managers, vendor managers and service delivery managers.
And Govtech techie will then need to own the product they develop..
Of course partnership with vendors will still be required - because there will be technical gaps when technology evolve.
[16/7/2026 4:58 pm] LCL (Danny 心):
I suspect those 93 who are let go - unable to adapt to convert their soft skills into technical hard skills.
That is why i always told my staff previously, never let go of your technical skills.
Even as manager, I still dirty my hands to ensure i won't lose my technical skills and knowledge - even until now.
This is the same advice I want to convey to all Singaporeans - in order to ensure you always able to secure your jobs.
[16/7/2026 5:40 pm] LCL (Danny 心):
China is the world manufacturing hub.
Because it in-source and keep its technical capabilities.
[16/7/2026 5:40 pm] LCL (Danny 心):
US want to focus on services and want big money - outsource many of its manufacturing cap.
Now China outsurge US in manufacturing.
[16/7/2026 5:42 pm] LCL (Danny 心):
Hence this is a good lesson that Singapore must learn.
Outsource everything - we lose our technical and technologies cap - as well as our foundation to build a strong R&D, advanced manufacturing and technical cap.
We must not go down the easy path of outsourcing.
[16/7/2026 5:43 pm] LCL (Danny 心) in reply to LCL (Danny 心):
> Hence this is a good lesson that Singapore must learn....
That was also my message during SOE.
[16/7/2026 5:55 pm] LCL (Danny 心):
But important for Govtech to maintain a centralised function - to ensure the disparate Ministries system can communicate, coordinate and share datasets.
[16/7/2026 5:58 pm] LCL (Danny 心):
With individual Ministry owning their individual products - must not lead to the loss of centralised communication.
Otherwise, silos will formed, one ministry unable to shared critical information across Ministries.
[16/7/2026 5:59 pm] LCL (Danny 心) in reply to LCL (Danny 心):
> With individual Ministry owning their individual products -...
This pitfalls also must be avoided.
[16/7/2026 6:08 pm] LCL (Danny 心):
With cloud, virtualisation and AI LLM - I think sharing of multiple Ministries datasets and information should be much easier even with disparate, non-standardized hardware and software.
But Govtech needs a centralised unit to ensure central management, and collaboration can take effects.
Govtech centralised techies will need AI professionals, cloud professionals, system professional, cybersecurity, application platform and network professionals to ensure such centralised coordination can take place.
[16/7/2026 6:26 pm] LCL (Danny 心) in reply to LCL (Danny 心):
> With cloud, virtualisation and AI LLM - I think sharing of...
Eg. Police unable to share information with MHA, Mindef - jialat.
MOF cannot share information with all Ministries - jialat. Ministries no money.
Court cannot share information with prison - jialat.
[16/7/2026 6:28 pm] Jun Ming in reply to LCL (Danny 心):
> But important for Govtech to maintain a centralised function -...
Actually I am surprised that most of our gov tech is being outsource
[16/7/2026 6:29 pm] Jun Ming: Although there's a saying that made in sg often fail
[16/7/2026 6:29 pm] LCL (Danny 心) in reply to Jun Ming:
> Actually I am surprised that most of our gov tech is being...
Well.
There are those history and consideration behind it.
That's why important to learn from history and lessons
[16/7/2026 6:29 pm] LCL (Danny 心) in reply to Jun Ming:
> Although there's a saying that made in sg often fail
Made in Singapore - the world is going after.
Because Singapore system is trustworthy and reliable.
[16/7/2026 6:29 pm] Jun Ming in reply to Jun Ming:
> Actually I am surprised that most of our gov tech is being...
I will actually thought that singpass is build by gov
[16/7/2026 6:30 pm] Jun Ming in reply to LCL (Danny 心):
> Made in Singapore - the world is going after....
This is not true in some army technology
[16/7/2026 6:31 pm] LCL (Danny 心):
Singpass initially plan and design by iDA - as single sign on platform.
Then throw tender, crimson logic - a GLC win it.
Many are ex NCB, iDA staff.
[16/7/2026 6:32 pm] Jun Ming: I heard from folks that it's designed by lhl son or something
[16/7/2026 6:33 pm] LCL (Danny 心) in reply to Jun Ming:
> This is not true in some army technology
Er..
ST kinetic make warhorg - worship by UK army - for saving their army lives even when ied explode underneath, it can still travel, climb mountains and appear right in front of taliban camp.
[16/7/2026 6:33 pm] LCL (Danny 心) in reply to LCL (Danny 心):
> Er.. ST kinetic make warhorg - worship by UK army - for...
UK mother's cry and thanks Singapore for the warhorg.
[16/7/2026 6:33 pm] LCL (Danny 心) in reply to Jun Ming:
> I heard from folks that it's designed by lhl son or something
COVID IT gadget yes.
[16/7/2026 6:34 pm] Jun Ming: But on the ground in sg every one complain on st engineering
[16/7/2026 6:35 pm] LCL (Danny 心):
Many stealth warships - St kinetic design.
Armour carrier like bionic, terrex, the new solid one AI, AV forgot its name also St kinetic make.
[16/7/2026 6:35 pm] LCL (Danny 心) in reply to Jun Ming:
> But on the ground in sg every one complain on st engineering
Is it?
[16/7/2026 6:36 pm] Jun Ming: Yes. They say some design is no brainer
[16/7/2026 6:36 pm] LCL (Danny 心):
The assault rifle sar20 also St made.
[16/7/2026 6:36 pm] LCL (Danny 心):
Well people also complained alot of things.
Like M16, ar15 we also complained.
Shoot halfway can jam.
Must IA.
[16/7/2026 6:37 pm] Jun Ming: Ya I know. My commanders say foreign counterpart say you can try lor
[16/7/2026 6:38 pm] LCL (Danny 心):
Last time, people also complained about US patriot missiles sucks - I think ver 1 and 2 always miss target.
TikTok many people laughing.
Now ver 3 good performance.
Everyone wants.
[16/7/2026 6:38 pm] LCL (Danny 心) in reply to LCL (Danny 心):
> Many stealth warships - St kinetic design....
Oh I think Hunter.
[16/7/2026 6:43 pm] Jun Ming: Hunter series bionix series are made from st engineering
[16/7/2026 6:44 pm] Jun Ming: Compare to leopard series they fail more easily
[16/7/2026 6:44 pm] LCL (Danny 心) in reply to Jun Ming:
> Hunter series bionix series are made from st engineering
Yes.
Very good armour vehicles.
Last time, China seize terrex and see what is inside.
They say well design, high tech, very capable armour.
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[16/7/2026 6:45 pm] LCL (Danny 心) in reply to Jun Ming:
> Compare to leopard series they fail more easily
Leopard German tanks.
[16/7/2026 6:46 pm] Jun Ming in reply to LCL (Danny 心):
> Leopard German tanks.
Yes that's why everyone complain that it breakdown easily
[16/7/2026 6:46 pm] LCL (Danny 心):
Leopard tank - later version are battle tested.
High survival rate.
[16/7/2026 6:47 pm] LCL (Danny 心) in reply to Jun Ming:
> Yes that's why everyone complain that it breakdown easily
Not sure about that.
Ukraine use it quite well.
[16/7/2026 6:47 pm] Jun Ming in reply to LCL (Danny 心):
> Not sure about that. Ukraine use it quite well.
I mean sg tank breakdown easily compare to leopard
[16/7/2026 6:48 pm] Jun Ming: Specifically the bionix series
[16/7/2026 6:48 pm] LCL (Danny 心):
Oh is it?
Not sure - I no longer in NS.
[16/7/2026 6:48 pm] G in reply to LCL (Danny 心):
> Leopard tank - later version are battle tested....
How come govtech retrenchment become a lecture about war equipment
[16/7/2026 6:48 pm] LCL (Danny 心):
Now got hunter and terrex.
[16/7/2026 6:49 pm] Jun Ming in reply to G:
> How come govtech retrenchment become a lecture about war...
Because I am surprised that why things is outsource from the first place
[16/7/2026 6:49 pm] Jun Ming: Rather fully developed by our sg gov
[16/7/2026 6:49 pm] LCL (Danny 心):
Bionix 1st version of network and sensor armour.
[16/7/2026 6:49 pm] Jun Ming: And we corelate to wat equipment made in sg
[16/7/2026 6:50 pm] Jun Ming: And folks say made in sg is not as good as making from overseas
[16/7/2026 6:50 pm] LCL (Danny 心) in reply to Jun Ming:
> And folks say made in sg is not as good as making from...
Not really.
It takes time to improve and achieve reliability.
[16/7/2026 6:51 pm] LCL (Danny 心):
F-35 now also alot of bugs and alot of fixes needed.
It takes time to become more reliable.
[16/7/2026 6:51 pm] Jun Ming: Only lifesg and singpass kind of reliable
[16/7/2026 6:52 pm] G in reply to Jun Ming:
> Because I am surprised that why things is outsource from the...
Ask OYK. He was the one that led the outsourcing of key in house capabilities when he was a civil servant back in the 1990s
[16/7/2026 6:52 pm] Jun Ming in reply to Jun Ming:
> Only lifesg and singpass kind of reliable
Because lhl son is involved
[16/7/2026 6:52 pm] LCL (Danny 心) in reply to Jun Ming:
> Only lifesg and singpass kind of reliable
Many versions to improve singpass.
That's why now government emphasize ownership and continuous improvement.
[16/7/2026 6:53 pm] Jun Ming: Look at dbs system keep failing
[16/7/2026 6:54 pm] Jun Ming: Despite many maintenance
[16/7/2026 6:54 pm] Jun Ming: And fine
[16/7/2026 6:54 pm] LCL (Danny 心):
It takes time to settle down
[16/7/2026 6:56 pm] Jun Ming: Hope the efficiency will keep up
[16/7/2026 6:56 pm] LCL (Danny 心):
Give them sometime.
[16/7/2026 6:57 pm] LCL (Danny 心):
Btw leopard tank ver 1 and 2 also fail very often in the battlefield.
Ukraine source.
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