How China the copycat became a tech giant to rival the US
From having four Silicon Valleys to scoring a world first — a city with a 100 per cent electric bus fleet — China has taken on the US for technological supremacy. Insight looks at how the country did it.
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Danny Lum
(1) Looking at objective data :-
(a) Number of patents filed by China - 1.102 million.
(b) Number of patents filed by US - 0.58941 million.
(2) Number of R&D scientists and engineer =
(a) China R&D
(i) China local = 801,135
(ii) Foreigners = 127,042
(b) US R&D
(i) US local = 285,096
(ii) Foreigners = 293,76 (majority are Chinese and Indian)
Source :- Technology & Patent Research
(Apr 2016)
(3) Just by looking at the above figures --- China are set to overtake US silicon valley very soon.
(4) Trump and his team and many of their supporters --- will be surprise that labelling China as copycat is outdated --- as admitted by many US tech companies.
eg. Huawei has full 5G network and eco-system.
Ericsson and Nokia - partial 5G network.
US - has no 5G network only some 5G chips.
China is ahead in AI, Quantum tech, SuperComputing and even in some air-to-air missile tech (eg. PL15 that can reach 400km - far exceed US AIM120 - and US trying to catch up with AIM260).
(5) China is poised to be an innovator that has the capability to overtake US given time.
(a) Number of patents filed by China - 1.102 million.
(b) Number of patents filed by US - 0.58941 million.
(2) Number of R&D scientists and engineer =
(a) China R&D
(i) China local = 801,135
(ii) Foreigners = 127,042
(b) US R&D
(i) US local = 285,096
(ii) Foreigners = 293,76 (majority are Chinese and Indian)
Source :- Technology & Patent Research
(Apr 2016)
(3) Just by looking at the above figures --- China are set to overtake US silicon valley very soon.
(4) Trump and his team and many of their supporters --- will be surprise that labelling China as copycat is outdated --- as admitted by many US tech companies.
eg. Huawei has full 5G network and eco-system.
Ericsson and Nokia - partial 5G network.
US - has no 5G network only some 5G chips.
China is ahead in AI, Quantum tech, SuperComputing and even in some air-to-air missile tech (eg. PL15 that can reach 400km - far exceed US AIM120 - and US trying to catch up with AIM260).
(5) China is poised to be an innovator that has the capability to overtake US given time.
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Rukia Kuchiki
The number of patents doesn't mean much. Stop googling useless shit to paint motherland in good light 😆
"Just by looking at the above figures..." LOL YES PROF!
"Just by looking at the above figures..." LOL YES PROF!
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Danny Lum
Rukia Kuchiki -
(1) You are full of shit. The source is from the International body that administer the patent.
(2) China AI, 5G has overtaken US - many in the R&D arena know it.
(3) Your comments prove that you know naughts.
(4) I don't side US or China - as I only look at outcome, real statistics and data.
(5) Most of your comments i have seen - are biased and not worth looking at. And usually I will not waste time replying to such posts - and this will be my last response to you.
(1) You are full of shit. The source is from the International body that administer the patent.
(2) China AI, 5G has overtaken US - many in the R&D arena know it.
(3) Your comments prove that you know naughts.
(4) I don't side US or China - as I only look at outcome, real statistics and data.
(5) Most of your comments i have seen - are biased and not worth looking at. And usually I will not waste time replying to such posts - and this will be my last response to you.
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Rukia Kuchiki
Danny Lum Don't be retarded man! I file one time-travel patent today, all your cina billion patents also no fight
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Rukia Kuchiki
Danny Lum Yayaya you blindly look at stats only, no use brain to think what you're looking at, what's the use lol?
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Rukia Kuchiki
Danny Lum Let me drop more bomb on you: The inherent tendency to falsify (research) is believed to be part of Chinese culture, mostly driven by the need for researchers and academics to perform and measured by the number of academic publications as well as the number of patents applications filed. Can cheat more research money hahaha!
And if my country really have super-leet 'Time travel' tech (analogy) - won't even bother to file secrecy patent. Won't even trust my country's patent office, let alone China's lol
And if my country really have super-leet 'Time travel' tech (analogy) - won't even bother to file secrecy patent. Won't even trust my country's patent office, let alone China's lol
Eric Cheong
Danny, interesting data indeed! Scientific fact is as solid as a rock. No doubt t increasing pool of talent will advance China's tech by leaps and bounds, but t real strength is China's political stability n its fast increasing domestic spending power. A purpose-driven president can make a lot of things happen!
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Danny Lum
Eric Cheong -
(1) Normally I don't dwell into political system - because each Country is responsible for their political stability, social stability, economic stability - and integration with the rest of the World.
(2) I agree with you that political stability is important, planning long-term for economic developlment is important and the China President is friendly with the World and did well economically by sharing mutual benefits with the World.
Of course there are some bi-lateral friction with some Countries - and as long as pragmatic and win-win approach is adopted - I don't see confrontation and conflict as the imperative outcome.
(3) China domestic market is huge - the largest or 2nd largest (if India overtake China by birth).
But China middle income earners have grown to 400 million people (more than US 350 million people).
And indeed if China focus on domestic consumption - by bringing up another 400 million people from poverty - it will exceed US in total GDP.
(4) US currently has higher per capita GDP, but China has huge consumer market with the largest middle income in the World as it stands now.
(5) Increasingly, if China focus on high-value tech innovation, reinforce its position as a responsible Global trade partners - China will take over US as a de-facto Global Leaders in tech, trading partners and global climate.
(6) But China must win friends all over the World - with mutual beneficial outcome to do so and not imposing its political system on others.
(7) The following foreign affair principle adopted by Singapore will be useful for China as well :-
"Friends with All.
Adversaries with None.
Build mutual benefits with Win-Win Outcomes."
"朋友满天下。
敌人无一个。
以互惠互利共识建立双赢结果。“
广结善缘。
(1) Normally I don't dwell into political system - because each Country is responsible for their political stability, social stability, economic stability - and integration with the rest of the World.
(2) I agree with you that political stability is important, planning long-term for economic developlment is important and the China President is friendly with the World and did well economically by sharing mutual benefits with the World.
Of course there are some bi-lateral friction with some Countries - and as long as pragmatic and win-win approach is adopted - I don't see confrontation and conflict as the imperative outcome.
(3) China domestic market is huge - the largest or 2nd largest (if India overtake China by birth).
But China middle income earners have grown to 400 million people (more than US 350 million people).
And indeed if China focus on domestic consumption - by bringing up another 400 million people from poverty - it will exceed US in total GDP.
(4) US currently has higher per capita GDP, but China has huge consumer market with the largest middle income in the World as it stands now.
(5) Increasingly, if China focus on high-value tech innovation, reinforce its position as a responsible Global trade partners - China will take over US as a de-facto Global Leaders in tech, trading partners and global climate.
(6) But China must win friends all over the World - with mutual beneficial outcome to do so and not imposing its political system on others.
(7) The following foreign affair principle adopted by Singapore will be useful for China as well :-
"Friends with All.
Adversaries with None.
Build mutual benefits with Win-Win Outcomes."
"朋友满天下。
敌人无一个。
以互惠互利共识建立双赢结果。“
广结善缘。
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Rukia Kuchiki
Danny Lum no matter how many times you change your fb account, you will still be the statistic fraud that you started with 😆
Rukia Kuchiki
Danny Lum "Normally I don't dwell into political system"
Let me speak the truth on your behalf, so you can feel better: your heart is with China, but your loyalty is to your IB boss LHL, who is US-siding.
Don't have to thank me bro 👍
Let me speak the truth on your behalf, so you can feel better: your heart is with China, but your loyalty is to your IB boss LHL, who is US-siding.
Don't have to thank me bro 👍
Eric Cheong
Danny Lum ,well said!
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Rukia Kuchiki
Tonyle Tan You are using your buttocks to think n talk. In fact you don't fit here because you don't do intelligent discussions
Eric Cheong
It is nothing unusual for countries lagging behind in technology to catch up by following what Japan, S.Korea n Taiwan do: Imitate, Buy, Merge, Recruit n Copy. However, what makes an industry leading is its ability to improve their products through continued innovations n using the most cost effective solutions to make them into the market place in the shortest possible time! It won't be long before industrial leaders realise that just "protection" policies will not help them to keep their leads!
Daniel Webb
Talking about stealing technology, look at the following examples:
a. The US stolen and copied the jet engine plane and missile technology from the Germans. That's undeniable facts, the Americans proudly admitted it themselves, google it.
b.The CIA stole a MIG-25 from Russia in 1975 and copied a lot of secrets from the Russian. Again many literature talked about it and the US is very proud of copying the MIG 25. etc.
c. There are a lot of infringement of copyrights in the US and lawsuits are abundant. Just google it.
Don't fall into the US propaganda in news media and movies .
a. The US stolen and copied the jet engine plane and missile technology from the Germans. That's undeniable facts, the Americans proudly admitted it themselves, google it.
b.The CIA stole a MIG-25 from Russia in 1975 and copied a lot of secrets from the Russian. Again many literature talked about it and the US is very proud of copying the MIG 25. etc.
c. There are a lot of infringement of copyrights in the US and lawsuits are abundant. Just google it.
Don't fall into the US propaganda in news media and movies .
Ching Buyching
LOL...I really love these troll paid writer written jokes...the desperation is oozing
Rukia Kuchiki
These guys starting up their start-ups would be crying once everything has been stolen after which they'll be kicked out of 'competition'.
Daniel Tan
Bloomberg released an article about Huawei employees working for the PLA just before the G20 summit. The timing of the press release is so "coincidental".
Meanwhile, CNA released this article (and written by CNA itself) just before Xi-Trump talks later today and I believe it's good for CNA readers to gather some ideas instead of the Western narrative all the time i.e. Reuters / Bloomberg / AFP.
Glad to hear that technologists are not looking at things in a binary way, hope that this spirit continues to fester.
Despite reading article after article about China stealing US IP, the truth is that has anybody put a gun to the heads of US corporations to open factories or invest in China?
China stated some conditions and it's a willing buyer / willing seller transaction, isn't it? US corporations could have not opened factories in China but nonetheless, they proceeded to do so. In other words, those US corporations must have done their sums and came to the conclusion that it's a worthwhile price to pay.
Nonetheless, Trump being Trump, even if there's an agreement today (which is very unlikely), he will not honour it because his style is that he wants to win and win big and he'll want to re-negotiate when the itch strikes again.
With him, no agreement is worth the piece of paper that he signs on.
Meanwhile, Singapore already has to revise our 2019 GDP figures downwards all because of this ill-conceived trade war of his.
MAGA is making countries like Singapore poorer.
Meanwhile, CNA released this article (and written by CNA itself) just before Xi-Trump talks later today and I believe it's good for CNA readers to gather some ideas instead of the Western narrative all the time i.e. Reuters / Bloomberg / AFP.
Glad to hear that technologists are not looking at things in a binary way, hope that this spirit continues to fester.
Despite reading article after article about China stealing US IP, the truth is that has anybody put a gun to the heads of US corporations to open factories or invest in China?
China stated some conditions and it's a willing buyer / willing seller transaction, isn't it? US corporations could have not opened factories in China but nonetheless, they proceeded to do so. In other words, those US corporations must have done their sums and came to the conclusion that it's a worthwhile price to pay.
Nonetheless, Trump being Trump, even if there's an agreement today (which is very unlikely), he will not honour it because his style is that he wants to win and win big and he'll want to re-negotiate when the itch strikes again.
With him, no agreement is worth the piece of paper that he signs on.
Meanwhile, Singapore already has to revise our 2019 GDP figures downwards all because of this ill-conceived trade war of his.
MAGA is making countries like Singapore poorer.
Ching Buyching
Arsenal is a western team and a glorious one..please support a Chinese team and one day you can claim football was a Chinese invention, buddha is a Chinese man and yes China will be a world power.i will keep routing for you as I sip my tea:) the more you dig a hole the faster we can say the prayers.
Rukia Kuchiki
Ching Buyching wow that dude wrote 30 lines for his party religion where Xi is the god lol
Keynes Goh
Ching Buyching Hey, bro, nobody in the right frame of mind will say football is a Chinese invention and Buddha was a Chinese man. But many people do not know that spaghetti and icecream originated from China. I was attending my German language lessons more than 20 years back in Germany when my German teacher said a German (I can't remember his name) invented the printing process in the 1700s. I told her that was wrong. The Chinese man, by the name of Bi Sheng, invented the printing process in CE 700 plus, 1000 years earlier than the said German. The whole class, which consisted mainly of white people including the teacher, were surprised. Only one Taiwanese student stood by me. During that time, it was not easy to verify because internet was not common. But the teacher very nicely rounded up and said I was probably right because Chinese people were very clever and advanced in the early days of history.
Cw Ang
When the Japanese did the same thing decades ago, no complaints?
If only the world can collaboarat and work for the better of mankind
If only the world can collaboarat and work for the better of mankind
Eric Cheong
Right! China was always fingered for copying n stealing technologies frm others! They are unjustly made t scapegoat for all t inequalities! Look, USA used n copied British technologies in the early 19th century. Japan n Korea did the same through MNC n recruits know-how from abroad. The US rocket program was built with the help of former Nazi rocket scientists recruited to the US after World War II.
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Yeok Fong Yong
Eric Cheong Hahaha...Hitler Trump doesn't like you to remind him they were once copycat too lah!
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Eric Cheong
Amazing to see tt despite vy low foreign talents ratio operating in China, she has achieved so many tech advancement. Now with t tech blockage on US companies doing bussiness in China, she must learn frm USA to "steal" foreign talents by offering them immensely attractive pakage t start bussiness in China, be it R&D, innovation..because she already has t efficient infrastructure to backup: fast prototyping, manufacturing n great pool of venture capitalists n state-funded agencies. Hope more of success stories frm the likes of Mr. Matthew Scott!
Eddie Lim
this is just tip of the iceberg, military wise, China has already developed hypersonic missiles that US has nothing in their inventory that is able stop them. ....business wise, whether is 5G, future 6G, 7G, supercomputers, commercial drones, electrical cars, autonomous vehicles, China will surge ahead. Advantage is everyone in the world can enjoy all these advanced technologies that China offers at a much lower cost.
Rukia Kuchiki
US already have nano-bots that can fly in and assassinate any 'world leader'. If they want to!
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Long See Hooi
Rukia Kuchiki Dont be joke. I see you are trying to undermine everyone here with your foolish comment. A taiwanese using a Japanese trademark...shame
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Rukia Kuchiki
Long See Hooi Says the Hooi who's been disgracing himself here frequently when he tried to school others and got shot down.
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Rukia Kuchiki
Long See Hooi I can smell that you really fear these nano-bots' existence... your words betray you.
Trust your fear. They do exist.
Trust your fear. They do exist.
Eddie Lim
Rukia Kuchiki my dear friend, dont believe in this sci-fi BS too easily ok and its quite evil thinking too.... still its not so simple, u do not understand assassinating a country's leader doesnt necessary mean u have defeated or changed the country's path and direction, another leader will emerge to take over, especially for China which even without President Xi will still continue their Party's policy and philosophy and continue what China is doing now and going to do in the future. Not forgetting the billions of diligent business minded chinese people too which u cant change, even if u successfully remove Xi and his party, u cant change China people who will somehow make the world buy their reliable technologies with much lower price and better aftersale service and support. Lastly, my friend, dont play the evil role in this world, cos evil people have no good ending, dont forget this ok, remember in karma too. :)
Rukia Kuchiki
Eddie Lim bro I dun read your full comment but you scored OG with your
"assassinating a country's leader doesnt necessary mean u have defeated or changed the country's path".
I could say the same of your 'hypersonic missiles' lol
"assassinating a country's leader doesnt necessary mean u have defeated or changed the country's path".
I could say the same of your 'hypersonic missiles' lol
Rukia Kuchiki
The assassination would not change the path of the country.... that's mundane knowledge. But it can certainly change the path of the person who's contemplating ordering your 'hypersonic missile' strike. Ask Kim.
Christopher Mathew Stephenson
Funny how you know what the usa military has in the inventory. I'm a ex ranger and never had that kind of clearance
Eddie Lim
Christopher Mathew Stephenson
ok i provided 3 links but was deleted by CNA.
just google and u will read US military themselves admit they have no answer against hypersonic missile strike by china or russia... i just copy the below abstracts for you :
1)China and Russia are ‘aggressively pursuing’ hypersonic weapons — and the US doesn’t have any defenses
2)U.S. Military Admits Its "Helpless" Against a Hypersonic Missile Strike by China or Russia
3)US unable to defend against Russian and Chinese hypersonic weapons, report warns
ok i provided 3 links but was deleted by CNA.
just google and u will read US military themselves admit they have no answer against hypersonic missile strike by china or russia... i just copy the below abstracts for you :
1)China and Russia are ‘aggressively pursuing’ hypersonic weapons — and the US doesn’t have any defenses
2)U.S. Military Admits Its "Helpless" Against a Hypersonic Missile Strike by China or Russia
3)US unable to defend against Russian and Chinese hypersonic weapons, report warns
Christopher Mathew Stephenson
Eddie Limp hahaha why didn't I think about that. Just google all of American top military secret weapons. So your saying no need to spy on America just google and you can find out everything.
Christopher Mathew Stephenson
Eddie Lim so your saying that there is no chance the usa has weapons that you don't know about
Eddie Lim
Christopher Mathew Stephenson its what was reported in taiwan news recently, so i was quite shocked too... actually it was reported that US officials has just formally informed Taiwan officials that they have learnt that China has successfully tested their hypersonic missiles and unfortunately US has nothing to stop it at the moment.
Eddie Lim
Christopher Mathew Stephenson anyway just now after googling for you, i also learned that US is speeding up their efforts in developing hypersonic missiles and similarly Russia and China would not able to stop those US hypersonic missiles too, cos they just too fast, so imagine all these hypersonic missiles carry nuclear warhead, then i guess its pretty dreadful to even think of it. Maybe we humans will exterminate ourselves one day..
Joseph Convergence
Western is able to make a first move.
Asia moves to where Western had been before.
Asia moves to where Western had been before.
Joseph Convergence
Westerner is able to be first in firing a man in rocket straight out of earth...which civilisation or nations do such things.
Joseph Convergence
Therefore i agree the Trade talk cannot achieve a fair deal...
Who started mobilt phone
Who started internet
Who started wikipedia, youtube...etc
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Honor thy great leader who venture beyond the frontier and share their experience with us.
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Who started mobilt phone
Who started internet
Who started wikipedia, youtube...etc
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Honor thy great leader who venture beyond the frontier and share their experience with us.
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Eric Cheong
Agree we should respect all the great scientists n technologists, whether Western or Asian tt make our lives n world better! Great tech can only benefit mankind through manufactured products n making money will be the fair reasult. No one is complaining abt the plentiful of US tech leaders making lots of money by manufacture their invention in China coz of low-cost n high-skill industries.
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Daniel Tan
If this is true, then it is a good example of how govt are involved with pumping billions to grow AI and high tech.
This make me a question , how could singapore do it or what singapore could do?
Singapore had misses those opportunities and till now we are still in B2B service trade or act as middle men. But with the improvement of communication like 5G and media, one fine day we will be left out of this dog eats dogs bone game. Thats pretty bad....for the future generation in having to get out of their comfort zone just like those maids and low salary base foreigners in singapore.
This make me a question , how could singapore do it or what singapore could do?
Singapore had misses those opportunities and till now we are still in B2B service trade or act as middle men. But with the improvement of communication like 5G and media, one fine day we will be left out of this dog eats dogs bone game. Thats pretty bad....for the future generation in having to get out of their comfort zone just like those maids and low salary base foreigners in singapore.
Eric Cheong
I think is pretty hard for Singapore to do any substantial stuff in Tech coz we dun hv t critical mass in market n talent. Our sizeable
manufacturing is rooted in MNC n we dun hv any strong secondary industries. Our hope is on R&D, especially biotech, n perhaps some clever "sparks!" tt we can take it to China f prototyping in one of our joint-venture technoparks!
manufacturing is rooted in MNC n we dun hv any strong secondary industries. Our hope is on R&D, especially biotech, n perhaps some clever "sparks!" tt we can take it to China f prototyping in one of our joint-venture technoparks!
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Albert Kwek
Eric Cheong not only market and talents, government policies and supports too.
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Long See Hooi
A good refreshing article from CNA which is not hordes of reproduction of china bashing news from the West with only one single agenda to lie to its cocoon audience. The reason why Trump and their hawks are worried sick because if China turns copycat into innovation regardless whether it is not so evolutionary the US and the whites are in trouble. Japan took the technology post war and commercialize into a better and reliable products. China is 7 times of Japan and if the West do not start containing the situation, they realize that they will be begging on the streets. China has moved so fast…See More
Yeok Fong Yong
Indeed China tech sector need to diversify otherwise, they wiill suffer "Tunnel Vision"! An example is the Islamic world that left far behind in science and technology since the 12th century because they stop learning and excepting others of different faiths. Chew on this: you cannot find any Muslim country in the advanced nation and less than 0.5% of Nobel laucreats are Muslim despite Muslim population is about 20% of Humanity!
Eric Cheong
The old China dynasties valued their poem writing scholars than their technocrats, even they hv invented printing n gun powder! But ts doesn't mean is a bad thing coz great culture n civilisation can only survive with great teaching of morality n values, like "以德服人"!
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Albert Kwek
When you are a baby, you start to learn how to crawl and walk. By either copying or trial and error, the baby start to know how to walk. In this world, no baby can straight away know how to walk. This is applied to companies as well as countries. After certain stages, ,innovation takes place. It need the government policies and the qualities of people over there at the right time. Like 5G networks, no countries and companies can do as good as Huawei. Battery operated vehicles are done very well compared to the rest of world, so many invonations. Some of these technology can not copy…See More
Raymond Ng
Your editorial and writer ought to be more neutral and professional, using term like copycat specifically for China is insulting and show your naivety and lack of context. Which nation is not a copycat by your stupidity?
Albert Kwek
By the way, the content of article is also copied here and there. Cannot blame them.
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Lwa Ju Peng
we learn from each other. with globalisation, knowledge spread far. method of transfer can be fair or unfair. all boil down to the fact of survival and enrichment.
Goh Jon Hin
Unfortunately, Donald Duckie Trumpet doesn't care for survival. His only aim is to keep US at No.1, e.g. treatment of HuaWei, at whatever cost, despite knowing very well that the moves will impoverish his own US citizens with the tariffs.
Even Dalai Lama was sneering at his election campaign slogan "Making American Great Again". He questioned "Why only American? How about the rest of the people in this world?"
Even Dalai Lama was sneering at his election campaign slogan "Making American Great Again". He questioned "Why only American? How about the rest of the people in this world?"
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