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(1) Demanding free speeches and democracy - the gist of the 5 demands by the HK radical protestors --- will not help to resolve the economic problem and social problems for the HK people.
(2) For eg. US democracy and free speeches - produce populist and protectionist like Trump that advocate "America First, and the World last" --- whereby containing China (including HK) is their main motivation.
How does the HK radical pro-democratic protestors expect US and Trump to support HK protestors cause --- where in fact their agenda is to make China and HK go down.
(3) For eg. UK - where their democracy and free speeches led to a chaotic Brexit --- that will have a tremendous negative political, social and economic impact on UK.
So how does the HK radical pro-democratic protestors expect UK to support HK protestors cause - when in fact they need China to help them in trade, business and investment.
(4) China with the 2nd largest Economy in the World and likely to surpass US a decade later to become the larget Economy in the World - will be the most credible party to help to resolve the Economic and Social issues that HK people face.
Looking across the mainland China and many of its provinces - China economic and social policies are able to elevate more than 400 million to 700 million people out of poverty to become middle and upper income status.
It is not about free speeches, democracy or communism --- that determine the quality of governance.
It is the caliber of a Government and its civil service ---- that determine whether it can bring peace, prosperity and stability to HK.
And the majority of the HK people got to understand and recognise this ---- in order for meaningful and dialogue to arise ---- to reach common ground --- and to cease violent and protest movement --- and gradually restore back law and order into HK.
(2) For eg. US democracy and free speeches - produce populist and protectionist like Trump that advocate "America First, and the World last" --- whereby containing China (including HK) is their main motivation.
How does the HK radical pro-democratic protestors expect US and Trump to support HK protestors cause --- where in fact their agenda is to make China and HK go down.
(3) For eg. UK - where their democracy and free speeches led to a chaotic Brexit --- that will have a tremendous negative political, social and economic impact on UK.
So how does the HK radical pro-democratic protestors expect UK to support HK protestors cause - when in fact they need China to help them in trade, business and investment.
(4) China with the 2nd largest Economy in the World and likely to surpass US a decade later to become the larget Economy in the World - will be the most credible party to help to resolve the Economic and Social issues that HK people face.
Looking across the mainland China and many of its provinces - China economic and social policies are able to elevate more than 400 million to 700 million people out of poverty to become middle and upper income status.
It is not about free speeches, democracy or communism --- that determine the quality of governance.
It is the caliber of a Government and its civil service ---- that determine whether it can bring peace, prosperity and stability to HK.
And the majority of the HK people got to understand and recognise this ---- in order for meaningful and dialogue to arise ---- to reach common ground --- and to cease violent and protest movement --- and gradually restore back law and order into HK.
The HK dialogues should be broken up into 3 categories :-
(1) Economic
(2) Social
(3) Political - this topic seems to be the taboo and deadlocker between the HK & China Government with the HK protestors (as all the 5 demands are political in nature - but not economic and social issues - in which both China and HK Government can accomodate and improve upon).
As such, moderate HK people should try to achieve common ground with the HK and China Government - by focusing on the Economic and Social issues ---- which will likely to gain headway to resolve the painpoints faced by the HK people.
a. For Economic - this refer to job prospects for the HK people, the bread and butter issues, the salary, the cost of living, the prices of goods and services, education, healthcare, retirement sum etc. ---- which both the China and HK Government have the means and resources to deliver solutions to alleviate the problem face by the HK people.
b. For Social - this refer to the availiability of affordable housing, the size of the houses (not shoebox apartment of 40 sqm but should look at 90 to 100 sq m) - at affordable price, bigger social spaces for interaction and integration, establish platform for HK people to have constant dialogues with the HK Government and the China Government.
This is what the HK and China Government can accomodate - and fruitful outcomes can emerge from the dialogue.
(1) Economic
(2) Social
(3) Political - this topic seems to be the taboo and deadlocker between the HK & China Government with the HK protestors (as all the 5 demands are political in nature - but not economic and social issues - in which both China and HK Government can accomodate and improve upon).
As such, moderate HK people should try to achieve common ground with the HK and China Government - by focusing on the Economic and Social issues ---- which will likely to gain headway to resolve the painpoints faced by the HK people.
a. For Economic - this refer to job prospects for the HK people, the bread and butter issues, the salary, the cost of living, the prices of goods and services, education, healthcare, retirement sum etc. ---- which both the China and HK Government have the means and resources to deliver solutions to alleviate the problem face by the HK people.
b. For Social - this refer to the availiability of affordable housing, the size of the houses (not shoebox apartment of 40 sqm but should look at 90 to 100 sq m) - at affordable price, bigger social spaces for interaction and integration, establish platform for HK people to have constant dialogues with the HK Government and the China Government.
This is what the HK and China Government can accomodate - and fruitful outcomes can emerge from the dialogue.
丹尼盧姆
（1）要求言論自由和民主 - 香港激進抗議者提出的五項要求的要點 - 無助於解決香港人的經濟問題和社會問題。
（2）例如。美國民主和言論自由 - 產生像特朗普這樣的民粹主義和保護主義者，主張“美國第一，世界最後” - 其中包含中國（包括香港）是他們的主要動機。
香港激進的民主派抗議者如何期望美國和特朗普支持香港抗議者事業 - 實際上他們的議程是讓中國和香港垮台。
（3）例如。英國 - 他們的民主和自由言論導致了一場混亂的英國退歐 - 這將對英國產生巨大的負面政治，社會和經濟影響。
那麼香港激進的民主抗議者如何期望英國支持香港抗議者的事業 - 實際上他們需要中國幫助他們進行貿易，商業和投資。
（4）中國擁有世界第二大經濟體，十年後可能超過美國成為世界經濟大國 - 將成為幫助解決香港人面臨的經濟和社會問題的最可信賴的政黨。
縱觀中國大陸及其許多省份，中國的經濟和社會政策能夠將4億多人口提升至7億人口，擺脫貧困，成為中上等收入者。
它不是自由言論，民主或共產主義 - 決定了治理的質量。
政府及其公務員的素質決定了它是否能為香港帶來和平，繁榮和穩定。
大多數香港人都明白並認識到這一點----為了達到有意義和對話 - 達成共識 - 並停止暴力和抗議運動 - 並逐漸恢復法律和秩序進入香港。
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丹尼盧姆
香港對話應分為三類： -
（1）經濟
（2）社交
（3）政治 - 這個話題似乎是香港和中國政府與香港抗議者之間的禁忌和僵局（因為所有5項要求都是政治性的 - 但不是經濟和社會問題 - 中國和香港政府都可以容納和改進）。
因此，溫和的香港人應該努力與香港和中國政府達成共識 - 關注經濟和社會問題 - 這些問題可能會在解決香港人所面臨的痛點方面取得進展。
一種。對經濟而言 - 這指的是香港人的就業前景，麵包和黃油問題，工資，生活費用，商品和服務價格，教育，醫療保健，退休金等等。香港政府有能力和資源提供解決方案，以緩解香港人面對的問題。
灣對於社交 - 這是指經濟適用房的可用性，房屋的大小（不是40平方米的鞋盒公寓，但應該看90到100平方米） - 以實惠的價格，更大的社交空間進行互動和整合，建立平台香港人與香港政府和中國政府不斷對話。
這是香港和中國政府可以容納的 - 對話中可以產生豐碩的成果。
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（1）要求言論自由和民主 - 香港激進抗議者提出的五項要求的要點 - 無助於解決香港人的經濟問題和社會問題。
（2）例如。美國民主和言論自由 - 產生像特朗普這樣的民粹主義和保護主義者，主張“美國第一，世界最後” - 其中包含中國（包括香港）是他們的主要動機。
香港激進的民主派抗議者如何期望美國和特朗普支持香港抗議者事業 - 實際上他們的議程是讓中國和香港垮台。
（3）例如。英國 - 他們的民主和自由言論導致了一場混亂的英國退歐 - 這將對英國產生巨大的負面政治，社會和經濟影響。
那麼香港激進的民主抗議者如何期望英國支持香港抗議者的事業 - 實際上他們需要中國幫助他們進行貿易，商業和投資。
（4）中國擁有世界第二大經濟體，十年後可能超過美國成為世界經濟大國 - 將成為幫助解決香港人面臨的經濟和社會問題的最可信賴的政黨。
縱觀中國大陸及其許多省份，中國的經濟和社會政策能夠將4億多人口提升至7億人口，擺脫貧困，成為中上等收入者。
它不是自由言論，民主或共產主義 - 決定了治理的質量。
政府及其公務員的素質決定了它是否能為香港帶來和平，繁榮和穩定。
大多數香港人都明白並認識到這一點----為了達到有意義和對話 - 達成共識 - 並停止暴力和抗議運動 - 並逐漸恢復法律和秩序進入香港。
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丹尼盧姆
香港對話應分為三類： -
（1）經濟
（2）社交
（3）政治 - 這個話題似乎是香港和中國政府與香港抗議者之間的禁忌和僵局（因為所有5項要求都是政治性的 - 但不是經濟和社會問題 - 中國和香港政府都可以容納和改進）。
因此，溫和的香港人應該努力與香港和中國政府達成共識 - 關注經濟和社會問題 - 這些問題可能會在解決香港人所面臨的痛點方面取得進展。
一種。對經濟而言 - 這指的是香港人的就業前景，麵包和黃油問題，工資，生活費用，商品和服務價格，教育，醫療保健，退休金等等。香港政府有能力和資源提供解決方案，以緩解香港人面對的問題。
灣對於社交 - 這是指經濟適用房的可用性，房屋的大小（不是40平方米的鞋盒公寓，但應該看90到100平方米） - 以實惠的價格，更大的社交空間進行互動和整合，建立平台香港人與香港政府和中國政府不斷對話。
這是香港和中國政府可以容納的 - 對話中可以產生豐碩的成果。
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Henry Chua
处事不惊，不怕风雨来袭，才能大阔步前进？
历经考验的孩子，才会信心满满，走得更稳更远!
不经一番寒彻骨，怎得梅花扑鼻香？
历经考验的孩子，才会信心满满，走得更稳更远!
不经一番寒彻骨，怎得梅花扑鼻香？
Yi Yong Ke
Henry Chua: what say you...??? I don't understand. You should post your comment in the Zao Bao drinking coffee in the morning with char siew bao.
Adeline Cheo
HK should have been ruled by another with the likes and firmness and ironclad likeness of The Late Godfather Of Singapore The LATE MR. LEE KWAN YEW whom it’s Citizens respect even till today!! Without LKY early foresight, there are no bright future for Singapore!!
Richard Kam
Dialogue with the community which will be attended by some rioters and she can expect shoes to be thrown at her.
Sumoanton Anton
What rubbish is Carrie Lam saying!!! Suppressing violence is their top priority. 3 months of rioting. Defacing public and private properties damaged. Protesters fighting police with weapons and even petrol bombs. Yet she calls this suppressing violence. And still proposing a platform for talks. What a joke this HONGKONG leader. Pity the police working for them.
Daniel Tan
Waste of time
Most problems are left behind by uk
It isnt all such.problems
Problems are due to those hidden.hands
Most problems are left behind by uk
It isnt all such.problems
Problems are due to those hidden.hands
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