Hong Kong leader focuses on housing as protesters head for the hills
By Jessie Pang and Clare Jim
Posted on:- September 7, 2019
ricky l
ricky l1 second ago
(1) Despite HK Governor concession to the HK protestors in formally withdrawing the Extradition Bill - they are still not happy and view this as a weakness.
(2) These HK protestors conclude that the more violent they commit - the more HK governor will give in.
(3) Holding a dialogue platform with the moderate HK people should still go on :-
- concentrating on providing affordable public housing
- providing jobs with good pay
- providing affordable healthcare
- providing affordable education
- proping up the Economy
--- This will help to win over the majority of the moderate HK people.
(4) But meanwhile, the Police and the Security Forces must impose strict measures to tackle violent rioters :-
- as vandalism is outrageous
- destroying public property - is damaging taxpayer's property
- beating innocents and police
- carrying weapons, petrol bombs, bricks, poles etc - should be arrested
- illegal protest to disrupt airport services, public services - should be arrested.
(5) If all current security measures are insufficient to restore law and order ---- eventually Emergency Order must be considered.
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ricky l
ricky l1 second ago
(1) Despite HK Governor concession to the HK protestors in formally withdrawing the Extradition Bill - they are still not happy and view this as a weakness.
(2) These HK protestors conclude that the more violent they commit - the more HK governor will give in.
(3) Holding a dialogue platform with the moderate HK people should still go on :-
- concentrating on providing affordable public housing
- providing jobs with good pay
- providing affordable healthcare
- providing affordable education
- proping up the Economy
--- This will help to win over the majority of the moderate HK people.
(4) But meanwhile, the Police and the Security Forces must impose strict measures to tackle violent rioters :-
- as vandalism is outrageous
- destroying public property - is damaging taxpayer's property
- beating innocents and police
- carrying weapons, petrol bombs, bricks, poles etc - should be arrested
- illegal protest to disrupt airport services, public services - should be arrested.
(5) If all current security measures are insufficient to restore law and order ---- eventually Emergency Order must be considered.
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Posted on:- 11 Aug 2019 10:10AM (Updated: 11 Aug 2019 10:59AM)
Ricky Lim
China has “competent, (the) best people” in its government. And over 35 years, the country has lifted 500 million to 600 million people out of poverty, Mr Shanmugam said.
“No country has done that in history, in 35 years,” he said. “Not enough credit is given for that. It’s a huge achievement.”
Could that have been achieved under another system of government? Can another political system do better for the people of China, compared to the current system? There is none – and ideology must square with reality, Mr Shanmugam said.
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Posted on:- 25 Jul 2019 07:01PM (Updated: 25 Jul 2019 07:15PM)
Ricky Lim
(1) In retrospect, these HK black protestors fail to size up the context they are in.
(2) HK is part of China. China will not let HK declare independent - and this HK protestors fool themselves by demanding so.
China will commit troop if these HK protestors force this agenda through --- this is the 1st moment of truth that they must realise and accept.
(3) HK protestors demand that their governor must be elected by universal suffrage.
But HK governor during British time are never voted in - they are appointed by UK.
Similarly, the currect governor are "elected" by a group of committee (improvement from appointment).
So to China - the protestors demand is excessive and unreasonable. ---- this is the 2nd moment of truth.
(4) HK protestors must realise that China will gradually exert influence in HK from now and all the way until 2047 where they will then takeover.
HK protestors must not be naive to think the China will not do anything - and come 2047 - take over in a "cold turkey" manner --- then start to infuse China mainlanders in, China system and law come in - and brawl will broke up ---- as the 2 systems are vastly different from 2 opposing ends. -- this is the 3rd moment of truth.
(5) China will emphasize economy and social well-being like in the mainland --- while enforcing a less open system in politics, where China will put high priority in stability - political stability, social order and economic order - this is the 4th moment of truth that HK people must realise and accept.
(6) If HK protestors fail to accept the above 4 moment of truth ---- the deadlock will continue and the protest will not stop --- until a stronger force come down to restore order.
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Ricky Lim
China has “competent, (the) best people” in its government. And over 35 years, the country has lifted 500 million to 600 million people out of poverty, Mr Shanmugam said.
“No country has done that in history, in 35 years,” he said. “Not enough credit is given for that. It’s a huge achievement.”
Could that have been achieved under another system of government? Can another political system do better for the people of China, compared to the current system? There is none – and ideology must square with reality, Mr Shanmugam said.
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Posted on:- 25 Jul 2019 07:01PM (Updated: 25 Jul 2019 07:15PM)
Ricky Lim
(1) In retrospect, these HK black protestors fail to size up the context they are in.
(2) HK is part of China. China will not let HK declare independent - and this HK protestors fool themselves by demanding so.
China will commit troop if these HK protestors force this agenda through --- this is the 1st moment of truth that they must realise and accept.
(3) HK protestors demand that their governor must be elected by universal suffrage.
But HK governor during British time are never voted in - they are appointed by UK.
Similarly, the currect governor are "elected" by a group of committee (improvement from appointment).
So to China - the protestors demand is excessive and unreasonable. ---- this is the 2nd moment of truth.
(4) HK protestors must realise that China will gradually exert influence in HK from now and all the way until 2047 where they will then takeover.
HK protestors must not be naive to think the China will not do anything - and come 2047 - take over in a "cold turkey" manner --- then start to infuse China mainlanders in, China system and law come in - and brawl will broke up ---- as the 2 systems are vastly different from 2 opposing ends. -- this is the 3rd moment of truth.
(5) China will emphasize economy and social well-being like in the mainland --- while enforcing a less open system in politics, where China will put high priority in stability - political stability, social order and economic order - this is the 4th moment of truth that HK people must realise and accept.
(6) If HK protestors fail to accept the above 4 moment of truth ---- the deadlock will continue and the protest will not stop --- until a stronger force come down to restore order.
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Ricky Lim
(1) There is no right or wrong about a political system - it is whether the Society are ready for it - whether remaining as communism or slowly evolved into democracy.
(2) First and foremost, the Governance must be able to ensure :-
- Political stability
- Social order
- Economic order.
(3) No one can guarantee that a democratic system - will not throw a Society into chaos.
--- We can see many examples of populist, nationalist, protectionist Government on the rise through democracy.
--- Communism also doesn't guarantee success.
(4) But as for now China adopting Communism in politics but market economy in economics seems to work very well for China - as more than 400 million people have been elevated from poverty - and turn China economy to be the 2nd largest Economy in the World - and will likely to become the larget Economy in the World given another decade of economic growth.
(5) I must say that I am not an admirer for Communism - as democracy work for our Country.
But this does not mean that China is ready for democracy at this point in time.
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Ricky Lim
“Hong Kong is part of China. Beijing will expect Hong Kong to adapt to the political structure that prevails in China. Adapt, not adopt," he said.
“Some of the protestors seem to think that China will allow a very different system in Hong Kong. That is wishful thinking replacing reality,” he said. “How will China's leaders look at it?
“You sing the US national anthem, you speak in Mandarin and tell the Chinese tourists to go back and take these ideas back to China. The leaders could think Hong Kong is just the start, for something that some people want to hope to start in the rest of China.”
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Ricky Lim
(1) Communism work for China now - as China is too big and central control works for them.
Else China will end up like USSR - break apart.
(2) As long as China don't export communism to other Countries - it is fine for us.
(3) China has some sort of "democracy" - eg. their leaders are voted by a group of elite party, business, professionals --- but not by their people at large.
(4) It will take time for China to evolve their political system.
But China is not ready for democracy as of now.
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(1) There is no right or wrong about a political system - it is whether the Society are ready for it - whether remaining as communism or slowly evolved into democracy.
(2) First and foremost, the Governance must be able to ensure :-
- Political stability
- Social order
- Economic order.
(3) No one can guarantee that a democratic system - will not throw a Society into chaos.
--- We can see many examples of populist, nationalist, protectionist Government on the rise through democracy.
--- Communism also doesn't guarantee success.
(4) But as for now China adopting Communism in politics but market economy in economics seems to work very well for China - as more than 400 million people have been elevated from poverty - and turn China economy to be the 2nd largest Economy in the World - and will likely to become the larget Economy in the World given another decade of economic growth.
(5) I must say that I am not an admirer for Communism - as democracy work for our Country.
But this does not mean that China is ready for democracy at this point in time.
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Ricky Lim
“Hong Kong is part of China. Beijing will expect Hong Kong to adapt to the political structure that prevails in China. Adapt, not adopt," he said.
“Some of the protestors seem to think that China will allow a very different system in Hong Kong. That is wishful thinking replacing reality,” he said. “How will China's leaders look at it?
“You sing the US national anthem, you speak in Mandarin and tell the Chinese tourists to go back and take these ideas back to China. The leaders could think Hong Kong is just the start, for something that some people want to hope to start in the rest of China.”
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Ricky Lim
(1) Communism work for China now - as China is too big and central control works for them.
Else China will end up like USSR - break apart.
(2) As long as China don't export communism to other Countries - it is fine for us.
(3) China has some sort of "democracy" - eg. their leaders are voted by a group of elite party, business, professionals --- but not by their people at large.
(4) It will take time for China to evolve their political system.
But China is not ready for democracy as of now.
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The spark for the protests was a now-withdrawn extradition bill and concern that Beijing is eroding civil liberties, but many young protesters are also angry at sky-high living costs and a lack of job prospects.
Hong Kong leader Carrie Lam promised to focus on housing and jobs to try to end three months of sometimes violent unrest,
(1) This is the right focus - go straight into the pain point - housing and jobs.
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China has called on its biggest state firms to take a more active role in Hong Kong, including stepping up investment and asserting more control over companies.
(1) This will help to provide more job prospects for HK people.
(2) This will also provide direct control of the rice bowl of common HK people - and thus more likely to associate with (rather than distance from) China mainland.
Hong Kong leader Carrie Lam promised to focus on housing and jobs to try to end three months of sometimes violent unrest,
(1) This is the right focus - go straight into the pain point - housing and jobs.
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China has called on its biggest state firms to take a more active role in Hong Kong, including stepping up investment and asserting more control over companies.
(1) This will help to provide more job prospects for HK people.
(2) This will also provide direct control of the rice bowl of common HK people - and thus more likely to associate with (rather than distance from) China mainland.
Appeasing sounds like using money to trade in your freedom/democracy/rights/universal suffrage, take it or leave it.
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