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(1) Mahathir and Johor leaders - stop telling lie that you only received 3 sens of raw water.
(2) Mahathir and Johor leaders - start to honor all signed international agreement and contract.
This is the actual computation of water price :-
(1) Cost of rain water to Malaysia = RM 0 sen
(2) Malaysia charges Singapore for rain water = RM 3 sen
(3) Singapore cost of treating water = RM$2.40 sen (per 1000 gallons).
(4) Singapore charge Malaysia only = RM$0.50 sen (per 1000 gallons).
(5) Malaysia sells the water to Malaysia consumers = RM$3.60 sen (per 1000 gallons).
(6) Singapore directly subsidises to Malaysia = RM$1.90 sen (per 1000 gallons).
Malaysia does nothing and make = RM$3.10 sen (per 1000 gallons).
(2) Mahathir and Johor leaders - start to honor all signed international agreement and contract.
This is the actual computation of water price :-
(1) Cost of rain water to Malaysia = RM 0 sen
(2) Malaysia charges Singapore for rain water = RM 3 sen
(3) Singapore cost of treating water = RM$2.40 sen (per 1000 gallons).
(4) Singapore charge Malaysia only = RM$0.50 sen (per 1000 gallons).
(5) Malaysia sells the water to Malaysia consumers = RM$3.60 sen (per 1000 gallons).
(6) Singapore directly subsidises to Malaysia = RM$1.90 sen (per 1000 gallons).
Malaysia does nothing and make = RM$3.10 sen (per 1000 gallons).
Ricky Lim
It is morally wrong for Mahathir and Johor leaders - who fail to honour sign agreement - has no moral compass - and a poor role model for his people.
Singaporeans will support the Singapore Government to take Mahathir and the Johor leaders into International Court for breaching the Water Agreement.
Singaporeans will support the Singapore Government to take Mahathir and the Johor leaders into International Court for breaching the Water Agreement.
Can Mahathir and Johor leaders read the below forefront money that we have committed for the water agreement -- instead of harping on the 3 sens :-
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Dr Balakrishnan noted that in 1990, during Dr Mahathir’s first prime ministership, PUB and Johor had signed an agreement to construct the Linggiu Dam to increase the yield of the Johor River.
Johor owns the Linggiu Dam, but Singapore, he said, paid more than S$300 million for its construction and operational costs, as well as compensation for the land used for the Linggiu Reservoir, the potential loss of revenue from logging activities, and as a one-time payment of the lease of that land for the remaining tenure of the 1962 Water Agreement.
“If Malaysia had exercised the right to review the price of water in 1987, Singapore might well have made different investment decisions on developing the Johor River,” he said, pointing out that overall, Singapore has so far spent more than S$1 billion on water projects in Johor.
He said that this has helped to ensure that not only PUB’s waterworks, but Johor’s own waterworks can reliably draw water from the Johor River.
"In this period of dry weather, Singapore continues to provide Johor additional treated water upon their request," he said.
"We do so out of goodwill, without prejudice to our legal rights under the Water Agreement. "
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Dr Balakrishnan noted that in 1990, during Dr Mahathir’s first prime ministership, PUB and Johor had signed an agreement to construct the Linggiu Dam to increase the yield of the Johor River.
Johor owns the Linggiu Dam, but Singapore, he said, paid more than S$300 million for its construction and operational costs, as well as compensation for the land used for the Linggiu Reservoir, the potential loss of revenue from logging activities, and as a one-time payment of the lease of that land for the remaining tenure of the 1962 Water Agreement.
“If Malaysia had exercised the right to review the price of water in 1987, Singapore might well have made different investment decisions on developing the Johor River,” he said, pointing out that overall, Singapore has so far spent more than S$1 billion on water projects in Johor.
He said that this has helped to ensure that not only PUB’s waterworks, but Johor’s own waterworks can reliably draw water from the Johor River.
"In this period of dry weather, Singapore continues to provide Johor additional treated water upon their request," he said.
"We do so out of goodwill, without prejudice to our legal rights under the Water Agreement. "
Soen Seng Thio
Johor draw 16 million gal of treated water which Singapore had subsidised $1.90/1000gal.
Everyday Singapore has been giving$30,400 to Johor.
That works out to $11,096,000 per year.
Everyday Singapore has been giving$30,400 to Johor.
That works out to $11,096,000 per year.
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Ricky Lim
Soen Seng Thio - That is why Singapore should consider hauling Mahathir and these few people into International Courts - for breaching the Water Agreement.
The Courts will let the whole World know how ridiculous and how unreasonable this Mahathir and these few goondos are.
The Courts will let the whole World know how ridiculous and how unreasonable this Mahathir and these few goondos are.
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用李
Who is this ku ku anyway to ask Singaporean & Johorean to not follow the rule of law plus pay more for curry favour statement???
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Luigi Liew
Ricky Lim
Instead of convincing our govt that it morally wrong.g we Singapore must convince and support it is morally very correct to sue Msia until they drop their pants. Msian, if you have grievances why we sue, take it out on M and his Bersatu cretins who are breaking up Msia even from other prospective.
Instead of convincing our govt that it morally wrong.g we Singapore must convince and support it is morally very correct to sue Msia until they drop their pants. Msian, if you have grievances why we sue, take it out on M and his Bersatu cretins who are breaking up Msia even from other prospective.
Paladin Nicholas Lawrence
@Ricky: Thank you for the breakdown of the cost! I've always wanted to know it.
Indeed, how can anyone trust a national leader who signs a trade agreement, then a few years later, threatens to force a change of the terms of the agreement just because he feels like it?
International disgrace.
Indeed, how can anyone trust a national leader who signs a trade agreement, then a few years later, threatens to force a change of the terms of the agreement just because he feels like it?
International disgrace.
Singaporeans should support the Singapore Government - to teach Mahathir, Osman Saipan and this Bersatu’s Johor chapter Mohd Solihan Badr a lesson by :-
(1) Indefinitely postpone billions of dollars of ringgit in Iskandar industrial park investment.
(2) Urge Singapore investment to withdraw and re-invest their business and investment elsewhere
Singapore investment stand at US$26 billion or RM$105.3 billion.
(3) Singaporeans should stop tourism travel of Johor that contribute S$16.5 billion or RM$50 billion to Johor Economy.
For a start, I will like to urge Singaporeans and Singapore business to seriously consider the above measures - to protest Mahathir and these 2 Johor leaders from bullying Singapore - and start to honour international agreement and contracts.
(1) Indefinitely postpone billions of dollars of ringgit in Iskandar industrial park investment.
(2) Urge Singapore investment to withdraw and re-invest their business and investment elsewhere
Singapore investment stand at US$26 billion or RM$105.3 billion.
(3) Singaporeans should stop tourism travel of Johor that contribute S$16.5 billion or RM$50 billion to Johor Economy.
For a start, I will like to urge Singaporeans and Singapore business to seriously consider the above measures - to protest Mahathir and these 2 Johor leaders from bullying Singapore - and start to honour international agreement and contracts.
Swee Meng Ling
LKY already said dont trust their words and dont do the Iskanda industrial park. He had been burned too many time. Lau Goh got burned on his Indonesia-Malaysia-Singapore industrial park when both tried to bypass SGP before it even started. Hope you remember to shout when the wind change next time, and the new gen of powerful civil servants going for the next push.
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Ricky Lim
Swee Meng Ling -
We have invested about US$62 billion in Indonesia in total (much more than our investment in Malaysia of US$26 billion).
Singapore was the largest contributor of foreign investment in Indonesia in 2017, investing US$8.4 billion (S$11 billion), or 26.2 per cent of total foreign investment in Indonesia. The Republic was followed by Japan with US$5 billion and China with US$3.4 billion.
Singapore is doing very well in Indonesia industrial park - the Kendal Industrial Park.
Indonesia’s Industry Minister Airlangga Hartarto said he has offered the development of three industrial estates in the country to Singapore.
Our bi-lateral relationship with Indonesia is extremely well.
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But not with this Mahathir -- who is only good in picking fight.
We should conscientiously reduce investment, tourism, trade and business as long as Mahathir is the PM and who is bent on picking fight with Singapore.
We have invested about US$62 billion in Indonesia in total (much more than our investment in Malaysia of US$26 billion).
Singapore was the largest contributor of foreign investment in Indonesia in 2017, investing US$8.4 billion (S$11 billion), or 26.2 per cent of total foreign investment in Indonesia. The Republic was followed by Japan with US$5 billion and China with US$3.4 billion.
Singapore is doing very well in Indonesia industrial park - the Kendal Industrial Park.
Indonesia’s Industry Minister Airlangga Hartarto said he has offered the development of three industrial estates in the country to Singapore.
Our bi-lateral relationship with Indonesia is extremely well.
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But not with this Mahathir -- who is only good in picking fight.
We should conscientiously reduce investment, tourism, trade and business as long as Mahathir is the PM and who is bent on picking fight with Singapore.
Ricky Lim
Singaporeans is urging Johoreans to reject their leaders like Mahathir, Osman Saipan and this Bersatu’s Johor chapter Mohd Solihan Badr :---
(1) who has no moral values, fail to honor international signed agreements and contracts, failing to respect international law.
(2) who always want to pick fight with his own people like Badawi (accusing him of failing to build crooked bridges), Anwar (jail him for sodomy based on lies and now admit they lies just to nail Anwar) and Najib (accusing him of corruption in 1MDB).
And pick fight with Singapore - who contribute immensely to Johor and Malaysia Economy.
--- Singaporeans urge Johoreans to reject these leaders - who fail to promote friendship, good relationship that will help to promote business, investment, trade, tourism visit, mass rapid transit infrastructure.
But instead pick fight and poison the relationship between Singaporeans and Johoreans --- that hurt the relationship between Singapore, Johor and Malaysia.
Johoreans should reject these few leaders who in fact hurt them.
(1) who has no moral values, fail to honor international signed agreements and contracts, failing to respect international law.
(2) who always want to pick fight with his own people like Badawi (accusing him of failing to build crooked bridges), Anwar (jail him for sodomy based on lies and now admit they lies just to nail Anwar) and Najib (accusing him of corruption in 1MDB).
And pick fight with Singapore - who contribute immensely to Johor and Malaysia Economy.
--- Singaporeans urge Johoreans to reject these leaders - who fail to promote friendship, good relationship that will help to promote business, investment, trade, tourism visit, mass rapid transit infrastructure.
But instead pick fight and poison the relationship between Singaporeans and Johoreans --- that hurt the relationship between Singapore, Johor and Malaysia.
Johoreans should reject these few leaders who in fact hurt them.
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Ricky Lim
Under Mahathir as prime minister --- you see what he did to Malaysia finances :-
"sovereign wealth fund Khazanah had incurred more than RM6 billion (US$1.46 billion) in losses."
in just 1 year when he take over.
And Mahathir need to sell many sovereign fund assets - to finance his huge budget deficit.
Now Mahathir try to divert attention - of this fail policy in revitalising malaysia economy and finance --- and deliberately want to pick fight with Singapore.
Johoreans should reject Mahathir, Osman Saipan and this Bersatu’s Johor chapter Mohd Solihan Badr -- who only good at playing games --- but fail to contribute positively to the economy.
Malaysians should demand Mahathir to step down as prime minister --- he is harming malaysia.
"sovereign wealth fund Khazanah had incurred more than RM6 billion (US$1.46 billion) in losses."
in just 1 year when he take over.
And Mahathir need to sell many sovereign fund assets - to finance his huge budget deficit.
Now Mahathir try to divert attention - of this fail policy in revitalising malaysia economy and finance --- and deliberately want to pick fight with Singapore.
Johoreans should reject Mahathir, Osman Saipan and this Bersatu’s Johor chapter Mohd Solihan Badr -- who only good at playing games --- but fail to contribute positively to the economy.
Malaysians should demand Mahathir to step down as prime minister --- he is harming malaysia.
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Ricky Lim
It is just a shameful gimmick to "beg and extort for more money" ---- by attempting to break a signed international agreement.
Mahathir, Osman Saipan and this Bersatu’s Johor chapter Mohd Solihan Badri - are just shameful in the eyes of the World.
Disgracing all Malaysians - for attempting such gangster style begging and extorting more money.
Make Malaysians' faces "so low", "no faces" - in the eyes of the World (下贱）（不要脸）。
Mahathir, Osman Saipan and this Bersatu’s Johor chapter Mohd Solihan Badri - are just shameful in the eyes of the World.
Disgracing all Malaysians - for attempting such gangster style begging and extorting more money.
Make Malaysians' faces "so low", "no faces" - in the eyes of the World (下贱）（不要脸）。
A Ganapathy A Ganapathy
This assemblyman you need ask whether he understand what is dam brain talking about, please flush your brain with this water, than you know whether it's cheap or not.
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Vincent Tan
Dr Balakrishnan had added that in 2002, Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad said the country did not ask for a review when it was due as it knew that any revision would also affect the price of treated water.
https://www.tnp.sg/.../mfa-malaysia-lost-right-review...
https://www.tnp.sg/.../mfa-malaysia-lost-right-review...
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Joe Joe Bing
1. It is not morally wrong to continue to uphold the agreement signed years ago.
2. It is conceivable that Singapore government may pay more but the new price should not be stipulated as an entitlement. Singapore government (and people) may give a price raise as a sign of good will and brotherhood
3. Singapore will then raise price of the treated water sold to Johor. It is only logical that we stop subsidising the price of treated water to Johor.
4. Mishaps with water shortage is not due to the water price. It is due to weather patterns and water management (of Johor). Having lots of raw water does not mean Johor will not suffer.
5. There is no bundle deals. History and current situations have clearly told Singaporeans that Malaysia is not sincere in reaching a win-win agreement. They seem to want the cake and eat it too.
6. Singapore will dismantle and decommission all water treatment centers if Johor stops water supply unilaterally. Or, Johor may choose to pay back all investments and cannot say they have no money.
7. Johor must spell out how the additional money earned through a price increase will benefit the Johor common people. Or will this profit go into the pockets of a select few people?
8. I can also be a minister. Right?
2. It is conceivable that Singapore government may pay more but the new price should not be stipulated as an entitlement. Singapore government (and people) may give a price raise as a sign of good will and brotherhood
3. Singapore will then raise price of the treated water sold to Johor. It is only logical that we stop subsidising the price of treated water to Johor.
4. Mishaps with water shortage is not due to the water price. It is due to weather patterns and water management (of Johor). Having lots of raw water does not mean Johor will not suffer.
5. There is no bundle deals. History and current situations have clearly told Singaporeans that Malaysia is not sincere in reaching a win-win agreement. They seem to want the cake and eat it too.
6. Singapore will dismantle and decommission all water treatment centers if Johor stops water supply unilaterally. Or, Johor may choose to pay back all investments and cannot say they have no money.
7. Johor must spell out how the additional money earned through a price increase will benefit the Johor common people. Or will this profit go into the pockets of a select few people?
8. I can also be a minister. Right?
Andrew Soh
Does anyone know how much does it take for Malaysia to treat their own water? Why do they need us to treat the water. If they can treat their water at less than what we sell back to them, then what is stopping them from doing so.
Excuse me Mr Bersatu Malaysian, Singaporeans don't feel guilty that they are enjoying drinking water that have bought so cheaply from Malaysia. Singaporeans are one happy go lucky people and will pay water prices set by the government. Singaporeans will not go to the extend to protest even it is painful. Their only hope is the recycled water which is plenty at home when they flush and so no need Johore water. Mr Bersatu you can potong the water pipe if you like. We are so happy with the plentiful Newater as long we flush.
If you help us reduce water prices we get from govn, we can consider raising the issue.govn srlling us eater very expensive
Govn selling us water very expensive.. typo error esrlier comment
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Engchai Tan
Don’t Mahathir has other agenda to made Malaysia prosperous, beside THIS water issue?
Bring up this issue now and again is very tiring for both countries.
Bring up this issue now and again is very tiring for both countries.
Sharil Bin Saharudin
Its clear by now that Mahdey is not going to abandoned his zero-sum, 'beggar-thy-neighbour' approach to the water negotiations.
His insidious, constant harping of 3 sen/kilomgd of raw water, half-truth is galling proof of this.
At 1st, Iwas willing to be more than fair and look favorably at their demand, but given their constant harping of half-truths...well not anymore.
So I urge our delegation at the talks, to not make a single concession on the water agreements until the other side agree to come to the table on the basis of 'win-win' for all parties.
After all, wat can they do? Tear off the agreements? They are well aware of the repercussions facing them if they do so. Else, they would have done so long ago.
So negotiate if you want but dont entertain any ideas of concessions until they adopt a 'give-and-take' approach for the benefit of all parties.
His insidious, constant harping of 3 sen/kilomgd of raw water, half-truth is galling proof of this.
At 1st, Iwas willing to be more than fair and look favorably at their demand, but given their constant harping of half-truths...well not anymore.
So I urge our delegation at the talks, to not make a single concession on the water agreements until the other side agree to come to the table on the basis of 'win-win' for all parties.
After all, wat can they do? Tear off the agreements? They are well aware of the repercussions facing them if they do so. Else, they would have done so long ago.
So negotiate if you want but dont entertain any ideas of concessions until they adopt a 'give-and-take' approach for the benefit of all parties.
Norah Arc
The argument in it most fundamental form, stripping away the subsequent souped up conniving gains, is a set of agreement between two parties in which a precious resource has been turned into massive profit at the expense of the other. What was or had began in “humane value” has been contorted into an “inhumane merchandise” by greed and self interests. It appears righteous, from a business perspective only but far from righteous, as a steward.
Luigi Liew
Mahatir and your Bersatu cretins, we Singaporeans are much more intellectual and intelligent. So back off and stay home and play your own politics within your own boundaries.
Sim Hwee Kwan
If your government can’t even able to manage your country properly, please don’t come and tell what others countries ought to do ethically base on your own assumption
Anonei Antunei
Spore just have to be patient.. its matter of time..hell door is already wide open awaiting to burn this evil.. envious..greedy serpent.
I think the next PM could not be as bad the mothers of all HYPOCRITE
I really feel sorry for Msia to be cheated a 2nd time by this 2timet
I think the next PM could not be as bad the mothers of all HYPOCRITE
I really feel sorry for Msia to be cheated a 2nd time by this 2timet
I. HOPE
You need to back to school Dr.M and learn the meaning of "MORAL".Is racial discrimination,cronism,kleptocracy,corruption & cheating moral? Use words you fully understand & do not shoot your own foot! Some other words you should learn is "STUPIDITY, HONOUR, INTEGRITY,SHAME & INCOHERENT!
When you know & understand all these words then call yourself a "Doctor". Now you sound & behave like a "QUACK DOCTOR"! KIP "kick in peace" to the PH government!
When you know & understand all these words then call yourself a "Doctor". Now you sound & behave like a "QUACK DOCTOR"! KIP "kick in peace" to the PH government!
Christopher Bong
If Malaysia find it ludicrous to pay 50 sen per 1,000 gallons of potable water then why don’t they clean the raw water themselves to see if it is any cheaper.
Brian Soh
There are no kinship when you gotten the water for free and charged us for it's use. Singaporeans will never back away/down from this issue as it is an Agreement that seals our sovereignty.
I suggest Johore to break away and form their independence, kick out those useless malay chiefs and instill confidence back to the people.
Singaporeans should immediately stop patronising Malaysia unless it is for business.
I suggest Johore to break away and form their independence, kick out those useless malay chiefs and instill confidence back to the people.
Singaporeans should immediately stop patronising Malaysia unless it is for business.
Georgie Tan
I think he is a dog runner for JBCM. The FAKER is so quiet now.
Pher Kim Huat
You're right, those fakers are queit now. As the saying goes : "xie bu shen Zhen" (wicked & evil cannot beat upright & straight).
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Shooter Shoot
Starts Talking Cxxk again.
Just admit that your PH govern.cannot managed Malaysia economy . Getting from Bad to Worst. There is no problem for last 50 years, why now ??
We Singaporean will not support you. not because to increase the water price, it is because the way you Old Man 93 TREATED Singapore . Just Remove this old man 93 from PM Seat, things then can be discuss.
Just admit that your PH govern.cannot managed Malaysia economy . Getting from Bad to Worst. There is no problem for last 50 years, why now ??
We Singaporean will not support you. not because to increase the water price, it is because the way you Old Man 93 TREATED Singapore . Just Remove this old man 93 from PM Seat, things then can be discuss.
Pher Kim Huat
Now the whole world is watching or laughing to see the "low or sub-standard quality" of all these new "political opportunists" making a mockery of themselves just to please the vintage poisonous Old M with this current media director of Bersatu in Solihan Bad-i blurting out those "rubbish comments".
These bunch of "opportunists" are just blindly follow or to an extent of "sucking the poisonous DNA from the vintage Old M" without feeling guilty nor having any conscience at all.
Not sure if they passed their English when their standard is so low that they totally distort the actaul meanings of words like "morally wrong", "conscience", "guilty", "ludicrous", etc and use them in a "morally wrong" way just to score political points or to be noticed by the vintage Old M. They are actually "speaking for themselves" as these words are supposed to be used on them not on S'pore side.
S'poreans & our leaders need to be fim and united to tackle these kind of ungrateful, inhumane, lawless, crude and "morally wrong" people who are still practising "jungle laws" even in this 21st century .
These bunch of "opportunists" are just blindly follow or to an extent of "sucking the poisonous DNA from the vintage Old M" without feeling guilty nor having any conscience at all.
Not sure if they passed their English when their standard is so low that they totally distort the actaul meanings of words like "morally wrong", "conscience", "guilty", "ludicrous", etc and use them in a "morally wrong" way just to score political points or to be noticed by the vintage Old M. They are actually "speaking for themselves" as these words are supposed to be used on them not on S'pore side.
S'poreans & our leaders need to be fim and united to tackle these kind of ungrateful, inhumane, lawless, crude and "morally wrong" people who are still practising "jungle laws" even in this 21st century .
Tan Wee Tong
Why should we feel guilty? It was an agreement and if amendment needed don't you think as a high official and educated need to find a way to re negotiate on terms and conditions instead of playing with public emotions for your popularity, one following another repeating the same old line. It is so unbecoming as a leader crying out playing with public sentiment hoping to gain support tell ING your people you are doing your job. Don't u know how to be a leader and find ways of solving rather then crying out. Maybe you are trying to create a public demonstration to gain support. Why cantcan't you bloody turn of the tap as threaten so many times before. Then we will also turn of the clean drinking water to you. We feel guilty if we turn of the clean water.
Soon Hoe Quah
""It is even more ludicrous that we are buying back this treated water from Singapore at the rate of 50 sen per 1,000 gallons,” he said.""
You fool, the cost of water treatment is more than 50 sen. That's why you can sell treated water to Malaysians at RM3.95 making a profit of RM3.45(700% profit). Do you even know maths or Malaysian education syllabus doesn't include this subject. In any case, why do you think the Johor Sultan( a generous and fair person ) has not said anything? In fact his son, TMJ Sultan Ismail, even thanked Singapore for always acceding to Johor's requests for supplying more treated water in times of need and wished for the good friendship between Singapore and Johor to last forever. Therefore Solihan Badri, can we Singaporeans instead ask you to tell your Bersatu chairman to stop this personal vendetta against Singapore. His bitterness in not being able to develop his country like LKY is not our problem!!! Faham!!!
You fool, the cost of water treatment is more than 50 sen. That's why you can sell treated water to Malaysians at RM3.95 making a profit of RM3.45(700% profit). Do you even know maths or Malaysian education syllabus doesn't include this subject. In any case, why do you think the Johor Sultan( a generous and fair person ) has not said anything? In fact his son, TMJ Sultan Ismail, even thanked Singapore for always acceding to Johor's requests for supplying more treated water in times of need and wished for the good friendship between Singapore and Johor to last forever. Therefore Solihan Badri, can we Singaporeans instead ask you to tell your Bersatu chairman to stop this personal vendetta against Singapore. His bitterness in not being able to develop his country like LKY is not our problem!!! Faham!!!
Andrew Tan
The water agreements sign on 1962 and expiry on 2061 not in force then why the old sly fox and the brainless and useless CHEAP minister of johor and the so call bersatu director barking for what refer to the agreement then negotiate and u mean water draw from the johor river without treatment can consume all those Johor brainless and useless head don utter nonsense and negotiate when the water agreements expiring and no barking all the time
Kwai Meng Tang
Dr M, how can it be Malaysia a land abundance oil rich country be poorer than a land scared zero natural resource country like Singapore? 5 of the top richest countries in the world have black gold (oil) and our neighbor Brunei is in
the top 5 richest country in the world. And may be it is not what you have that makes your country difference from Brunei but the people and especially the politicians that made the difference. Poorer!
the top 5 richest country in the world. And may be it is not what you have that makes your country difference from Brunei but the people and especially the politicians that made the difference. Poorer!
Aiyo..why nah..n..nah.. just divorce your hopeless husband and marry your rich neighbour.. everything settle ..liao..
if PAP pay more than 3 sen
I will not vote for them
I will not vote for them
What about CLOB, we never forgot.
Sharil Bin Saharudin
Solihin Badri. Isn it morally wrong to disregard agreements whenever one of the terms become inconvenient to you? Is that permissible in your religion to break covenants?
Oso isnt it morally wrong to argue using half-truths like 3sen/mgd of raw water and disregard the other facts like buying back 50 sen of treated water and then marked up to your consumers at RM$3.60?
Or we provide extra supplies of treated water in access of the agreement without extra charges?
Or the billion dollar treatment facilities have and will be handed to Johore, FOC?
You go and put these questions to your real bosskau, the Sultan and people of Johore, and not that Mahdey, ok?
Oso isnt it morally wrong to argue using half-truths like 3sen/mgd of raw water and disregard the other facts like buying back 50 sen of treated water and then marked up to your consumers at RM$3.60?
Or we provide extra supplies of treated water in access of the agreement without extra charges?
Or the billion dollar treatment facilities have and will be handed to Johore, FOC?
You go and put these questions to your real bosskau, the Sultan and people of Johore, and not that Mahdey, ok?
We are increasing supplying treated drinking water to JB at heavily subsidied below cost price. However the local have to paid water conservation tax, tariff and water price is up by 30%. Now our water treatment company is going belly up and Tusaspring is at risk of fallen into the hand of foreign creditor. All these simply mean local is subsidising JB for drinking water and yet the desalination plant are going to them as Maybank is the creditor
Siew Chin Pang
Hodor crown Prince has already gave Mahatir the answere, why he still barking like a dog.
Mohd Solihan (Maybe another FAKE guy)
Is your govt willing to pay for the more than $1 billion spent on various water projects in Johor since you want to change the agreement signed? To be fair the 1990 contract need to be changed right? Singaporean will never support your crying and begging. You should ask Mad dog to shut up and do not used relative or friend of Singaporean to tell us your stupid story. Our moral standing on the issue is CLEAR.
“Do you not feel guilty that you are enjoying CLEAN drinking water that you have bought so cheaply from Singapore". 50 sen cannot buy a cup of coffee in JB and you also charge Johorean for much more then you pay.
Is your govt willing to pay for the more than $1 billion spent on various water projects in Johor since you want to change the agreement signed? To be fair the 1990 contract need to be changed right? Singaporean will never support your crying and begging. You should ask Mad dog to shut up and do not used relative or friend of Singaporean to tell us your stupid story. Our moral standing on the issue is CLEAR.
“Do you not feel guilty that you are enjoying CLEAN drinking water that you have bought so cheaply from Singapore". 50 sen cannot buy a cup of coffee in JB and you also charge Johorean for much more then you pay.
Danial Fernando
"Thanks" to those Malaysians working in Singapore for blindly voting PH and Mahathir government which is now causing a strain in our bilateral ties unlike during Najib Razak's BN administration whom has been very diplomatic with the world and brought many investments.
Those Malaysians working here please don't complain when you will be send home packing if the 2 countries relationship sours because of Mahathir and PH bullying tactics on Singapore.
Those Malaysians working here please don't complain when you will be send home packing if the 2 countries relationship sours because of Mahathir and PH bullying tactics on Singapore.
Joseph Lim
Halo, u sc£_w us up on the HSR. U KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY SG GOVT SPEND ON THAT STUPID PROJECT. It is our tax payers money. Ever since the old snake come into the picture, it's been non stop stirring of trouble. First, it's the JB port limits, cancel or postpone HSR, seletar airport issue( in the end you sarbotage your own Msian airlines Firefly) and now this water issue..... What's next??
Singapore is a rich nation. But that does not mean u can rip us off and not honour the agreement. An agreement is an agreement. Honour the agreement.
Singapore is a rich nation. But that does not mean u can rip us off and not honour the agreement. An agreement is an agreement. Honour the agreement.
Let's check they are from which University. Are they qualified? May be all are fake. Ha! Ha!
Once their Education Minister said this:
If they keep accepting second grade people into their University, they will always get the second class Government. Looks like all this are true.
Once their Education Minister said this:
If they keep accepting second grade people into their University, they will always get the second class Government. Looks like all this are true.
Lance C Alta
OK Lor! Pls use your Sixth sense and we will pay you Six cents instead of 3 sens.
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Sandy Tan
read the whole story from the start then u understand.dont always 1cent 3sen rich nation poor nation ,why poor ask yourself u have tin rubber oil palmoil that enough to make u rich WHY WHY WHY.
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Raymond Goh
Malaysians got to rally against your Old Dog PM for speaking nonsense that may cause chaos to your country. Also all the ministers with fake degrees to be removed and replaced by more professional people in order to run your country especially those currently in Besatu cos all are rubbush including the old dog and his son whom is an idiot . In order for Malaysia to move forward.Besatu party must be omitted as they possess rubbish people whom are lairs and without integrity.
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Frank Kam
To Mr Mohr Solihan - Where were you when Najib was so called plundering the wealth of your country ???!!! Why now you suddenly awaken ???? 'Kalau sudah bodoh...jagan sekarang make tenjukan kepandaian yang tidak ada di dalam otak mu ... !!!!!'
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Georgie Tan
This idiot is asking Singaporean to fight Singapore Govt for staying firm. Can I ask the Malaysian to fight their Mad Dog and Johor BERSATU Govt for causing trouble to SG and maybe costing their job in SG. Where to earn $1 to exchange for RM3. Can give their family good life and buy big house.
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Eddie Wong
Ask Mahathir to return us our CLOB money.
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Sandy Tan
cannon cannon cannon all free it does'nt hurt no offence next election roti prata turn bye bye ,no wrong what, bcos not elected mah .the story go into his story[history]
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Niko Nishi
If your govt is not capable of doing the job, just replace them just like you have done to the previous govt. There is no free lunch to be had.
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Guna Shekeran Vijayan
After asking Johoreans, now asking Sporeans to pressure the govt to pay more for water. It is their own doing that they are in this state and they should morally appreciate Spore is supplying them water in times of need. Even if they bring up to lCJ they got no case as the water agreement is internationally legal documents.
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Kwai Meng Tang
Is Dr. M implying Singapore became a rich country because of the 3 sen Malaysia is selling their water to us? Actually Malaysia by all accounts should be richer than Singapore, like their middle east counterparts Malaysia has " black gold (oil)". Together with Indonesia, Malaysia produce 90% of palm oil in the world. How could they not be richer than Singapore you wonder?
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Pigmoon K
Stupid or retarded? Choose 1 pls!!!
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Joyce Lim
Since we are good neighbors and family, water comes from the sky - free of charge. Do you think it is morally wrong to charge if it is free in charge in the first place... maybe it should be free instead
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Wee Beng
If Singapore is subsidizing Malaysia on treated water, should we be asking ourselves why are we doing that? Can the money be put to better use within Singapore instead, like delaying GST hike?
Singapore and Malaysia can meet and come to a conclsuion on the penalty for breaking the contractual agreement. Unless we are self-sufficient, the penalty will likely be paid back to Malaysia based on the new water price.
It makes one think if this has to do with Tuaspring with Maybank been the biggest creditor.
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Zulfikah Muhd
We sold TREATED WATER to malaysia at a subsidised price, their government marked-up the price of water to its citizens and now it’s our problem/fault ?!!! The only one that is benefiting is the malaysian government.. Come on. 50 sen/ 1000 gallon of treated water is more than generous lah please
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Carol Tan
Bad leadership, leads to poor nation. Don't try to use some stir up words to break the peace between neighbours, after all we can buy other waters from other country. We also can choose not to supply back waters at cheap rate but sold to other counties for better trade.
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陈别问
This guy must hv taken wrong medicines, who does he think he is? y shld Singaporeans listen to him? This is not abt conscience, it is abt being respectful to the agreement that had been signed, abt national sovereignty of Singapore, it is not negotiable.
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Winston Ling
Actually i dont feel guilty at all, its all because back in 1962, some people in Malaysia didnt think FAR ahead about inflation and set the price to last until 2061. Which i didnt think anyone will set a price to last 99 years. so they can only blame their ancestors back then i guess.
I guess they can now only tell their grand children to dont forgot to adjust the pricing in 2061. but by 2061, maybe singapore will be self-sufficiant and not need to buy raw water anymore. Until than, see you in 2061.
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Kelvyn Chin
Hey Nobody is forcing you Johorean to buy back the water at a (ludicrously) cheap price of 50sen per mgd. Don't buy the treated water from us then! What's the problem? As for the 3 sen per mgd river water, that is a deal since the 60s and a deal is a deal. Stop being a sycophant to further your own political agenda, that is also morally wrong.
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