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Ricky Lim
(1) Imagine someone make a post in social media - coaxing people to pelt someone with eggs when he appear in a scheduled event.
(2) 100 people responded by turning up with eggs - to make good the "joke".
(3) The person could be anyone of us.
(4) Do you think this person under threat is justified to report a case to the police - as his safety is under threat?
(2) 100 people responded by turning up with eggs - to make good the "joke".
(3) The person could be anyone of us.
(4) Do you think this person under threat is justified to report a case to the police - as his safety is under threat?
Ricky Lim
Advice given by criminal lawyers :-
Threats of bodily harm and physical violence can land one in hot soup, so watch what you say or type over the internet.
Pursuant to section 503 of the Penal Code, whoever threatens to either inflict injury to another person or damage his property with an intention to cause alarm to the victim, or to compel the victim to do something (or not do something), commits the offence of criminal intimidation.
Pursuant to section 506 of the Penal Code, criminal intimidation (involving threats of physical violence) is punishable with a jail term of up to 2 years, or a fine, or both.
Threats of bodily harm and physical violence can land one in hot soup, so watch what you say or type over the internet.
Pursuant to section 503 of the Penal Code, whoever threatens to either inflict injury to another person or damage his property with an intention to cause alarm to the victim, or to compel the victim to do something (or not do something), commits the offence of criminal intimidation.
Pursuant to section 506 of the Penal Code, criminal intimidation (involving threats of physical violence) is punishable with a jail term of up to 2 years, or a fine, or both.
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Jack Sparroww
Stop 'imagining' cases Ricky. Talk after it has happened. I'm sure you can remember many scenarios where your pimp garmen only took action after someone died lol. Want a recent example? Marine Parade roundabout? Why you never use your wonderful imagination earlier for the roundabout?
(1) As Singaporeans, being a law abiding citizens - can we condone the threat of unlawful and disorderly behavior?
(2) As parents, and role model for our children - do we justify unlawful, disorderly and violent behavior by agreeing to incite bodily intimidation to hurt someone? Then we will be a poor role model for our children.
Since when Singaporeans has disintegrated to such state whereby we don't know what is right and what is wrong?
We should be shameful of ourselves - if we justify unlawful behavior as right behavior in Singapore society - in which we so proudly upheld as lawful, orderly, safe and good place to live in.
For those who still insist and unashamely justify such actions as correct behavior --- the majority of Singaporeans should rebuke them and if they turn it into action - should not hesitate to report them to the police.
Else gangsterism and hooliganism of 1960s will come back to haunt us.
Mr Lee Kuan Yew clamp down gangsterism and hooliganism with an "iron fist" - and make Singapore a safe and ordely place to live in.
We must not let social media disrupt our orderly social fabric - and let it degenerate into "herd gangsterism".
Singapore has no place for intimidation, hooliganism, gangsterism, violence and unlawful disorderly behavior.
(2) As parents, and role model for our children - do we justify unlawful, disorderly and violent behavior by agreeing to incite bodily intimidation to hurt someone? Then we will be a poor role model for our children.
Since when Singaporeans has disintegrated to such state whereby we don't know what is right and what is wrong?
We should be shameful of ourselves - if we justify unlawful behavior as right behavior in Singapore society - in which we so proudly upheld as lawful, orderly, safe and good place to live in.
For those who still insist and unashamely justify such actions as correct behavior --- the majority of Singaporeans should rebuke them and if they turn it into action - should not hesitate to report them to the police.
Else gangsterism and hooliganism of 1960s will come back to haunt us.
Mr Lee Kuan Yew clamp down gangsterism and hooliganism with an "iron fist" - and make Singapore a safe and ordely place to live in.
We must not let social media disrupt our orderly social fabric - and let it degenerate into "herd gangsterism".
Singapore has no place for intimidation, hooliganism, gangsterism, violence and unlawful disorderly behavior.
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Evernal Sue
Ricky Lim "Since when Singaporeans has disintegrated to such state whereby we don't know what is right and what is wrong?"
Since the time when ppl sent death threats to pj thum, kirsten han, jolovan wham after shanmugam shared seah kian peng's assertion that pj thum wants dr m to bring democracy to singapore
Yes, we should be ashamed that ppl would make police report about wanting to throw eggs (which was a figure of speech btw, and not literal) but when more serious things like death threats.....nothing done.
Since the time when ppl sent death threats to pj thum, kirsten han, jolovan wham after shanmugam shared seah kian peng's assertion that pj thum wants dr m to bring democracy to singapore
Yes, we should be ashamed that ppl would make police report about wanting to throw eggs (which was a figure of speech btw, and not literal) but when more serious things like death threats.....nothing done.
Evernal Sue -
(1) If a death threat is made - did those people make a police report?
If yes, I am sure police will investigate.
(2) But when this people collaborate with foreigners in an attempt to destablise our Country and harm our National interest - should they also be investigated for treason?
Look at what Mahathir has done to Singapore now.
Are you one of them who are championing their cause to harm Singapore?
This will be a more serious case - compare to "egg throwing".
Under the Sedition Act (Singapore)
3.— (1) A seditious tendency is a tendency —
(a) to bring into hatred or contempt or to excite disaffection against the Government;
(b) to excite the citizens of Singapore or the residents in Singapore to attempt to procure in Singapore, the alteration, otherwise than by lawful means, of any matter as by law established;
(c) to bring into hatred or contempt or to excite disaffection against the administration of justice in Singapore;
(d) to raise discontent or disaffection amongst the citizens of Singapore or the residents in Singapore;
(e) to promote feelings of ill-will and hostility between different races or classes of the population of Singapore.
(1) If a death threat is made - did those people make a police report?
If yes, I am sure police will investigate.
(2) But when this people collaborate with foreigners in an attempt to destablise our Country and harm our National interest - should they also be investigated for treason?
Look at what Mahathir has done to Singapore now.
Are you one of them who are championing their cause to harm Singapore?
This will be a more serious case - compare to "egg throwing".
Under the Sedition Act (Singapore)
3.— (1) A seditious tendency is a tendency —
(a) to bring into hatred or contempt or to excite disaffection against the Government;
(b) to excite the citizens of Singapore or the residents in Singapore to attempt to procure in Singapore, the alteration, otherwise than by lawful means, of any matter as by law established;
(c) to bring into hatred or contempt or to excite disaffection against the administration of justice in Singapore;
(d) to raise discontent or disaffection amongst the citizens of Singapore or the residents in Singapore;
(e) to promote feelings of ill-will and hostility between different races or classes of the population of Singapore.
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Dave Choy
Jack Sparroww you can link a road accident to this...wow, such imagination
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Evernal Sue
Ricky Lim the nothing done i'm referring is people who read or know about the death threats but did nothing. Now that u know, will u make a police report on behalf on pj thum and others?? If you don't then like you said, you should be ashamed of yourself. I can provide u with the screenshots of the death threats for you to make the police report. PM me on FB for it
(2) Where's your proof that pj thum and others collaborated with foreigners in an attempt to destablise our Country and harm our National interest?? Your're just asserting like seah kian peng right?? SHould u and seah kian peng be investigated for defamation also??
“take leadership in South-east Asia for the promotion of democracy" = collaborated with foreigners in an attempt to destablise singapore? Unless u tell me u were a fly on the wall when pj thum met dr m and heard specifically that pj thum invited dr m to bring democracy to singapore, anything else is just conjecture and assumption.
(2) Where's your proof that pj thum and others collaborated with foreigners in an attempt to destablise our Country and harm our National interest?? Your're just asserting like seah kian peng right?? SHould u and seah kian peng be investigated for defamation also??
“take leadership in South-east Asia for the promotion of democracy" = collaborated with foreigners in an attempt to destablise singapore? Unless u tell me u were a fly on the wall when pj thum met dr m and heard specifically that pj thum invited dr m to bring democracy to singapore, anything else is just conjecture and assumption.
Ricky Lim
Evernal Sue -
(1) If you have the screenshot - why are you not making a police report for investigation on their behalf? The police will certainly investigate the death threat.
But Why send it to me - I am not interested in this group and their cause.
If you are so concern about them - you should take this up.
The Police will also be interested in your identity as well.
(2) why are your say group of friends did not come back to Singapore to de-proof Mr Seah's claim or sue for defamation? Why are they hiding?
The content written by this group infringe Singapore Sovereignty and Constitution as an Independent Nation - calling Singapore is still a part of Malaysia.
This will have infringe the Sedition Act (Singapore).
Ah just recall that jolovan wham - has been slapped with 7 charges for Contempt of Courts, vandalism and other charges.
Also recall that pj thum provide false credential in a public hearing --- and certainly the Authority are also looking for him.
(1) If you have the screenshot - why are you not making a police report for investigation on their behalf? The police will certainly investigate the death threat.
But Why send it to me - I am not interested in this group and their cause.
If you are so concern about them - you should take this up.
The Police will also be interested in your identity as well.
(2) why are your say group of friends did not come back to Singapore to de-proof Mr Seah's claim or sue for defamation? Why are they hiding?
The content written by this group infringe Singapore Sovereignty and Constitution as an Independent Nation - calling Singapore is still a part of Malaysia.
This will have infringe the Sedition Act (Singapore).
Ah just recall that jolovan wham - has been slapped with 7 charges for Contempt of Courts, vandalism and other charges.
Also recall that pj thum provide false credential in a public hearing --- and certainly the Authority are also looking for him.
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Ricky Lim
Evernal Sue - BTW, why don't you send me your identity.
You can post it here.
You can post it here.
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Evernal Sue
Ricky Lim You are the one who said that the majority of Singaporeans should rebuke people and should not hesitate to report to the police if there are unlawful behaviour not me. So why are you hesitating?? You not part of the majority? Or u dun practise what you preach?
Dun hesitate to report them for infringing the Sedition Act as well if u have proof. And btw, only pj thum wrote that, and not the others, why lump them all together?? And lump me in together as well, assuming i'm their friend. Pls stop assuming, it's very narrow minded to think that just becos someone is not with you, that somone must be with them.
Ooh, i can play this game as well. PM Lee did not sue LHY and States Times Review's Alex tan for their allegations; what is PM Lee hiding??
Is treason among the charges that wham is facing? what does false credential have to do with infringing sedition act or collusion or whatever other baseless charges u want to put on thum? the authority are looking thum?? for what?? what did you get that from??
It's rich of you to demand my identity when you do not provide much as well on your fb bio. PLs report thum and others to the police if you really think they infringed sedition act. The police will also be interested in your identity as well.
Dun hesitate to report them for infringing the Sedition Act as well if u have proof. And btw, only pj thum wrote that, and not the others, why lump them all together?? And lump me in together as well, assuming i'm their friend. Pls stop assuming, it's very narrow minded to think that just becos someone is not with you, that somone must be with them.
Ooh, i can play this game as well. PM Lee did not sue LHY and States Times Review's Alex tan for their allegations; what is PM Lee hiding??
Is treason among the charges that wham is facing? what does false credential have to do with infringing sedition act or collusion or whatever other baseless charges u want to put on thum? the authority are looking thum?? for what?? what did you get that from??
It's rich of you to demand my identity when you do not provide much as well on your fb bio. PLs report thum and others to the police if you really think they infringed sedition act. The police will also be interested in your identity as well.
Alvin Leong
Ricky Lim Wah, you solid lah. First you said people who are aware of death threats being made should report police and then when you are made aware of such threats, you said you have no interest in this group. Double standards much?
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Ricky Lim
Evernal Sue -
(1) I have some screenshots of PJ Thum and Teo Soh Lung posting in their facebook - that say " “Selamat Hari Merdeka to the people of the former Federation of Malaya”, and suggested that Singaporeans should also rejoice on that day since it was Singapore’s “unofficial independence day”;
“Singapore is part of Malaya la”.
This infringe Singapore Sedition Act - that Singapore is an independent Sovereign Nation and Constitution as Republic of Singapore.
(2) Singaporean exile Tan Wah Piow, historian Thum Ping-tjin and activists Jolovan Wham, Sonny Liew and Kirsten Han - met Mahathir and invite Dr M to bring democracy to Singapore, and suggest that Singapore is part of Malaya.
This are activities infringing the Singapore Sedition Act.
(3) As you have the screenshots of the "death threat" on this group of people and seems to be their sympathiser, I will need your identity - so that when investigation is made about their "suspected Sedition activities", you can provide evidence of the "death threat" that are made to them.
(4) Submitting false credential for a public hearing is an offence under the Penal Code. I don't have the information about what false credential PJ Thum has submitted except reading through the press - I leave it to the Authority to take it up.
(5) Please provide information of their whereabout (whether are they still in Singapore or they are living overseas) - if you have the information.
You can post your identity and their information here.
(1) I have some screenshots of PJ Thum and Teo Soh Lung posting in their facebook - that say " “Selamat Hari Merdeka to the people of the former Federation of Malaya”, and suggested that Singaporeans should also rejoice on that day since it was Singapore’s “unofficial independence day”;
“Singapore is part of Malaya la”.
This infringe Singapore Sedition Act - that Singapore is an independent Sovereign Nation and Constitution as Republic of Singapore.
(2) Singaporean exile Tan Wah Piow, historian Thum Ping-tjin and activists Jolovan Wham, Sonny Liew and Kirsten Han - met Mahathir and invite Dr M to bring democracy to Singapore, and suggest that Singapore is part of Malaya.
This are activities infringing the Singapore Sedition Act.
(3) As you have the screenshots of the "death threat" on this group of people and seems to be their sympathiser, I will need your identity - so that when investigation is made about their "suspected Sedition activities", you can provide evidence of the "death threat" that are made to them.
(4) Submitting false credential for a public hearing is an offence under the Penal Code. I don't have the information about what false credential PJ Thum has submitted except reading through the press - I leave it to the Authority to take it up.
(5) Please provide information of their whereabout (whether are they still in Singapore or they are living overseas) - if you have the information.
You can post your identity and their information here.
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Ricky Lim
Ricky Lim
Evernal Sue -
You can't report a case about "death threat" -- when the cause that trigger it is due to the "Seditious Activity" --- because the Police will ask what trigger the death threat.
And you are the one that have information and highlight that someone made a "death threat" to this group of people - and demand justice.
The Police will need your Statement for their record.
The full root cause and the subsequent threat - need to be presented and reported.
You can't report a case about "death threat" -- when the cause that trigger it is due to the "Seditious Activity" --- because the Police will ask what trigger the death threat.
And you are the one that have information and highlight that someone made a "death threat" to this group of people - and demand justice.
The Police will need your Statement for their record.
The full root cause and the subsequent threat - need to be presented and reported.
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Evernal Sue
Ricky Lim Ricky Lim U made police report lah if you are so sure that they infringed the sedition act. Why u keep telling me? Tell the police.
I really wanted to post a link the screenshots but CNA will remove any post that has link in it. so pls pm on fb for it, i really have it, i'm not kidding. Actually if you google something like kirsten han death threats can find it yourself also.
U make police report first lah, why u put the cart before the horse and ask for my identity first? How i know if you will really make police report, then i give up my privacy to you for nothing?? Besides, even if i wanna give my identity, i can give it to the police, why should i give it to you.
PLs loh, u report police then they will find pj thum and the gang for you, why need me to provide information of their whereabout?? Pls, i'm not their friend and i dunno where they live, except i know sonny liew has a studio at Goodman Arts Centre, and wham you can find him outside court for sure if u keep going there.
OK, now i will wait and see if you will make police report, i already give u as much as i know, dun make any excuses ah, or you should be ashamed of yourself. You make police report first then tell me can or cannot report a case about "death threat" when the root cause is due to "Seditious Activity" You make police report first then i'll gladly cooperate with the police. Dun keep putting the cart before the horse
Oh and latest development, shanmugam laughed off the egg-throwing threat. since he condoned the threat, according to u, shanmugam should be ashamed of himself and is a poor role model
I really wanted to post a link the screenshots but CNA will remove any post that has link in it. so pls pm on fb for it, i really have it, i'm not kidding. Actually if you google something like kirsten han death threats can find it yourself also.
U make police report first lah, why u put the cart before the horse and ask for my identity first? How i know if you will really make police report, then i give up my privacy to you for nothing?? Besides, even if i wanna give my identity, i can give it to the police, why should i give it to you.
PLs loh, u report police then they will find pj thum and the gang for you, why need me to provide information of their whereabout?? Pls, i'm not their friend and i dunno where they live, except i know sonny liew has a studio at Goodman Arts Centre, and wham you can find him outside court for sure if u keep going there.
OK, now i will wait and see if you will make police report, i already give u as much as i know, dun make any excuses ah, or you should be ashamed of yourself. You make police report first then tell me can or cannot report a case about "death threat" when the root cause is due to "Seditious Activity" You make police report first then i'll gladly cooperate with the police. Dun keep putting the cart before the horse
Oh and latest development, shanmugam laughed off the egg-throwing threat. since he condoned the threat, according to u, shanmugam should be ashamed of himself and is a poor role model
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Ricky Lim
Evernal Sue -
You make the statement in the above post :-
"Since the time when ppl sent death threats to pj thum, kirsten han, jolovan wham after shanmugam shared seah kian peng's assertion that pj thum wants dr m to bring democracy to singapore
Yes, we should be ashamed that ppl would make police report about wanting to throw eggs (which was a figure of speech btw, and not literal) but when more serious things like death threats.....nothing done."
You say that no justice is done to them - specifically "nothing done".
I say you should make a police report - as you have the screen shots. But you "chicken out". You want me to do so on your behalf.
Why you want me to make a police report on their "death threat" - when :-
(1) I don't have any evidence of their "death threat"?
(2) I don't agree with their cause - in harming Singapore's Sovereignty.
If you make the police report first and show me the link with photo of the police report with the police report number -- I will be willing to follow up with a police report on their "Seditious Activity" --- which is widely reported.
You make the statement in the above post :-
"Since the time when ppl sent death threats to pj thum, kirsten han, jolovan wham after shanmugam shared seah kian peng's assertion that pj thum wants dr m to bring democracy to singapore
Yes, we should be ashamed that ppl would make police report about wanting to throw eggs (which was a figure of speech btw, and not literal) but when more serious things like death threats.....nothing done."
You say that no justice is done to them - specifically "nothing done".
I say you should make a police report - as you have the screen shots. But you "chicken out". You want me to do so on your behalf.
Why you want me to make a police report on their "death threat" - when :-
(1) I don't have any evidence of their "death threat"?
(2) I don't agree with their cause - in harming Singapore's Sovereignty.
If you make the police report first and show me the link with photo of the police report with the police report number -- I will be willing to follow up with a police report on their "Seditious Activity" --- which is widely reported.
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Evernal Sue
Ricky Lim I've already clarified in my above post that the nothing done i'm referring to is people who read or know about the death threats but did nothing. I did not say no justice is done to them. Dun twist words like seah kian peng lah
Again, you are the one who first said people should not hesitate to report to the police if there are unlawful behaviour not me. i only said it is shameful that among the things ppl would see fit to a make a police report about, they would choose a less serious thing over a more serious thing. Then i only ask you to make a police report to see if you would practise what you preach, but evidently you don't. so who is the one chickening out? even if u take it that i'm chickening out, but if you practise what you preach, you should still make a police report about the death threats, no? I already told u can google for the evidence yourself, or i can provide it to you. Really, i would love to post a link but cna would delete it. That is why i'm asking you to pm me, or if you have other channel u want me to give you the evidence, tell me about it.
Making a police report against the death threat does not mean you support pj thum and others' cause, it means you are against making death threats. If you believe Singapore has no place for intimidation and that social media should not be allowed to disrupt our orderly social fabric - and let it degenerate into "herd gangsterism". Then by making police report against death threats, you're supporting that and not pj thum and others' cause.
Again if you dont make a police report, i can only say that you dont practise what you preach, and are not serious about making sure Singapore has no place for intimidation. If you really dun agree with pj thum and others' cause, then you should really make a report about them infringing sedition act, regardless of whether a police report against death threats is made first. That's the best way to disagree with their cause
Again, you are the one who first said people should not hesitate to report to the police if there are unlawful behaviour not me. i only said it is shameful that among the things ppl would see fit to a make a police report about, they would choose a less serious thing over a more serious thing. Then i only ask you to make a police report to see if you would practise what you preach, but evidently you don't. so who is the one chickening out? even if u take it that i'm chickening out, but if you practise what you preach, you should still make a police report about the death threats, no? I already told u can google for the evidence yourself, or i can provide it to you. Really, i would love to post a link but cna would delete it. That is why i'm asking you to pm me, or if you have other channel u want me to give you the evidence, tell me about it.
Making a police report against the death threat does not mean you support pj thum and others' cause, it means you are against making death threats. If you believe Singapore has no place for intimidation and that social media should not be allowed to disrupt our orderly social fabric - and let it degenerate into "herd gangsterism". Then by making police report against death threats, you're supporting that and not pj thum and others' cause.
Again if you dont make a police report, i can only say that you dont practise what you preach, and are not serious about making sure Singapore has no place for intimidation. If you really dun agree with pj thum and others' cause, then you should really make a report about them infringing sedition act, regardless of whether a police report against death threats is made first. That's the best way to disagree with their cause
Ricky Lim
Evernal Sue -
(1) You need a plantiff and a defendent in the Court of Law.
(2) The plantiff did not make a police report of the death threat or not even around - but you make a statement that "nothing is done".
So unless you represent them as their representative of a plantiff - no charges can be made.
Don't make me their representative - as I am not on their side --- but you are the one that raise it.
If you make a police report - I will certainly follow up with another police report.
(3) My Police report will be file against you and attach with supporting documets :-- all the screenshots of the post here. (include your innuendos make against justice)
- the statement you make about egg throwing - seemingly supporting egg throwing as lawful - and as part of democratic process - when clearly it is against the law.
- the screen shots of PJ Thum and Teo Soh Lung - facebook statement which are on the surface deem "seditious" - as it infringe Singapore Sovereignty and Constitution..
These screenshots are the root cause of your "alleged death threat" === so that a file can be open for proper investigation.
That is why I need your identity.
No need to argue and talk further.
You either provide me the police statement number you make on their behalf regarding the "death threat" and you give me your full name --- I will guarantee a police report will be made.
If you do neither --- I will not respond to you further.
But I will keep all these screenshots in case future actions are required.
(1) You need a plantiff and a defendent in the Court of Law.
(2) The plantiff did not make a police report of the death threat or not even around - but you make a statement that "nothing is done".
So unless you represent them as their representative of a plantiff - no charges can be made.
Don't make me their representative - as I am not on their side --- but you are the one that raise it.
If you make a police report - I will certainly follow up with another police report.
(3) My Police report will be file against you and attach with supporting documets :-- all the screenshots of the post here. (include your innuendos make against justice)
- the statement you make about egg throwing - seemingly supporting egg throwing as lawful - and as part of democratic process - when clearly it is against the law.
- the screen shots of PJ Thum and Teo Soh Lung - facebook statement which are on the surface deem "seditious" - as it infringe Singapore Sovereignty and Constitution..
These screenshots are the root cause of your "alleged death threat" === so that a file can be open for proper investigation.
That is why I need your identity.
No need to argue and talk further.
You either provide me the police statement number you make on their behalf regarding the "death threat" and you give me your full name --- I will guarantee a police report will be made.
If you do neither --- I will not respond to you further.
But I will keep all these screenshots in case future actions are required.
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Evernal Sue
Ricky Lim Go ahead and make my day, file a police report against me. You don't have to wait for me to give you my identity, the police will be able to find me even with my fb name. They even managed to find Daniel Augustin De Costa, the guy who impersonated willy sum.
Ricky Lim
Evernal Sue -
I repeat my statement :-
You either provide me the police statement number you make on their behalf regarding the "death threat" and you give me your full name --- I will guarantee a police report will be made.
As for your last response - I will screenshot it for future reference or actions when the need arise.
I repeat my statement :-
You either provide me the police statement number you make on their behalf regarding the "death threat" and you give me your full name --- I will guarantee a police report will be made.
As for your last response - I will screenshot it for future reference or actions when the need arise.
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Masa Soh Mengming
Ricky Lim Look you call yourself a civic minded citizen. Personally I think Traitor Thum is a traitor but since you believe that just merely thinking of pelting Shanmugam with eggs is criminal behaviour, I am sure that you will report death threats even if they are made against traitors.
Plantiffs, defendants and what not, small matter. Just make a police report. Don't complicate things. Show that you are against death threats in general.
Let us not fool ourselves. You won't. Okay for people to make death threats to people you don't like but not alright about joking to pelt your hero with eggs!
Plantiffs, defendants and what not, small matter. Just make a police report. Don't complicate things. Show that you are against death threats in general.
Let us not fool ourselves. You won't. Okay for people to make death threats to people you don't like but not alright about joking to pelt your hero with eggs!
Masa Soh Mengming -
You should consult a lawyer - whether can a person be a plantiff and at the same time a defendant in the Court of Law. (That is, in layman - can Person A file a charge to sue himself as representative of Person B)
(1) If one person is going to file a case against another person - can this person defend the person in which he is filing the case against?
From legal standpoint - this is absurdity and the case will be void.
(2) To me, I view any persons making "seditious statement" that infringe the Sovereignty of our Country, our Constitution and our Right of Existence as paramount to be pursue as my 1st priority - and no other interest will supersede this.
(3) You can file a case to investigate "death threat" as representative of this group of people (in their absence).
Making a "death threat" is a crime - and I am personally against it.
And by doing (2) will have put (3) right - the "death threat" that you are concerned about.
All you need to do is send me your police statement number that you file against the death threat as their representative and your identity --- I will follow up with another police report.
You should consult a lawyer - whether can a person be a plantiff and at the same time a defendant in the Court of Law. (That is, in layman - can Person A file a charge to sue himself as representative of Person B)
(1) If one person is going to file a case against another person - can this person defend the person in which he is filing the case against?
From legal standpoint - this is absurdity and the case will be void.
(2) To me, I view any persons making "seditious statement" that infringe the Sovereignty of our Country, our Constitution and our Right of Existence as paramount to be pursue as my 1st priority - and no other interest will supersede this.
(3) You can file a case to investigate "death threat" as representative of this group of people (in their absence).
Making a "death threat" is a crime - and I am personally against it.
And by doing (2) will have put (3) right - the "death threat" that you are concerned about.
All you need to do is send me your police statement number that you file against the death threat as their representative and your identity --- I will follow up with another police report.
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Ricky Lim
If a Nation cease to exist - there will be no Government, no Institution, no Justice, no Citizenship, no Citizen right, no Law and Order, no Home.
Singapore as a Nation will cease to exist & all Singaporeans will cease to exist.
If this group hiding under the cloak of "citizen rights" - supported by "sympathisers" - collaborating with foreign elements and succeeded ---- then we (all Singaporeans) and Singapore - will be Stateless and we will be homeless (like Rohingya).
So which priority should come first?
Nation Right of Existence or citizen right?
Singapore as a Nation will cease to exist & all Singaporeans will cease to exist.
If this group hiding under the cloak of "citizen rights" - supported by "sympathisers" - collaborating with foreign elements and succeeded ---- then we (all Singaporeans) and Singapore - will be Stateless and we will be homeless (like Rohingya).
So which priority should come first?
Nation Right of Existence or citizen right?
Jack Sparroww
Dave Choy What's so hard in coming up with any recent example to let Ricky Lim run his imagination? More like you have difficulty following the flow of a simple argument.
Abdul Hameed
Hahahaha.....so pathetic
Daniel De Silva
用李 Are you referring to yourself? You have been posting for the sake of making a comment and most of the time, the structure of your sentence made no sense at all.
Masa Soh Mengming
Let me start with a disclaimer. I don't condone pelting Shanmugam with eggs. But I can list reasons why some want to:
1. Under him, Singapore-Sino ties that took decades to nurture were at its worst. Call me a pro-China shill, but there is no denying that China is a good country that you want good relations with.
2. I didn't like how he, together with Bilahari and Ong Keng Yong, the architects of that disastrous foreign policy stance against China, refused to admit they were wrong and bullied Kishore Mahbubani over it.
3. His bizarre and trivial Facebook posts. Cecil the Lion comes to mi…See More
1. Under him, Singapore-Sino ties that took decades to nurture were at its worst. Call me a pro-China shill, but there is no denying that China is a good country that you want good relations with.
2. I didn't like how he, together with Bilahari and Ong Keng Yong, the architects of that disastrous foreign policy stance against China, refused to admit they were wrong and bullied Kishore Mahbubani over it.
3. His bizarre and trivial Facebook posts. Cecil the Lion comes to mi…See More
Kenneth Avan
My biggest beef with Shanmugam is his holier-than-thou self-righteousness where his and only his opinion, is the absolute and the only one that is right. His sermons of tolerance while exhibiting utmost intolerance of others is one of the biggest ironies there is.
Zhongming Poh
Throwing an egg is a threat? Hello... this is what politicians have to endure. This is at most a civil case. Where is the threat? As if the LBW remark wasn't indicative enough of the party's arrogance.... this just tops it.
Masa Soh Mengming
Being pelted with eggs is violence now. And I remember how PAP politicians soldiered on at Malaysia even though they were pelted with eggs during rally speeches during the Malaysia days.
This generation of PAP leaders are no longer the same as the pioneer batch.
This generation of PAP leaders are no longer the same as the pioneer batch.
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Clifton Foo
SG is slowly evolving into China. Erected laws to silence online dissentiments (throw eggs = disliking). China will not tolerate and SG is behaving the same. Rotten egg throwing and vegetable throwing were established in ancient times to display dissent against corrupted officials.
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Joseph Lim
Over reaction. Plenty of such comments on the net .. r u going throw them ALL into jail?? Just dun waste our taxpayer money.
Clifton Foo
He will (throw all behind bars) if he could. What might be seen petty to us is different to people in political office. Remember what the Aussie politician did to egg boy? He punched the boy in the face.
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Isthofa Mabrur
CYNICAL MINDSETS OF NETIZENS
Why we sporeans need copycat what other countries do. ? If we condone such acts of pelting ( which some felt petty) n so forth it will result in people act discriminately at its whims n fancies in future. The law need be firmed.
What happen by throwing an egg suddenly cause injuries to the minister or people around. That is sharp splinters of egg hitting/ entering the eyes or surrounding people.
The cynical netizens rebuttal n comments shows lack in etiqqutte, maturity n value in own mind. If we disagree on any issues do bring up concrete feedback appropriately not to diasgree n acting physically like hooligans.
Do note.
Why we sporeans need copycat what other countries do. ? If we condone such acts of pelting ( which some felt petty) n so forth it will result in people act discriminately at its whims n fancies in future. The law need be firmed.
What happen by throwing an egg suddenly cause injuries to the minister or people around. That is sharp splinters of egg hitting/ entering the eyes or surrounding people.
The cynical netizens rebuttal n comments shows lack in etiqqutte, maturity n value in own mind. If we disagree on any issues do bring up concrete feedback appropriately not to diasgree n acting physically like hooligans.
Do note.
Tun Osman
Those who dont like the current government, enter politic. Do it the right way. Show to all Singaporeans what you got. Dont be a chickadeez hiding behind a tree passing rude comments.
Masa Soh Mengming
Oh come on. I need to enter politics if I don't like the government?! Offering feedback and criticising policies and personalities is not "the right way"? Must enter politics to do so?!
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Jack Sparroww
You don't like the movie you're watching
Go make your own movie.
You don't like the prata you're eating?
Go make your own prata.
Tun Osman your logic is as crap as ever. You Pap stooges are only capable of this childish cliche response whenever someone attacks your Pap celebrities. 'Don't like the train breakdowns? Try maintaining the trains yourself!' See? So easy.
If you're incapable of logical responses, you can save the space here by staying away 💩
Go make your own movie.
You don't like the prata you're eating?
Go make your own prata.
Tun Osman your logic is as crap as ever. You Pap stooges are only capable of this childish cliche response whenever someone attacks your Pap celebrities. 'Don't like the train breakdowns? Try maintaining the trains yourself!' See? So easy.
If you're incapable of logical responses, you can save the space here by staying away 💩
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Jack Sparroww
Tun Osman Glad you have finally understood your true donkey nature after using 'donkey braying' millions of times in all your previous comments.
Felicia Chen
"Fixing citizens" and bullying starts again!!!... just because coward scared of being "egged"?
Kill the chickens and frighten the monkeys!!!
#DISHONOURABLES!!!
Kill the chickens and frighten the monkeys!!!
#DISHONOURABLES!!!
用李
Every wrong doing need serious action taken to keep law & order in Singapore. And Singaporean can live in peace.
Daniel De Silva
Another typical posting from you. Don’t waste bandwidth with your postings please. Typical textbook answers?
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Jonathan Sim
wasting civil resources. the all-mighty politicians in the current party are really building a wall of law and policy around to protect themselves and the elites. Just how dirty and low can our sg govt go, we can expect more and more after that previous "selected" disgusting president issue. No holds bar.
John Chan
I had a friend got assaulted in a pub due to some misunderstanding. Police came and took down my friend's statement. Many weeks later, police told my friend that they couldn't find the attackers and will continue to investigate. This was almost 3 years ago. For our info, the pub has CCTV recordings and payment transaction details of that table which the attackers were sitting etc. Is this Double Standard in our Police Force?? Threatening to throw an egg at minister VS abrupt assault at a normal citizen
Niko Nishi
This guy deserves it, deserve to go to the police to explain what he meant about throwing an egg at a minister. If not, he may be promoted to throw a knife at a minister or something more harmful. But I think he is not really that stupid to do that but was actually encouraging and instigating some dumb and psycho to do it to the minister, just like the psycho who shot 50 innocent muslims in NZ.
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Pinkpink Pink
Pinkpink Pink
Egg thrower should announce he'll throw an egg at himself and he'll be arrested for attempted suicide. There's a crime in every little move or speech here
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Milton Molten
Seriously???? police investigating for a harmless remark. How much damage can a egg do? Stop wasting the people's money and move on.
Ching Ann
A police report was lodged on Mar 19 against a 20-year-old netizen who had left a comment on a Facebook post “suggesting that he wanted to throw an egg” at the minister, the police told Channel NewsAsia on Tuesday (Mar 26).
>> Newspaper reports ought to be clearer as to who lodged the police report so that we know who the person is. It's surprising how some people would resort to making police reports (a waste of public resources) over insignificant remarks. It just reflects the personality of the individuals.
>> Newspaper reports ought to be clearer as to who lodged the police report so that we know who the person is. It's surprising how some people would resort to making police reports (a waste of public resources) over insignificant remarks. It just reflects the personality of the individuals.
Tan Koo Koo
A generation where politicians sues commoners. I wont be surprise action is taken against anyone who uses such words against them
Benjamin Lim
Can anyone provide me with the link to the facebook post? I would also like to make my own egg comment.
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