Monday, January 7, 2019

AGC alleges ‘possible professional misconduct’ by Lee Hsien Yang's wife
Read more at https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/lee-suet-fern-kuan-yew-agc-hsien-yang-wife-misconduct-11093284

Ricky Lim
I think few things to ask in this case :-
(1) Is there a professional misconduct by a lawyer?

(2) If yes, can anyone or any entity who come across such misconduct - report the errant lawyer to the relevant bodies - in this case Law Society for investigation?

(3) If AGC in the conduct of business discover a likely case of professional misconduct - can AGC refer the case to Law Society for investigation?

-- else if professional misconduct did in fact occur - by not reporting ---- won't it constitute a "cover up" ---- which then will be serious - as it will tarnish Singapore reputation of a clean Country.
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Ricky Lim
This case has come out into the public domain - and even debated in the Parliament.

The public is aware of this case - and any doubt should be properly investigate.

Because no one is above the law.
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Kenneth Avan
Why is the AGC involved in a private matter in which it is not a party to? Another case state institutions being abused?
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用李
Wao... u working in which law firm??
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用李
Why dun u post in your proper FB page.
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Tham Serene
that chow ah beng dirty old man always question everybody here and thought he is the most high who can threaten everybody to reveal their identity publicly, just ignore him.
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Lau Lan Chu
Thought already explained in the article clearly they discovered conflict of interest and has the duty to report under the law of Singapore?
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Lu Pin
Tham Serene thats what i cant stand about him too. I understand that CNA's moderator had been alerted to him, and his senseless comments will be gone after some time.
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Kenneth Avan
Tham Serene Just blocked. Thanks for the heads up.
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Kenneth Avan
Lau Lan Chu Once again, AGC is not party to the will. It should be Lucien Wong reporting to the Law Society in his capacity as PM Lee's private lawyer. But wait, he is also the AG now. Can you see the conflict of interest in this as well?

And a lawyer who only discovers alleged "professional misconduct" on the part of another lawyer after 4 years isn't a very good lawyer himself.
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Xianhong Low
Lau Lan Chu If it happens to your father's will or Lim Suet Fen's father's will, will the AGC and law society bother to care? From my experience dealing with government departments, even if you file a complaint with AGC or the law society on such matter, they will tell you they can't help and advise you to hire a private lawyer to sue the other party. It seems like the AGC is quite proactive on the Prime Minister's private household matter. No wonder LWL says this is unprecedented. Now it opens the precedent for the AGC and the Law Society to handle private will. I know a lot of people who have issues with will, seems like the people at the AGC and the Law Society will be very busy in future.
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Lau Lan Chu
Xianhong Low I agree because it got to do with LKY house and there is misdeed uncovered during the long process and the person involved is not cooperative. Also the deputy is handling because there is potential conflict of personal interest.
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Kenneth Avan
Lau Lan Chu If it is a private matter, how did AGC know that there are alleged misdeeds unless some party to the happenings were feeding them with information?

Is the abuse of state institutions to settle a personal vendetta or breach of confidentiality just as big a misdeed that needs to be reported?
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Kusuma Hideko
The will is a private matter but the professional conduct of a lawyer is a public matter. The AGC is the body tasked with overseeing public interest and referring to the Law Society is appropriate for professional misconduct. The issue was long known and not dug up fresh after 4 years had passed. During this time, efforts have been made to get LSF to explain. She had asked for time but to date has not provided proper explanation. So now the AGC takes action and supporters question why this is dug up after 4 years.
LSF has been the catalyst in this whole family feud. LHY obviously throws all pSee More
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Breeke Lo
Kusuma Hideko what then would your opinion be on LWL's stance against their eldest brother? Was this Doctor, with no apparent interests politically or financially, being led by the nose by the couple?
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Breeke Lo
Kusuma Hideko "She had asked for time but to date has not provided proper explanation."

How did you conclude the not "proper" part?
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Mark Chen
Tham Serene lol...yes
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Mark Chen
Lu Pin need to teach him a lesson...if not he never change
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Xianhong Low
Lau Lan Chu From the perspective of LWL and LHY, it does not matter whether it is LKY's house or not. For them, this is a private matter. So don't drag the AGC or the law society into the matter. Assuming that the current PM is not LHL but say Heng Swee Kiat and none of LKY's children has ever been involved in politics, the AGC and the Law Society probably wouldn't even care. The dispute between an ex-PM children would probably hit the news headline but there would be no issue of the AGC, AG, his deputy, conflict of interest. The misdeed and LSF's uncooperative attitude will be mentioned. But it will more likely be something like: "LHL's lawyer have uncovered misdeed by LSF and have reported to the law society. The society is currently looking into it." No AGC and it is probably nothing more than an entertainment news.
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Jm Chow
Breeke Lo

Your comment is puzzling.
" LWL's stance against their eldest brother... Was this Doctor, with no apparent interests politically or financially, being led by the nose by the couple?"

How do you know...LWL told you that she is led by the nose ...by the other brother ?

I thought...from day one...LWL want LHL to comply with the last and final will of their father.

If you can...substantiate what you said: How is she led by her second brother?
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Kenneth Avan
Kusuma Hideko Since when did AGC become the watchdog on laywers' professional conduct? Anyone can report unprofessional lawyers to the Law Society, but yet AGC took it upon themselves to report LSF on behalf of LHL?

And don't tell me Lucien Wong didn't know LSF drafted LKY's final will. Don't tell me that information was only just dug up. Any conflict of interest should have been reported then and not now.

And where are you getting the information that LSF is leading her husband and sister-in-law against LHL? Serious allegations require proof.
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Kenneth Avan
Xianhong Low Agreed. Report LSF for all they want. There have been cases of professional misconduct by lawyers in private disputes but AGC has never taken upon itself to report their misconducts, especially when they are not privvy to the events that occurred. As this is a private matter, I would expect AGC not to be privvy to the details as well. Thus, we really must question why AGC decided to involve itself.
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Breeke Lo
Jm Chow u r reading irresponsibly and jumping to conclusions. Read again what i said and in what context the qn was asked.
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Masa Soh Mengming
Jm Chow Dementia... Hitler... Stop... Ellipses... Deflecting questions... How you know... Lee Suet Fern... manipulated....
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Lau Lan Chu
Read this again and understand is there a suspected misdeed of the law firm and is it a private matter?

“In this case, AGC became aware of a possible case of professional misconduct by Ms Lee. Ms Lee appears to have prepared the Last Will of Mr Lee Kuan Yew and arranged for Mr Lee Kuan Yew to execute it, despite the fact that her husband, Mr Lee Hsien Yang, is one of the beneficiaries under the Last Will," AGC said in a statement on Monday (Jan 7).

"Mr Lee Hsien Yang’s share increased under the Last Will. AGC also noted that Mr Lee Hsien Yang had said publicly that the Last Will was drafted by Ms Kwa Kim Lee of M/s Lee & Lee. However Ms Kwa Kim Lee has denied that she drafted it,”

Read more at https://www.channelnewsasia.com/.../lee-suet-fern-kuan...
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Steven Mok
If LKY could jump up from his grave, he will surely without hesitation slaps LHY for conspiracy with outsiders to attack his own brother and will kick him hard for having love affairs with his Singtel subordinates when his he was CEO.

As for LWL, LKY will lectures her and her to apologise to her eldest brother because she wasn't the main culprit who stirred up the 38 oxley issue.

And LSF needs to face the law if she proven committed wrongdoing or malpractices.
Professional misconduct is considered as white collar crimes is also serious crime that lead to nation reputation badly tainted.
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Dave Tan
Lau Lan Chu it's not against any law. Its just against the Code of Conduct for a lawyer.
The person who should complaint to Law Society is either LKY, if he still around, LHL or even LHY.
It's a private wills, what is AGC involment here?
Or do you agree that it's AGC "duty" to go through all private wills, probably hundreds a day to ensure no "misconduct" ?
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Breeke Lo
Steven Mok If LKY jump out, the first person he slaps might be you for putting words into his mouth.
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Lu Pin
Kenneth Avan Correct, the one with the biggest conflict of interest trying to accuse others of conflict of interest, seriously unacceptable. This is a case of catfight between the daughters in law. Looks to me that ho ching really hates yang's wife, and she has more resources under her hubby's employment to make use of.
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Yi Yong Ke
Kenneth Avan: Are you an expert in this matter?
Are you well verse in the Law?
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Yi Yong Ke
Tham Serene
Sorry, Can you tell me who is the chow ah beng dirty old man?
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Augustine Teo
Xianhong Low
Why you think people call tua liap lang?
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Augustine Teo
All knew the law, so cannut use law to win case. The parties pick the casino and show hand on banker player table to decide the winner.
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Kenneth Avan
Yi Yong Ke No I'm not a legal expert. But as a layman, I can easily see that abuse of state insitutions is taking place when this is a private matter.

I'd like to add that neither are you a legal expert but that doesn't stop you from commenting. So please try not to censor me.
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Wong Ks
long overdue
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Shooter Shoot
Brothers can be good , but, Wife is always the PROBLEMS between brothers !
Nothing New ! This is a Women Problems ! 3 Womens caused the Mess.
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用李
Nonsense
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Lawrence Seow
用李 yes you are, full of nonsense
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Xianhong Low
You are right. I think there is no problem between the Lee siblings. The problem is between LHY, his wife, LWL and Ho Ching. Right from their first post, LHY and LWL have been very antagonistic towards Ho Ching and his son with LHL. Not against the children of LHL's first wife. And of course with Ho Ching being his wife, LHL cannot be seen siding with his brother and sister. This will complicate matter as people will question LHL and his relationship with Ho Ching.
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Yi Yong Ke
Xianhong Low
Wow. You can analyse the mystery behind this case.
You can use this analysis to write a screenplay and
produce a good movie.
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Paladin Nicholas Lawrence
First, they forced the son into exile.
Now they are going after the wife.
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用李
Why need to run?
Aftering the lawyer doing without answering simple qns of cause need to pursue further for the true.
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Xianhong Low
Ya loh. Son exiled after the his first FB post. Then wife kena after breakfast with Tan Cheng Bok and donating to Leong Sze Han's case. A warning that the next will probably be himself if he tries to do something funny again.
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Keithfoi Foo
Dr LWL and LHY were justified feeling threatened. Now it has come to pass, what they postulated has materialised.
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用李
Faker Foo why u kn their feeling so well? Iszi u had chosen that side frm start??
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用李
This is a most sadly family dispute in Singapore history over a will.
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用李
Not sure how bad it will affect Singapore & late LKY.
His grand son aready disrepected him by challenge what his grandfather had built using almost his entire life.
Really sad.
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Jude Seah
I am more interested in the size of the estate...
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用李
Is not for sale why bother?
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Xianhong Low
用李 It has already been sold. LHL already sold the house to LHY via the so call donating the proceeds to charity. But LHY is now stuck with a property he cannot resell or demolish and build into a new development for a profit. Will you be pissed off if that happens to you? Will you be pissed with your brother and the ministerial committee if you suspect they are hurdles to you profiting from your investment?
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Paladin Nicholas Lawrence
What I really hate is knowing that the old snake across the Causeway must be gloating that LKY's children and their spouses are fighting so badly.
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用李
That old man rating in his country he had to worry more now.
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Norah Arc
The story of man told long ago must be retold. The strength or power of Sin is the law, and the sting, and wages, of Sin is death. Hence, do not tempt the lord( your god) in high places because his angels/ministers will ensure his foot will never hit the stone.

What Sin has exported overseas, Sin will return in kind.
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用李
Hey wake up. This is not a church.
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Pauline Ng
If this is a private matter, why it becomes a disgraceful display of drama that is destroying the good name of their father? They all should stop all these nonsense and settle their differences within the family and not drag Singaporeans to take sides and being used by foreign interests to cause division. All the sacrifices of LKY to build this nation is being disrespected by all the members involved, whether they claim to preserve LKY's wishes or not. Simply foolishness!
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Kong Wu Bo
Because their issue bigger than SG. No them no sg.
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Uthayakumar Biravar S
Thought this matter was over and done, she can make a good political gain
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Breeke Lo
Why are they assuming LSF knew that the Will has LHY as a beneficiary BEFORE she agreed to the appointment (at LKY's request)? Is it in law a father must list every child in his will as beneficiary? Without such explicit knowledge, how could LSF put herself in a position of that "alleged" conflict?
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Tay Steven
Breeke Lo
Once she became aware of the beneficiary, she should withdraw and not proceed to prepare the will
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Breeke Lo
Tay Steven by the time she is aware of the bene in the NEW will, which is AFTER her appointment, she has already carried out her role as the lawyer, thus it's a moot point as far as this conflict of interest charge is concerned.

Besides, at that point, she was already privy to LKY's final wishes. Removing her own appointment, thus her duty of cconfidentiality to LKY, is adverse to LKY's interests at that stage.

And if I remember correctly, she wasn't the one who handled the taking of LKY's final wishes for the final will. Ie the other lawyer is also now privy to the contents of the new will. How to withdraw?
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Georgie Lee
Dont ever let this Lee Suet Fern get away with it this time. Expose and shame her.
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Alvin Koh
I smell a rat..
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Jeanie Tifinny Tara
Go for civil suit. Don't abuse the parliment or the court. This is personal. Unbecoming.
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Lucas Lim Hk
How many Sgporean visit a museum in a yr? how many will want to go to a oxley museum? uncles who r free, wan go jb ktv n massage centre if not drivin grab, if g5 leaders really think this is a gd idea for reminiscence...really not worth the salary. hiya
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MengTong Foo
If LKY is alive, he would be utterly disgusted with his 2 useless children. Making accusations with irrelevancy, is it any wonder LKY put LHL in responsible position over the other 2?
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Kenneth Avan
Is it also a wonder why he removed LHL as executor to his estate?
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Breeke Lo
LHL is the eldest son. Per Chinese customs, the eldest son is the defacto head of family at the father's demise. But look what is happening to LKY's family! It can be argued that, if one cannot unite a family, how would you expect him to united a company not to mention a country!
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Nantha Tan
Lol, this feud proved that LKY is a failure.
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Masa Soh Mengming
Glad you think you are living in a failed state then. Heard that cost of living across the Causeway is getting cheaper. Why not go there and celebrate your National Day at 31st August like PJ Thum?
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Nantha Tan
Masa Soh Mengming You clearly are a retard.
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Breeke Lo
CNA, why is the title "AGC alleges ‘possible professional misconduct’ by Lee Hsien Yang's wife" instead of "by Lee Suet Fern"? Ppl got name you know?
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Masa Soh Mengming
If the PM in pink is still leading the party the next election, I will spoil my vote. If his brother or maybe Tan Cheng Bock runs for election, I will vote for them.

It is obvious that MM wanted his house demolished as much as I disagree with it. Using such bullying tactics really disgusts me and I see myself as a PAP supporter!
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Breeke Lo
Glad to know not all pap supporters are blind party followers 👍
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Jonathan Sterling
Qualified doctors are governed by the ethical code which prevents them from providing professional medical advice to family members. One doesn't need to be a lawyer to know the consequences of the way the will was changed in this case. One is just asking for troubles if one works behind the back of the family members to convince the parent to change the will. When my family prepared for the unavoidable death of our parent, all arrangements were done in the open and the whole process is smooth and further united the whole family. Obviously sound common sense trumps elite education in life.
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Swee Meng Ling
why you think LKY chose to do that?
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Breeke Lo
So if your father-in-law is at the verge, calls out to you for help, you as a doctor who is fully qualified to help him, will not lift a finger?
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Jonathan Sterling
Too many people just reply with one or two sentences comment with questions without providing thoughtful argument to support what they want to say. If this is the quality of the critical mass of Singaporeans then Singapore will become the next HK where radicals just protest, criticize and disrupt public orders for their own selfish gain.
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Breeke Lo
Jonathan Sterling If you are not open to challenges (aka 1 or 2 sentences questions) to your arguments, then you probably shouldn't be making any.
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Augustine Teo
Jonathan Sterling
Hey we here talk cock la . Who will take your opi seriously . After this deleted next headline please.
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Swee Meng Ling
Jonathan Sterling
That is because you think you are smarter than LKY. That was why I asked you to think much deeper, a few more layers if you can why LKY did what he did. And you also did not seem to know that previous wills were made known to LHL.
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Norah Arc
There are many, I am sure, believed the family members, with the exception of one contradiction, had discharged their duties honorably in regard to the will but unfortunately, the law is a two edged sword. The law, if strictly by the stroke of the letter, can be “deadly” to anyone standing in the way of Sin's interests.

The father of Sin, however, was a highly esteem figure in the history of Sin, whose word was God in national affairs and foresight almost "prophetic".

When he willed for "his house"(his Seed has substantial interest in it) to be demolished, it naturally shook the nation.

To demolish "the House", you will wipe out its history/glory and source of influence/power.

Those who want "the house" to be demolished have to now contend with the house within the house.

Is there more to what LKY had willed will have to depend on the stars?
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Steven Mok
If LKY could jump up from his grave, he will surely without hesitation slaps LHY for conspiracy with outsiders to attack his own brother and will kick him hard for having love affairs with his Singtel subordinates when his he was CEO.

As for LWL, LKY will lectures her and her to apologise to her eldest brother because she wasn't the main culprit who stirred up the 38 oxley issue.

And LSF needs to face the law if she proven committed wrongdoing or malpractices.
Professional misconduct is considered as white collar crimes is also serious crime that lead to nation reputation badly tainted.
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Breeke Lo
If LKY jump out, the first person he slaps might be you for putting words into his mouth.
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Yi Yong Ke
Breeke Lo
阿弥陀拂。
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Steven Mok
Breeke Lo,
Not likely because LKY is reasonable and righteous man. He can only uses hand on his akin only. For others use the law...
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Steven Mok
Breeke Lo ,
LKY don't want his son LHY to betray his wife having an affair with singtel subordinate. Thus LHY resigned abruptly.
The slaps is one of the that reasons.
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Tony Gan
Lky is not my father..but our nation founding father. He have made quite clear...of his wish to have the house demolished....do they really want to have a house of shame...where future generation...will be taught....this is how our government will not respect the will of the past leaders !
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Yi Yong Ke
Join the opposition party, then.
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Dave Tan
It's not against the law. Its just against the Code of Conduct for a lawyer.

The person who should make a COMPLAINT to Law Society is either LKY himself if he still around, LHL, or even her husband LHY.

So what is AGC involment here??

Or its AGC "Duty" to go through all wills, probably hundreds a day to ensure no "misconduct"???

AGC is paid by the taxpayers to look into public issue, and not a private matter!
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Jonathan Sterling
As I mentioned in my other posts, I would engage in discussion with other people who posted thoughtful comments and your post has an thoughtful argument.

It's not as simple as a private or public matter. If it is so, a lot of unlawful stuff which took place in the private would have gone unpunished.

The governing body of a profession has the duty to ensure rules are followed by the practicing members of that profession. In this case, I would say it is reasonable for the AGC to be involved in matters concerning the conduct of a lawyer.
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Gerrard Villa
Household in a mess, how to run the country......
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Yi Yong Ke
Start the year with a bang.
The coming months will have interesting reading materials.
Suspense began.
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Lan Lan
Lets be honest, every family has their own problems.
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Ee Lee Tay
Old house with old electric wiring, maybe one day during a thunderstorm it will short circuit and burn down ...
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