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Ricky Lim
Posted on :- 21 Jul 2018 08:39PM (Updated: 21 Jul 2018 08:46PM)
Ricky Lim
The rail link providing passenger commuters access make more sense - to facilitate travel.
Rail link to provide cargo access - commercially less efficient - as demonstrated by a trial of rail access to Europe.
Reason:- One ship container can carry more than 20,000 TEUs of cargo.
A rail can carry only 45 containers. Also depends on the weight of the cargo, the rail may not be able to take it.
Heavy cargo in container ship can float......
So how many trip the rail need to bring up 20,000 TEUs of cargo to the cargo ship in the port?
Mathematically, 444 rail trips. By the time the cargo ship is fully loaded, the sun rise and set don't know how many moons already loh .......
The ship container captain wait for all the rail trips to arrive to load all the container into his ship - will already have 又长大一岁了 - and he will have sleep on his captain seat with cobwebs all over。
So wonder how does rail cargo can facilitate port access ...........
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Ricky Lim
So far most trade in the World is conducted by cargo container via the sea.
Very little by rail and air freight because it is not efficient and not cost effective - in terms of cargo volume that it can transport.....
Also when put heavy machinery load on a rail, I think the railway track also become "benkuk".
When put heavy machinery on cargo plane, the plane will fly like helicopter - hovering at the height of a tree.......
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Ricky Lim
The rail link providing passenger commuters access make more sense - to facilitate travel.
Rail link to provide cargo access - commercially less efficient - as demonstrated by a trial of rail access to Europe.
Reason:- One ship container can carry more than 20,000 TEUs of cargo.
A rail can carry only 45 containers. Also depends on the weight of the cargo, the rail may not be able to take it.
Heavy cargo in container ship can float......
So how many trip the rail need to bring up 20,000 TEUs of cargo to the cargo ship in the port?
Mathematically, 444 rail trips. By the time the cargo ship is fully loaded, the sun rise and set don't know how many moons already loh .......
The ship container captain wait for all the rail trips to arrive to load all the container into his ship - will already have 又长大一岁了 - and he will have sleep on his captain seat with cobwebs all over。
So wonder how does rail cargo can facilitate port access ...........
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Ricky Lim
So far most trade in the World is conducted by cargo container via the sea.
Very little by rail and air freight because it is not efficient and not cost effective - in terms of cargo volume that it can transport.....
Also when put heavy machinery load on a rail, I think the railway track also become "benkuk".
When put heavy machinery on cargo plane, the plane will fly like helicopter - hovering at the height of a tree.......
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Ricky Lim
More accurate calculation :-
1 ship container = 20,000 TEU
1 TEU =
24,000 Kilograms =
26.455471 Tons
Thus, 1 ship container = 20,000 TEU x 26.455471 Tons = 529,109.42 tons
Rail need to deliver = 529,109.42 tonnes / 3,500 tonnes = 151.17412 trips for 45 wagon car
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So is ECRL a game changer for freight cargo - doesn't look like it.
But for passenger travelling make more sense.
1 ship container = 20,000 TEU
1 TEU =
24,000 Kilograms =
26.455471 Tons
Thus, 1 ship container = 20,000 TEU x 26.455471 Tons = 529,109.42 tons
Rail need to deliver = 529,109.42 tonnes / 3,500 tonnes = 151.17412 trips for 45 wagon car
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So is ECRL a game changer for freight cargo - doesn't look like it.
But for passenger travelling make more sense.
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Ricky Lim
(1) If China tourists come by ECRL - they can visit east part of Malaysia and west part of Malaysia.
(2) If HSR is in place, China tourists can transfer from ECRL to HSR and come down all the way to Singapore.
--- then ECRL and HSR is feasible - as it promote tourism.
(1) But if ECRL carry cargo eg. 45 wagon station from China to Port Klang --- then there is a need to "zing zong zi zhang, zing zong zi xhang" = 151 trips to 444 times - to bring cargo from China to port klang - before filling up 1 container ship in Port klang and take off.
By that times, many "moons" will have come and go - and the ship captain beard must have become very long and spider cobwebs will have build all over him.
Then ship cargo is not efficient.
(2) If HSR is in place, China tourists can transfer from ECRL to HSR and come down all the way to Singapore.
--- then ECRL and HSR is feasible - as it promote tourism.
(1) But if ECRL carry cargo eg. 45 wagon station from China to Port Klang --- then there is a need to "zing zong zi zhang, zing zong zi xhang" = 151 trips to 444 times - to bring cargo from China to port klang - before filling up 1 container ship in Port klang and take off.
By that times, many "moons" will have come and go - and the ship captain beard must have become very long and spider cobwebs will have build all over him.
Then ship cargo is not efficient.
Ho Chee Keong
malaysia bully Singapore.china bully malaysia.there are always a bigger fish out there.
Michael Ozaki
Is it talking about the Mr 10%, I think 10% of the cost will settled. Now we are clean, we don't want that 10% already.
Georgie Tan
M still think that China will cut the price to 10% or even better FOC. Other can charge very cheap but the quality of the end product is very important. Why bridges and road give way just like that? Lucky if it give way before completed but after that life will be lost.
Richard Kam
Who knows maybe the Japanese will step in to pay the compensation and do the ECRL at cost or free to compensate for all the people they killed, tortured and rape during the second world war???
Reply · 8h
Steven Mok
Richard Kam
Who knows if Japan took over the ECRL project with discount and put some $B into someone's pocket then cunning people happy, no more noises.
Who knows if Japan took over the ECRL project with discount and put some $B into someone's pocket then cunning people happy, no more noises.
Reply · 3h
Soen Seng Thio
Dr M said that Malaysia will be impoverished is ECRL goes on.
so what so difficult thing to do. cancel the project ,pay the compensation. finish
talk so much, waste so much time and money n not coming to conclusion.
hopeless bunch.
so what so difficult thing to do. cancel the project ,pay the compensation. finish
talk so much, waste so much time and money n not coming to conclusion.
hopeless bunch.
Soon Hoe Quah
Hello, shut up lah!!! You already ask people to be patient and wait for LGE announcement right? So diam diam bodoh!!!
Yeok Fong Yong
heheheeee, he will talk talk talk even when he is lowered to his grave lah!
Reply · 3h
Yeok Fong Yong
Najis has many nickname like Sapu man, old horse has equally more like Mr 10%, Mr U turn, Mr flip flop, Mr moving goal post, Mr Roti prata, Mr Mercurial. New Malaysia boleh lah! Hehehe
Steven Mok
Plus..the tactics he use to attacks innocence below
Mr Fox..for twists and turns
Mr Wolf..U-turn
Mr crocodile. bite and swallow
Mr python.. coil and squeeze
Mr double face.. says today different from tomorrow
Mr TS.. thick skin
Mr Fox..for twists and turns
Mr Wolf..U-turn
Mr crocodile. bite and swallow
Mr python.. coil and squeeze
Mr double face.. says today different from tomorrow
Mr TS.. thick skin
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Pher Kim Huat
As the saying goes : "Top structure not straight then bottom structure will be crooked". Msia's ordinary people will have no choice but to follow the winding (like a snake) journey laid down by their "crooked leaders".
Yong Cho Kong
If you people are familiar with antics of Mahathir you will note;
1. France and oil palm .. malaysia will retaliate against france with buy french last.
2. latest with multimedia statement... studying huawei 5G products and any backdoors and possible security leaks... laugh a bit.. OK. Even the US cannot find any backdoors up till today. Theirs is more a maatter of containment of China. Has Malaysia been roped in also.
Think Mahathir is using this 5G as baragaining chip for ECRL and Joe low
1. France and oil palm .. malaysia will retaliate against france with buy french last.
2. latest with multimedia statement... studying huawei 5G products and any backdoors and possible security leaks... laugh a bit.. OK. Even the US cannot find any backdoors up till today. Theirs is more a maatter of containment of China. Has Malaysia been roped in also.
Think Mahathir is using this 5G as baragaining chip for ECRL and Joe low
Steven Mok
Mahathir says.. I am not in the position to explain ECRL issue !
What's rubbish he's talking as a PM he's not in the position to explain ECRL.. he just pushs the difficulties situation to other ministers in order not to offended China. Obviously Mahathir very scare of China retaliation and punishing him.
He's has no choice just silly and cunningly claims he's not the one the explain to ECRL matter. Even a retarded boy will laugh for his silly excuses. Mahathir's crafty smart but unable to handle China, in contrast he is much stubbornly unreasonably repeatedly bullying his neighbour tiny isla…See More
What's rubbish he's talking as a PM he's not in the position to explain ECRL.. he just pushs the difficulties situation to other ministers in order not to offended China. Obviously Mahathir very scare of China retaliation and punishing him.
He's has no choice just silly and cunningly claims he's not the one the explain to ECRL matter. Even a retarded boy will laugh for his silly excuses. Mahathir's crafty smart but unable to handle China, in contrast he is much stubbornly unreasonably repeatedly bullying his neighbour tiny isla…See More
Yeok Fong Yong
ECRL seems to be a tough nut to crack for Mr U-turn compared with HSR which is so easy and nice to settle with Singapore but yet he repaid this courtesy to Singapore by opening old wound like water and add oil to fire by creating new wounds like Air Space and Maritime borders. That's the way he returns kindness. Moral of this story, some people take Kindness as Weakness! Wait China whacks him good and proper and he will ask for forgiveness with bended knee...hehehheheeeee
Weng Cheng Ye
So, how about continuing the project with new contractors that built KLIA and owned by some bodoh morons whose father is a puke to the max.? I think this would be the better choice,. Mahatail, what say you?
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