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Masa Soh Mengming
I fear that all of these are just delaying tactics. I hope that our leadership realises that Bolehland has no wish to resolve this dispute and is determined to foist themselves on us without our consent.
Offer an apology for taking Malaysia for granted. Plus sufficient yearly fee to overfly Johor.
Otherwise realign Seletar runway for within border landings and take-offs, or close down and move operations elsewhere in Singapore.
Otherwise realign Seletar runway for within border landings and take-offs, or close down and move operations elsewhere in Singapore.
Yonghua Lin - If we ban all commercial flights from johor airspace to Singapore for breaching air safety regulations - you think malaysia lose more or we lose more?
You talk nonsense only.
You think there is only malaysia flight path?
You think our flight need to go by malaysia flight path - if we switch to international flight path - all your commercial flights will have to come by our international airspace - you will have zero flight in your airspace - and you get nothing.
You must know the fact before you talk nonsense here.
Firefly to lose up to RM20m a month over Seletar suspension - you think you still can sustain more loss?
You better apologise before you act tough here.
You talk nonsense only.
You think there is only malaysia flight path?
You think our flight need to go by malaysia flight path - if we switch to international flight path - all your commercial flights will have to come by our international airspace - you will have zero flight in your airspace - and you get nothing.
You must know the fact before you talk nonsense here.
Firefly to lose up to RM20m a month over Seletar suspension - you think you still can sustain more loss?
You better apologise before you act tough here.
Yonghua Lin - you want to act tough :- See the state you are in :-
(1) Cancel US$23 billion China investment project
(2) Want to sanction France on trade over your palm oil and want to stop EU-Malaysia FTA talk - potentially losing multiple RM16.15 billion.
(3) Singapore postpone investment to Iskandar - RM$10.6 billion.
(1) Cancel US$23 billion China investment project
(2) Want to sanction France on trade over your palm oil and want to stop EU-Malaysia FTA talk - potentially losing multiple RM16.15 billion.
(3) Singapore postpone investment to Iskandar - RM$10.6 billion.
(4) Singapore reduce 30% of shopping in Johor for CNY.
(5) Malaysia Mahathir asks Japan for yen loan RM7.4 billion to solve financial woes
You want to fight - your Economy can tahan or not?
You have RM$734 billion total debt and RM$21 billion yearly interest debt to service.
You want to offend us? You want to take us hostage? You want to act like extortionist?Want to try?
You better know the state you are in - before you open your mouth. 你要玩? 怕你玩不起。
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Yonghua Lin
Ricky Lim Being headstrong will only ruin matters - like getting SIA busiest route (to KL) slashed; not considering the even more strategic water issue.
Ricky Lim
Yonghua Lin - You think we worried?
You think we worried about the water issue? Without your water you think we will die of thirst or johor will die of thist?
Now you have nothing that you can hold us by our neck.
Your side have been threatening us for the last few decade - and now, nothing from your side can threaten us.
But the same thing cannot be say of you.
You don't even know your vulnerabilites and how vulnerable you are and yet want to talk big and yet want to fight with so many Countries.
Do you know that Maybank has to close its banking brokerage operations in China and HK with announcement yesterday - all thanks to your old hat wanting to fight China.
Don't know how long your economy and finance can last - if you continue to act tough and pick fight with any Countries.
Your budget for deficit year after year - and your debt keep growing year after year.
You want fight with many Countries - and trade, investment, tourism will keep dwindling.
Let see how long your economy and finance can sustain.
Talk big.
你要看看自己斤两有多少 before you pick fight with others.
自己不知量力 - 只有自取其辱。
You think we worried about the water issue? Without your water you think we will die of thirst or johor will die of thist?
Now you have nothing that you can hold us by our neck.
Your side have been threatening us for the last few decade - and now, nothing from your side can threaten us.
But the same thing cannot be say of you.
You don't even know your vulnerabilites and how vulnerable you are and yet want to talk big and yet want to fight with so many Countries.
Do you know that Maybank has to close its banking brokerage operations in China and HK with announcement yesterday - all thanks to your old hat wanting to fight China.
Don't know how long your economy and finance can last - if you continue to act tough and pick fight with any Countries.
Your budget for deficit year after year - and your debt keep growing year after year.
You want fight with many Countries - and trade, investment, tourism will keep dwindling.
Let see how long your economy and finance can sustain.
Talk big.
你要看看自己斤两有多少 before you pick fight with others.
自己不知量力 - 只有自取其辱。
Yonghua Lin
Ricky Lim If water supply become uncertain, foreigners will quickly pull out their investments from Singapore - resulting in it's economy caving in.
Weng Cheng Ye
Yonghua Lin
你爸骑马三支枪，你国吃饱没事可以来帮我们打手枪。Talking with your shit for brain disregarding all the facts, may be being naive, would only make yourself pathetically foolish rather than being an oppressed patriot.
你爸骑马三支枪，你国吃饱没事可以来帮我们打手枪。Talking with your shit for brain disregarding all the facts, may be being naive, would only make yourself pathetically foolish rather than being an oppressed patriot.
Ricky Lim
Yonghua Lin - That is why you are really ignorance and naive and talk big only.
Our desalination plants and newater plants - will have cover our needs. Take out your calculators and compute what is the volume of water we can process versus our water needs - even projected 30 years down the road - then you see we have enough water for ourselves or not.
(5 Newater plants provide us 40% (173 mgd) of our current water needs.
3 Desalination plants provide us 30% (130 mgd) of our current water needs.
In total we need 430 mgd per day.
We have 15 reservoirs - to produce 127 mgd ----- do you think enough?
We are also coming up with the new 4th desalination plants in Tuas and 5th desalination plants in Marina) with 30 mgd each.
Johore plant is an international agreement that you must honor. If you default - we will file in international court and demand compensation from you.
As for yourself - you look at your own status and see for yourself whether you can sleep well or not.
(1) Total debt - RM$734 billion (your Minister reported RM$1 trillion) total debt and RM$21 billion yearly interest debt to service.
(2) Your sovereign fund - RM$157.2 billion
(3) Your reserve - USD$102 billion or RM$428 billion
That means your debt is twice your reserve ---- and you are an indebted nation.
Japan announce degrading your sovereign rating.
You want to threaten us with your water cut?
We maybe worried 10 years ago --- now, you probably tickle us.
And you say our investment cave in if water cut --- you wait long long - our investment is the World 5th highest and more coming in.
Water supply - no issue - we have more desalination plants in the pipeline.
Our desalination plants and newater plants - will have cover our needs. Take out your calculators and compute what is the volume of water we can process versus our water needs - even projected 30 years down the road - then you see we have enough water for ourselves or not.
(5 Newater plants provide us 40% (173 mgd) of our current water needs.
3 Desalination plants provide us 30% (130 mgd) of our current water needs.
In total we need 430 mgd per day.
We have 15 reservoirs - to produce 127 mgd ----- do you think enough?
We are also coming up with the new 4th desalination plants in Tuas and 5th desalination plants in Marina) with 30 mgd each.
Johore plant is an international agreement that you must honor. If you default - we will file in international court and demand compensation from you.
As for yourself - you look at your own status and see for yourself whether you can sleep well or not.
(1) Total debt - RM$734 billion (your Minister reported RM$1 trillion) total debt and RM$21 billion yearly interest debt to service.
(2) Your sovereign fund - RM$157.2 billion
(3) Your reserve - USD$102 billion or RM$428 billion
That means your debt is twice your reserve ---- and you are an indebted nation.
Japan announce degrading your sovereign rating.
You want to threaten us with your water cut?
We maybe worried 10 years ago --- now, you probably tickle us.
And you say our investment cave in if water cut --- you wait long long - our investment is the World 5th highest and more coming in.
Water supply - no issue - we have more desalination plants in the pipeline.
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Ricky Lim
Yonghua Lin - BTW more bad news for you :-
(1) Singapore will be importing more fish and shrimps from Thailand, Indonesia and Vietnam as well as import more frozen fish and shrimps products from other Countries --- you will lose more export from us.
(2) Singapore will be ramping up eggs production and will reduce import from Malaysia.
(3) China will seek compensation from Malaysia for those cancel projects - according to the terms and conditions in the contract.
Good luck to you men !
Now go home and cry.
You want to do evil things and learn from evil person to harm others - you 自食其果，恶有恶报。
The greatest joke is --- you still use your old cook book and want to hold us by our neck --- a truly evil person.
But the greatest joke it - we have turn the table on you long time ago - and yet you still don't know.
(1) You don't know your own vulnerabilities and yet want to harm others.
(2) You don't know people's strength - and yet you want to fight others.
--- Then you are destined for sufferings.
(1) Singapore will be importing more fish and shrimps from Thailand, Indonesia and Vietnam as well as import more frozen fish and shrimps products from other Countries --- you will lose more export from us.
(2) Singapore will be ramping up eggs production and will reduce import from Malaysia.
(3) China will seek compensation from Malaysia for those cancel projects - according to the terms and conditions in the contract.
Good luck to you men !
Now go home and cry.
You want to do evil things and learn from evil person to harm others - you 自食其果，恶有恶报。
The greatest joke is --- you still use your old cook book and want to hold us by our neck --- a truly evil person.
But the greatest joke it - we have turn the table on you long time ago - and yet you still don't know.
(1) You don't know your own vulnerabilities and yet want to harm others.
(2) You don't know people's strength - and yet you want to fight others.
--- Then you are destined for sufferings.
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Ricky Lim
Yonghua Lin - Our foreign policy is "Friends with All, Adversity with None. Forge mutual benefits with Win-Win outcome".
But the moment you threaten our Sovereignty, our National Interests or our Survival ---- we will respond and retaliate with equal force.
Simple message "don't threaten us".
Because if you do, you are going to pay a price for it.
In fact, your recent unfriendly acts has already trigger respond from us - and certainly, you have been losing money.
But the moment you threaten our Sovereignty, our National Interests or our Survival ---- we will respond and retaliate with equal force.
Simple message "don't threaten us".
Because if you do, you are going to pay a price for it.
In fact, your recent unfriendly acts has already trigger respond from us - and certainly, you have been losing money.
Georgie Lee
Mr Khaw, you are wasting your precious with these Bodohs. They will even dare to ask for a further extension to renegotiate the HSR agreement. As for the compensation I dont think they have paid us. Mr Khaw you have to expose that 93 year old snake. He is the cause of all the troubles.
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Unker Will
March or May, no difference to the outcome. All depending on Dr.M ...what is in his mind is anybody's guess. This guy don't listen, he just want his own way and throw what agreements out and into the drain.
Wan Wan
For decades planes flying out or landing at Seletar were using MY airspace via Johore’s Pasir Gudang. Everything was going fine and business as usual, until some smart Alec on our side wanted the ILS to be PUT DOWN IN BLACK AND WHITE! The rest like the saying is HISTORY!
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Ricky Lim
You got it wrong.
In July 2017, Ignatius Ong Ming Choy CEO of Firefly, a subsidiary of Malaysia Airlines (MAS) and a respected member in the aviation community, had raised the issue of an ILS which has not been in installed in Seletar, to the Singapore civil aviation authority, in which Firefly believed that the lack of an ILS impacted on Seletar airport's aim to be "a proper commercial airport" as the ILS will improve aviation safety and enhance operational efficiency of descending aircraft into the airport during poor weather, night landing or adverse visibility.
Ignatius Ong had represented Malaysia Airlines in Kuala Lumpur and Beijing as a leading member of the responsive MAS crisis management team that dealt directly with traumatised relatives of those in the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370.
In July 2017, Ignatius Ong Ming Choy CEO of Firefly, a subsidiary of Malaysia Airlines (MAS) and a respected member in the aviation community, had raised the issue of an ILS which has not been in installed in Seletar, to the Singapore civil aviation authority, in which Firefly believed that the lack of an ILS impacted on Seletar airport's aim to be "a proper commercial airport" as the ILS will improve aviation safety and enhance operational efficiency of descending aircraft into the airport during poor weather, night landing or adverse visibility.
Ignatius Ong had represented Malaysia Airlines in Kuala Lumpur and Beijing as a leading member of the responsive MAS crisis management team that dealt directly with traumatised relatives of those in the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370.
Ricky Lim
The ban was imposed on Firefly after Singapore published the Seletar's Aeronautical Information Publication for the Instrument landing system on 1 December 2018 that covers Johor airspace over Pasir Gudang, an act which Malaysia claimed violated its sovereign territory.
The ban impacted the flight operation plans of two other Malaysian-based airlines, Berjaya Air and Malindo Air which also planned to commence operations between Seletar and Malaysian destinations in 2019.
The ban impacted the flight operation plans of two other Malaysian-based airlines, Berjaya Air and Malindo Air which also planned to commence operations between Seletar and Malaysian destinations in 2019.
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Ricky Lim
The ILS implementation is all about air safety - - as it will help to improve air safety during poor weather, night landing or adverse visibility.
People politicised everything.
KL airport ILS also guided Bangkok bound flight.
And ignorant Singaporeans comment without knowing the fact.
Look silly right?
面子是别人给的，脸是自己丢的。
People politicised everything.
KL airport ILS also guided Bangkok bound flight.
And ignorant Singaporeans comment without knowing the fact.
Look silly right?
面子是别人给的，脸是自己丢的。
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Ricky Lim
So if Seletar airport don't operate :-
(1) Malaysia Firefly will lose RM$20 million per month.
(2) Malaysia Berjaya Air will lose RM$20 million per month.
(3) Malaysia Malindo Air will lose RM$20 million per month.
So if delay until Mar 31 - Malaysia Firefly, Berjaya Air, Malindo Air will have lose 4 month (4 month x RM$60 million per month = $240 million for 4 month).
So if delay until May 31 - Malaysia Firefly, Berjaya Air, Malindo Air will have lose 6 month (6 month x RM$60 million per month = $360 million for 6 month).
(1) Malaysia Firefly will lose RM$20 million per month.
(2) Malaysia Berjaya Air will lose RM$20 million per month.
(3) Malaysia Malindo Air will lose RM$20 million per month.
So if delay until Mar 31 - Malaysia Firefly, Berjaya Air, Malindo Air will have lose 4 month (4 month x RM$60 million per month = $240 million for 4 month).
So if delay until May 31 - Malaysia Firefly, Berjaya Air, Malindo Air will have lose 6 month (6 month x RM$60 million per month = $360 million for 6 month).
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Wan Wan
Ricky Lim you sound like a top gun in the government...seems to know everything under the Sun at your finger tips! If you aren’t, where the hell did you manage to have access to all those important and vital info on almost any and every stuff that is discussed in this forum?
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