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Ricky Lim
Prevention at the source - is the most effective deterrence and prevention of crime.
If there is no chance to commit crime - then crime won't occur.
If there is no chance to commit crime - then crime won't occur.
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Loh Kai Cong
Personally, I heartened by this development. At the very least, the schools have the safety of these students at heart.
Eradication of crime is impossible, this will only minimise the chance of it happening. If a person is hell-bent on peeping, they have other means of spycams , selfie sticks and etc."
Eradication of crime is impossible, this will only minimise the chance of it happening. If a person is hell-bent on peeping, they have other means of spycams , selfie sticks and etc."
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LCL
Loh Kai Cong -
A multitude of measures need to be taken to prevent, deter, punish, rehabilitate, victim care - for crime prevention.
Prevention is the 1st important step --- because crime often occur when security is lapse.
If prevention is done adequately - then many crimes of convenience will be avoided.
A multitude of measures need to be taken to prevent, deter, punish, rehabilitate, victim care - for crime prevention.
Prevention is the 1st important step --- because crime often occur when security is lapse.
If prevention is done adequately - then many crimes of convenience will be avoided.
Ricky Lim
Posted on :- 29 Apr 2019 06:46AM
Ricky Lim
If you tell the student body that harsh punishment such as expulsion or charged in courts for offenders will be administered --- will it calm the nerve or will it cause the uproar to die down?
What happen if another case occur again - despite the above tough punishment?
Then does it means that there is a need to administer even tougher sentences such as :-
(1) stoning
(2) eye gorging
(3) thousand lashes
(4) amputation of limbs?
And then what happen another peeping case pop up again and cause another uproar - even after the most harsh and cruelest punishment is administer?
Then are we harping at the right and most effective solutions?
Prevention, deterrence - at the source where offenders will have no chance to commit those acts --- will permanently resolve such incidents ---- and it is the most cost effective and a simple solution --- rather than crying for harsh punishment --- but yet still cannot guarantee that such crime will not recur.
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Ricky Lim
If you tell the student body that harsh punishment such as expulsion or charged in courts for offenders will be administered --- will it calm the nerve or will it cause the uproar to die down?
What happen if another case occur again - despite the above tough punishment?
Then does it means that there is a need to administer even tougher sentences such as :-
(1) stoning
(2) eye gorging
(3) thousand lashes
(4) amputation of limbs?
And then what happen another peeping case pop up again and cause another uproar - even after the most harsh and cruelest punishment is administer?
Then are we harping at the right and most effective solutions?
Prevention, deterrence - at the source where offenders will have no chance to commit those acts --- will permanently resolve such incidents ---- and it is the most cost effective and a simple solution --- rather than crying for harsh punishment --- but yet still cannot guarantee that such crime will not recur.
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Ricky Lim
Ricky Lim
A massive 2014 study undertaken by the National Research Council announced that: Threatening people with increasingly harsh punishments doesn’t discourage crime.
Harsh Punishment Backfires, Researcher Says
Social, Job Skills Reduce Recidivism
by
Charles Montaldo
Updated March 17, 2017
Currently, the U.S. leads the world in the rate of incarceration. The current numbers show that 612 people per 100,000 residents age 18 or older are imprisoned.
According to some criminal justice experts, the current prison system puts too much emphasis on harsh punishment and not enough on rehabilitation and it simply does not work.
The current system only provides a breeding ground for more aggressive and violent behavior, according to Joel Dvoskin, PhD of the University of Arizona and author of "Applying Social Science to Reduce Violent Offending."
Harsh Punishment Backfires, Researcher Says
Social, Job Skills Reduce Recidivism
by
Charles Montaldo
Updated March 17, 2017
Currently, the U.S. leads the world in the rate of incarceration. The current numbers show that 612 people per 100,000 residents age 18 or older are imprisoned.
According to some criminal justice experts, the current prison system puts too much emphasis on harsh punishment and not enough on rehabilitation and it simply does not work.
The current system only provides a breeding ground for more aggressive and violent behavior, according to Joel Dvoskin, PhD of the University of Arizona and author of "Applying Social Science to Reduce Violent Offending."
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Ricky Lim
Do Longer Sentences Improve Public Safety?
Studies have shown that longer sentences result in higher rates of recidivism.
According to Wright, accumulated data of 50 studies going back as far as 1958 on a total of 336,052 offenders with various criminal offenses and background showed the following:
Offenders who averaged 30 months in prison had a recidivism rate of 29 percent.
Offenders who averaged 12.9 months in prison had a recidivism rate of 26 percent.
The Bureau of Justice Statistics did a study tracking 404,638 prisoners in 30 states after their release from prison in 2005. The researchers found that:
Within three years of release, about two-thirds (67.8 percent) of released prisoners were rearrested.
Within five years of release, about three-quarters (76.6 percent) of released prisoners were rearrested.
Of those prisoners who were rearrested, more than half (56.7 percent) were arrested by the end of the first year.
Conclusion
By reducing the number of non-violent prisoners, it would free up the necessary money to invest in detecting criminal behavior which would increase the certainty of punishment and also allow for more effective programs that could help in reducing recidivism.
Source: Workshop: "Using Social Science to Prevent Violent Crime," Joel A. Dvoskin, PhD, University of Arizona College of Medicine Saturday, Aug. 8, Metro Toronto Convention Centre.
"Deterrence in Criminal Justice," Valerie Wright, Ph.D., The Sentencing Project.
Studies have shown that longer sentences result in higher rates of recidivism.
According to Wright, accumulated data of 50 studies going back as far as 1958 on a total of 336,052 offenders with various criminal offenses and background showed the following:
Offenders who averaged 30 months in prison had a recidivism rate of 29 percent.
Offenders who averaged 12.9 months in prison had a recidivism rate of 26 percent.
The Bureau of Justice Statistics did a study tracking 404,638 prisoners in 30 states after their release from prison in 2005. The researchers found that:
Within three years of release, about two-thirds (67.8 percent) of released prisoners were rearrested.
Within five years of release, about three-quarters (76.6 percent) of released prisoners were rearrested.
Of those prisoners who were rearrested, more than half (56.7 percent) were arrested by the end of the first year.
Conclusion
By reducing the number of non-violent prisoners, it would free up the necessary money to invest in detecting criminal behavior which would increase the certainty of punishment and also allow for more effective programs that could help in reducing recidivism.
Source: Workshop: "Using Social Science to Prevent Violent Crime," Joel A. Dvoskin, PhD, University of Arizona College of Medicine Saturday, Aug. 8, Metro Toronto Convention Centre.
"Deterrence in Criminal Justice," Valerie Wright, Ph.D., The Sentencing Project.
Ricky Lim
Recidivism rates remain 'low and stable' for offenders due to strong community support in Singapore.
In its latest annual figures released on Wednesday (Feb 17), the total percentage of inmates who re-offended within two years from their release dipped 1.7 per cent as compared to the previous year.
(One of the lowest in the World)
PUBLISHEDFEB 17, 2016, 12:00 PM SGT
--- If due to strong emotional pressure from the netizens -- because of one vocal NUS case - and upset the entire system that are put in place for Singapore ----- then the whole Society will have to bear additional burden --- in terms of Economic cost and Social cost === which means taxpayers like us got to pay more tax to finance the cost of crime in Singapore --- when there is a high chance of offenders to rehabiliate and re-contribute back to the society.
In its latest annual figures released on Wednesday (Feb 17), the total percentage of inmates who re-offended within two years from their release dipped 1.7 per cent as compared to the previous year.
(One of the lowest in the World)
PUBLISHEDFEB 17, 2016, 12:00 PM SGT
--- If due to strong emotional pressure from the netizens -- because of one vocal NUS case - and upset the entire system that are put in place for Singapore ----- then the whole Society will have to bear additional burden --- in terms of Economic cost and Social cost === which means taxpayers like us got to pay more tax to finance the cost of crime in Singapore --- when there is a high chance of offenders to rehabiliate and re-contribute back to the society.
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Ricky Lim
Ricky Lim
Thus 3 angles must be look at :-
(1) Deterrence - punishment to deter crime. （戒律）
(2) Supporting care - for victim. （大慈）
(3) Rehabiliation - for offenders with high chance of rehabiliation. （大悲）
And adjust this parameters to achieve the right "Equilibrium"。
(1) 戒律 - Morality, Punishment to ensure right behavior.
(2) 大慈 - Emphatise, kindness to console and heal the victim's heart and mind.
(3) 大悲 - Compassion and grieving on the wrong the offender has done and the subsequent pain he will have to suffer -- and if he has thoroughly repented - will deserve a new life.
锡仗震破地狱门，明珠点亮天堂路。
（Guiding rotan blast the door of the Hell,
Using a shining pearl to light up the road to Heaven, Pureland).
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Thus 3 angles must be look at :-
(1) Deterrence - punishment to deter crime. （戒律）
(2) Supporting care - for victim. （大慈）
(3) Rehabiliation - for offenders with high chance of rehabiliation. （大悲）
And adjust this parameters to achieve the right "Equilibrium"。
(1) 戒律 - Morality, Punishment to ensure right behavior.
(2) 大慈 - Emphatise, kindness to console and heal the victim's heart and mind.
(3) 大悲 - Compassion and grieving on the wrong the offender has done and the subsequent pain he will have to suffer -- and if he has thoroughly repented - will deserve a new life.
锡仗震破地狱门，明珠点亮天堂路。
（Guiding rotan blast the door of the Hell,
Using a shining pearl to light up the road to Heaven, Pureland).
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Ricky Lim
物极必反。
Any extreme in punishment ---- will bring about the unintended undesirable results.
If people are not expert in dealing with crimes and rehabilitating crimes --- by providing unnecessary and misinformed pressures on the Government to change our Justice System, Rehabiliation System and Social System --- will in fact make Singapore to go down the regressive path instead of progressive path.
Let the various expert in their various expert fields - to provide more informed review of the whole spectrum of the Justice System - will be Wiser --- rather than an emotional knee-jerk reaction to the problem.
Any extreme in punishment ---- will bring about the unintended undesirable results.
If people are not expert in dealing with crimes and rehabilitating crimes --- by providing unnecessary and misinformed pressures on the Government to change our Justice System, Rehabiliation System and Social System --- will in fact make Singapore to go down the regressive path instead of progressive path.
Let the various expert in their various expert fields - to provide more informed review of the whole spectrum of the Justice System - will be Wiser --- rather than an emotional knee-jerk reaction to the problem.
William Loh
"All these measures will act as a stronger deterrent against potential offenders and improve overall security on campus," Prof Ho said.
In my opinion, the strongest deterrent against these potential offenders should read like this : "If you are caught committing such offences, you will be handed over to the police. You will be punished to the full extent of the law if found guilty. There will not be any conditional warning.Period. Therefore I would urge you all to think carefully before committing such offences."
This will send a strong message to anyone who wants to try his/her luck and attempts to get away with just a conditional warning. All these rules and regulations should be disseminated to all staff and students when they join the university, acknowledged and signed during the staff and student induction programmes.
In my opinion, the strongest deterrent against these potential offenders should read like this : "If you are caught committing such offences, you will be handed over to the police. You will be punished to the full extent of the law if found guilty. There will not be any conditional warning.Period. Therefore I would urge you all to think carefully before committing such offences."
This will send a strong message to anyone who wants to try his/her luck and attempts to get away with just a conditional warning. All these rules and regulations should be disseminated to all staff and students when they join the university, acknowledged and signed during the staff and student induction programmes.
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Paladin Nicholas Lawrence
Exactly. Why don't they do that?
The only people who will really get upset by such a ruling are the potential perverts.
Decent, law-abiding undergrads will be glad for such a rule.
The only people who will really get upset by such a ruling are the potential perverts.
Decent, law-abiding undergrads will be glad for such a rule.
William Loh
One of the purposes of having a gap between the partition wall and the floor is to facilitate easy security screening to prevent people from hiding in the toilets for whatever agenda. If somebody fainted in the cubicle, would anybody be able to detect the incident? Have the authorities think about the security implications? Solving a problem without thinking critically about its implications does not fit the image of an institute of higher learning.
Jeffrey Huang
that is not the correct culture a school should bring across to the people.
anyway a $5 pinhole camera from taobao does the trick with the gap underneath.
anyway a $5 pinhole camera from taobao does the trick with the gap underneath.
Tommie Vale
Just install cctv at each shower cubicle. So one guard can monitor everything happening inside the cubicles in his control room to see whether the person inside is really bathing or doing hanky panky things with another person.
Kua Hoe Say
Good to hear these quick response & measures. Its not ideal to always requiring some crisis to trigger action, but in real life it happens as attention & resources are often prioritized. Only few farsighted ones preemptive problems.
Sg punishment is one of most harsh in world, yet people commit crimes including capital punishment drug trafficking, proving below are more essentials than heavy punishment as deterence.
1)Morality instilling is still utmost important in current chaotic world spreading & glorifying with West perverted value. It must start from childhood upbringing, requiring gov to recruit nation Best talents as teachers to cultivate & multiply equivalent ir higher talents of good morality. Teacher position must be elevated to highest like ancient to draw devoted talents.
2)Preventive is better than deterence, they should work together. Secured toilet is one. Students self care group to help educate new students & look out for potential crimes are effective.
3) Tertiary marriage problem should not be prioritized over safety & morality to condone hanky panky & soft handling. How to resolve is another topic.
3) Conditional Rehabilitation system is still required in this internet information explosive era to avoid wiping out hefty layer of intellectuals that are borderline influence.
To illustrate the severity of existing world perverted moral value, as UK Scotland yard chief once suggested why conditional warning was better solution than arresting all UK paedophiles: "If we prosecute all paedophiles, the police force & courts will be overwhelmed from handling more serious crimes, prisons are overflowing mixing lesser with dangerous criminals, more public funds are diverted, and *UK devoid of decent free men*."
Of course public was outrage. But why did he risk to say so esp last sentence **?
I believe he comprehended the severity that London was an infamous capital of paedophile. Problem is so deep seated widespread, from top most royals & powerful politicians to bottom commoners.
To prosecute all will cause a collapse of nation. So he is of opinion that what deem not a threat to social security (like serial rapist of minors & traffickers) should be warned, fined & rehab, such as those watching child porn or having consensus sex with minor, etc.
We always need to optimize, not maximize.
Sg punishment is one of most harsh in world, yet people commit crimes including capital punishment drug trafficking, proving below are more essentials than heavy punishment as deterence.
1)Morality instilling is still utmost important in current chaotic world spreading & glorifying with West perverted value. It must start from childhood upbringing, requiring gov to recruit nation Best talents as teachers to cultivate & multiply equivalent ir higher talents of good morality. Teacher position must be elevated to highest like ancient to draw devoted talents.
2)Preventive is better than deterence, they should work together. Secured toilet is one. Students self care group to help educate new students & look out for potential crimes are effective.
3) Tertiary marriage problem should not be prioritized over safety & morality to condone hanky panky & soft handling. How to resolve is another topic.
3) Conditional Rehabilitation system is still required in this internet information explosive era to avoid wiping out hefty layer of intellectuals that are borderline influence.
To illustrate the severity of existing world perverted moral value, as UK Scotland yard chief once suggested why conditional warning was better solution than arresting all UK paedophiles: "If we prosecute all paedophiles, the police force & courts will be overwhelmed from handling more serious crimes, prisons are overflowing mixing lesser with dangerous criminals, more public funds are diverted, and *UK devoid of decent free men*."
Of course public was outrage. But why did he risk to say so esp last sentence **?
I believe he comprehended the severity that London was an infamous capital of paedophile. Problem is so deep seated widespread, from top most royals & powerful politicians to bottom commoners.
To prosecute all will cause a collapse of nation. So he is of opinion that what deem not a threat to social security (like serial rapist of minors & traffickers) should be warned, fined & rehab, such as those watching child porn or having consensus sex with minor, etc.
We always need to optimize, not maximize.
黄柏安
You can only find such weird kiasu looking shower doors in NUS , nowhere else in the world. Professor Ho should be given a prize for coming out with such kiasu design by the architectural faculty.
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