Friday, May 24, 2019

China denounces US 'rumours' and 'lies' about Huawei ties to Beijing
Read more at https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/business/china-denounces-us-rumours-and-lies-about-huawei-ties-to-beijing-11561864

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Seng Wan Tan
"fabricating rumours after he said the chief executive of China's Huawei Technologies Co Ltd was lying about his company's ties to the Beijing government" - Fake News... How about ST (Singapore Technologies) Group - link to SG's Government? (I am just asking question. I am not spreading fake news). Now with the Fake New Law, I am worried whenever I type something... how come got this uneasy feeling ???
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Lam Chian Leong
(1) Are you assuming US defense contractors like Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Raytheon etc have no links to US government?

(2) Then how do you explain Snowden download of NSA documents on NSA spying of US citizens and citizens of other Countries using US equipment?
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Lam Chian Leong
Snowden reveal that :-

(1) NSA was paying U.S. private tech companies for clandestine access to their communications networks.

(2) NSA does not limit its data collection to national security issues, accusing the agency of conducting industrial espionage.

(3) U.S. had spied on Brazil, France, Mexico,[145] Britain,[146] China,[147] Germany,[148] and Spain,[149] as well as 35 world leaders.
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Lam Chian Leong
(1) In 2013, 78% of Lockheed Martin's revenues came from military sales; it topped the list of US federal government contractors and received nearly 10% of the funds paid out by the Pentagon.

(2) In both 2008 and 2009, Boeing was second on the list of Top 100 US Federal Contractors.

(3) So wonder how does US defense contractors has no link with US Government - and yet can sell defense equipment or other equipment to US Government?
Does it make sense?
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Lam Chian Leong
(1) So wonder why the need to bring in ST Engineering into the discussion?

(2) It is the squabble between US and China over geopolitical influence.
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Seng Wan Tan
Lam Chian Leong Walaueh... cannot see the joke is it... so serious for what??? Alamak... :) :) :)
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Lam Chian Leong
Seng Wan Tan -
(1) When talking about US and China - we should make the issue transparent.

(2) Else someone with bad intent can bring out the same excuse - to pin us down.


(3) Now the 2 giants are at one another's throat.

(4) Better don't crack unnecessary joke - that draw us into the fray.
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Seng Wan Tan
Lam Chian Leong Just bring you back to the right context of my intention... I was trying pull a fast one on "fake new law" if you still cannot understand my post / intention ... I know when to have some fun and when to be serious... hahahaha :) :) :) Whether to crack joke or not is my right... you also want to control me like TRUMP... Mnnnnnnnnn Wow !!!
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Lam Chian Leong
Seng Wan Tan -
(1) Well you have the right to crack joke.

(2) It is also my right to do damage control.
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Lam Chian Leong
(1) Boeing is one of US top defense contractor and has close link to the US military.

(2) But yet Boeing is selling their airplanes worldwide - even to China.

(3) So I can't reconcile the argument put forth by the US side.
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Seng Wan Tan
Lam Chian Leong Hahahaha... your choice, I never say cannot... Hahahaha ... sound like TRUMP... !!! Hahahaha... Walaueh, use big word "damage control" aiya... you win liao !!! hahahaha :) :) :) I did not realise I am so influential WOW...!!! that you have to do damage control... xiao si ren... 笑死人... I am just a small fry... 小人物... so serious, "damage control"... hahahaha :) :) :)
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Lam Chian Leong
Seng Wan Tan
(1) 小人物 when say the wrong thing - can cause damage. 祸从口出。
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Seng Wan Tan
Lam Chian Leong Hey friend... what have I said is wrong in your context??? So you are a judge here to tell people you are right or wrong... You another TRUMP... ??? You really sound like TRUMP... Walaueh... you ok or not? Who are you to say right or wrong? Who are you???
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Lam Chian Leong
Seng Wan Tan -
(1) You mention ST Engineering and Singapore - are you suggesting that we are similar to Huawei and the China Government?

(2) So are you suggesting US to do the same for us?
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Lam Chian Leong
(1) Then compare that to US defense contractors to US Government - aren't they in the same shoes as us?

(2) Isn't this damage control?

(3) In the 1st place, why you want to draw us into this comparison - and bring us unnecessary trouble?

(4) Isn't the current US-China trade war - bad enough to impact us?

(5) And you are suggesting more hit on us?

(6) Isn't this 祸从口出。
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Seng Wan Tan
Lam Chian Leong Hey friend, I already tell you that I am using that context to pull a fast one on "fake new law"... do you understand...??? You are assuming a lot of things.... cool down man... ASSUME - Make an ASS of U and ME... take it easy man...cool...ok cool... breathe in breathe out... cool... cool down.. (BTW I use Singapore Technologies, I did not use ST Engineering, when you are hot... you cannot even read properly). Alamak... !!! ok... cool...
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Lam Chian Leong
Seng Wan Tan -
(1) Alright i won't want to prolong this debate.

(2) Like what i say, this is a public forum and is read by anyone who has connection to the internet.

(3) Making this issue transparent and bring out all the facts - will ensure that we will not be drawn into the unnecessary fray - which is senseless right from the start.

(4) By the way, ST group - is ST Engineering group --- and we have many business interest with both China and US.

(5) So be careful with what we say.
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Lee Ricky
We as Chinese must support our motherland n don’t let others bully we Chinese . I will switch from I phone 2 Huawei .Long live our motherland . Our forefathers has been bully 4 donkey years b4 we are born .Support our motherland if u think u are Chinese 
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Albert Kwek
US think that he is King. When he says you are guilty, the rest of allied country have to obey. Whether their Boeing or Lockheed are government linked company are not important. No democracy no Justice.
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