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Lam Chian Leong
(1) This is a 两败俱伤 trade war.
(2) Both China and US stand to lose in this technological war and trade war.
(3) However, if Huawei have staying power to last until 2020 (hopefully if a new President that favor multi-lateral trade win) - such as getting hold on its 1.45 billion domestic market to finance its grow and maintain profit.
Possible that China can overcome the difficulty.
(4) As interim measures, without access to Google Play store - there is a workaround to access youtube, facebook, eg. :-
- use Chinese web browser
- type in the url eg. www.youtube.com, www.facebook.com etc --- to access these apps.
(5) But as there are inconvenience to access such apps (not through Google apps store) --- the price of Huawei phone will need to be cheaper to attract foreign buyers.
(2) Both China and US stand to lose in this technological war and trade war.
(3) However, if Huawei have staying power to last until 2020 (hopefully if a new President that favor multi-lateral trade win) - such as getting hold on its 1.45 billion domestic market to finance its grow and maintain profit.
Possible that China can overcome the difficulty.
(4) As interim measures, without access to Google Play store - there is a workaround to access youtube, facebook, eg. :-
- use Chinese web browser
- type in the url eg. www.youtube.com, www.facebook.com etc --- to access these apps.
(5) But as there are inconvenience to access such apps (not through Google apps store) --- the price of Huawei phone will need to be cheaper to attract foreign buyers.
Benny Potter
This marks the end of Huawei.
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Madeline Tan
黄柏安 calling all. Asian companies to unite and ban these anti competition and petty loser behavior
Solomon Ashtwo
I'm not a Huawei phone user, but Huawei will be my next phone. I will support banning Huawei unless US give a solid proof of Huawei wrongdoing and banning Huawei is a justified punishment, otherwise I will against it and so do any sound minded person.
If banning Huawei is only to hurt a country or limit competition, we all have duty to stand up against it. This article shows how deeply our life are dependent on US product, and cutting off Huawei will make worse.
If banning Huawei is only to hurt a country or limit competition, we all have duty to stand up against it. This article shows how deeply our life are dependent on US product, and cutting off Huawei will make worse.
Madeline Tan
Agree and all ban Google and youtube of all form of advertising if you are part of Asian companies.
Ching Buyching
Who is going to investigate how they stole all the tech from the unsuspecting and naive canadians with Nortel. Biggest IP steal in tech history when Huawei was asking for offshore services and then stole the switch and GSM tech
Antonio Reus
Huawei can make new hardware handsets for another company with access to Android and Google apps.
Without access to Android and Google apps, new Huawei handsets can be rooted and get access to the latest Android and Google apps. Huawei can then release updates of its EMUIX and camera apps for these rooted phones.
Not a big deal and Huawei handsets without Android and Google apps will be cheaper!
Without access to Android and Google apps, new Huawei handsets can be rooted and get access to the latest Android and Google apps. Huawei can then release updates of its EMUIX and camera apps for these rooted phones.
Not a big deal and Huawei handsets without Android and Google apps will be cheaper!
Swee Meng Ling
Now it has made Europe, Japan and China government of legalising US services and components cannot be the sole and primary source be all justifiable. There is no security when dealing with US, anything can be weaponised, they shall exploit it. If they have a button to their mother to kill her so to kill you, they shall press it when they think they are loosing.
Soen Seng Thio
This is the stupidest move the US govt ever come up with.
firstly, US tell the world Hwa Wei post National Security risk as it can spy for Chinese govt.
Now Google comes into the picture and compile with the US govt requirement.
So what stop Google from releasing critical information of individual, or countries to US govt.
thus US companies are spying tools , isn't it National Security to the rest of the world.
Second, Hwa Wei had prepared for this since 2018. It is an golden opportunity for Hwa Wei to introduce their IOS officially.
Hwa Wei is the no 2 Mobile Phone suppliers .
Third, US suppliers bear the blunt from this policy. $11 billions loss of business.
The US govt is forcing hard to make the Chinese govt to comply with their demand and agree to their terms in the one side terms in the trade negotiations.
by doing so the US govt has make long term blunder
firstly, US tell the world Hwa Wei post National Security risk as it can spy for Chinese govt.
Now Google comes into the picture and compile with the US govt requirement.
So what stop Google from releasing critical information of individual, or countries to US govt.
thus US companies are spying tools , isn't it National Security to the rest of the world.
Second, Hwa Wei had prepared for this since 2018. It is an golden opportunity for Hwa Wei to introduce their IOS officially.
Hwa Wei is the no 2 Mobile Phone suppliers .
Third, US suppliers bear the blunt from this policy. $11 billions loss of business.
The US govt is forcing hard to make the Chinese govt to comply with their demand and agree to their terms in the one side terms in the trade negotiations.
by doing so the US govt has make long term blunder
KT Tan
I think at the end of the day, this news might send potential customers to flock in and purchase more Huawei sets before the ban kicks in. A good phone is a good phone. Until their own brand (made in USA) can make more practical and reliable phone sets, then people would reconsider buying USA brands again. Using unscrupulous ways and means to belittle the performance of the Brand is morally unacceptable.
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Benny Potter
This marks the end of Huawei.
Madeline Tan
黄柏安 calling all. Asian companies to unite and ban these anti competition and petty loser behavior
Arsh Arora
Madeline Tan lol. Wishful thinkimg. Why would other Asian countries severe their ties with the US just for the sake of China? China anyway doesnt have good relations with any of its neighbours. Lol.
Solomon Ashtwo
I'm not a Huawei phone user, but Huawei will be my next phone. I will support banning Huawei unless US give a solid proof of Huawei wrongdoing and banning Huawei is a justified punishment, otherwise I will against it and so do any sound minded person.
If banning Huawei is only to hurt a country or limit competition, we all have duty to stand up against it. This article shows how deeply our life are dependent on US product, and cutting off Huawei will make worse.
If banning Huawei is only to hurt a country or limit competition, we all have duty to stand up against it. This article shows how deeply our life are dependent on US product, and cutting off Huawei will make worse.
Madeline Tan
Agree and all ban Google and youtube of all form of advertising if you are part of Asian companies.
Nimrod Lee
Madeline Tan u juz talk like lim jui (easy like drinking water)...no wonder u are not any company CEO
Ching Buyching
Who is going to investigate how they stole all the tech from the unsuspecting and naive canadians with Nortel. Biggest IP steal in tech history when Huawei was asking for offshore services and then stole the switch and GSM tech
Solomon Ashtwo
If I made a perfect pumpkin soup and sell well, my neighbor use the same formula by reverse engineer how I make the pumpkin soup, is this consider stealing? Or copying? The way tech company patent their idea is really hilarious. If competitor cannot copy the functionality of an existing entrepreneur, that is anti competition.
I wonder if Huawei ever broke into Nortel office to 'steal' their trade secrets.
I wonder if Huawei ever broke into Nortel office to 'steal' their trade secrets.
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Antonio Reus
Huawei can make new hardware handsets for another company with access to Android and Google apps.
Without access to Android and Google apps, new Huawei handsets can be rooted and get access to the latest Android and Google apps. Huawei can then release updates of its EMUIX and camera apps for these rooted phones.
Not a big deal and Huawei handsets without Android and Google apps will be cheaper!
Without access to Android and Google apps, new Huawei handsets can be rooted and get access to the latest Android and Google apps. Huawei can then release updates of its EMUIX and camera apps for these rooted phones.
Not a big deal and Huawei handsets without Android and Google apps will be cheaper!
Arsh Arora
And why would anyone buy rooted devices? That too from China?
What huwaei can do is to fork android since it is open source. That's it.
What huwaei can do is to fork android since it is open source. That's it.
Reply · 1h
Swee Meng Ling
Now it has made Europe, Japan and China government of legalising US services and components cannot be the sole and primary source be all justifiable. There is no security when dealing with US, anything can be weaponised, they shall exploit it. If they have a button to their mother to kill her so to kill you, they shall press it when they think they are loosing.
Moses Ting
Yes, they are sore losers who can't embrace others' success, and stand up to the competition. Instead, they resort to despicable tactics. Simple solution, ban Apple in China as what US banned anything that they can't compete.
Arsh Arora
Moses Ting haha.. Pls ban apple and see if Chinese buy Huawei. Hahah. Sour grapes
Reply · 1h
Yang Teck Huat
Just wait for the next US president and everything will be "business as usual"
Arsh Arora
Eric Koo democrats like hillary will be even more bullish against china. What trump has started is getting a lot of support from democrats as well. So dun wish for trump to go away. Wish Chinese start innovating instead and not copying.
Reply · 58m
Wee Beng
Apple can single handedly compete with Android and PC, can huawei do it? Huawei initial offerrings maybe crappy but time is on our side to have more alternatives.
Yang Teck Huat
After switching to Huawei for almost a year, I will say my next phone will still be Huawei. Excellent user experience.
Soen Seng Thio
This is the stupidest move the US govt ever come up with.
firstly, US tell the world Hwa Wei post National Security risk as it can spy for Chinese govt.
Now Google comes into the picture and compile with the US govt requirement.
So what stop Google from releasing critical information of individual, or countries to US govt.
thus US companies are spying tools , isn't it National Security to the rest of the world.
Second, Hwa Wei had prepared for this since 2018. It is an golden opportunity for Hwa Wei to introduce their IOS officially.
Hwa Wei is the no 2 Mobile Phone suppliers .
Third, US suppliers bear the blunt from this policy. $11 billions loss of business.…See More
firstly, US tell the world Hwa Wei post National Security risk as it can spy for Chinese govt.
Now Google comes into the picture and compile with the US govt requirement.
So what stop Google from releasing critical information of individual, or countries to US govt.
thus US companies are spying tools , isn't it National Security to the rest of the world.
Second, Hwa Wei had prepared for this since 2018. It is an golden opportunity for Hwa Wei to introduce their IOS officially.
Hwa Wei is the no 2 Mobile Phone suppliers .
Third, US suppliers bear the blunt from this policy. $11 billions loss of business.…See More
Arsh Arora
Hey half educated, Google hasnot done sth on its own. It needs to comply with the US govt orders of putting Huawei into the blacklist so no US company can deal with them now. Lol, u and ur rants.
Reply · 57m
Richard Kam
US still act like in 1900 thinking that they can bring China to their knees. Maybe Trump's great grandfather is one of the soldiers who ransacked the Summer Palace in Beijing.
Reply · 51m
KT Tan
I think at the end of the day, this news might send potential customers to flock in and purchase more Huawei sets before the ban kicks in. A good phone is a good phone. Until their own brand (made in USA) can make more practical and reliable phone sets, then people would reconsider buying USA brands again.
Using unscrupulous ways and means to belittle the performance of the Brand is morally unacceptable. I was wondering if Apple or Google could / had also been used for the same purpose that was touted by DT (about Huawei)?
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Using unscrupulous ways and means to belittle the performance of the Brand is morally unacceptable. I was wondering if Apple or Google could / had also been used for the same purpose that was touted by DT (about Huawei)?
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Winston Ling
i think a lot of Chinese hardware makers are still held hostage by USA because most devices use American OS, like Microsoft Windows, Apple's MacOS and iOS, Google's Android and ChromeOS, Maybe its time for a new OS that is non American to be more popular to break free from this dependency, like Linux etc.
Arsh Arora
Try that. Even American companies like amazon couldn't succeed with their fire os. Os triopoly will not go away. Chinese os will even be more under scrutiny since it is from China, cannot trust
Reply · 56m
Winston Ling
i think if more countries get together to stop using Windows and Mac, it will give 3rd party OS new life. USA says Huawei is controlled by the Chinese govt, how is Google or Android any different if they bow to USA Administration pressure to do the same?
Lam Chian Leong
(1) This is a 两败俱伤 trade war.
(2) Both China and US stand to lose in this technological war and trade war.
(3) However, if Huawei have staying power to last until 2020 (hopefully if a new President that favor multi-lateral trade win) - such as getting hold on its 1.45 billion domestic market to finance its grow and maintain profit.
Possible that China can overcome the difficulty.
(4) As interim measures, without access to Google Play store - there is a workaround to access youtube, facebook, eg. :-
- use Chinese web browser
- type in the url eg. www.youtube.com, www.facebook.com etc --- to access these apps.
(5) But as there are inconvenience to access such apps (not through Google apps store) --- the price of Huawei phone will need to be cheaper to attract foreign buyers.
(2) Both China and US stand to lose in this technological war and trade war.
(3) However, if Huawei have staying power to last until 2020 (hopefully if a new President that favor multi-lateral trade win) - such as getting hold on its 1.45 billion domestic market to finance its grow and maintain profit.
Possible that China can overcome the difficulty.
(4) As interim measures, without access to Google Play store - there is a workaround to access youtube, facebook, eg. :-
- use Chinese web browser
- type in the url eg. www.youtube.com, www.facebook.com etc --- to access these apps.
(5) But as there are inconvenience to access such apps (not through Google apps store) --- the price of Huawei phone will need to be cheaper to attract foreign buyers.
Olivia Tang
Wah, heng ahh! I almost bought P30 Pro a few days ago; otherwise resale value would have dropped. Now cannot update google apps via play store liao....
Pinkpink Pink
Huawei is as good as buried.
China dun represent HW or vice-versa, so it's not about China.
China dun represent HW or vice-versa, so it's not about China.
Wahida Mohamat
Android is a platform. Chrome YouTube maps and mail clients are application on platform. Playstore helps you to install the application on the the phone. Technically, Google has not stopped working with Huawei because you can always install those apps separately after buying Huawei.
Huawei just need to ensure the phone seller can help buyer install and update.
Also Google has open the platform so that developers can develop mail clients or even maps using location service.
The ban is Google working together with Huawei, not Huawei customers assessing Google services
Huawei just need to ensure the phone seller can help buyer install and update.
Also Google has open the platform so that developers can develop mail clients or even maps using location service.
The ban is Google working together with Huawei, not Huawei customers assessing Google services
黄柏安
There is always something called VPN that allow you to do the impossible.
Reply · 1m
Lam Chian Leong
黄柏安 -
(1) There is no need to use a VPN from the smartphone to access those apps that are accessible via the Internet.
(2) Unless those apps are block by telcos or service providers via Firewall or Content Filtering - then VPN will be required to penetrate the firewall or content filtering by encrypting content through the vpn so that firewall or content filter cannot block them.
(3) In fact those apps mention above can be access via any web browsers (whether US made or China made browsers) - as long as the web browsers indicate the URL link of the various apps.
(4) Huawei develop its own Huawei OS, create the respective icons to link to the various mobile apps to launch the apps.
(5) For those mobile apps that are written by the various developers for Google Playstore - Huawei can develop its own Huawei Playstore and work with various developers to develop their apps that can be launch by Huawei Playstore.
(6) Thus when Trump want to cut ties to prevent US companies from working with Huawei - is not really a showstopper --- except it is less convenient for consumers who are used to Android.
(7) But if Huawei can cut its prices for its smartphone for foreign market - I think it will still attract foreign market consumers to continue buying Huawei smartphone.
(1) There is no need to use a VPN from the smartphone to access those apps that are accessible via the Internet.
(2) Unless those apps are block by telcos or service providers via Firewall or Content Filtering - then VPN will be required to penetrate the firewall or content filtering by encrypting content through the vpn so that firewall or content filter cannot block them.
(3) In fact those apps mention above can be access via any web browsers (whether US made or China made browsers) - as long as the web browsers indicate the URL link of the various apps.
(4) Huawei develop its own Huawei OS, create the respective icons to link to the various mobile apps to launch the apps.
(5) For those mobile apps that are written by the various developers for Google Playstore - Huawei can develop its own Huawei Playstore and work with various developers to develop their apps that can be launch by Huawei Playstore.
(6) Thus when Trump want to cut ties to prevent US companies from working with Huawei - is not really a showstopper --- except it is less convenient for consumers who are used to Android.
(7) But if Huawei can cut its prices for its smartphone for foreign market - I think it will still attract foreign market consumers to continue buying Huawei smartphone.
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Ebi Komaru
This is quite fatal. The thing that being blocked is not the apps but GMS (Google Mobile Services). The apps has GMS link embedded and it just won't work if it is not a GMS certified device.
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Lam Chian Leong
Ebi Komaru -
(1) Are you sure a device required GMS (Google Mobile Service) to run google map, whatsapp, facebook, gmail, google search engine, youtube etc?
(2) I am using other OS with any web browsers and other search engine and I can run the above without problem.
(1) Are you sure a device required GMS (Google Mobile Service) to run google map, whatsapp, facebook, gmail, google search engine, youtube etc?
(2) I am using other OS with any web browsers and other search engine and I can run the above without problem.
Wahida Mohamat
Can pre install or post install. Is not tied to device. Google cannot ban the user outside China from using Gms. Google collect important big data from. Without data Google has no value
Richard Kam
Necessity is the mother of invention! Give China a few more years they will come out with a new technology to rival Andriod. The US bullying has finally made my decision to change to a Huawei P30.
Arsh Arora
Awwww.. Sour grapes. By that time Huawei or its phone unit will be a dead horse. Hahaha.
Reply · 55m
Arsh Arora
Superb move. I work in network industry and I have seen Huawei routers copying exact commands from cisco boxes. Word to word. Even the error messages. They are a bunch of thi efs. Good that they were banned.
China was so high nosed, let's see now what it does. Will they allow google and WhatsApp in China? Tit for tat
China was so high nosed, let's see now what it does. Will they allow google and WhatsApp in China? Tit for tat
黄柏安
What is wrong with copying if it is a good idea? The American language is a direct copy of English language and the Japanese language also copy from the Chinese language and developed further. By having an open platform like android is really encouraging users to copy and improve on it so that it can flourish. Windows lost its popularity because of the closed door policy. Google is a commercial setup and it will not cut off the Chinese business links but instead Google will find a way to go round the US restrictions and still maintaining the China business which is indeed a very large market.
Reply · 24m
Arsh Arora
黄柏安 let's see how. China should allow Google and Facebook in China now, if they are serious about collaboration and being open and fair.
Reply · 1m
Eric Bachtiar
Awww the west is losing the 5G race and so they resort to this. Go on Huawei! Your move next.
Edward Seng
I personally believe China Technologies will head very fast for catching up America soon.
Ching Lee
Huawei should be banned. Good riddance
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Dave Tan
Whether Huawei can survive or not, its no longer the utmost important thing.
This incident let us see how petty is the American. Because they don't want to lose to China in tech advancement, they are capable to do all despicable ways to bring others down.
US can do that to Huawei, they can do it to any other countries and companies too!
I think it's the time the whole world to stand together to go against this world biggest bully! Else, who know you could be US next target.
This incident let us see how petty is the American. Because they don't want to lose to China in tech advancement, they are capable to do all despicable ways to bring others down.
US can do that to Huawei, they can do it to any other countries and companies too!
I think it's the time the whole world to stand together to go against this world biggest bully! Else, who know you could be US next target.
Fdgeg Efeogeo
Google maps, gmail, docs/sheets, youtube, photos, etc will not work on Huawei phones soon? If so, Nokia phones may be a better choice now...
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