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Ricky Lim
Pedra Branca take how long to resolve? - 29 years !
It started in 1979 by the old hat.
It is resolved by ICJS ruling in 2008.
Singapore can afford to stay calm and patient.
We can have another 29 years to deal with it and all the issues that the old hat raise.
Do this old hat has another 29 years?
It started in 1979 by the old hat.
It is resolved by ICJS ruling in 2008.
Singapore can afford to stay calm and patient.
We can have another 29 years to deal with it and all the issues that the old hat raise.
Do this old hat has another 29 years?
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Ricky Lim
Let this old hat raise all sort of issues in desperation.
We just need to ：-
以不变应万变。
以无招胜有招。
We just need to ：-
以不变应万变。
以无招胜有招。
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Ricky Lim
And we have alot of leverages over the old hat.
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Timeless Zim
take NS training seriously, never let down your guard , stay alert always , be aware and stay sober , this is only the tip of the iceberg ,be prepared to face even more difficult and challenging situations, you never know when and where the serpent will strike again.
Ricky Lim
Our military are many notches that of the old hat - and our troops are well trained.
Even if they intrude their best naval assets - they can be eaily sink.
They only has a few fighting vessels - and we out number the old hat and our weapons system out perform the old hat.
Our sea-skimming cruise missiles can be launched few hundred km away - while their anti-air missiles are only 20 km to 60 km (theoretical limit).
Our ship-to-ship missiles are also longer range than theirs.
We can easily decimate the old hat in 1st strike - if this old hat dare to trigger any arm conflict.
But i don't think we want an armed conflict with our neighbor unless the old hat push us into a corner - when we have no choice but to retaliate.
Even if they intrude their best naval assets - they can be eaily sink.
They only has a few fighting vessels - and we out number the old hat and our weapons system out perform the old hat.
Our sea-skimming cruise missiles can be launched few hundred km away - while their anti-air missiles are only 20 km to 60 km (theoretical limit).
Our ship-to-ship missiles are also longer range than theirs.
We can easily decimate the old hat in 1st strike - if this old hat dare to trigger any arm conflict.
But i don't think we want an armed conflict with our neighbor unless the old hat push us into a corner - when we have no choice but to retaliate.
Ricky Lim
When the old hat tried to instigate many issues - e.g. water agreement, airspace, port limit etc --- it is usually a sign that the old hat is in a "stage of desperation" --- likely to be his many internal problems and try to divert attention - as the old hat will play "external adversaries" to unite his internal rivarlies.
But now with the new information age where social media is proliferating - their internal people can get news --- and his diversion will not be as effective as compared to the past.
His people will know this old trick - and will not fall into his trap.
We can see all the internal problem that this old hat face :-
(1) racial tension
(2) malay rights
(3) coalition difficulties
(4) financial problem
etc --- and the people will feel it - and not fool by his "external distraction".
Thus we should :-
Let this old hat raise all sort of issues in desperation.
We just need to ：-
以不变应万变。
以无招胜有招。
- And we should not over-react to this old hat desperation.
We should :- 要能等待、能忍耐。 所以关键是要能等，不能因为焦虑就频频动作 === because it is the old hat's deperation --- we can wait, we can afford to be patient and calm.
This old hat has very short runway.
Our runway are very long and our resources are very strong --- so why do we want to over-react?
Also the old hat will not dare to do arm provocation - because we can hammer this old hat very badly --- whether air, sea or land.
But now with the new information age where social media is proliferating - their internal people can get news --- and his diversion will not be as effective as compared to the past.
His people will know this old trick - and will not fall into his trap.
We can see all the internal problem that this old hat face :-
(1) racial tension
(2) malay rights
(3) coalition difficulties
(4) financial problem
etc --- and the people will feel it - and not fool by his "external distraction".
Thus we should :-
Let this old hat raise all sort of issues in desperation.
We just need to ：-
以不变应万变。
以无招胜有招。
- And we should not over-react to this old hat desperation.
We should :- 要能等待、能忍耐。 所以关键是要能等，不能因为焦虑就频频动作 === because it is the old hat's deperation --- we can wait, we can afford to be patient and calm.
This old hat has very short runway.
Our runway are very long and our resources are very strong --- so why do we want to over-react?
Also the old hat will not dare to do arm provocation - because we can hammer this old hat very badly --- whether air, sea or land.
Georgie Lee
It is not possible when you are dealing with that 93 year old snake. You should know by now. Just bring them to court.
Breeke Lo
Other than hoping they reciprocate our "peaceful, professional" calls, is there anything else we can do? We don't hv any diplomatic, economic or whatsoever leverage against them at all? This is worrying.
Augustine Teo
worry what ? we welcome intruders and more will come for logistics support food water bring their women have sex after being bored at sea onn vessel before their kepala says ok move out...
and now wait for meeting... i m laughing like fxxk .
and now wait for meeting... i m laughing like fxxk .
Daniel Goh
Breeke Lo ... yes there is. Ding dong here and there and wait for Dr.M to die of old age...lol. Somehow feel that this whole saga is part 1 of the whole Water price-Maritime-airspace-eggs-seafood package.
Msians are gtg impatient with the new G at its pace of reforms. All they have done is arrest Najib and his cronies... but they have no concrete plans for the future economically and lately there might be undercurrents of disunity in the party in addition to race politics and issues which the new gov just cannot seem to shake off.
So all this crap from M'sia in e last few months are merely to serve as a distraction for it's own folks and perhaps our G is playing the game slowly to give to give room for escalation and also to test Dr M.'s patience. Obviously, Dr M has run out of ideas on what else to do with us on the water price, pedra branca, air and maritime territorial disputes and now he starting to throw lousy cards at us.
In a sense, us not responding too resolutely might also help in preserving good relations with M'sia once the whole Dr M. drama dies down...or Dr M.dies.
Msians are gtg impatient with the new G at its pace of reforms. All they have done is arrest Najib and his cronies... but they have no concrete plans for the future economically and lately there might be undercurrents of disunity in the party in addition to race politics and issues which the new gov just cannot seem to shake off.
So all this crap from M'sia in e last few months are merely to serve as a distraction for it's own folks and perhaps our G is playing the game slowly to give to give room for escalation and also to test Dr M.'s patience. Obviously, Dr M has run out of ideas on what else to do with us on the water price, pedra branca, air and maritime territorial disputes and now he starting to throw lousy cards at us.
In a sense, us not responding too resolutely might also help in preserving good relations with M'sia once the whole Dr M. drama dies down...or Dr M.dies.
K Tan Don
Breeke Lo : If you are fair, you shouldn't be directing all issues only to the 93 years old..some issues were not created by him..especially on land issues in Johor..I fully understood a number of you don't like him, but in fairness. some people benefited a lot from land reclaimation in Johor but it looks like every single issue and anger is directed only to the 93 years old...some issues were created during the last BN rule, some issues were created by the new idiot Johor MB..and so on...also please note that if you have an issue related to the state, of course our federal government will have to side with the state..
Breeke Lo
Can someone pls inform M our jets can reach Putrajaya in under 10mins undeterred and bomb his ass down from his hospice bed?
Ang Kok Leng Isaac
Bro, I don't think your approach works. If everyone use this tatic, there will always be a war going on. War is a last resort. Not something you want to put as a first option.
Breeke Lo
Ang Kok Leng Isaac Ang Kok Leng Isaac Don't worry bro, there won't be war. We're both FPDA members and whoever strikes first will be met with retaliation from FPDA allies. So both sides won't strike first. Just making the point that if they are really stupid enough to strike first, we are capable of making them surrender in 10mins.
Ang Kok Leng Isaac
Breeke Lo Ok cheers. Anyway FPDA is not an ally force. Its just a defence agreement between the 5 nations. Pretty sure they will make some noise but no one will ever interfere.
Breeke Lo
Ang Kok Leng Isaac
FPDA will intervene if the situation warrants it, in the name of peace and stability.
"Formed in 1971, the FPDA plays a key role in the regional security architecture, under which the five powers are to consult each other “immediately” in the event of an attack for the purpose of deciding what measures should be taken in response, though there is no specific commitment to intervene militarily."
FPDA will intervene if the situation warrants it, in the name of peace and stability.
"Formed in 1971, the FPDA plays a key role in the regional security architecture, under which the five powers are to consult each other “immediately” in the event of an attack for the purpose of deciding what measures should be taken in response, though there is no specific commitment to intervene militarily."
K Tan Don
Breeke Lo : Hi..on and off..you know I also get bored with this quarrelling...is very much easier to whack those BN cybertroopers before GE14 ..but sometimes difficult to debate with you guys because sometimes all of a sudden our govern pull back or sometimes one minister say something stupid..anyway I still support my government position on the water agreement and airspace management return..as for the Johor port expansion, I am not able to comment..
Ang Kok Leng Isaac
Breeke Lo yup that's right. There will not be a committed military interference. Just 'consulting' only.
Swee Meng Ling
After PH become government, a lot of Johor Chinese and Indian have forgotten that their well beings are tied more tightly to Singapore than to Malaysia well being. How many are working here? How many are even starting business here that they cant do in Johor? How many have benefited from Singaporean spending in Johor, and from the Malaysians spending from their Singapore wages. Those who are more able, are even promoted to what they can never achieve in Malaysia. Loke wants to use airspace management to create jobs for Malaysia, to what kind of Malaysian? to give to those who can, or those who cannot? Definitely not to those who can. Malaysian Chinese, are you fighting for something that you can have a good share of a cake, to something that you cannot have at all. Majula Malaysia, Majula special rights and priviledges.
K Tan Don
Swee Meng Ling : Sir, if you are a minister for that country, you have to fight for the benefit of that country..just like Mr Khaw, although a Malaysian originally but now a Singapore Minister..so naturally he is fighting for your benefit..if Mr Loke is not fighting for our cause, we would have demand for his sacking or resignation.
Breeke Lo
Ang Kok Leng Isaac
Probably these 2 references can shed more light on the scope of FDPA, beyond being confined to that as a consultant.
James Wise, Australian High Commissioner, Kuala Lumpur, 2006
FDPA acts as a DETERRENT in the event that there is a strategic challenge to Malaysia or Singapore. In this sense it contributes to regional stability as well as offering important opportunities for joint exercises and training. (caps mine)
UK Defence Journal Website
According to the Five Power Defence Arrangements, in a case of attack or significant threat against Malaysia and Singapore, ministers of the five nations are to consult each other immediately for the purpose of deciding what actions should be CARRIED OUT SEPARATELY OR JOINTLY in handling such scenario with the objective to keep both countries safe. (caps mine)
And taking into account the fact that there are physical military presence of UK and Australian forces in Malaysia (Butterworth) and Singapore (Sembawang), and the annual FDPA joint air, sea and land exercises .. it doesn't fit very well with your assertion of "Just 'consulting' only"?
Probably these 2 references can shed more light on the scope of FDPA, beyond being confined to that as a consultant.
James Wise, Australian High Commissioner, Kuala Lumpur, 2006
FDPA acts as a DETERRENT in the event that there is a strategic challenge to Malaysia or Singapore. In this sense it contributes to regional stability as well as offering important opportunities for joint exercises and training. (caps mine)
UK Defence Journal Website
According to the Five Power Defence Arrangements, in a case of attack or significant threat against Malaysia and Singapore, ministers of the five nations are to consult each other immediately for the purpose of deciding what actions should be CARRIED OUT SEPARATELY OR JOINTLY in handling such scenario with the objective to keep both countries safe. (caps mine)
And taking into account the fact that there are physical military presence of UK and Australian forces in Malaysia (Butterworth) and Singapore (Sembawang), and the annual FDPA joint air, sea and land exercises .. it doesn't fit very well with your assertion of "Just 'consulting' only"?
K Tan Don
Breeke Lo : We where got dare to threaten you ? You are sending your army to invade us woh..anyway now we also requested to take back our Southern Johor airspace management. With these threatening of war and invasion from you guys, it is more important we have control over that airspace ourselves
..honestly don't know what our ministers will request next..is like that one mah..the more longer a disagreement get, the more it blossom into other disputes and disagreements..the frustration builds up over period of time..of yes, in near future, we will also need to keep watch a lunatic from Singapore will come down to JB or not..you know..he is pretty dangerous to us..
..honestly don't know what our ministers will request next..is like that one mah..the more longer a disagreement get, the more it blossom into other disputes and disagreements..the frustration builds up over period of time..of yes, in near future, we will also need to keep watch a lunatic from Singapore will come down to JB or not..you know..he is pretty dangerous to us..
K Tan Don
Breeke Lo : Start negotiation on the water agreement please, maybe provocations may become less..you may argue, of well, even if you agree to rectify the cost, but there is no guarantee there is no further provocation..perhaps, but by insisting to stick to status quo for the water agreements, definitely more disputes and provoccations will pop-up..this is what I see..maybe I could be wrong.
K Tan Don
Breeke Lo : Don't see it as blackmails..we are requesting..any way some of things we ought to take back, we will take back, especially the Southern Johor airspace control..is time we serious about ensure the security of our territories...your government should know that..don't tell us grandfather story..how well you had been managing it.
Swee Meng Ling
Airspace belongs to Johor, but the airspace management is about safety and the lives in the airplane. These lives do not belong to Johor. Kaw is trying to tell that Singapore shall be forced to say something not nice to the world to show how Malaysia cannot manage the airspace. MH370 case for me a clear case to show their radars were not working, or the people watching the radars were not working, or both of them are not working. Regardless of the outcome, it is not good for relationship. It is almost a foregone conclusion to know how ICAO shall decide.
K Tan Don
Breeke Lo : Tell us which bilateral agreement you want to terminate ? Please inform Putrajaya..most of the bilateral agreements are disadvantage to us..actually it is a good thing you suggested this..if you are doing that..thanks for doing us the favour..it is giving us green light to terminate whatever not favorable to us..then we both can retire from commenting..no need to argue..happy ending.
Hendic Tan
Breeke Lo Sounds perfect..but don't just talk talk but no balls balls ! Bomb and shoot and see...
Paul Tan
Yes. Finally Khaw is making sense . With more than half a million Malaysian in Singapore at anytime and we have relatives and friends who are Malaysian we simply cannot fight with them . Also don't forget 1 out of 3 persons here is a foreigner , we don't know who would become our enemies.
Steven Mok
The world knew Mahathir is a difficult man to deal with because he never care what is right or wrong. He can allows good things or wrong to happen if he is happy, he knows it's wrong but it's OK when he's in good mood and happy. But he also very petty minded and stubborn, never forget and forgive even over tiny matters like cat fight or fish fight even after many decades. Mahathir will try destroy people even they are nice to him for not obeying him or refused to give in to his unreasonable exorbitant demands.
It's wasting time and efforts to talk when someone deliberately wants to give you tons of trouble. Even worse, he can agreed today but changed tune tomorrow. This is wily and not a gentleman despite being a PM and advanced old age. Only UN can make a difference and decision to settle such unecessary and unprecedented cross border problems and once for all.
Is he a pity man or wisdom man?.
I bet all people know except Mahathir himself.
It's wasting time and efforts to talk when someone deliberately wants to give you tons of trouble. Even worse, he can agreed today but changed tune tomorrow. This is wily and not a gentleman despite being a PM and advanced old age. Only UN can make a difference and decision to settle such unecessary and unprecedented cross border problems and once for all.
Is he a pity man or wisdom man?.
I bet all people know except Mahathir himself.
K Tan Don
Seriously man, when a person being pestered by a ghost, what wiil normally do ? He will ask the ghost what it want ? Tun had been pestering you guys many years for the water tariff renegotiation..unfortunately your government is so stingy..so too bad loh..the ghost keep on pestering you guys loh..then you guy keep on complaining he is nasty..aiyoh..
K Tan Don
Breeke Lo Wrong analogy..we don't give in to terrorist too.but this is request from from another country..if you guys enjoy the pestering, great..if the issues are not handled properly, both countries newer and next generation leaders will inherit the feud, maybe more issues..don't bet too much on Anwar..he is a chameleon..
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Steven Mok
K Tan Don , only greedy and unreasonable ghost kept on pestering for more disregard of law and rules, no different from terrorist.
That's the reason why all people want to get rid of pestering ghost globally
That's the reason why all people want to get rid of pestering ghost globally
K Tan Don
Steven Mok : Seriously, asking to negotiate a 3 sens per gallon is greedy ? Don't show your kiam siap culture here man..How many times have your PUB increase the price of treated water for the past 40 years for you guys ? I tell you the Malays are very simple and accomodating folks..but once you cheat them, or they fell cheated by you..then it is another different story. I have to say, Chinese are more known to be greedy people.
Steven Mok
K Tan Don, not logic based on 3 sen selling. should base on total quantity 250 mil gallon per day.. = is about $70k per day.
You don't just sell a single grain to restaurants for 000000000.3sen, you sell a full gunny sack that cost RM 70 ringgits.
It's a silly wastage to let the untreated water flow into the oceans and gets nothing.
More over this a not a buy and sell issues, it's a 1965 nation separation international binding agreement that cannot be erased without mutual agreed to it regardless of who is governing the country.
You don't just sell a single grain to restaurants for 000000000.3sen, you sell a full gunny sack that cost RM 70 ringgits.
It's a silly wastage to let the untreated water flow into the oceans and gets nothing.
More over this a not a buy and sell issues, it's a 1965 nation separation international binding agreement that cannot be erased without mutual agreed to it regardless of who is governing the country.
K Tan Don
Steven Mok :That contract allows one time water negotiation but your government twisted the fact. and claimt it is now non-negotiable since we did not ask for it in 1986...if someone is upset with you, this makes him more upset than ever..I would not be surprise more bilateral issues may pop-up..well you would prefer the ghost to keep pestering you, keep it up..
用李
Faker K Tan Don enough of your nonsense. We kn u dislike King of Johor.
If u a real Malaysian, good back anx help your party internal fight 1st. The water issue is not for negotiate.
It is Singapore water that malaysia intrude & disrespect to all Singaporean!
Get out of my sight, sick faker!!
If u a real Malaysian, good back anx help your party internal fight 1st. The water issue is not for negotiate.
It is Singapore water that malaysia intrude & disrespect to all Singaporean!
Get out of my sight, sick faker!!
Breeke Lo
K Tan Don i explained to you before right? The water agreement is not only a contract to buy raw water from MY, it is also a contract for MY to buy treated water from SG at a SUBSIDIZED rate if 50sens for 1000 gallon, which we are making an operating loss of RM1.90 per 1000 gallon.
In the broader sense of things, as a long time neighbour and partner, it's not possible to single out an item and say it's unfair. There are so many overlapping other interests and agreements that were made based on existing agreements. There can never be ''fairness" in every single item. You win some here, you lose some there and vice versa. If you dun understand this, there will never be peace. Just like 2 siblings will turn enemies if they think that way.. this is what I always tell my 2 kids.
In the broader sense of things, as a long time neighbour and partner, it's not possible to single out an item and say it's unfair. There are so many overlapping other interests and agreements that were made based on existing agreements. There can never be ''fairness" in every single item. You win some here, you lose some there and vice versa. If you dun understand this, there will never be peace. Just like 2 siblings will turn enemies if they think that way.. this is what I always tell my 2 kids.
K Tan Don
Breeke Lo : Whether it is for raw water, or treated water, let's negotiate the pricing shall we ? If the root of the ongoing bilateral disputes is the water pricing, go to the negotiation table and settle once and for all...rather than dragging on and one and more bilateral issues pop-up..How can start to cham siong or not ? Come on, the agreement allows one time negotiation..your side is not fullfilling that man..
Dave Tan
think it's still too early to say who is right, who is wrong now.
For decades, both countries have not came to an agreement on the territorial boundary of the disputed waters.
Singapore started to patrol the water after started Tuas reclamation and Malaysia did not make noise does not meant now the waters in under Singapore.
So, hopefully they can come into an conclusion on the territorial boundary at the disputed waters.
Else, its should be left to the International Court. I
For decades, both countries have not came to an agreement on the territorial boundary of the disputed waters.
Singapore started to patrol the water after started Tuas reclamation and Malaysia did not make noise does not meant now the waters in under Singapore.
So, hopefully they can come into an conclusion on the territorial boundary at the disputed waters.
Else, its should be left to the International Court. I
K Tan Don
Breeke Lo : Oh yes, it does matter..that what is Trumph doing..reversing all the things signed by Obama..you can still argue that point if BN remain government and they only change Najib as leader..but it is now a total change..so somethings are not business as usual.
Tommie Vale
It's not worth to have war over this. Negotiation and international law must come first. Life still goes on.
Ho Chee Keong
you will trample over me, over my farking dead body.limpeh dig my toes in and bring 10 of you with me.
Mark Chen
Sit down talks to settle these issues once and for all is the best solution... please do not fight because there is no winner...and at the end of day both sides citizens suffers...there will be solution, a give and take solution which both sides must agree to takes...
用李
Sorry is already an intrusion.
Singapore had state clr enough get out before talk. But malaysia head still decide water is his.
Singapore remain calm as is just an intruder not an attack.
There is no room to negotiate, meeting result still stay as state statement.
No one bother who is winner here. Water is belong to us. We will die protecting it.
Singapore had state clr enough get out before talk. But malaysia head still decide water is his.
Singapore remain calm as is just an intruder not an attack.
There is no room to negotiate, meeting result still stay as state statement.
No one bother who is winner here. Water is belong to us. We will die protecting it.
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Dave Tan
You are right. For decades, both countries have not came into any agreement on the territorial boundary of the disputed water.
Singapore started to patrol the area after stateted Tuas reclamation and Malaysia didn't make noise does not meant the waters in under Singapore now.
Thus, its best for both to sit down and talk and come into an conclusion on the territorial boundary, which is left out before Tuas reclamation. Its not necessary, as previously Tuas South area was all sea.
This 用李 is just a trouble maker.
Singapore started to patrol the area after stateted Tuas reclamation and Malaysia didn't make noise does not meant the waters in under Singapore now.
Thus, its best for both to sit down and talk and come into an conclusion on the territorial boundary, which is left out before Tuas reclamation. Its not necessary, as previously Tuas South area was all sea.
This 用李 is just a trouble maker.
K Tan Don
Mark Chen : Actually I also hope there is no war..I am here just to make casual comments whenever there is MYS-SG issue..sorry for this..cause all the BN cybertroopers that I argued with, all gone after GE14..not interested to comment any internal SG issue..seriously I am also tired of all the dispute between the two governments..for the Johor expansion issue, I suggest to your side to talk to the Sultan Johor because I felt it is the state admintration issue..since your government is in good terms with him..maybe something more fruitful may come out if you seek his help.
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Victoria Forss
It is absolutely ridiculous to know there are two Malaysian ships right now IN SPORE TERRITORIAL WATERS !!!!!! REFUSES TO LEAVE.....
As it is.....the country is already so messy heavily down in its financial trilion ringgits debt woes .....no .thanks to Najib !!!!!!
The missing Malaysian airline.....4 years had past and NO NEWS WHATSOEVER MYSTERY......
Now this.......
Creating another international crisis ....!!!!!!
How will Mahathir and Malaysians feel ....if Spore ships STAY IN MALAYSIAN WATERS WITHOUT LEGAL ENTRY AND MARKING ITS BOUNDARY .....???
Wake up, Malaysia !!!!!!!
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU ??????
As it is.....the country is already so messy heavily down in its financial trilion ringgits debt woes .....no .thanks to Najib !!!!!!
The missing Malaysian airline.....4 years had past and NO NEWS WHATSOEVER MYSTERY......
Now this.......
Creating another international crisis ....!!!!!!
How will Mahathir and Malaysians feel ....if Spore ships STAY IN MALAYSIAN WATERS WITHOUT LEGAL ENTRY AND MARKING ITS BOUNDARY .....???
Wake up, Malaysia !!!!!!!
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU ??????
Dave Tan
For decades, both countries have not came into any agreement on the territorial boundary of the disputed waters.
Singapore only started to patrol the area after started Tuas reclamation and Malaysia didn't make noise does not meant the waters is belong to Singapore now.
Since its dusputable, then don't both countries should withdraw their vessels and not only Malaysia prior to the talk?
You should read more on other source instead of just listen to what the Singapore Ministers said. They said its our waters, that's meant its our???
Singapore only started to patrol the area after started Tuas reclamation and Malaysia didn't make noise does not meant the waters is belong to Singapore now.
Since its dusputable, then don't both countries should withdraw their vessels and not only Malaysia prior to the talk?
You should read more on other source instead of just listen to what the Singapore Ministers said. They said its our waters, that's meant its our???
Daniel Tan
At first mot uses harsh talks about this matter and now? All the while the very bassic is by diplomatic mean.
Harsh talks will settle nothing.
Harsh talks will settle nothing.
Dave Tan
Frankly, for decades, both countries have not came into any agreement on the territorial boundary of the disputed waters.
Which meant, its still too early to say its your waters.
In short, don't both countries should withdraw all their vessels prior to the discussion?
When you demanded Malaysia to withdraw their vessels, what aboit ourselves if Mr Khaw want a peaceful and professional way.
Which meant, its still too early to say its your waters.
In short, don't both countries should withdraw all their vessels prior to the discussion?
When you demanded Malaysia to withdraw their vessels, what aboit ourselves if Mr Khaw want a peaceful and professional way.
Dave Tan
Breeke Lo you cannot claim a territorial just because you patrol for 20 years. So before Tuas reclamation, the waters is under who? Why you don't patrol the area before that if its yours?
Or do you meant if today I start to patrol the corridor outside my HDB flat, and after 20 years, the corridor will be mine???
Or do you meant if today I start to patrol the corridor outside my HDB flat, and after 20 years, the corridor will be mine???
Reply · 8h
Breeke Lo
Dave Tan Actually the answer is Yes .. if you can build a house on a piece of land and stay in it for say 20 yrs (10yrs in UK) AND no law enforcement kicks u out or no owner comes to claim it, you can assume ownership of it legally in many countries. Read up on Squatters' Law and Adverse Possession Law.
Patrick Chua
This wily sly old fox will stay at least 2 yrs in office as PM as he wants to ensure his pet proton car business is blooming before he retires & takes over this business.
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