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“But I think the situation seems to be using this technical excuse to trigger demand, to change the airspace arrangement which was brokered by ICAO (International Civil Aviation Organization) long, long ago in 1973, which has worked very well, benefiting all stakeholders in this region," he added.
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Singapore should stand firm in our position and will not give in.
MH370 is a total loss - and up to now untraceable.
How can international airlines rely on Malaysia to do air control?
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Singapore should stand firm in our position and will not give in.
MH370 is a total loss - and up to now untraceable.
How can international airlines rely on Malaysia to do air control?
Alvin Leong
"How can international airlines rely on Malaysia to do air control?"
Well, that is really up to the international airlines right? There are about 56 non-Malaysian airlines flying into KLIA at the moment, if they cannot be trusted, then pretty sure these airlines will not be flying in there right? KLIA airspace is not under Singapore control is it?
They can actually choose not to fly over Malaysia controlled airspace if they don't trust it. For example, BA had flown around Ukraine airspace months before MH17 shoot down while SQ was still flying through it, in fact minutes behind MH17, before the shooting started.
"Transport Minister Lui Tuck Yew told parliament that SIA flight SQ351, was only 90km from the doomed plane - a distance covered in mere minutes by passenger jets."
Well, that is really up to the international airlines right? There are about 56 non-Malaysian airlines flying into KLIA at the moment, if they cannot be trusted, then pretty sure these airlines will not be flying in there right? KLIA airspace is not under Singapore control is it?
They can actually choose not to fly over Malaysia controlled airspace if they don't trust it. For example, BA had flown around Ukraine airspace months before MH17 shoot down while SQ was still flying through it, in fact minutes behind MH17, before the shooting started.
"Transport Minister Lui Tuck Yew told parliament that SIA flight SQ351, was only 90km from the doomed plane - a distance covered in mere minutes by passenger jets."
Alvin Leong - If ICAO (International Civil Aviation Organization) has given us the right - then why should we give up the right?
This arrangement was agreed upon in 1973 by Malaysia, Singapore and other regional states, and subsequently approved by ICAO. A bilateral agreement was then signed between Malaysia and Singapore in 1974.
This arrangement was agreed upon in 1973 by Malaysia, Singapore and other regional states, and subsequently approved by ICAO. A bilateral agreement was then signed between Malaysia and Singapore in 1974.
K Tan Don
Ricky Lim : Your minister say we are giving technical excuse..I say you are giving grandfather excuse..thank u...since when ICAO has the right to give airspace control of one country to another country ? It is only when both country agree that this party manage, then only that management take place..now we like to manage our own airspace. that is our right..we reserve that right especially related to national security.
K Tan Don - It is a signed agreement right?
The signed agreement give us the right. As long as one party don't agree to the change, it is still our right.
The signed agreement is binding according to International Law - if not happy - go to International Court to contest.
The signed agreement give us the right. As long as one party don't agree to the change, it is still our right.
The signed agreement is binding according to International Law - if not happy - go to International Court to contest.
Then your intruding vessels intrude into our Territorial Water - who give you the right?
Under UN Law of Sea - we can use force against your intruding vessel. Don't let us wait too long - our patience are running out.
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Alvin Leong
Ricky Lim Correction, ICAO had not "given" us the right. The agreement was agreed upon by both parties, like you said in 1973, and approved by ICAO in 1974. It is not as if ICAO taken their airspace and given it to us. Read this part again:
"This arrangement was agreed upon in 1973 by Malaysia, Singapore and other regional states, and subsequently approved by ICAO. A bilateral agreement was then signed between Malaysia and Singapore in 1974."
Now, without access to the original agreement, I cannot say for sure if they can take back control or not. If nothing in the original document states that they cannot take back control, there is nothing to stop them legally from taking it back, is there?
If they can legally take back control, then it all goes back to my original post to you, international airlines can choose to not fly in their controlled airspace if they don't feel safe. However given that 50+ does fly into KLIA, I believe international airlines feel safe enough.
"This arrangement was agreed upon in 1973 by Malaysia, Singapore and other regional states, and subsequently approved by ICAO. A bilateral agreement was then signed between Malaysia and Singapore in 1974."
Now, without access to the original agreement, I cannot say for sure if they can take back control or not. If nothing in the original document states that they cannot take back control, there is nothing to stop them legally from taking it back, is there?
If they can legally take back control, then it all goes back to my original post to you, international airlines can choose to not fly in their controlled airspace if they don't feel safe. However given that 50+ does fly into KLIA, I believe international airlines feel safe enough.
Dave
K Tan Don, never waste your time on ignoramus. They just talk shit n say Sg is the best n die for Sg when they will b the first prick to runaway in time of conflict. They claimed mys ship had violated Sg territory n why is the ship still there ? What shit sovereignty is sg talking about ? Give face to mys n compromised their sovereignty ? What happened to the billion $ fighters ? Can’t fly to bomb the shit out of the vessel when so many warnings were given ? What is the purpose of giving someone a warning ? What shit signed agreement when the airspace is yours. What did this ass****know about the agreement? Is he a lawyer ? I m. What shit he knew about ICAO? Is he a pilot ? I m. What shit did he know about airspace ? I knew. He just copy n paste stuff he got no idea of n throw these shit out to everyone n only fools replied him. He copied n pasted pages after pages n only clowns replied him. From his writing I guess he must b a true blue Sg citize who were just half baked in everything n belonged to the non intelligent group who would not even qualified to get a place in NUS. He knows who I m talking about in this column. But he is too low class for me to reply him
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