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Illegal e-scooter pose 2 types of danger :-
(1) Batteries of illegal e-scooter when charge at home - can cause explosion and burst into flames and destroy houses. There are many such incidents - where home are destroyed - whether the rider's home or other people's home.
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(2) With weight exceed the legal limits and with speed exceeding the legal limits - it will cause serious injuries and even death to other pedesterians or to the riders when the e-scooters collided with pedestrians.
Thus it is important for e-scooter users to use legal bikes and not illegal bikes.
Earning a living is important - but do so legally.
(1) Batteries of illegal e-scooter when charge at home - can cause explosion and burst into flames and destroy houses. There are many such incidents - where home are destroyed - whether the rider's home or other people's home.
https://sg.video.search.yahoo.com/.../video;_ylt...
https://sg.images.search.yahoo.com/.../images;_ylt...
(2) With weight exceed the legal limits and with speed exceeding the legal limits - it will cause serious injuries and even death to other pedesterians or to the riders when the e-scooters collided with pedestrians.
Thus it is important for e-scooter users to use legal bikes and not illegal bikes.
Earning a living is important - but do so legally.
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Ricky Lim
Statistics on the mishaps caused by e-bikes and personal mobility devices
(1) 90 accidents, with 4 deaths, involving e-bikes and personal mobility devices in first half of 2017. In the whole of 2016, there were 54 accidents involving e-bikes, up from 39 in 2015. But the number of fatal accidents involving e-bikes dropped from five in 2015 to three last year.
(2) The Singapore Civil Defence Force (SCDF) said that 40 e-scooters caught fire, a sharp rise from nine in 2016.
Batteries, with flammable material, are often the cause because excessive impact, overcharging and faulty electrical circuitry can "trigger a fire", said its spokesman.
(1) 90 accidents, with 4 deaths, involving e-bikes and personal mobility devices in first half of 2017. In the whole of 2016, there were 54 accidents involving e-bikes, up from 39 in 2015. But the number of fatal accidents involving e-bikes dropped from five in 2015 to three last year.
(2) The Singapore Civil Defence Force (SCDF) said that 40 e-scooters caught fire, a sharp rise from nine in 2016.
Batteries, with flammable material, are often the cause because excessive impact, overcharging and faulty electrical circuitry can "trigger a fire", said its spokesman.
Jen Js
so sad, juz want to earn a rice bowl, got detained.. I feel like crying... wen reading abt him.
he might have lots of problems at home, thinking to bring back bread for d family.
I hope, he will not b detain too long..
he might have lots of problems at home, thinking to bring back bread for d family.
I hope, he will not b detain too long..
Alvin Leong
"he might have lots of problems at home, thinking to bring back bread for d family."
This is the same excuse used by many drugs traffickers when they got caught.
This is the same excuse used by many drugs traffickers when they got caught.
Reply · 1h
Alvin Leong
Ben Chong Breaking the law when making a living is a criminal livehood, no? What are you going to suggest next? He didn't know he was breaking the law? That one was also tried on many times by drug traffickers.
Reply · 35m
Victor Koh
all the hypocrites talking about breaking law or not complying to rules. touch your hearts and say that you have never broken any law or didn't comply to rules. then i will clap for you. but i will still slap you for talking down anyone. u think u law abiding kum kong citizen u can say others arh. u wan say u wait until that person did something then u say. want waste all your saliva i dun care. now this men is just doing normal things but lose his way of making a living just because of a stupid group of people who came up with stupid law and rules. 1st of all it's not a law. it's just a regulation. a rule. and 2nd those people who came up with this aren't even escooterist. so lets move back to law and rules. U think u nv break any or incompliance to any rules? then let me state some very simple and common ones. You nv drop anything and nv pick up? (that's called littering), you nv run pass the middle of the street without any traffic lights? and this is very obvious all around Singapore. smokers smoking around a no smoking sign, under void deck because of rain. u wan complain about people breaking the law or not complying to rules y u nv say to every kind of law and rules? dun come and argue also saying wat i must be a illegal escooterist or call me things or saying watever. It just means i'm right. because you dun have any right reasons to talk back. i welcome people to argue with me but if it's off topic then please, u r just showing u r guilty.
let me add afew more examples, people buying in chewing gums, eat and throw anywhere. people bring in contraband cigarettes. people speeding, running red lights. all and all breaking the law is the same thing for every thing. y only target escooterist? y i dun see anyone target smokers? target reckless teenagers? target drinkers? u wan enforce for LTA y nv do anything? instead of talking and waring here u can go out and stop all the scooters and weight it yourself wat. report any "illegal" scooters as many as you want. only know how to bark. some of u will even aruge about the other law breaking doesn't involve accident. then i will forecast and say so u go rob someone it's ok? there's no accident involve. unless either the robber or the victim starts to fight and then accident will break out. "then littering also no accident involved wat..." is wat some other guy will say. then i'll say u r free to go live in indonesia. litter all u wan. "smoking also wont cause accident wat" another person will say. so i will say then go live in Msia. everything boleh. smoke until u die oso no 1 will care. cheaper also at there. so please, that poor guy just working but people think he terrorist. come one la. is he a terrorist? no safety is 1 men job. u give someone a very very compliant scooter who doesn't care for safety anything he oso can cause accident. it's not the tools here that's causing the accident right? it's the person using the tool and the people around the tool that is causing accident. so putting restriction on a tool is just plain stupid brainless thing to do. cos if people aren't the cause of accident then the road will be the 2nd factor to cause an accident which will lead to people getting the accident. because some roads r just not able to ride on. and oh ya saw some guy saying wat if he speed to his next meeting is allowed? because he's also making a living wat or watever. u think no 1 speeds? everyone speeds when they r late. so dun give this kind of bullshit. and some others saying the rules r here because elders r killed and young kids injured, then isn't imposing the rule on the elders and the young kids from buying or using them making more sense? if saying babies then it's the parent's responsibility wat to look after their kids. anyone who doesn't notice the child will cause injuries to the kid no matter wat scooter or bicycle or just pedestrian. so that's y safety is no 1 men job. u blame 1 men for wat. and that 1 men didn't even do any dangerous thing.
let me add afew more examples, people buying in chewing gums, eat and throw anywhere. people bring in contraband cigarettes. people speeding, running red lights. all and all breaking the law is the same thing for every thing. y only target escooterist? y i dun see anyone target smokers? target reckless teenagers? target drinkers? u wan enforce for LTA y nv do anything? instead of talking and waring here u can go out and stop all the scooters and weight it yourself wat. report any "illegal" scooters as many as you want. only know how to bark. some of u will even aruge about the other law breaking doesn't involve accident. then i will forecast and say so u go rob someone it's ok? there's no accident involve. unless either the robber or the victim starts to fight and then accident will break out. "then littering also no accident involved wat..." is wat some other guy will say. then i'll say u r free to go live in indonesia. litter all u wan. "smoking also wont cause accident wat" another person will say. so i will say then go live in Msia. everything boleh. smoke until u die oso no 1 will care. cheaper also at there. so please, that poor guy just working but people think he terrorist. come one la. is he a terrorist? no safety is 1 men job. u give someone a very very compliant scooter who doesn't care for safety anything he oso can cause accident. it's not the tools here that's causing the accident right? it's the person using the tool and the people around the tool that is causing accident. so putting restriction on a tool is just plain stupid brainless thing to do. cos if people aren't the cause of accident then the road will be the 2nd factor to cause an accident which will lead to people getting the accident. because some roads r just not able to ride on. and oh ya saw some guy saying wat if he speed to his next meeting is allowed? because he's also making a living wat or watever. u think no 1 speeds? everyone speeds when they r late. so dun give this kind of bullshit. and some others saying the rules r here because elders r killed and young kids injured, then isn't imposing the rule on the elders and the young kids from buying or using them making more sense? if saying babies then it's the parent's responsibility wat to look after their kids. anyone who doesn't notice the child will cause injuries to the kid no matter wat scooter or bicycle or just pedestrian. so that's y safety is no 1 men job. u blame 1 men for wat. and that 1 men didn't even do any dangerous thing.
Alvin Leong
Since you are talking about the speeding example I gave, I will tell you this; when I got caught for speeding, illegal/unpaid parking, littering, etc, I take the points and/or paid the fine like a man. Like you said, almost everyone speed, including me. However when caught, I not throw myself down on the middle of the road like this 33 years old kid did. That is what got him in handcuffs with an additional charge of "rash act". In fact, he had proven himself to be a rash person, hardly a person suited to operate any vehicle safely.
And as for you comparing the same danger from "scooter or bicycle or just pedestrian", you clearly knows nothing about reaction time vs speed; a person walking at 5kmh have a better chance of avoiding a child that runs across his path than a scooter or bicycle traving at 20kmh or more. This is why there are reduced speed limits on roads near schools, to give drivers more reaction time and to account for the unpredictability young children, which the younger they are, the more unpredictable.
Further more the weight a person crashing into a child at 5kmh will cause less injuries than the combined weight of an e-toy plus rider crashing at 20kmh. Which is also why heavy goods vehicle have a reduced speed limit compared to cars.
And as for you comparing the same danger from "scooter or bicycle or just pedestrian", you clearly knows nothing about reaction time vs speed; a person walking at 5kmh have a better chance of avoiding a child that runs across his path than a scooter or bicycle traving at 20kmh or more. This is why there are reduced speed limits on roads near schools, to give drivers more reaction time and to account for the unpredictability young children, which the younger they are, the more unpredictable.
Further more the weight a person crashing into a child at 5kmh will cause less injuries than the combined weight of an e-toy plus rider crashing at 20kmh. Which is also why heavy goods vehicle have a reduced speed limit compared to cars.
Reply · 20m
Ricky Lim
Victor Koh - Rule of law formulated by lawmakers and passed in Parliament - are meant to ensure people conduct their business, work and live in an orderly and legal manner - so that it will not cause harm to other innocents or cause harm to the Society as a whole.
Rules and laws need to be observed - so that people can live in harmony and prosper in a safe environment.
If rules and laws can be bend or can be broken - then what are the purpose of having law in a Society? Then jungle law rules - and chaos will erupt in a Society.
Your posts are actually crooked arguments to justify bending of rules and laws - or allow people to break law - just because someone need to earn a living --- at the expense of the safety of others.
By doing so - you are in fact promoting the idea of allowing people to break law and bend rules - first start leading to petty crimes - and if can get away from it - can proceed to commit more serious crime.
Your argument are crooked and should be nip at the bud.
Rules and laws need to be observed - so that people can live in harmony and prosper in a safe environment.
If rules and laws can be bend or can be broken - then what are the purpose of having law in a Society? Then jungle law rules - and chaos will erupt in a Society.
Your posts are actually crooked arguments to justify bending of rules and laws - or allow people to break law - just because someone need to earn a living --- at the expense of the safety of others.
By doing so - you are in fact promoting the idea of allowing people to break law and bend rules - first start leading to petty crimes - and if can get away from it - can proceed to commit more serious crime.
Your argument are crooked and should be nip at the bud.
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Victor Koh
Ricky Lim rules n laws r always bent by people. U cant deny that. I cant deny that rules n laws should be bent either. But the problem with this particular rule is that they r not made by lawmakers. And certianly not by or for escooterist. They r the wat er... AMAP. Active Mobility Adviosry Panel. And this panel have had people quitting it. Why? Rules too ridiculous. So the remaining people in this panel obviously agree with each other cos they r the same flock of sheeps. And they certianly dun ride scooter for commuting or work. So how'd they understand enough to come up with a rule that is sensible to follow? U think people dun wan to follow if not for stupid ridiculous rules? Compliant scooter = no accident? No right? Follow this rule have no impact on safety. So y is it there in the 1st place? Like u said. Rules should be followed to have a safe environment. So is it safe to limit a tool's specifications? Which would allow a safer environment? The answer is no. So y have this rule? Since u think u so smart can talk down others u give me a smart answer la. Y have this useless rule? Because u'd obviously say this rule is effective in keeping the safety of the people right? So tell me why ur answer is yes to limiting a tool's specification will keep safety up.
Reply · 2h
Ricky Lim
Victor Koh -
(i) If you say rule can bend and can break law - then don't blame the Authority to arrest you if you bend or break law - this is non-negotiable.
(ii) Look at the statistics below for those that use illegal eScooter :-
Statistics on the mishaps caused by e-bikes and personal mobility devices
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/.../e-scooter-ban...
https://www.todayonline.com/.../detention-order-teenage-e...
(1) 90 accidents, with 4 deaths, involving e-bikes and personal mobility devices in first half of 2017. In the whole of 2016, there were 54 accidents involving e-bikes, up from 39 in 2015. But the number of fatal accidents involving e-bikes dropped from five in 2015 to three last year.
https://www.straitstimes.com/.../4-hurt-after-e-scooter...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOwhah8AifU
https://sg.video.search.yahoo.com/.../video;_ylt...
(2) The Singapore Civil Defence Force (SCDF) said that 40 e-scooters caught fire, a sharp rise from nine in 2016.
Batteries, with flammable material, are often the cause because excessive impact, overcharging and faulty electrical circuitry can "trigger a fire", said its spokesman.
(i) If you say rule can bend and can break law - then don't blame the Authority to arrest you if you bend or break law - this is non-negotiable.
(ii) Look at the statistics below for those that use illegal eScooter :-
Statistics on the mishaps caused by e-bikes and personal mobility devices
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/.../e-scooter-ban...
https://www.todayonline.com/.../detention-order-teenage-e...
(1) 90 accidents, with 4 deaths, involving e-bikes and personal mobility devices in first half of 2017. In the whole of 2016, there were 54 accidents involving e-bikes, up from 39 in 2015. But the number of fatal accidents involving e-bikes dropped from five in 2015 to three last year.
https://www.straitstimes.com/.../4-hurt-after-e-scooter...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOwhah8AifU
https://sg.video.search.yahoo.com/.../video;_ylt...
(2) The Singapore Civil Defence Force (SCDF) said that 40 e-scooters caught fire, a sharp rise from nine in 2016.
Batteries, with flammable material, are often the cause because excessive impact, overcharging and faulty electrical circuitry can "trigger a fire", said its spokesman.
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Ricky Lim
When the lawmakers enact a law, they have gone through a rigorous process of :-
(1) Engaging scientist and researchers to conduct test and gather statistics
(2) Gather information from overseas countries who have similar law and how they solve similar problem
(3) Conduct extensive trial, pilot testing, sandbox.
(4) Engage public feedback
(5) Go through rigorous multiple layer of policy making - before it goes into Parliament to be enacted into law.
Law when enacted are not taken lightly - and not how you describe the law are make without knowledge.
Law enacted for eScooter and PMD usage are not only meant to facilitate users as convenience means of transport - but it also have to take care of other users on the road - to minimise or prevent accidents - that will cause serious injuries or death ---- not your wishes of unregulated usage that cause harms to others at large.
(1) Engaging scientist and researchers to conduct test and gather statistics
(2) Gather information from overseas countries who have similar law and how they solve similar problem
(3) Conduct extensive trial, pilot testing, sandbox.
(4) Engage public feedback
(5) Go through rigorous multiple layer of policy making - before it goes into Parliament to be enacted into law.
Law when enacted are not taken lightly - and not how you describe the law are make without knowledge.
Law enacted for eScooter and PMD usage are not only meant to facilitate users as convenience means of transport - but it also have to take care of other users on the road - to minimise or prevent accidents - that will cause serious injuries or death ---- not your wishes of unregulated usage that cause harms to others at large.
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