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Danny Lum
(1) These people flying the drones without permit - means flying the drones illegally.
(2) Thought that drone operators are brief on where are the legal places to fly - and definitely not near airbase or airport.
(3) Paya Lebar Airport is where many of our F15SGs are base - and the fighters takeoff everyday for air drills and patrol the sky.
(4) These people flying the drones illegally are putting our F15SGs at risk --- and they need to answer for their actions for putting our aircraft at risk.
(2) Thought that drone operators are brief on where are the legal places to fly - and definitely not near airbase or airport.
(3) Paya Lebar Airport is where many of our F15SGs are base - and the fighters takeoff everyday for air drills and patrol the sky.
(4) These people flying the drones illegally are putting our F15SGs at risk --- and they need to answer for their actions for putting our aircraft at risk.
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Danny Lum
(1) In case some wise guys say - wah a hi-tech fighter planes can be stop by "low cost drone" - and start to question our investment.
(2) In war time, drones that hamper our air operation are considered hostile.
(3) Our fighter planes can shoot down the drones hampering our operation - using the auto-cannon on board or air-to-air missiles (quite unlikely, why waste money on missile to shoot down a low cost drone).
(4) Alternatively, our SAMs or C-RAM (Counter - rocket, missiles and mortar) can shoot the drones down.
(5) Or drone catching drones or guns that disrupt the drone signaling can bring down the illegal drones.
(6) But all these will pose a danger to civilians and property - and only will be used during war time.
(2) In war time, drones that hamper our air operation are considered hostile.
(3) Our fighter planes can shoot down the drones hampering our operation - using the auto-cannon on board or air-to-air missiles (quite unlikely, why waste money on missile to shoot down a low cost drone).
(4) Alternatively, our SAMs or C-RAM (Counter - rocket, missiles and mortar) can shoot the drones down.
(5) Or drone catching drones or guns that disrupt the drone signaling can bring down the illegal drones.
(6) But all these will pose a danger to civilians and property - and only will be used during war time.
John Low
Flying a drone in HDB area but charged for flying near airbase. The burden lies entirely on member of the public on rules that are obscure. Singapore is such a small place, everywhere is near everywhere.
There are no clear sign to indicate no flying of drones warning you that you are kilometers away from airbase. It is definite harsh to punish member of the public who are not out for mischief but to fly an amateur drone for personal pleasure. At most it should be a warning. There should be continuous effort to inform people of how to acquire license or permit to fly a drone and proper courses to attend if needed.
Good government must display magnimity and be graceful to those who are ignorance and poorly infromed.
However if there is serious intention to disrupt air traffic then the matter should be treated with severity. That can be understood.
There are no clear sign to indicate no flying of drones warning you that you are kilometers away from airbase. It is definite harsh to punish member of the public who are not out for mischief but to fly an amateur drone for personal pleasure. At most it should be a warning. There should be continuous effort to inform people of how to acquire license or permit to fly a drone and proper courses to attend if needed.
Good government must display magnimity and be graceful to those who are ignorance and poorly infromed.
However if there is serious intention to disrupt air traffic then the matter should be treated with severity. That can be understood.
Adam Seven
And how do you assess 'Intentions" ? Is Ignorance a good no excuse ? The warnings have been highlighted over 12 months now. This lesson should be highlighted big time on every news site. That will drive these hobbyists away from Changi point and Eastern area. I can think of Tuas ?
Chee Bah Lau
Its understood that those who were involved in fatal traffic accidents where they accidentally caused the deaths of others had no intention of killing.... should the gov then show magnanimity?
Unker Will
They were charged not just for flying near airbase but also for flying a small unmanned aircraft without a permit. Whether it is for pleasure or mischief still need a permit. The rule on that is very clear.
John Low
Adam Seven If a little toddler accidentally step on your toe, would you just slap that fellow and send him crying for mummy. Ignorance is a very good excuse especially to something like drone flying. Your highlight and broadcast does not mean everybody are informed. Even when you go on the helpdesk, you may return with many blanks in your head.
You must not expect everyone to be super informed as yourself.
You must not expect everyone to be super informed as yourself.
John Low
Chee Bah Lau Lets compare apple with apple. You did not say accident with no collateral damage or a mere miss but a fatal traffic accident. On gosh.... death being involved. So the guys flying the drone have already caused the aeroplane to crash killing many people. Which page are you on, may I know?:
John Low
Unker Will If you need a permit to fly an amateur drone, perhaps the sellers of such craft should not sell their drone without first ensuring that the buyer has a permit or license to fly one.
Flying your drone outside your HDB block at Ponggol, you have to measure the distance to the nearest airbase is nothing but absurb.
Let me put it this way for you, our government is clueless in managing new technology in a small footprint like that of Singapore. On the one hand they want to allow technology to flourish but when unanticipated things happened and reflect badly on their management they start to bring ignorant people as scrapegoat to the forefront to be the red herring. This can ward off unpleasant questions being hurled at them.
Flying your drone outside your HDB block at Ponggol, you have to measure the distance to the nearest airbase is nothing but absurb.
Let me put it this way for you, our government is clueless in managing new technology in a small footprint like that of Singapore. On the one hand they want to allow technology to flourish but when unanticipated things happened and reflect badly on their management they start to bring ignorant people as scrapegoat to the forefront to be the red herring. This can ward off unpleasant questions being hurled at them.
John Low
Eddie Lim Pardon me cause I have not buy a drone before. Did the shopkeeper inform their customers that flying drone in Singapore requires a permit? If the law demand the seller of such merchanise to inform their customers of such requirement then clearly there is willful intention of bypassing the requirement on the part of the drone pilot. Otherwise the offender should be given the benefit of the doubt.
GPremalatha Ganasen
Fine writing by John Low!
I like to know why people are flying drones - is there a need to do this - their pleasure-sake activity would not cause a mishap, or degrade lifestyle pursuits, then it's a pleasurable one.
Truly, why are people flying drones like flying kites?
I like to know why people are flying drones - is there a need to do this - their pleasure-sake activity would not cause a mishap, or degrade lifestyle pursuits, then it's a pleasurable one.
Truly, why are people flying drones like flying kites?
Raymond Goh
Impose jail sentence as a deterrence to others not to fly around their drone near to airbase and areas around Changi Airport.
Danny Lum
(1) These people flying the drones without permit - means flying the drones illegally.
(2) Thought that drone operators are brief on where are the legal places to fly - and definitely not near airbase or airport.
(3) Paya Lebar Airport is where many of our F15SGs are base - and the fighters takeoff everyday for air drills and patrol the sky.
(4) These people flying the drones illegally are putting our F15SGs at risk --- and they need to answer for their actions for putting our aircraft at risk.
(2) Thought that drone operators are brief on where are the legal places to fly - and definitely not near airbase or airport.
(3) Paya Lebar Airport is where many of our F15SGs are base - and the fighters takeoff everyday for air drills and patrol the sky.
(4) These people flying the drones illegally are putting our F15SGs at risk --- and they need to answer for their actions for putting our aircraft at risk.
Joseph Convergence
Also punish the seller.
The seller must be responsible for advising their customer
The seller must be responsible for advising their customer
Soffian Sokemi
Simple...just ban drones like the Gov ban chewing gum
I Love Video Games
Please get your facts right. Chewing gum is not banned. It is currently not illegal to chew gum in Singapore, merely to import it and sell it. Tourists visiting Singapore are allowed to bring in up to two packs of chewing gum per person.
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Lim Mary
There are many types of drone in the market. Toy drone usually palm size that can fly at max range of 30m to 50m shouldn't pose any danger. Drone that can fly long distance and out of operator sight need to be regulated or enforced.
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Danny Lum
(1) Not sure about "Toy drone usually palm size that can fly at max range of 30m to 50m shouldn't pose any danger."
(2) Because at airbase or airport within 5 km - fighter planes and aircraft - are taking off or landing.
(3) Drones operating at low height can also be suck into the engine and cause mishap.
(4) Thus even flying toy drones with limited height is also illegal.
(2) Because at airbase or airport within 5 km - fighter planes and aircraft - are taking off or landing.
(3) Drones operating at low height can also be suck into the engine and cause mishap.
(4) Thus even flying toy drones with limited height is also illegal.
Joseph Convergence
I project they will each be fined $2500 ea.
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Kevin Yang
i feel this is quite poor judgement, a warning would suffice... who would know flying at an open field at your own block of flats is considered near the air field..... singapore is only 32km in length, we got paya lebar airbase, tengah air base, seletar airport, changi airport, sembawang airbase..... u put a 5km radius around all these places, no places left for you to fly already.........
Dario Mariano
I would even go beyond that. Someone can buy one of those regulated drones online for a very low price, take it out of the box and fly it anywhere they like, including near an airport. Who is to tell them not to before they do that. Drone vendors (and I also see the argument why they haven't done so yet...sales!) Should be required to add warnings on every product they sell no matter what channel they use. In this case, no drone user can have the excuse that they didn't know and yes , those who do it without following the rules need to be prosecuted. I also see the side of education and in that respect I agree with John's comments, maybe the fine should be put in place but more emphasis on making sure that the pilot knows the rules and is qualified.
Tend Wong
I have a toy drone which just weights 80g. Its the Tello. Can't fly higher than 30m because its locked to that height. It's smaller than your palm. If flying this outside my HDB block in Yishun is going to bring charges to me simply because Yishun is in the 5km no fly zone around Seletar Air Base, it'd be a joke.
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Josephine Lee
To prevent "innocent" hobbyist from getting into trouble, Authorities need to keep the public informed, come up with a clearer set of rules and regulations, permits and requirements, etc on flying a drone. Set up some "space" for them to fly safely. No more kite flying, no more drone flying, is not the solution. Spaces need to be created for these activities!
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