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Simon Lim
I have raised this question with the Singapore Blood Bank and the Ministry of Health previously but after so many e-mails and telephone calls etc, my conclusion is that they were evasive and I waz left non the wiser.
My question to thrm was a very simple and straightforward question. After collecting all the donated blood and deducting all their cost of processing the blood to make them fit for transfusion, do our government hospitals make a profit out of public's donated blood? Yes or No? I couldn't get a clear answer from them. Somebody else may wish to try and get a clear answer from them.
My question to thrm was a very simple and straightforward question. After collecting all the donated blood and deducting all their cost of processing the blood to make them fit for transfusion, do our government hospitals make a profit out of public's donated blood? Yes or No? I couldn't get a clear answer from them. Somebody else may wish to try and get a clear answer from them.
Kannan Tantrum
Maybe because if you did some reading...blood gets not only used for transfusion...
If you flipped your primary school bio textbook...you would learn the different parts in it and when you split them up....they can be used from anywhere from transfusion to wound healing....and if you really wanted to deduct every single time the blood was used in any procedure....you gonna be there for a long time to crunch the actual numbers...
That being said...
Do you know what restructured means? There is no 100% government hospitals out there anymore.....they are all semi private...
Which gives them every right to make profits...that's a new fun fact for you.
Which again they aren't allowed because prices are regulated by the government to not be altered unfairly...
The only profit they can make would be providing additional non medical services and charging you for that....that's pretty much the only avenue they are free to charge.
Which again...they don't....the number of bullshit that people demand at hospitals, airport or any semi or fully goverment sector and get for free.....and give that cheeky excuse that they deserve it......bull shit....
Better still have the cheek to say additional services are shit...when you are paying jack shit....
Heard a dude at the air port say he deserves the service because he is singaporean...fk that...Singaporeans are spoiled...period...
If you flipped your primary school bio textbook...you would learn the different parts in it and when you split them up....they can be used from anywhere from transfusion to wound healing....and if you really wanted to deduct every single time the blood was used in any procedure....you gonna be there for a long time to crunch the actual numbers...
That being said...
Do you know what restructured means? There is no 100% government hospitals out there anymore.....they are all semi private...
Which gives them every right to make profits...that's a new fun fact for you.
Which again they aren't allowed because prices are regulated by the government to not be altered unfairly...
The only profit they can make would be providing additional non medical services and charging you for that....that's pretty much the only avenue they are free to charge.
Which again...they don't....the number of bullshit that people demand at hospitals, airport or any semi or fully goverment sector and get for free.....and give that cheeky excuse that they deserve it......bull shit....
Better still have the cheek to say additional services are shit...when you are paying jack shit....
Heard a dude at the air port say he deserves the service because he is singaporean...fk that...Singaporeans are spoiled...period...
Rohayu Johari
Im O blood. But why am i nt donating? It is bcos dctors taking my blood for free while e patients have to pay fr it if they need it!
Riez Marlin
Bring back the privilege for regular blood donor and there will be more donors. Privilege like, shorter waiting times at polyclinic etc.
Ricky Lim
And why cause distrust - and deter those who want to donate to save lives hesitate?
What is the purpose of donating blood for those who can?
It is the noble cause to save lives.
So for those who donate blood to save lives - do we want to know how the blood is used?
It is the trust that the blood will be used for good cause - to save lives - and the donor will reap good karma - so why ask?
It is the noble cause to save lives.
So for those who donate blood to save lives - do we want to know how the blood is used?
It is the trust that the blood will be used for good cause - to save lives - and the donor will reap good karma - so why ask?
And why cause distrust - and deter those who want to donate to save lives hesitate?
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Ricky Lim
布施不求报。
Donate without asking for reward - is the highest form of Compassion.
Donate without asking for reward - is the highest form of Compassion.
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Ricky Lim
The highest form of Compassion - is Pure Compassion, Unconditional Compassion, Unqualified Compassion - is the True Noble Cause to save lives - and will elicit extremely good karma.
Compassion with impurities, conditional Compassion, qualified Compassion - are Compassion that ask for reward, create doubts, question from end to end - is Compassion with impurities.
Compassion with impurities, conditional Compassion, qualified Compassion - are Compassion that ask for reward, create doubts, question from end to end - is Compassion with impurities.
Lee Liak Peng
I think, bottomline is Gov has committed that no citizen will be denied medical treatment bcos of poverty. This is good enough, no need to ask about blood donation charges paid by patients - foreign or otherwise.
Ken Neo
It happened to one of my friend,he got into an accident and require a lot of blood and he was charged $500 per bag for blood if I remembered correctly. Some countries I heard if you donate blood, you will be paid. Donating blood make us feel like helping people but when hospital are making use of your donation to make profit people don’t feel good. We give free, hospital should give free and that makes a donation. When hospital want to make a profit then hospital should have pay the donor so people will not feel betrayed.
Before this incident, some of my friends actually do blood donation, after knowing the hospital charged $500/bag, all have stopped donating blood.
Before this incident, some of my friends actually do blood donation, after knowing the hospital charged $500/bag, all have stopped donating blood.
Ricky Lim
Is the hospital charging the donated blood or the hospital are charging :-
(1) the procedure of storing, treating the blood to ensure it is not contaminated
(2) the procedure of blood transfusion to the victim
(3) treatment to ensure after blood transfusion there are no rejection?
Wonder if payment is used for good cause, will it cause a unhealthy trend of :-
(1) people selling blood for money
(2) people selling their organs for money
etc.
This will have become the Compassion with impurities, conditional Compassion, qualified Compassion.
(1) the procedure of storing, treating the blood to ensure it is not contaminated
(2) the procedure of blood transfusion to the victim
(3) treatment to ensure after blood transfusion there are no rejection?
Wonder if payment is used for good cause, will it cause a unhealthy trend of :-
(1) people selling blood for money
(2) people selling their organs for money
etc.
This will have become the Compassion with impurities, conditional Compassion, qualified Compassion.
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Ken Neo
Ricky Lim profit mean after deducting the costs. If u google u can find a lot of answer. Definitely there are profit to this. Like if you donate organs, they get it free and charge the patient who need it. This is a trading business. 
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That’s why many people rather donate directly to friends and family, they can charge a procedure fee,
When people donated their money they feed their self compassion and they actually feel good, whether the money did help the needy or not. In the end the money went to help a greedy man get rich. There are so many cases, people selling tissue, feed on others compassion, end up he use the money go bet 4D and get drunk.😂
When you donate your blood you will think the blood will help save lives and hospital did use it to save lives but they didn’t mention they are also profiting on the poor patient
😂That’s why many people rather donate directly to friends and family, they can charge a procedure fee,
When people donated their money they feed their self compassion and they actually feel good, whether the money did help the needy or not. In the end the money went to help a greedy man get rich. There are so many cases, people selling tissue, feed on others compassion, end up he use the money go bet 4D and get drunk.
😂When you donate your blood you will think the blood will help save lives and hospital did use it to save lives but they didn’t mention they are also profiting on the poor patient
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Ricky Lim
Ken Neo - your thinking is all about profit, money, commercialise - there is no pure compassion in you.
You calculate and think too much - when coming to donation or charity.
Many who donate - have just 1 pure Noble reason - "TO SAVE LIVES" - without a second thought, without calculating how to profit from it - which is an "Impure Compassion".
You calculate and think too much - when coming to donation or charity.
Many who donate - have just 1 pure Noble reason - "TO SAVE LIVES" - without a second thought, without calculating how to profit from it - which is an "Impure Compassion".
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Ricky Lim
Noble cause to save lives - based on your principles - has become pettiness, calculative --- which completely losing the meaning of "Noble cause to save lives" - "Pure Compassion".
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Ken Neo
Ricky Lim noble reason? Your donated money is used for 4d and beer... this is the reason you donate to that dude. Very pure compassion.
Ricky Lim
Ken Neo - Hospital is an institution to save lives and also an institution to make profit - to sustain themselves, to continue to improve their healthcare to continue to save lives.
Human as a person has 2 sides to it.
(1) To work, do business - to earn income to sustain ourselves and our family
(2) Innate noble cause - to help others if we can.
If you bundle innate noble cause with commercial values - then you completely miss the point.
You have not acknowledge that hospital don't charge the donated blood.
The hospital charge for all the test to ensure the blood is not contaminated like hep b, hep c, aids, vd etc. and ensure blood is of high quality for transfusion.
Simply say - you calculate too much.
Human as a person has 2 sides to it.
(1) To work, do business - to earn income to sustain ourselves and our family
(2) Innate noble cause - to help others if we can.
If you bundle innate noble cause with commercial values - then you completely miss the point.
You have not acknowledge that hospital don't charge the donated blood.
The hospital charge for all the test to ensure the blood is not contaminated like hep b, hep c, aids, vd etc. and ensure blood is of high quality for transfusion.
Simply say - you calculate too much.
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Ricky Lim
Also what you have post here - that "hospital charge $500 for donated blood" - which is now proven untrue --- has a far reaching harmful effects :-
As it cause public to distrust Hospital Institutions to save lives.
As it cause public to distrust Hospital Institutions to save lives.
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Ricky Lim
Institution's Compassion -- is actually coming from the Government subsidies and the pledge from the Government "that no patient without money will go without treatment".
Hospital role is to carry out their healthcare professionally :-
(1) not charging donated blood
(2) provide the best healthcare possible
(3) charge based on subsidised price for the overall medical treatment
Hospital role is to carry out their healthcare professionally :-
(1) not charging donated blood
(2) provide the best healthcare possible
(3) charge based on subsidised price for the overall medical treatment
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Ricky Lim
Ken Neo -
Same statement :-
Hospital role is to carry out their healthcare professionally :-
(1) not charging donated blood
(2) provide the best healthcare possible
(3) charge based on Government subsidised price for the overall medical treatment
versus untested raw blood of $0 transfusion for your friend but face the risk of hep b, hep c, aids, vd etc.
--- which one you want?
People can judge the above versus your statement :-
"Before this incident, some of my friends actually do blood donation, after knowing the hospital charged $500/bag, all have stopped donating blood."
Which one has more damaging consequences.
Same statement :-
Hospital role is to carry out their healthcare professionally :-
(1) not charging donated blood
(2) provide the best healthcare possible
(3) charge based on Government subsidised price for the overall medical treatment
versus untested raw blood of $0 transfusion for your friend but face the risk of hep b, hep c, aids, vd etc.
--- which one you want?
People can judge the above versus your statement :-
"Before this incident, some of my friends actually do blood donation, after knowing the hospital charged $500/bag, all have stopped donating blood."
Which one has more damaging consequences.
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Ken Neo
Ken Neo
Ricky L It seems like you are very defensive on every negative comment in this topic. Maybe you are one of the staff. Anyway I’m merely just sharing my encounters. Using a fake account to give all these comments makes people doubt on your credibility. Try using your main account to comment, maybe it works better! 
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Ricky Lim
Maybe all hospitals should provide 2 choices :-
(1) $0 - for raw untested donated blood - no guarantee of hep b, hep c, aids, vd etc.
(2) $$ (with Government subsidy) - for tested donated blood
-- let the patient choose.
Probably Ken will pick the (1) choice $0 - and will not make noise.
(1) $0 - for raw untested donated blood - no guarantee of hep b, hep c, aids, vd etc.
(2) $$ (with Government subsidy) - for tested donated blood
-- let the patient choose.
Probably Ken will pick the (1) choice $0 - and will not make noise.
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Ricky Lim
Ken Neo - It is not who you are.
It is what you say - that determine credibility.
It is the consequences of what you say - that determine credibility.
It is what you say - that determine credibility.
It is the consequences of what you say - that determine credibility.
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Ricky Lim
Imagine the consequences of untrue story :-
(1) People get the impression that free of charge donated blood is charge for $500 per bag - and people stop donating blood. Those whose lives are in danger - has no blood for transfusion.
(2) People demand $0 for blood transfusion - and hospital stop testing blood for dieseases and contamination.
(3) Telling half true story - where in fact the entire medical cost are heavily subsidised by the Government.
(1) People get the impression that free of charge donated blood is charge for $500 per bag - and people stop donating blood. Those whose lives are in danger - has no blood for transfusion.
(2) People demand $0 for blood transfusion - and hospital stop testing blood for dieseases and contamination.
(3) Telling half true story - where in fact the entire medical cost are heavily subsidised by the Government.
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Ken Neo
Ricky Lim I’m not the one whom are making noise here, you are the one who endlessly keep telling people what you want and supposedly want people to agree with you.
The fact is when u are lying down on that bed and u need blood you need to pay. To pay for services or whatsoever doesn’t matter, they charge you is what I’m saying.
How do you justify the breakdown of the costs? Reading the “facts” by the newspaper is it truly the real fact? Every organization have their own facts to say to defend, so once they put up in newspaper articles means is the fact? Are you the one who managed their costs and decided how much to charge the patient? How are u sure they didn’t profit? As I said, I’m just sharing my experience, not here for an argument. If people want to donate they will donate and not by people sharing their story and stop donating. You need to chill, just read or share if you have experiences of your own. Don’t go read up newspaper and bring your “facts” and tell us $0.
The fact is when u are lying down on that bed and u need blood you need to pay. To pay for services or whatsoever doesn’t matter, they charge you is what I’m saying.
How do you justify the breakdown of the costs? Reading the “facts” by the newspaper is it truly the real fact? Every organization have their own facts to say to defend, so once they put up in newspaper articles means is the fact? Are you the one who managed their costs and decided how much to charge the patient? How are u sure they didn’t profit? As I said, I’m just sharing my experience, not here for an argument. If people want to donate they will donate and not by people sharing their story and stop donating. You need to chill, just read or share if you have experiences of your own. Don’t go read up newspaper and bring your “facts” and tell us $0.
Ricky Lim
Ken Neo - I am not here to argue with you as well.
When you say "people read what you write and not influence by it" - is not entirely true.
People are affected by half true. You can see other posting responses - that echo your view. If you don't believe - you repeat your story many times among your friends - and you will see anyone volunteer to donate blood or not?
I am writing other side of the story - to ensure readers see the other side of the story - so that people can see a bigger picture and make their judgement.
You can share your side of the story - i can share mind.
Finally with more complete picture - people can judge and decide - not based on one sided view.
The moment the institution is discredited - people lose trust - and it is difficult to get people to start donating again.
When you say "people read what you write and not influence by it" - is not entirely true.
People are affected by half true. You can see other posting responses - that echo your view. If you don't believe - you repeat your story many times among your friends - and you will see anyone volunteer to donate blood or not?
I am writing other side of the story - to ensure readers see the other side of the story - so that people can see a bigger picture and make their judgement.
You can share your side of the story - i can share mind.
Finally with more complete picture - people can judge and decide - not based on one sided view.
The moment the institution is discredited - people lose trust - and it is difficult to get people to start donating again.
Steven Lim
Why complaints and throw so many questions? Typical Singaporean keep questioning and pl dont keep claiming True Blue Sporean.
Donate at your own will if you dont like it just keep your mouth shut. No one forcing you.
Why always claimed true blue singaporean? What is the differ bet new citizen and true blue? You contribute more than them to the society? How true blue can you be? Spore only 53 year old, max true blue only 2 generation as nowmy Dad 95 and i am 60, so my grandfather is from China. Frankly i dislikes China but no reason make you better than them
Donate at your own will if you dont like it just keep your mouth shut. No one forcing you.
Why always claimed true blue singaporean? What is the differ bet new citizen and true blue? You contribute more than them to the society? How true blue can you be? Spore only 53 year old, max true blue only 2 generation as nowmy Dad 95 and i am 60, so my grandfather is from China. Frankly i dislikes China but no reason make you better than them
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Raneir Fohnob
Ricky Lim
Will I Need to Pay for the Blood I Receive During a Transfusion?
You do not need to pay for the blood you receive during a transfusion. Blood is never sold. This is because blood donations are voluntary and donors do not receive any form of payment.
As a patient, you will only need to pay for a blood processing fee. This is to recover costs for collecting, processing, testing each unit of blood to ensure it is safe for transfusion.
Patients who are citizens need only pay a portion of the blood processing fee which is subsidised at two levels:
The Ministry of Health subsidises the costs incurred by the blood bank in processing the blood.
There is a further subsidy at the hospital level, depending on the patients' ward class.
Patients who are Permanent Residents will also be subsidised, but at a lower level than for citizens.
Please see the following chart and table for an illustration of the cost involved in processing a unit of whole blood:
You do not need to pay for the blood you receive during a transfusion. Blood is never sold. This is because blood donations are voluntary and donors do not receive any form of payment.
As a patient, you will only need to pay for a blood processing fee. This is to recover costs for collecting, processing, testing each unit of blood to ensure it is safe for transfusion.
Patients who are citizens need only pay a portion of the blood processing fee which is subsidised at two levels:
The Ministry of Health subsidises the costs incurred by the blood bank in processing the blood.
There is a further subsidy at the hospital level, depending on the patients' ward class.
Patients who are Permanent Residents will also be subsidised, but at a lower level than for citizens.
Please see the following chart and table for an illustration of the cost involved in processing a unit of whole blood:
Ricky Lim
So it is confirm that donated blood are free of charge.
The postings that donated blood are charge - is in fact fake news.
The charges are due to :- "As a patient, you will only need to pay for a blood processing fee. This is to recover costs for collecting, processing, testing each unit of blood to ensure it is safe for transfusion."
The postings that donated blood are charge - is in fact fake news.
The charges are due to :- "As a patient, you will only need to pay for a blood processing fee. This is to recover costs for collecting, processing, testing each unit of blood to ensure it is safe for transfusion."
Ricky Lim
So you see - misinformation, fake news and untrue rumors ---- which in effect are Impure Compassion, Conditional Compassion and Unqualified Compassion --- will have a harmful effects ----- causing lives to be lost ---- if People lose trust with the institution - and fail to donate blood to save lives.
Compassion must thus be a Pure Compassion, Unconditional Compassion, Unqualified Compassion - with the Noble Cause to save lives - an extremely good karma.
Compassion must thus be a Pure Compassion, Unconditional Compassion, Unqualified Compassion - with the Noble Cause to save lives - an extremely good karma.
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