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Ricky Lim
A day after his meeting with Dr Mahathir, Dr Thum posted on Facebook saying he had asked the Malaysian leader to take a leading role in promoting democracy and freedom of expression in Southeast Asia.
Mr Shanmugam said: "I think it’s quite clear what that means."
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Ricky Lim
And these Dr M plus these few misgiving Singaporeans - who want to organise events to export Dr M's "beacon of democracy" to all SE Asian Government --- ie. to overtly subvert the SE Asian Government.
And are you all supporting their actions?
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Mr Shanmugam said: "I think it’s quite clear what that means."
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Ricky Lim
And these Dr M plus these few misgiving Singaporeans - who want to organise events to export Dr M's "beacon of democracy" to all SE Asian Government --- ie. to overtly subvert the SE Asian Government.
And are you all supporting their actions?
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Ricky Lim
Ricky Lim
Christopher Bong, Lynn Lee - This is not about siege mentality, not about history lesson nor is it about political party.
It is about endangering Singapore Sovereignty as a Nation and about compromising Singapore's interest - ie. every Singaporean's interest.
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Ricky Lim
It is all about the following simple fact :-
(1) Dr M - has no good intention about Singapore nor do he want Singapore to do well.
a. He keep harping about revising water prices - that is enshrine in agreement that he cannot do so.
(2) Dr M - want to U turn all international sign agreement - such as HSR that will cause us to incur loss.
(3) Dr M - want to propose a new link to Pulau Ubin - with no economic values to us - but cause us to incur unnecessary expenses.
(4) Dr M - has say that Singapore should emulate him to overturn the Government.
(5) In the past, Dr M - has threaten to cut our water supply and many unhappy events that threaten our survival and well beings.
And all these misgiving Singaporeans - are trying to say that "Singapore is part of Malaysia" --- which in effect give this Dr M bullets to bring harm to Singapore, Singaporeans and Singaporean interests.
Based on your comments plus some in this board supporting both Dr M and these few Singaporeans actions --- are you supporting what they are doing to harm Singapore and Singaporean's interests ?
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Christopher Bong, Lynn Lee - This is not about siege mentality, not about history lesson nor is it about political party.
It is about endangering Singapore Sovereignty as a Nation and about compromising Singapore's interest - ie. every Singaporean's interest.
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Ricky Lim
It is all about the following simple fact :-
(1) Dr M - has no good intention about Singapore nor do he want Singapore to do well.
a. He keep harping about revising water prices - that is enshrine in agreement that he cannot do so.
(2) Dr M - want to U turn all international sign agreement - such as HSR that will cause us to incur loss.
(3) Dr M - want to propose a new link to Pulau Ubin - with no economic values to us - but cause us to incur unnecessary expenses.
(4) Dr M - has say that Singapore should emulate him to overturn the Government.
(5) In the past, Dr M - has threaten to cut our water supply and many unhappy events that threaten our survival and well beings.
And all these misgiving Singaporeans - are trying to say that "Singapore is part of Malaysia" --- which in effect give this Dr M bullets to bring harm to Singapore, Singaporeans and Singaporean interests.
Based on your comments plus some in this board supporting both Dr M and these few Singaporeans actions --- are you supporting what they are doing to harm Singapore and Singaporean's interests ?
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Ricky Lim
Singaporeans must have forgotten :-
(1) This Dr M levy RM$100,000 on all Singaporean after buying houses in Malaysia - causing many Singaporeans who invest in Malaysia got burn a big hole.
(2) This Dr M has clamp down on Clob - that cause many Singaporean buying Malaysian shares in Clob suffer loss.
(3) This Dr M say Singaporeans are drinking urine, sewage water, faeces water - when we invented Newater - to prevent Singaporeans from dying without clean water.
(4) This Dr M instigate Malaysian supporters to "cut water to Singapore" and "attack us" - chanting and causing unrest.
There are alot more unhappy incidents - too many list it all down.
And I am surprise that some Singaporeans in this board is actively encouraging the few misgiven Singaporeans' efforts and supporting this Dr M --- to cause harm to Singapore.
Very strange on how the thinkings of these Singaporeans --- you want Dr M to tekan us is it?
(1) This Dr M levy RM$100,000 on all Singaporean after buying houses in Malaysia - causing many Singaporeans who invest in Malaysia got burn a big hole.
(2) This Dr M has clamp down on Clob - that cause many Singaporean buying Malaysian shares in Clob suffer loss.
(3) This Dr M say Singaporeans are drinking urine, sewage water, faeces water - when we invented Newater - to prevent Singaporeans from dying without clean water.
(4) This Dr M instigate Malaysian supporters to "cut water to Singapore" and "attack us" - chanting and causing unrest.
There are alot more unhappy incidents - too many list it all down.
And I am surprise that some Singaporeans in this board is actively encouraging the few misgiven Singaporeans' efforts and supporting this Dr M --- to cause harm to Singapore.
Very strange on how the thinkings of these Singaporeans --- you want Dr M to tekan us is it?
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Ricky Lim
We can try to maintain good relationship with our neighbour --- but if someone has bad intention and want to harm our interests ---- we need to know when to stamp our foot down - to defend our interests.
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Ricky Lim
Aw Seng - As long as this old man is still around, when he still continue to do things that hurt Singapore interest - we must be on our guard.
Because all is needed is one slip - and we will get into trouble - and he is just waiting and trying.
Because all is needed is one slip - and we will get into trouble - and he is just waiting and trying.
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Ricky Lim
Kelvin Ho - This intent is understood.
As we interact with their Cabinet Ministers - we need to size up the situation and stay objective and clear about our positions and their positions.
We can sense whether they are sincere or not.
If the intent is clear and sincere - and have win-win outcome with mutual benefit - we should not hold back.
Eg. are the ASEAN Economic meeting, RCEP, Joint Maritime exercise.
But anything that harm our interest, we need to be on our guard - and ensure that our interest are safeguarded and not compromised.
As we interact with their Cabinet Ministers - we need to size up the situation and stay objective and clear about our positions and their positions.
We can sense whether they are sincere or not.
If the intent is clear and sincere - and have win-win outcome with mutual benefit - we should not hold back.
Eg. are the ASEAN Economic meeting, RCEP, Joint Maritime exercise.
But anything that harm our interest, we need to be on our guard - and ensure that our interest are safeguarded and not compromised.
Joseph Lau
Give them work according to their ability such as being a house painter, plumber, electrician, etc. All those jobs are paying well. Give them money and they became lazy. Subsequently they will blame the government for encouraging them to be lazy.
Edward Seng
Haha, They hold a talk with Mahathir 40 min.
Singapore PM hold talk with Mahathir 30 min.
What does it implicating ? LOL
Singapore PM hold talk with Mahathir 30 min.
What does it implicating ? LOL
Kelvin Leow
A very fair statement by Shamugam " We can have political differences within Singapore, small ones - it is the people’s rights.“We should never go out and invite someone foreign, a foreign politician to intervene in our domestic politics. I think that is an absolute no-no.”
Thum n the bunch of clowns made a mockery of themselves by inviting a racist n Dictator Dr M to a democracy conference. He cook up a criminal charges of sodomy against Anwar n put him in jail with black eye and humiliated Anwar family n wife with such criminal offence. Hope the authority questioned these traitors
Thum n the bunch of clowns made a mockery of themselves by inviting a racist n Dictator Dr M to a democracy conference. He cook up a criminal charges of sodomy against Anwar n put him in jail with black eye and humiliated Anwar family n wife with such criminal offence. Hope the authority questioned these traitors
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Edward Seng
Haha, They hold a talk with Mahathir 40 min.
Singapore PM hold talk with Mahathir 30 min.
What does it implicating ? LOL
Why Shanmugam so worry on Malaysia leader to take a leading role in promoting democracy and freedom of expression in Southeast Asia.
What's wrong if Malaysia were to do so ? Mahathir need not have to report to you Shanmugam.
Singapore PM hold talk with Mahathir 30 min.
What does it implicating ? LOL
Why Shanmugam so worry on Malaysia leader to take a leading role in promoting democracy and freedom of expression in Southeast Asia.
What's wrong if Malaysia were to do so ? Mahathir need not have to report to you Shanmugam.
Augustine Teo
Dont know why ah sham wants to comment on these people ... ah sham does think sgeans are stupid... come on , we think that guy is a piece of rubbish. So why so concern about this young piece rubbish .. sg came a long way , we came out tops from nothing.... just that i dont like some of current policies. I love this country.
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Edward Seng
Augustine Teo , Yes Singapore belongs to all our Singaporeans not any of the party. We pay for their service of governing our land to a good shape . Not for their PAP fat wealth and took our Singaporeans like a fool.
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Kelvin Leow
A very fair statement by Shamugam " We can have political differences within Singapore, small ones - it is the people’s rights.“We should never go out and invite someone foreign, a foreign politician to intervene in our domestic politics. I think that is an absolute no-no.”
Thum n the bunch of clowns made a mockery of themselves by inviting a racist n Dictator Dr M to a democracy conference. He cook up a criminal charges of sodomy against Anwar n put him in jail with black eye and humiliated Anwar family n wife with such criminal offence. Hope the authority questioned these traitors
Thum n the bunch of clowns made a mockery of themselves by inviting a racist n Dictator Dr M to a democracy conference. He cook up a criminal charges of sodomy against Anwar n put him in jail with black eye and humiliated Anwar family n wife with such criminal offence. Hope the authority questioned these traitors
Alan Tyc
By meeting these "Singaporean"; some of whom is from Malaysia and do nothing, Dr M is happy to eat popcorn and see the shit in Singapore. While we have different view on our politic, we do not need foreigner to interfere. LKY once said "Anyone can pick a fight with you". As per wiki there was this Taiwanese official Vanessa that try to engage chen show mao of WP and LKY send her packing. Dr M and Vanessa (Taiwan) are the same, stirring shit and interfere with our internal affair. Singapore position is to support one China policy and Singapore is not part of Malaysia. Our leadership need to be firm and strong else some foreign power will tear it apart. On the flip side, should Johor be independent, Singapore should work with them closely as they are really our closest neighour and their King love his people.
Edward Haxor
As much as I dont agree with the doings of those jokers, I cant accept the One China policy. Theres no such thing as a 1 Malaysia policy either.
Look at the distance between China and Taiwan, and then us and Malaysia, I shall never agree to China bullying their small neighbour and forcefully heaping shit on them.
Look at the distance between China and Taiwan, and then us and Malaysia, I shall never agree to China bullying their small neighbour and forcefully heaping shit on them.
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Norah Arc
The minister, one who wields the biggest sledgehammer in the court room, is no ordinary citizen. You would expect him to understand that the wife who has been mercilessly stoned senseless by a domineering husband has every right to seek help for her protection/freedom as well in defense, right?
Instead, he exerts his right to stone the unfaithful wife( those who lost faith in their masters) and expect of her to remain submissive or faithful ( not allowed by law to seek help from another authority or power)
Read the good book, sir. The writing is on the ground(all over the world). And the wife should go and ?
Instead, he exerts his right to stone the unfaithful wife( those who lost faith in their masters) and expect of her to remain submissive or faithful ( not allowed by law to seek help from another authority or power)
Read the good book, sir. The writing is on the ground(all over the world). And the wife should go and ?
Unker Will
My the other concern is that the fact Mahathir entertained these political activists also confirms his hatred for Singapore and his inner desire to bringing down the Govt.
Edward Haxor
He cant do that. Singapore and Malaysia is a big difference in terms of management standards.
We in Singapore has enjoyed decades of peace, growth, prosperity that no other Nation in the world has rivaled us in terms if GDP.
The people in Singapore isnt blind. We dont have natural resources to exploit on, and thus, no easy money to make, every cent we earn, is built from Intelligence, proper management, and brilliance.
We in Singapore has enjoyed decades of peace, growth, prosperity that no other Nation in the world has rivaled us in terms if GDP.
The people in Singapore isnt blind. We dont have natural resources to exploit on, and thus, no easy money to make, every cent we earn, is built from Intelligence, proper management, and brilliance.
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Unker Will
Edward Haxor, you comment may be true to a certain extent but don’t complacent and under estimate foreign interference. They are just like terrorist trying to tear down society to get what they wanted.
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Edward Haxor
At the end of the day, we are doing well, they are not.
We are a first world nation, they are not.
We got all the time in the world, they dont.
The picture is pretty obvious isnt it?
We are a first world nation, they are not.
We got all the time in the world, they dont.
The picture is pretty obvious isnt it?
Ghim Her Tan
Confirm again, sporeans deserve recognition for their hard work.
Not the incompetent GOVT.
Not the incompetent GOVT.
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Lau Lan Chu
Ghim Her Tan Singapore status today is of the government leadership. People are just workers and followers . Without a good government you think Singapore can be of today?
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Gw Chua
If it is true...Using other countries again his own country to achieve his own objective, make him not a Singaporean. Will he do it to his own family. He is wose than a 
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Derek Ee
It is sad that Shanmugam runs down True Blue Singaporeans who share their Personal Comments on Things Political within Singapore or Outside. He is unable to accept the fact that Singaporeans are learned and have their own Opinions and Objective Judgements and Conclusions. We salute Mr Thum for being forthcoming and open and having no Hidden or Personal Agenda.
And for conclusions sake, Mr Thum is no Philanderer unlike Someone portraying to be Holier than Thou.
Mr Thum, Singaporeans Salute You For Continuously Speaking Up For The People of Singapore!
Without Prejudice
Singaporeans Who Care.
And for conclusions sake, Mr Thum is no Philanderer unlike Someone portraying to be Holier than Thou.
Mr Thum, Singaporeans Salute You For Continuously Speaking Up For The People of Singapore!
Without Prejudice
Singaporeans Who Care.
Ricky Lim
Speak out for Singaporean about what - "Singapore as part of Malaysia"?
Are you a Malaysian or Singaporean.
If you are a Singaporean - very suspicious of your motive - to sell out Singapore?
And I presume you support Dr M for harming Singaporeans :-
1. Increase our water price, cut our water supply.
2. Cancel HSR and refuse to compensate our loss.
3. Force Singaporeans to pay RM$100,000 for owning a house in Malaysia.
4. Clam down on our Clob and make Singaporeans lose alot of money in owning Malaysian shares.
5. Attack Singapore.
- Now you say this is speaking out for Singapore and Singaporeans.Are you serious. Saluting this person who harm Singapore and Singaporeans. I think you are celebrating if Singapore or Singaporeans are harm.
Are you a Malaysian or Singaporean.
If you are a Singaporean - very suspicious of your motive - to sell out Singapore?
And I presume you support Dr M for harming Singaporeans :-
1. Increase our water price, cut our water supply.
2. Cancel HSR and refuse to compensate our loss.
3. Force Singaporeans to pay RM$100,000 for owning a house in Malaysia.
4. Clam down on our Clob and make Singaporeans lose alot of money in owning Malaysian shares.
5. Attack Singapore.
- Now you say this is speaking out for Singapore and Singaporeans.Are you serious. Saluting this person who harm Singapore and Singaporeans. I think you are celebrating if Singapore or Singaporeans are harm.
Joe Thailand
You people don't see the whole game. Yes we should not get foreigners to interfere in our domestic issues. That I agree. Then how about when the PAP invites foreign talent here to work, live and become PR/new citizens so that they can vote for the PAP in elections. Is this not inviting "foreign interference" in our domestic issues pertaining to votes??
Andrew Tan
Singapore sovereignty should let Singaporeans decided not u five traitors to seek outsider to interfere our systems and u five should put under guillotine and hang your renegade heads high at MERDEKA BRIDGE
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Nantha Tan
Instead of lamenting, why not take this as a luminating experience? It's like your son goes out to seek advice from Uncle Beng but not you, what does that show?
1. He believes he's going to get a beating/scolding if he comes to you instead.
2. You're a shitty father to him.
1. He believes he's going to get a beating/scolding if he comes to you instead.
2. You're a shitty father to him.
Thean Leong Lim
Dr.Mahathir is a wise politician.....nothing wrong 'learn'...from him regarding politic.
..everybody consider foreigner when you travel to other country...nothing wrong learn something with foreigners....
..everybody consider foreigner when you travel to other country...nothing wrong learn something with foreigners....
Are you a Malaysian or Singaporean?
Learn from Dr M to harm Singapore and Singaporean interest?
What has Dr M done that deserve Singaporeans to learn from Dr M?
Learn from Dr M to harm Singapore and Singaporean interest?
What has Dr M done that deserve Singaporeans to learn from Dr M?
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Ricky Lim
Ricky Lim
Actually what has this Dr M done that has make Malaysia a success - that need Singapore to emulate Malaysia?
Malaysia is now full of failing examples - there is nothing for Singapore to emulate or for other South East Asian Countries to emulate.
In fact this poor Dr M have to go to Indonesia, Japan and China to beg for help in building a car industry for Malaysia.
Got 28 fighter planes that cannot fly - only 4 can fly but don't know can fight or not.
Submarines cannot sail.
Debt, scandals all over the place - and have to beg China and Singapore to have mercy to cancel or defer big projects - because no money.
What are all these goondos expect Singapore and SE Asian Countries - to follow this old man examples?
Really a mockery of democracy - to emulate the failure.
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Actually what has this Dr M done that has make Malaysia a success - that need Singapore to emulate Malaysia?
Malaysia is now full of failing examples - there is nothing for Singapore to emulate or for other South East Asian Countries to emulate.
In fact this poor Dr M have to go to Indonesia, Japan and China to beg for help in building a car industry for Malaysia.
Got 28 fighter planes that cannot fly - only 4 can fly but don't know can fight or not.
Submarines cannot sail.
Debt, scandals all over the place - and have to beg China and Singapore to have mercy to cancel or defer big projects - because no money.
What are all these goondos expect Singapore and SE Asian Countries - to follow this old man examples?
Really a mockery of democracy - to emulate the failure.
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Ricky Lim
What are things that Singaporeans can learn from Dr M - probably his failed policies :-
(1) One day he champion the Bumiputra rights - now he say Malays should work hard and not depends on Bumiputra rights --- so he admit his past policy has failed.
(2) Last time, he say Anwar commit sodomy crime - now he say he is wrong and try to achieve a full pardon for Anwar.
(3) Last time, he build up Proton car industry - but it fail and need to sell to China Geely. Now he say he needs help from Japan, Indonesia and China to help him to build Proton 2. Only China Geely entertain him - but Geely will position Proton to lower end car buyers - but not in Malaysia.
(4) Last time, he say education must focus on malay language and no English - now he say he was wrong and all Police must learn English language to be able to communicate with the World.
(1) One day he champion the Bumiputra rights - now he say Malays should work hard and not depends on Bumiputra rights --- so he admit his past policy has failed.
(2) Last time, he say Anwar commit sodomy crime - now he say he is wrong and try to achieve a full pardon for Anwar.
(3) Last time, he build up Proton car industry - but it fail and need to sell to China Geely. Now he say he needs help from Japan, Indonesia and China to help him to build Proton 2. Only China Geely entertain him - but Geely will position Proton to lower end car buyers - but not in Malaysia.
(4) Last time, he say education must focus on malay language and no English - now he say he was wrong and all Police must learn English language to be able to communicate with the World.
(5) Last time, he instigate that Malay is the race that is home to Malaysia - and the rest of the race come from abroad. Now he say it is wrong - and all races deserved the same right.
It seems like Dr M is a Great "Roti Prata flip flop king" ---- this is what Singaporeans can learn from this wise Dr M in politics --- the politics of failure and the politics of roti prata flip flop.
And those misgiven Singaporeans - are wagging their tails in front of this "roti prata flip flop king" - to be the "beacon of SE Asia" --- to learn from Dr M how to "roti prata" and "flip flop" ---- what a joke of the century.
It seems like Dr M is a Great "Roti Prata flip flop king" ---- this is what Singaporeans can learn from this wise Dr M in politics --- the politics of failure and the politics of roti prata flip flop.
And those misgiven Singaporeans - are wagging their tails in front of this "roti prata flip flop king" - to be the "beacon of SE Asia" --- to learn from Dr M how to "roti prata" and "flip flop" ---- what a joke of the century.
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Joseph Lim
Ricky Lim one more thing can learn from the old wolf (M)
How to be cunning. And stir shit so that people feel scared and so he enjoy better bargaining power.
How to be cunning. And stir shit so that people feel scared and so he enjoy better bargaining power.
Ricky Lim
And something more spectacular failed policy is Dr M :-
(1) Taking down all his successors one after another --- to ensure that Malaysia has no viable successor.
Singaporeans want to learn from Dr M ?
(1) Taking down all his successors one after another --- to ensure that Malaysia has no viable successor.
Singaporeans want to learn from Dr M ?
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Guna Shekeran Vijayan
Disgraceful behaviour of this lot, choose to wash their dirty linen in a neighbouring country hoping to win support from someone who can't even run his country efficiently.
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Yeok Fong Yong
Knowing this Thum, Dr Mahathir still received him showed that Dr Mahathir still hold grudges against LKY/Singapore. He wants to make Singapore government look pathetic by supporting Thum. I may not be wrong to say this Thum is a Traitor because he wants Singapore to be part of Malaysia, that mean surrending our sovereignty by engineering this first event. I just wonder if PM Lee received Umno supreme council member Datuk Lokman Noor Adam and listen to his plan of how to kick the Pakatan Harapan government out of power, what will Dr Mahathir will say (or perhaps yell - treacherous). I am sure people of Malaysia will be unhappy Lokman gets foreigner to involve in Malaysia local politics. Luckily, I am just making my point as Singapore PM will not do a Tit for Tat to Malaysia!
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Lay Poh Lim
Ricky Lim Mahathir followed many of singapore gov policies in the past.
As for his intention to renegotiate the water agreement prices he just follow the spore gov who had increased 30% water price in spore. You can I also boleh.
As for his intention to renegotiate the water agreement prices he just follow the spore gov who had increased 30% water price in spore. You can I also boleh.
Ricky Lim
Lay Poh Lim - International agreement signed is legally binding and enforceable by law.
Can you break contract unilaterally?
Are you suggesting they break contract any how, as and when they like without regard to the rule of law?
If you are Singaporean - do you support his action to harm Singapore?
If you are Malaysian - do you agreed with his action to disregard rule of law? Even when one day, he justified his actions to chase you all out of Malaysia?
Can you break contract unilaterally?
Are you suggesting they break contract any how, as and when they like without regard to the rule of law?
If you are Singaporean - do you support his action to harm Singapore?
If you are Malaysian - do you agreed with his action to disregard rule of law? Even when one day, he justified his actions to chase you all out of Malaysia?
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Ricky Lim
Lay Poh Lim - Assume they cut the water tommorrow - do we need to build more desalination plant and newater plant to meet our water needs?
Then where do get the money from to build this plant?
Then where do get the money from to build this plant?
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Jimmie Tan
Are you sure he is wise? His track records does not show. Firstly his antiSingapore attitude does show him to be wise. His idea of a crooket bridge to replace the causeway is a joke. His asserting rule of law to criminalise Najib, but not adhering to the rule of law when he goes back on the water agreement, the HSR and the East Coast Rail does not show him understanding what "rule of law" means.And many instances in the past after agreeing with a MOU, he said it is not valid. What credibility?
Ricky Lim
Michael Lim - If you are Singaporean, obviously you are a traitor of Singapore - because you support Dr M, and the few traitors to harm the interests and Sovereignty of all Singaporeans and Singapore.
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Jimmie Tan
Well said. Malaysians may even want to rush across the causeway with violent intent. It happens many years back under mahatir leadership
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Ang Kam Kwang
I think Sg had ever banned foreign Priests, freedom speakers, politicians and others from publicly speaking/preaching in Sg; these people were banned because they may/could incite troubles/division and disharmony to our peaceful(Sg) societies.
This said event ...Dr M to speak at a democracy conference next year.....to "bring democracy to Singapore and...SouthEast Asia"...can go ahead without the SG relevant authority permit to hold such event? (I Dont know if Dr M will be comming though invited; he likes doing the U-Turn!).
The SgPolice...the 2nd Gen PAP (gov) have one whole year to plan for the imminent arrests of these said 5 (sporeans??) under ISA; (put them in jail and throw away the key!) if this event takes place.
If none of the organisers are still Sg Citizens, then why waste our time doing what these disrupters want us to do (their hidden agendas).
This said event ...Dr M to speak at a democracy conference next year.....to "bring democracy to Singapore and...SouthEast Asia"...can go ahead without the SG relevant authority permit to hold such event? (I Dont know if Dr M will be comming though invited; he likes doing the U-Turn!).
The SgPolice...the 2nd Gen PAP (gov) have one whole year to plan for the imminent arrests of these said 5 (sporeans??) under ISA; (put them in jail and throw away the key!) if this event takes place.
If none of the organisers are still Sg Citizens, then why waste our time doing what these disrupters want us to do (their hidden agendas).
David Wong Tat Wai
Did what TPJ do about instigating us to celebrate Malaysia Independence Day , considered a type of Treason ?
Weng Cheng Ye
Though it was unbecoming of Dr. Thum being interogated/cross examined or whatever by the "meritocratic(?)" "Select Committee on Deliberate Online Falsehoods", it is worse off by Dr. Thum to show he simply has shit for brain to piss off in return in such meritocracy (?) in his own rights to engage mahatail bin fox.
Talking about democracy, please permit me to share with you Dr. Thum a little bit for your historical collection that there was once the treatment of Malaysian Chinese were so bad that a visiting high level Chinese defence official visiting KL ignoring Malaysian officials and probably shared with the press that China missile has the capability to reach KL that made mahatail bin fox?/wolf? to crawl to Beijing uninvited; please confirm with your mentor hopeful mahatail whether this info carries any merit.
BTW Dr. Thum, please permit me to ask whether you are an undercover to stir up sentiments to canvas for votes for the ruling party? I thought you are one of our hopeful and because of your shit for brain stunt I now see you in the same mould as Chee Soon Chuan.
Talking about democracy, please permit me to share with you Dr. Thum a little bit for your historical collection that there was once the treatment of Malaysian Chinese were so bad that a visiting high level Chinese defence official visiting KL ignoring Malaysian officials and probably shared with the press that China missile has the capability to reach KL that made mahatail bin fox?/wolf? to crawl to Beijing uninvited; please confirm with your mentor hopeful mahatail whether this info carries any merit.
BTW Dr. Thum, please permit me to ask whether you are an undercover to stir up sentiments to canvas for votes for the ruling party? I thought you are one of our hopeful and because of your shit for brain stunt I now see you in the same mould as Chee Soon Chuan.
Joseph Tan
A worm telling the snake that they are the same and profess to preach democracy in SE Asian countries? I see this as an outright underminding of our Sovereignty by our home grown traitors.
Petjay Catarbas
A little sad, a bit regretful. So altogether it's not that much. Can add another word..Quite disappointing.
SG is feeling guilty of?
SG is feeling guilty of?
Wan Wan
Why he so scared. As someone has said, Dr M only gave his Big Boss 30 minutes of audience in small talk whereas Dr M sent 40 miniutes with the group to discuss important stuff. Sure is very very sacred esp the reputation of his Big Boss having been dented jialuck by his own siblings. How about he himself? No phone or courtesy call from his counterpart! Pathetic.
Kuldip Kaur
Dr Mahatir is an icon of democracy ! N south east Asia is not Singapore. Look at the picture as a whole Mr EXTRA MARITAL AFFAIR!
Pauline Ng
Icon of democracy indeed, fabricated stupid charges to put his opponent in jail and destroyed many for own personal gains. How blind are you?
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Lay Poh Lim
Pauline Ng this is politics. Enter at your own risks the dirtiest game in the world.
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Breeke Lo
Because Dr M fits the bill of someone whose words carry weight, and more crucially, can say something the PAP doesn't like, and still can walk down the stage, go home, and wake up the next day still in 1 piece. No one in SG can take that stage. Thum learnt this the hard way.. from you Mr Shan. Lol
Christopher Bong
Will Shanmugam please answer just this one question? What has PAP done to promote democracy, freedom of speech and expression in Singapore?
Pauline Ng
If you are not enjoying this now to a certain degree, you won't be able to ask this dumb question! By the way, we are not a full democratic society by constitution and be such a fool to think that you really can enjoy all these ideals without responsibility? Look wat happened to England now, the so called full democracy but jailed Tommy for not even doing anything illegal.
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Venkatraman Sheshashayee
There will always be some who are discontented, some who are distraught, and some who are just disturbing. Why give them credence through discourse?
Yves Lee
This Dr Thum is a total let down.I used to at least listen to what he had to say previously...but,nooo more...Utterly disappointed with him.Shaking hand praising an old devil?That's the last straw that broke the camel's back.I hope no oppie will join hand with him in the 2020 election.Shame on him!
Pauline Ng
All in all, it just show this bunch of unpatriot idiots are so incapable that they need to collude with outsiders to try desperately to destroy our own govt
(even if they are so terrible as claimed) and the country's stability. Even if they succeed, can we still trust them to rule Spore in the future? What Spore has achieved after being kicked out by Msia because they thot we are useless to them, has been admired worldwide and we have enjoyed the stardard of living that many are dreaming about and we are still complaining and gripping at the slightest inconvenient. To these people, find your own best govt or country that you admire so desperately and go and enjoy your dreams and ambitions with them, Spore gives you this freedom. Don't try to subvert all of us or your own country by your idealistic foolishness and be a tool to liberal globalist agenda. If you have the abilities and capabilities, do it by your own merit and prove to us you can make Spore better and worthy of our trust like Mr Lee Kuan Yew and our pioneer ministers did. They built Spore without selling out in exchange for power. If you can do that, I am sure Sporeans will vote for you like some did for Mr Chiam See Tong to be a check and balance.
(even if they are so terrible as claimed) and the country's stability. Even if they succeed, can we still trust them to rule Spore in the future? What Spore has achieved after being kicked out by Msia because they thot we are useless to them, has been admired worldwide and we have enjoyed the stardard of living that many are dreaming about and we are still complaining and gripping at the slightest inconvenient. To these people, find your own best govt or country that you admire so desperately and go and enjoy your dreams and ambitions with them, Spore gives you this freedom. Don't try to subvert all of us or your own country by your idealistic foolishness and be a tool to liberal globalist agenda. If you have the abilities and capabilities, do it by your own merit and prove to us you can make Spore better and worthy of our trust like Mr Lee Kuan Yew and our pioneer ministers did. They built Spore without selling out in exchange for power. If you can do that, I am sure Sporeans will vote for you like some did for Mr Chiam See Tong to be a check and balance.
Lay Poh Lim
Asking for more freedom of speech and democracy in spore is a desperate out to destroy government is too hard to digest.
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Pauline Ng
Lay Poh Lim no, it is not that, you have every right to be free and by the way, are you so stifled that you cannot express yourself now? It is courting outsiders especially the sly fox who hates us to help destabilise the society is wat we are against. Don't be so gullible and think they will help us to become better. There is no real political friends in this world, only political interests even among friendly nations. Msia is not a credible democratic advocate by the way they treat their own citizens and run their country.
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Soh Eric
Thum + those Singaporean : I do not know why you people did this ?? I believes more Singaporean will not like it & against you. Properly, It will unit Singaporean more than before ! I think you people are Stupid ! He, Dr. M could not even pick a good sucessor, keeping changing from bad to worst ! P.Harapan will not last long . Thier unity was just to get Najib Out and they succeeded, after, all only thinks of their own benefits including Mahathir !
Dave Tan
As a Law Minister, Mr Shanmugam should not spread fake news.
Mr Thum asked Dr M to promote democratic in Asia...nn.....
No matter how I read it, I can never apprehend why it's "invite someone foreign or foreign politicians to intervene in our demostic politics".
Funny thing is Channel Newasia just report this news without any question asked. Don't tell me none of the editor got the integrity to do their job .
Mr Thum asked Dr M to promote democratic in Asia...nn.....
No matter how I read it, I can never apprehend why it's "invite someone foreign or foreign politicians to intervene in our demostic politics".
Funny thing is Channel Newasia just report this news without any question asked. Don't tell me none of the editor got the integrity to do their job .
Robert Setiady
No need to worry those people who guru with mahatir,let them,they can not change Singapore with strong foundation CLEAN Government.
Juver Chan
Trust the people of Singapore. I think Singaporeans are intellingent enough to mull over the impact of moving to engage Malaysian PM Dr. Mahathir
Ong Khong Mhning
The group of trouble-makers has a very obvious evil agenda - to cause resentment against the Singapore Government. The historian knows that Mahathir has all along never wished Singapore well and so invited him of all people to speak at a democracy conference. Mahithir is ill- qualified to talk about democracy. Maybe he can talk about hatred and jealousy and why he never likes Singapore. See whether the doctor will accept the group of trouble-makers to be Malaysian Citizens!
Johnny Wee Lai Seng
The minister of law issued, an unqualified political statement, on political activists Tan Wah Piow and Historian Dr.Thum and and others, meetings with the Malaysian Prime Minister Dr.Mahathir Mohammad lately in Malaysia .
The minister of Home Affairs if not sastified, can issued, a detention order or arrest on sight,on any of them, if,he minister,personally on his position, have proven evidences, "to his personal claims" those activistd are a threat to the ruling party,on his ow personal assesment , as minister of law ,representing the nation.
The minister, should not take the matter into his own hand, to issued such a unwarranted, statement threatening the Malaysian prime minister and the Singapore political activists.
The minister, should first examined himself, as a Minister of Home Affairs and as a minister of law for Singapore.
Did the PAP ruling party seeks political consultancy firm to support the PAP ruling party,from international leaders, in Asia and United States of America to help the PAP ruling party, retaining their power in office,in the past, under "US Clinton Foundation and the TPP Trans Pacific Partnership" and collaboration, in Asia on how Asia and ASEAN leaders should managed and runs their collusion political businesses,finally, ended with corruption's and led to protests in Asia and ASEAN nations.
The US CIA and FBI has evidences of what going on to date and Asia political office holders of many has been indicted and prosecuted from the year 2000 to date and many more to be prosecuted soon in time to come.
The minister of Home Affairs if not sastified, can issued, a detention order or arrest on sight,on any of them, if,he minister,personally on his position, have proven evidences, "to his personal claims" those activistd are a threat to the ruling party,on his ow personal assesment , as minister of law ,representing the nation.
The minister, should not take the matter into his own hand, to issued such a unwarranted, statement threatening the Malaysian prime minister and the Singapore political activists.
The minister, should first examined himself, as a Minister of Home Affairs and as a minister of law for Singapore.
Did the PAP ruling party seeks political consultancy firm to support the PAP ruling party,from international leaders, in Asia and United States of America to help the PAP ruling party, retaining their power in office,in the past, under "US Clinton Foundation and the TPP Trans Pacific Partnership" and collaboration, in Asia on how Asia and ASEAN leaders should managed and runs their collusion political businesses,finally, ended with corruption's and led to protests in Asia and ASEAN nations.
The US CIA and FBI has evidences of what going on to date and Asia political office holders of many has been indicted and prosecuted from the year 2000 to date and many more to be prosecuted soon in time to come.
Liew James
Really a case of much ado about nothing! There is just no genuine freedom of speech and association whether in or out of Singapore.
CK Wee
I feel that GUY is sick totoally ... just wonder what type of DR..... is him . those like a brasket of apples and few of that is full of worms trying to make all become worms. If you think you so good and like them .. Go and fine fine a country to live there and become a guru by yourself .. why Singapore now so many tis types of peoples ? during our time was some PEACE... now so many over clever peoples .. why ..............
Henry Chua
别再争辩，别再把国家大事和外人说三道四，我们的国家和人民要的是每天的三餐都能吃得饱，要的是平安无事，大家安乐的生活。外界的那些居心不良的人，眼红，幸灾乐祸，只想搞破坏，他们能提供我们安稳的生活吗？ 如果我们团结一致，大家同心协力，他们就无处下手，知难而退。
别中居心不良者的千套，他们自己都搞不定，还有余力帮助别人吗？ 请三思。
别中居心不良者的千套，他们自己都搞不定，还有余力帮助别人吗？ 请三思。
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