Posted on :- 18 Aug 2017 09:49AM (Updated: 18 Aug 2017 03:27PM)
Kingspade Kingspade The
FACT is the court threw out Tan Cheng Bock's claim that Ong teng cheong
is the FIRST elected president & INSISTED halimah is Malay Muslim
when in BOTH cases are NOT true. Would you want to be tried in such a
court? Even those Pro-PAP supporters who attempted to sue their beloved
governemnt had their cases(NS death/injury, accidents due to lift
malfunctions, negligence in government hospitals...etc) THROWN OUT. These Pro-PAP Sheeples are like CHC followers. They lack the ability to 'Think'(a bunch brainwashed
draft) & even courage to voice out their dissatisfactions. No
wonder they're victimized one by one at the hands of imported criminals
& it amuses me EVERYDAY when I read the news about their
MISFORTUNATE end & ordeal :D:D:D Like · Reply · 14 hrs Jojo Long Kang · Works at Self employed
And who brainwashed you? Reply · 10 hrs Kingspade Kingspade Jojo
Long Kang I think you should ask yourself this question whether you'd
still want to support a government who manipulates the laws &
constitution just to keep itself in power. Look at President Maduro,
Singapore economy is losing steam(bottom 3 worst performing GDP among
ASEAN since 2014) & We're slowly but surely becoming the NEXT
Venezuela. BTW, Don't whine & cry like when 'Misfortune' hits you in
the future :D:D:D Reply · Ricky Lim · Singapore
Kingspade Kingspade - I think you make 2 accusations about the system which without understanding how the system function. There is a need to address them :- (a) You fail to understand the Executive function that legislate the laws and the Court System that administer the law. (b)
You fail to understand the underlying reasons of Executive decision
being made in which Court has no jurisdiction to administer them.
(1)
Let address your accusation of why Court throw out Tan Cheng Bok's
claim that Ong teng cheong is the FIRST elected president. (a)
It is not the Court function to determine the count on reservation for
Malay as President - it is the Executive function that determine when
the new system start - which is decided and passed in the Parliament.
(b) Now there is no articulated reasons why this round is reserved for Malay as President and not the next round.
But
it will not be too difficult to guess - given that there are some
sesimic development that give the impetus to reserve for Malay
candidancy that is not convenient for Government to make public:-
(i) Geopolitical shift that will have great impact in the Asia Pacific region. China
is increasingly influential in the Asia Pacific region. Singapore being
a Chinese majority - will cause disquietedness to our 2 Malay
neighbors. As Singapore is cooperating with China on
many project initiatives - there is a need to provide comfort to our 2
Malay neighbors that Singapore is still a multi-racial Country and not a
China vassal state. Thus having a Malay as President will be an appropriate representaton of Singapore's political, cultural and social makeup.
(ii)
ISIS terrorism is rearing its head in SE-Asia. Having a Malay President
will certainly help in networking and working with the neighboring
Muslim Community.
(iii) If you read Mr Lee KY
memoir, Singapore deliberately wait for Indonesia and Malaysia to
establish diplomatic relationship with China before Singapore do.
So
Kingspade Kingspade - don't assume that the Govt is trying to squeeze
Tan Cheng Bok out by exercising the reservation for Malays. You are only
spreading unnecessary rumor for discord. Like · Reply · Just now Like · Reply · 10 mins Ricky Lim · Singapore
Kingspade
Kingspade - You mention that halimah is Malay Muslim is not true -
because her father is an Indian Muslim and her mother is a Malay. Then how do you classify Peranakan - are the Chinese or Malay? I have a friend who speak Hokkien, Malay and English very well and he look like Chinese. So does he means that being a Peranakan - he cannot be Chinese and he must be Malay. But he look every bit like Chinese and he is has been leading a Chinese life. So if he put himself up as Chinese - then can you say no? And if he put himself as a Malay - then can you say no? If Mdm Halimah has been always and accepted by the Malay Community, then what is wrong to be a Malay Muslim? Dr
M has always called himself a Malay muslim even though he has a Indian
Muslim blood - but Malaysia think he is alright to be a Malay muslim. And
assume an Italian, Spanish, German, etc called themselves Eurasian and
want to contest as candidate for Eurasian, are you going to stop them -
Mr Kingspade Kingspade? Like · Reply · Just now
Reserved Presidential Election part of Singapore's multiracialism policy:
ESM Goh
Read more at http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/reserved-presidential-election-part-of-singapore-s-9198634
SINGAPORE: Reserving a Presidential Election for candidates from a
particular minority community is part of Singapore's multiracialism policy,
said Emeritus Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong on Friday (Sep 8).
Speaking at a dialogue session to mark the Lee Kuan Yew School of Public
Policy's (LKYSPP) 13th anniversary, Mr Goh noted that the reserved election this year is "quite unpopular
with a large proportion of the population because it goes against the
principle of meritocracy".
He added, however, that Singaporeans should understand why the Government is
doing this.
Mr Goh said Singapore has been successful in managing race and ethnic
relations because it "started very early from day one", citing the
ethnic integration policy for public housing as an example. The policy helps to
ensure an ethnic mix in HDB estates to help promote racial integration and
harmony.
"We have succeeded because we started very early from day one.
Everybody is equal and yet you know their differences. We try and make them
equal in result when we can – on a fair and just principle basis," Mr Goh
said in response to a question about how Singapore has been able to manage race
relations.
When asked about the potential crises Singapore could face in the future, Mr
Goh said: "Terrorism is closer than you think."
He noted that pro-Islamic State (IS) militants are already in Marawi in the
southern Philippines, and IS "may have a chance to establish itself in
Rakhine state in Myanmar".
In Singapore, it was announced on Thursday that two Singaporeans were arrested in July under the Internal
Security Act for terror-related activities. "Those whom we have arrested -
a handful - but how many are out there, we don't know," said Mr Goh who is
also chairman of the governing board of LKYSPP.
"The Government is already passing the message – more or less trying to
condition all of us – (that) it's not a question of if a bomb or truck will be
driven into some crowded place in Singapore, it’s a question of when.
"The big worry for us in reaction is not the bomb per se, it's the
aftermath. What would that mean for race relations? If race relations
become fragile, broken, collapsed, then the terrorists would have achieved
their purpose."
Source: CNA/gs
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Read more at
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/reserved-presidential-election-part-of-singapore-s-9198634
Govt prepared to pay political price over changes to Elected Presidency: Chan Chun Sing
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Minister in the Prime Minister’s Office Chan Chun Sing in an interview with Channel NewsAsia. (Photo: Gaya Chandramohan)
Read more at http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/govt-prepared-to-pay-political-price-over-changes-to-elected-9199326
SINGAPORE: It will be a “hard journey” to convince people about the need for changes to the Elected Presidency
and the Government will pay a political price but it is prepared to,
said Minister in the Prime Minister’s Office Chan Chun Sing on Friday
(Sep 8).
Speaking at an Institute of Policy Studies forum on the
Reserved Presidential Election, Mr Chan stressed that as a young nation,
Singapore had to evolve its systems to adapt to its circumstances – not
just to meet the “here and now” but also to anticipate and pre-empt
challenges that may arise in the future.
Mr Chan asked those at
the forum to raise their hands if they thought the ruling People’s
Action Party (PAP) had and will pay a political price over the recent
changes to the Elected Presidency, and the debate surrounding it,
including the hiatus-triggered model to ensure minority representation.
Noting the agreement of many in the hall, Mr Chan said: “Why, then, did we do this?”
“If
we are all good politicians, we won’t and we shouldn’t do it,” he said.
“No good politician would sacrifice his political capital for a problem
that may arise in future generations. Most good politicians in the
world would try to preserve their political capital for themselves to
manage their current problems.”
“There are many conspiracy
theories out there,” he added. “But for every conspiracy theory that is
out there, I have a very good answer for you.
“If it has to do with an individual, then there are many other ways,”
he said. “And if it is for political gain, then surely we are not
achieving it as you have rightly pointed out.” A POLITICIAN VERSUS A POLITICAL LEADER
To
explain, Mr Chan related a story about a conversation with Prime
Minister Lee Hsien Loong, which he said taught him the difference
between a politician and a political leader.
“We asked ourselves -
PM, do we need to do this now? Because we had anticipated it would be a
hard journey to convince people and we would pay the political price,
at least in the short term,” said Mr Chan. “PM Lee’s answer will forever
be etched in my mind, and that distinguished a politician from a
political leader.
“He said 'Yes, we are likely to pay a political
price. Yes, we may not have a problem here and now, but what if we have a
problem 20 or 30 years from now? Will the fourth, fifth or sixth
generation of leaders have the liberty, and the luxury of time and space
for them to put in place a system?'” said Mr Chan.
Mr Lee, he
added, had taken it upon himself to put in place a system to pre-empt
potential issues from arising in the future. “Not for himself, not for
his political capital, but always thinking about what this country
needs,” he said. “We are prepared to pay the political price, because we
think the future of our country is much more important than any
political capital that we may have.”
Mr Chan stressed that it was a
“very difficult decision” to make, but the Government owes it to the
future generations to put in place systems to prevent issues.
“If
the issues don’t arise in future, then we will be very happy and proud.
And we have done our little bit for the future of Singapore to be
better,” he said. “But we will not be able to face the future
generations if we have not done what we can within our means to
establish the foundations for them to be even more successful than us.” IMPORTANT TO HAVE MECHANISM THAT ALLOWS CHANGE: JANIL PUTHUCHEARY
Another
issue that was highlighted at the forum was how the race of prospective
candidates can be defined, and what constitutes a Malay individual.
The upcoming Presidential Election, set for Sep 23, will be reserved for candidates from the Malay community.
Under
the changes to the Elected Presidency, prospective candidates have to
submit a Community Declaration form to the newly established Community
Committee to certify that he or she belongs to the community which the
election has been reserved for.
During an earlier session of the
forum, the following hypothetical scenario was painted: A person who is
born a Malay and is seen as such, later converts to Christianity. Will
the committee determining the person’s eligibility turn him down on that
basis?
In response, Senior Minister of State for Communications
and Information Janil Puthucheary, who was part of the ministerial
dialogue, stressed the importance of having a mechanism that “leaves
open the possibility of change over time”.
He drew a comparison
between the current set-up – having a combination of a self-declaration
of one’s race followed by the acceptance of that declaration by a
community – and with getting “absolute clarity” by putting the
definitions of race into the Constitution.
“If we took the view
that the Constitution needs to provide absolute clarity at this point in
time ... it would mean then that there would be no opportunity to have a
change without making a constitutional amendment,” he said. “We’d have
to go back to Parliament every time - if there was a combination of
inter-marriage that we had not foreseen, to pass a law and redefine if
this person is Malay or Indian enough.”
Dr Puthucheary added that
currently, while the definition of racial identity is left ambiguous,
the process is clear. “So what you have is a mechanism for the process
of selection of candidates to reflect what the community sentiment is,”
he said. “The mechanism also leaves it open for someone in the same
position to then be accepted at a later time when the sentiment has
changed.”
He explained further: “The trade-off is that you get the
particular individual, having that decision made about them ... if you
don’t qualify as being Malay, it is seen as excluding that person.
“But
that person is still eligible to stand in the open election. And that
opportunity to always stand - that will always be a channel. You have
the same chances in the open election as anyone else.”
Source: CNA/mz
Read more at http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/govt-prepared-to-pay-political-price-over-changes-to-elected-9199326
Emeritus
Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong at a dialogue session at the Lee Kuan Yew School
of Public Policy on Sep 8, 2017. 
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