Monday, April 6, 2020

REACH - 43. How does Solidarity Budget help individuals and business (SK)
7 Apr 2020 (10 am - 10pm)

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Yesterday, DPM Heng Swee Keat announced the Solidarity Budget, with broad-based enhanced measures to reach as many Singaporeans as possible. DPM Heng mentioned that the Government "has brought all our resources and administrative capacity to bear, to mount a national effort for our workers, businesses, and families – to protect both lives and livelihoods.”
Tell us how these measures could help you and your family tide over this difficult season. Would these also encourage employers to keep their business running and retain their staff?
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/solidarity-budget-5-1-billion-save-jobs-circuit-breaker-12611090

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[11:29 am, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: US infection and death exceeded all countries many fold.

Joeann
[11:32 am, 07/04/2020] : Like president... like citizens..... most of them refuse lockdown

Rama
[11:32 am, 07/04/2020] : Dotard and Moron

Leonard Lau
[11:33 am, 07/04/2020] : It’s a democratic society where person freedom is deem most important ..

REACH
[11:45 am, 07/04/2020] : [Sent by Gov.sg - 7 Apr]
COVID-19: Take Circuit Breaker measures seriously
Circuit Breaker measures take effect from today till 4 May
➕ May be extended if situation is not brought under control
Stay at home
Only go out if:
👩‍⚕Going to work at essential services
🍜 Buying food (☝ remember to bring your own containers)
🥬 Buying groceries
🌳 Exercising at parks at safe distance
If your business is not among the list of essential services:
🔘 Work from Home 💯%
🔘 Stop work altogether
Check: go.gov.sg/circuitbreaker
Be socially responsible
For Circuit Breaker to work, all must cooperate
Stay at home. Protect yourself and your family. Save lives
Watch: go.gov.sg/circuitbreaker1



[12:03 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Bishan junction 8 crowded.
Govt sending security to chase the crowd away?

Evonne
[12:03 pm, 07/04/2020] : IF EVERYONE LISTEN AND STAY HOME

Elena Woo
[12:04 pm, 07/04/2020] : I doubt so ... there are people who are gangho one

Eugene
[12:04 pm, 07/04/2020] : thought restriction begins tdy?

Joeann
[12:04 pm, 07/04/2020] : Cfm have

Eugene
[12:04 pm, 07/04/2020] : govt should stepped up enforcement

[1:21 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
https://mothership.sg/2020/04/covid-19-singapore-expo/

[1:21 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Quite sad to see this.
If this is ever used, it means the cases have become too many and hospital space have to be vacated.

[12:58 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
China 5G quantum satellite - that display colour images and can even see human faces walking on the street.
Highly accurate.

[12:58 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
http://sh-meet.bigpixel.cn/?from=groupmessage&isappinstalled=0







Jen
[1:02 pm, 07/04/2020] : Sg has?

Droll
[1:02 pm, 07/04/2020] : Urm those images don't look like they were taken by a satellite

Ben
[1:08 pm, 07/04/2020] : It's a 360 image ultra high res

Droll
[1:08 pm, 07/04/2020] : Yes. standard camera optics
[1:08 pm, 07/04/2020] : https://youtu.be/lgOdkw-EvwA

[1:22 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
I took the those pictures using the China satellite.
It is the most advanced in the world.




[1:24 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Singapore don't have.
It is 5G quantum satellite.
China is far advanced in 5G and in quantum technology.

Ben
[1:26 pm, 07/04/2020] : It would be a very low satellite,  barely above the buildings. 😁

[1:26 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: In fact no other countries have except China.
[1:28 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: I think it is a trial satellite to test out their 5G and quantum technology.

Ben
[1:28 pm, 07/04/2020] : The satellite would be below building height to get this image.

Alvin
[1:28 pm, 07/04/2020] : cctv bah

[1:31 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: The satellite is right on top.

Droll
[1:32 pm, 07/04/2020] : It's not possible to capture images of a building from the side angle from a satellite unless we have figured out how to bend light with localized gravitational fields
[1:33 pm, 07/04/2020] : Or employ aeroplane sized optics to bend light. So I think those look more like multiple images shot by drones and then stitched together with software

[1:33 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Then got to ask the China satellite engineer.

Droll
[1:34 pm, 07/04/2020] : If China claims these images were taken by satellites then I would also doubt their statistics

[1:34 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Why?

Droll
[1:34 pm, 07/04/2020] : Lol
[1:34 pm, 07/04/2020] : It's China for heaven's sake
[1:34 pm, 07/04/2020] : Kinda like this
[1:34 pm, 07/04/2020] : Nationalistic pride is one of their top agendas
[1:35 pm, 07/04/2020] : Even if it means they claim they have invented a time machine

[1:36 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Those who work closely with China city planning can confirm they have these technologies.

Droll
[1:36 pm, 07/04/2020] : I don't doubt they have the technologies, but it's not from satellites
[1:37 pm, 07/04/2020] : Lol

Alvin
[1:38 pm, 07/04/2020] : Most likely cctv

Droll
[1:38 pm, 07/04/2020] : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UlCYFh8U2xM

[1:38 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Unless you say their drones can fly 24 hours 365days.

Droll
[1:39 pm, 07/04/2020] : Of course drones cannot do that, but why can't you deploy multiple drones?
[1:39 pm, 07/04/2020] : Come on.

[1:39 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: And unless their CCTV can fly like satellite.

Droll
[1:40 pm, 07/04/2020] : If they have those high gigapixel resolution images as a live video feed from those angles you posted and online 24x7 then I would be impressed.

[1:40 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Fly multiple drones 365days continuously?

Alvin
[1:40 pm, 07/04/2020] : Video stitching

Droll
[1:40 pm, 07/04/2020] : Why not?
[1:40 pm, 07/04/2020] : For national pride
[1:40 pm, 07/04/2020] : It's easy to fly such drones
[1:41 pm, 07/04/2020] : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh3-Mvrp1Lc look
[1:41 pm, 07/04/2020] : Drones are not flown manually

[1:41 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Well since I don't know I won't comments further.
This satellite images is what China published and I take it as face value.

Desmond
[1:41 pm, 07/04/2020] : Please migrate to China 😏

[1:42 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: What is this got to do with migration?

Desmond
[1:44 pm, 07/04/2020] : Haha cos, China sounds quite advanced so I think must be a good place to retire 😝

Droll
[1:42 pm, 07/04/2020] : Quantum satellites are something entirely different
[1:43 pm, 07/04/2020] : Not for photography
[1:43 pm, 07/04/2020] : or surveillance

Alvin
[1:43 pm, 07/04/2020] : China has very advanced cctv and facial recognition technology though

Droll
[1:43 pm, 07/04/2020] : It's right now focused on quantum entanglement experiments

Alvin
[1:43 pm, 07/04/2020] : They can detect height and build
[1:43 pm, 07/04/2020] : Even your walking pattern
[1:44 pm, 07/04/2020] : So no matter how you disguise they will locate you

Droll
[1:44 pm, 07/04/2020] : I won't exactly call it advanced. I would say it's a lot of brute processing power

[1:44 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: You sounds like expert why don't you post to that China website and say it is fake.

Droll
[1:44 pm, 07/04/2020] : https://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/2010667/handshake-shows-chinas-quantum-satellite-performing-even-better-expected
[1:44 pm, 07/04/2020] : Quantum entanglement is not new
[1:44 pm, 07/04/2020] : We're just trying to figure out how to use it in practical ways

Droll
[1:45 pm, 07/04/2020] : lol
[1:45 pm, 07/04/2020] : Quite advanced in many areas. ;)

Leonard Lau
[1:46 pm, 07/04/2020] : Share more leh since it is a good lobang

Alvin
[1:46 pm, 07/04/2020] : True but nowhere else deploys this type of brute processing system

Droll
[1:46 pm, 07/04/2020] : All I am saying is check and double check the facts. In this day and age of the digital world, you cannot believe everything you come across. Read and do research

Alvin
[1:47 pm, 07/04/2020] : You need a ton of infra to get to that level

Desmond
[1:47 pm, 07/04/2020] : I don know enough lei, only went to nanjing uni to teach their international IT undergrad for 1 month for their 3+1 degree program..

[1:49 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Anyone going to Shanghai see thousands of drones flying continuously in their sky 365 days?

Desmond
[1:50 pm, 07/04/2020] : Where is the web, share lei

Leonard Lau
[1:51 pm, 07/04/2020] : How are these students at Nanjing  ? I was invited to speak at their IT trade shows .. I find them amazing . Damn hungry for exchange and attitude up there .

[1:51 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Scroll right up.
I share already.

[1:52 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Or thousands of CCTV flying continuously for 365 days?

Blue and White Flag Guy
[1:52 pm, 07/04/2020] : http://sh-meet.bigpixel.cn/?from=groupmessage&isappinstalled=0

Droll
[1:54 pm, 07/04/2020] : Those images were not taken by drones flying continjuously lah
[1:54 pm, 07/04/2020] : It was a single shot
[1:54 pm, 07/04/2020] : Still image
[1:55 pm, 07/04/2020] : It's not even a video feed
[1:55 pm, 07/04/2020] : Anyway, peace. I didn't mean to offend you.
[1:57 pm, 07/04/2020] : The text below gives some hint as to how it was taken

Carol
[1:58 pm, 07/04/2020] : AGREE.   Don't use mouth,  use brain.

Alvin
[2:00 pm, 07/04/2020] : Woah woah woah
[2:00 pm, 07/04/2020] : Keep calm
[2:00 pm, 07/04/2020] : I sense another storm coming
[2:00 pm, 07/04/2020] : No ego bashing pls
[2:00 pm, 07/04/2020] : 🤔

Droll
[2:02 pm, 07/04/2020] : Actually scratch that. Let's just be nice to each other :)

[3:01 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
You won't offend me as long as we talk facts.
I don't claim I know everything.
This link was sent to me by someone who works in an overseas project and he is a comms engineer.
He say that it is a 5G quantum satellite.
I am not an expert in satellite, and thus I don't have to defend it.

Droll
[3:01 pm, 07/04/2020] : Ok Danny. Thank you for the clarification.
[3:02 pm, 07/04/2020] : 💪🤜🤛

[5:38 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Boris Johnson move into ICU due to serious symptoms developing.

Min
[5:40 pm, 07/04/2020] : https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/five-of-six-face-masks-fail-absorbency-test
https://youtu.be/4-gFxTSHzI8
[5:40 pm, 07/04/2020] : YouTube link for the test
[5:40 pm, 07/04/2020] : The article for highlighting what a bad mask is
[5:42 pm, 07/04/2020] : Basically (according to this expert):
1) Outside layer - needs to be hydrophobic, will form droplets
2) Inner layer - should be opaque enough and should not catch fire, rather it should melt
3) Layer facing your mouth - should be able to absorb droplets

Neeyor
[6:17 pm, 07/04/2020] : https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/covid-19-proposed-law-prohibit-parties-or-gatherings-any-size-home-or-public-spaces-gan

[6:41 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Iron fist stepping up.

Evonne
[6:42 pm, 07/04/2020] : What happen actually

Joeann
[6:42 pm, 07/04/2020] : Ya lo what happen sia

[6:43 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Don't know unless you turn on the volume louder and hear what are they talking.
People say he loitering.

Evonne
[6:43 pm, 07/04/2020] : I on damn loud alrd
[6:43 pm, 07/04/2020] : Lol
[6:43 pm, 07/04/2020] : So muffled

Joeann
[6:44 pm, 07/04/2020] : Speaker. 😛

Kevinn Wang
[6:51 pm, 07/04/2020] : downstairs is ok de
[6:52 pm, 07/04/2020] : just dun hang around can already

Jun
[6:52 pm, 07/04/2020] : If still have people playing basketball? How
[6:52 pm, 07/04/2020] : Call SPF?

Joeann
[6:59 pm, 07/04/2020] : Heard downstair also cannot “loiter”
[6:59 pm, 07/04/2020] : Dunno. Just stay home best
[6:59 pm, 07/04/2020] : My bed... finally can see me 24/7

REACH
[7:57 pm, 07/04/2020] : https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-social-gatherings-of-any-size-in-both-private-and-12617800

Joeann
[8:12 pm, 07/04/2020] : No social gatherings in public and private. No visit family mbrs not living under u. All 6mths

[8:25 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
These are the sites where the crowd are max to the capacity.
Wonder can Authority take actions on the crowd?








[9:31 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
(1) In all we have used up $59.9 billion and $21 billion is drawn from our reserves.

(2) If so much money have been spend and now "circuit breaker" is implemented for 1 month --- so as to break the chain of transmission --- isn't it everyone's responsibilities to ensure the chain of local transmission works?

(3) Wonder why there are so many people still crowding in the various malls --- and risk the chance of more local transmission?

(4) Should a stronger response be used to enforce the crowd stay out of the malls - and stay at home?

Ben
[9:51 pm, 07/04/2020] : Yes Danny, to all your points. It's frustrating peole don't seem ro understand. We have spent $80bn tackling this, I really hope we don't blow it for the sake of socialising inappropriately. Our kids and the next generation depend on us to do this right. Is their future financial security at risk.

[9:51 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Thought was $60 billion?

Evonne
[9:52 pm, 07/04/2020] : 59.9bil

Zie Chon
[9:53 pm, 07/04/2020] : Whatever, it's a lot of billions to let a few people enjoy taking selfies in front of some nice background (what I just saw on way to supermarket)

[9:54 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
As we spoke Clarke quay and Westgate still max crowd.
The rest of the mall green now.

XaniceAfcai
[10:18 pm, 07/04/2020] : Agreed to use enforcement to catch those not compromise the riles. Else it waste the great effort of what gov has done.. And what those responsible ppls has compromise of stay at home.
[10:18 pm, 07/04/2020] : *rules

[10:20 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Including all the business and workers sacrifices to stay at home and losing business.

XaniceAfcai
[10:21 pm, 07/04/2020] : Yeah. Enforcement...else dunno when will the cb last till....it takes only 1%of the people to break the chain.

Joeann
[10:27 pm, 07/04/2020] : So long as infected nos go down... we should be good
[10:27 pm, 07/04/2020] : It take a china province 13days...
[10:27 pm, 07/04/2020] : So we can too, since we small


REACH
[11:28 pm, 07/04/2020] : [Sent by Gov.sg]

COVID-19: 7 Apr update

New cases: 106
- Imported: 3
- Local cases (linked): 62 (39 cases linked to clusters at foreign worker dorms; 23 linked to non-dorm clusters)
- Pending contact tracing: 41

Total cases: 1,481
- Hospitalised: 627 (29 in ICU)
- In isolation, private hospitals*: 471
- Fatalities: 6
- Total discharged: 377 (Discharged today: 33)

More: go.gov.sg/moh7apr

*Patients doing well but still testing positive for the virus are moved to Community Isolation Facilities and private hospitals

Stay at home do the right thing
- Limit social contact to household members
- Don't go out unless for essentials, go home as soon as you can
- Wear a mask if you have to go out
 ⛔ It is an offence to disobey safe distancing measures
- To our Seniors 👵👴: you are more vulnerable;
- For your safety, please stay home, avoid crowded places 🙏

go.gov.sg/circuitbreaker2


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