1 Apr 2020 (10 am - 10pm)
REACH
[11:43 am, 01/04/2020] : [Sent by Gov.sg - 1 Apr]
COVID-19 safe distancing: Employers must allow staff to telecommute where possible
❗Only an estimated 40% of workers in the CBD are telecommuting
➡ Employers must ensure employees work from home as far as reasonably practicable
๐ This applies to all workplaces, regardless of size, for all days
If the nature of work doesn’t allow for it, employers must:
↔ Implement safe distancing measures
๐ Stagger arrival and departure hours for employees
To ensure safe distancing, Govt will strengthen enforcement. It will be an offence for employers not to put in telecommuting measures where the nature of work allows it
Employers should aim for 100% telecommuting where possible
More: go.gov.sg/telecommute
[11:56 am, 01/04/2020] : Dear REACH contributors,
Welcome back to our discussion :)
Our chat will be open till 10pm today.
Thank you for your constructive suggestions and views. REACH constantly notes the feedback given on our WhatsApp chats, and shares these with relevant authorities for consideration.
๐ขTopic:๐ข
The Manpower Ministry yesterday said that employers must allow their staff to work from home where possible. Stringent safe distancing guidelines is the new norm as there is a worrying trend that the number of local cases is rising.
What do you think about this telecommuting initiative? How can we all make this work in our organizations? If you are already telecommuting, how do you make it work for you?
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[9:26 pm, 31/03/2020] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
See lah unlinked cases 18.
Highest record so far.
If we don't ramp up our contact tracing techniques and conduct more tests - the unlinked cases may cause the infection curve to go over our hospital facilities.
[11:58 am, 01/04/2020] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
CNA
COVID-19: Rise in Singapore’s locally transmitted and unlinked cases, Health Minister stresses importance of safe distancing
31 Mar 2020 08:01PM
(Updated: 31 Mar 2020 10:09PM)
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-rise-in-singapore-locally-transmitted-unlinked-cases-12594642
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[1:07 pm, 01/04/2020] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Part 1
(1) WIth many local transmission cases rising, Work From Home (Physical Separation) of people from people is a good way to prevent infection between people.
(2) This will prevent those undetected mild asymptomatic cases - from infecting the Community while at work, commuting to work, or eating out and infect others.
(3) Hopefully by 2 weeks, those undetected mild asymptomatic cases - will heal by themselves or if worsen - seek medical help without affecting others at work or in public ---- and this will help to reduce the local transmission.
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[1:28 pm, 01/04/2020] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Part 2
Notice this is a step-by-step elevated measures to stop local transmission and community spreading :-
1. Work From Home - with telecommuting
2. Next step will be remote learning for school children in some days - as parents can now take care of them as many work at home.
3. Urge people to visit malls only for essential trips.
4. Close entertainment centres and enrichment centres for 1 month.
5. Cancel all senior singing and other activities in CC.
6. Stop events that gather more than 10 people.
7. All the above will reduce the number of people appearing in public, take MRT or bus (that will nullify the safe distancing) ---- as physical separation will not let transmission take place between humans.
For those that need to go to the public to buy food and essential, or those who need to go office and cannot work from home or those who need to commute to schools :-
There must be "social distancing meaures" and "Personal Social Distancing Tool" to prevent local transmission for people who come into contact with one another :-
1. Safe distancing in public places like 1 meter apart queue, alternate seats for those eating out, avoid crowd.
2. Urge people to use washable face masks even for those who are healthy - to prevent airborne virus - as per WHO new recommendation. This is to prevent people from using surgical disposable masks that is short in supply - and reserved from medical personnel or sick patients who are in need.
3. Keep handphone on to receive and transmit mobile data. For those who have installed Tracetogether Mobile Apps, turn it on ----- to help in contact tracing.
4. Suggest contact tracers should also used mobile signal data to help in contact tracing and reach out to a wider coverage in the vicinity --- and get more people in the vicinity to test as well as clean up the infected places (this will eliminate many mild untested cases).
5. Set up more accessible testing centres - for these group of people to go for the test and weed out those mild asymptomatic cases --- and reduce many unlink cases as well as new clusters from surfacing everyday --- that will overwhelm contact tracers as well as hospital facilities.
Using mobile data can allow call center contact tracers to call and interview the people in the vicinity (without needing the contact tracers to do legwork to do personal interview).
Personal interviews should be reserved for those who come in close contact with the infected persons.
6. By doing so, I am very sure local transmissions and community spreading will be significantly reduced.
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[1:28 pm, 01/04/2020] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Part 2
Notice this is a step-by-step elevated measures to stop local transmission and community spreading :-
1. Work From Home - with telecommuting
2. Next step will be remote learning for school children in some days - as parents can now take care of them as many work at home.
3. Urge people to visit malls only for essential trips.
4. Close entertainment centres and enrichment centres for 1 month.
5. Cancel all senior singing and other activities in CC.
6. Stop events that gather more than 10 people.
7. All the above will reduce the number of people appearing in public, take MRT or bus (that will nullify the safe distancing) ---- as physical separation will not let transmission take place between humans.
For those that need to go to the public to buy food and essential, or those who need to go office and cannot work from home or those who need to commute to schools :-
There must be "social distancing meaures" and "Personal Social Distancing Tool" to prevent local transmission for people who come into contact with one another :-
1. Safe distancing in public places like 1 meter apart queue, alternate seats for those eating out, avoid crowd.
2. Urge people to use washable face masks even for those who are healthy - to prevent airborne virus - as per WHO new recommendation. This is to prevent people from using surgical disposable masks that is short in supply - and reserved from medical personnel or sick patients who are in need.
3. Keep handphone on to receive and transmit mobile data. For those who have installed Tracetogether Mobile Apps, turn it on ----- to help in contact tracing.
4. Suggest contact tracers should also used mobile signal data to help in contact tracing and reach out to a wider coverage in the vicinity --- and get more people in the vicinity to test as well as clean up the infected places (this will eliminate many mild untested cases).
5. Set up more accessible testing centres - for these group of people to go for the test and weed out those mild asymptomatic cases --- and reduce many unlink cases as well as new clusters from surfacing everyday --- that will overwhelm contact tracers as well as hospital facilities.
Using mobile data can allow call center contact tracers to call and interview the people in the vicinity (without needing the contact tracers to do legwork to do personal interview).
Personal interviews should be reserved for those who come in close contact with the infected persons.
6. By doing so, I am very sure local transmissions and community spreading will be significantly reduced.
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[1:49 pm, 01/04/2020] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ: ---
Part 3
(1) But for Organisations to be ready to allow their staff to Work-at-Home, Organisations must have :-
a. a BCP (Business Continuity Plan) in place - and it must have practised them once or twice a year --- to ensure there are no major disruptions to their business.
Organisation that did not adopt the BCP plan and trial-run it --- will face some difficulties - especially if they did not invest in telecommuting IT gadgets to facilitate Work-At-Home.
b. The essential tools required to enable Organisations for staff to work remotely at home includes :-
(A) Secure Remote access technologies - eg. SSL VPN, VPN for secure access and remote login
(B) Office productivity tools eg. spreadsheet, words document, presentation, office email
(C) Cloud apps or eCommerce apps eg. , Web portal for file sharing, clouds apps for eCommerce transactions.
(D) Remote communication eg. multi-parties Video conferencing, teleconferencing, whatspp, telegram text conferencing - for remote meeting and collaboration.
c. If Organisations and staff are not trained to use the above tools to work remotely at home - then there will be inertia for Organisations to allow staff to work at home.
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[2:43 pm, 01/04/2020] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
We need to take note of asymptomatic cases - as reported by China that can also be infectious.
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/coronavirus-covid-19-china-asymptomatic-cases-12597704
Kevinn Wang
[2:43 pm, 01/04/2020] : this asym cases are tricky ya but they are the most dangerous
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[5:22 pm, 01/04/2020] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ: https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/chinese-scientists-seeking-potential-covid-19-treatment-find-effective-antibodies
[5:24 pm, 01/04/2020] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ: CNA news 1 Apr 2020 say Taiwan mandating wearing face masks in public transport - as they discover that face masks is effective in reducing infection in Taiwan.
Blue and White Flag Guy
ื ืชื ืื ืื ืืื ืืืื ื ๐ฎ๐ฑ
[5:39 pm, 01/04/2020] : See ah I never disagree with this, y'all better wear a mask and don't blame PT ๐ฌ
[6:18 pm, 01/04/2020] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Monday, March 16, 2020,
Vietnamese government that took effect on Monday requiring people to wear face masks at crowded places like airports, bus stations, and supermarkets for novel coronavirus disease (COVID-19) prevention.
The mandate was drawn from a government meeting to discuss measures to fight COVID-19 in Hanoi on Saturday.
Accordingly, people are required to wear face masks when visiting crowded public places like supermarkets, airports, and bus stations, or when they use public transportation, starting from Monday.
Face masks must be distributed free of charge to passengers at bus stations, ports, and terminals while vehicle operators are allowed to demand that their passengers wear the masks during their journeys.
The measure is aimed at preventing the possible community spread of the novel coronavirus as Vietnam has confirmed 57 patients being infected with COVID-19.
Blue and White Flag Guy
ื ืชื ืื ืื ืืื ืืืื ื ๐ฎ๐ฑ
[6:20 pm, 01/04/2020] : As for this mask thing, I will let LTA decide, I cannot force them in any way because we are unsure of the general stance towards the "everybody wear mask" idea
Rama
[6:21 pm, 01/04/2020] : Multiple agencies task force opinion needed
Blue and White Flag Guy
ื ืชื ืื ืื ืืื ืืืื ื ๐ฎ๐ฑ
[6:36 pm, 01/04/2020] : D R A F T
To: MOT, LTA, SBST, SMRT, TTSG, GASG
Cc: MOH, ESG
Dear all,
I have been collecting feedback from people around me, especially through one of the REACH WhatsApp group I am in and people insisted on the implementation of social distancing measures onboard our public transport, citing examples from all around the world and asking why our government has not done anything so far.
I then alleviated their concerns and cited demand as one good reason why we cannot implement such measures.
If we implement the measures blindly without first looking at the bigger picture and at factors such as demand,
Our public transport would have been strained tremendously because of the increased frequencies (which runs counter to what the LTA and SMRT agreed on in decreasing frequencies to reduce wear and tear on rails). Our staff, especially our Bus Captains would also be strained.
As for commuters, they will have to queue and wait for longer before they will be able to board or enter the premises, where applicable.
By delaying the implementation of such measures, we have avoided many unnecessary issues which would have caused major disruptions to all PTOs.
I even foresaw this before Minister for National Development, Mr. Lawrence Wong brought this into the public media's attention. In fact, I already cited this in the REACH WhatsApp group and to everyone who asks before this was addressed on a public level.
Right now, I am waiting for the monthly LTA DataMall dataset release scheduled for 15 April 2020, where I will compare the data with those from December 2019 to February 2020. I will then see if there has been a significant drop in demand. If there is, I will send another email to the LTA requesting for the immediate review of the possibility of implementing social distancing measures on public transport such as blocking out seats and allowing only a maximum number of commuters onboard at any one time.
For now, through discussion with fellow members in the REACH WhatsApp group, I have derived and arrived at a conclusion that:
- A stopgap measure is necessary.
- Despite calls for masks to only be worn when one is ill, public transport is undeniably a vector for transmission. I call on the MOH and MOM to review the practicality of making it mandatory for everyone to wear a mask when using public transport. Many fellow members have been telling me that public transport is most likely the source of many unlinked cases which I did not dismiss.
- Some have suggested for an automated aerosol spray containing sanitizer alcohol solution to be installed in buses and trains. I do not know the cost factor of this suggestion but felt that it was useful nonetheless.
- Finally, queues. No one queues with a distance of 1 metre from one another. Can this be mandated by the deployment of Social Distancing Ambassadors?
I understand the predicament this COVID-19 situation has brought us all but no doubt it did open our minds to solutions we never thought of, and I thought we should put that to good use.
Do let me know what you think of this stopgap suggestion while we wait for 15 April 2020. Likewise, this case will have its due date set at 15 April 2020, so do take note.
Otherwise, thank you for reading, stay safe, stay healthy and have a nice day!
Yours sincerely,
Tan Wei Liang Nathanael
IRN#20200401-03-20200401-03-PT01234-COVID19PT
(Please use the IRN above to reply to this case so as to facilitate easy tracking of feedback, thank you.)
Blue and White Flag Guy
ื ืชื ืื ืื ืืื ืืืื ื ๐ฎ๐ฑ
[6:36 pm, 01/04/2020] : Let me know if I missed out anything before I send this out for real ;)
Rama
[6:38 pm, 01/04/2020] : We need to step up the pace urgently!
[6:40 pm, 01/04/2020] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ: I like your face masks part.
Blue and White Flag Guy
ื ืชื ืื ืื ืืื ืืืื ื ๐ฎ๐ฑ
[6:41 pm, 01/04/2020] : See ah I not here to shoot ideas de, I love to look at the bigger picture and see how things can be resolved with the least disruption ๐คญ
Blue and White Flag Guy
ื ืชื ืื ืื ืืื ืืืื ื ๐ฎ๐ฑ
[6:41 pm, 01/04/2020] : I only scared they perceive it as some April Fool's email then cham!
[6:45 pm, 01/04/2020] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Do your best with good heart.
Blue and White Flag Guy
ื ืชื ืื ืื ืืื ืืืื ื ๐ฎ๐ฑ
[6:45 pm, 01/04/2020] : ๐
Rama
[6:46 pm, 01/04/2020] : Yes
Jonathan Lam
[6:46 pm, 01/04/2020] : Agree
Rama
[6:46 pm, 01/04/2020] : Hope not
[6:47 pm, 01/04/2020] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
No need to worry what authority will do.
Theyy are smart enough to pick up the good ideas and implement it.
We just provide feedback based on our hearts.
Blue and White Flag Guy
ื ืชื ืื ืื ืืื ืืืื ื ๐ฎ๐ฑ
[6:48 pm, 01/04/2020] : Thing is I influence authority, so I must also confirm double confirm triple confirm ๐คฃ
[6:50 pm, 01/04/2020] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Do what you think is right and what your heart tells you.
If worry too much, nothing get implemented.
And good ideas got lost.
Leave the assessment and worry to the authority.
We just need to think of good ideas to help.
Rama
[7:44 pm, 01/04/2020] : Keep up the good work
Blue and White Flag Guy
ื ืชื ืื ืื ืืื ืืืื ื ๐ฎ๐ฑ
[7:44 pm, 01/04/2020] : This message meant for who? ๐
Kevinn Wang
[7:45 pm, 01/04/2020] : U Lah hahajaja
[7:45 pm, 01/04/2020] : Must ask somemore hahahaha
Blue and White Flag Guy
ื ืชื ืื ืื ืืื ืืืื ื ๐ฎ๐ฑ
[7:45 pm, 01/04/2020] : You also talking ma ๐คญ
Kevinn Wang
[7:45 pm, 01/04/2020] : U consolidate mahhehehehe
[7:46 pm, 01/04/2020] : Does not matter to who as log as we are United ideas put thru for the good of the masses
Blue and White Flag Guy
ื ืชื ืื ืื ืืื ืืืื ื ๐ฎ๐ฑ
[7:47 pm, 01/04/2020] :
Ok I schedule the email for 8pm then really send liao ah!
@REACH Singapore Megan you want update accordingly also can ๐คฃ
--
XaniceAfaCai
[7:10 pm, 01/04/2020] : Sigh. This concept does not work for those fixed mindset.
Even how fantastic one idea is, they will tell u dun make thing complicated. One hand, ppls ask to suggest feedback, on the other hand, they can't accept it.
If no feedback, where got improvement, everything thus n that also cannot do..
No feedback, fixed mindset ppls will also said u dun think deep enu. Sigh.. That is a difficult decision to make..
[7:10 pm, 01/04/2020] : Well-written.
It is safe distancing.
Blue and White Flag Guy
ื ืชื ืื ืื ืืื ืืืื ื ๐ฎ๐ฑ
[7:11 pm, 01/04/2020] : Hahaha sometimes we have to follow our heart lah! ๐
[7:12 pm, 01/04/2020] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
We can't stop how others think.
But we can initiate what we think is right.
Blue and White Flag Guy
ื ืชื ืื ืื ืืื ืืืื ื ๐ฎ๐ฑ
[7:10 pm, 01/04/2020] : Most drivers wear mask liao, see the fear in their eyes ๐ฑ
Eugene
[7:10 pm, 01/04/2020] : I agree
REACH
[7:20 pm, 01/04/2020] : Dear Mr Nathanael Tan,
Thank you for your comprehensive feedback and suggestions.
We will email your feedback to the relevant Government agencies - some of which you have also listed in your feedback - for consideration.
Thank you.
Sincere regards,
REACH
[5:24 pm, 01/04/2020] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ: CNA news 1 Apr 2020 say Taiwan mandating wearing face masks in public transport - as they discover that face masks is effective in reducing infection in Taiwan.
Blue and White Flag Guy
ื ืชื ืื ืื ืืื ืืืื ื ๐ฎ๐ฑ
[5:39 pm, 01/04/2020] : See ah I never disagree with this, y'all better wear a mask and don't blame PT ๐ฌ
[6:18 pm, 01/04/2020] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Monday, March 16, 2020,
Vietnamese government that took effect on Monday requiring people to wear face masks at crowded places like airports, bus stations, and supermarkets for novel coronavirus disease (COVID-19) prevention.
The mandate was drawn from a government meeting to discuss measures to fight COVID-19 in Hanoi on Saturday.
Accordingly, people are required to wear face masks when visiting crowded public places like supermarkets, airports, and bus stations, or when they use public transportation, starting from Monday.
Face masks must be distributed free of charge to passengers at bus stations, ports, and terminals while vehicle operators are allowed to demand that their passengers wear the masks during their journeys.
The measure is aimed at preventing the possible community spread of the novel coronavirus as Vietnam has confirmed 57 patients being infected with COVID-19.
Blue and White Flag Guy
ื ืชื ืื ืื ืืื ืืืื ื ๐ฎ๐ฑ
[6:20 pm, 01/04/2020] : As for this mask thing, I will let LTA decide, I cannot force them in any way because we are unsure of the general stance towards the "everybody wear mask" idea
Rama
[6:21 pm, 01/04/2020] : Multiple agencies task force opinion needed
Blue and White Flag Guy
ื ืชื ืื ืื ืืื ืืืื ื ๐ฎ๐ฑ
[6:36 pm, 01/04/2020] : D R A F T
To: MOT, LTA, SBST, SMRT, TTSG, GASG
Cc: MOH, ESG
Dear all,
I have been collecting feedback from people around me, especially through one of the REACH WhatsApp group I am in and people insisted on the implementation of social distancing measures onboard our public transport, citing examples from all around the world and asking why our government has not done anything so far.
I then alleviated their concerns and cited demand as one good reason why we cannot implement such measures.
If we implement the measures blindly without first looking at the bigger picture and at factors such as demand,
Our public transport would have been strained tremendously because of the increased frequencies (which runs counter to what the LTA and SMRT agreed on in decreasing frequencies to reduce wear and tear on rails). Our staff, especially our Bus Captains would also be strained.
As for commuters, they will have to queue and wait for longer before they will be able to board or enter the premises, where applicable.
By delaying the implementation of such measures, we have avoided many unnecessary issues which would have caused major disruptions to all PTOs.
I even foresaw this before Minister for National Development, Mr. Lawrence Wong brought this into the public media's attention. In fact, I already cited this in the REACH WhatsApp group and to everyone who asks before this was addressed on a public level.
Right now, I am waiting for the monthly LTA DataMall dataset release scheduled for 15 April 2020, where I will compare the data with those from December 2019 to February 2020. I will then see if there has been a significant drop in demand. If there is, I will send another email to the LTA requesting for the immediate review of the possibility of implementing social distancing measures on public transport such as blocking out seats and allowing only a maximum number of commuters onboard at any one time.
For now, through discussion with fellow members in the REACH WhatsApp group, I have derived and arrived at a conclusion that:
- A stopgap measure is necessary.
- Despite calls for masks to only be worn when one is ill, public transport is undeniably a vector for transmission. I call on the MOH and MOM to review the practicality of making it mandatory for everyone to wear a mask when using public transport. Many fellow members have been telling me that public transport is most likely the source of many unlinked cases which I did not dismiss.
- Some have suggested for an automated aerosol spray containing sanitizer alcohol solution to be installed in buses and trains. I do not know the cost factor of this suggestion but felt that it was useful nonetheless.
- Finally, queues. No one queues with a distance of 1 metre from one another. Can this be mandated by the deployment of Social Distancing Ambassadors?
I understand the predicament this COVID-19 situation has brought us all but no doubt it did open our minds to solutions we never thought of, and I thought we should put that to good use.
Do let me know what you think of this stopgap suggestion while we wait for 15 April 2020. Likewise, this case will have its due date set at 15 April 2020, so do take note.
Otherwise, thank you for reading, stay safe, stay healthy and have a nice day!
Yours sincerely,
Tan Wei Liang Nathanael
IRN#20200401-03-20200401-03-PT01234-COVID19PT
(Please use the IRN above to reply to this case so as to facilitate easy tracking of feedback, thank you.)
Blue and White Flag Guy
ื ืชื ืื ืื ืืื ืืืื ื ๐ฎ๐ฑ
[6:36 pm, 01/04/2020] : Let me know if I missed out anything before I send this out for real ;)
Rama
[6:38 pm, 01/04/2020] : We need to step up the pace urgently!
[6:40 pm, 01/04/2020] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ: I like your face masks part.
Blue and White Flag Guy
ื ืชื ืื ืื ืืื ืืืื ื ๐ฎ๐ฑ
[6:41 pm, 01/04/2020] : See ah I not here to shoot ideas de, I love to look at the bigger picture and see how things can be resolved with the least disruption ๐คญ
Blue and White Flag Guy
ื ืชื ืื ืื ืืื ืืืื ื ๐ฎ๐ฑ
[6:41 pm, 01/04/2020] : I only scared they perceive it as some April Fool's email then cham!
[6:45 pm, 01/04/2020] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Do your best with good heart.
Blue and White Flag Guy
ื ืชื ืื ืื ืืื ืืืื ื ๐ฎ๐ฑ
[6:45 pm, 01/04/2020] : ๐
Rama
[6:46 pm, 01/04/2020] : Yes
Jonathan Lam
[6:46 pm, 01/04/2020] : Agree
Rama
[6:46 pm, 01/04/2020] : Hope not
[6:47 pm, 01/04/2020] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
No need to worry what authority will do.
Theyy are smart enough to pick up the good ideas and implement it.
We just provide feedback based on our hearts.
Blue and White Flag Guy
ื ืชื ืื ืื ืืื ืืืื ื ๐ฎ๐ฑ
[6:48 pm, 01/04/2020] : Thing is I influence authority, so I must also confirm double confirm triple confirm ๐คฃ
[6:50 pm, 01/04/2020] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Do what you think is right and what your heart tells you.
If worry too much, nothing get implemented.
And good ideas got lost.
Leave the assessment and worry to the authority.
We just need to think of good ideas to help.
Rama
[7:44 pm, 01/04/2020] : Keep up the good work
Blue and White Flag Guy
ื ืชื ืื ืื ืืื ืืืื ื ๐ฎ๐ฑ
[7:44 pm, 01/04/2020] : This message meant for who? ๐
Kevinn Wang
[7:45 pm, 01/04/2020] : U Lah hahajaja
[7:45 pm, 01/04/2020] : Must ask somemore hahahaha
Blue and White Flag Guy
ื ืชื ืื ืื ืืื ืืืื ื ๐ฎ๐ฑ
[7:45 pm, 01/04/2020] : You also talking ma ๐คญ
Kevinn Wang
[7:45 pm, 01/04/2020] : U consolidate mahhehehehe
[7:46 pm, 01/04/2020] : Does not matter to who as log as we are United ideas put thru for the good of the masses
Blue and White Flag Guy
ื ืชื ืื ืื ืืื ืืืื ื ๐ฎ๐ฑ
[7:47 pm, 01/04/2020] :
Ok I schedule the email for 8pm then really send liao ah!
@REACH Singapore Megan you want update accordingly also can ๐คฃ
--
XaniceAfaCai
[7:10 pm, 01/04/2020] : Sigh. This concept does not work for those fixed mindset.
Even how fantastic one idea is, they will tell u dun make thing complicated. One hand, ppls ask to suggest feedback, on the other hand, they can't accept it.
If no feedback, where got improvement, everything thus n that also cannot do..
No feedback, fixed mindset ppls will also said u dun think deep enu. Sigh.. That is a difficult decision to make..
[7:10 pm, 01/04/2020] : Well-written.
It is safe distancing.
Blue and White Flag Guy
ื ืชื ืื ืื ืืื ืืืื ื ๐ฎ๐ฑ
[7:11 pm, 01/04/2020] : Hahaha sometimes we have to follow our heart lah! ๐
[7:12 pm, 01/04/2020] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
We can't stop how others think.
But we can initiate what we think is right.
Blue and White Flag Guy
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[7:10 pm, 01/04/2020] : Most drivers wear mask liao, see the fear in their eyes ๐ฑ
Eugene
[7:10 pm, 01/04/2020] : I agree
REACH
[7:20 pm, 01/04/2020] : Dear Mr Nathanael Tan,
Thank you for your comprehensive feedback and suggestions.
We will email your feedback to the relevant Government agencies - some of which you have also listed in your feedback - for consideration.
Thank you.
Sincere regards,
REACH
Rama
[7:44 pm, 01/04/2020] : Keep up the good work
Blue and White Flag Guy
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[7:44 pm, 01/04/2020] : This message meant for who? ๐
Kevinn Wang
[7:45 pm, 01/04/2020] : U Lah hahajaja
[7:45 pm, 01/04/2020] : Must ask somemore hahahaha
Blue and White Flag Guy
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[7:45 pm, 01/04/2020] : You also talking ma ๐คญ
Kevinn Wang
[7:45 pm, 01/04/2020] : U consolidate mahhehehehe
[7:46 pm, 01/04/2020] : Does not matter to who as log as we are United ideas put thru for the good of the masses
Blue and White Flag Guy
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[7:47 pm, 01/04/2020] :
Ok I schedule the email for 8pm then really send liao ah!
@REACH Singapore Megan you want update accordingly also can ๐คฃ
Blue and White Flag Guy
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[7:53 pm, 01/04/2020] : Mai lah now is bite each other case sia, we always blame an invisible foreign actor, but actually is we bite our own kind ๐ฌ
Kevinn Wang
[7:54 pm, 01/04/2020] : Hahahaha true this we must be United look at ourselves and stop pointing fingers must each people how to bite Liao
Blue and White Flag Guy
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[7:55 pm, 01/04/2020] : Glad you agree leh bro! :D
Blue and White Flag Guy
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[8:02 pm, 01/04/2020] +65 9689 8146: Ok thank you to those who contributed to the email draft, I send liao ๐
[8:03 pm, 01/04/2020] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Home Taiwan News
Sat, Mar 14, 2020 page3
Virus Outbreak: People are making covers for masks to prolong their use
Staff writer, with CNA
People are making covers for masks to prolong their lifespan as lines to buy them have become an unwanted routine amid the COVID-19 pandemic.
Handmade cotton covers are becoming popular as people seek to resolve the problem of a supply shortage. The practice has prompted civic groups, schools and prisoners with sewing skills to make the accessories or give courses on how to make them with scraps of leftover cloth.
Students in the Department of Fashion Styling and Design at Yu Da University of Science and Technology in Miaoli County made mask covers for charity for elderly people who live alone in remote areas of the county.
Members of the Taiwan Fund for Children and Families’ Yunlin County branch on Tuesday insert masks into covers made by inmates at Yunlin prison.
Photo copied by Huang Shu-li, Taipei Times
There are no pharmacies linked to the National Health Insurance (NHI) system to sell rationed masks in some remote villages, so residents, many of whom are elderly, have to travel to other towns to buy them, Yu Da University president Leo Huang (้ปๆฆฎ้ตฌ) said on Tuesday.
Some even have to ride a bicycle for more than 10km to buy just three masks, he said.
After hearing about the situation, teachers and students with sewing skills initiated the campaign, Huang said.
Due to high demand amid the pandemic, the government has been requisitioning masks produced in the country and rationing them after supplying hospitals and healthcare workers.
Under the rationing system, which began on Feb. 6, anyone can buy disposable surgical masks on Sundays at designated drugstores and pharmacies by presenting their NHI card, while on the other days of the week, sales are staggered based on the last digit of their national ID number. Purchases are limited to three masks every seven days.
Mask cover making has also been taken up by groups who care for underprivileged people, including in Taichung and Hsinchu County, and in prisons that offer sewing classes.
Minister of Justice Tsai Ching-hsiang (่กๆธ ็ฅฅ) on Feb. 26 said that several prisons are making covers.
This allow inmates to acquire sewing skills and also helps ease mask demand, Tsai said.
Taichung City Councilor Chiu Su-chen (้ฑ็ด ่ฒ) said that sewing mask covers is not a challenge, as she is fond of needlework.
“Such covers can prolong a mask’s lifespan, but they have to be washed every day,” Chiu said.
Covers should be washed daily and masks used under them changed every two to three days, particularly when the weather is hot, medical experts said.
People should wear surgical masks without a cover in hospitals or places where the risk of virus transmission is high, such as crowded and confined spaces, they said.
Hospitals ask visitors to discard their masks after leaving, given the risk that the virus could spread through airborne droplets on them.
Taiwan Adventist Hospital physician Su Chih-sheng (่ๅฟ็) said mask covers are a “nice” alternative for people on public transport or those who are in a confined space for a short period, but they are definitely not for medical personnel and people who have symptoms.
Ben Lock
[8:05 pm, 01/04/2020] : Reminder about mask effectiveness. Cloth or cotton masks do not stop the virus.
[8:11 pm, 01/04/2020] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Joing contribution with my close friend :-
(1) Now with WHO announcement that covid-19 is also airborne - using face mask in public will have help to curb community spreading --- that is now happening in Singapore.
To date 88 unlink cae --- indicating community spreading.
(2) As we have to understand that global medical supply logistic chain is under tremendous strain and shortage - due to explosive outbreak across the World --- issuing disposable surgical masks to public will not be feasible - as they need to be reserved for frontline healthcare staff who are risking their lives to save the patients as well as to unwell patients.
(3) The next best option will be using washable face masks - to be wear by people who appear in public even though they are not unwell.
The reasons being, there must be some "mild asymptomatic cases" that is not visible and unknown to people -- who unwittingly spreading the virus around.
So even an innocent sneeze or cough --- may have ejected virus load into the air.
If public who are seen as "well" also wear washable face masks - then the chances of community spreading will be curb by people with "mild asymptomatic cases".
See a video the effect of people who look well ---- but ejecting their mucous and saliva in a sneeze without a mask or block with a tissue ---- it is imperative that a washable face masks ---- will turn out to be the last mile "Personal Social Distancing Tool" --- to tackle and combat community spreading and keep the unlink cases and clusters cases down.
(4) My close friend suggested Temasek Foundation - will be a good foundation to supply public with 2 washable face mask (like supplying "non-alcohol sanitizer" to help curb community spreading, the reasons being:-
- Temasek has many strategic companies - with strong science, medical and engineering expertise - that can help to produce products that are scientifically proven to be able to defeat the virus.
eg. "alcohol free" sanitizer can do the job - no need high alcohol content that is flammable and can harm skin.
- So we are quite confident that if Temasek Foundation support our ideas to provide 2 washable face mask (1 as spare - when 1 is washed as well as wear and tear) ----- that is medically, scientifcally to be able to protect against virus infiltration -- like surgical disposable mask ---- then it will give assurance to public that they will be adequately protected from community spreading.
(5) My close friend also suggest roping in non-profit organisation to help in producing the washable face mask - to expedite the production in order to reach so many millions of residents.
My close friend suggest that :-
- Those who can afford to pay for the masks should pay the money for the masks - as these non-profit organisations are not financially endowed.
- Those who want to buy more than 2 - will need to compulsory pay for the extra.
- Whereas for those who cannot pay (due to job loss, retire, business loss) etc or want to save up ---- should be issue free ---- as these virus pandemic is a Public Health Crisis ---- and everyone need to be protected.
- As part of an effort to raise fund for these non-profit organization - they can print their organisation as part of advertisement - to raise awareness and help in their cause to raise fund.
(6) My close friend further suggest that :-
The face mask can be printed and carry health safety messages like :-
- Stay Home,
- Stay Safe;
- You're too close for comfort; etc --- to reinforce the message of maintaining 1 meter "social distancing".
[8:29 pm, 01/04/2020] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Mask save lives
https://www.maskssavelives.org/?fbclid=IwAR1oK-n5Ct5UyayPec6wpl4U-bSjvJo6wyHlD2_u4VBnBZ5YZO-sl3WLl1s
Ben Lock
[8:36 pm, 01/04/2020] : I agree that surgical masks are an effective measure, but we need data on how many are available, the cost and distribution method. The priority must be to front line services. Health care, teaching. Transport, Police etc
[8:37 pm, 01/04/2020] : If people stay home where possible this will alleviate the need for masks.
[8:40 pm, 01/04/2020] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Not all can stay at home unless in a total lockdown.
There are still people that need to go out to work or school.
It is these people that we need to protect with a face masks.
If no surgical disposal masks - but at least improvised washable masks that can stop the viruses.
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[8:46 pm, 01/04/2020] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
(1) If these people in public has no face mask protection, got infected --- isn't it worst when they become unlink cases --- and flood the hospital and contact tracers will be more busy tracing more people when one is infected.
(2) If reusable masks are given to them to reduce or eliminate infection - then community spreading can be curbed.
(3) A last mile Personal Social Distancing Tool.
Thomas
[8:46 pm, 01/04/2020] : We got to remember those poor families may not be able to afford
[8:48 pm, 01/04/2020] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
That's why suggest Temasek Foundation sponsor.
And MDM Ho Ching supported the use of improvised face masks.
But did not say will provide or not.
Thomas
[8:48 pm, 01/04/2020] : Today was HBL for primary school. There are 20 students of a primary school who went to school because the families don’t have computer or network or parents working. We still have vulnerable families
[8:49 pm, 01/04/2020] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ: Because it will also takes time to produce millions of improvised workable rewashable masks.
Leonard Lau
[8:53 pm, 01/04/2020] : Yes, school should remain open for those who cannot be home with their kids.
Janice
[8:57 pm, 01/04/2020] : if everyone wore a mask, I don"t think we"d have so many unlinked cases.
Blue and White Flag Guy
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[8:58 pm, 01/04/2020] : Our mask supply stable anot, another factor to consider
Evonne
[8:59 pm, 01/04/2020] : if everyone wore a mask every day
[8:59 pm, 01/04/2020] : we will be using how many mask you know?
[8:59 pm, 01/04/2020] : ahhaha
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REACH
[5:26 pm, 01/04/2020] : COVID-19: Home-based learning begins for some students, 'teething issues' surface
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/home-based-learning-begins-teething-issues-covid19-12598106
[5:28 pm, 01/04/2020] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
1. Work From Home - with telecommuting
2. Next step will be remote learning for school children in some days - as parents can now take care of them as many work at home.
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REACH
[5:26 pm, 01/04/2020] : COVID-19: Home-based learning begins for some students, 'teething issues' surface
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/home-based-learning-begins-teething-issues-covid19-12598106
[5:28 pm, 01/04/2020] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
1. Work From Home - with telecommuting
2. Next step will be remote learning for school children in some days - as parents can now take care of them as many work at home.
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KS Foong
[5:30 pm, 01/04/2020] : Not every student has PC or Pad.
[6:29 pm, 01/04/2020] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ: School may have to loan to those who don't have.
XaniceAfaCai
[5:40 pm, 01/04/2020] : While Working from home, how to juggle between the children?some jobs need to concentrate one.
there will be sure disruption to the person who work from home.
[6:21 pm, 01/04/2020] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Shrug shoulders.
Not much choice - it is about juggling work, children and the viruses.
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