REACH 228 - Racism, views on this and how to stay cohesive and stronger (SK)
11 May 2021 (11am - 7pm)
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[10:04 am, 11/05/2021] +REACH: 📢 Topic 📢
Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong and other ministers spoke out on Monday (May 10) against racism in Singapore.
This comes after a man allegedly used racial slurs and kicked a 55-year-old woman for not wearing a mask while she was brisk walking. Police investigations are ongoing.
💬 What are your views on this incident? How can we play our part to build a stronger and more cohesive society?
Minister for Sustainability and the Environment Grace Fu spoke out against the alleged attack. She said that and said that while COVID-19 has brought out the best in people in difficult situations, discriminatory behaviour and "even violent xenophobic attacks" stemming from fear and intolerance has also been witnessed around the world.
"Let us not allow such behaviour to take root here," she said.
"As we battle this unprecedented pandemic, it is more important than ever for our communities to band together and foster stronger cohesion."
👉 https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/lee-hsien-loong-ministers-alleged-racism-man-racial-slur-kick-14782276
👉 https://www.facebook.com/125845680811480/posts/4321954841200522/
👉 https://www.facebook.com/100044272337460/posts/318549689630773
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[10:35 am, 11/05/2021] +Leonard Lau: I support and condemn any racism in Singapore .
We have to uphold our multiracial society and United people as ONE.
[10:36 am, 11/05/2021] +Valli: Agree
[10:37 am, 11/05/2021] +Boon Phing: I saw many people walking around w/o or with the mask pulled down. They were doing this because they have their sportswear or bicycle but moving around the residential area. Some are holding a can drink or cigarettes while walking.
It is not about ignorance, but I see these people are blatantly disregarding the rules being smartly finding excuses for themselves.
[10:41 am, 11/05/2021] +Boon Phing: Everyone needs to play their parts well for us to move out of this covid19 situation fast.
[10:41 am, 11/05/2021] +Stella Yip: The laws in SG must be respected and obeyed. Any form of violence should not be allowed, even if the attacker perceive the victim to be breaking the law. They should report to police and let the police do their job. Having said that, I have been pretty annoyed at seeing people walking around, mask at chin, with a drink taking sips now and then. Walking around (not standing still), including crossing the road, smoking away, Are these loops holes which G can help fix with new guidelines? Can at least make them stay put? Dont walk around, can?
[10:42 am, 11/05/2021] +Desmond Koh: drinking or smoking allowed to pull down the mask la but is how responsible lor
[10:42 am, 11/05/2021] +Boon Phing: Brisk walking without masks in sportswear?
[10:43 am, 11/05/2021] +Boon Phing: After sip put back on.... But holding a cup of drink and walk around lor
[10:44 am, 11/05/2021] +Desmond Koh: i think the key is educate not penalise lor
also we should never judge... youngster might have asthma or older got breathing issues?
[10:44 am, 11/05/2021] +Desmond Koh: put back on mask?
[10:44 am, 11/05/2021] +Stella Yip: at least have face shield if cannot wear mask?
[10:47 am, 11/05/2021] +Rama: Enforcement and penalties must be enhanced
[10:47 am, 11/05/2021] +Boon Phing: No la... Hold the cup and jalan jalan...
[10:47 am, 11/05/2021] +Boon Phing: Got to tell them off...
[10:50 am, 11/05/2021] +Desmond Koh: https://www.sportsingapore.gov.sg/-/media/SSC/Corporate/Files/News-and-Updates/Media-Releases/2020/Apr/FAQ-For-Advisory-On-Sport-Physical-Exercise-Activities-For-The-Control-PeriodUpdated-Measures-15-Apr.pdf
while this is not the latest but it was during CB period with much stricter ruling..
it mentioned Walking strenuously such as brisk walking, don need to wear mask..
[10:51 am, 11/05/2021] +Boon Phing: Strenuously is the keyword
[10:51 am, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: yeah lor if by that meaning eating + walking cannot already also. not everything need to draw till so clear right if ys, that is why we are called a nanny state all this while aka singaporeans cannot think need the govt to spelt out everything for us ..
[10:51 am, 11/05/2021] +Desmond Koh: haha
Can I remove my mask to eat, drink, or take medication?
https://www.moh.gov.sg/covid-19/faqs
Yes, you may do so, but must immediately put your mask back on after eating, drinking or taking medication.
If eating outside your home, please ensure that safe distancing measures are strictly complied (e.g. maintain physical separation with others while eating) with.
[10:52 am, 11/05/2021] +Thomas: Ugandan President’s address to his nation. One of the best Covid speeches till now from anyone anywhere in this world.
Uganda President KAGUTA MUSEVENI warns against people misbehaving during this COVID-19 period, "God has a lot of work, He has the whole world to look after. He cannot just be here in Uganda looking after idiots...".
Below is his reported statement.
"In a war situation, nobody asks anyone to stay indoors. You stay indoors by choice. In fact, if you have a basement, you hide there for as long as hostilities persist.
During a war, you don't insist on your freedom. You willingly give it up in exchange for survival.
During a war, you don't complain of hunger. You bear hunger and pray that you live to eat again
During a war, you don't argue about opening your business. You close your shop (if you have the time), and run for your life. You pray to outlive the war so that you can return to your business (that's if it has not been looted or destroyed by mortar fire).
During a war, you are thankful to God for seeing another day in the land of the living.
During a war, you don't worry about your children not going to school. You pray that the government does not forcefully enlist them as soldiers to be trained in the school premises now turned military depot.
The world is currently in a state of war. A war without guns and bullets. A war without human soldiers. A war without borders. A war without cease-fire agreements. A war without a war room. A war without sacred zones.
The army in this war is without mercy. It is without any milk of human kindness. It is indiscriminate - it has no respect for children, women, or places of worship. This army is not interested in spoils of war. It has no intention of regime change. It is not concerned about the rich mineral resources underneath the earth. It is not even interested in religious, ethnic or ideological hegemony. Its ambition has nothing to do with racial superiority. It is an invisible, fleetfooted, and ruthlessly effective army.
Its only agenda is a harvest of death. It is only satiated after turning the world into one big death field. Its capacity to achieve its aim is not in doubt. Without ground, amphibious and aeriel machines, it has bases in almost every country of the world. Its movement is not governed by any war convention or protocol. In short, it is a law unto itself. It is Coronavirus. Also known as COVID-19 (because it announced its destructive presence and intention in the year of our Lord 2019)
Thankfully, this army has a weakness and it can be defeated. It only requires our collective action, discipline and forbearance. COVID-19 cannot survive social and physical distancing. It only thrives when you confront it. It loves to be confronted. It capitulates in the face of collective social and physical distancing. It bows before good personal hygiene. It is helpless when you take your destiny in your own hands by keeping them sanitized as often as possible.
This is not a time to cry about bread and butter like spoilt children. After all, the Holy book tells us that man shall not live by bread alone. Let's obey and follow the instructions of the authorities. Let's flatten the COVID-19 curve. Let's exercise patience. Let's be our brothers' keeper. In no time, we shall regain our freedom, enterprise and socializing."
In the midst of EMERGENCY, we practice urgency of service and the urgency of love for others✨God bless us all.
The best and most intelligent public speech ever made during Covid-19.
[10:52 am, 11/05/2021] +Thomas: Interesting
[10:53 am, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: on the topic, the recent events are really uncalled for .. but again if every wan jump on the idea of racist thos and that like the west UP LORRY ALSO LAH
[10:56 am, 11/05/2021] +Alvin Lim: This one cannot lah
[10:56 am, 11/05/2021] +Alvin Lim: Will have bodoh hold drink in their hand and keep the mask down
[10:56 am, 11/05/2021] +Ken: Lol often… gray zone mah
[10:57 am, 11/05/2021] +Alvin Lim: I’ve seen many times already
[10:57 am, 11/05/2021] +Alvin Lim: They are not drinking just simply holding the drink and no mask on
[10:57 am, 11/05/2021] +Ken: Bubbletea and many shops don’t have seating area
[10:57 am, 11/05/2021] +Ken: So how to enforce?
[10:59 am, 11/05/2021] +Alvin Lim: True but that’s the same for those ppl dabao without seats
[10:59 am, 11/05/2021] +Alvin Lim: They eat the food outside meh?
[11:08 am, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: is an excuse for they say if smoker can why i cannot , but they forget smokers mostly very auto finish put mask on again
[11:11 am, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: and if they can compare to smoker then i am not surprise some mentally retard will compare if toddler can dun put why must i ? ok cos there is another group of mentally retard that believes if the us and uk people dun put why must i too ....
[11:11 am, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: never ending story thus simple solution slap them with a 10k fine simple
[11:12 am, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: talk so much for what
[11:14 am, 11/05/2021] +Valli: Brisk walking without mask with Safe distancing should be allowed.
[11:14 am, 11/05/2021] +Ken: Lol smoker got walk and smoke one leh lol
[11:16 am, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: now many places got yellow box wan
[11:17 am, 11/05/2021] +Ben: I'm joining late... but is the conversation about enforcing mask wearing or ethnic abuse of people incorrectly wearing a mask?
[11:17 am, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: focus .. is about putting mask on after an act... but if you want to compare eating and mask off is fine also cos smoker after finish is mask up these people with food is usually no mask up ... dun be prejudice against smokers they pay greater tax than anyone in here ;)
[11:17 am, 11/05/2021] +Alvin Lim: both it's a chicken and egg situation
[11:18 am, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: u see typical of singapore talk talk talk talk till cow come home
[11:18 am, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: 1 yr already
[11:18 am, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: still on mask topic ..
[11:18 am, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: how many more years we want to educate people
[11:19 am, 11/05/2021] +Alvin Lim: idiots don't wear their masks, people tell them off, get into scuffle and xenophobia rises
[11:20 am, 11/05/2021] +Alvin Lim: i rather the gov put a strong msg and draw the line
[11:20 am, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: den slap this fellow with multi offense
[11:20 am, 11/05/2021] +Ben: it sounds like people are upset about masks not being worn properly and so people are then targeting the ethnicity of that person as a means to scold them. Correct?
[11:20 am, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: simple as that
[11:20 am, 11/05/2021] +Alvin Lim: otherwise "vigilantes" will appear and generate more xenophobia
[11:20 am, 11/05/2021] +Ben: agreed
[11:20 am, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: why talk till cow come home
[11:20 am, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: and we knwo what is the root cause
[11:20 am, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: society NOT cooperating
[11:21 am, 11/05/2021] +Alvin Lim: i think our sociocultural issues are more deep seated than that but yes
[11:22 am, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: frankly if we take a step back and look at the case minus the whatever stupid "racist"comments, this guy was pissed because ....... 1) number of cases going up 2) new variant intro
[11:22 am, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: he might be worried also but took it out the wrong way
[11:22 am, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: so not standing on his side time to educate the public
[11:22 am, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: enuff of soft talk
[11:23 am, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: kill a couple with 10k and jail term we will see more will guai guai adhere
[11:23 am, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: gangster wanna act smart simple get ss branch to deal with them slap them with 10k fine plus 1 stroke cane (abusive of public servant)
[11:30 am, 11/05/2021] +Ben: I assume he will be prosecuted for physical assault and breach of racial harmony laws to the maximum extent of the law. 100% support to the ministers words, and I think we can go further by setting up a hotline/app to report incidents of racial abuse, no matter what the reason. If we already have that hotline/app then publicise it. The positive about having a dedicated line is that it raises profile and makes people more confident about reporting, whereas they might not want to call a generic police number.
[11:31 am, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: first we have to set the expectation what is racisms ...
[11:32 am, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: anything can be if there is no clear standard
[11:33 am, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: espically in a multi racial society like us where sometimes what we had been calling each other is ok but to some new gen is not .. den it become racist remark
[11:34 am, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: also the term racist had also been widely used .....globally and blind just follow blind any thing that does not suite a particular colour person become racist ...
[11:34 am, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: so before a committee is setup is best we this one really have to educate the public ...
[11:35 am, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: the correct definition of the term in our society
[11:35 am, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: also there is a think line between racist and discrimination ...
[11:41 am, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: sorry thin not think ...
[11:41 am, 11/05/2021] +Boon Phing: Depending on how we look at things... one perspective is The citizen of Singapore is, and many are, trying hard to get SG out from COVID19 asap. However, seeing people flouting the rules get them frustrated... those who flout the rules are not just Indian Indian, Chinese as well, ang mo as well...
So if we look at this perspective, it is not really racism at play... it is “our livelihood” at play. In this case, we should look at how to reduce the number of people ignoring the rules.
[11:43 am, 11/05/2021] +SL: Racism should not happen in Singapore. A cohesive society is important, we are one big family and such act should not be allowed and inpact our country reputation.
[11:44 am, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: agree
[11:46 am, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: visitors to this country also should respect our local way of life / culture also dun try to infuse their believes into our society gears, as the saying goes his meat could be my poison
[11:57 am, 11/05/2021] ☸️ Danny 心: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/lee-hsien-loong-ministers-alleged-racism-man-racial-slur-kick-14782276
Singapore various leaders speak out against racism against Indians due to beating and shouting against Indians in Singapore.
Racism arise because of more imported India double mutants discovered.
[0:00 pm, 11/05/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/man-arrested-attacking-two-asian-201312953.html
Man arrested for attacking two Asian women in their 60s with a cinder block at liquor store
[0:00 pm, 11/05/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/asian-women-stabbed-san-francisco-190914990.html
2 Asian Women Stabbed In San Francisco Amid Rise In Anti-Asian Violence
[0:01 pm, 11/05/2021] +REACH: Hari Raya under Covid-19 disappointing, but safety measures necessary: President Halimah
The tighter Covid-19 safety measures are necessary to save the lives of Singaporeans, said President Halimah Yacob, as she called on everyone here to do their part to overcome the pandemic.
More: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/hari-raya-under-covid-19-disappointing-but-safety-measures-necessary-president-halimah
[0:01 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: Not surprising where this is happening
[0:01 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: Agree
[0:02 pm, 11/05/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
We don't want to end up like US - after Trump rally his base claiming kung-flu.
And now in Singapore - going after the Indians.
[0:02 pm, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: same for chinese new year was also in the same situation restricted conditions all for society sake
[0:02 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: Yes
[0:03 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: Agree
[0:03 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: Definitely
[0:04 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: Heartwarming banner placed outside Tan Tock Seng Hospital by ‘silent supporters’
https://sg.news/?p=542004
[0:05 pm, 11/05/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/covid-outbreak-worlds-most-vaccinated-country-among-people-havent-jab-161252523.html
Covid outbreak in the most vaccinated Country - Seychelles happen to those unvaccinated.
Sinopharm is the vaccine used and is found to be effective.
[0:06 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: Live coverage: Ministerial statements on S'pore's Covid-19 situation
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/live-coverage-ministerial-statements-on-spores-covid-19-situation
[0:07 pm, 11/05/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
BioNTech vaccines work against India double mutants variants.
No need a booster.
[0:15 pm, 11/05/2021] +Poh S. Lim: We need to keep educating our people here on the equality of the races, dignity and rights of ALL humans regardless of race. Xenophobia has a tendency to rear its ugly head when society feels threatened and this is where laws help to protect minorities from harm when it comes to that.
[0:17 pm, 11/05/2021] +Leonard Lau: https://www.straitstimes.com/ministerial-statements-on-sg-covid-19-situation
[0:18 pm, 11/05/2021] +Caleb: If vaccine supplies arrive as scheduled, we will complete the vaccination programme by the end of the year, he said.
[0:18 pm, 11/05/2021] +Caleb: 6 months ago they said by Aug
[0:19 pm, 11/05/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
This is a case of Pavlov classical conditioning:-
1. Where Trump arouse the lowest instinct of human to react to the sight of Asian descent and associates it with covid by invoking kung-flu or Asian-flu.
2. Likewise people tend to associate TTSH cluster to the latest outbreak.
3. Similarly, people react to Indians - by associating double mutants covid and the news of many people falling in India to covid.
Thus we must not react to our lowest instinct associated with Pavlov classical conditioning - but rise above it to rationalize and reasoning - so that we can respond rationally.
[0:20 pm, 11/05/2021] +Caleb: I went TCM last weekend and was asked have I been to TTSH
[0:20 pm, 11/05/2021] +Caleb: It should be have I been on SHN or LOA or monitored by MOH phone calls
[0:20 pm, 11/05/2021] ☸️ Danny 心: 🤷
[0:21 pm, 11/05/2021] +Caleb: It is just like places don't ask have we been to Jewel, airport or Ports
[0:21 pm, 11/05/2021] +Caleb: Or asked have u been to the list of places that covid cases have went
[0:22 pm, 11/05/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
In crisis, we need to stay cool and respond rationally and appropriately.
No choice if people are taking precautions.
[0:27 pm, 11/05/2021] ☸️ Danny 心: https://m.economictimes.com/news/india/who-classifies-india-variant-as-being-of-global-concern/articleshow/82528948.cms
WHO classifies India variant as being of global concern
[0:29 pm, 11/05/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
Most important we must keep our cool and not resort to temper and worst using violence.
No one is at fault.
This is a a nature triggered crisis - and all the more we need to be united and respond to the crisis rationally and appropriately.
[0:33 pm, 11/05/2021] +REACH: Parliament: 1.8m have received at least 1 dose of Covid-19 vaccine in S'pore; younger people to be included
Younger people will be invited to receive Covid-19 vaccinations from the later half of this month (May), but they will be doled out progressively given the limited supply of the jabs, said Health Minister Gan Kim Yong on Tuesday (May 11).
More: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/parliament-18m-have-received-at-least-1-dose-of-covid-19-vaccine-in-spore-younger-people
[0:34 pm, 11/05/2021] +Alvin Lim: I’ve seen vaccination Centre totally empty on weekdays afternoons
[0:34 pm, 11/05/2021] +jimmy chew: We're just bringing out what's in our subconscious mind. Like Trump and white Americans. Japanese and Korean. Chinese and Japanese and Koreans.
[0:34 pm, 11/05/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
Oh good.
The faster and the more people get vaccinated - the faster we emerge from this pandemic.
[0:34 pm, 11/05/2021] +Alvin Lim: Pls open to all ages before zhun
[0:35 pm, 11/05/2021] +Alvin Lim: *June
[0:35 pm, 11/05/2021] +Caleb: I guess is the stock issue.
[0:35 pm, 11/05/2021] +Caleb: Worldwide out of stock
[0:38 pm, 11/05/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
Yes.
Pavlov classical conditioning - is invoking the sub-conscious mind, the lowest natural instinct.
When people are not mindful by thinking deeper - will react intuitively.
Trump use this with devastating effects throughout his 4 years tenure.
[0:44 pm, 11/05/2021] +CQ: Pavlov classical conditioning refers to involuntary responses such as salivating. Operant conditioning deals with voluntary behaviour, but this is usually coupled with reward or punishment.
This type of behaviour has nothing to do with conditioning. This is just a conscious choice of scapegoating, pinning the blame of the problem on a particular group of people. This is purely a behavioural issue brought about by messaging, education and upbringing, because these shape a person's value system.
[1:01 pm, 11/05/2021] +REACH: Tighter COVID-19 measures important as Singapore is on a 'knife’s edge': Lawrence Wong
Singapore is now on a "knife’s edge”, with community case numbers that could go either way over the next few weeks, said Minister for Education Lawrence Wong in Parliament on Tuesday (May 11).
More: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/lawrence-wong-covid-19-knife-edge-community-cases-14786090
[1:02 pm, 11/05/2021] +REACH: Over 25,000 tested as part of efforts to detect cases linked to TTSH Covid-19 cluster: Gan Kim Yong
As at Monday (May 10), close to 12,500 people have been tested as part of special testing operations carried out to detect any cases linked to the Tan Tock Seng Hopsital (TTSH) cluster.
More: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/parliament-over-25000-tested-as-part-of-efforts-to-detect-cases-linked-to-ttsh-cluster-gan
[1:04 pm, 11/05/2021] +REACH: Review on whether cyclists must ride in single file on roads, limits on cycling group sizes: Chee Hong Tat
As part of its review of the rules surrounding cycling on roads, the Active Mobility Advisory Panel (AMAP) is considering whether cyclists should be made to ride in a single file, said Senior Minister of State for Transport Chee Hong Tat.
More: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/cycling-motorists-roads-single-file-group-size-review-14785414
[1:14 pm, 11/05/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
My close friend comments:-
1. First is to ask if the stats is correct?
If yes, look like from ST should be credible - then the number is quite high.
2. Gov seriously need to look into this. Whether it is statistically acceptable or there is something wrong with the cold chain preservation of vaccine
[1:19 pm, 11/05/2021] +REACH: ‘Several important lessons’ from Tan Tock Seng Hospital COVID-19 cluster: Gan Kim Yong
Singapore has learnt "several important lessons" from the COVID-19 cluster at Tan Tock Seng Hospital (TTSH), among them - that the B16172 strain “appears very infectious” and vaccines are “not a guarantee” against infection, said Minister for Health Gan Kim Yong on Tuesday (May 11).
More: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/ttsh-covid-19-cluster-b16172-variant-vaccination-gan-kim-yong-14786206
[1:20 pm, 11/05/2021] +REACH: 1,200 travellers daily at Changi Airport in March, but workers still insufficient for Singapore: Lawrence Wong
Arrivals at Changi Airport have increased from about 820 a day last November (2020) to 1,200 in March (2021).
Giving an update to the House on the Government's response to Covid-19 on Tuesday (May 11), Education Minister Lawrence Wong said in Parliament that one reason for this increase is taking in more migrant workers in the construction, marine and process (CMP) sectors, as well as foreign domestic workers.
More: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/1200-travellers-daily-at-changi-airport-in-march-but-workers-still-insufficient
[1:21 pm, 11/05/2021] +SL: Newspaper said she is local.
[1:42 pm, 11/05/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
As per 9 May 2021, we have a total 65 local community cases.
If 30 are fully vaccinated and got infected then almost 46% got breakthrough.
Vaccination say 95% efficacy and only 5% may get through.
But now we are experiencing 46% breakthrough - which I find it difficult to reconcile the vaccines efficacy.
[1:46 pm, 11/05/2021] +Ben: I don’t cycle on the roads, but if its 6am and there are no cars, is this necessary?
[1:48 pm, 11/05/2021] +Ben: Perhaps it should be an offence to block traffic, which is more relevant.
[1:48 pm, 11/05/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
Classical conditioning definition
Classical conditioning is a type of learning that happens unconsciously.
When you learn through classical conditioning, an automatic conditioned response is paired with a specific stimulus. This creates a behavior.
[1:51 pm, 11/05/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
It is a behavioural science that can apply to many fields.
Psychological field, medical field, military, politicians etc adopt and adapt this behaviour in their respective fields
Not just the experimental dog.
[1:54 pm, 11/05/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
It touches on the 5 mental aggregates of human beings :-
1. 5 senses
2. Feelings
3. Perception
4. Judgement
5. Mental formation.
And Pavlov invoke the lowest human instinct response going through all the 5 mental aggregates in quick succession by pairing it with a stimulus.
[1:55 pm, 11/05/2021] +REACH: SportSG sets aside $18 million to help gyms and studios following stricter Covid-19 measures
Sport Singapore (SportSG) has set aside support of up to $18 million under the Sports Resilience Package (SRP) for eligible businesses and self-employed persons (SEP) affected by the latest Covid-19 guidelines.
More: https://www.straitstimes.com/sport/sportsg-sets-aside-18-million-to-help-gyms-and-studios-following-stricter-covid-19-measures
[2:08 pm, 11/05/2021] +REACH: Healthcare workers being asked to move out, shunned in public a ‘very worrisome trend’: Gan Kim Yong
Cases of Tan Tock Seng Hospital (TTSH) employees being shunned in public or asked to move out of homes is “a very worrisome trend”, said Minister for Health Gan Kim Yong on Tuesday (May 11).
More: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/ttsh-covid-19-cluster-nurses-asked-to-move-out-shunned-14786488
[2:10 pm, 11/05/2021] +Joseph Ong: The "small sample fallacy" will reconcile the difference, Of course, there is also the possible that the mutant variant is able to evade some of the protection of the current versions of the vaccine.
[2:11 pm, 11/05/2021] +REACH: BTO projects expected 'to be delayed' by a year or more due to tightened COVID-19 border measures
Many Build-to-Order (BTO) housing projects are expected to be delayed by a year or more, as a result of tighter border measures affecting the construction sector, said Education Minister Lawrence Wong in Parliament on Tuesday (May 11).
More: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/lawrence-wong-impact-of-border-measures-construction-bto-hdb-14786454
[2:12 pm, 11/05/2021] +Joseph Ong: *possibility
[2:14 pm, 11/05/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
Not sure, that is why MOH need to do a deeper study - how come our vaccination outcome are so different from other countries eg. Israel, US UK Spain etc.
Also quite out of synch with vaccines suppliers declaration of 95% efficacy.
Maybe got to work with vaccines suppliers and overseas health authority to reconcile the huge differences in the vaccination outcome.
[2:24 pm, 11/05/2021] +Anne: Actually it is not surprising that one country having different outcome from another country. Factors like genetic, climate, COVID 19 measures, locations of viral strains, government miscalculations and coverups, etc, can contribute to different outcomes. So there’s no need to be surprised by this.
[2:25 pm, 11/05/2021] +Anne: * Factors like differences in genetic, ...
[2:29 pm, 11/05/2021] +Joseph Ong: I personally think one of the big contributing factors to the recent resurgence of community spread cases, is fatigue and complacency. The early success we had with controlling the pandemic and the vaccination drive have ironically played a big part in this.
[2:57 pm, 11/05/2021] +REACH: Bottom 20% of households had GST payments fully offset in past 2 years: Lawrence Wong
Rebates from the various GST offset schemes fully covered the goods and services tax (GST) that families at or below the 20th percentile had to pay in the past two years, and provided a little more, Second Minister for Finance Lawrence Wong told Parliament on Tuesday (May 11).
More: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/bottom-20-per-cent-of-households-had-gst-payments-fully-offset-in-past-two-years
[2:57 pm, 11/05/2021] +REACH: Singapore developing system to build quality and verifiability into carbon trading: Tan See Leng
Singapore is working with industry partners and experts to strengthen the trust and verifiability of carbon credits as part of its ambitions to become a global carbon services and trading hub.
More: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/singapore-developing-system-to-build-quality-and-verifiability-into-carbon
[3:09 pm, 11/05/2021] +Ken: Anyone have insight on how to join this lol
[3:25 pm, 11/05/2021] +Caleb: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/more-than-1100-users-have-deregistered-from-tracetogether-vivian?utm_medium=social&utm_source=instagram&utm_campaign=stig
[3:25 pm, 11/05/2021] +Caleb: means cannot go anywhere?
[3:25 pm, 11/05/2021] +Caleb: other then hawker and coffeeshop
[3:29 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: 😅🤣😂
[3:37 pm, 11/05/2021] +Alvin Lim: https://mothership.sg/2021/05/not-chinese-virus-indian-variant-lawrence-wong/
[3:43 pm, 11/05/2021] +Elena Woo: By rights hawker and coffeeshop also need to use TT.
[3:44 pm, 11/05/2021] +KS Foong: Any restrictions on this group of people? Are they allow to enter any public places that need tracetogether scan ? Will this encourages more people to follow suit?
[3:50 pm, 11/05/2021] +REACH: Govt to take into Budget up to 50% of long-term expected returns from reserves: Lawrence Wong
With a Budget deficit expected for this financial year, the Government plans on taking up to 50 per cent of the long-term expected returns from Singapore's reserves, the maximum amount it can take into the Budget under the Net Investment Return Contribution (NIRC), said Second Minister for Finance Lawrence Wong.
More: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/parliament-govt-plans-on-taking-into-budget-the-maximum-amount-allowed-of-the
[3:51 pm, 11/05/2021] +REACH: HSA evaluating if Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine can be used for those aged 12 to 15
The Health Sciences Authority (HSA) is currently evaluating whether the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine is safe and effective for those aged 12 to 15, Health Minister Gan Kim Yong told Parliament on Tuesday (May 11).
More: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/hsa-evaluating-if-pfizer-biontech-vaccine-can-be-used-in-those-aged-12-to-15
[3:54 pm, 11/05/2021] +REACH: Gan Kim Yong to remain as co-chair of COVID-19 task force
Minister for Health Gan Kim Yong will continue to co-chair the COVID-19 multi-ministry task force after he moves to the Ministry of Trade and Industry on May 15.
More: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/gan-kim-yong-covid-19-task-force-co-chair-cabinet-reshuffle-14786664
[3:54 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: Great
[3:59 pm, 11/05/2021] +Alvin Lim: What about OYK and TSL?
[3:59 pm, 11/05/2021] +Alvin Lim: Will they join as Task Force committee members?
[4:00 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: 3 men co- chair!?
[4:04 pm, 11/05/2021] +Alvin Lim: https://www.facebook.com/592308557475467/posts/4340304162675869/?d=n
[4:05 pm, 11/05/2021] +Alvin Lim: Nice
[4:05 pm, 11/05/2021] +Alvin Lim: Let’s hope by end of Jun we have 50% of the population fully vaccinated
[4:07 pm, 11/05/2021] +Ben: Thank you. We took great measures to avoid calling it a Chinese Virus, so why is it now called an Indian Variant?
[4:08 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: Exactly
[4:08 pm, 11/05/2021] +Ben: This means what?
[4:12 pm, 11/05/2021] +Caleb: Aiyo
[4:12 pm, 11/05/2021] +Wilson Leong: Is it link or unlink
[4:12 pm, 11/05/2021] +Caleb: Link to imported
[4:14 pm, 11/05/2021] +Alvin Lim: Wait for news later
[4:14 pm, 11/05/2021] +Alvin Lim: Must also see details tonight
[4:14 pm, 11/05/2021] +Alvin Lim: Ladies and gents it’s time to take this very seriously.
[4:15 pm, 11/05/2021] +Alvin Lim: Pls tell all your family friends relatives to treat this seriously cos don’t wanna Phase 1
[4:15 pm, 11/05/2021] +Stella Yip: There is also the UK variant mah
[4:15 pm, 11/05/2021] +Alvin Lim: Imagine can’t eat outside again all can only Dabao
[4:16 pm, 11/05/2021] +Stella Yip: may be that is how they reference to country/region variant??
[4:16 pm, 11/05/2021] +Ben: and South African etc etc.... I understand it's intended to identify areas people might have travelled to, but it's a bad way of labelling.
[4:16 pm, 11/05/2021] +Kevin: You think people will listen meh
[4:17 pm, 11/05/2021] +Stella Yip: Agree, please suggest how to improve. Dont stop there leh
[4:18 pm, 11/05/2021] +Alvin Lim: We all have to
[4:18 pm, 11/05/2021] +Alvin Lim: Otherwise Phase 1
[4:18 pm, 11/05/2021] +Ben: give it some random scientific name and then warn people who have been in the region where it was found.... lol
[4:18 pm, 11/05/2021] +Alvin Lim: Come on you all want that meh?
[4:22 pm, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: Tell that to the west, started off with chinese den they start labeling it per the variant with the country name. There is already a scientific name attach each variant that comes with a code but is alpha numeric.
[4:25 pm, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: Thats why i mentioned tread on auch name carefully dun abit jump and say is a racist remark if yes den everything can be racist remark like the chinese govt says.... Ooooo u got issue with chinese govt, or indian doctors says dun use xxxx ooooo racist u use Indian. See the context which term is use
[4:26 pm, 11/05/2021] +Kevin: For me no issue but problem is other people will listen?
[4:26 pm, 11/05/2021] +Kevin: How about this? Can someone explain?
[4:26 pm, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: Is not about individual is about the society now where not understand why still so stubborn.
[4:27 pm, 11/05/2021] +Kevin: Ya lah
[4:28 pm, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: All for one reason self.... Is me myself and i.... Thats all i can see
[4:29 pm, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: Suffer now a bit as a society and reap a better ending see now walking on the fence... If fall to the other side the 2nd cb will really be a deep hole for all
[4:35 pm, 11/05/2021] +Stella Yip: I think we are doing great as a society and 99.99% is supportive. Dont keep tightening measures on people who are cooperative already. It is that tiny percentage who r using loop holes that G must manage.
[4:35 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: Yes
[4:38 pm, 11/05/2021] +Boon: 👍 +at the same time, whether if the Asian make-up was sufficiently included in the rush by the vaccine makers
[4:38 pm, 11/05/2021] +REACH: 13 new community COVID-19 cases, including 7 linked to Changi Airport cluster
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-community-new-cases-imported-moh-may-11-changi-airport-14784934
[4:40 pm, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: Thus is time to clamp down on this small groups enuff of soft approach. These are the weakest link to the group effort put in
[4:40 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: Agree
[4:42 pm, 11/05/2021] +Ben: I know, the poor Spanish will never live it down! They were the honourable ones by declaring the flu back in 1918 when neither the UK nor Germany would admit it.
[4:42 pm, 11/05/2021] +REACH: Sinovac Covid-19 vaccine still being evaluated for use in S'pore: Gan Kim Yong
The Sinovac Covid-19 vaccine is still being evaluated for use here, Health Minister Gan Kim Yong told Parliament on Tuesday (May 11).
More: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/sinovac-vaccine-still-being-evaluated-for-use-in-singapore-gan
[4:43 pm, 11/05/2021] +Ben: Lol yes, but the virus is not country specific so shouldn't be labelled that way.
[4:43 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: So, wuhan virus should be OK!?
[4:43 pm, 11/05/2021] +Ben: No, lol. My point is not to use the place of discovery as the label.
[4:43 pm, 11/05/2021] +Ben: We don't know where it came from and it's not relevant anyway.
[4:44 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: Or anymore!?
[4:44 pm, 11/05/2021] +Ben: By labeling it after the place it was discovered people associate negative things with that place and the people, as if it's their fault.
[4:45 pm, 11/05/2021] +Ben: We can't blame everyone who lives in Wuhan, or develop a stigma about them.
[4:45 pm, 11/05/2021] +Ben: It's totally irrelevant and harmful to do that
[4:45 pm, 11/05/2021] +Ben: We could thank them for discovering it, but I know that is going too far lol 😉
[4:49 pm, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: Others thing else way. So best way is to handle this with an open mind. Not all things are racist intent. Is a name only like mr shakey spear says whats a name of a rose when it can be call others and yet i know is a flower something like that
[4:50 pm, 11/05/2021] +Ben: It's not racist to use the name of a country of course. It's when the association is used to create a negative effect of the people associated with that country.
[4:50 pm, 11/05/2021] +Ben: *from that country
[4:51 pm, 11/05/2021] +Ben: ie Asian people being attacked because they are associated with a China Virus
[4:51 pm, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: There is nothing negative actually ... Till mr trump started it....
[4:51 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: Don't think so
[4:52 pm, 11/05/2021] +Ben: In many ways yes, he used it to stir up racism.
[4:52 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: It was not that bad before
[4:52 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: Yes
[4:52 pm, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: They attack Asian is more the virus thing.
[4:52 pm, 11/05/2021] +Ben: Like it was something 'they' did deliberately because 'they' are bad people.
[4:52 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: Looks like it
[4:53 pm, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: But labeling the variants against the country seriously to me at least is not that bad
[4:53 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: So why changed wuhan virus to covid-19!?
[4:54 pm, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: With this rate every country soon will have a variant tagged to their name ....
[4:54 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: 🤣🤣😅
[4:55 pm, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: That point in time only 1 strained was spreading so no choice someone got to put a global name i think hahaha
[4:55 pm, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: Now so many cousin of c19 wanna be like msia ahh call c19 v1.0 den 2.0 den 3.0 meh
[4:55 pm, 11/05/2021] +SL: Not mentioned it is for 6am right?
[4:56 pm, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: Easier and fastest way is to label it after the place of birth aka the country
[4:57 pm, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: But the grand father no doubt is still wuhan place where the reports first surface
[4:57 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: Unless it quietly appeared elsewhere earlier!?
[4:58 pm, 11/05/2021] +SL: In western country you means? If you are refering to america and Britain, the triggering reason is more than just a global pandemic issue.
[4:58 pm, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: Haiya this one many in the world already suspect is from that somewhere
[4:59 pm, 11/05/2021] +SL: WHO got proper naming convention for virus discover
[5:00 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: When did they last gave!?
[5:00 pm, 11/05/2021] +SL: If you see the origin history of this flu, it us not first discovered in Spanish, Spanish is the first country taking action on it if i K not wrong
[5:01 pm, 11/05/2021] +Ben: yes exactly - UK and Germany didn't want to admit it because they were fighting a World War and were worried about morale. So it just spread.....
[5:02 pm, 11/05/2021] +SL: https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/technical-guidance/naming-the-coronavirus-disease-(covid-2019)-and-the-virus-that-causes-it
[5:03 pm, 11/05/2021] +Kevinn Wang: Like how chikenguna was name, the what yamaha fever was name is all after a local place and is not abt bad labeling or racist intent
[5:06 pm, 11/05/2021] +SL: https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20210427_weekly_epi_update_37.pdf?sfvrsn=a1ab459c_5&download=true
[5:12 pm, 11/05/2021] +Stella Yip: I thought the reason for permitting 2 pax to cycle side by side was to increase visibility for the safety of the riders. Do correct me if untrue. So now cycling group size is more important than cyclist safety??
[5:12 pm, 11/05/2021] +Stella Yip: Ben, I also think it is not necessary.
[5:15 pm, 11/05/2021] +Ben: Make sense to allow that if needed. If this law is to prevent cyclists deliberately blocking the roads, then make a law for that, not everyday cyclists trying to keep safe. Is this in response to that video of the cyclist harassing motorists? He was on his own.....
[5:17 pm, 11/05/2021] +Stella Yip: Oh yes!
[5:21 pm, 11/05/2021] +KS Foong: Time to take more stringent measures now before it is too late
[5:22 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: Hope government has made plans!?
[5:24 pm, 11/05/2021] +Suma pamu: I am sorry
But seem W.H.O and almost All countries
Down playing The Situation.
Lancent journal Mentioned About air borne.. but So far W.H.O didn't gave full Clarity about it and...It has been few weeks ..still No update about it,
I hope The journal is wrong🤞🏽🤞🏽
[5:25 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: Agree on the down play
[5:27 pm, 11/05/2021] +SL: airborne? you means aerosol transmission in confined location?
[5:30 pm, 11/05/2021] +Suma pamu: Plz read above Document. You can also Find in Google... The above is May 1st journal
[5:31 pm, 11/05/2021] +SL: Noted thanks. Btw it is refering to all voc or included the voi classified who?
[5:31 pm, 11/05/2021] +SL: By WHO*
[5:34 pm, 11/05/2021] +SL: https://www.who.int/news-room/commentaries/detail/modes-of-transmission-of-virus-causing-covid-19-implications-for-ipc-precaution-recommendations#:~:text=Airborne%20transmission%20is%20different%20from,generate%20aerosols%20are%20performed%3B
[5:39 pm, 11/05/2021] +Suma pamu: Sorry ...Didn't understand your question ..
From this Link below i got the Above Pdf ..
And I shared it in thjs group on may 1st itself...
I am just wondering whether W.H.O is delaying Something .. hopefully Not ...
And I hope Journal is wrong..
I am no expert in this Field . So don't know Much...
[5:39 pm, 11/05/2021] +Suma pamu: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00869-2/fulltext
[5:39 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: Higher costs, practical challenges if construction workers ferried in buses, not lorries: Amy Khor on industry feedback
https://sg.news/?p=542234
[5:40 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: The costs of a human life is measured in dollars and cents!?
[5:41 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: Vivian Balakrishnan: S’pore will continue to work with India amid ‘difficult times’ & extend help
https://sg.news/?p=542200
[5:41 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: Vaccines ‘not 100% efficacious’ but benefits outweigh risks, offer some protection against variants: Gan Kim Yong
https://sg.news/?p=542185
[5:42 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: Poor housekeeping practices, lapses in cleaning could have led to recent gastroenteritis outbreaks in schools: Grace Fu
https://sg.news/?p=542172
[5:45 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: Rule for road cyclists to ride in single file at all times being studied: Chee Hong Tat
https://sg.news/?p=542104
[5:45 pm, 11/05/2021] +SL: Thanks for the update, i m refering to whether transmision types covered the old or new virus variants
[5:45 pm, 11/05/2021] +Thomas: Get rid of some black sheep who speed and no issues. Cannot guarantee buses will not have accidents and life loss
[5:46 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: Tighter COVID-19 measures important as Singapore is on a 'knife’s edge': Lawrence Wong
https://sg.news/?p=542077
[5:47 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: You have a point
[5:48 pm, 11/05/2021] +SL: India need help. They buying/brought 2 shipload of equipments from Singapore if i m not wrong.
[5:48 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: Correct but the world wide assistance is grossly inadequate at the moment
[5:49 pm, 11/05/2021] +SL: help as much as we can
[5:49 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: Agree
[5:50 pm, 11/05/2021] +Joseph Ong: The costs will be borne by consumers, not the Govt. So I believe the Minister is just making a factual statement, that we may need to consider the associated increase in costs (not for the Govt) for the consumers.
[5:50 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: Yes
[5:52 pm, 11/05/2021] +Dan: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_back_to_where_you_came_from
[5:53 pm, 11/05/2021] +Dan: Racial slurs or insults rise from comments like this~
[5:53 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: More dentists offer discounted services to migrant workers, 1 even performed free root canal
https://sg.news/?p=542050
[5:53 pm, 11/05/2021] +Dan: How many of us had seen comments "Go back to where you came from" in social media.
[5:54 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: I have
[5:57 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: With Covid-19 lurking in new places, provide means for healthcare staff to change out of work attire after shifts
https://sg.news/?p=542294
[6:00 pm, 11/05/2021] +Dan: Racism doesn't happen overnight. It is not something that one decided to do, but an instinctive reaction. It is driven by certain imbalance status or unfair treatment, and at some tipping point, racist slurs is only one of the ways to vent their frustration. (Trying hard to look at it objectively)
[6:04 pm, 11/05/2021] +Dan: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/commentary/covid-19-racist-remarks-racially-charged-xenophobia-14718848
[6:06 pm, 11/05/2021] +CQ: While i agree that racism doesn't happen overnight, i would have to respectfully disagree that racism is an instinctive reaction, but rather, it's a learned behaviour. "learned" from parents, from people immediately around, from society. young children do not differentiate or discriminate just because someone looks different from them. they watch and learn from the adults around them and form their own value system based on what they think is normal. so those adults who told their kids "if you're naughty, APNN will catch you?" is planting that seed into the children's heads that these people who look different = danger.
[6:09 pm, 11/05/2021] +CQ: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/suspect-who-allegedly-used-racial-slur-and-kicked-55-year-old-woman-arrested?utm_campaign=stfb&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR2CJpZ1gPdhhVDl6Ebj49qmaN5A_vAfTnIGcgZ6wg9lpg2aF7wZBOLBFsU
[6:11 pm, 11/05/2021] +Dan: APNN is more like a joke as compared to the latest episodes. Look at the core emotion drivers behind the racist slurs and xenophobic comments. Don't u sense fear? Fear of losing jobs. Fear of facing a new covid variant which unfortunately coined as india variant.
[6:13 pm, 11/05/2021] +CQ: that's my point. using "APNN will catch you" as a joke is not ok. it plants the seed of racism that someone of a different colour/race will kidnap you. that plants the seed of fear, doesn't it?
[6:14 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: Hospitals in Singapore embark on mass Covid-19 swabbing of staff https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/hospitals-in-singapore-embark-on-mass-covid-19-swabbing-of-staff?utm_source=emarsys&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=ST_Newsletter_AM&utm_term=Hospitals+in+Singapore+embark+on+mass+Covid-19+swabbing+of+staff&utm_content=11%2F05%2F2021&utm_source=whatsapp&utm_medium=social-media&utm_campaign=addtoany
[6:14 pm, 11/05/2021] +CQ: so if someone says "it's just a joke" and it's ok, that in itself is a sign that racism has taken root. not to say that this will lead to the same serious attack, but it sure as hell shows that racism is insidious and why it's so important to stamp it out
[6:17 pm, 11/05/2021] +Caleb: u mean we have not been testing?
[6:19 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: 🤷♂️
[6:23 pm, 11/05/2021] +CQ: while i do fear the possibility of losing my job or getting infected and passing it on to my loved ones, the fear is the virus and i step up on my preventive measures eg washing hands, wearing masks properly, not going to crowded places, minimising my time outside etc. i don't blame people based on where they're from, China, India, UK, US etc. i blame an individual's behaviour, eg refusing to wear masks properly, refusing to acknowledge that the pandemic is real, refusing to recognise that they're putting other people at risk etc. granted that we may observe people from certain countries who tend to behave in a certain manner, it's not fair to assume that everyone from that country would behave in that manner. attributing behaviour to a person is fact, attributing behaviour based on their origin/race is racism. most people can't tell the difference.
[6:25 pm, 11/05/2021] +REACH: Thin crowds in public transport, office buildings as Singapore returns to phase 2 of Covid-19 curbs
Peak hour road traffic, commuters on trains and lunchtime crowds dwindled significantly as companies default to work-from-home arrangements on the second weekday of Singapore's return to phase two of its Covid-19 measures.
More: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/thin-crowds-on-public-transport-in-office-buildings-as-singapore-returns-to-phase-2
[6:25 pm, 11/05/2021] +Dan: I agree totally with u. But because we can reason it out. Unfortunately, there are ppl out there who fit into the category that i mentioned.
[6:26 pm, 11/05/2021] +Dan: Here is an example.
[6:27 pm, 11/05/2021] +Dan: And they are not minority. Because whenever such comments appear, many agree or add on to the racist slurs.
[6:27 pm, 11/05/2021] +CQ: i won't trust the FB comments too much, a lot of them are trolls...
[6:28 pm, 11/05/2021] +CQ: i mean.. if the FB commenters are to be believed, every person who has committed an offence ought to be hung, drawn and quartered.. 🤷🏻♀️
[6:29 pm, 11/05/2021] +Dan: Trolls or whatever, there are ppl who believe, and act irrationally.
[6:30 pm, 11/05/2021] +Dan: The toxic environment contributes to these racist incidents we are talking about.
[6:31 pm, 11/05/2021] +CQ: agree, thus i don't think it's an instinctive reaction but a learned behaviour.
[6:33 pm, 11/05/2021] +Dan: Not being in their shoes, i wouldnt know. Its hypothetical , yet there is a possibilitt.
[6:33 pm, 11/05/2021] +Dan: *possibility
[6:34 pm, 11/05/2021] +Ben: Well said
[6:35 pm, 11/05/2021] +Ben: Fb should be accountable for allowing racial abuse on their platform.
[6:35 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: Must come with compulsory jail time.
[6:36 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: Yes
[6:41 pm, 11/05/2021] +CQ: I agree with the idea, but enforcement is difficult because of fake accounts. Users can report the comments for hate speech though.
[6:41 pm, 11/05/2021] +Kevin: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/lawrence-wong-full-ministerial-statement-covid-19-government-14786936
[6:42 pm, 11/05/2021] +Ben: I wonder how well those reports are handled.
[6:43 pm, 11/05/2021] +Ben: Good question.
[6:43 pm, 11/05/2021] +CQ: 🤷🏻♀️ No clue man....
[6:43 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: FB stood up to scrutiny by Congress and yet!?
[6:44 pm, 11/05/2021] +Ben: Unnecessary addition from Straits Times
[6:44 pm, 11/05/2021] +CQ: Nah, that was way before Min Shan grilled them harder than an overcooked steak 😆
[6:45 pm, 11/05/2021] +Dan: Thanks for the fueled discussion. I think that is what this platform is about.
[6:45 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: You got that right!
[6:45 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: So, what's wrong with saying wuhan virus!?
[6:46 pm, 11/05/2021] +Leonard Lau: Agree with you .
It’s all started with Micro-aggressions eg jokes at workplace etc . If we are going to accept things as it is ..Singapore will be in trouble .
[6:46 pm, 11/05/2021] +CQ: It's factual though. Saying "first identified in xx" is factual, shortening it to "xx virus" is sailing close to the wind.
Interesting thing I observed, when the variant from UK was identified, there wasn't such a strong racist reaction as the current variant from India. Why though?
[6:47 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: Good point but🤷♂️
[6:47 pm, 11/05/2021] +Ben: Why mention where it is from at all? Words matter and this is unnecessary at a time of racial unrest.
[6:47 pm, 11/05/2021] +Ben: No need to highlight this point
[6:47 pm, 11/05/2021] +Leonard Lau: Precisely
[6:50 pm, 11/05/2021] +CQ: I think it's a factual report, but have to be fair in coverage. I don't see that issue in SG, but the western media tends to label POC a certain way. Eg they're quick to call something a terror attack if it involves a Muslim, but if its a white guy shooting 8 women (6 of which are Asians), it's just a white guy and "he was just having a bad day".
[6:50 pm, 11/05/2021] +REACH: Dear Contributors,
⏰ We will be closing the chat in 10 minutes ⏰
Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Goodnight!
Megan
[6:51 pm, 11/05/2021] +jimmy chew: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpykvJ9ZymI
[6:52 pm, 11/05/2021] +jimmy chew: Well spoken
[6:53 pm, 11/05/2021] +Leonard Lau: Let’s us go back to history .
Indians was one of major community that came to Singapore after it was founded . Indians had worked hard and built roads and infrastructure. They fought the Japanese too . They contributed to business and social development . They deserve the respect at least .
[6:54 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: Thumbs up!
[6:57 pm, 11/05/2021] +Caleb: https://www.moh.gov.sg/news-highlights/details/checks-on-masks-sold-in-singapore-for-effectiveness-against-covid-19/
[6:57 pm, 11/05/2021] +Caleb: Can TTSH or all hospital settings make sure all visitors wear surgical mask?
[6:57 pm, 11/05/2021] +Caleb: In view of the current highten measu6
[6:57 pm, 11/05/2021] +Caleb: Measures
[7:00 pm, 11/05/2021] +Rama: https://mothership.sg/2021/05/man-racist-attack-indian-woman-arrested/
[7:00 pm, 11/05/2021] +REACH: Dear Contributors,
We will be closing the chat for today.
Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Goodnight!
Megan 😊
[7:01 pm, 11/05/2021] +REACH: In full: Lawrence Wong's ministerial statement on whole-of-government response to COVID-19
Education Minister Lawrence Wong on Tuesday (May 11) delivered a ministerial statement in Parliament on Singapore's whole-of-government response to the COVID-19 pandemic.
More: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/lawrence-wong-full-ministerial-statement-covid-19-government-14786936
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