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By Lydia Lam
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Goh Jon Hin
Sounds a bit like AJib provided the services, AJib raised the invoice, AJib facilitated and processed the invoice, AJib cleared the invoice and Finance made the payment and somehow, part of the money ended up in AJib's pocket.
Ricky Lim
This is a deadly major non-compliance case - that any auditors worth the salt will have picked it up in any audit.
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Goh Jon Hin
Ricky Lim
Some how the urge of greed, that one sin preceded all common senses of rationale, sanity and clarity to the extent that they became blinded.
Non-compliance in audit was then the last thing in they world they were worried about. Didn't Ms How testified that?
爱钱心切，导至猪油蒙了心。
大多罪行，不都是一念之差，一失足而成千古恨。
Some how the urge of greed, that one sin preceded all common senses of rationale, sanity and clarity to the extent that they became blinded.
Non-compliance in audit was then the last thing in they world they were worried about. Didn't Ms How testified that?
爱钱心切，导至猪油蒙了心。
大多罪行，不都是一念之差，一失足而成千古恨。
Ricky Lim
Goh Jon Hin - My observation is that :-
(1) WP is too eager to prove that they can run a GRC to grow their political influence.
(2) They overestimated their capabilities - and desperately try to handle the GRC - even to the extend of breaching rules and procedures - and in their desperation - even "misrepresent" to get it going.
(3) By doing so, the way they conduct their governance and management - has led to "someone able to put a gun on their head" ==== and fleece them "big time" --- leading to the lost of public fund.
Note :- If one party aspire to govern :-
(1) They must demonstrate "Competency"
(2) Integrity
(3) Ability to see through confusion, complexity - and takeover the town council management with effective structure, organised and systematic manner --- not "kalang kabut" --- breaching all rules, cut corners and breach law.
(4) Really serving the public - selflessly.
Look at how Mr Lee KY - take over the governance of Singapore - in the crisis, chaos, lawlessness and hopelessnes --- when Singapore face British withdrawal, racial riot, force independence, communalism, communism, threat of water cuts etc....
Mr Lee KY（大将之风）（临危不乱）（一夫当关，万夫莫敌 - 之势） takeover beautifully with poise, structure, organised and systematic manner --- not "kalang kabut" - to overcome all overwhelming odds and come up stronger (to the extent that it is admired by the World - how Singapore has become a modernised 1st World Country).
If WP is to take over under the same sceanrio --- Singapore will have mati and die very badly.
A highly competent party when facing a crisis - should demonstrate all the hallmarks of “站如松、坐如钟、行如风、卧如弓".
I have not seen this anywhere in WP --- except "kalang kabut" !
(1) WP is too eager to prove that they can run a GRC to grow their political influence.
(2) They overestimated their capabilities - and desperately try to handle the GRC - even to the extend of breaching rules and procedures - and in their desperation - even "misrepresent" to get it going.
(3) By doing so, the way they conduct their governance and management - has led to "someone able to put a gun on their head" ==== and fleece them "big time" --- leading to the lost of public fund.
Note :- If one party aspire to govern :-
(1) They must demonstrate "Competency"
(2) Integrity
(3) Ability to see through confusion, complexity - and takeover the town council management with effective structure, organised and systematic manner --- not "kalang kabut" --- breaching all rules, cut corners and breach law.
(4) Really serving the public - selflessly.
Look at how Mr Lee KY - take over the governance of Singapore - in the crisis, chaos, lawlessness and hopelessnes --- when Singapore face British withdrawal, racial riot, force independence, communalism, communism, threat of water cuts etc....
Mr Lee KY（大将之风）（临危不乱）（一夫当关，万夫莫敌 - 之势） takeover beautifully with poise, structure, organised and systematic manner --- not "kalang kabut" - to overcome all overwhelming odds and come up stronger (to the extent that it is admired by the World - how Singapore has become a modernised 1st World Country).
If WP is to take over under the same sceanrio --- Singapore will have mati and die very badly.
A highly competent party when facing a crisis - should demonstrate all the hallmarks of “站如松、坐如钟、行如风、卧如弓".
I have not seen this anywhere in WP --- except "kalang kabut" !
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Green ICT Technology Sharing
Ricky Lim : PAP also start with a few productive public servant. For 50 years - public are the one paying and keeping our own environment safe & clean. Most of the significant public project were outsource & out-tasks to capable private bodies. We are one piece of land and everyone who work hard - get opportunities. Political party can only start to put together operational & need resources when the know the baseline to support. If you had no experience managing such situation. Don't talk Big. Singapore need people who are willing to serve. And there is a starting point. When all competition is being "kill". We were not learn and we were not improve. After 50 years - we have a different baseline. The old ways & believe dun work anymore. Many Public Services Infr are so outdated. Is about the quality and principle of co-exist.
Ricky Lim
Green ICT Technology Sharing - Don't understand what you are saying and how is your argument apply to AHTC case.
(1) WP terminate AIM - and refuse to use AIM software --- they make false claim that AIM want to withdraw and they can't use it - that is why they can't balance the account.
(2) WP pull out CPG - where there is still 2 years left of contract with them.
So how is your argument of "outsource & out-tasks to capable private bodies." - make any sense here? Both AIM and CPG are capable private bodies - but WP did not leverage on them - and led to FMSS fleecing them big time.
WP make all the wrong decision, then tell lies and blame it on PAP - instead of leveraging on AIM and CPG to continue to provide the service and beef up their resources --- so how does your logic make sense?
And if you ask me I talk big with no experience -- I think WP has no match if you are talking about a mere $100 million project.
(1) WP terminate AIM - and refuse to use AIM software --- they make false claim that AIM want to withdraw and they can't use it - that is why they can't balance the account.
(2) WP pull out CPG - where there is still 2 years left of contract with them.
So how is your argument of "outsource & out-tasks to capable private bodies." - make any sense here? Both AIM and CPG are capable private bodies - but WP did not leverage on them - and led to FMSS fleecing them big time.
WP make all the wrong decision, then tell lies and blame it on PAP - instead of leveraging on AIM and CPG to continue to provide the service and beef up their resources --- so how does your logic make sense?
And if you ask me I talk big with no experience -- I think WP has no match if you are talking about a mere $100 million project.
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Ricky Lim
Green ICT Technology Sharing -
And you claim Public Services Infra are so outdated ---- can you be more precise what you mean?
I believe you are from the IT line - then let's start talking about IT - and which part of IT infra you think the public services are outdated?
And you claim you are a "Green ICT Technology Sharing" - can you elaborate what green ICT tech you can share?
So let see you talk big or I talk big.
In case you talk big - here is the news headline 2018 "Singapore has become the most tech-savvy country in the world for the third time in a row."
You seems to be the most misinformed IT guy in Singapore - if you claim that our public service infra is outdated.
And you claim Public Services Infra are so outdated ---- can you be more precise what you mean?
I believe you are from the IT line - then let's start talking about IT - and which part of IT infra you think the public services are outdated?
And you claim you are a "Green ICT Technology Sharing" - can you elaborate what green ICT tech you can share?
So let see you talk big or I talk big.
In case you talk big - here is the news headline 2018 "Singapore has become the most tech-savvy country in the world for the third time in a row."
You seems to be the most misinformed IT guy in Singapore - if you claim that our public service infra is outdated.
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Green ICT Technology Sharing
Ricky Lim : When I am doing DP a ICT. You might not even be born yet. When I am doing multi million & billion dollar Projects. Both for Private & Public sector. You are reading news articles & you think you know all. You definately talk BIG and no knowledge of how the society actually work. Is for the Public to decide what and who has done "RIGHT" a "WRONG".
Yeok Fong Yong
In Singapore, suing opposition has curious consequences. If they are found to be guilty, it is political persecution, if they are found not guilty, they are being harassed. Hmmm…maybe this is why people started to form new party now because Opposition in Singapore is considered “endangered species” or become “Untouchable”. heheheeeeee
Lau Lan Chu
Even non compliance found by auditor and huge money cannot be accounted for can be okay, as long as in good faith. If the judge wants to set precedent and judge defendants not liable, more of this to come, judge also got to think twice to make this a case law and from then every case can use good faith to fight quoating this precedence.
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Petjay Catarbas
I believe AG had conducted many audits on Govt bodies with small and big audit findings. Some lapses were due to carelessness, negligence and lack of knowledge etc. Follow up actions were taken to correct these audit findings and verified to auditors' satisfaction. No one was told to pay for the audit findings. Therefore this case can take reference from past AG audit findings and how the audit findings were handled.
Ricky Lim
All these audit findings did not have the elements of :-
(1) making misrepresentation to Authority to approve the waiver of tender (WP is suspected to have done this - as per reveal in the Court)
(2) to make a vendor as part of the evaluation team - and become recommender of their own solution and benefited themselves financially with a huge sum --- $33 million (FMSS has benefitted financially from these).
As for other audit findings --- the above elements are absent - and they do not benefit themselves financially or make false representations in the conduct of their tender.
Also who say there are no penalties for poor audit findings?
The poor audit findings result in poor appraisal, wage freeze or bonus cut to those involved and could have impacted their career progression.
If one is "geelat" in civil service, they are expected to carry out their responsibilites and roles well ---- negligence, lack of knowledge, carelessness etc are not excuses.
Good system and internal controls need to be put in place and responsible officers need to have good "innate good common sense" --- to ensure lapse will not occur or greatly minimise.
This is expected of world class civil service - who is custodian of the public funds.
If don't believe ask Mr LeeKY - who is always held as the benchmark for "Top Notch Excellence in Governance".
(1) making misrepresentation to Authority to approve the waiver of tender (WP is suspected to have done this - as per reveal in the Court)
(2) to make a vendor as part of the evaluation team - and become recommender of their own solution and benefited themselves financially with a huge sum --- $33 million (FMSS has benefitted financially from these).
As for other audit findings --- the above elements are absent - and they do not benefit themselves financially or make false representations in the conduct of their tender.
Also who say there are no penalties for poor audit findings?
The poor audit findings result in poor appraisal, wage freeze or bonus cut to those involved and could have impacted their career progression.
If one is "geelat" in civil service, they are expected to carry out their responsibilites and roles well ---- negligence, lack of knowledge, carelessness etc are not excuses.
Good system and internal controls need to be put in place and responsible officers need to have good "innate good common sense" --- to ensure lapse will not occur or greatly minimise.
This is expected of world class civil service - who is custodian of the public funds.
If don't believe ask Mr LeeKY - who is always held as the benchmark for "Top Notch Excellence in Governance".
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Lau Lan Chu
This is a different case. WP think they are no wrong how to follow up with corrective action. They even tried ways to cover up. A lot of people think this is political driven to fix the opposition and WP is perfectly alright. The whole court case is a big wayang and negligence and ignorance are excusable under the law, and huge amount of public fund is unaccounted for, just write off and move on will do and they continue to do their MP collecting monthly 15K allowance. They can even donate as good deed to help them. There is no case at all. No remorse at all and continue to blame others for their outcome . As Chinese says "People is doing and sky is watching " let's Patiently wait for the outcome.
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Ricky Lim
Lau Lan Chu - There are always consequences to good or bad outcome. Else public funds will continue to be lost.
I don't view this as political driven to fix the opposition --- as there is genuine lost of public funds through "misrepresentation, misgovernance and there is gaining of financial benefits to one appointed as part of Town Council team" - unlike other audit cases.
This is the tactics to "sow distraction - by trying to hide it under the cloak of politics" - when it is a clear mismanagement and misgovernance that result in lost of public fund - a clear cut court case.
This is the same as GM of AMK town council - where the GM benefitted financially with suspected corruption. The Government don't hold back the prosecution simply this GM is from AMK town council - when there is genuine wrongdoing.
The $33 million public funds need to be recovered.
I don't view this as political driven to fix the opposition --- as there is genuine lost of public funds through "misrepresentation, misgovernance and there is gaining of financial benefits to one appointed as part of Town Council team" - unlike other audit cases.
This is the tactics to "sow distraction - by trying to hide it under the cloak of politics" - when it is a clear mismanagement and misgovernance that result in lost of public fund - a clear cut court case.
This is the same as GM of AMK town council - where the GM benefitted financially with suspected corruption. The Government don't hold back the prosecution simply this GM is from AMK town council - when there is genuine wrongdoing.
The $33 million public funds need to be recovered.
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