REACH 215 - Register for vaccine (SK)
14 Apr 2021 (11am - 7pm)
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[11:00 am, 14/04/2021] +REACH: 📢 Topic 📢
People who want to choose which Covid-19 vaccine to take can now refer to the Ministry of Health's (MOH's) website, where the full list of vaccination centres and vaccines has now been made available.
💬 Have you registered for your vaccination or been vaccinated? We want to hear your experience.
How can we encourage those eligible around us to register as well?
People are able to pick which vaccination centre or polyclinic they wish to go to, although a notice on the site adds that certain centres may have limited slots "due to the strong demand for Covid-19 vaccinations in Singapore and limited supplies". The Moderna shot is being given at 11 out of the 38 centres, while the rest are using the Pfizer-BioNTech product.
"Each vaccination centre will only stock and administer one type of vaccine," MOH said in a statement last month. "Individuals must select the same vaccination centre for both their first and second appointments, when booking via the national appointment system."
👉 https://str.sg/Jygy
👉 List of vaccination centres: https://www.vaccine.gov.sg/locations-vcs
👉 Covid-19 jabs to be extended to those below 45 from June: https://str.sg/JCLM
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[11:02 am, 14/04/2021] +Caleb: many want to get vaccinated, the only hope to be able to go overseas
[11:02 am, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
1. Yes registered for 1st and 2nd jab.
2. Check the cc to ensure it provides Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine before registration.
[11:02 am, 14/04/2021] +Caleb: if not they will not want to be vax
[11:06 am, 14/04/2021] +Ben: Yes registered for both. Didn't know which at the time, and didn't mind since both Modena and Pfizer are fine
[11:07 am, 14/04/2021] +Ben: Yes,but we can't take our kids yet!
[11:40 am, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
1. One of my problem is, unable to persuade one elderly to register for the vaccination - as he is afraid of side effects.
2. All my siblings try persuading him but not successful.
3. Any idea whether government can send medical counsellor to persuade him?
[11:41 am, 14/04/2021] +Caleb: Send him to polyclinic doc?
[11:41 am, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/who-ban-live-wild-mammals-food-markets-transmit-disease-virus-14613428
Seems like WHO has identified wild animals are the main source of World pandemic.
[11:41 am, 14/04/2021] +Caleb: Get his friends
[11:43 am, 14/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: There were 3 waves of health ambassadors sent to households to educate and convince seniors for vaccinations . Some are super stubborn which is difficult to be managed
[11:43 am, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
He refused to go.
Even his friends also cannot persuade him.
We out of the wits already.
Hopefully medical counsellor can do home visit, persuade him and if better, register on the spot if he is persuaded.
[11:44 am, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
No one go to his house yet.
[11:44 am, 14/04/2021] +Ben: If someone isn't wanting to travel then I can understand why they don't want the vaccine
[11:44 am, 14/04/2021] +Ben: Why pressure them right now?
[11:44 am, 14/04/2021] +Caleb: Show him videos of ppl caught covid and were struggling
[11:44 am, 14/04/2021] +Ben: Give the vaccine to someone else, and them come back later to people who didn't take it anyway
[11:45 am, 14/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: Pls check with the constituency CC as they suppose to cover every household in the area
[11:45 am, 14/04/2021] +Ben: There are no cases here, so people don't see the need
[11:45 am, 14/04/2021] +Ben: If someone doesn't want it right now then give it to someone who does
[11:45 am, 14/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: Yes . Many chose to wait and see .
[11:46 am, 14/04/2021] +Ben: When there is no one left in the queue then go back to those who refused it and put tome and resources into addressing g the problem then.
[11:46 am, 14/04/2021] +Ben: Yes, and let them.
[11:46 am, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
I was informed that someone visited him yesterday.
He out talk that guy.....
[11:46 am, 14/04/2021] +Ben: I dont understand this desire to pressure people into taking it when others are queueing up
[11:47 am, 14/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: Thus some netizens were joking and suggesting to provide them only free Sinovac jabs when come to their turn ..
[11:48 am, 14/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: Let it go for now .
[11:48 am, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
Sigh ......
[11:49 am, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
He is more afraid of the side effects.
[11:49 am, 14/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: Side effects .. was there misunderstanding of the case ?
[11:50 am, 14/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: I had seen many fake side effects messages sent to WA groups. Is he misguided ?
[11:50 am, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
I think he is misguided.
But he can't be persuaded.
[11:52 am, 14/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: Let’s the fact convince him later especially after most citizens are vaccinated .
[11:53 am, 14/04/2021] +Ben: Yes, agreed.
[11:53 am, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
Hopefully that's the only solution.
[0:18 pm, 14/04/2021] +Ben: In answer to the question about encouraging people, my thoughts are that we focus on giving the vaccine to those who want it first, we is already being done. Once everyone who wants it has had it, then do a public campaign highlighting how many have had it, their demographics and why they took it. Get some testimonials saying that it didn't harm them and they feel better being vaccinated. Sure enough, others will soon start to get it done.
[0:20 pm, 14/04/2021] +Ben: The exception are those who should have it, such as teachers and other front line key workers.
[0:20 pm, 14/04/2021] +Ben: If they don't sign up then publicise how important it is for them and the people they are in contact with
[0:37 pm, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
Maybe activate psychologist to persuade such elderly who is afraid of the vaccines.
[0:48 pm, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
Professional Psychologist maybe can use reverse psychology to break harden views or fear - and persuade even harden and stubborn people who steadfastly hold on to wrong views to let go and be persuaded.
[1:13 pm, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
Psychologist with the matching religious background will even be better - that talk about life and death to dispel fear of death.
[1:27 pm, 14/04/2021] +REACH: National Wages Council to convene on April 19, will announce guidelines by end-May
The National Wages Council (NWC) will convene next Monday (April 19) to relook guidelines on wage- and employment-related issues amid the Covid-19 pandemic.
More: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/jobs/national-wages-council-to-convene-on-apr-19-will-announce-guidelines-by-end-may
[1:28 pm, 14/04/2021] +REACH: S'pore and HK 'finalising details' of air travel bubble, hope to announce plans soon: Ong Ye Kung
Details of an arrangement to restart all forms of travel between Singapore and Hong Kong without quarantine are being finalised, said Transport Minister Ong Ye Kung on Wednesday (April 14).
More: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/spore-and-hk-finalising-details-of-air-travel-bubble-hope-to-announce-plans-soon
[1:30 pm, 14/04/2021] +Caleb: 🙏
[1:49 pm, 14/04/2021] +Caleb: https://cna.asia/3dgkNwg
[1:56 pm, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心: https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3129467/china-warns-military-action-against-taiwan-block-relations-us
War may break out over Taiwan.
Wonder any plans to evacuate our armour base in Taiwan?
[2:00 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: Can we move out fast enough!.
[2:03 pm, 14/04/2021] +YT: Maybe we'll be asked to take sides. Stay and defend Taiwan. Or join China in claiming Taiwan. Tough choice.
[2:03 pm, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
I think leave the asset there.
Pull out the personnel first.
China is furious and serious enough to take action.
[2:04 pm, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
Armour base is their target.
[2:10 pm, 14/04/2021] +Dan: Nevermind abt pulling out the armour base, evacuate JJ Lin first~ 🤣
[2:13 pm, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
China.may capture Taiwan offshore islands and cut all sea lane entry points.
By the time, airplane and ships will be block - cannot evacuate already.
[2:17 pm, 14/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: We are neutral . Btw , we are not an allies to Taiwan .
[2:19 pm, 14/04/2021] +Caleb: Then we are?
[2:23 pm, 14/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: National interest comes first .
[2:24 pm, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
We don't involve in their internal affairs.
This is their family matters.
[2:25 pm, 14/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: why taiwan and china news again? 🤦🏻♂️
[2:26 pm, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
If Singaporean got slaughter in Taiwan and you feel not important then be it.
[2:27 pm, 14/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: alamak
[2:27 pm, 14/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: why you think they will attack our base there?
[2:27 pm, 14/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: you know something we don't?
[2:27 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: The YT message is saying “Maybe we'll be asked to take sides. Stay and defend Taiwan. Or join China in claiming Taiwan. Tough choice.” This not relevant to us right?
[2:28 pm, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
Taiwan largest armour base is next to ours.
[2:28 pm, 14/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: So long there is no MFA travel advisories, our citizen in TW is safe .
[2:29 pm, 14/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: pls dun fearmonger
[2:29 pm, 14/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: Don’t worry .. TW largest armour base won’t be strategic target for PLA .
[2:29 pm, 14/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: dunno what you gain by sharing china news everyday
[2:30 pm, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
Can. Until it happens you can say it again.
[2:30 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: Currently MFA did not issue travel advisors on travel to Taiwan. Only covid19 infornation
[2:30 pm, 14/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: ppl fish monger he fearmonger :3
[2:30 pm, 14/04/2021] +Kevin: True that.
[2:31 pm, 14/04/2021] +Thomas: If China attacks Taiwan ... it is a Civil war as Taiwan is part of China where we acknowledged and most of the world too.
[2:32 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: No idea, sgp is not administrate that place right?
[2:34 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: The distant between here and there is 1918 miles away by air travel
[2:36 pm, 14/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: MFA and MINDEF had already had plans . We are lesser reliance on TW as a training base .
[2:40 pm, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
I always proactive and usually plan ahead before things happen.
Most of the time, I was right.
Some people think I kiasu. So be it.
But one day if things turn out to be true - don't regret especially if lives are lost
[2:42 pm, 14/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: wah... you can take over MINDEF and MFA job liao
[2:45 pm, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
1. Tourism vouchers did it turn out well?
2. Remote job - did MoM do survey upon feedback?
3. Face mask - did MOH relent finally!
Many more.
[2:46 pm, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
When China decide to do something, they do it swift and stealth.
[2:46 pm, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
With overwhelming force.
[2:47 pm, 14/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: Hey REACH, you all can quit your jobs liao. This guy here can take over. Just give him direct access to the Ministries lmao
[2:48 pm, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
I will stop arguing with you.
If you feel unimportant - then be it
I don't have to convince you.
[2:48 pm, 14/04/2021] +XaniceAfcai: Other people who fall within the age 45 to 59 want vaccine but registered 3 wks ago but still no news.
Sigh.
[2:55 pm, 14/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: Many got their sms within a week also .
[2:57 pm, 14/04/2021] +Ben: Yes, so why are we focusing on persuading more people to take the vaccine, when we haven't addressed the need of those who are requesting it?
[2:59 pm, 14/04/2021] +Ben: Not in the eyes of other countries. The US would likely get involved as they see a role in 'defending Taiwan's democracy'
[3:00 pm, 14/04/2021] +Ben: I don't claim enough knowledge on Taiwan to understand the issue. I think SG would be in a difficult position if China attacked.
[3:00 pm, 14/04/2021] +Ben: It's most likely Taiwan is being used a political tool because China doesn't need Taiwan really. Why not just let them be?
[3:01 pm, 14/04/2021] +Ben: The US wants to get involved to 'contain' China and protect its interest in the region.
[3:02 pm, 14/04/2021] +Ben: Taiwan wants it's independence and not to be under Chinese rule, I assume. I can see why.
[3:04 pm, 14/04/2021] +Thomas: Taiwan independence is the red line. US will support selling them arms but not send troops. They also pledged one China principle which is Taiwan part of China
[3:06 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: a true test of our neutrality
[3:08 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: they are monitoring quietly and give updates in due course.
[3:08 pm, 14/04/2021] +Thomas: Taiwan current leadership wants to move to independence which China is wary. That's why they never officially declare independence but will once they have iron clad pledge from US that they will send troops to support
[3:08 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: agree
[3:09 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: definitely
[3:09 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: Physical counters for those who need help
We recommend that citizens redeem their Vouchers online, and assist family members and friends who require help with online transactions. For those who need assistance in person, physical counters are also available island-wide.
For help to set up SingPass account or reset SingPass password: Please visit go.gov.sg/singpass-guides. For added ease of convenience for residents, the People’s Association (PA) will provide SingPass registration or SingPass password reset services at 53 Community Centres/Clubs (CC). Most of these CCs will be supported by authorised booking partners’ counters located within the CCs or within a five-minute walk.
To redeem SingapoRediscovers Vouchers products[2]: Authorised booking partners…
[3:09 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: https://www.stb.gov.sg/content/stb/en/media-centre/media-releases/Fact-Sheet-Redemption-of-SingapoRediscovers-Vouchers.html
[3:11 pm, 14/04/2021] +An fan: China claims Taiwan is part of it. Isn’t it good for its Taiwan has good relationships with USA? If China attacks Taiwan, does China really think Taiwan is part of it?
[3:11 pm, 14/04/2021] +Ben: https://trevallog.com/donate-singaporediscover-voucher-srv/
[3:12 pm, 14/04/2021] +Ben: If you're not that bothered about using your voucher, please take 5 minutes to donate them and help make a difference to kids, migrant workers, struggling families.
[3:13 pm, 14/04/2021] +Thomas: Politically they are separate but China view sovereignty and territorial integrity most important. Economic secondary as they can build up again
[3:13 pm, 14/04/2021] +Ben: Good point. China can maybe see the benefit of having Taiwan as a friend. Maybe they worry about Chinese Provinces going down the independent route, just as former soviet regions did.
[3:14 pm, 14/04/2021] +Ben: If Taiwan does well, why won't others try to do the same thing?
[3:14 pm, 14/04/2021] +Thomas: Just look at HK and what happened to freedom fighters. The British cannot do anything
[3:14 pm, 14/04/2021] +Ben: By containing Taiwan, China keeps everyone else in check.
[3:14 pm, 14/04/2021] +An fan: One country, two systems. This was said about Hongkong. Now less than 30 years since 1997, See how hongkong becomes today.
[3:14 pm, 14/04/2021] +Ben: Well that's definitely true!
[3:14 pm, 14/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: US won't let anything happen to Taiwan
[3:15 pm, 14/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: otherwise any Chinese fleet will be in Guam or Hawaii in 2 hours time
[3:15 pm, 14/04/2021] +Thomas: US has too many wars and their treasury is in deep problem and debt too high. Taiwan is least of their problem
[3:15 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: Hk is part of China, what can British do after 1997?
[3:16 pm, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
When China say this, they will do it.
They don't mince words.
[3:16 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: Wah, we discussing China and Taiwan now
[3:17 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: I think the worst part is Chinese kill Chinese
[3:17 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: Haiz
[3:17 pm, 14/04/2021] +An fan: There’s a agreement then. China broke all promises.
[3:17 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: stabdby for possible mobilisation!?
[3:17 pm, 14/04/2021] +jimmy chew: Depends on what the leaders perceived. Half full or half empty. Hope all parties knows the consequences of their actions. When the 3 Giants fight there will be collateral damage
[3:17 pm, 14/04/2021] +Thomas: HK is part of China but a until a unfair treaty force on China to cede the HK to British about 100 years ago
[3:17 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: The brits ain’t saints either lah
[3:18 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: agree
[3:18 pm, 14/04/2021] +jimmy chew: Yeah. They were the occupiers
[3:18 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: They introduced democracy only after they were not able to extend the treaty
[3:18 pm, 14/04/2021] +Thomas: The British also never grant HK independence like Singapore when they are part of British Colony
[3:18 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: Before that the honkies didn’t have any say In management of the country
[3:18 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: I guess to understand the issue might need to read both English version and Mandarin version of agreement + research the facts from both english and mandarin newspaper
[3:19 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: cessation from tenancy will not lead to independence.
[3:19 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: From what I read, China said we are taking it back after 1997 and if u don’t agree we will just take it back by force
[3:19 pm, 14/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: US like proxy wars and keep their opponents in check
[3:19 pm, 14/04/2021] +Thomas: The thing is China kept the promise that the treaty grant HK to British for 100 years. They just wait for the lease to be up and also for Macua
[3:19 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: The brits didn’t felt it was worth fight a war to keep them in check
[3:19 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: Macau was easier
[3:20 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: Actually “It’s A Great strategy, get the Chinese to kill each other and provide weapons for them to do it
[3:20 pm, 14/04/2021] +jimmy chew: Maybe the situation is sword rattling and showmanship
[3:20 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: Ic, thanks for sharing.
[3:20 pm, 14/04/2021] +Thomas: Weaken China and US will be up again
[3:20 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: Don’t need to use a single use soldier or risk any of their own troops
[3:20 pm, 14/04/2021] +jimmy chew: Interesting. You never know politicians
[3:20 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: It’s the Thucydides trap again
[3:20 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: US wants to stay as the top dog
[3:21 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: And they want to make sure it stays that way
[3:21 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: US has big advantages in many areas globally . From the use of the US dollar and the use of their laws and polices to enforce sanctions on other countries
[3:21 pm, 14/04/2021] +REACH: Recommendations to improve employment and independent living for persons with disabilities in S'pore unveiled
Persons with disabilities will get more targeted help to secure and stay in employment as well as move about the island on their own.
More: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/recommendations-to-improve-employment-and-independent-living-for-persons-with-disabilities
[3:22 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: Basically they have a law where they can prosecute anyone around the world as long as the transaction is in US dollars or involves us technology in any way
[3:22 pm, 14/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: look at all the countries they do proxy wars
[3:22 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: That gives them a huge reach
[3:22 pm, 14/04/2021] +Dan: Finally, more news about the vaccinated worker who is tested positive for Covid.
[3:22 pm, 14/04/2021] +Dan: Three days ago, it was reported that a port worker, fully vaccinated since 4 March, was infected with COVID-19. I’d like to provide more information and update, and share our thoughts on the case.
The worker is a lashing specialist from India and arrived in Singapore more than a year ago.
His job is to go onboard ships to secure and unsecure containers, before the port cranes move the containers. They don protective gear (masks, gloves and helmets) and are not allowed to interact with the ship crew.
Epidemiological investigations are ongoing, but these are the key findings so far:
He is found to be carrying antibodies after vaccination.
He has no symptoms. His positive results came about from a routine testing of port workers.
156 of his close contacts were quarantined, and all of them have tested negative so far and they will be tested again before they are discharged from quarantine.
More than 1,500 other workers living in the dormitory have also tested negative for COVID-19.
This case is just one data point, but it reinforced our understanding of the virus and vaccinations.
First, it is possible for vaccinated individuals to be infected.
Second, notwithstanding; vaccines are very effective in protecting us from the more severe forms of the disease, and can significantly reduce the likelihood of the infected person to pass the virus to others.
Hence, we continue to strongly encourage everyone to take the vaccine when it is your turn, to protect yourself and others.
Ong YK
[3:22 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: Plus the size of their military isn’t for defence
Hahaha
[3:23 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: In related to this topic
“Hong Kong Chief Executive Carrie Lam had said on Tuesday (April 13) that she expects "an early indication of agreement between the two sides" on the travel bubble.
She also said that it will be mandatory for travellers from Hong Kong heading to Singapore to be vaccinated, even though this is not a requirement imposed by Singapore.”
Why HK insisted his people vaccinated before travel to Singapore? Am i miss out a bug piece of picture here?
[3:23 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: I think they are doing the right thing
[3:23 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: I think maybe our government isn’t, maybe we just want to get travellers back at all costs
[3:23 pm, 14/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: so did he get the infection from someone? or was it cos he was vaccinated that it tested positive?
[3:23 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: I dunno
[3:23 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: Economy trumps all considerations
[3:24 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: International or geogophical politic is very different
[3:24 pm, 14/04/2021] +Dan: They said its was a random routine check.
[3:25 pm, 14/04/2021] +An fan: From whom he got the virus?
[3:25 pm, 14/04/2021] +jimmy chew: Speakers say that China wants to have a Chinese renaissance but I don't understand them bullying the south china sea nations to summit too their territorial claims.
[3:26 pm, 14/04/2021] +Dan: As a frontline worker(port worker), too many possibilities.
[3:26 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: I think they want the natural gas and oil reserves underneath . Same how the us aim all the oil in the Middle East
[3:26 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: Hahaha
[3:27 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: All about power and wealth . All the spread of democracy and freedom and renaissance is bs
[3:27 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: Just a nice cover
[3:28 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: Remember there was a case of COVID being detected in wastewater near a university hostel ? I think there are cases floating around that we don’t know
[3:28 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: Wonder why Singapore doesn’t want to implement mass testing
[3:28 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: Our population and country isn’t really that high
[3:28 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: If u can mass vaccinate, testing should be easier
[3:29 pm, 14/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: cos vaccine is voluntary
[3:29 pm, 14/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: swab test is only mandatory for certain industries
[3:30 pm, 14/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: and those suspected cases when you visit the GP
[3:31 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: A few focus point:
1) where is the prior port of call before anchor @ sgp port?
2) is the person touching any part of his face with the Protecting glove wear?
What is the surface he tounch on board the ship and while off duty?
3) is hygiene protocol followed?
4) which type of covid19 variant the worker infected 2nd time?
[3:35 pm, 14/04/2021] +Dan: On today's topic, I have friends who backed out last minute at the vaccine centres after knowing they are given Moderna. It doesn't help when u start to google on Moderna, the first thing pop up in the search engine is the Moderna bump on arm. According to them, its like an additional but unnecessary ordeal when u have a choice bet pfitzer and moderna.
[3:38 pm, 14/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: Moderna is approved by MOH so the vaccine is safe.
[3:40 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: a recent study by duke-NUS shows blood clots on those who took the vaccine a month ago. 😨😱😕😟😔😞😒
[3:40 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: In USA, CDC reported on 2 April 2021 that 5 covid19 variants
1) B.1.1.7 - initial detected in the uk
2) B.1.351 - initial detected in south africa
3) P.1 - initial identified in traveller from Brazil
4) B.1.427 - first identified in California
5) B.1.429 - first identified in California
[3:40 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: MOM however is doing a long term study base om six months after.
[3:41 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: MOH
[3:41 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: So, does this change the current compensation offer!?
[3:43 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: These are all variant of concern clasdified by cdc
[3:44 pm, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
The blood clot is due to infection but recover not due to vaccine.
[3:45 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: unavoidable
[3:46 pm, 14/04/2021] +Ben: That's great..... when can our kids play football again? Currently limited to 4-a-side because of risk of Covid.... but it's ok to let people fly in and out of SG.
[3:48 pm, 14/04/2021] +Dan: I did not say its not safe, but gov should pay heed to ground sentiments. Weather too hot issit?
[3:49 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: However, this is not included the double mutant with addition spike protein E484Q on L452R (B.1.427 | B.1.429)
[3:54 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: Both Moderna and Pfizer granted the interim authorisation to use by HSA.
[4:01 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: This is another study from NTU about thr blood clot formation
https://www.ntu.edu.sg/docs/default-source/corporate-ntu/hub-news/ntu-singapore-study-investigates-link-between-long-haul-covid-and-risk-of-blood-clot-formation-41a86f18-704c-4313-ad89-d33b37da0e5a.pdf
[4:05 pm, 14/04/2021] +REACH: 1 community case among 27 new COVID-19 infections in Singapore
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-new-cases-apr-14-imported-comm
unity-dormitory-moh-14618534
[4:06 pm, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3129467/china-warns-military-action-against-taiwan-block-relations-us
China confirm the use of military action if US diplomats visit Taiwan.
[4:07 pm, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
It is not fearmonger.
It is confirmed.
[4:08 pm, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
Look like too late to evacuate already.
[4:09 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: Wah, suddenly escalate
[4:09 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: Now both sides cannot back down Liao
[4:09 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: Either one backdown will lose a lot of face
[4:09 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: are we prepared for the fall out!?
[4:09 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: We have us bases here leh
[4:10 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: Plus a lot of Chinese PRs, workers or new citizens . Will this also cause any security issues ?
[4:10 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: possibly
[4:11 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: If any conflict breaks out it is bad for us
[4:11 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: We will be forced to take a side
[4:11 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: definitely
[4:11 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: Can potentially be very polarising
[4:11 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: I know the older generation are pro China to a certain extent
[4:11 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: The younger gen are pro US
[4:11 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: luckily LHL is still our PM at the moment
[4:11 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: We need LKY!!!
[4:11 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: Anyone know what is the other mode to enter Singapore? I extracted the following from this news link:
1) Air Travel Pass
2) Reciprocal green lanes
[4:12 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: I don’t think even LHL is up to this challenge
[4:12 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: Possibly
[4:12 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: Illegal sampan? Lol
[4:12 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: Only time will tell
[4:12 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: ask Michael Vana!
[4:12 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: We will be forced to choose a side
[4:12 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: Which is bad
[4:13 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: Haiz
[4:13 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: Better save more money and buy gold
[4:13 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: bookies will have a field day!
[4:14 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: Imagine if all the rich Chinese who have been buying our properties like crazy recently all Siam
[4:14 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: 🤣🤣🤣 thanks. I m trying to add up the figure reported in newspaper.
[4:14 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: Property market will crash
[4:14 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: A lot of pple will get burned
[4:16 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: Dont understand
[4:16 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: Recently Tharman has been talking about property prices going up and overheating despite COVID
[4:17 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: Much of this is contributed due to Chinese companies and citizens investing in Singapore given that the western world is now more hostile to Chinese investment and visitors
[4:17 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: This has pushed up property prices
[4:17 pm, 14/04/2021] +An fan: Standby USA. We see manyChinese people migrate to USA or other western countries and Singapore but not USA people migrate to China. Chinese people know their government is not good.
[4:18 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: Isnt china just signed a 25 years agreement with Iran?
[4:18 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: If war breaks up, they will all be running back to China especially if we back the US
[4:18 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: The properly market will crash as they will dump their assets
[4:18 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: Many Singaporean’s who buy in at the high prices will be making huge lossses
[4:19 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: Yes , because the us embargoed Iran
[4:19 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: Sign an agreement is quite diff from conquer or instigate internal wars
[4:19 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: Very very different
[4:23 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: Mr Tharman is refering to interest rate increase that will boost the debt serving cost , impact from the USA bonds. He is right that bonds interest is increased and the usd become stronger since emd last year.
[4:26 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: This topic is too complicated for me, out of areas i study. Thanks for sharing.
[4:28 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: https://www.propertyguru.com.sg/property-management-news/2021/4/197759/senior-minister-tharman-warns-home-buyers-of-rising-rates
[4:29 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: You are right but there is speculation that cooling measures might be coming in to address the price surge
[4:34 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: You maybe notice in these few months, there are several class of assets price surge. The credit impulse of assets moved significantly.
[4:37 pm, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
$5 trillion trade sea lane could be blocked.
Logistics supply chain could be disrupted.
May need to explore alternative sea lane to skirt the Taiwan strait and south China sea.
[4:38 pm, 14/04/2021] +Ken: 😅
[4:38 pm, 14/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: Why there is believe there
[4:38 pm, 14/04/2021] +Ken: It is a issue that have to face soon or later... is just when
[4:39 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: possible cooling measures on the way
[4:39 pm, 14/04/2021] +Ken: Money coming in from Hk in fear of China control over Hk market
[4:40 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: Yankees will never flock to communist China
[4:40 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: our government has great foresight
[4:42 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: even five budgets for covid-19 cannot save us from this should common sense not prevail
[4:51 pm, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
Else why I keep raising the China and Taiwan issue - and some one say is fearmonger?
This time cargo and trade is hit.
5 budget also not enough.
[4:52 pm, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
See this war more important or local issues more important?
[4:54 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: i totally agree
[4:54 pm, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
Trade is 3 times the size of our GDP.
If trade is impacted - it will be 3 times worst than the impact cause by pandemic.
[4:56 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: The current population will have to experience what our fore fathers went through during world war two to appreciate the peace and prosperity since our independence.
[4:57 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: I think this one if happen will a big one
[4:57 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: I disagreed, the risk of direct involvemebt in China and Taiwan affair is significant and what is the value to Singapore to so? Peace and neutrality is more important
[4:58 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: Do so*
[4:58 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: Ideal solution is to remain neutral and play both sides
[4:58 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: But increasingly, it seems we will be forced to choose a side
[4:58 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: Not easy to play 2 headed snake
[4:58 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: LKY could do so but us and China weren’t so belligerent with each other at that time
[4:59 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: And he had the international stature
[4:59 pm, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
No we don't involve in their internal affairs.
We have to try to stop the war.
[4:59 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: Not easy but remained neutral as much possible and as long possible
[4:59 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: Somehow, someone will try and force us to take sides
[4:59 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: agree
[4:59 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: yes
[5:00 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: 2 big elephane is fighting , 1 elephane is using a vest to throw to another elephane. How to stop and use what to stop?
[5:00 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: Diplomacy!?
[5:00 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: We are small country also
[5:00 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: We have to thread very very carefully
[5:00 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: The future looks cloudy for sure
[5:01 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: extremely
[5:01 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: more so for the future generation
[5:01 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: We will be in big headache, see the case study on Australia..
[5:01 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: Think will affect us also bah
[5:01 pm, 14/04/2021] +Fulgrim: Assuming u all are not in the pioneer generation 😂
[5:01 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: no doubt
[5:03 pm, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
China, US send warships into disputed waters as tensions rise over Whitsun Reef
US aircraft carrier strike group entered South China Sea and a destroyer was in East China Sea, while Chinese carrier transited through Miyako Strait near Japan
It comes amid a deepening dispute between Beijing and Manila over the presence of Chinese boats at a reef in the Spratly Islands
Sarah Zheng and Kinling Lo
SCMP
Published: 10:30pm, 5 Apr, 2021
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SuperPowers can exert geopolitical influence in 3 ways - and it varies in merits and weaknesses :-
1. Military Power - by coercing and forcing smaller Countries to subject to its interests.
This is an "inferior strategy" to exert geopolitical influences - as even smaller Countries can also cause damages.
In addition, other Countries in the World will view the SuperPowers in "negative light" - and will cause problem in the Global stage - where cooperation on many global issues from others will be required.
2. Economic Might - if this is used for mutual benefits (in trade, investment, travel, business etc) - then this is consider a "superior strategy".
But if Economic Might and Financial Might - is used to coerced and force smaller Countries to subject to its interests --- this strategy will degenerated and become an "inferior strategy".
Similarly, , other Countries in the World will view the SuperPowers in "negative light" - and will cause problem in the Global stage - where cooperation on many global issues from others will be required.
3. Heart softpower - where inherently, the Leader or the collective leadership of the SuperPowers - can win over the smaller Countries due to the following reasons :-
a. Political System - that make the people they govern happy, peaceful, social harmony.
b. Economic System - that make the people prosperious and progress.
c. Social System - that make people they govern feel equal even with diverse race and religions.
This will win the respect of other smaller Countries --- because the SuperPowers also extend their "Heart softpower" to other smaller Countries - ie. Friendship, mutual benefits, power, global leadership are "earned" by its inherent "Heart softpower".
Friendship, mutual benefits, power, global leadership cannot be "coerced" by Military Power or Economic Might (by bribing, buying or coercing).
"Heart softpower" - is far more superior than Military Power and Economic Might. Because smaller Countries willingly look up to the SuperPower for global leadership - without even firing a bullet.
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[5:03 pm, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心: ----
D. Taiwan integration
1. Taiwan re-integration is not totally impossible --- even though it is the most emotional issue between China and Taiwan.
2. What makes China different from Taiwan - that make re-integration near impossible?
a. Ideological Differences - China advocate Communism, whereas Taiwan adopt Democracy.
b. Different Governance System - China adopt - Communist Party-Elected Leader versus Taiwan adopt - Universal Suffrage whereby citizens directly vote the ruling party and the President.
3. Fortunately, China has transformed from a Central-Planned Economy into a Market-Economy (hybrid of State-Owned Enterprises and Private Enterprise) --- that can integrate with the World Economic System ---- and spark China rise to become the 2nd Largest Economy in the World.
4. So apart from a common Economic system, China and Taiwan share the same ancestral root, same ancestral cultural heritage, same language, same race.
5. Now how can China extend its "Heart Softpower" to reach out to Taiwan - to break the deadlock and facilitate re-integration?
The simple answer is "Middle Path" ---- "Meeting each other half way". Both China and Taiwan must make some adjustment to make it happen.
6. The pain points to Taiwan reluctance to embrace re-integration with China are:-
a. Taiwan want Democracy - where it want Taiwan leader to be elected through Universal Suffrage by Taiwan people.
b. Taiwan want self-governance in Taiwan's economy.
7. China want Taiwan to reunify with China and be part of China.
8. So to facilitate and achieve peaceful unification, both Taiwan and China must take something and give something ----- using "Middle Path resolution" by "Meeting each other half way".
a. To soften the ground for Taiwan to observe the "1 China principle" ---- China must be willing to make the 1st move ---- by making amendment to its political system --- ie. transforming its political system from Communism to its own form of "Democratic System" with Universal Suffrage.
i. China Central Leaders - are elected by the Communist Party.
ii. Thereafter, the Party-elected Central Leaders - to be elected by people from all the Provinces. If receive 50% of the votes by aggregating all provinces, the Central Leaders become the Government and lawmakers. If under 50%, a new set of leaders will then undergo a 2nd round of Universal Suffrage to achieve at least 50% of the votes. If under 50%, the higher percentage of the votes among the 2 set of leaders will be the government.
iii. Taiwan Provincial Leader and lawmakers (either from DPP or KMT) - must be a member of Chinese Communist Party - loyal to the Party and to China (including Taiwan).
iv. Taiwan Provincial Leader and lawmakers to govern Taiwan - will be elected by the Communist Party Leadership - and then subject to Universal Suffrage by Taiwan people similar to the election of Central Leader.
9. So in order for China to re-unify Taiwan - both China and Taiwan - must make adjustment politically to be successful.
10. If the above political transform are make by China and Taiwan, there is no reason why US, the West and the World --- can accuse China of being autocratic - as China has transformed itself into a "Democratic System" - albeit its own form of Democracy - where the Chinese Communist Party will still hold the power despite the political reform.
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[5:03 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: Regional diplomacy or international displomacy? Alone or gang up? How much impact we can take and how long, is stability within nation a consideration. How to react to sanction etc are considerations
[5:03 pm, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
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E. South China Sea territorial claim
1. Internationally, the most controversial issue should be the South China Sea territorial claim.
2. Not 2nd guessing why China do a late 9 dash line claim - be it because of historical evidence, rich marine or material resource to meet domestic demand or military strategic areas to be able to deploy A2/AD (anti-access, area denial) capabilities to secure all sea lane entry points.
3. However, there is no difference from the claims - by other claimants like Vietnam, Philippines, Malaysia, Brunei and Taiwan - in addition to China's 9 dash claim in South China Sea.
4. The overlapping claims when superimposed into the South China Sea - make it very difficult to resolve ---- as 2 or more Countries are staging claims on the same areas in different parts of South China Sea.
5. To break the deadlock of the overlapping claims - and ensure every claimants gain something from the claims without being left out and resolve the South China Sea peacefully, "Middle Path resolution" or "Meeting each other half way" --- can be used :-
i. Examine the interpretation of the UNCLOS (United Nation Convention of the Law of the Sea) ---- that will be able to satisfy and meet all the claimants claim "half way" --- the "Middle Ground" approach :-
a. 12 nautical mile (22 km) - Territorial Water from the coast line.
b. Another 12 nautical mile (22 km) - Contiguous Zone from Territorial Water.
c. 200 nautical mile (370 km) - Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) from Contiguous Zone.
Total 414 km
a. and b. (24 nautical miles / 44 km) - which are the Territorial Water and Contiguous Zone --- should be reserve for Countries with coastal lines.
c. the EEZ with 200 nautical mile / 370 km ---- will be the areas where "Middle Ground or Meeting half way" ---- dispute resolution approach ---- can be made.
If 2 Countries have disputed claims that fall onto the EEZ - divide into half to be shared by the 2 Countries - each one get 100 nautical mile / 185 km.
If 3 Countries have disputed claims that fall onto the EEZ - divide into 3 to be shared by the 3 Countries - each one get 66.6666666.....7 nautical mile / 123.3333333 km.
6. As the distance between Vietnam to Philippines is about 1,564.67 km - taking into account the total 414 km of claimants claim - a total remainder of 1,132.67 km become (International water - outside Territorial Water) --- and is reserved for International sea of passage.
7. South China Sea problem solved ! ------ no more "hard feelings" among all claimants on South-China Sea --- and peace is restored. Prosperity and Economy can then thrive in Asia Pacific.....
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[5:04 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: You sure international politic is not priorties own national interest?
[5:05 pm, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
Oh some one even called it shitto to even mention it.
[5:09 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: i believe asean will be stretched thin on this!
[5:11 pm, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
Look like we are too late to salvage the whole situation.
Ya we are really in shithole.
[5:11 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: Realistic and national interest might be the core influence in international politics
[5:12 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: most probably
[5:12 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: Not sure will it break when put on test to select side
[5:12 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: Salvage which situation?
[5:13 pm, 14/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
Stop the war.
[5:13 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: There is no war right?
[5:13 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: prevent it!
[5:14 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: not yet but china did verbally say war is i editable should biden send his emissary to Taiwan!
[5:16 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: Ic, the potential conflict between china and taiwan. Is it on condition that taiwan getting close to washington then the probability of china use military action increased?
[5:18 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: mailand has been giving warning over the years each time America test their resolve with military upgrades acquisitions for taiwan.
[5:20 pm, 14/04/2021] +REACH: Vaccinated worker infected with COVID-19: More than 1,500 in same dorm test negative
More than 1,500 workers living in the same dormitory as a vaccinated migrant worker who was infected with COVID-19 have tested negative for the virus, said Minister for Transport Ong Ye Kung on Wednesday (Apr 14).
More: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/vaccinated-migrant-worker-dormitory-covid-19-positive-14619984
[5:20 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: Ya, each time USA uograde the communication channel with Taiwan or when Taiwan buy weapons from USA
[5:21 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: There was an incident some twenty years ago when an American naval carrier battle group pushed back a mainland naval task force trying to test Taiwan military readiness. China had no aircraft carrier then and was humiliated into backing off. Not,any more!
[5:27 pm, 14/04/2021] +REACH: Dear contributors,
we would like to hear more from you on today's topic. We have had good feedback from this group, and we hope that we can keep the discussion robust and active!
Megan😊
[5:28 pm, 14/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: Unfortunately derail to China VS Taiwan topic liao and our rail engineer left this chat group
[5:29 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: oh!
[5:30 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: This topic is the same as previously posted?
[5:31 pm, 14/04/2021] +REACH: MOE to revise vocational curriculum at special ed schools to better build soft skills for work
After months of training at the Autism Resource Centre's Employability and Employment Centre (E2C), Mr Elliot Goh secured a job as a digital services assistant with the National Library Board last month.
More: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/moe-to-revise-vocational-curriculum-at-special-ed-schools-to-better-build-soft-skills-for
[5:32 pm, 14/04/2021] +Ben: Which topic in particular?
[5:32 pm, 14/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: This is a positive development
[5:33 pm, 14/04/2021] +REACH: Dear contributors,
We would like to hear more from you on today's topic. We have had good feedback from this group, and we hope that we can keep the discussion robust and active!
Megan😊
[5:36 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: I think not only school and goverment to help. Business and trade association or NGO also need to step in to provide them the opportunity , otherwise training maybe wasted
[5:37 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: Chosen vaccine does not necessarily make one better than the other. Each is unique and can have its own success rate and side effects. Remember, vaccine created was rush for approval world wide so unknown previous side effects wm have to be dealt with along the way.
[5:37 pm, 14/04/2021] +Valli: I believe MOE should look into revising all school curriculum & subjects.
[5:38 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: Towards inclusive society where all can contribute economically and be independent as much as possible. Self worth will grow.
[5:40 pm, 14/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: I’m glad MOH finally allow us to choose vaccine. Seems like feedback was duly taken in by the ministry. 👏🏻
Still gonna harp on ERP acronym. Encourage, Reward, Promote.
My 2.14 cents
[5:40 pm, 14/04/2021] +Valli: Coding, robotics, digital skills can be implemented as subjects instead of as extra classes or CCA.
[5:41 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: Yes, i guess majority of student from these school will treasure if appropriate r opportunity is given to them. They might need extra care to develop their own confident in working place graduatly. Using normal standard to benchmark them in workplace will not roll the ball to anywhere.
[5:43 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: society in general must accommodate and appreciate
[5:45 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: Just to share that CDC USA provide details information on their website to enable usa citizens to do informed decision when they are choosing a vaccine.
[5:45 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: i believe our government is doing the same
[5:46 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: When profit is priotised, HR treatment might be different
[5:46 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: Good to know, thanks
[5:47 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: We must change from a spoon fed society expecting from a spoon fed government
[5:51 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: This involved cultural change, it will take long time to acomplish, perhaps some guildline/actions from industry partners can be implement to meet the objective for interim
[5:51 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: all stake holders must speak their minds sincerely
[5:51 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: A bottom up approach from business/entity/association
[5:52 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: A massive national dialogue, possibly Singapore conversation style!
[5:52 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: Yes, An arbitrage decision
[5:53 pm, 14/04/2021] +SL: start from the trade association, professional association, NGO, religious ?
[5:54 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: food for thought
[6:37 pm, 14/04/2021] +REACH: MOM warns of phishing scam seeking contact details from recipients
A fake e-mail purportedly from the Ministry of Manpower's (MOM) Assurance, Care and Engagement group, which sought contact details from recipients for a vaccination exercise, has been circulating online, the ministry said.
More: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/mom-warns-of-phishing-scam-seeking-contact-details-from-recipients
[6:39 pm, 14/04/2021] +REACH: MOH appoints 12-member committee to address health insurance issues
A 12-member committee has been appointed by the Ministry of Health (MOH) to address issues related to health insurance.
More: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/moh-appoints-12-member-committee-to-address-health-insurance-issues
[6:45 pm, 14/04/2021] +REACH: Dear Contributors,
⏰ We will be closing the chat in 15 minutes ⏰
Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Goodnight!
Megan
[6:46 pm, 14/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: Gdnite Megan
[6:46 pm, 14/04/2021] +Rama: Good move!
[6:47 pm, 14/04/2021] +Ben: This is good and I hope they expand it to a national study of how to modernise our schooling.
[7:00 pm, 14/04/2021] +REACH: Dear Contributors,
We will be closing the chat for today.
Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Goodnight!
Megan
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