REACH 214 - Views on Leadership transition (SK)
09 Apr 2021 (11am - 7pm)
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[10:01
am, 09/04/2021] +REACH: �� Topic ��
Deputy
Prime Minister Heng Swee Keat has decided to step aside as a 4G leader, and
pave the way for a younger person with a longer runway to lead the country when
Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong retires. Mr Heng, who turns 60 this year, cited
the long-term and profound challenges of the Covid-19 pandemic, his age, and
the demands of the top job, as reasons for his decision.
�� A
Cabinet reshuffle will be announced in about two weeks' time. What are your views
about Singapore's leadership transition?
The 4G
leadership also issued a statement saying it respected and accepted Mr Heng's
decision, and asked for more time to select another leader from the team. The
statement added that it sought Singaporeans'
support and understanding during this time and that the leadership will
working as a team to serve our people, and to earn the confidence and trust of
all Singaporeans.
Mr Heng
will stay on in Cabinet as DPM and Coordinating Minister for Economic Policies.
As had been earlier planned between the two men, he will relinquish his finance
portfolio when a Cabinet reshuffle takes place in about two weeks' time.
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[10:06
am, 09/04/2021] +Ben: I think he has made the right choice and took a very
professional decision.
[10:07
am, 09/04/2021] +Ben: Really pleased to see someone put the country's interest
ahead of their ego and career.
[10:07
am, 09/04/2021] +Ben: SG needs to engage with a modern generation, while
protecting its core values.
[10:08
am, 09/04/2021] +Ben: The problem is that we only have a few years to instill a
new leader, assuming our current PM retires before the next GE.
[10:12
am, 09/04/2021] +Caleb: Great. Mr Heng can't really represent Singapore. As a
figure head
[10:15
am, 09/04/2021] +Elena Woo: Yes, a younger leader will be better. Hope it will
be either Min. LW or Min. CCS.
[10:16
am, 09/04/2021] +Ben: Yes, the world stage is very important these days. I do
hope we don't choose a 'celebrity' leader though. I prefer professional, calm
and objective leadership, rather than sensational and attention grabbing :)
[10:17
am, 09/04/2021] +Ben: Agreed. And this isn't a criticism of age, which I value
as advisors and influencers. Leaders need to represent and people need to feel
connected. Someone in their mid late 60s isn't really that.
[10:17
am, 09/04/2021] +Dong Liang: Ong YK likely to be the one.
[10:18
am, 09/04/2021] +Shane: I feel LW would be my preferred choice based on his
result from covid management
[10:18
am, 09/04/2021] +Elena Woo: ��������
[10:19
am, 09/04/2021] +Elena Woo: Personally interacted with him before... no in my
top list...
[10:19
am, 09/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: I agree with this although some might say he’s
relatively young
[10:19
am, 09/04/2021] +Elena Woo: Either LW or CCS are in my list.
[10:19
am, 09/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: The succession is critical for Singapore
domestically and internationally . The
future PM has to have strong Finance , Foreign Affairs , Trade and Defence
knowledge to manage Singapore .
[10:20
am, 09/04/2021] +Shane: he has manage a few area pretty well and at least in
term of working with gov for a couple of good years while the rest are
relatively new..
[10:20
am, 09/04/2021] +Ben: Yes, and the ability to pick a good team to support him or
her.
[10:20
am, 09/04/2021] +Elena Woo: think CCS had worked longer than him, but both have
their good flairs.
[10:21
am, 09/04/2021] +Ben: I do think domestic agenda is also important to keep SG
relevant and thriving. LKY understood how to put SG at the forefront and to
plan for the future internationally.
[10:22
am, 09/04/2021] +Elena Woo: Domestic agenda must really improve.
[10:22
am, 09/04/2021] +Ben: We don't need to try and lead the world, but we do need
to be integrated and dependable and inspirational
[10:22
am, 09/04/2021] +Elena Woo: It is progressing, but not enough.
[10:23
am, 09/04/2021] +Ben: Yes, and listening to each other is key to understanding
that
[10:24
am, 09/04/2021] +Ben: Not populist policy making but understanding and address
real needs.
[10:25
am, 09/04/2021] +Elena Woo: Yes, that is why I feel either CCS or LW are
better. They do consider some real needs even though they have to look at big
pic first.
[10:25
am, 09/04/2021] +Jamie Bethany Koh: +1
[10:25
am, 09/04/2021] +Jamie Bethany Koh: OYK also not bad
[10:26
am, 09/04/2021] +Ben: This is a good opportunity to define the needs and goals
of SG, through a listening exercise, to help choose the right person to lead.
[10:26
am, 09/04/2021] +Ben: That's how to win public support
[10:26
am, 09/04/2021] +Elena Woo: He looks at big pic only and will wayang or shake
off the real needs. Like I said, he is no in my list.
[10:27
am, 09/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: Post Covid is big I know world ; CCS and LW has
their own strength ; OYK is relatively
inexperienced compared to them but he seemed to more charismatic. Desmond is a quieter builder . 4 is needed for our future success. We need
to be United to have the succession completed .
[10:27
am, 09/04/2021] +Dong Liang: LW lacks the iron somehow. Whoever governs
Singapore must have the iron in him, or give it up.
[10:27
am, 09/04/2021] +Elena Woo: His prioritisation end up will shove away the real
needs being brought up.
[10:27
am, 09/04/2021] +Ben: Make this an exercise in engaging the public and be
involved in the process?
[10:28
am, 09/04/2021] +Ben: Balance personality with leadership skills,
communication, clarity and motivation for a nation.
[10:28
am, 09/04/2021] +Elena Woo: We need one that can solidify the grounds and plan
and execute, charismatic is not enough.
[10:29
am, 09/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: There are ongoing exercises and conversations
organised by Reach and other Organization on the SG vision .. pls participate
in them if you aren’t .
[10:30
am, 09/04/2021] +Elena Woo: CCS has a better iron hand and he is good in making
solid grounds. Just that sometimes he has certain ideals that can shock people
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[10:33
am, 09/04/2021] +Dong Liang: CCS seems not so popular amongst the 4G team. The
leader has to be chosen by the 4G team.
[10:34 am,
09/04/2021] +Elena Woo: So far the ones that I see the works they do are Min.
CCS and OYK before. LW is becoz of the covid crisis management that he fronted.
Desmond - no comments as never see his works before. Out of all of them, I
think best are either CCS or LW.
[10:34
am, 09/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: Yes . He is least popular.
[10:35
am, 09/04/2021] +Valli: I also feel the same.
Mr
Lawrence Wong is calm , good speaker & clear concise in his speech.
[10:35
am, 09/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: That’s the vibes he give us which is good
[10:35
am, 09/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: Question is who will the 4G cohort elect as leader
[10:36
am, 09/04/2021] +Elena Woo: Why never allow people to vote?
[10:38
am, 09/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: You vote them during GE
[10:39
am, 09/04/2021] +Wilson Leong: Only 83 MPs among themselves decide who they
want to be their leader
[10:47
am, 09/04/2021] +Jamie Bethany Koh: Not sure I didn’t meet any one of them..
just based on perspective
[10:47
am, 09/04/2021] +Jerick Tan: Hasn't it already been decided? Based on pap
tradition, it's CCS cos he's the 1st asst party secretary
[10:47
am, 09/04/2021] +Jerick Tan: And he's deputy leader of 4G, so is poised to take
over HSK
[10:48
am, 09/04/2021] +Ben: Good to know, I'll look out for it
[10:50
am, 09/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: It’s meaningful .. recently I attended one
chaired by CCS on chartering our future vision and there were open discussion
on new goals for SG . Look out for them .
[10:50
am, 09/04/2021] +Jamie Bethany Koh: If based on tradition yah
[10:53
am, 09/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: Tradition can’t apply today since skillset of
leaders are required to address
different national needs . Thur global
history ,traditional methods may drive
country to failure .
[10:54
am, 09/04/2021] +Jerick Tan: CCS also has the most support among PAP's 3000
party members right now
[10:54
am, 09/04/2021] +Rama: My take us on OYK. LW/DL doesn't have much international
exposure.
[10:58
am, 09/04/2021] +CQ: personally i like Lawrence Wong. i feel that he's done
well with the Covid handling, calm but not too chill (still conveys a sense of
urgency when needed), confident but not overbearing, articulate yet uses simple
language that people can understand... i feel that he'll be a good leader for
the party and the people. of course, my top pick is still Tharman, but people
not ready for non-chinese pm....
[11:00
am, 09/04/2021] +Jamie Bethany Koh: You part of the YP arh? Lol how you see the
vote?
[11:00
am, 09/04/2021] +Desmond Koh: That’s not a fair comments though haha
CCS did
nothing great but lame stuffs being thrown here n there...
below are
they holding full min positions (ignored 2nd min)
Desmond
Lee -44, - MSF(3+yrs), MND (Current)
Lawrence
wong - 48, MCCY(1+yrs), MND(5yrs), MOE(Current)
Ong Ye
Kung - 51, - MOE(5yrs), MOT(Current)
Chan Chun
Sing - 51 - MSF(2+yrs), NTUC Sec Gen(3+yrs), MTI (Current)
[11:02
am, 09/04/2021] +Desmond Koh: MSF under Desmond did a lot of ground work on
support the unemployed n needy people... this type not shown in the media as
much as the trade n education...
[11:02
am, 09/04/2021] +Elena Woo: I lived in tanjong pagar for over 20 yrs under CCS,
he did a good job there. I lived in Gambas when it was under OYK and spoke to
him on issues. When the issues had no response and progress after 1 mth, I
approached Prof Faizal instead and yes there is some progress and response
after 1 wk.
[11:03
am, 09/04/2021] +Elena Woo: That is why I said I saw the works of both
ministers.
[11:03
am, 09/04/2021] +Dong Liang: LW did well in Covid was because he was sitting
next to Min Gan, whom happened not to be so articulate. So in comparison LW did
well.
[11:03
am, 09/04/2021] +Elena Woo: Ya so i cannot say Desmond good or bad coz I did
not see his works nor interact with him at all, hence no comments.
[11:04
am, 09/04/2021] +Desmond Koh: CCS only came in 2011... where is this 20yrs
under CCS? Haha
U must
also see when u approached CCS, does he hold and position?
OYK only
came in at 2015... there’s a difference
[11:05
am, 09/04/2021] +Jerick Tan: Haha no, but the two biggest camps are the CCS and
HSK camp. Now with HSK out of the running..
[11:05
am, 09/04/2021] +Desmond Koh: Just saying factually, MP work n minister work is
two different thing... cannot combine de
[11:05
am, 09/04/2021] +Jamie Bethany Koh: I see..
[11:06
am, 09/04/2021] +Jamie Bethany Koh: Public really don’t matter... important is
the PAP group internally support then will able to be PM
[11:06
am, 09/04/2021] +Elena Woo: He was alr active when he was not yet MP there. I
dun deny OYK did good in MOE side but like i said he takes in big pic and
brushes real issues aside. Whereas CCS does take in big pic but he also
considered real issues.
[11:06
am, 09/04/2021] +CQ: then we have to train our arm muscles to kee chiu more
often? :P
[11:06
am, 09/04/2021] +Jerick Tan: ✋��
[11:06 am,
09/04/2021] +Elena Woo: Ya but from there u can see how they perceive things.
[11:06 am,
09/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: yes likely so
[11:06 am,
09/04/2021] +Elena Woo: Lol
[11:07 am,
09/04/2021] +CQ: if cannot kee chiu, very xiasuay ��
[11:07 am,
09/04/2021] +Desmond Koh: Haha ok that’s fair!
But I must
say, in army or in public services, he is not charismatic enough to gather
supper!
[11:07 am,
09/04/2021] +Elena Woo: OYK probably has global and
[11:07 am,
09/04/2021] +Desmond Koh: *Support
[11:08 am,
09/04/2021] +Desmond Koh: The face does not give people a lasting impression
[11:09 am,
09/04/2021] +CQ: i'm ok with CCS, but it's these little soundbite nuggets that
stay on forever and these little faux pas might get magnified once he goes on
international stage...
[11:14 am,
09/04/2021] +Elena Woo: ������
[11:14 am,
09/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: CCS. He has a different skillset since he is
critically a problem solver and he is a proven to be quick to connect dots
(strategic thinking ) . I won’t comment on his weakness .
On the
ground .. he is super engaged but I guess the rest are too .
[11:15 am,
09/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: Haha .. that’s him . Authentic
[11:15 am,
09/04/2021] +Elena Woo: Ya he is a very grounds on person... but he is very
blunt...��
[11:15 am,
09/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: The vibe I get from him is that he thinks he's smart by
sprouting all these things which is known secret and some are very logical
stuff. But in actual fact, a true strategist doesn't say much and do more in
the background.
[11:16 am,
09/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: My 2.14 cents
[11:17 am,
09/04/2021] +Elena Woo: He is more of grounds on person not really strategist.
I think post pandemic world needs 1 who get things done more important rather
than flair of talking.
[11:18 am,
09/04/2021] +Elena Woo: If talk talk talk, nothing gets done, i think worse.
[11:20 am,
09/04/2021] +Desmond Koh: Most are quite on the ground la... but if u r a PM, u
need to be a all rounder, leadership, rapport n charismatic does make a
difference...
But if you
think about rapport for public services for Apple to Apple
CCS vs Teo
Chee Hean(TCH) the charismatic does a lot in uniting the public services..
My
1.234cts ��
[11:20 am,
09/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: LW is a more refined in comms but he needs to be
polished further in other areas .
[11:22 am,
09/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: Agree with you .
[11:23 am,
09/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: To add .. I find DL is good in this area . However he is Low profile
[11:23 am,
09/04/2021] +Desmond Koh: CCS
[11:23 am,
09/04/2021] +Desmond Koh: OYK
[11:23 am,
09/04/2021] +Desmond Koh: LW
[11:23 am,
09/04/2021] +Desmond Koh: Desmond
[11:23 am,
09/04/2021] +Desmond Koh: Heng
[11:23 am,
09/04/2021] +Desmond Koh: TCJ
[11:24 am,
09/04/2021] +Jamie Bethany Koh: Lol speaker Liao very hard to come back bah
[11:24 am,
09/04/2021] +Desmond Koh: If using IG as the measurement of ground work ��
Even DL
have more followers (16.9k) than CSS (14.6k)
[11:25 am,
09/04/2021] +Desmond Koh: CCS was sec gen of NTUC, also came back...
[11:25 am,
09/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: TCJ goes different path ; a very good one for fulfilment
[11:25 am,
09/04/2021] +CQ: i hope be becomes prez!!
[11:27 am,
09/04/2021] +Valli: I am in awe of all our PMs.
Singapore
has been very fortunate.
Mr Tharman
would have been the next best choice.
But as Mr
Heng mention post Covid , we need a younger PM to lead
[11:28 am,
09/04/2021] +Jamie Bethany Koh: Possible lol
[11:29 am,
09/04/2021] +Timothy Low: Mothership polls
[11:29 am,
09/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: I first met CCS in a sports related meeting in 2012 .
he is super off-orbit with People
. I am impressed with DL when I
did some community projects with him in Jurong . Basically Very different experience between 2 .
However
when comes to data analysis and data point for decisons , CCS provide better
. DL or LW not so convincing .
[11:30 am,
09/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: Mr Tharman rejected the post . He shared the view
several times over TV and formal public meetings
[11:32 am,
09/04/2021] +CQ: from all accounts, DL seems to be great with the people, but i
don't think he's prominent enough and he doesn't seem to have enough accolades
under his belt to show for it. so less convincing as a leader from an optics
perspective. CCS has a high profile, but people remember him more about his
little quips and he's become meme-able. TCJ has gone on a different track
already. OYK has gained some international visual lately with the green lanes
and travel bubbles.
[11:32 am,
09/04/2021] +Bobby Tan: CCS is very humble and helpful. Last time during vesak
day donation presentation, my staff got nervous and CCS on stage helped him to
sort out the big cheques.
[11:34 am,
09/04/2021] +CQ: i think safe to say that the top picks for the next leader got
no bad guys lah...
[11:34 am,
09/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: Agree with you on the people aspect . I meant the way
that he runs the meeting and engaging People .. CCS is very different and it can be controversial. Thus got this some like him while some hate
him issue arise .
[11:35 am,
09/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: +1.. we are blessed for now . These are very capable
people
[11:36 am,
09/04/2021] +Thomas: Guess there is no one persons are perfect. Being a leader
do not need to be popular but able to convince and lead. LKY wasn't popular in
early years but he is a strong leader. Takes unpopular actions at that time but
turn out good on long term like the CPF scheme. It is the iron and take a long
strategic view to lead and to convince majority of the populace. I always enjoy
LKW national day speech as it is always engaging and convincing.
[11:39 am,
09/04/2021] +Stella Yip: Grapevine: CCS has a reputation of excellent execution
when tasked with a specific job, so we still love and need him despite the
“cotton” issue, and leaked recording.
LW has the composure and mannerism of a strong leader, the older
generation loves his aura and intelligence.
OYK is much appreciated by younger parents for his direction while he
was in MOE (respects & maintains traditional values, while keeping up with
the trends). OYK is much appreciated by the cycling community, not just for the
things he has done, but also because he is viewed as one of them. OYK has also
shown much support for community gardening which offers direct benefit to low
income families.
[11:40 am,
09/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: The other side of LW . My jaw dropped many years back
..
[11:41 am,
09/04/2021] +Ben: ��
[11:41 am,
09/04/2021] +Jamie Bethany Koh: Ok lar.. lol a lot of minister have other side
lol
[11:42 am,
09/04/2021] +Jamie Bethany Koh: If you work as volunteers some actually quite
nice
[11:42 am,
09/04/2021] +Jamie Bethany Koh: Some” lol
[11:42 am,
09/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: Public performance . Not many got the balls to do
this in public
[11:42 am,
09/04/2021] +Elena Woo: Ya true, just only have a preference of choices if
possible... ��
[11:43 am,
09/04/2021] +Jamie Bethany Koh: Lol some even sing at dinners... oh well that’s
good to bring up the atmosphere
[11:43 am,
09/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: Feedback from friends: Who’s head going to roll for the
$370 erroneous payout?
[11:44 am,
09/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: $370 million
[11:45 am,
09/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: Most ppl don’t hate him. I just wish he talk less and
do more that’s all.
[11:45 am,
09/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: Haha .. I am actually biased when come to musical
performance . Some made numbers while
some is seriously good at them .
[11:45 am,
09/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: Haha .. he talks very little already if you noticed .
[11:46 am,
09/04/2021] +Jamie Bethany Koh: Don’t really care more for they are sporting to
me is a plus point Liao
[11:47 am,
09/04/2021] +Jamie Bethany Koh: Minister are super busy and overworked. It
takes the extra step to be sporting and if they do well means they practice as
well
[11:47 am,
09/04/2021] +Elena Woo: Ya he is not a frequent talker.
[11:48 am,
09/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: No money loss .
Head roll? Hope we stop this
Spanish culture . Look at the mess that such culture caused to South and Latin American and southern Europe .
With
such culture, people are not interested
to prevent problems because the one made mistakes is not expected to clean up
the mess. Peole talked , tried and
leaving the problem to the next person .
[11:49 am,
09/04/2021] +Elena Woo: Agreed. It is more abt impt to rectify than just point
and shoot the person.
[11:49 am,
09/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: Perhaps I see minister as a human .. a holistic one.
[11:50 am,
09/04/2021] +Elena Woo: No one is perfect and humans make mistakes.
[11:50 am,
09/04/2021] +CQ: actually ah, with the bombshell about HSK's stepping aside
yesterday, this piece of news got totally buried in my newsfeed. i didn't know
about this until one of my friends mentioned this. the timing a bit the
coincidence hor....?
[11:50 am,
09/04/2021] +Elena Woo: ��������������
[11:50 am,
09/04/2021] +Jamie Bethany Koh: Lol you didn’t read reach yesterday
[11:51 am,
09/04/2021] +CQ: i was unreachable yesterday ��
[11:51 am,
09/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: Not me bro my friends
[11:51 am,
09/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: Exactly opposite for me . Even international news
feed is also reporting the same for Singapore . Clubhouse and other chats are
all about this one .
[11:51 am,
09/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: I think it’s ok as long as rectify it
[11:52 am,
09/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: Understand . I meant you can provide the narrative
that we aren’t a society that see things that short term . Otherwise we would
not focusing so much about future and our next generation
[11:53 am,
09/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: https://youtu.be/YRIif11vPlY
[11:54 am,
09/04/2021] +Elena Woo: But some see things very short term... otherwise won't
have funny complainers.
[11:54 am,
09/04/2021] +Neeyor: But there should be consequences. Singapore Inc. runs
itself as a corporation. So imagine if a CFO were too bungle up $370 million.
It just means you are not good at your job and someone else should get the
chance to do it
[11:54 am,
09/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: I know them and they’re joking actually but it’s more
like “don’t try to cover up with this leadership issue at hand”
[11:55 am,
09/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: If he does speak, speak with short and concise manner
[11:56 am,
09/04/2021] +Elena Woo: If only the younger leaders have another LKY...
[11:56 am,
09/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: This item actually got quite a ‘big’ concerns in SM
via analytics . Let’s why I don’t see
as a joke tbh.
[11:56 am,
09/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: Not go into those oblivious rhetoric speeches to show
how “deep” the strategy is etc
[11:56 am,
09/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: This is really my 2.14 cents
[11:56 am,
09/04/2021] +Jamie Bethany Koh: One in a hundred years bah..
[11:56 am,
09/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: As I see it , the LKY of yesterday style can’t
survive today ..
[11:57 am,
09/04/2021] +Jamie Bethany Koh: Not even possible to be in the same country
[11:57 am,
09/04/2021] +Elena Woo: The LKY of tomorrow can survive today...
[11:57 am,
09/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: A wise man doesn’t need to explain why he manage such
important decision for any big issue, the results will show for itself
[11:57 am,
09/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: My 2.14 cents
[11:58 am,
09/04/2021] +Elena Woo: Iron hand when necessary, grounds on, charismatic, see
big pic yet tackle real issues on the ground.
[11:58 am,
09/04/2021] +Elena Woo: Can we just combine LW and CCS? ������
[11:58 am,
09/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: LKY ��
[11:58 am,
09/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: Yes this
[11:58 am,
09/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: Lol
[11:58 am,
09/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: That’s why it took many to understand what LKY done
then was right . Unfortunately ..
decades later
[11:59 am,
09/04/2021] +Elena Woo: Got CCS grounds on and Iron Hand + LW charismatic and
eloquence.
[11:59 am,
09/04/2021] +Elena Woo: Both alr see big pic + tackle real issues.
[11:59 am,
09/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: @Desmond Koh AI and Machine Learning please .
[0:00 pm,
09/04/2021] +CQ: LW + CCS = TCJ? :P
[0:00 pm,
09/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: Nah most ppl know the impact during their generation.
Majority actually support his policies and regulations.
[0:00 pm,
09/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: Only small but loud number will always go against no
matter how good you are
[0:00 pm,
09/04/2021] +Elena Woo: ����������
[0:01 pm,
09/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: Many support because of employment / stability ..
actually many don’t understand LKY rationale / decision until early 2000s.
[0:02 pm,
09/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: We don’t need to understand. The results will show for
itself.
[0:02 pm,
09/04/2021] +Desmond Koh: Haha, this my classmates thesis
https://eprints.qut.edu.au/53199/
Towards
spontaneous facial expression recognition in real-world video
[0:02 pm,
09/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: That’s the virtue of great leadership
[0:03 pm,
09/04/2021] +Jamie Bethany Koh: LKY made lots of decisions... we can’t also
forget that he has a very strong team that he recruited over the years
[0:03 pm,
09/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: How about logic and NLP?
[0:04 pm,
09/04/2021] +Desmond Koh: https://eprints.qut.edu.au/74150/3/74150.pdf
Last time
we scan the Aussie POH’s facial for emotional sensing ��
[0:06 pm,
09/04/2021] +Desmond Koh: Hard to say
[0:06 pm,
09/04/2021] +Desmond Koh: But can use this to measure
Emotional
valence describes the extent to which an emotion is positive or negative,
whereas arousal refers to its intensity, i.e., the strength of the associated
emotional state
[0:08 pm,
09/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: That is the winning formula in corporate and country
.
[0:09 pm,
09/04/2021] +Stella Yip:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10160102038748797&id=726008796
[0:09 pm,
09/04/2021] +Leonard Lau: Haha we can clone 4 into 1
[0:13 pm,
09/04/2021] +Eunice Chia: OYK was also our dy chief negotiator for the US FTA
https://www.pmo.gov.sg/cabinet/mr-ong-ye-kung
[0:17 pm,
09/04/2021] +Rama: agree
[0:19 pm,
09/04/2021] +Rama: let Tharman be interim PM
[1:10 pm,
09/04/2021] +Caleb: ��
[1:13 pm,
09/04/2021] +Ben: It's likely the responsibility of a team of people. Another example of why we need thinkers and
not just followers!
[1:14 pm,
09/04/2021] +Ben: Fair point. High pay and rewards are compensation for
accepting the responsibility.
[1:16 pm,
09/04/2021] +Ben: Yes, the team is crticial, in some ways the most important.
Surround yourself with people smarter than you, in their fields of expertise.
[1:16 pm,
09/04/2021] +Ben: Interesting idea
[1:16 pm,
09/04/2021] +Dong Liang: My friend in China says his post as the CEO has no
term limit. He can be there as long as he can.
[1:19 pm,
09/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: Very hard cos the type of leaders will attract the type
of followers etc
[1:20 pm,
09/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: Our founding fathers are the hardy pioneers
[1:20 pm,
09/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: Now all leading sheltered life
[1:20 pm,
09/04/2021] +Ben: I hope the leader recruits intelligently not just 'yes'
people
[1:21 pm,
09/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: That’s my fear actually
[1:21 pm,
09/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: We should recruit passionate people who want to serve
and improve the nation
[1:22 pm,
09/04/2021] +Ben: Yes, and also capable and imaginative!
[2:14 pm,
09/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
1. It is shocking and unsettling when the news break - that
the Leadership succession will be disrupted.
2. Reasons being :-
a. Singapore success very largely depends on Singapore
Government with strong and capable Leadership that brought us to what we are
now.
b. Singapore being a small Nation - where every facets of
Singapore lives, business and Economy - are the outcome of Government-led
macro-management.
c. Hence the Leadership succession - is extremely crucial to
Singapore - because our future and our descendant future will be contingent on
continuing Good Government to ensure we are successful.
3. Selection of a future PM and his team - that can produce
synergistic outcome become extremely important - in the Government.
4. Once a PM emerged, everyone must come to the sense to
rally and unite around the one final elected PM.
5. Next the most difficult part, is for the new PM to rally
his team - to convince the citizens and electorate - to vote him and his team
to lead Singapore into the future.
[2:18 pm, 09/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
6. A divided and polarised electorate - is no good for
Singapore.
Hence the ability of the new PM to win the support from his
Cabinet colleagues and the electorate - will be crucial for Singapore and
Singaporean - for which everyone stakes depends upon.
[2:32 pm, 09/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
Selection process :-
1. Public perception of the candidates - are often not
all-rounded.
We only get a glipmse of the Minister in public --- and
quickly we form a perception about him - good or bad ---- and we jump to the
conclusion that he can be a "good" or "not so good" PM.
This is rather dangerous way to elect a PM - as we fail to
see his overall strength that come with people who actually work closely with
the candidates.
Hence, I don't like the idea of putting candidates to the
vote by the public straight away.
Remember one oversea President who excel in playing on stage
to his voters got elected - that mess up everything and later stage a riot
storming the Parliament.
Hence, public vote can be a faulty election process to choose
a PM.
2. PM selected by his Cabinet colleagues, senior civil
servants and Party senior cadres --- who work closely with him - know his
capabilities, able to rally his colleagues and whip up his team - into a high
performing team, hence a high performing Cabinet, Government, Civil Service and
Public Service ---- will be the right approach in electing the next PM.
3. Thereafter, the PM and his team will be put forward to the
electorate to win the support of the people ---- will be a sounder approach.
(You select the cream of the crop - and then put forward to
the people to votes ---- you will sure you got the best quality candidate).
Else you may accidentally get someone that clown around - a
live overseas example demonstrate this risk.
[2:38 pm, 09/04/2021] +Ben: I agree with the points. In order
to help the MPs make a good choice, it is helpful for the public to have some
engagement and feel included, rather than shut out.
[2:41 pm, 09/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
1. Ideally, the candidates will be exposed to formulating the
finance budget - where he oversee the full spectrum of all the Ministries, Stat
Board and Organ of State - how fund all allocated to each one and what are the
fund used for.
Straight away, he will have understood how all the jigs work
together in a big overall jigsaw puzzle.
2. And ideally, the candidate is expose to trade - where he
works with many overseas Government in securing trade, investment, business etc
--- that will home in his diplomatic skills - and bring in investors into
Singapore.
3. And the best to wrap things up, he has a good overview of
the Defense security or Homeland Security --- where he understand the bolts and
nuts of the security --- that protect our homeland.
With good deep knowledge of these portfolios --- will put him
in a good stead --- to be a very competent PM.
[2:49 pm, 09/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
1. And of course, the next will be to expose this future PM
to the public - with publicity, comms and reaching out to the public to shape
the perception of him to be a competent PM and a PM that can connect with the
public and the electorate.
2. This will take some times --- hence I agree with the DPM
Heng Swee Keat - that his runway is rather short for him to do all the above
----- as the covid play havoc to his plan.
3. In retrospect, PM Lee did systematically put DPM Heng
through all the above pivoted Ministries --- and DPM Heng did display his
competencies. Unfortuantely, covid mess up his track and his age is keeping up
with him.
4. Hence, to put through the next PM to the same beat ---
will be quite daunting, demanding and a stretch target ----- that is why I feel
quite unsettling.
[3:02 pm, 09/04/2021] +Elena Woo: Yes, well the selected
cream of the crop will be the 4 PM in-line then after that let the public vote
right?
[3:03 pm, 09/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心: Cabinet
decide.
[3:03 pm, 09/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心: I don't
know.
[3:24 pm, 09/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
1. The covid present a new normal - and new ways of managing
the country may have to emerge.
2. The geopolitical tension has go one nought up - and can
suddenly turn dangerous.
3. The next PM may have to be thrown into a new normal -
that's unseen before.
4. So unity in supporting the next PM become very vital
[4:18 pm, 09/04/2021] +REACH: [Sent by Gov.sg –
9 Apr]
As of 12pm, MOH has preliminarily confirmed no new cases of
locally transmitted COVID-19 infection.
There are 26 imported cases, who had already been placed on
Stay-Home Notice upon arrival in Singapore.
MOH will share further updates in its press release that will
be issued later tonight.
go.gov.sg/moh090421update
[4:33 pm, 09/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
https://sg.yahoo.com/news/china-sends-more-jets-taiwan-122209017.html
Tension of war over Taiwan rising ....
[4:34 pm, 09/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心: https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/eu-drug-regulator-finds-link-between-astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine-and-blood-clots
169 blood clots - rare but link to AstraZeneca vaccine used.
[4:42 pm, 09/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心:
Computer-simulated invasion will kick off Taiwan war games
Exercises will run 24 hours a day in first phase of Taipei’s
largest annual military drills which start on April 23
All possible scenarios of an invasion on the island will be
simulated, according to defence ministry
Reuters
SCMP
Published: 2:33pm, 7 Apr, 2021
-----
1. It will be a sad state of affairs - if the 2 sibling
states resort to military clashes.
2. If it result in bigger war - where many people of the same
ancestral root dies or ended in mass destruction - it will be a painful
tragedy.
3. When both are born from the same ancestral root, same
ancestral source, same cultural heritage ---- mutual slaughtering is the most
tragic disastrous outcome ......
------
4. I am not here to talk about military strategies or
military tactics - because technological advancement --- is almost like
pitching hard-cold robots, drones, missiles and other military assets
bombardment against human fleshes. Because talking about millitary strategies
and tactics --- become a cold-blooded monster executing maneouver heartless,
mindless execution of human lives.
5. Foot soldiers storming of shores --- will only come when
humans are slaugthered by robots with mass destruction at either sides.
6. There are no winners in such war - only blood and mangled
fleshes and bodies.
7. Resolution of difficult issues needs calm and cool mind,
and genuine efforts to resolve difficult issues peacefully.
8. Both sides resorting to hard-headed approach with
irreversible stances --- will diminshed all peaceful efforts to resolve
difficult issues.
9. Most important, never close any
doors or windows for talk and negotiation - if not to degenerate into
resolution by weapons and fights.
[5:46 pm, 09/04/2021] ☸️ Danny 心: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/business/singapore-ratifies-rcep-trade-agreement-first-country-asean-14588416
After
Japan, China - Singapore has ratifies the RCEP.
[6:45 pm, 09/04/2021] +REACH: Dear Contributors,
⏰ We will be closing the chat in 15 minutes ⏰
Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Goodnight!
Megan
[6:48 pm, 09/04/2021] +Alvin Lim: Gdnite Megan
[6:50 pm, 09/04/2021] +Bobby Tan: Good night w
[6:50 pm, 09/04/2021] +Bobby Tan: Megan
[6:57 pm, 09/04/2021] +Smiley face: “You begin your journey not knowing where it will take you. You have plans, you have dreams, but every now and again you have to take uncharted roads, face impassable mountains, cross treacherous rivers, be blocked by landslides and earthquakes. That's the way my life has been.”
-- Lee Kuan Yew
[6:59 pm, 09/04/2021] +REACH: Dear Contributors,
We will be closing the chat for today.
Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Goodnight!
Megan
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