REACH 367 - What are your views about the Forward Singapore exercise led by DPM Lawrence Wong? Are there particular concerns you hope to address through this exercise?
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29 Jun 2022 (10am - 7pm)
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[10:20 am, 29/06/2022] +REACH: 📢Topic📢
Deputy Prime Minister Lawrence Wong on Tuesday (June 28) called on Singaporeans to offer ideas to shape the future of Singapore, which he described as at a crossroads post-Covid-19. Their contributions will be part of a Forward Singapore road map to be released in the middle of next year that will set out both policy recommendations and how various parts of society can better contribute to the nation's shared goals, based on its values of a united people and a society that is just and equal.
💬 What are your views about the Forward Singapore exercise led by DPM Lawrence Wong? Are there particular concerns you hope to address through this exercise?
The year-long Forward Singapore exercise will be led by DPM Wong and will have six pillars headed by his fellow fourth-generation leaders, in areas such as jobs, housing and health. DPM Wong said he understood the struggles that Singaporeans face - perhaps more so today than in the past - and added that he hopes to have honest conversations about these concerns and how to tackle them together.
As the world and society have changed and continue to change, it cannot be business-as-usual as today's stable state of affairs can be easily disrupted tomorrow, he said. The city-state is in better economic shape than most, and has shown a strong sense of social solidarity amid the pandemic. Strengthening the social compact means Singapore can turn each set of challenges into opportunities, which DPM Wong cited as a key reason for embarking on this exercise.
But all this requires more resources, so society has to collectively determine how much more the government should spend, and on what, as well as how much more people are prepared to pay to fund this spending, said DPM Wong. A strong social compact must provide not just for this generation but across generations, and "it is our sacred duty not to squander what we have inherited", said DPM Wong. "I hope we can all approach this with open minds and big hearts, be willing to give and take, as we negotiate difficult trade-offs, so we may arrive at where we want to be, stronger and more united than when we started."
👉🏼 https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/lawrence-wong-launches-forward-spore-to-set-out-roadmap-for-a-society-that-benefits-many-not-a-few
👉🏼 https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/lawrence-wong-forward-singapore-social-compact-2774556
👉🏼https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/forward-singapore-exercise-social-compact-lawrence-wong-speech-2774561
👉🏼 https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/full-lawrence-wong-speech-forward-singapore-2774651
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[10:28 am, 29/06/2022] +BL: Pleased to see a mention of widening the opportunities for kids, and not being so focused on academic success. Whilst I recognise Singapore's Education System is very good for kids with Academic ability - all the others are left woefully behind and feel like they are failing. He identifies that well off parents are able to support their kids through tuition and extra curricular. We really need to overhaul our education system so that academic kids continue to do well, but there is an equally valuable and attractive path for kids who have other abilities.
[10:28 am, 29/06/2022] +Rama: Agree
[10:29 am, 29/06/2022] +BL: Also pleased to see a continued positive embracing of being open to the world, including workers from overseas. Very happy that we are not turning inward like other countries and falling back on messages of nationalism. I believe that a major benefit of having a widely supported government is that they do not need to use shallow emotionally driven campaigns to ensure votes.
[10:31 am, 29/06/2022] +BL: Our future will come from our Children. We will need them to support us and ensure our country stays relevant and independent. We must invest in them at all levels and for all people.
[10:31 am, 29/06/2022] +BL: DPM Wong is proving to be an effective and intelligent politician already, very happy about this.
[10:31 am, 29/06/2022] +Rama: Our only resources
[10:31 am, 29/06/2022] +Rama: 👍👏👌
[10:34 am, 29/06/2022] +BL: "Another way is to broaden the conception of merit beyond academic credentials by recognising and developing talents in diverse fields and providing opportunities for people to advance at multiple stages of their lives." - yes, thank you! The World is so different now from the 1950's.
[11:03 am, 29/06/2022] +Valli: Singapore is very fortunate to have capable leaders & effectively sourcing & selecting the next leader to lead.
The passing of baton to the next best leader should be praised & Singaporeans are fortunate in this sense to continue & maintain stability in this nation.
[11:40 am, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
1. Firstly, DPM Wong announcing Forward Singapore exercise to cement social compact - is a forward looking exercise.
Ensuring social compact ensure life satisfaction, address pain points that our citizens face, address them, uplift everyone - and this will ensure unity while avoiding fractures from emerging within the Society.
As a result, political continuity and stable Government will be assured.
2. Secondly, organising the exercise with 6 pillars helmed by the respective 4G leaders - assure Singaporeans that our Nation future is in good hands - and the hallmarks of Epistocracy (Deep insight in political governance) + Technocracy (Deep expertise in the respective Economic and Social sectors) - that cover the entire spectrum of running the Government machinery is well taken care of.
As quietly observed, 3 important areas - namely Defense, Internal Security and Foreign Affairs - still helm by 3G leaders.
[0:13 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Areas of concerns hope to address
1. Collecting feedback from various sources.
2. Areas of concerns to be discussed are:-
a. Housing - affordability for younger generations
b. Sustainability - eg. plastic bag charges, need to bag refuses and hygiene
c. Food security and food prices
d. Job security, job opportunities, stable Jobs, disruption by tech, displacement by industry shift, re-employment for the young and the mature workers
e. Energy security and energy prices
f. Healthcare - affordability and prevention of future Disease X.
g. Child education - ensure children drop off from traditional avenues can be reimmersed in other avenues and catchup.
h. Fiscal budget - balanced budget, sustainable tax revenue, help for needy and ensure reasonable wealth tax but not excessive that will chase away wealthy and impact tax sustainability.
i. Bifurcation of economy, supply chain, technologies, finance and geopolitical dynamics - how does it affect us.
j. Active ageing, sustainable ageing and elderly care.
[0:22 pm, 29/06/2022] +Poh S. Lim: Add
k. An equitable, efficient and compassionate judiciary system
[0:27 pm, 29/06/2022] +GLCM: The last 40-50yrs, we may have been accelerating and being ahead of neighbours. However, for the next lap, the gap could be narrowed and as a nation, we have to be prepared. The ramifications and the impact to the livelihoods of our next generation.
Partnerships could be one way with other countries to encourage win win and our next gen has to be nimble to move for growth and ideally return to their roots and "pay forward" 回馈社会
[1:02 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/turkey-lifts-objections-finland-sweden-joining-nato-rcna35772
Turkey lifts objections to Finland and Sweden joining NATO.
[1:03 pm, 29/06/2022] +SL: Turks got what they want. 👍
[1:03 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
My assessment is correct.
[1:03 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Faster than I thought.
[1:05 pm, 29/06/2022] +SL: PKK,YPG,FETÖ are going go gg
[1:06 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Well this is geopolitics.
We are not in their position - cannot comment.
[1:07 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
However we are engaging Turkey - to secure food as alternative sources for us - to ensure our food security.
[1:13 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Kurds like Rohingya is a very unfortunate race.
No homeland - scatter all over different countries - unwanted.
[1:23 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Turkey ports lie in the black sea - a heavily mine and secured by both Turkey, Russia navy, targeted by Ukraine to free their ports.
Hence food exported and transiting from Black Sea to our ports will be very challenging.
But Turkey is a big producer of various food - a good alternative food source for us.
[1:29 pm, 29/06/2022] +Rama: Arm twisted by America
[1:30 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Hahaha.
US and NATO.
[1:30 pm, 29/06/2022] +Rama: So, sell off s400 to get f35!?
[1:31 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
🤷
[1:33 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
You will need some one who can talk to Russia.
Else Russia block the whole black sea - Turkey ports block - the world got no food from Turkey.
[1:34 pm, 29/06/2022] +Rama: China/Belarus/Chechnya!?
[1:35 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
They are not in NATO bloc and wonder why will they want to help if NATO is antagonising them.
[1:35 pm, 29/06/2022] +Rama: North Korea is talking about America starting a Asian nato
[1:37 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
I friend you, you don't friend me, thus I don't friend you - is not the monopoly of toddlers.
It happens to adults.
It also happens to Countries.
Because humanity has 3 inherent flaws - ignorance, greed and hatred.
[1:38 pm, 29/06/2022] +Rama: That's why politicians are not gentleman
[1:39 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Hahaha.
人心能治，天道开。
If human mind and heart can be treated - Heaven Path will open for human to survive and to continue living.
Humanity existence is at the edge.
[1:40 pm, 29/06/2022] +Frankie Wee: Geopolitically, Turkey and the Iraqi army have launched military campaigns to dislodge the PKK from the town of Sinjar in northern Iraq, where the PKK’s partnership with Iranian proxy groups and rivalry with Iraqi Kurdistan’s ruling party, the Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP), has hindered the anti-IS coalition and U.S. containment of Iran. A PKK withdrawal from Sinjar, per a United Nations-backed agreement, presents one less problem to manage.
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order-from-chaos/2022/06/03/turkeys-threat-to-derail-swedish-and-finnish-nato-accession-reraises-the-kurdish-question/
[1:41 pm, 29/06/2022] +REACH: Dear Contributors
We’d love to hear more from you on today's topic 😊
We have had good feedback and hope that we can keep the discussion robust and active!
Megan
[1:41 pm, 29/06/2022] +Darren Chua: What’s up?
[2:05 pm, 29/06/2022] +REACH: 📢Topic📢
Deputy Prime Minister Lawrence Wong on Tuesday (June 28) called on Singaporeans to offer ideas to shape the future of Singapore, which he described as at a crossroads post-Covid-19. Their contributions will be part of a Forward Singapore road map to be released in the middle of next year that will set out both policy recommendations and how various parts of society can better contribute to the nation's shared goals, based on its values of a united people and a society that is just and equal.
💬 What are your views about the Forward Singapore exercise led by DPM Lawrence Wong? Are there particular concerns you hope to address through this exercise?
The year-long Forward Singapore exercise will be led by DPM Wong and will have six pillars headed by his fellow fourth-generation leaders, in areas such as jobs, housing and health. DPM Wong said he understood the struggles that Singaporeans face - perhaps more so today than in the past - and added that he hopes to have honest conversations about these concerns and how to tackle them together.
As the world and society have changed and continue to change, it cannot be business-as-usual as today's stable state of affairs can be easily disrupted tomorrow, he said. The city-state is in better economic shape than most, and has shown a strong sense of social solidarity amid the pandemic. Strengthening the social compact means Singapore can turn each set of challenges into opportunities, which DPM Wong cited as a key reason for embarking on this exercise.
But all this requires more resources, so society has to collectively determine how much more the government should spend, and on what, as well as how much more people are prepared to pay to fund this spending, said DPM Wong. A strong social compact must provide not just for this generation but across generations, and "it is our sacred duty not to squander what we have inherited", said DPM Wong. "I hope we can all approach this with open minds and big hearts, be willing to give and take, as we negotiate difficult trade-offs, so we may arrive at where we want to be, stronger and more united than when we started."
👉🏼 https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/lawrence-wong-launches-forward-spore-to-set-out-roadmap-for-a-society-that-benefits-many-not-a-few
👉🏼 https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/lawrence-wong-forward-singapore-social-compact-2774556
👉🏼https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/forward-singapore-exercise-social-compact-lawrence-wong-speech-2774561
👉🏼 https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/full-lawrence-wong-speech-forward-singapore-2774651
[2:10 pm, 29/06/2022] +BL: why is he labelled "Brother Lawrence Wong"?
[2:10 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Lol cause NTUC
[2:10 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: I ask the same question
[2:10 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: 🤣🤣
[2:10 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: A bit lame oh well 😂😂
[2:12 pm, 29/06/2022] +Smiley face: Never second guessing what our policymakers and government are planning likewise our leaders should not second guess what our citizens needs and wants are! Let it be once in a lifetime open heart talk and an united effort in sync for a common mission that is MAJULAH SINGAPURA!
[2:14 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Brother - refer to humbleness.
Believe parity in status - to help one another in the various roles they play
But title is different.
DPM and future leaders represent the responsibilities that come along with the title.
[2:15 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: 🫣 then no need bold the word 🤣🤣
[2:55 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
1. Some people say tweak the electoral system - to ensure more political diversity and representation.
2. DPM Wong response is social compactness more important than political diversity that will lead to divisiness and polarisation.
3. I agree with him, social compactness and social integration is the key to unity.
4. Having competent government that take care of the needs of Singaporeans - more important than a quarrelesome parliament - that trigger deadlock, inertia or worst pull the whole Nation apart into many directions that bring a very bad outcome to the people and the Nation.
[2:58 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/world/israel-heads-towards-snap-election-lapid-poised-be-pm-2776431
Coalition government fall apart within 1 year.
Re-election again.
[2:59 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
"How Macron's failures created an ungovernable France".
A coalition government that become ungovernable.
https://sg.yahoo.com/style/macrons-failures-created-ungovernable-france-050000866.html#:~:text=All%20rights%20reserved.-,How%20Macron%27s%20failures%20created%20an%20ungovernable%20France,-Daniel%20Johnson
[3:02 pm, 29/06/2022] +BL: Coalition is good for large very diverse countries, to ensure all voices are heard. Singapore is not large and although diverse in many ways we are not diverse in our thinking (because already well represented)
[3:06 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Malaysia government coalition government also change hands many times within these few years.
[3:07 pm, 29/06/2022] +BL: Unfortunately non-secular governments come with a whole host of other (non-democratic) problems and can never properly represent the whole country.
[3:09 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Agree. That's why you will need a governance system that inherits both the merits of a democratic system and an autocratic system but remove the demerits of both systems.
[3:09 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
A New Governance System - for the current World
A new governance system may be more appropriate for the World - as opposed to "Democracy versus Communism" - the 2 eminent Governance System that dominate the World today.
1. This new system - should be a hybrid of Epistocracy (Competence and Insight in Political Knowledge and Governance) + Technocracy (Professional knowledge in Specialised Field and in Science) ------- thus Government are not elected based on popularity (a core feature of Democracy system) ---- but proven "Competence" in Governance that cover the entire spectrum in running a Country.
2. Once the candidates of this hybrid Governance System "Episto-Technocratic" is specially selected through a rigorous process - it should be subjected to Universal Suffrage (to undergo election - to acquire mandate from the citizens as voters) - to gain legitimacy as the rightful Government of the Nation.
3. Epistocracy is characterised by candidates who have deep political knowledge, attentive to micro issues, possess macro views - on domestic and global issues, able to connect all the dots - to form a complete picture of the issues face by the Nation (based on domestic developments and Global developments) - that cut across politics, economy, social integration, security (external & internal), welfare, community development, education, healthcare etc.
4. Technocracy is charaterised by candidates with deep professional knowledge and expertise in their specialised fields eg. IT, Finance, Economics, Taxation, City Infrastructure Planning, Manufacturing, Sustainability, Law, Military, Internal Security, Healthcare, Education etc - whereby candidates must demonstrate deep knowledge, proven performance, display relevant skills in their respective field of expertise - to make informed decision that affect the population and the Nation.
5. Democratic Government is elected based on "popularity" - and the demerits of such a system is a less than competent government could be elected by making all sorts of promises to please the voters in election that cannot be fulfilled or if can be fulfilled will have a long term detrimental effects on the Nation or the population; or a coalition government with diverse political interests that tear the governance or Society apart; or a bi-partisan deadlock government with views and interests of uncompromising opposing poles that cause the Nation to plunge into inertia could be elected ----
The democracy system (in many Countries) already demonstrate such governance become extremely difficult, ineffective, deadlock, inertia, chaotic, quarrelsome, polarised, divisive, and repeated re-elections have to be conducted as the coalition government break apart - that divide the population rather than unite them for the greater good of the Nation ---
Such breakdown override the merits of Democracy which suppose to be characterise by political and social freedom, check and balance in the government policies, constructive debate and discussion that produce a more balanced policies that benefit the people, and gaining legitimacy to government through mandate given by the population through votes.
(A feedback and indication of support by the voters - via the democractic process to the Government that the policies formulated indeed benefit the people).
6. Communism is autocratic, as the governmnet are not elected by the people through Universal Suffrage - and the demerits of such a system is that, it may formulate policies that favor the elites and the Nation - but while in doing so, may ignore the needs of the larger population intentionally or unintentionally even though with good intent.
Because at the back of the mind, the Government will not lose its right to govern - as it is not subjected to election votes by the people - and thus unconsciously - will most likely not take into account or fail to look indepth into the needs of the population --- as there are no feedback from the recipient of the policies that impact them.
7. Hence to prevent the hybrid "Episto-Technocratic" Governance System from inheriting the demerits of ignoring the needs of the population - this Governance System must be subjected to Universal Suffrage - to be elected by the citizens so as to win the mandate from the people and acquire legitimacy to govern the Nation.
a. To ensure the Universal Suffrage is effective in order to keep the elected Government on the toe - so that such Government will implement policies that is best for the Nation as well as meeting the genuine needs of the population - this specifically selected candidates in the Party - must be pitted against oppositions during the Election - whereby the oppositions should make up of individuals who felt that their needs have been ignored or are not fully covered by the policies implemented by Government.
b. Such election, whereby selected candidates can lose in the election - will pose a "credible threat" to the Government candidates. - This will ensure the "Episto-Technocractic" Government have to think deeply in formulating and implementing their policies -- to benefit not only the Nation, the elites but also cover the majority of the population it represent.
Some population that fall through the crack - must be actively identified, sorted out and look into - to ensure no one is left out by the "Episto-Technocractic" Government - by introducing relief measures that the policies fail to address.
This will ensure not only the majority needs will benefit from the policies but those who fall through the crack - are also address.
8. Hence I will classify this "Episto-Technocratic" Governance System - as the "Middle Path Governance System" to replace both the Democracy Governance System and Communism Governance System ---- as this "Middle Path" Governance System --- inherit both the merits of the Democratic System and Communism Governance System ---- while doing away with the demerits of the current 2 opposing systems.
[3:09 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
If the world countries adopt this "Middle Path Governance System" - then there will be no divide between Democracy and Communism.
Then there will be no cold war based on ideology difference - democracy versus communism.
Then there will be a lower risk of a big fight between 2 superpowers - using ideology as an excuse.
And world population will be governed under a system that care for them under their rights as a citizen - not derail by the inadequacies of both current Governance System.
This will reset the World Divide.
[3:12 pm, 29/06/2022] +JC: To be honest, I don't feel as good about this "Forward Singapore" exercise as I was about the Singapore Conversation back in the post 2011 election days and the various initiatives (like REACH) to gather ground feedback.
Our government should (esp after 2011) be a lot more aware about the importance of engaging the ground CONSISTENTLY. I think there are many efforts since then and my assumption is that our leaders should have a pretty good picture on ground opinions.
If this is true, then Why do we spend this big amount of time/money on this "Forward Singapore" program?? Just to WAYANG? Just for propaganda to shove governments' thinking down our throats?
If this is NOT true, then what has the govt been doing???? Have they not learnt the lessons from past elections? Or has they gotten complacent after the R Khan incident?
I applaud any effort to listen to the ground but PLEASE don't do this just to "show" that you are "listening to the people" -> the people will know when they are heard, through better, more inclusive and more inspiring policies.
Case in point - look at the recent changes to cancer coverage in Singapore. Private insurance are getting a free pass to reduce their coverage and hide behind MOH's policy (which is well meaning but misses out some important details). This is covered extensively in the papers but MOH's response has been highly unsatisfactory. Is this going be the kind of policy making that will endear the govt to the people?
[3:12 pm, 29/06/2022] +Frankie Wee: https://mothership.sg/2018/03/christmas-island-never-belonged-to-spore/
If Christmas Island never transfer to Australia. Singapore will have two island.
[3:13 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Even if we have we don’t have the ablility to protect it. And more trouble with Indonesia
[3:13 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: No point keeping it
[3:13 pm, 29/06/2022] +Frankie Wee: No wonder
[3:14 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Was sold very cheap to aust… but issue is just too far apart from Sg. We such small country have no ability to develop 2 places
[3:14 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: If batam maybe we will consider
[3:14 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: 🤣
[3:15 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: How to keep?
[3:16 pm, 29/06/2022] +Frankie Wee: Airplane ✈️ if possible
[3:16 pm, 29/06/2022] +Frankie Wee: I understand Singapore has not developed yet but to sold to Australia
[3:17 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: When independence… we have resource to do it mah? Think about it.. the person who decide is very smart.
[3:17 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Indonesia would have made it useless for us.. navy will have so much issue
[3:27 pm, 29/06/2022] +Smiley face: No time is better or bad than now or previously, it is the moment, opportunities and good decisions that matters.
[3:39 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: Frankly , when borders are closed / just open , how many ppl go 78 Shenton to do body check up for employment permit . A mornin at least got 20 . When last year Jun borders not open how a Malaysian from Malaysia can swim to Singapore get a permit to work in tuition center ?
[3:43 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: Actually sometime dont want to say too obvious. Btw i not aiming at those FT create job for Singaporean, in fact i am grateful to them but those malaysian white collar ( employed in stat board some more ) , u really think we can not see?
[3:45 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: yet claim to listen to us ?
[3:47 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: Why not ask them serve NS first ?
[3:49 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Can you be more specific?
[3:49 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: u can read right
[3:49 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: What kind of role? And stat board is not government.
[3:49 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: if not ask public servant go check all MNC
[3:49 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: If our population have enough talent we won’t be hiring them
[3:50 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: U know SG facing underemploement
[3:50 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: And the level of connection they have… if they are board members. Example in Temasek.
[3:50 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: So Great thanks for clearing the air
[3:51 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: I think TH is not Stats board i sprivate company
[3:53 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Underemployment… as some choose to be part of the gig economy.
Part timer used to earn more then full time.
White collar jobs don’t just go to singaporean it takes time for us to learn and climb up. Are we willing to travel overseas to gain those experience and come back to work? 😥
[3:54 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: Than why everyday so many cross the causeway to do White collar job ?
[3:55 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: Do enlighten me.
[3:55 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Do you know we also cross over to JB to do their white collar jobs there?
[3:55 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: It is both ways as long you have talent
[3:55 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Many top management in Jb factories are Singaporean
[3:55 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: I audit companies in Jb I see them quite often
[3:56 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: U not local ?
[3:56 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: local born
[3:56 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: I am local born and serve here
[3:56 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: How many we ccross over and how many cross over here
[3:57 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: JB company pay 100k SGD to executive working there… go do some reading..
[3:57 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Many and you might not know…
They go there around 10 am.. you see big cars driving in… to Pasir gudang
[3:58 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: the ratio is 1 : 10
[3:58 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: How many singaporean willing to work in JB
[3:58 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: u dont tell me 1 000 vs 100,000
[3:58 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: Too bad
[3:59 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: You want 1 to 1 ratio you find that many talent at that level first
[3:59 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: Ur arguement cant stand
[3:59 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: 🤷🏻♂️ oh well.
[3:59 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: i have say my piecce
[3:59 pm, 29/06/2022] +REACH: 📢Topic📢
Deputy Prime Minister Lawrence Wong on Tuesday (June 28) called on Singaporeans to offer ideas to shape the future of Singapore, which he described as at a crossroads post-Covid-19. Their contributions will be part of a Forward Singapore road map to be released in the middle of next year that will set out both policy recommendations and how various parts of society can better contribute to the nation's shared goals, based on its values of a united people and a society that is just and equal.
💬 What are your views about the Forward Singapore exercise led by DPM Lawrence Wong? Are there particular concerns you hope to address through this exercise?
The year-long Forward Singapore exercise will be led by DPM Wong and will have six pillars headed by his fellow fourth-generation leaders, in areas such as jobs, housing and health. DPM Wong said he understood the struggles that Singaporeans face - perhaps more so today than in the past - and added that he hopes to have honest conversations about these concerns and how to tackle them together.
As the world and society have changed and continue to change, it cannot be business-as-usual as today's stable state of affairs can be easily disrupted tomorrow, he said. The city-state is in better economic shape than most, and has shown a strong sense of social solidarity amid the pandemic. Strengthening the social compact means Singapore can turn each set of challenges into opportunities, which DPM Wong cited as a key reason for embarking on this exercise.
But all this requires more resources, so society has to collectively determine how much more the government should spend, and on what, as well as how much more people are prepared to pay to fund this spending, said DPM Wong. A strong social compact must provide not just for this generation but across generations, and "it is our sacred duty not to squander what we have inherited", said DPM Wong. "I hope we can all approach this with open minds and big hearts, be willing to give and take, as we negotiate difficult trade-offs, so we may arrive at where we want to be, stronger and more united than when we started."
👉🏼 https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/lawrence-wong-launches-forward-spore-to-set-out-roadmap-for-a-society-that-benefits-many-not-a-few
👉🏼 https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/lawrence-wong-forward-singapore-social-compact-2774556
👉🏼https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/forward-singapore-exercise-social-compact-lawrence-wong-speech-2774561
👉🏼 https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/full-lawrence-wong-speech-forward-singapore-2774651
[3:59 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: I also share my piece
[4:00 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Till singaporean willing to travel far to work and move around…like Japan. It is hard for us to progress to next stage
[4:03 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Why Singapore needs foreign talents?
Because:-
1. We may not have the skillets that the industry needs.
2. There are jobs - but locals don't want to take.
3. Some locals prefer gig economy because it give them flexibility - and also don't need to answer to bosses. They are their own bosses.
[4:07 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Working overseas is not supported by peers.. 🥲
My wife don’t support as well 😅
The concept of moving overseas to work is not strongly encourage as Singapore has good job why move
[4:10 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: it not easy if u want get a job in HK , They will ask HK manpower to prove, HK no one want the job or cant do the JOB . if not permit will not be grant .
[4:11 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Eg.
1. We lack talents in quantum computing to build quantum computers in which the materials and parts need to process subatomic processing eg. Qubit, superposition, 0 and 1 rather than binary of 0 or 1, quantum entanglement to process 4 different opposing states together.
Even they offer $200,000 per annum salary to local - any local got the relevant skillsets to take up?
2. Eg. Nuclear fusion technology through nuclear fusion to merge atoms and make bigger atoms to produce heat and hence electricity with safety.
Unlike nuclear fission that are broken up into smaller subatomic particles to produce energy - but result in radioactive waste that can cause radiation and harm human health.
A very high pay job - any local nuclear talent to take up this job?
3. Building sea protection system to prevent flood from rising sea water - any local takers - very high pay.
So far I know Netherlands expert are employed.
[4:11 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Not as hard as you think… of course you need to wanted talent in the country in the first place.
I can work in HK, cause my wife is HK PR. Similarly others with foreign spouses will have much easier access - 50% of recent marriage are mixed race/nationality.
And by the way my wife grew up in singaporean and naturalise singaporean 😉
[4:12 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: At 4 years old if you still don’t consider her as Singaporean lol.. then I have nothing to say 🤣
[4:13 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Same as Singapore mah.. but if really don’t have they still hire overseas talent be in cost or they are really talent
[4:14 pm, 29/06/2022] +Frankie Wee: Singapore is open all competition FT as we have still have job under contributions
[4:15 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Before we lament about foreign talents taking away local jobs that pay high salary - we should ask ourselves - do we have the skillsets to take up the jobs?
If we don't have, then let the foreign talents take it
Train locals.
And then eventually locals can take up the jobs.
If we are xenophobic - and frown on foreign talents that are investing, creating jobs for local, transfer skillsets and knowledge to us - then we as a nation will eventually go downwards.
[4:16 pm, 29/06/2022] +Frankie Wee: That’s right what we have skill future credit
[4:17 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Xenophobic comes in when we think they are a threat…
Which they do, but as the WFH opens up… we get competition from around the world..
[4:17 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心: And trainers on those cutting edge technologies are mainly foreigners - and locals are being trained under them.
[4:17 pm, 29/06/2022] +Rama: True
[4:18 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Only if we get better, if not we prevent talent from coming in to share the knowledge they bring in with them.
And we are not willing to travel outwards to bring new knowledge in. It becomes a dead end for us
[4:19 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: i dont thinkk those white collar cross cause way have any stuff to share we ask
[4:19 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: with us*
[4:19 pm, 29/06/2022] +Rama: Yes
[4:19 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Are you sure? Many have work many years here
[4:19 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Cause they are harder to jump around jobs like singaporean end up they stay and climb the ladder
[4:20 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: How about the freesh grad ?
[4:20 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Low pay long hours don’t want to join… try my industry oil and gas.
[4:20 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Starting is Low…
[4:20 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: i though u audit
[4:20 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: And always on call
[4:21 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: I audit factory that supply to my factory
[4:21 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Quality management
[4:21 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: u a owner i see
[4:21 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: 😑
[4:21 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Small fry in a Japanese firm
[4:22 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: My blue collar Senoir technician also earn more than me…
[4:23 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: like i said white collar job leh
[4:23 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Lol most degree grad won’t stay long.. now my side chem Engineer 80% Malaysian Liao 🤣
[4:23 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: They try hire singaporean but no one stay more than 2 years 🤷🏻♂️
[4:23 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: Why ?
[4:24 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: It cos cheap labour
[4:24 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: I am consider white collar arh small fry
[4:24 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Cause chem engineer is not a easy job
[4:24 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: actually u saw and see the problem
[4:24 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: And for the number of hours put in yes consider Low pay
[4:24 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: NUs and NTU triple A how to get in
[4:24 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: i wanted to be one ah
[4:25 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: then hire malaysian from dontn know which uni
[4:25 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Lol fail GPA 1.4 also go NUS 🤣🤣
Part time easy
[4:25 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Can try
[4:25 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: So u ans my point again
[4:25 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: But if you can survive the degree
[4:25 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: Thanks
[4:25 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: All NTU and NUS for your information
[4:25 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: All the Malaysian hired
[4:25 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: than how they got th edegee?
[4:25 pm, 29/06/2022] +Frankie Wee: How many times SMRT breakdown since now? Who can handle engineering and solve problems?
[4:26 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: By studying?
[4:26 pm, 29/06/2022] +Frankie Wee: Job not easy also
[4:26 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Singapore is meritocracy country
[4:26 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: i mean who pay
[4:26 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: They take loan and pay
[4:26 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: With huge debit after that
[4:26 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Not so lucky like singaporean
[4:27 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: 1k a month repayment after graduation can only clear a small bit
[4:28 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Not everyone is on scholarship… lol
[4:29 pm, 29/06/2022] +Frankie Wee: Study hard to get high score
[4:29 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Among the 4 one is asean scholar. The rest ownself pay
[4:29 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: i never go uni so not surr
[4:29 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: hahaha thanks for been truthfull
[4:29 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: i guess it also
[4:29 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: They no need serve NS right ?
[4:29 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Just being frank.. I am from a Low income family…
[4:30 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: First gen no need serve leh
[4:30 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: If their kids then need to serve
[4:30 pm, 29/06/2022] +Frankie Wee: Ah girl to ARMY maybe possible in future
[4:30 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Unlikely… government already say study say not much help… lol so you can volunteer or full time
[4:31 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: u think is right ?
[4:31 pm, 29/06/2022] +Frankie Wee: I can’t do volunteer. I need money to support myself.
[4:31 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Why is it wrong or right? They still support Singapore grow.. and their kids will serve when is their time
[4:32 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Some MP are naturalise citizen lol you go check
[4:33 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: You ask them to serve first lor
[4:33 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Maybe ask foreign talents such as Netherlands sustainability experts, foreign nuclear scientists, quantum computing experts to serve national service first - then we employ them.
Do you think they will come?
[4:34 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: Now sure u know we discuss white colalr not nuclear phusic
[4:34 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: we cangrant exception to those real rare talent
[4:35 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
If they don't come, we can't build sea protection system, we all die then do we still lament why foreign talents don't do national service?
[4:35 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Even phd granted by Singapore have a hard time getting citizenship…
Singapore don’t really give out easily nowadays I am very sure
[4:35 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Not one case many…
[4:36 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: I work in NUS last time.. I seems many.. don’t get they have to force to leave the country
[4:37 pm, 29/06/2022] +Frankie Wee: Because school fee they can’t afford? But government grant them study here…
[4:37 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: Wahhhh
[4:37 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
During pandemic, no foreign talents come - but how come locals still cannot get local jobs?
Now post pandemic, business laments not enough workers - now open up to foreign workers.
So wonder why locals don't get jobs first?
Aviation sector still many vacancies not fill up - many white collar jobs.
[4:39 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Full scholarship
[4:39 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Leave cause cannot have kids here or kids study here not cheap if your PR now
[4:39 pm, 29/06/2022] +Frankie Wee: Agreed foreigner pay more than local
[4:40 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Which is good force some on the fence to covert lol
[4:40 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
So the issue is - not too many foreigners take away local jobs.
The reasons are:-
1. Skillsets not there.
2. Refuse to take up jobs by locals.
3. Don't have the right connect to match jobs.
4. Some people prefer to work in gig economy and prefer to underwork.
[4:42 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: U need to ask the grab ppl first for point 4 and cleaner .
[4:42 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: i hope u wont take poitn 4 too seriously
[4:42 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Rather than lamenting foreigners take away local jobs.
More fruitful to look up for agencies like e2i, headhunters etc .
[4:43 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Those on full scholarship if they break bond is double the amount they are given…
So no free lunch as many thought…
[4:43 pm, 29/06/2022] +SL: Good initiative to tackle all 6 areas and pending for detail. Economy and jobs are key areas, I guess.
[4:44 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Bond is work here 3 to 5 years depends on your scholarship.
Simple for local thinks… but the talent are force to stay in Singapore in the meanwhile to work in Singapore. Rather than train and give other countries
[4:45 pm, 29/06/2022] +Guillermo Cabeza: The 6 areas of focus seem comprehensive to me. Would like more details on how the engagement will take place to ensure it is broad.
[4:46 pm, 29/06/2022] +Frankie Wee: It’s the same local have serve NS 2 years.
Fair taje and fair give.
[4:46 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
So far, all those graduates around me got well pay full time jobs.
Even mature workers who got retrenched also got jobs.
I don't think is too difficult to find a job currently based on what I know.
[4:46 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: 2 years teach you how to be humble.. and make friends from all level of society is a good rojak lol
[4:47 pm, 29/06/2022] +Frankie Wee: We got learn upgrade with skill future credit. Technology is change new era.
[4:47 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Not so much for foreigner… NS for them quite bad.. some overseas come back have tough time surviving there
[4:47 pm, 29/06/2022] +SL: With the skillset, an individual may not pass the age limit filtering by HR when applying for a job.
[4:48 pm, 29/06/2022] +KL: U need to ask all NS ppl to feel the same haha
[4:48 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Mom will have to step in.
[4:48 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Age limit is set for the potential to grow and use.. hence.. it is business 🥲
[4:48 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Just sad but no choice
[4:50 pm, 29/06/2022] +Smiley face: Electronic Sector:
"eat, sleep, breath, is in their blood...?"
Intel was founded on July 18, 1968, by semiconductor pioneers Robert Noyce and Gordon Moore.
If you recalled the simple beginning of the rising Samsung or Lucky Goldstar. You have to start from 1980s, thousands of Koreans, Taiwanese and Chinese students were graduates of E&E and Comp Sci. For over three decades, relentlessly and multiple failures, today a big pool of engineering talents working on breakthrough technologies and the on going cut-throat competitions.
Today, US, Japan, China and Taiwan are four big players in the electronics sector. With Samsung trying to overtake TSMC and China's SMIC is trying to breakthrough the headwinds from the US sanction.
Where is Singapore talents and what's the gap? What do we need to re-educate our local students to be up to speed? Is the latest MOE launched initiatives able to produce sufficient numbers and the time line needed? For these technologies race is always fast and furious!
[4:50 pm, 29/06/2022] +SL: No ground to step in if the group of age candidate is not selected for or classified as not performing well during an interview?
[4:51 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Hmm...
This is a known problem.
Mom knows about it.
[4:52 pm, 29/06/2022] +SL: Yes. Where shall our senior employees go after leaving the job in a mature market?
[4:53 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Mature workers have a harder time finding a job after retrenchment.
[4:53 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: My friend late 40s already hard to find job.. help also can’t help much..
[4:53 pm, 29/06/2022] +Frankie Wee: Replacement job as older skill
[4:53 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Only way to retrain and do conversion program under e2i.
[4:54 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Can only reskill to new job and yes lower pay
[4:55 pm, 29/06/2022] +Frankie Wee: How about PMET is high pay job?
[4:55 pm, 29/06/2022] +SL: In a mature market, this group of seniors may increase in numbers going down the road.
[4:56 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Curious which mature market is this?
[4:56 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Err I would say decent… but the range quite wide..
[4:57 pm, 29/06/2022] +Frankie Wee: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/job-vacancies-2021-report-mom-employment-pmet-2600666
[5:00 pm, 29/06/2022] +SL: Developed market, the one that reached the state of equilibrium
[5:01 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Even IT also have mature and sunset areas.
Eg. System integration on network and system got obsolete and less demand when server virtualization, cloud computing come into the picture - displacing many system integrators and network integrators.
Eg. Client server computing application development got obsolete when web, mobile apps, AI come into the pictures.
Hence even IT professionals need to constantly upgrade and do conversion.
[5:13 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Now classical computers, laptops, super computers are threaten by quantum computing.
Processing that take years to run even by supercomputing - can be process by quantum computing in matter of hours.
Encryption unbreakable eg. Bank encryption or take years to crack even by supercomputers - can be crack by quantum computing in a matter of hours.
[5:36 pm, 29/06/2022] +jimmy chew: https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/singapores-usd-40-billion-mega-port-takes-aim-at-shipping-chaos-023419744.html
Singapore is forging ahead with a US$40 billion project to build the world’s biggest automated port by 2040.
[5:37 pm, 29/06/2022] +jimmy chew: Credit to the government for their predicting the future and perseverence in getting it done
[5:37 pm, 29/06/2022] +Smiley face: Enlarge Civil Services:
Will the civil service embarks on hiring Singaporeans age 45 to 70 with it PMETs or any vocations.
These Singaporeans perhaps are in between jobs or wish to change or have been retrenched but willing to work and find it difficult in anchoring jobs.
The starting pay be $4,000 and above subject to qualifications and roles offered to them.
Could we afford a 10% increase in headcount, our entire civil service?
These created jobs can be meaningful especially for the 50 years and our older citizens. Afterall, there is no age limit when it comes to serving our nation!
[5:38 pm, 29/06/2022] +Frankie Wee: Singapore will operate automated guided vehicles to move more containers between the yards and berths where ships wait. A human driving a truck will use sensors and wireless communications to lead a convoy of driver-less vehicles in and out of the port. Drones will be used for shore-to-ship deliveries, and aid security guards with checks.
[5:38 pm, 29/06/2022] +Frankie Wee: That’s why I say everyone Singaporean have skill future credit we can upgrade new technology ear
[5:38 pm, 29/06/2022] +Frankie Wee: Era
[5:41 pm, 29/06/2022] +Frankie Wee: Human Working short hours because new technology AI will do duty 24/7
[5:42 pm, 29/06/2022] +Smiley face: https://youtu.be/69NcZ-nno5c
[5:43 pm, 29/06/2022] +Smiley face: Hi Frankie,
How could we help and accommodate our older workers whom will loose their livelihoods? Besides skill futures, how?
[5:44 pm, 29/06/2022] +Smiley face: Too many AI will result in IA.... IA means inaction!
[5:45 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: We need young people to continue to have energy to also drive innovation… having too many aged PMET not necessary good for public sector.
We need them to be relevant and able to take duties given to them.
[5:45 pm, 29/06/2022] +Ken Loh: $3800 is base for any engineering degree paying 4K is no issue at all
[5:46 pm, 29/06/2022] +Smiley face: How to accommodate say people into their 50 and loosing their jobs with existing housing loans and one kid to Educate?
[5:48 pm, 29/06/2022] +Smiley face: A starter is to downgrade their homes to the next smaller ones? Any other way to mitigate?
[5:48 pm, 29/06/2022] +Frankie Wee: Why whole world depend on AI and less human worker. Can we receive payout support the AI network.
Example human work 4hrs with AI support 4hrs. Same salary pay $4k
[5:49 pm, 29/06/2022] +Smiley face: You got it... AI is the driver of the coming 4th revolution! Human will be compromised!
So are we ready?
[5:50 pm, 29/06/2022] +Frankie Wee: Not ready I can imagine by 2040 between 2060
After Russia end of war everything is changed
[5:53 pm, 29/06/2022] +Smiley face: Aging population coupled with cost of labor, two big challenges plus new ways of working, a total game changer now in making!
Must plan today for tomorrow happens to arrive much much faster!
[5:54 pm, 29/06/2022] +Smiley face: Expecting Russia to surrender is like asking China to give up the nine dash lines!
Frankie, it is tough!
[5:55 pm, 29/06/2022] +Smiley face: Middle East:
Days ago, Iraq went in between Iran and Saudi Arabia to broker a possible breakthrough of the two longtime enemy ahead of President Biden visit in July to the Kingdom of Saud. Will there be a new diplomatic relation between Saudi and Iran?
How would the coming meeting between the US and the Saudi be a fruitful outcome or more frictions ahead? What's the price of oil be and so long a barrel of oil is above $120, all things will continue to inflate! Will the Saudi and its OPEC members willing increase production to tame inflation or perhaps not so?
[5:57 pm, 29/06/2022] +Frankie Wee: Whole world will building a new development in Cold War turn into new era technology.
Example Japan were war in Singapore when Japan surrender and restart new development and technology.
[5:58 pm, 29/06/2022] +Frankie Wee: Human education bough us but the future is fast change within period 10-20 years
[6:00 pm, 29/06/2022] +REACH: 📢Topic📢
Deputy Prime Minister Lawrence Wong on Tuesday (June 28) called on Singaporeans to offer ideas to shape the future of Singapore, which he described as at a crossroads post-Covid-19. Their contributions will be part of a Forward Singapore road map to be released in the middle of next year that will set out both policy recommendations and how various parts of society can better contribute to the nation's shared goals, based on its values of a united people and a society that is just and equal.
💬 What are your views about the Forward Singapore exercise led by DPM Lawrence Wong? Are there particular concerns you hope to address through this exercise?
The year-long Forward Singapore exercise will be led by DPM Wong and will have six pillars headed by his fellow fourth-generation leaders, in areas such as jobs, housing and health. DPM Wong said he understood the struggles that Singaporeans face - perhaps more so today than in the past - and added that he hopes to have honest conversations about these concerns and how to tackle them together.
As the world and society have changed and continue to change, it cannot be business-as-usual as today's stable state of affairs can be easily disrupted tomorrow, he said. The city-state is in better economic shape than most, and has shown a strong sense of social solidarity amid the pandemic. Strengthening the social compact means Singapore can turn each set of challenges into opportunities, which DPM Wong cited as a key reason for embarking on this exercise.
But all this requires more resources, so society has to collectively determine how much more the government should spend, and on what, as well as how much more people are prepared to pay to fund this spending, said DPM Wong. A strong social compact must provide not just for this generation but across generations, and "it is our sacred duty not to squander what we have inherited", said DPM Wong. "I hope we can all approach this with open minds and big hearts, be willing to give and take, as we negotiate difficult trade-offs, so we may arrive at where we want to be, stronger and more united than when we started."
👉🏼 https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/lawrence-wong-launches-forward-spore-to-set-out-roadmap-for-a-society-that-benefits-many-not-a-few
👉🏼 https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/lawrence-wong-forward-singapore-social-compact-2774556
👉🏼https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/forward-singapore-exercise-social-compact-lawrence-wong-speech-2774561
👉🏼 https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/full-lawrence-wong-speech-forward-singapore-2774651
[6:01 pm, 29/06/2022] +Rama: Correct
[6:33 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
11,504 new Covid-19 cases in S'pore, more than double the infections a day ago. Crazy number - more than 7,000 over cases. https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/more-than-11500-new-covid-19-cases-reported-in-spore
[6:33 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Singapore toddler dies of COVID-19; country's first coronavirus death under 12 years old
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/toddler-dies-covid-19-singapores-first-coronavirus-death-under-12-years-old-kk-hospital-2773591
[6:34 pm, 29/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Better put on the mask in public
[6:45 pm, 29/06/2022] +REACH: Dear Contributors,
⏰ We will be closing the chat in 15 minutes ⏰
Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Goodnight!
Megan 😊
[6:59 pm, 29/06/2022] +Smiley face: 29 June, 2022
To: Our Distinguished Leaders and All Honorable Members
"A first world nation and a first world government in transit to a new team of leaders."
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More important now to listen to all walks of life, if possible to cover many previously uncovered areas and improve on these lapses.
Three areas of focus are aging with supports, the future of education and new skill sets, and the emerging generation and their aspirations.
Now it is timely for all citizens to raise their concerns or hopes, with it a simple idea or a simple request or a good suggestion.
The important point is to come forward to participate in this "Forward Singapore" platform discussions. A million citizen voices heard is far stronger than a hundred thousands reached !
Never second guessing what our policymakers and government are planning likewise our leaders should not second guess what our citizens needs and wants are! Let it be once in a lifetime open hearted talk and an united effort in sync for a common mission that is MAJULAH SINGAPURA!
Mr Lee Kuan Yew became prime minister at the age of 35 faced with nothing in hand and built things from scratch! Our coming prime minister and his team will do the same mileage and carry that famous red colored briefcase to the success of tomorrows Singapore! The key to success is determination and selflessness, that's our founding fathers possessed in them!
Afterwords:
We are the first world citizens, we can accommodate and include more people into our system of engagements and policymaking processes, that's itself is "Forward Singapore" - MAJULAH! Whether you are young or old, our views and voices matter most in shaping our future Singapore!
To better reach out to community of all ages, perhaps, there may be a need to expand the GRC member to two more members. We can add two more members for SMC? Possible? One whom is age below 33 and the other above 65 years old. These two created members of Parliament shall be named as Emerging members of the community (EMP) and the Senior of the community (SMP). Let the young engage with the youngs and the senior better rapport with all seniors too!
"Be brave to accept failures so that improvements will come next! "
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