REACH 364 - What are your views on the new set of proposed rules to safeguard users? Besides through regulations, what are some other ways we, as users, can help to create a safer social media for other users, especially the young users?
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22 Jun 2022 (10am - 7pm)
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[10:00 am, 22/06/2022] +REACH: 📢 Topic 📢
Social media platforms like Facebook, TikTok and Twitter will soon be legally required to implement safety standards and content moderation processes to minimise users' risk of exposure to harmful online content like terrorist propaganda, under Singapore's new set of proposed Internet rules. They will also need to ensure additional safeguards for users who are under 18 years old, including tools to help them or their parents minimise their exposure to inappropriate content such as sexual or violent videos, and unwanted interactions like online stalking and harassment.
💬 What are your views on the new set of proposed rules to safeguard users? Besides through regulations, what are some other ways we, as users, can help to create a safer social media for other users, especially the young users?
Minister for Communications and Information Josephine Teo announced some details of the proposed new rules in a Facebook post on Monday (June 20). The two proposed Codes are:
📌 Code of Practice for Online Safety
MCI is proposing for designated social media services to have system-wide processes to enhance online safety for all users, especially young users. Younger users' exposure to harmful or inappropriate content, including those promoting dangerous self-harming acts, should be minimised through measures such as community standards. Users who encounter or suffer from online harms - such as the non-consensual distribution of their intimate videos - should have access to user reporting mechanisms to flag them out to social media services to take appropriate action.
📌 Content Code for Social Media Services
MCI is proposing to protect users from egregious harms - like sexual harm and self-harm, or as COVID-19 has shown, content that can threaten public health. The proposed Code will allow Infocomm Media Development Authority (IMDA) to direct social media services to take action against harmful online content so as to protect users.
Examples of content that could be blocked under the new codes include live-stream videos of mass shootings and viral social media “challenges” that encourage young people to perform dangerous stunts like holding their breath until they pass out.
The new Code of Practice for Online Safety and the Content Code for Social Media Services are aimed at codifying these standards in law, and proposed rules include requiring designated social media platforms to implement community standards and content moderation processes, so as to minimise users' risk of exposure to damaging online content, and giving the authorities powers to take action against platforms that fail to meet the requirements.
MCI cited an online survey by Sunlight Alliance for Action (AfA) - a cross-sector alliance that tackles online dangers - which revealed that nearly half of more than 1,000 Singaporeans polled have had personal experiences with online harms, 61 per cent who had encountered gender-based online harms had experienced them mainly on popular social media services.
With the new rules, the country joins a growing number of territories that have enacted or proposed laws to regulate online content. Examples of online safety regulations from other countries such as Germany, Australia, UK, and within the European Union, were also shared.
👉🏻 Social media platforms to remove harmful content, add safeguards under S'pore's proposed rules
https://str.sg/wu2c
👉🏻 S'pore joins other places that have enacted or proposed laws to regulate online content
https://str.sg/wu6x
👉🏻 Budget debate: Singapore to introduce laws to tackle online harm, ensure child safety
https://str.sg/ws6H
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[10:48 am, 22/06/2022] +REACH: Dear Contributors
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[10:50 am, 22/06/2022] +JC: Awesome new rules... Govt is great! 👍 Well done.
[10:51 am, 22/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Depends on the regulations… hope it is open in enforcement. Not use to stamp out voices
[10:52 am, 22/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Hate speech is known to have… but we also need to know what are their concerns.
If all have been just banned and regulated how we know the real voice of the people?
[10:53 am, 22/06/2022] +Rama: Regulations for hate speech and penalties need to be monitored and strengthen accordingly from time to time.
[10:54 am, 22/06/2022] +Ken Loh: There will be certain level of misunderstandings. Hence,the negative voices sound out their disagreement.
Hope that it is not just use to stamp out hate speech, without a team to also figure out how to resolve the issues. If possible.
[10:55 am, 22/06/2022] +Ken Loh: As long as it is non violent, when reasoning.. we do want to hear out their voices.
[10:57 am, 22/06/2022] +Valli: +1
Social media is going out of control.
Regulations are required. This is long overdue.
[10:59 am, 22/06/2022] +Smiley face: 22 June, 2022
"trigger happy keyboard warriors...?"
- - annoymous
Perhaps, Facebook/UG/TikTok local offices and our authorities will have to speed up the process of addressing, investigating and closure for such undesirable posts on the Internet that may harm sentiments, raises EMOTION especially for RACIAL issues and sensitive posts on national IDENTITY.
In this discussion, we are talking about child's Internet protection and wellbeing.
Is POFMA suffices, or do we need new legislation to further intervene these socially bad posts and undesirable/selfish behaviors?
[10:59 am, 22/06/2022] +Rama: Long overdue
[11:01 am, 22/06/2022] +Smiley face: There is great needs to identify and reorganise who's going to champion all these messy complaints that need to be addressed before things go beyond repairs or recovers!
[11:01 am, 22/06/2022] +JC: Actually we can just delete FB, TikTok and Instagram. Life is very good without social media
[11:01 am, 22/06/2022] +JC: Makes u enjoy real life more.
[11:03 am, 22/06/2022] +Ken Loh: I only have Instagram and YouTube lol.. hand still itchy..
the rest delete or never download
[11:03 am, 22/06/2022] +Smiley face: How to police?
Who's going to police 24/7?
What's the metrics and parameters, these constant surveillances?
Which authority to lodge?
How long the process takes from phone call or email to addressing it?
[11:04 am, 22/06/2022] +Ken Loh: There are NS guys doing it already… lol yes 24/7
[11:04 am, 22/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Like your NS photo post online etc
[11:05 am, 22/06/2022] +Ken Loh: A system to filter then human to verify already in place.. long ago.. just the scope expanded lor
[11:05 am, 22/06/2022] +Smiley face: Perhaps to classify according to
Social/National Risk factor such as the content and so on that will do greater harm to each age group, each race group or a community?
[11:05 am, 22/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Google Facebook all have such teams across time zone to do 24/7
[11:06 am, 22/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Cause computer really not so smart to judge.. hence humans, but also have certain bias 🤷🏻♂️
[11:06 am, 22/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Better than nothing
[11:06 am, 22/06/2022] +Smiley face: AI could also be in play too...
At our ends, can telco, Facebook. Policymakers, enforcement decide?
[11:07 am, 22/06/2022] +Smiley face: Then why cracks and gaps happened?
Could it be an internal issue of cross cultural bias?
[11:07 am, 22/06/2022] +Ken Loh: AI cannot catch everthing..
Just like when you type @ _h__ lol you know what it is in the context but AI cannot judge
[11:07 am, 22/06/2022] +Smiley face: AI post things...
[11:08 am, 22/06/2022] +Smiley face: We have to apprehend at our ends.... This big global connectivity!
[11:08 am, 22/06/2022] +Frankie Wee: AI is smart network that create more developers
[11:08 am, 22/06/2022] +Ken Loh: AI post things cause got library to post the content…
But catch is a totally different ball game
[11:08 am, 22/06/2022] +Smiley face: Any ways to stop and erase...
POFMA may be too late?
[11:08 am, 22/06/2022] +Ken Loh: We know how to outsmart programming lol
[11:08 am, 22/06/2022] +Smiley face: Great news, Ken!
[11:09 am, 22/06/2022] +Smiley face: Lead time to catch?
1 min, 1 hour, 1 day, or 2 week?
[11:09 am, 22/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Programs are rules set for the computer to check and filter mah…
If you come out with something new.. specially video is very hard to decode and scan for violation
[11:10 am, 22/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Try coding.. not easy for such open task.
[11:10 am, 22/06/2022] +Smiley face: Ex-PM Mahathir says Malaysia should claim Singapore and Riau Islands
https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/ex-pm-mahathir-says-malaysia-should-claim-singapore-and-riau-islands
Reclaiming 😝😝😝😲🤔
[11:11 am, 22/06/2022] +Smiley face: Example, maybe there is a need to.... Raises national and emotional stress on people...
How?
Credit and credit ability
How to classify?
Personal opinion or more than that?
Not a good news to READ!
[11:11 am, 22/06/2022] +Ken Loh: 🤦🏻♂️ always stir us for fun
[11:12 am, 22/06/2022] +Smiley face: Ken,.
No FUN to many....!
Cannot play play or stir stir.... No good means!
[11:13 am, 22/06/2022] +Smiley face: Soverenity or testing others reactions...
No good means!
[11:13 am, 22/06/2022] +Ken Loh: We are like a kid that they kick out and now regretted wanted us back 😑
[11:13 am, 22/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Where got so good..
[11:14 am, 22/06/2022] +Smiley face: "When smoke or spake starts,... Hopefully there will be no fire started somewhere....?"
- - annoymous
[11:14 am, 22/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Hence, NS is never part that we can give up on. This dolphin is not easy to play with.
No longer a poison shrimp
[11:14 am, 22/06/2022] +Smiley face: No need POFMA...
Just cancel!
[11:15 am, 22/06/2022] +Smiley face: What if others motivated this person to speak out.... Others?
Cannot take it likely?
[11:16 am, 22/06/2022] +Smiley face: Count the flag stripes... You get it...?
[0:01 pm, 22/06/2022] +Valli: Is he attempting to follow Russia ?
[0:04 pm, 22/06/2022] +Frankie Wee: Our flag Singapore is independent 😊
Unlike HK 1997 land retune and flag change design.
[0:18 pm, 22/06/2022] +Poh S. Lim: To reply Dr M, the Johore sultanate had its chance to develop Singapore but did not.
Had the British not seen a strategic location for it empire’s trading town and later on as a naval base, Singapore may well be still known as Temasek and be a sleepy village or at most a small town, somewhat like Batam Island and there would not be a modern metropolis here.
It took the British and generations of immigrants to build Singapore to what it is today, so rightly belongs to them, especially since the Johore sultan eventually sold Singapore off to the British.
Dr M’s memories are fading in his twilight years and he’s just trying to remain relevant, given that Putin has enabled all this talk of historical ‘rights’.
We are now in the twenty-first century!
[0:21 pm, 22/06/2022] +REACH: Dear Contributors
We’d love to hear more from you on today's topic 😊
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[0:26 pm, 22/06/2022] +Poh S. Lim: With the two proposed COPs and POFMA, it should cover a wide range of online and social media false and malicious information flow.
I wonder if the general public may be allowed to be involved in issues related to public discourse and if an ombudsman system established to ensure that conflicting points of view are allowed to be aired, even if they appear to be misleading?
[0:34 pm, 22/06/2022] +Rama: Brain not in the centre if his head
[0:38 pm, 22/06/2022] +Frankie Wee: I would to share about it.
How to protect ourselves when someone setup or stole password. He or she can scam ppl social media group who fell believe victim scam.
When asked police station about case Facebook. The police said can’t do anything and left unit further notice.
[1:12 pm, 22/06/2022] +BL: Yes agreed. Pleased to see action being taken. Also YouTube I assume.
[1:13 pm, 22/06/2022] +BL: Correct, but also this is a tiny % of the people and they make so much noise others get caught up in it.
[1:14 pm, 22/06/2022] +BL: Some people just want to disrupt. I'm not sure we should give them such a large platform to spread their voices.
[1:14 pm, 22/06/2022] +BL: Although it can lead to violence. Look at Jan 6 in the US
[1:15 pm, 22/06/2022] +BL: 👍
[1:15 pm, 22/06/2022] +BL: Self regulation is not effective
[1:16 pm, 22/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Double edge sword..
you give them a platform to get their voices heard.
Sometimes lead to unwanted consequences.
Similar totally stamping out, we won’t know the under current as well as we should. As it has been cleanse by policy. Till it is too late.
[1:17 pm, 22/06/2022] +BL: It's not stamping out though. They can still set up local action groups etc, it's just to ensure their voices are not being sent anonymously and unregulated to vulnerable groups.
[1:17 pm, 22/06/2022] +BL: The problem with social media is that it is engineered for hate because angry people are more likely to click on ads.
[1:18 pm, 22/06/2022] +Ken Loh: They group people by interest… hence greater draw and connection 😅
[1:18 pm, 22/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Will always show content that are relevant to the person
[1:18 pm, 22/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Further solidify the persons view
[1:18 pm, 22/06/2022] +BL: https://www.cityam.com/outrage-most-profitable-emotion-so-advertisers-trying-make/
[1:19 pm, 22/06/2022] +BL: Outrage creates ad dollars.
[1:19 pm, 22/06/2022] +BL: Yes, customised feeds that no one else kmows they are seeing.
[1:20 pm, 22/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Good for business due to the engagement 😅
[1:20 pm, 22/06/2022] +BL: And not good for an inclusive society
[1:20 pm, 22/06/2022] +BL: These customised feeds create fragmentation.
[1:23 pm, 22/06/2022] +RH: AI or anything using computer... for logic & stuff tt need analysis / analytics.
Human touch needed for all the "unseen", "implied", abstract, in-between stuff.
Needs both.
[1:28 pm, 22/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
1. Social media is a double-edged sword.
It is an instrument that can do good.
Conversely, people with bad intent can use it to do bad stuff.
Social media can do good
2. Social media for example can be used to :-
a. Provide education - whereby courseware are put into social media, share research and development work. Eg. Youtube show step by step how to setup, configure IT equipment, software development and many other stuff - that social media can upgrade their skills.
b. Enable communication and help people to keep in touch- eg. whatsapp, telegram, zoom etc allow many users to communicate effectively and cheaply with relatives, friends and make new friends and even use for business commnuication.
c. Promote good ideas, educating people with good values, can even share ideas, that can help Governments to implement policies that benefit their people.
Eg. Whatsapp REACH to reach out to people to solicit ideas.
Post in overseas forum to suggest ideas whereby foreign Government can latch on them to benefit not only their people but also the World.
d. Users can make use of social media to promote their products and services - a new means to make a living eg. Youtubers, using instagram, facebook, tik tok etc to sell their products and services to earn income.
e. Social media platform create IT jobs - eg. expertise in clouds, data centre, IT infrastructure and system, software developers, cybersecurity, platform administrators, social media moderators etc..
Social media platform like Facebook Meta, Tik Tok etc has setup shops in Singapore and create many IT jobs.
f. Social media platform - is a means for connecting and communication with the World - with instantaneous news, information - to keep people inform.
and many other benefits ....
[1:30 pm, 22/06/2022] +BL: Do the positives listed above rely on social media? Would website provide the same result?
[1:31 pm, 22/06/2022] +BL: I do agree that F is a benefit from social media, but platform can do that without enabling manipulation of their audience.
[1:32 pm, 22/06/2022] +BL: The Great Hack https://g.co/kgs/nYquBe This is a good example of how social media abused its customers!
[1:32 pm, 22/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Website is one means - but lack interactive capabilities.
Also not easy to post multimedia such as video, video communication, voice communication etc.
[1:33 pm, 22/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Web also can be manipulated by posting fake malicious information.
[1:33 pm, 22/06/2022] +BL: Lots of websites are interactive and offer the ability to post
[1:34 pm, 22/06/2022] +BL: Yes, but then it's visible to everyone. Customised feeds are not
[1:34 pm, 22/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Web like social media is just a platform.
It depends on how it is used.
[1:35 pm, 22/06/2022] +BL: Agreed. The SM platforms provide anonymity and the ability to communicate unregulated.
[1:43 pm, 22/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Social media can do bad stuff
1. Conversely, social media can be exploited by people with bad intent who want to scam, promote negative values such as terrorism, sexual content, gambling, negative political manipulation, fake news, youth challenges eg. doing dangerous stunt, suicide, cyber bullying etc.
2. Youth who are at their formative age - can be adversely influence.
3. Hence I support the Government effort to formulate guidelines and rules to rein in on the bad effects of social media.
Getting social media platform operators to do censorship on harmful contents, do moderation and self-regulation ---- is a good ways to ensure that bad actors cannot put bad stuff into the social media --- and only good contents get air in the social media platform - so that users as a whole can benefit from it.
4. Notice that Government all over the World are formulating policies to regulate social media - eg. US, EU, China etc.
[1:45 pm, 22/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心: https://news.google.com/articles/CBMieGh0dHBzOi8vd3d3LnNjbXAuY29tL3RlY2gvdGVjaC10cmVuZHMvYXJ0aWNsZS8zMTgyNDgyL2NoaW5hLXBsYW5zLXJldmlldy1ldmVyeS1zaW5nbGUtc29jaWFsLW1lZGlhLWNvbW1lbnQtc3BhcmtpbmctbW9yZdIBeGh0dHBzOi8vYW1wLnNjbXAuY29tL3RlY2gvdGVjaC10cmVuZHMvYXJ0aWNsZS8zMTgyNDgyL2NoaW5hLXBsYW5zLXJldmlldy1ldmVyeS1zaW5nbGUtc29jaWFsLW1lZGlhLWNvbW1lbnQtc3BhcmtpbmctbW9yZQ?hl=en-SG&gl=SG&ceid=SG%3Aen
China plans to review every single social media comment, sparking more censorship fears.
China’s internet watchdog has proposed that social platforms review all user comments before publishing.
The draft also proposes for the first time that the person who uploads a post is also responsible for the comments made by others.
[1:49 pm, 22/06/2022] +Valli: 👏
[1:50 pm, 22/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
The power of social media.
[2:05 pm, 22/06/2022] +Rama: Dictator censorship
[2:06 pm, 22/06/2022] +Smiley face: What's ahead? It will become highly individualistic (I), redefined personal identity (ID) and to each a PD (personal device) that will sum up who we are, each and everyone, young to old - a question to think harder that is "conveniences, competitions and consequences?"
[2:07 pm, 22/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Well, as long as you post your comments that are well meaning - even though if don't toe their official line - it will not be censored.
[2:08 pm, 22/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
In fact some well meaning comments are taken up and implemented.
[2:18 pm, 22/06/2022] +Smiley face: We stand at the beginning of a new era. What was once science fiction is fsdt becoming reality; as AI transforms war, crime, justice, jobs and society - and, even, our very sense of what it means to be human. More than any other technology, AI has the potential to revolutionize our collective future and there's nobody better situated to explore that future - the inevitable metaverses!
- - Max Tegmark
[2:19 pm, 22/06/2022] +Abdrew Ang: Fully agreed
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[2:43 pm, 22/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
See well meaning post will not be censored even though it is contrary to the official line.
[2:59 pm, 22/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Another past example of what social media can do.
[3:40 pm, 22/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
This posting in social media is implemented by President Jokowi - and help to solve the smoke emitted from plantation by clearing lands for planting crops.
[3:47 pm, 22/06/2022] +BL: Social Media didn't do this? Not sure what you mean.
[3:48 pm, 22/06/2022] +BL: It could have been put in a newspaper, or the side of a bus or on a website.
[3:49 pm, 22/06/2022] +BL: Can I ask why you are posting these?
[3:49 pm, 22/06/2022] +BL: I may have missed the context
[3:49 pm, 22/06/2022] +BL: The fact you are posting on Whatsapp goes to support the point that we are not reliant on Social Media to share information.
[3:50 pm, 22/06/2022] +BL: Social Media can be harmful because of the customised feeds that keep messages hidden from large numbers of the population and can stir up anger and hatred, without proper debate because the messages are not available to everyone.
[3:52 pm, 22/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Social media can shape good behaviour - even in the international space - if used wisely.
Because even foreign leaders are humans just like us.
[4:10 pm, 22/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Because social media can 尽虚空，遍法界。(traverse in the virtual world across all boundaries and hierarchies) - to deliver the right messages to the right persons) - cutting all bureaucracies real time, online in a safe environment - to bring fruition of a wholesome outcome.
[4:18 pm, 22/06/2022] +BL: The point is that SM has customised feeds, whereas public communication doesn't which means everyone knows what is being said. We don't need SM to share positive messages.
[4:18 pm, 22/06/2022] +BL: The same as a website then.
[4:20 pm, 22/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Social media platforms operators know the contents.
Hence they must do self moderation - the crux of this topic.
[4:21 pm, 22/06/2022] +BL: Clearly they don't because they are driven by profit, not social responsibility.
[4:22 pm, 22/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Thus the purpose of government stepping in to enforce.
Just like what US, EU government do to Twitter, Facebook, YouTube etc
[4:24 pm, 22/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Yup profit company don’t do extra for the better of the community is more for image and if government policy force them. Then they will comply
[4:24 pm, 22/06/2022] +Smiley face: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/05/congress-demands-mark-zuckerberg-answer-questions-at-haugen-hearing.html
[4:24 pm, 22/06/2022] +BL: How do they do that? I can't find anything on SM companies having their content regulated.
[4:26 pm, 22/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Can't be banning a tool just because it is double edged.
A knife cut food but also can kill.
But can't ban knife just because they can kill.
[4:26 pm, 22/06/2022] +BL: We ban drugs.
[4:26 pm, 22/06/2022] +BL: We ban lots of things actually....
[4:27 pm, 22/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Which everyone agreed in general it is good for the country and accepted
[4:27 pm, 22/06/2022] +BL: This is what the new EU Digital Markets Act addresses: Big Tech firms deemed “gatekeepers” can no longer rank their own products or services higher than those of others; reuse private data collected during a service for the purposes of another service; establish unfair conditions for business users; pre-install certain software applications; or require app developers to use certain services like payment systems or identity providers in order to be listed in app stores.
[4:27 pm, 22/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Lol but we also unban gambling casino 🤣
[4:27 pm, 22/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Hahaha...
Well for social media - my take is - let it be used but regulate.
[4:27 pm, 22/06/2022] +BL: lol not everyone agrees. I do, but not everyone else does.
[4:28 pm, 22/06/2022] +BL: I agree and don't want to ban SM, but I don't know how to regulate it
[4:28 pm, 22/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Oh well.. to a certain extend 😂
Better than seeing zombie in the day time.. if they are not illegal
[4:28 pm, 22/06/2022] +BL: or likely enforce the regulation
[4:29 pm, 22/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Social media is also a tool for us to profit from.. and to be aware of the world.
The general public use lots of social media. In future maybe METAverse. Hence getting exposure to let be left out in future
[4:30 pm, 22/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Let the government with the relevant expertise do it.
Foreign governments also have implemented similar - we can see how to apply and adapt.
[4:31 pm, 22/06/2022] +BL: No one is regulating SM, at least I can't find a government that is successfully
[4:31 pm, 22/06/2022] +BL: Maybe China's approach is the only way!
[4:31 pm, 22/06/2022] +Ken Loh: Like china ban for the sake of country security… and provide time for local company to catch up to the trend.
[4:31 pm, 22/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Yes agreed.
Social media has many plus factors as well as minus factors.
Government job is exploits the plus and reduce the minus.
[5:19 pm, 22/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Singapore is an open economy.
We connect and communicate with the world either for business, for work and for social interaction.
We cannot afford to ban social media platforms.
The moment we do this, business, investors, talents etc will leave.
Hence it is wiser for us to continue to use social media platforms to reap the benefits - but regulate them to mitigate the negative factors.
[5:23 pm, 22/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Also technically we can't really ban the social media platforms.
For example, government may block it with firewalls, content filtering.
But it can be easily bypass - by using VPN to tunnel and encrypt then decrypt the social media platforms.
Firewall and content filtering can't filter encrypted VPN.
[5:32 pm, 22/06/2022] +Smiley face: https://mothership.sg/2022/06/son-body-hdb-flat/?utm_source=tele&utm_medium=referral
[5:35 pm, 22/06/2022] +Smiley face: Perhaps this old lady only dependant and sole breadwinner, her son is gone...
Tomorrow comes, could the resident committee frequent visits helps?
[5:39 pm, 22/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Because only social media platforms operators can remove the contents in their portal and servers.
Our government cannot do it.
[6:11 pm, 22/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Because social media platforms server IP address and content are encapsulated by the ESP (encapsulated security payload) and the valid VPN server IP address is appended to the ESP.
When our government firewall check this packet, the IP address is a VPN server not the social media platform.
Then when the content filtering device check the packet payload - there are all encrptyed content which look like garbage - since government firewall and content filter don't have the right encryption key to unlock the packet.
So firewall and content filtering device will let this packet pass to our users.
Our users will use their SSL VPN client with the right digital certificate and encryption key to decrypt the social media platforms IP address and content and then access the social media platforms.
Unless the encryption key can be decrypted or crack (else government cannot do anything).
Maybe quantum computing, qubit, superposition, quantum entanglement - but legal issues will come in.
Also technology still in infancy
[6:46 pm, 22/06/2022] +REACH: Dear Contributors,
⏰ We will be closing the chat in 15 minutes ⏰
Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Goodnight!
Megan
[6:52 pm, 22/06/2022] +~N: It is certainly good to ensure that publicly disseminated information are true and correct. Many things lie somewhere between truths, half truths, misconceptions or myths. Even if you control, info meant to misguide would still find a way
[6:57 pm, 22/06/2022] +Boon: Dear REACH, improving online safety and social media safety standards make sense. It is the detail and holistic considerations that can be more important including; if Social Media will be monitoring all video and text messages, does it still mean they will be able to sell these users' data to 3rd party marketers? What are the meaningful safeguards to ensure their safeguard of Singapore personal data that they will be collecting? Amongst the countries mentioned as having similar safeguards - like Germany and EU - they have very strict personal data regulations and requirements on Social Media. How's Singapore safeguards?
[6:59 pm, 22/06/2022] +Smiley face: 22 June, 2022
To: Our Distinguished Ministers, Agencies and All Honorable Members
"those precious and innocent years...Legal Age and Mental Age?"
- - annoymous
Ideal choice-
There is existing legal age to drink alcohol, to smoke, to vote, to drive vehicles, sign a legal contract, to marry and to serve the nation?
Perhaps there should be a minimum age for the purchasing of a powerful and smarter personal phone or Internet devices like Ipad or notebook? 16 yrs and above or 18 years and above?
Should there be a legal age imposed on children or teenagers, what is the appropriate and mature age to allow the younger ones to buy these smart devices? What's the scientifically known minimum age of mental maturity besides knowing that girls mature early than boys do?
If one purpose of children or teens owning these communication devices is to be contactable with parents or school friends. Perhaps a simpler phone that dials and sms is enough?
Competing choices-
One counter argument would likely be to introduce digitech and to allow early age of adopting these new technologies like Internet for education and research purposes. If an age limit should applies, will it compromises into the competitiveness of a knowledge based nation like Singapore? Will it affects the entire cohort learning curve of our students, the first 10 years of formal education?
The second harder task would be from the manufacturers of these connecting devices and those content providers, all are primarily seeking for profits. What will be the likely outcomes if a nation adopts a minimum legal age for owning such electronic devices, what are the impacts?
It seems that authorities of many developed nations are chasing these unreachable stars of hopeful and legislated rules to counter such cyber intruders or bullies. Many hopes to combat all undesirables and or offensive posts on the WWW are not proving to be smarter than the scam culprits themselves often in hiding?
Smarter choices?
"hand a pistol to a child, one day he or she will play with it, cork it and shoot?"
- - annoymous
Dealing with fact or fake, right or wrong. Are children and younger teens able to critically think whenever materials presented on digital platforms with it written or videos or games? How would they perceived these 24/7 bombardment of funs or facts or fakes or combined, worse of all are wrong ideas that would profoundly influenced our emerging young ones that perhaps all of these presented in the personal screen are acceptable lifestyles, choices and opinions from the mountains of misinformation or under information or disinformation.
In this moment of the digital age, teaching correct values at home and a child and parent relationship is ever important in order to foster a healthy and open channel of communication and understand a child's thoughts and thinkings. How parenting would likely be challenged as each day goes by and each year a child grows older and closer to metaversing the entire Internet into a whole new experiences?
What's ahead? It will become highly individualistic (I), redefined personal identity (ID) and to each a PD (personal device) that will sum up who we are, each and everyone, young to old that is - if we were to look back say 10 years from today, are we human enough or are we losing that human touch to all these AIs & PDs or one day AI will replace critical thinking, what people saying, "one click and it will be done?" A question to think harder that is "conveniences, competitions and consequences?"
Afterwords
Mark Zuckerberg showed prototype headsets to build support for his metaverse bet
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/21/mark-zuckerberg-shows-early-metaverse-headsets-mirror-lake-holocake.html?__source=androidappshare
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[7:00 pm, 22/06/2022] +REACH: Dear Contributors,
We will be closing the chat for today.
Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Goodnight!
Megan 😊
[7:01 pm, 22/06/2022] +Boon: What is "harmful content" can be subjective, and people/individuals/parties can be casted and accused wrongly, leading them to bear the consequences for life. Together with these Codes, should the authorities also address the "Cancel Culture" that is already amplified by social media?
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[5:39 pm, 22/06/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Assume government ban social media platforms - and people use VPN to bypass the ban - then even if government inform social media operators to remove the contents - they won't do so.
So if terrorism content continue to be hosted - our government will not be able to do anything - then we all die.
But if we engage social media platforms operators to continue to use them, we still can regulate them and ensure our security are safeguarded.
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