REACH 273 - How can Singapore better support our local workforce while reaping the benefits of an open economy (SK)
15 Sep 2021 (10am - 7pm)
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[10:14 am, 15/09/2021] +REACH: ๐ข Topic ๐ข
Members of Parliament from both sides of the House engaged in a robust debate on two motions in Parliament yesterday (14 Sep). Finance Minister Lawrence Wong had tabled a motion in response to a separate motion filed by NCMP Leong Mun Wai, to set out the Government's position on Singaporeans' jobs and livelihoods.
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Minister Lawrence Wong’s speech focussed on how the Government has always been about securing jobs and better lives for Singaporeans, and stressed the importance of staying connected to the world while supporting workers who are displaced.
Mr Leong's motion was centred on Singapore's foreign talent policy. He contended that the Government had allowed in large numbers of foreign workers through FTA like CECA, and this was done at the expense of Singaporeans’ livelihoods. He called on the Government to “restore some balance” to the job market such as by doubling the qualifying salaries for work pass holders.
In a debate lasting more than 10 hours, 20 MPs and NMPs delivered speeches in response to the motions. Manpower Minister Tan See Leng rose to emphasise the importance of Singapore staying open. He added that Singapore has seen an even larger increase in the employment of local professionals, managers, executives and technicians (PMETs), even as the number of foreign PMETs has risen.
Senior Minister of State for Foreign Affairs and National Development Sim Ann also reiterated that the Government has no "special affinity" for workers from any country - including India - and works to serve Singaporeans' interests.
๐ Key Highlights from the Parl Debate https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/7-key-highlights-from-parliamentary-debate-on-jobs-and-livelihoods-spores-foreign
๐ https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/robust-debate-in-parliament-over-foreign-competition-in-job-market
๐ https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/spores-open-economy-has-created-not-lost-more-good-jobs-for-singaporeans-lawrence
๐ https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/psp-ncmp-tan-see-leng-debate-whether-jobs-were-created-or-reclassified
๐ https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/spore-has-no-special-affinity-for-workers-from-any-country-including-india-sim
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[10:27 am, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: in todays world no country can afford to close up -> this is a general yes globally, the focus which as a society we should look at maybe besides the private sectors is the civil sector to built a true core team of locals like in defense and science ...
[10:28 am, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: the general feel for civil is only the top brains in academic will have future, academic is only a stepping stone and door opener, how the person grows requires experiences
[10:31 am, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: for import talents there should be more stringent requirements espically for position like sales -> this can be purely seen in financial where institutions do transfer of staff not of management or core level which comes along the real skillsets and experienced
[10:31 am, 15/09/2021] +Alvin Lim: Seems like the gov doesn't want to address the elephant in the room: Covid. I want to see when we hit 1k daily cases what moves will the MMTF take. Remember covid has long lasting effects, an entire generation of covi stricken victims will require more healthcare and increased health costs on society.
[10:33 am, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: for Technology aspect, singapore should relook at the direction which we groom our local boys and gers with more opportunties with not only local sme but with mncs
[10:36 am, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: frankly the rate at which why the ceca issues was brought up was the suddenly and ever growing presence of x nation ppl who have cause social uncomfortable partially because of cultural and mindset, in fact it applies to all who come in here to work. migrants workers (yes not using the talent word here due to personnel reason), should have the mindset to behave and accept the nroms of a country / place they are going to be in. just like as tourist to a country we respect the Norms / laws / culture of a place NOT impose our home land beliefs/ culture / society norms
[10:37 am, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: it is such mindset that cause social discord and naturally being the born to the land breed, local people will feel offend and threaten
[10:39 am, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: in short open of economy was never an issue espically at this era but the essence of society takes 2 hands to clap : local breed have to accept BUT more importantly the external beings coming have to learn to gel in the society without disturbing the existing social norm / law / regulation just because they had been running things in certain 'their way' back home
[10:41 am, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: if need to maybe should designed some form of social assessment for them during their so call employment period here, who knows we might help their mother country educated them as better people ...... after all we had been known as a strict and no nonsense country and we should not bend our back to the world
[10:46 am, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: the direction i think is pretty clear: live with it hahahahahhaa
[10:46 am, 15/09/2021] +Valli: MOE should look into revamping the syllabus / subjects in schools & introduce Techno subjects from a young age in primary schools onwards. More hands on & training to be implemented in primary schools.
To implement e-learning & reduce textbooks & paper usage.
All students to be equipped with laptop from primary schools.
[10:47 am, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: such might have a counter effect
[10:48 am, 15/09/2021] +Valli: Spore is capable & can fine tune it effectively to benefit the education system
[10:48 am, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: school should in my view be the place and the starting point to inject good culture for any individual to have a thirst for knowledge with good basic building blocks in the core areas like language / maths / science / geography / history (this is such a impt subject but many treat it like excess) / social studies ....
[10:49 am, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: in secondary yes i agree inject technology (basic and basis) as part of the subject
[10:49 am, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: it takes generation to churn out a certain type of work force and is better we do it sooner than later
[10:50 am, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: frankly when did our technology students start
[10:50 am, 15/09/2021] +Valli: Going forward , we should expect E-disruptions in the education sector
[10:50 am, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: from what i understand Ngee ann was the first to have computer studies but i cannot remember the yr
[10:51 am, 15/09/2021] +Valli: This should be done sooner, implement & progress from there.
[10:51 am, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: from then till now look at the amount of higher school and pte school offering technology courses .. have we not churn out enuff professionals. thus shift focus next industry, what is wrong with the industry what repel such professional to be to join? money of cos is one
[10:52 am, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: besides that what else opportunities? opportunities is not abt climbing rather is the door to be made open
[10:52 am, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: those who thing technology is still about 1 role 1 person u are wrong
[10:53 am, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: many companies expect a technoology person to be jack of of trades, which many are not up to the job
[10:54 am, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: same like X country so call technology person they are usually studied in one field and when they run into certain problem like cannot access web site, application failed to run, system error they go bonkers ....
[10:56 am, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: whereas in singapore our studies for technology studies were expose to multi discipline of studies (in the past) is only after grad student make their choice of specialist and grew from their with their employment. now we gear studies into streams of discipline based on their ''preferences'' at the point of starting their poly or uni career what these students know about the outside world and needs
[10:56 am, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: a good example nyp used to have gaming and multimedia focus course ... see what happen to the industry ..... pity those folks
[10:58 am, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: sometimes as a grey generation i pity the next and next generation due to varies reason , worshipping of outside world and social norms while forgetting your own social eco system
[10:59 am, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: politically not aware of how this country was from, built and how to sustain .....
[10:59 am, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: thus leading to diversion of to be professional and talents drain to other countries
[11:00 am, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: like in all modern society our issue is not new and neither is one platform .. is interlinked
[11:01 am, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: want to tackle it the brains ontop have to dive deeper and face reality away from political reason for the common good of the society which call Home ....
[11:03 am, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: again opening of economy is much welcome still in singapore and by many ... is the elements which we hope to have that is of questions that causes social discomfort
[11:28 am, 15/09/2021] +REACH: After 10-hour debate on foreign labour, motion on securing Singaporeans’ jobs passed in Parliament
SINGAPORE: Parliament on Wednesday (Sep 15) passed a motion by Finance Minister Lawrence Wong on securing Singaporeans’ jobs and livelihoods, and rejected a competing motion by Progress Singapore Party (PSP) member Leong Mun Wai, after a marathon debate that started on Tuesday afternoon and carried on past midnight.
More:
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/foreign-talent-ceca-jobs-psp-pap-parliament-motion-2178021
[11:28 am, 15/09/2021] +REACH: Sinovac to supply additional 101,000 doses of COVID-19 vaccine for Singapore
SINGAPORE: Sinovac will supply Singapore with another 101,000 doses of its COVID-19 vaccine, the company said on Wednesday (Sep 15).
More:
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/sinovac-covid-19-vaccine-singapore-livingstone-health-2178501
[11:32 am, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: what about sinopharm and if the ministry had started work if booster jab can be mixed
[11:41 am, 15/09/2021] +Stan: On the job thingy, a lot of my colleagues i spoke too, agreed that Mr. Pritam Singh’s speech was most meaningful.
[11:42 am, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: one point that exist is there is no doubt the population of singapore workers does feel insecure
[11:43 am, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: study so hard then become what grab driver, food delivery with promising earning of 8k? JOKE right go ask those who are in the industry .. u will know the truth!
[11:44 am, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: yes 8k can get u a specialist or mgt role with hard work too but at least one feel value because of your education background and past expereinces
[11:44 am, 15/09/2021] +REACH: Seniors urged to avoid social interactions for 2 weeks amid surge in Covid-19 cases
All seniors aged 60 and above and those living with them have been urged to minimise social interactions in the next two weeks amid a spike in the number of daily Covid-19 cases to the highest in over a year.
More: https://str.sg/3SM7
[11:46 am, 15/09/2021] +Stan: The feeling that this govt just ‘rambo’ ahead with policies may be the issues, it seems not to be able to shake off the notion that the people are not qualified to voice a view. So i hope the decision surrounding the covid isnt like that as well. ‘Where the lives of many, rest on decision made by a few’
[11:46 am, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: the keyword Urge -> trust me WILL NOT happen .. due to 1) people are stubborn 2) local mentally they will try to break the system and proved that U are wrong 3) we have too many smart arse locally 4) the seriousness of the situtaion is not really highlighted
[11:47 am, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: if the objective is really to save lives and keep our resources in tact a more iron fist approach needs to be enforce
[11:47 am, 15/09/2021] +RH: Yes.
Wat happened to getting every child in board in using technology?
I remember >20 years ago, at the turn of the century, ther was a sudden enthusiasm to get all primary & sec sch to catch up on tech by learning basic computer skills from how to turn on the PC to using basic everyday programs like MS Word, Ppt, Excel.
These days, I see kids who know nothing abt using PC, much less abt using such basics for everyday work.
... (Very smart at using hp to play games tho) ...
If we want our next gen to be tech savvy enuff to keep up w the rat race when they grow up, then we shd incorporate such basic tech skills as part of the regular curriculum, rather than leave it as a CCA of interest - and let only those who join the computer club learn - while the rest of the sch popn remain clueless abt using Word, Excel, Ppt.
In short, even giving one period 3x a week for students to hv hands on learning to learn how to use the computer properly for every day purposes wl go a long way to prep them for meeting the challenges of the adult world in future.
Not wait till they're in Sec sch, when ther r more new subjects to be learnt.
By the time they get to Sec sch, they shd be made to apply these basic tools to their daily homework, like typing out their essays, doing presentations, using spreadsheets to do complicated problem sums... etc.
In short, education starts from young.
Why r being reactive again, having employers say our ppl r 'not prepared', or there is 'no talent'?
Answer is : We hv forgotten to nurture them from young!
So, in summary, make computer learning a part of the sch curriculum, so tt they won't be so blur when they go out to work & need to go on Skills future training for even basic computer skills.
[11:48 am, 15/09/2021] +Alvin Lim: Sadly it’s the elephant in the room not address
[11:49 am, 15/09/2021] +Alvin Lim: Don’t put too much hope
[11:49 am, 15/09/2021] +Caleb: Then WFH shld be default
[11:49 am, 15/09/2021] +Alvin Lim: Take care of yourself and love ones cos the gov doesn’t
[11:49 am, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: cos there is always economy to weight one and pressure by the business ......
[11:50 am, 15/09/2021] +RH: Our education system can be adjusted.
Keep a balance of all subjects of relevance.
Inculcate the 'right' values in our next gen, from young, as we hv always done.
[11:50 am, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: add in one more SOCIETY ALSO DUN BLOODY CARE !hahahahahaha
[11:51 am, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: from young, as we hv always done. -> this one i have my reservation since the education system starts to change from the 2000's and espically with the recent way of how kindergarden and lower primary are structure
[11:52 am, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: before values can be induce and grow i think more kids go IMH
[11:52 am, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: due to the way certain subjects are taught now hahahaha surprise teacher dun have mental break down
[11:56 am, 15/09/2021] +Alvin Lim: Yeah it’s every man for himself
[11:57 am, 15/09/2021] +RH: I think we shd do a hybrid learning, meaning half tech, half hard copy.
So tt the young still know the difference.
Not everyone is suited to tech.
Those who cannot use tech or don't hv access to it may be left behind. Again, we dun wan to leave anyone behind, if we can help it.
The recent move by MOE to issue each student w a laptop is a good one.
However, many students dun know how to make full use of it for their studies (hence my suggestion on basic every day tech skills for work) , other than to Zoom, hv Google classroom, play games.
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[11:58 am, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: and this is what is very disturbing about Singapore not going to compare with the rest of the world... social issue yet we have that 3% that treat it well is NOT my issue the 97% can do what is told I AM NOT GOING TO DO IT
[0:33 pm, 15/09/2021] +RH: Yes, I see a lot of ppl these days, esp seniors, out & abt, and half-masked , ie. wearing the masks below their noses, instead of covering them!
Someone shd educate these ppl ! Or r they stubborn old goats?
I've also seen FDW doing same.
Like I said b4, ppl r letting their guard down... ๐คฆ๐ผ♀️
[0:46 pm, 15/09/2021] +Suma pamu: +1
[0:46 pm, 15/09/2021] +Suma pamu: +1
[0:46 pm, 15/09/2021] +Suma pamu: +1
[0:47 pm, 15/09/2021] +Suma pamu: +1
[0:48 pm, 15/09/2021] +REACH: ➡️ S'pore kicks off Covid-19 vaccine booster programme for seniors
SINGAPORE - Singapore kicks off its national Covid-19 vaccine booster programme on Wednesday (Sept 15), with more than 100 seniors having taken their shot at one of the many centres islandwide.
More: https://str.sg/3SQU
➡️ Dorm operators to select eligible workers for visits to Little India under pilot scheme
With just 500 workers being allowed to visit Little India each week as part of a long-delayed pilot scheme that kicked off on Wednesday (Sept 15), the onus will be on dormitory operators to select eligible workers who can go out into the community.
More: https://str.sg/3SMH
[0:50 pm, 15/09/2021] +REACH: ➡️ Job vacancies in Singapore hit record high of 92,100 in June: MOM
SINGAPORE - Border restrictions and manpower demand in growth sectors have pushed job vacancies in Singapore to an all-time high of 92,100 in June, according to the Ministry of Manpower on Wednesday (Sept 15).
More: https://str.sg/3SME
➡️ Retrenchments in S'pore rose slightly in Q2, with more on short work weeks, temporary layoffs
SINGAPORE - Singapore's labour market took a hit from tightened Covid-19 restrictions in the second quarter of this year, as retrenchments rose slightly compared with the first quarter, and more people were placed on short work weeks or temporary layoffs.
More: https://str.sg/3SMu
[0:54 pm, 15/09/2021] +RH: Is it just me or does it look like ther is an imbalance in the job market?
Ther r vacancies, yet ther r still layoffs ...
So, can sth be done to help transition or re train the layoffs to find work in a diff industry?
[0:55 pm, 15/09/2021] +Suma pamu: Whole Education system need to adjusted/tweaked.
This is what i mentioned other day..
Focus on history social studies along with Maths and Science is much needed, especially during primary levels
For MT Focus more on Oral than Extensive writing Compos/comprehensions.
And General awarenes and General Knowledge about All aspects of live should be instroduced in Primary level.
And mostly Give the Oppertunity for locals who Enter to JC And to Uni easier way.
To attract MNC degrees does matter. (If i am wrong please correct me with data)
Exmp How many MNC s hired Poly graduated holders With same salary as The one FT who came up with Bachelor cert/master cert.
Why making It sooo difficult to enter into JC and then UNI
How many middle/low income Families afford t…
[0:57 pm, 15/09/2021] +RH: Dun forget to include basic computer knowledge & skills for everyday use!
[1:22 pm, 15/09/2021] +Suma pamu: Yes That's deffinatly needed
[1:34 pm, 15/09/2021] +Suma pamu: Also For Hdb There is EIP in place ..
But when comes to Rentals also Condo sale and Rental
There is No such thing as EIP.
So what i observed is many places One particular nationality people are living (either Rent/own)
When Locals Visit that particular places first time, deffinatly they feel Something wrong!!
There should be Stricter policies pertaining to this, if not sg we will face much more issues!
[1:34 pm, 15/09/2021] +Suma pamu: Hdb Rentals also NO EIP
Only Foreigners quota is there, but i don't think its enough..
[1:36 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: Is ok they live in one place at pte area even with EIP but their mindset do not change when in society it does not help
[1:37 pm, 15/09/2021] +Suma pamu: Agree
But making it Easier for Congregation might not be wise idea,
[1:42 pm, 15/09/2021] +Valli: Yes agree
Mr Pritam Singh’s comments are valid & reflects the real situation
[1:43 pm, 15/09/2021] +RH: The gov shd adopt the approach...
SG citizen first...
Even if the person doesn't know how to do the job but has the potential,
the company shd hire, train & groom our locals first ...
Not leave it to the foreign PMET to do the training!
Do u think the foreign national wud be interested to train someone else to take over his/her rice bowl?
Honestly! ๐ค
Put some guidelines in place to ensure tt ther is succession planning within the coy, to a local...
Dun keep looking outward.
Increasing min wage is just one end of the stick.
I'm sure ppl wl find a way to circumvent this & still manage to find an excuse to look outward for foreign talent, instead of giving chance to the locals.
The whole system needs a shake up...
From education to train future talent
To improving workplace practices.
[1:44 pm, 15/09/2021] +RH: Pritam Singh's speech made the most sense ytd.
[1:48 pm, 15/09/2021] +Alvin Lim: Yes, myself and my friends agree with his speech as well.
[1:52 pm, 15/09/2021] +Boon: Dear MOM, it is inevitable that global companies will bring in foreigner employees for many good reasons. However, ever since Singapore has started welcoming these skilled experts into Singapore, how have Singaporeans been exposed to gain practical experiences - get up to steam - such that over time, Singaporeans would have also be able to do these jobs just as well if not better? What is it that these foreign experts have, that today’s and the future working Singaporeans still don’t/won’t have even after Sg’s decades of bringing in foreigners and despite our vaunted academic education system? To be clear, policies should not be about creating jobs only for Singaporeans. It should be how Singaporeans can gain deep practical experience to be dynamically competitive in a global hub. As a leg up, opportunities for Singaporeans to gain “hard knocks” valuable experiences is likely to require conscious policy support.
[1:55 pm, 15/09/2021] +Boon: Poaching talents (from afar) is a motivation and reward for people who excel in their fields, however it should not be a long term play for a lack of skills - if not the broader Singapore standard of skills will always remain mediocre.
[2:15 pm, 15/09/2021] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Main Points
Part 1 - Technology disruption leading to job loss
- local mature workers ill equipped
- local business caught offguard
- business not training staff
- ITM is the antidote to Tech disruption
Part 2 - need An institutionalise adult Uni/Poly to retrain, internship and do placement
- need training pay to retrenched sustain living when training
- Business need to be actively involved in such train and placement program
Part 3 - Foreign talents and workers and students role in Industrialisation 4.0
- Infusion of talents in leading edge technologies, systems, process, services, procedures and new thinking
Part 4 - Education programme - English, mother tongue, Math and Science - the strong foundation in Primary School.
Computer Technology/Programming - must be introduced to Secondary, JC, Poly and Uni.
Part 5 - Response to the current high infection number and balancing the Economy and jobs
[2:25 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ben: I am joining this late so haven't read all the comments. I'm in France right now, and the reaction to covid is very different. There is reasonable precaution but not an obsession with it. People go about the lives much more than at home. I'm not saying one is right because Singapore has very different needs and environment.
[2:26 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ben: Singapore needs to live with covid and not get fixated on daily numbers of cases. Clearly keeping people safe has to be balanced with personal responsibility and keeping our country economically sound.
[2:27 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ben: One thing our gov is particularly good at is focusing on the bigger long term goals.
[2:27 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ben: We do need to rethink our education system, as discussed here before.
[2:28 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ben: But the connection to industry and commerce is excellent
[2:29 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ben: I agree that we need to be more international and help Singaporeans get more experience abroad and think internationally
[2:30 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ben: ๐
[2:31 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ben: This just represents changes in commercial needs. Some companies expand, other contract.
[2:32 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ben: ๐
[2:35 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ben: What made Singapore successful was inward investment, due to low taxes, open markets, dedicated workers, stable gov, good infrastructure, non secular policies, low crime etc. Without that inward investment we would be dependent on our neighbours and their fickle politics.
[2:36 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ben: Singapore is independent, but still relies on international relations and investment to keep progressing. We are small and have limited resources. We must maintain close ties with overseas businesses, and bring in expertise to keep us current.
[2:37 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ben: Going down a nationalist route is a recipe for disaster. Look at Britain. They have suffered and will continue to suffer due to their nationalist Brexit policies.
[2:38 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ben: Same is the US under Trump
[3:30 pm, 15/09/2021] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Part 1 - Technology disruption leading to job loss and business disrupted
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1. Many people mistakenly thought that foreign talents and workers take away many local jobs leading to mature workers losing jobs during the 2010 to 2020.
2. Actually it is a misconception.
3. The real reason is "Technology Disruption" - whereby local workers are caught offguard, business got disrupted and caught offguard and foreign talents working alongside us - also equally caught offguard.
4. Business got affected and quite loss how to reform their business to face the challenge of disruptive tech.
5. Local workers got loss - also don't know what to train in to ride on the wave of disruptive tech as business scramble to restructure. Thus business don't send staff for training as the business are grappling how to restructure and what to restructure.
6. Hence, many business retrenched staff as business revenue got hit, and for those business who managed to restructure - will employ fresh graduates that are trained to do the new jobs.
7. What are the tech that disrupt the business and workers' skillsets :-
a. Banking - fintech, digital banking, blockchain, ePayment like grabs, alipay, QR code etc - replacing traditional onsite banking
b. 3D printing - replacing traditional manufacturing.
c. Prefab construction - replacing brick build construction.
d. Cloud, virtualisation mobile apps, big data, machine learning, AI. IoT etc- replacing system integration, web apps development, client-server apps, network hardware, serrver
e. eShopping, eCommerce, eTransaction, online shopping, eDelivery etc -replacing retail shopping, F&B.
etc etc.
8. In 2012, I propose the concept of industry by industry transformation, business transformation and job re-skilling - that finally lead to DPM Heng announcing ITM (Industry Transformation Map) in Budget 2016.
This is the antidote that effectively tackle the "Disruptive Tech" that lead to many business disruption and many mature workers job loss - that last at least for 10 years starting from 2010 to 2020.
[3:42 pm, 15/09/2021] +Boon: Dear MOM, as an immediate actionable policy, MOM, MTI, MAS and other ministries and agencies can consider annual awards that recognize and reward companies (across different industries and of all sizes) that have good HR practices that train and promote local talents, as well as recognize foreign experts who foster and train Singaporean talents. Such an award can be combined with digital and innovative business practice recognitions.
[3:48 pm, 15/09/2021] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Part 2 - Need an institutionalise Adult Uni/Poly/ITE as catchment to register retrenched workers, retrain, internship and do placement
1. Local workers when retrenched or lose their jobs - will need a "Catchment" place to catch them because :-
a. Emotionally, workers who lose their jobs will get anxious, frustrated, worried, angry - as they face an uncertain future - how to feed themselves and their family members.
b Thus Government must setup a "catchment place" - to catch all retrenched workers - to ensure :-
i. Government will take care of them when their jobs got hit - to provide mental assurance, interim financial assistance, retraining and placement for new jobs. This will be the best assurance and empathy for Singaporeans who lose their jobs.
ii. Retrenched workers maybe given 3 months to find a new jobs on their own.
iii. After 3 months, Government should make it a statutory requirement to register with MOM or through CPF contribution notice that the workers are not employed for 3 months - register the workers to the Adult Uni/Poly/ITE (e2i can transform to be this Adult training institution - campus like) for :-
- training
- provide training allowance (to pay retrenched worker during training) - so that trainees can still feed themselves and their families.
- place trained workers into internship with participating companies
- convert internship into permanent staff
(Note:- Government must work with enterprises for this program which can comprise of MNCs, GLCs, SMEs, startups etc).
[3:52 pm, 15/09/2021] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Notice that what is the underlying engine that cause "Tech disruption" ?
It is computer technology, AI, programming - that cut across all industries and business sectors.
[3:55 pm, 15/09/2021] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Hence, from secondary school all the way to university - computer technology notably programming must be one of the core subjects for all students - because it cut across all industries and business sectors.
[3:57 pm, 15/09/2021] +RH: ๐๐ป๐๐ป
[4:00 pm, 15/09/2021] +RH: Programming isn't for every one.
As it is, some fun even hv the basic skills needed.
Get the foundation done across the board - start at pri & sec simultaneously.
Offer programming, at sec level as an option for those keen in gg into it.
Make ICT a subject, a part of the regular curriculum.
[4:01 pm, 15/09/2021] +RH: * at Sec level & abv,
[4:05 pm, 15/09/2021] +RH: At least hv the next gen know abt, experience wat it is, understand how tech works as a basic foundation from which they can springboard.
Those w a flair for programming can do so.
Those who r only interested in gaming can do so.
Those who only wanna use tech as a tool but not keen to get technical, will at least know how to make use of such tools in their future jobs..
Those who can't handle even the basics - well, they'll at least hv experienced it & r aware of wat tech can do.
In short, everyone becomes tech-aware, gg into the future.
Not stay blur blob into the next senior gen!.
[4:07 pm, 15/09/2021] +RH: And we wl also hv a new gen pool of diverse techies!
[4:08 pm, 15/09/2021] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Part 3 - Foreign talents and workers and students role in Industrialisation 4.0
- Infusion of talents in leading edge technologies, systems, process, services, procedures and new thinking
1. Throughout my career, I have worked alongside many foreign talents with leading edge technologies and have benefited immensely. Many foreign talents in University whether professors, researchers and top foreign students - have also value-add to our learning.
2. Foreign talents have also brought along new ways of doing things, systems, processes, services, procedures and new thinkings --- in which we can adapt, modified for our use.
3. Foriegn investors that bring in new investment in STEM will also help Singaporeans to acquire leading edge technologies that will grossly benefit our Economy, business and job creation.
4. Hence our Government must continue to target and calibrate the inflow of such foreign talents that bring us value-added investment, technologies, knowledge and skillsets ---- that will benefit Singaporean immensely.
5. By setting higher salary quota, actively targeting such foreign talents globally - we will get this value-added foreign talents.
6. Other than high-value added foreign talents, our Economy also need foreign workers such as construction workers, domestic workers etc. But we must continue to use technologies and ensure that we do not need to infuse too many foreign workers but rely on technologies to do most menial tasks.
[4:10 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: think there is already such an award , i remember seeing it some where many years ago
[4:13 pm, 15/09/2021] +Boon: Thanks! If so, and in light of current concerns, maybe the authorities can revive this award?! And make the award visible!
[4:14 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: yeah is quite close circle awards
[4:14 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: aka not public
[4:14 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: the only public one is on saf day where it shows which company support our nsmen
[4:17 pm, 15/09/2021] +RH: ... some Dun even hv
[4:19 pm, 15/09/2021] +Thomas: We seems to focus alot on IT skills etc. Let's not forget about Engineering skills from basics motor, turbine, to power plant. This is what makes alot of things work
[4:19 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: agree
[4:20 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: PLEASE DUN EVERYTHING IT
[4:20 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: one day and trust me IT will be the cause of major melt down in the market !
[4:20 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: is a double edge sword like if i ask how many actually remember your parents mobile number
[4:20 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: or your sister mobile number
[4:20 pm, 15/09/2021] +Thomas: Our SME needs alot of engineering skills people but only get the white hair people applying for the job
[4:20 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: that's the type of hidden damage technology had done
[4:21 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: IT is like a buddle bang too much on it when it burst .... chaos comes about there must be a good balanced and mixed of skilled people in the market
[4:21 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: also seriously STOP banging on reskilling
[4:22 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: we can have ppl reskill but are the companies out there willing to tak ein and pay a respectable rate
[4:22 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: this si another hard truth
[4:22 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: cross 40s local can kiss their hope for a proper job good bye
[4:22 pm, 15/09/2021] +RH: Agree.
[4:24 pm, 15/09/2021] +Thomas: One hard truth is that now , a young Singaporean is demanding $5k yo $6k when applying for a QA job. Not much of experience. It will be high cost to company and eventually pass down to consumer
[4:25 pm, 15/09/2021] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Part 4 - Education programme - English, mother tongue, Math and Science - the strong foundation in Primary School.
Computer Technology/Programming - must be introduced to Secondary, JC, Poly and Uni.
1. The foundation of English language (mother tongue eg. Chinese - become increasingly important - as China become an Economic superpowers. Tamil - as India is a big Economy. Malay - business with our neighboring Countries)., math, science ---- must be reinforced in primary school.
2. As our Economy progess into Industrialisation 4.0 - math and science become increasingly important.
STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics) ---- are the foundation of Industrialisation 4.0 ---- hence Math and Science become very important as the foundation subject - that must be master by Primary school students.
3. As students progess to Secondary schools, JC, Polytechnics and University ---- computer technology and programming --- must be one of the core subject ---- in addition to their main Elective - whether Computer Science, Engineering, Business, Law, Medicine, Architecture, Finance, Social Studies, Art etc.
Because "Digital Tech" - cut across all busines and industry domain.
- Banking
- Insurance
- Manufacturing
- Medical field
- Law
- IT
- Retail
- F&B
- Social services
- Law Enforcement
- Defence
- Trade
- Construction
etc etc
4. Dedicated Adult Uni/Poly/ITE campus and education (can be e2i transformed campus) - must be build to continuously train Adults eg. retrenched adult workers, continous training ---- because "Tech disruption" don't only happen in 2010 to 2020.
It will continue to happen - and currently fresh graduates could be obsolete 20 years down the road - through another "Disruptive tech" ---- and this Dedicated Adult campus --- can "catch them" and "train them" and "place them" and "employ them" until they retire at 65 years old.
[4:25 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: these are the strawberry that things drop from the sky
[4:25 pm, 15/09/2021] +RH: Is the gov checking on this...
Like, hv some org (WSG, perhaps?) oversee & chk tt these guidelines r carried out?
[4:25 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: and another reason for companies who is after profits to turn of oversea or migrant workers
[4:26 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: why should i pay for green horn that rate when i can get a green horn at a lower rate , and this rate might be something for a mgt personnel in an ogranisation
[4:26 pm, 15/09/2021] +Thomas: They should engage SME and look at their needs . Design a course that meet their needs not so academic like the SSG type of courses
[4:27 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: yes we all work for money but have to be realistic
[4:27 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: is not wrong to look for good paying job but high price comes with sacrifices are locals willing to do it
[4:27 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: or still in lala land with 9-5 job 90 mins of lunch break
[4:28 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: 13 mth aws
[4:28 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: 3-5 mth bonus
[4:28 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: no over time
[4:28 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: and no multi role ?
[4:30 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ken Loh: Not all high pay jobs are really that busy ๐
[4:30 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: thus many are lure to doing grab / panda / kangaroo only to know is shit life too
[4:30 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ken Loh: Multi role yes , busy not always ๐คฃ๐คฃ
[4:30 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: well for local at least i see it as it is thus there was a report that says besides tokyo singapore is another hell of a place to work
[4:31 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: for migrant workers at mgt position yeah is pratically eye and email power that's all
[4:31 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ken Loh: Err depends bah.. if you grow up in Singapore the pace is very different we are more or less used to it
[4:31 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: is not local is good to eat or being a fool we are doing what we are supposed to do dutifully and in some case love our role
[4:31 pm, 15/09/2021] +Thomas: We have experience where a local Singaporean who just join the company in the morning knowing the type of work that he will do. Ask him to help out only to clear some soil near a parking area by using a spade. By lunch, he is gone and left the company without informing. Guess he felt insulted to do some dirty work ?
[4:32 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: not surprise
[4:32 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: but will have to see from multi angle also was the task explained why it required him for the time being
[4:33 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: etc
[4:33 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ken Loh: Quality Management
- Certified Lead Internal Audit for ISO 9001: 2015
- Smart Quality System Development (Visual Quality Control System)
- LIMS System Development
- Lead internal Audit
- Supplier/contractor Quality Audit
- Batch Release
- First Article Inspection
- Customer Complaint Management (CAPA)
- Corrective Action Report (CAR)
- Change Control
- Quality Training
- Certified ISO 14001:2015 Lead Auditor
- Certified ISO 45001:2018 Lead Auditor
- Supplier Quality Management
- Document control
This is my JD, but busy some what ok only
[4:33 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: like i have strawberries join today end of the day bye bye
[4:33 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ken Loh: I jump from job from job to keep myself busier ๐คฃ๐คฃ
[4:33 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ken Loh: Too little stuff get bored
[4:33 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: cos cannot take the pressure due to covid period where direction changes here and there
[4:34 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: if everyday ur busy means ur company business lagi good liao or many areas which need to reactify
[4:34 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: saying everyday and every hour busy is pure bull shit
[4:34 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ken Loh: Busy.. but as executive we also have lots of rest time.. so give us time to think and do other projects
[4:35 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: but to say everyday not busy is not true
[4:36 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: every role in a company is there for a purpose
[4:36 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: when shit hits the fence that's where the company will know if you have the use
[4:36 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ken Loh: Same role how busy really very different from company to company.. I see some of my friends busy till no end
[4:37 pm, 15/09/2021] +Thomas: Years ago, I have a IT section leader came to me that he wants to be a manager in 3 years else he will leave. Good ambition but skills not there. His foundation not there. When I started work as young graduate, I craw under the table to crimp cable to understand the fundamental but now a day... ask the youngster to do it. Gone the next hour
[4:38 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: I have one 90s kid 1st job for 2 years wants to be a Assistant manager ..... Just because he knows the user well
[4:38 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: Power right
[4:39 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: Thus i say again society in singapore is screwed badddddly
[4:39 pm, 15/09/2021] +Thomas: So my big questions, does the politician of the day (both Opposition and Government understands the issues of the day.
[4:40 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ken Loh: Different generation management is very different
[4:40 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ken Loh: Have to adapt hence manager pays well..
[4:41 pm, 15/09/2021] +Thomas: But engineering knowledge as to start with fundamental. You need to uderstand programming before you can manage a team.
[4:42 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ken Loh: I don’t think so… there is always people path and technical expert path
[4:42 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: in fact all manager needs X number of years of expereinced and does not means u stay in a company for 8 years you can be a manager yes maybe in that company but when you step out only then u see the well you lived in
[4:42 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ken Loh: Can be a very good technical but bad manager
[4:42 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ken Loh: Vis versa
[4:43 pm, 15/09/2021] +Thomas: That's why not all can be manager
[4:43 pm, 15/09/2021] +Thomas: *cannot
[4:43 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: is very hard to find a technica yet people person mgr
[4:43 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: just like sales ppl they are usually con jobster who know nothing about technical aspect
[4:43 pm, 15/09/2021] +Thomas: But our society needs both to be good and in our economy
[4:44 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: even restarting of a pc will need help yeah mentally handicapp i term them
[4:44 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: but when u put them to sell their stuff they can con a bird from the sky down
[4:44 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ken Loh: That is call sales… ๐คฃ๐คฃ
Important and hard skill more inborn
[4:46 pm, 15/09/2021] +Thomas: The hard truth is that , companies realise we can WFH and still produce. Some jobs can be done overseas or remotely. So it's a danger to our jobs here
[4:46 pm, 15/09/2021] +Thomas: In terms of IT programming. Philippines, Indonesia or regionally they are good and cheap
[4:47 pm, 15/09/2021] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Part 5 - Response to the current high infection number and balancing the Economy and jobs
1. The current daily infection number - that jump by 100 a day and yesterday close to 200 jump to 832 infected --- the highest record.
2. Is this infected a number a cause for concern?
3. Yes it is. Becasue the higher the infection number - hospitalisation number will go up, serious cases will go up and even death may go up.
4. So there is a need to tame the infection number.
But how?
a. Push for vaccination - as vaccination do keep hospitalisation, serious cases and death down.
Government must persistently, consistently and persuasively push those unvaccinated people to vaccinate.
I feel relief that the Government is doing a quietly good job - to get vaccination up to 85% 1 dose and 81% 2 dose. A no mean feat by any Government in the World.
But I hope Government can achieve 100% vaccination --- and we are only 5% away for elderly and adults (about 285,000).
Whether through targeted persuasion or other soft approach or come to the crunch, Mandatory Vaccination ---- we must try to achieve the target of 100% vaccination (including the infant, when trial is over).
Because elderly and adults are the more vulnerable groups that will sucuumb to hospitalisation, serious cases or even death.
b. Pervasive testing (like Company testing per week), home testing with free test kits, less self-induced social interation, wear mask, social distancing, contact tracing, isolation and micro-lockdown.
Why we don't want to do a hard lockdown just yet - because our vaccination threshold is very high - 85% 1st dose and 81% 2 dose.
We want to see with all the above measures introduce, how far can Delta spread and when Delta will die down on its own ------ with our high vaccination rate, and continue push for 100% vaccination.
Also will hospitalisation number, serious cases or death --- kept in check (control by our high vaccination rate).
This will be an important data for us ---- in preparation for the endemic.
c. There must be a threshold set for our this pilot test.
If the hospitalisation number or serious cases or death hit that threshold - we must stop this pilot test - and do a hard brake --- to bring the hospitalisation, serious cases or death down - and hence the infection number down.
d. This 2 to 4 weeks are our crucical monitoring period ---- to see how far Delta can go - and how far our vaccination rate and our social distancing measures can tame this current wave of Delta.
e. After 2 to 4 weeks time, we will need to re-org and determine what will be our next step forward --- where hopefully our vaccination can hit 90% (ie. all elderly and adults are vaccinated).
[4:48 pm, 15/09/2021] +CQ: that's why it's a nightmare when a manager who doesn't know his stuff anyhowly promise the sun the sky the moon or expecting stupidly fast turnaround time or at a stupidly low cost because he doesn't know what the work entails. that's why the technically capable people who are below them in rank are ripping their hair out and wondering why incompetent people are placed there
[4:48 pm, 15/09/2021] +Thomas: Without understanding the fundamental of coding and experience with it, a project manager or manager will not be able to manage and plan. Singaporean aspire to be PM or Manager, the fundamental not there, we will lose out
[4:49 pm, 15/09/2021] +CQ: exactly!!
[4:50 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: dun say coding in any industry if the basic is not there will be gone but also apply to a too technical guy who have 0 people skills he will die also
[4:51 pm, 15/09/2021] +Thomas: All jobs , required a strong technical skills and our schools can achieve this ? Plus to be a manager , you need the soft skills which SSG is trying to achieve this , but still for conversion programme from one sector to the next, require to build the technical skills
[4:53 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: yes and i believe u are talking about career switch hahaaha
[4:57 pm, 15/09/2021] +Thomas: For country to be strong on jobs. We need to look at Germany. They are good in engineering , technically good and a good standard which the world recognises. But the cost of living is also high.
[4:57 pm, 15/09/2021] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
2012 the origin of ITM - how to tackle disruptive tech - that disrupt local jobs and local business.
[4:58 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: good things we can look into bad things dun foolow
[4:58 pm, 15/09/2021] +Thomas: true
[4:58 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: like how japan used to be good in their so call clean environment
[5:00 pm, 15/09/2021] +CQ: but education all the way until is free iirc...
[5:01 pm, 15/09/2021] +Thomas: That's why tax is high and cost of living is high. Can we accept that here ?
[5:02 pm, 15/09/2021] +CQ: yeah, that's the main issue. it's free healthcare, free education, welfare gao gao. but obviously someone has to foot the bill
[5:02 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: did mention before dun comapre sometimes
[5:02 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: cos is never ending
[5:02 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: we see them good but did we see their suffering
[5:02 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: like wise they see us good but when they see us living in pegions holes they aiyooooooo
[5:02 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: so good things can leanr bad things dun take
[5:03 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: craft a system that is means of the local ground local environment
[5:03 pm, 15/09/2021] +CQ: but they've built a name for themselves! when we talk about german engineering, we know we're in for one of the best in terms of build and precision in the world. likewise the Swiss for watchmaking, the Japanese for speed and efficiency. so what's our value-add and brand proposition to the world?
[5:04 pm, 15/09/2021] +Thomas: yes , we can try to understand their adult education method and system, their schools system methods. There might be something good there
[5:05 pm, 15/09/2021] +Thomas: Worry is that when the Pioneer, Merdeka and Boomer generation is gone. Singapore hub status maybe gone too
[5:05 pm, 15/09/2021] +CQ: imho, i feel it's a bit hypocritical to say don't compare. because when garmen try to roll out something, they say "see, this country doing that country doing", but when we try to point out that "this country got this benefit, that country got that benefit", then they turnaround and say "cannot compare". that's a very asian parent thing but a very "huh???" logic
[5:06 pm, 15/09/2021] +Thomas: ๐
[5:06 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: that u just mentioned is govt , the compare i mentioned is here within the virtual channel
[5:07 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: cos is a never ending cycle which majority of what we see good will not come true for us ;)
[5:07 pm, 15/09/2021] +Thomas: Remember our people is our resources and nothing else
[5:07 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: how govt see things again like i always says is a different angle cos they got the best best brains there ......
[5:07 pm, 15/09/2021] +CQ: garmen is representative of our voices. it's an asian parent culture thing lah. everyone pick and choose what they want to see and hear
[5:08 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ken Loh: Not always productive… but yes if productive enough they will move
[5:08 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: govt is representative of our voices......hahaha sure anot hahahahahaha. this statement is like 100% of the time they can echo our feeling
[5:08 pm, 15/09/2021] +CQ: erm...... remember earlier on we said people who lead aren't necessarily the ones with the best technical skills and vice versa?? yeah..... some of the strongest do-ers aren't up there either
[5:09 pm, 15/09/2021] +CQ: well, they're supposed to be. we all know reality is by left ๐คฃ
[5:09 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: ok lah 60:40 lah
[5:10 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: how you wannt put the 60:40 is individual ahh
[5:10 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: hahahahahha
[5:10 pm, 15/09/2021] +CQ: ๐คฃ
[5:10 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: but comparing too much is bad for health also ... impt is know where to halt .....or after compare what to do copy wholesale or modify
[5:11 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: like some M country always try to wholesale but tak jalan ..... while C country there copied us but made small modification and wahla they succeed
[5:13 pm, 15/09/2021] +CQ: tell the kiasu SG parents to stop comparing us (as individuals) to our siblings, cousins, their friend's son/daughter or their colleague's neighbour's son's dog first. then we can talk about "stop comparing", cos it's hardwired into our upbringing and our systems, whether we like it or not.
[5:13 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ben: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/15/singapore-reports-biggest-spike-in-covid-cases-in-a-year-despite-81-vaccination-rate?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other
[5:13 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: is not hard wired
[5:13 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: is a culture thing
[5:13 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ben: It's worth reading reading whole article, not just the headline.
[5:14 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: espically local must comapre ur bag and my bag
[5:14 pm, 15/09/2021] +Boon: ๐
[5:14 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: comapre ur make up and our makeup
[5:14 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: comapre ur car and my car
[5:14 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: comapre home deco
[5:14 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: compare phone
[5:14 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: even eat also must compare
[5:14 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: aka want face
[5:17 pm, 15/09/2021] +CQ: compare kids grades, if that one cannot fight, they compare number of kids... 1 vs 0, 2 vs 1, but anything above 4 raises an eyebrow unless you live in a huge house....
[5:22 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: fight number of kids born this one is the highest level of kiasu hahahahaha
[5:22 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: go IVF lah ...one time put 5
[5:23 pm, 15/09/2021] +Suma pamu: 300 ICU beds available... Are these over all ICU beds
Or Just for Covid !!
Didn't understand..
And Beds Ok can arrange 1000
But Are there enough Staff to handle ICU cares๐ค
(As what i know is special training required for it)
[5:27 pm, 15/09/2021] +CQ: aiyoh! highest level of kiasu comparison was whether the mother delivered the child naturally or via C-sec, apparently this couple viewed a push-out of the meatball as being more successful than a surgical removal... ๐
[5:27 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: O yeah hahahahaha
[5:27 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: Some mothers have this mentality baby not push is weak or something looser
[5:28 pm, 15/09/2021] +CQ: yah!!! oh my tian, i nearly pengsan when i heard that
[5:28 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: But frankly kiasu taken in the correct direction can be positive
[5:28 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: Those are the xtreme end
[5:29 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: Like china they have china based kiasu sickness too
[5:29 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: Academic
[5:30 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: Thus govt step in to close tuition centre
[5:30 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: If this happen here i think parents kisiao
[5:31 pm, 15/09/2021] +CQ: then all the more people will scream about how uncompetitive our graduates are even in our domestic market and how they sure die out there.
[5:36 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: in short again our society issue .. hahahahaha
[5:36 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ah Heng: all must be path nice nice for them so when delivering strawberries to distri they dun get bump and can survive and looks nice nice at super markets
[5:45 pm, 15/09/2021] +REACH: Migrant workers living in dorms thrilled to return to Little India for first time in 1½ years
SINGAPORE - Wearing a neatly ironed grey shirt and a gleaming pair of dress shoes, construction worker Veerasamy Murugan, 28, could barely hide the grin behind his face mask as he prepared to board the bus in Mandai on Wednesday (Sept 15) morning.
More:
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/migrant-workers-living-in-dorms-return-to-little-india-for-the-first-time-in-112-years
[5:51 pm, 15/09/2021] +Caleb: Many will be out of jobs also. All the tutors and support staff
[5:57 pm, 15/09/2021] +Ben: Good news :)
[6:48 pm, 15/09/2021] +REACH: Dear Contributors,
⏰ We will be closing the chat in 15 minutes ⏰
Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Goodnight!
Megan
[6:49 pm, 15/09/2021] +Kevin: Good night Megan
[6:59 pm, 15/09/2021] +Smiley face: 15 September, 2021
To: Distinguished Ministers and All Honorable Members
The Organism of Exposure, Experience And Extension (3Es)
Main:
'Great leaders create more leaders!" The old saying speaks aloud the need for continuous situational assessments, talents building and emerging leadership within an organisation, this case GLCs and SMEs.
For discussion, named, the Approved Local Talents Overseas Assignments scheme (ALTO) quad-driven by MTI, MOE, MOF, MOM.
This concept can be an advantage especially for a Singapore's owned organisation with regional or global footprints.The idea is to promote the values of exposure and experience that extends across the strata of an organisation. Couple with approved tax breaks, deductibles and subsidies supported by government.
Leveraging on its internal human talents to be deployed on a fixed time line say up to 5 years with respect to the scope and seniority of each employee. For example, a willing local fresh graduate from ITE/Poly/Uni with nil/limited experience and no real world exposure will be pathed to pack and travel to the closest regional office to assume a 2 year on the job assignment.
If we expand this deployment and cross border deployment strategies of internalising at each level in IDENTIFYING Singaporeans with talents and potentials from mid to senior executives to assume a higher pitch of performances and regional responsibilities for up to 5 - 8 years exposures in a foreign business environment.
These overseas assignments will be one of the leading indicators for an organisation overall level of competency, efficiency and importantly to build a future (5,10,20 yrs intervals) core team for deployment, expansion and succession.
The ALTO idea is to continuously nurturing a sizeable pool of junior talents to ADJUST, ADAPT and ASSUME leadership roles in ALL calibres, capacities and relevance in the pursue of excellence in a measured and well calibrated organic organisation.
Afterwords:
"Thousand talents and a hundred years plan "... "ๅไบบ่ฎกๅ, ็พๅนด่ฎก!"
-- Ian T
"how a leader motivates a team to work hard and belief? You create a REALISTIC VISION and a sense of EQUALITY..!"
-- Ian T
Additional:
14 September, 2021
To: MIN-MOM, MTF, DMS and All Honorable Members
"Reduce DownTime and Optimise Productivity"
Proposed SOP for Workplace Quarantine 5/5 approach:
The ten days quarantine period can be divided into two groups, namely the low exposures (LEG) and high exposures (HEG). Likewise the ten days to be split into a first 5 and the remaining 5.
To qualify and quantify the two groups, the following criteria:
1) Establishing an Internal Safety Committee with simple SOP mirroring SMM & assigned Safety Leaders into micro units of 10 per unit
2) Physical areas of infected person(s) compared to the rest of the office / factory / common areas / toilets / entrance / exit
3) Age group of the infected ones and the immediate colleagues / teams
4) Ratio of vaccinated staffs and unvaccinated staffs relate to the infected ones
5) Five days Q for LEG, with swab test on day 2 and day 4.
6) Any infected cases from the LEG on day 4 to continue Q till day 10.
7) For HEG, the swab tests on day 3, 6, 10.
8) inclusive of sat, sun or public holidays
Summary:
The basic idea is to REDUCE downtime and Optimising productivity given a finite time frame of exposures, quarantines and infections, this case first 5 days and the next 5 days of QO.
Afterwords:
Nothing is particularly hard if you divide it into small jobs.
-- Henry Ford
"If I had eight hours to chop down a tree, I'd spend six hours sharpening my ax."
-- Abraham Lincoln
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[7:00 pm, 15/09/2021] +REACH: Dear Contributors,
We will be closing the chat for today.
Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Goodnight!
Megan ๐
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