REACH 144 - More participation in Singapore Together Movement (SK)
25 Sep 2020 (11.15am - 7pm)
REACH
[9:34 am, 28/09/2020] +: Many planning to use tourism vouchers for staycations and attractions
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/many-planning-to-use-tourism-vouchers-for-staycations-and-attractions
REACH
[11:15 am, 28/09/2020] +: Dear contributors,
Welcome back! 😊
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[11:16 am, 28/09/2020] +: 📢 Topic 📢
How can we encourage more Singaporeans to participate in the Emerging Stronger Conversations?
Open to citizens and permanent residents, the Emerging Stronger Conversations allow participants to share their hopes and plans for a more caring, cohesive, and resilient post-Covid-19 society.
They are part of the broader Singapore Together movement, where the Government and people partner each other to co-create policy solutions.
There have been 11 virtual sessions and SG Together ESC surveys on two apps, LifeSG and OneService, with more to come. More than 1,000 Singaporeans have participated to date. Held over Zoom, each ESC lasts around two hours and involves 40 to 50 people. Those interested can sign up online.
👉 https://www.straitstimes.com/politics/bringing-together-voices-to-build-more-resilient-society?utm_source=STSmartphone&utm_medium=share&utm_term=2020-09-28+11%3A02%3A36
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Blue and White Flag Guy
[11:33 am, 28/09/2020] +: More exposure. I doubt majority have even heard of it though I was part of the inaugural session and met a wonderful facilitator and also a wonderful group member too!
Berny
[11:36 am, 28/09/2020] +: I know my opinion may become slightly political, but imo, the best way is to tap on the different political parties to work together and talk to their supporters. Singaporeans are generally "thin skinned" and doesn't voice out as much and even if the different MPs were to walk the ground to ask for "opinions", they may not reach a 100% accurate sentiment:
- some might be complaining about other stuff instead of having a honest conversation on the topic
- some may hold onto their opinions due to political differences (eg. I support xxx party, therefore, I shall not give you my sentiment to help your party)
- some are simply... bo chup...
While the app survey is good to attract the less vocal sentiments, some people may not even know the app's existence at all (i.e. me, never hear of LifeSG before till today 😬)
A group meeting might be good, but the more vocal ones might drown the voice of the less vocal opinion
Blue and White Flag Guy
[11:38 am, 28/09/2020] +: Regarding the app, there's too many, even if 3 may sound little
SingPass, OneService, LifeSG
Why not all in one? Or make Progressive Web Apps (PWAs) that will be easily accessible from any browser on any device
Berny
[11:38 am, 28/09/2020] +: I went to google store and LifeSG got horrid rating for some weird reason 😬
Blue and White Flag Guy
[11:40 am, 28/09/2020] +: On a personal note, during the inaugural session, there were 1 facilitator, 1 senior citizen, 2 other members who were youths (1 slightly older than I am and 1 slightly younger than I am)
Undoubtedly the senior drowned out the opinions of all of us in a way and when she mentioned how engaging the elderly is difficult and I suggested that going with the format of hackathons, where people look for their dream team to join in on, she misinterpreted that and thought I wanted the elderly to participate in hackathons
Headache lah some people, never hear clearly want to stir 💩
Ken
[11:41 am, 28/09/2020] +: LifeSG was useless from the start... now a bit better... can use for baby registration and birth certificate etc
Berny
[11:43 am, 28/09/2020] +: I'll be honest with you ya, the app is really... have lots of room for improvements, but I do appreciate the effort put in, even though I don't know what's the rationale of designing the app in the first place..
Kn
[11:45 am, 28/09/2020] +: Different teams hopefully... so have wider ideas to make the apps better...
one service app was quite good
Berny
[11:47 am, 28/09/2020] +: Actually, why not integrate all the different apps together? Singpass is good, OneService allows you to complain without writing in or calling, Trace together is... trace together 😬, if all 3 were to combine together, it will be less confusing
Blue and White Flag Guy
[11:47 am, 28/09/2020] +: Also on the issue on communucation between the elderly and those of a younger age,
There was a time when I was on the MRT and there were 2 elderly women muttering between themselves saying how all teenagers refuse to give up their seat
But they didn't think, I was the only one who was ready to do so but how can you seat 2 people in 1 seat? They didn't think about this so I approached them and reprimanded them before asking which one of them needed the seat more
Too many breakdowns in communication when it comes to this two age groups, sadly. I personally have the heart for everyone because I represent public transport and we all know the big hoo-hah about reserved seats, though I wasn't seated in one. It was a middle seat.
But if this goes on for long enough, even I, with such a big heart will have his heart turn hard and then everyone will really start to wonder who will ever give up their seats to them
Berny
[11:50 am, 28/09/2020] +: This... boils down to a few things:
1. Graciousness (If you really need a sit for whatever reason (maybe you suddenly felt giddy), just ask anyone politely, chances are, they will give up or the seats nearby will be empty).
2. Self entitlement - Old =/= need/want seat, some seniors doesn't like to sit for some weird reason, but only some.
3. some people may not give up their seat because they had a long day, maybe they are feeling unwell, maybe this maybe that.
4. Generation gap
Blue and White Flag Guy
[11:51 am, 28/09/2020] +: I'm addressing the 4th point here, the other 3 are kind of obvious
[11:52 am, 28/09/2020] +: There's also this huge stigma surrounding the reserved seats. Even if you're not on one, you can still give it up to whoever that might need it more than you. Again, it does not necessarily have to be just the reserved seats.
[12:07 pm, 28/09/2020] ☸️ Danny 心:
Emerging stronger conversations - must allow participants to bring out topics that might be important for Singapore and Singaporeans but are not brought up as topic for discussion.
[12:08 pm, 28/09/2020] ☸️ Danny 心:
US-China rivalry: top US marine calls for redistribution of Pacific assets as PLA’s power grows
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/us-china-rivalry-top-us-115937512.html
US Pacific force under pressure from China military threat.
Guam under real threat, and Guam US military assets need to disperse before it will be destroyed by China military forces - targeted by PLA IRBM DF-26 nuclear missiles and H6K nuclear bombers.
[12:08 pm, 28/09/2020] ☸️ Danny 心:
US upgrades defensive ‘buffer’ in Pacific as China’s military capabilities increase
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/3092555/us-upgrades-defensive-buffer-pacific-chinas-military
US move some military assets into Wake Island - midway between Guam and Hawaii - as Guam base increasingly vulnerable to China PLA IRBM DF-26 nuclear missiles and H6K nuclear bombers.
Blue and White Flag Guy
[12:08 pm, 28/09/2020] +: Anyone else here already participated in the ESC?
Lim
[12:09 pm, 28/09/2020] +: What is ESC?
Blue and White Flag Guy
[12:10 pm, 28/09/2020] +: ESC
[12:10 pm, 28/09/2020] ☸️ Danny 心:
Tensions rise across the Taiwan Strait as Taipei test-fires missiles
Read more at https://www.todayonline.com/world/tensions-rise-across-taiwan-strait-taipei-test-fires-missiles
https://www.todayonline.com/world/tensions-rise-across-taiwan-strait-taipei-test-fires-missiles
[12:10 pm, 28/09/2020] ☸️ Danny 心:
Taiwan's armed forces strain in undeclared war of attrition with China
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/taiwan-china-war-of-attrition-armed-forces-military-defence-13151642
China waging war of attrition on Taiwan air force.
Taiwan air force is now under strain and on the verge of being wear out.
[12:10 pm, 28/09/2020] ☸️ Danny 心:
Both Taiwan and China test fired various types of missiles - anti-missiles, anti-ship, anti-air missiles across the Taiwan strait.
[12:10 pm, 28/09/2020] ☸️ Danny 心:
'Taiwan is Taiwan': China name dispute moves from birds to climate change
https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/taiwan-is-taiwan-china-name-dispute-moves-from-birds-to-climate-change
Look like for Taiwan issue, it may eventually have to resort to war to sort this out. The stance of breaking Taiwan from China is hardening in Taiwan.
To be wise, I think we have to move our Starlight armor base out soon. Else we will get caught by their cross fire - if we extract our skeleton troop and armor assets too late.
Rama
[12:21 pm, 28/09/2020] +: You have a point
REACH
[3:36 pm, 28/09/2020] +: Hi everyone, thanks for sharing so far, pls keep your views and ideas coming!
📢 Topic 📢
How can we encourage more Singaporeans to participate in the Emerging Stronger Conversations?
[3:40 pm, 28/09/2020] ☸️ Danny 心:
Raise issues of important.
But also provide solutions.
[3:42 pm, 28/09/2020] ☸️ Danny 心:
Allow others to add or raise questions about those issues and solutions we raise - to ensure it can stand water.
Implement if found the issues raised and solutions proposed to be useful.
REACH
[3:45 pm, 28/09/2020] +: [Sent by Gov.sg – 28 Sep]
As of 12pm, MOH has preliminarily confirmed an additional 15 cases of COVID-19 infection in Singapore.
Based on investigations so far, there are 2 cases in the community (2 Work Pass holders).
In addition, there are 6 imported cases who had been placed on Stay-Home Notice upon arrival in Singapore.
MOH will share further updates in its press release that will be issued later tonight.
go.gov.sg/moh28sepupdate
YT
[3:58 pm, 28/09/2020] +: Have more online platforms for people to voice their opinions.
Berny
[4:01 pm, 28/09/2020] +: Actually, why not have targeted group discussion? PA had been doing that (Youth have their own post budget dialogue, different sub group different post budget dialogue)
YT
[4:03 pm, 28/09/2020] +: I find those organized by PA are only attended by the same old people. What's more those are usually grassroots volunteers. I don't think they represent the general population. Youths are from their youth groups, etc.,
Jimmy Chew
[4:08 pm, 28/09/2020] +: invite a wide spectrum of people and allow them to express, don't handpicked the audience
Berny
[4:25 pm, 28/09/2020] +: Perhaps, but we could use the same principle to address the issue. Separate the groups into different profile instead of having everyone in the same table, which could drown the voices of the minority
Jimmy Chew
[4:45 pm, 28/09/2020] +: yeah, they should open to the public
[4:55 pm, 28/09/2020] ☸️ Danny 心:
Maybe pay token sum for people to participate in focus group open up to public. ( Eg. NTUC voucher, Capital mall voucher or maple tree voucher).
Then more public maybe entice to join.
Ben
[5:31 pm, 28/09/2020] +: It's hard getting people to participate for anything regarding feedback. Some simple ideas: Keep it easy - do an online form, add a module to the One Service app, simple click boxes and scale of 1 to 10 questions. Make it relevant - who are you targeting, what is the problem you are trying to solve, how will this survey help, when will the results be made public (or some kind of feedback provided)
[5:32 pm, 28/09/2020] +: Advertise that this survey is happening on PT and bus stops, by schools - anywhere people are waiting around.
[5:33 pm, 28/09/2020] +: Have a QR code to scan, make the survey able to 'save and continue later' if it's long, offer a prize draw for a number of respondents etc
[5:34 pm, 28/09/2020] +: Keep focus groups short (max 1 hour) and offer a snack or drink and publish the agenda and structure for the event so people know what to expect.
+65 9173 0669 left
[6:04 pm, 28/09/2020] ☸️ Danny 心:
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/09/01/dual-circulation-how-china-is-preparing-for-a-new-role-in-international-trade.html
My close friend comments:
Multi modal way of globalisation is the future.
Singapore securing regional cooperation very important for our survival.
This is an important topic for emerging stronger.
Hopefully, RCEP and CPTPP can proceed smoothly.
Boon
[6:19 pm, 28/09/2020] +: 1. Let Singaporean know why it is important for them to participate, so that those who are silent can step up. Why is speaking up important for Singaporeans - will their voices be heard and acknowledged?
2. We should have dialogues - by and with Singaporeans (not preselected based on rank or status) - on the national issues that Singaporeans need to focus on now and the foreseeable future, so that we can be on a common page and direction.
[6:37 pm, 28/09/2020] ☸️ Danny 心:
Actually what is the top 5 issues that majority of Singaporeans are concern with?
If anyone can identify the top 5 most concern issues - then more people will participate and provide their inputs.
Boon
[6:38 pm, 28/09/2020] +: 👍 Exactly. What are the common top 5 issues?
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