REACH 470 - What are your views on measures to combat online harms? How can we ensure our online spaces remain safe, vibrant and conducive to civic participation for Singaporeans?
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07 Jul 2023 (10am - 7pm)
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07/07/2023, 10:01 am - +REACH: π’ *Topic* π’
The Online Criminal Harms Act (OCHA) was passed in Parliament on Wednesday (5 July), and will allow the Government to tell individuals, entities, online and Internet service providers, and app stores to remove or block access to content it suspects is being used to commit crimes.
Under the new law, five types of directions can be issued when there is reason to believe an offence has been committed online. These include a stop communication direction that requires the individual or entity that first posted the criminal content online to remove the post; as well as a disabling direction that requires the online service provider (such as Facebook or TikTok) to disable users' access to specified content.
π¬ *What are your views on measures to combat online harms? How can we ensure our online spaces remain safe, vibrant and conducive to civic participation for Singaporeans?*
Minister for Communications and Information and Second Minister for Home Affairs Josephine Teo said the Bill makes special provisions for scams and malicious cyber activities, which "tend to unfold with great speed and scale. They inflict great harms on the victims, not just in terms of financial losses. The threshold to issue directions should therefore be lower than for the other specified criminal offences.”
She added that once there is suspicion that any online activity is being carried out in preparation for or as part of the commission of a scam or malicious cyber activity offence, law enforcement could issue directions even before an offence is committed.
Responding to questions about the need for OCHA, Mrs Teo said that unlike the Broadcasting Act, which currently covers only social media services, OCHA covers all mediums of online communication as well as a broader scope of online criminal harms, including illegal moneylending, unlawful gambling and drug-related offences.
Leader of the Opposition Pritam Singh said the Workers' Party supported OCHA, but not the Protection from Online Falsehoods and Manipulation Act and Foreign Interference (Countermeasures) Act. He queried if it is in the best interests of Singapore citizens that the Government blocks not only an article the Government deems false but an entire publication.
Mrs Teo responded that it was “not quite a correct characterisation” to say that the Government decides what is the truth, as “Pofma deals with false statements of fact [which] can be proven."
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07/07/2023, 10:08 am - +Frankie Wee: Under age 18 may learning wrong affected.
It’s case serious addict cyber bully or violence behaviour.
All mobile App Store need a permission request age.
07/07/2023, 10:15 am - +Smiley face: " when you give someone a hand pistol, it is a short ranger; when you give someone an assault rifle all targets are reachable; the object is the weapon, the subject is the person, and the targets !"
- - anonymity
07/07/2023, 10:25 am - +Rama: Let the new laws run its course but I expect tweaks along the way
07/07/2023, 11:00 am - +Frankie Wee: On Thursday night, Lee’s sister Nancy shared on Facebook that scammers were using the news of her death to raise funds for charity.
“Please be aware that we will not do fundraising of any sort and have not issued any memorial products in her name,” she wrote, adding that their family will take legal action against these scammers.
https://www.straitstimes.com/life/entertainment/coco-lee-s-estranged-husband-bruce-rockowitz-breaks-his-silence-calls-her-his-beloved-wife
07/07/2023, 11:07 am - +Ken: It’s a double edge sword, can be used by the governing body to control the media outlet.
What is prove, how we decide it is wrong. It’s tough, even as government. As media control to prevent bad actors from using media as an outlet to push false information that will cause damage to Singapore.
07/07/2023, 11:09 am - +Ken: POFMA, how to regulate, on what basis.
I guess if they can show reason for POFMA, would be good enough? Not sure what you guys think?
07/07/2023, 11:17 am - +Darius Lee: It is clear that we are facing a “cultural lag” in which technological advancements are outpacing legal and moral norms.
A law like this is long overdue, but important.
07/07/2023, 11:40 am - ☸️ Danny εΏ:
"Kia and Hyundai will pay out millions to people who had their cars stolen in Tik-Tok inspired 'Kia Boys' thefts"
https://www.businessinsider.com/kia-hyundai-settlement-cars-stolen-tiktok-kia-boys-2023-5#:~:text=Kia%20and%20Hyundai%20will%20pay%20out%20millions%20to%20people%20who%20had%20their%20cars%20stolen%20in%20Tik%2DTok%20inspired%20%27Kia%20Boys%27%20thefts
07/07/2023, 11:53 am - ☸️ Danny εΏ:
10 people lost $17,000 in phishing scam where scammers pose as Carousell buyers.
https://news.google.com/articles/CBMie2h0dHBzOi8vc3RvbXAuc3RyYWl0c3RpbWVzLmNvbS9zaW5nYXBvcmUtc2Vlbi8xMC1wZW9wbGUtbG9zdC0xNzAwMC1pbi1waGlzaGluZy1zY2FtLXdoZXJlLXNjYW1tZXJzLXBvc2UtYXMtY2Fyb3VzZWxsLWJ1eWVyc9IBf2h0dHBzOi8vc3RvbXAuc3RyYWl0c3RpbWVzLmNvbS9zaW5nYXBvcmUtc2Vlbi8xMC1wZW9wbGUtbG9zdC0xNzAwMC1pbi1waGlzaGluZy1zY2FtLXdoZXJlLXNjYW1tZXJzLXBvc2UtYXMtY2Fyb3VzZWxsLWJ1eWVycz9hbXA?hl=en-SG&gl=SG&ceid=SG%3Aen
07/07/2023, 11:54 am - ☸️ Danny εΏ: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/carousell-working-with-police-to-tackle-phishing-scams-banks-to-disrupt-scammers
Carousell working with police to tackle phishing scams, banks to disrupt scammers.
07/07/2023, 11:55 am - ☸️ Danny εΏ:
"At least S$480,000 lost in concert ticket scams since January, over 460 in Singapore cheated"
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/spf-concert-tickets-scam-victims-carousell-twitter-facebook-taylor-swift-coldplay-3610701#:~:text=At%20least%20S%24480%2C000%20lost%20in%20concert%20ticket%20scams%20since%20January%2C%20over%20460%20in%20Singapore%20cheated
07/07/2023, 11:56 am - +Frankie Wee: Their bank account will frozen those whom received by someone
07/07/2023, 12:10 pm - ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Victims lose about S$220,000, including CPF savings, in Android malware scams. https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/phishing-scam-malware-android-mobile-devices-cpf-savings-nine-arrested-3584666
07/07/2023, 12:34 pm - ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Online harms can take many forms:-
1. Political manipulation
2. Social manipulation
3. Phishing sites
4. Scam
All have detrimental effects to people using social media.
07/07/2023, 12:34 pm - ☸️ Danny εΏ:
"PSP takes down ‘sia suay’ video on Ridout Road saga, apologises"
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/psp-takes-down-sia-suay-video-on-ridout-road-saga-apologises#:~:text=PSP%20takes%20down%20%E2%80%98sia%20suay%E2%80%99%20video%20on%20Ridout%20Road%20saga%2C%20apologises
07/07/2023, 12:38 pm - ☸️ Danny εΏ:
1. Eg. Of political manipulation - is the "sia xuay" video posted by PSP NCMP - with the objective to spread half truth on parliamentary proceedings - to gain political mileage and put down the incumbent government.
07/07/2023, 12:41 pm - ☸️ Danny εΏ:
2. Eg. Of social manipulation is to post silly but harmful challenges to bait youth to take part such as stealing, consuming harmful contents, doing silly but sometimes dangerous stunts.
3. Sometimes, terrorism contents are put online whereby gullible youth may get influence to commit terrorism activities that harm the society. <This message was edited>
07/07/2023, 12:44 pm - ☸️ Danny εΏ:
4. Phishing sites, scam sites to bait unsuspecting victims such as cheap sales, concert tickets, survey to win reward, job scams, love scams etc - will cause victims to lose life savings.
07/07/2023, 12:46 pm - ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Hence protecting people from online harms become extremely important - as online harm can be done online, realtime, cutting across borders and is very difficult to stop.
07/07/2023, 12:53 pm - ☸️ Danny εΏ:
The new directions to block, stop, take down, remove access, pofma etc to curb harmful online contents to from political manipulation, social manipulation - should be effective.
I support the government new measures.
07/07/2023, 12:57 pm - ☸️ Danny εΏ:
My worries are adequate measures to prevent and stop phishing sites, malware download, stealing banking credentials, Singpass credentials - and do unauthorised transfer of life savings from banks and CPF.
This is my greatest concern as the current cyber security technologies may not be adequate to protect unsuspecting victims that do online banking transactions.
07/07/2023, 1:11 pm - ☸️ Danny εΏ:
I appreciate the ease of access and efficient online transaction.
But it comes with a cost, the ease of online transaction also means it is easy for scammers to masquerade victims online credentials such as userid, password, OTP such as digital token, SMS OTP and even biometric authentication which can be compromised.
Hence additional more effective measures need to be augmented to prevent scammers from getting away with victims life savings.
Hence we have to dwell into the vulnerabilities of online authentication sign-in including the recently touted biometric authentication for Singpass access to determine whether additional measures are required.
07/07/2023, 1:24 pm - ☸️ Danny εΏ:
My close friend comments:-
CPF need biometric authentication.
My comments:
But everytime I go to that page I hesitate.
Because if our face biometric kenna hack, then we will lose it forever and scammers can use it to login to many accounts including banks in future.
My close friend comments :
Same with fingerprint biometrics, once hacked forever hacked. We got ten fingers to switch around but only 1 face.
My comments:
Yes.
This is my real hesitation.
My close friend comments:
But I knew of someone who underwent chemo therapy and travelled. The overseas immigration could not accept the facial biometric and she was stuck.
My comments :
Biometric is prone to error.
Eg. Makeup, sweat, sleepy face etc.
That's why until now I hesitate to register with biometric - be it fingerprint or facial recognition.
07/07/2023, 1:36 pm - ☸️ Danny εΏ: <Media omitted>
07/07/2023, 1:36 pm - ☸️ Danny εΏ: <Media omitted>
07/07/2023, 1:36 pm - ☸️ Danny εΏ: <Media omitted>
07/07/2023, 1:36 pm - ☸️ Danny εΏ: <Media omitted>
07/07/2023, 1:39 pm - +Jimmy Chew: How safe is my fingerprint data in my HP anyone one knows?. Can my phone be hijacked and retrieve my fingerprint from my HP and initiate me?
07/07/2023, 1:43 pm - ☸️ Danny εΏ: https://www.hindawi.com/journals/scn/2022/4375232/
Pattern Mathematical Model for Fingerprint Security.
07/07/2023, 1:53 pm - ☸️ Danny εΏ:
1. Biometric data are stored in the computer via math model converting biometric characteristics into binary form and stored into the computer - central server, central database, local laptop, local computer or handphone.
2. Though non reversible algorithm are used and even with strong encryption - to prevent biometric data from being stolen, biometric data can still be stolen.
3. Example, scammers may request and trick victims to put their face, palm, fingerprint or iris on a scanner - so that they can win prizes, or receive money rewards or other ways - that trick victims to release their userid, password or OTP.
4. Once done, scammers will have a permanent copy of the victims biometric data - be it face, fingerprints, palm print, iris etc.
And there is no way victims can change their face, fingerprints, palms or iris - unless they die and reborn with a new body.
5. Scammers will then have an unfettered access to victims bank, CPF and other financial system for life - and there is no way to reset or change the password.
6. Userid, password and OTP is what you know.
Biometric is what you have.
Userid password and OTP can change if stolen.
Biometric once stolen is forever stolen.
07/07/2023, 1:57 pm - +Ken: π€£ reborn ππ
07/07/2023, 1:58 pm - ☸️ Danny εΏ:
1. Though some security people may say, some scanner will be detecting a life person to capture the biometric data for authentication.
2. But this is not foolproof with new advanced technologies from emerging such as AI, deepfakes, quantum computing - as future technologies maybe able to bypass "life person scanning of biometric" - as biometric data are basically digital form.
As long as digital data match the backend biometric data in raw form, it will get through.
07/07/2023, 1:58 pm - +Ken: Errr every step there is ways to get around it.. just aware and don’t let people collect for no reason lor..
Now most country you visit has a copy of your biometric
07/07/2023, 1:58 pm - +Ken: π
07/07/2023, 1:59 pm - +Ken: They just have to hack a lousy country and have all the data
07/07/2023, 1:59 pm - ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Exactly.
That's why biometric authentication is not foolproof.
07/07/2023, 2:00 pm - +REACH: π’ *Topic* π’
The Online Criminal Harms Act (OCHA) was passed in Parliament on Wednesday (5 July), and will allow the Government to tell individuals, entities, online and Internet service providers, and app stores to remove or block access to content it suspects is being used to commit crimes.
Under the new law, five types of directions can be issued when there is reason to believe an offence has been committed online. These include a stop communication direction that requires the individual or entity that first posted the criminal content online to remove the post; as well as a disabling direction that requires the online service provider (such as Facebook or TikTok) to disable users' access to specified content.
π¬ *What are your views on measures to combat online harms? How can we ensure our online spaces remain safe, vibrant and conducive to civic participation for Singaporeans?*
Minister for Communications and Information and Second Minister for Home Affairs Josephine Teo said the Bill makes special provisions for scams and malicious cyber activities, which "tend to unfold with great speed and scale. They inflict great harms on the victims, not just in terms of financial losses. The threshold to issue directions should therefore be lower than for the other specified criminal offences.”
She added that once there is suspicion that any online activity is being carried out in preparation for or as part of the commission of a scam or malicious cyber activity offence, law enforcement could issue directions even before an offence is committed.
Responding to questions about the need for OCHA, Mrs Teo said that unlike the Broadcasting Act, which currently covers only social media services, OCHA covers all mediums of online communication as well as a broader scope of online criminal harms, including illegal moneylending, unlawful gambling and drug-related offences.
Leader of the Opposition Pritam Singh said the Workers' Party supported OCHA, but not the Protection from Online Falsehoods and Manipulation Act and Foreign Interference (Countermeasures) Act. He queried if it is in the best interests of Singapore citizens that the Government blocks not only an article the Government deems false but an entire publication.
Mrs Teo responded that it was “not quite a correct characterisation” to say that the Government decides what is the truth, as “Pofma deals with false statements of fact [which] can be proven."
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07/07/2023, 2:00 pm - +Ken: It comes with name, IC, everything..
Just hope those country doing the right thing in protecting all those data
07/07/2023, 2:02 pm - ☸️ Danny εΏ: <Media omitted>
07/07/2023, 2:03 pm - +Ken: Scams can target Singapore easily…
As you know there is software and hardware.
Technology is the hardware to enable all these to be possible.
Software is the part where, they need to train people to be aware and have Taskforce to evaluate the need to intervene or not.
Many use the technology without know basic security or cyber safe. As they just want to use it. Also why Apple is so good at having the closed garden. π
07/07/2023, 2:03 pm - +Ken: But now also force to open up..
07/07/2023, 2:03 pm - +Ken: Also why I gave my mum an iPhone π
07/07/2023, 2:04 pm - ☸️ Danny εΏ:
"Apple releases urgent iPhone update to millions of users"
https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/apple-iphone-update-ios-17-latest-b2364115.html#:~:text=All%20rights%20reserved.-,Apple%20releases%20urgent%20iPhone%20update%20to%20millions%20of%20users,-Anthony%20Cuthbertson
07/07/2023, 2:05 pm - ☸️ Danny εΏ: https://www.thestreet.com/technology/elon-musk-flags-sophisticated-attack-against-apples-iphones
Elon Musk Flags Sophisticated Attack Against Apple's iPhones.
Computer-security company Kaspersky indicates that a sophisticated new malware is affecting iPhones, including those of its own employees.
07/07/2023, 2:05 pm - +Ken: π€£ ok ok
07/07/2023, 2:05 pm - ☸️ Danny εΏ:
iPhone currently most vulnerable.
APT attack without user doing anything.
07/07/2023, 2:05 pm - +Ken: Cause most valuable target use iPhone π
07/07/2023, 2:06 pm - +Ken: Hence more people learn how to exploit it
07/07/2023, 2:06 pm - +Ken: Another thing is try not to download beta version for iPhone. Usually there is many day zero venerability as well.
07/07/2023, 2:10 pm - ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Hence I will like to suggest the following security measures for any online banking, Singpass financial transactions such as CPF withdrawal or deposit, bank transfer (local and overseas) :-
1. Continue to use userid, password, digital token, SMS OTP.
(What you know)
2. Replace biometric authentication by bank or CPF transfer - with call back verification through phone call or video conferencing or physical verification.
(What you have).
This will be a more foolproof identity authentication compare to biometric authentication.
07/07/2023, 2:21 pm - ☸️ Danny εΏ:
It may not be so efficient with call back verification especially with large volume, need more manpower, especially with small amount transfer.
But it will be safe as the manual interception is a real identity verification - a real 2FA.
07/07/2023, 2:32 pm - +Jimmy Chew: Thanks ππ
07/07/2023, 2:33 pm - +Kenneth Lee WM: >law enforcement could issue directions even before an offence is committed.
I'm not comfortable with this.
What happened to "innocent until proven guilty"?
What if the law enforcement is proven wrong at the end of the day? What's the compensation to the innocent for all the hardships inconvenienced encountered? eg: account frozen, cannot pay suppliers, got charged extra interests
07/07/2023, 2:34 pm - +Rama: Agree
07/07/2023, 2:34 pm - +Kenneth Lee WM: Probably nothing will happen to law enforcement because it is seen as they are doing their jobs and gov don't want these things to affect them. I recalled recently police was sued and the law was changed to make police impervious to such things. Now can't remember the exact article.
07/07/2023, 2:36 pm - +Kenneth Lee WM: I agree with the rationale behind why these things laws are being enacted but not the way it is currently being implemented.
07/07/2023, 2:39 pm - +Rama: Unfair
07/07/2023, 2:51 pm - ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Like to suggest this.
As everything is based on cost-benefit analysis:-
1. For small amount online transfer in banks - the call back verification could be too cumbersome and costly to bank.
Hence, userid, password and OTP (digital token or SMS OTP) may suffice.
However if hack, bank can easily compensate as the amount is small.
But banks have to put in checks eg. AI detection of scamming such as many small amount transfer in quick time to stop the unauthorised bank transfer.
2. For bigger amounts eg. $5,000 and above, call back verification is required before banks can approve online transfer upon userid password and OTP authentication.
3. For CPF Singpass withdrawal, call back verification is required in all cases - because this is dealing with elderly 55 years and above.
07/07/2023, 2:57 pm - ☸️ Danny εΏ:
4. I agree with Minister MOM decision not to use insurance to compensate against unauthorised CPF transfer as suggested by WP Jamus Lim - because it will invite users from carelessly and negligently give up and not safeguarding their login and identity credentials.
5. Also through insurance compensation, Singaporeans will have to pay additional cost in insurance premiums just to subsidise and co-pay negligent online users.
The biggest gainer are the scammers.
6. Hence I suggest call back verification as a real 2FA foolproof measures to ensure non-authorised transfer and withdrawal cannot get through. <This message was edited>
07/07/2023, 2:57 pm - +Rama: Good point
07/07/2023, 3:01 pm - +Smiley face: Sights and Sounds?
One of the several key power drivers of human trust is to see and to hear or to listen!
Seeing and listening are believers of all information gathering whether is a fact or a total or partial fake! It is that simple and ignorantly easy to first distort and second to divide a human opinions and views of any given tangible or intangible! It is morally wrong to tweat fake information and nowadays with the abundant of digit platforms of news and videos that are beyond control thus addon to the information war on the in-betweens versus fakes versus facts!
What about the expanded big data?
Physical measurements of human features, eyes and eyebrow, voice, written messages, digital connections, oral or digital communications, actions, transactions and locations are highly valued data sets to the data architect, an inclusive knowledge bank for analytics and generative outcomes using ultra high speed computing through augmented AI.
One interesting feature of the human facial expression is the eyes and the accompaniment of the eyebrow! The two expressions will tell the truth in a person's behaviors and speeches such honesty, mischief or and the level of trustworthy! (ie. secret service agent with sunglasses!) Al will pick these millions of human traits uploaded and self generate!
A new human identity?
The old ways of biometric for identification purposes from facial features, teeth to thumb print; a new and unique way is to identify the ears, it's shape, its length, and breathe because it is aesthetically harder to create and surgical reshaping either one or both ears or the AI will shape it all. How about implanting a nanochips and all done!...
07/07/2023, 3:07 pm - +Smiley face: 'The Ministry of Minds"
"All known scientific findings of the human brain is still in the primitive stage...how human think, acts and reacts all have deeper unfound meanings and power, it is not mind control, it is more than the structure and the matters in it,..all we know so far is the cognitive abilities of the human brain, that's all and new friend, AI !"
- - anonymity
07/07/2023, 3:09 pm - +Smiley face: Connecting these dots, you will be able to outsmart the Scammers and the Fakers! The rest is History!
Get it or cannot see it?
07/07/2023, 3:11 pm - +Smiley face: Jigsaw Puzzle #1
A real exercise scenario is how the US airforce deployed AI to challenge the "top gun" pilots. The conclusion of this military transformation is 250 times smarter, accurate executions of air to air or air to surface combat in a multiverse and no worry over the high G-force compared to the hotshot pilots!
Going forward, how to win this battle of lifes, livelihoods and lies?
07/07/2023, 3:21 pm - +Smiley face: One interesting feature of the human facial expression is the eyes and the accompaniment of the eyebrow! The two expressions will tell the truth in a person's behaviors and speeches such honesty, mischief or and the level of trustworthy! (ie. secret service agent with sunglasses, your political opponents and your spouse!) Al will pick these millions of human traits uploaded and self-generate!...
07/07/2023, 3:22 pm - +Smiley face: A new human identity?
The old ways of biometric for identification purposes from facial features, teeth to thumb print; a new and unique way is to identify the ears, it's shape, its length, and breathe because it is aesthetically harder to create and surgical reshaping either one or both ears or the AI will shape it all. How about implanting nanochips and all done!...
07/07/2023, 4:00 pm - +REACH: π’ *Topic* π’
The Online Criminal Harms Act (OCHA) was passed in Parliament on Wednesday (5 July), and will allow the Government to tell individuals, entities, online and Internet service providers, and app stores to remove or block access to content it suspects is being used to commit crimes.
Under the new law, five types of directions can be issued when there is reason to believe an offence has been committed online. These include a stop communication direction that requires the individual or entity that first posted the criminal content online to remove the post; as well as a disabling direction that requires the online service provider (such as Facebook or TikTok) to disable users' access to specified content.
π¬ *What are your views on measures to combat online harms? How can we ensure our online spaces remain safe, vibrant and conducive to civic participation for Singaporeans?*
Minister for Communications and Information and Second Minister for Home Affairs Josephine Teo said the Bill makes special provisions for scams and malicious cyber activities, which "tend to unfold with great speed and scale. They inflict great harms on the victims, not just in terms of financial losses. The threshold to issue directions should therefore be lower than for the other specified criminal offences.”
She added that once there is suspicion that any online activity is being carried out in preparation for or as part of the commission of a scam or malicious cyber activity offence, law enforcement could issue directions even before an offence is committed.
Responding to questions about the need for OCHA, Mrs Teo said that unlike the Broadcasting Act, which currently covers only social media services, OCHA covers all mediums of online communication as well as a broader scope of online criminal harms, including illegal moneylending, unlawful gambling and drug-related offences.
Leader of the Opposition Pritam Singh said the Workers' Party supported OCHA, but not the Protection from Online Falsehoods and Manipulation Act and Foreign Interference (Countermeasures) Act. He queried if it is in the best interests of Singapore citizens that the Government blocks not only an article the Government deems false but an entire publication.
Mrs Teo responded that it was “not quite a correct characterisation” to say that the Government decides what is the truth, as “Pofma deals with false statements of fact [which] can be proven."
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07/07/2023, 4:14 pm - +Smiley face: This message was deleted
07/07/2023, 4:36 pm - +REACH: *Dear Contributors*
We want to *HEAR MORE* from you on today’s topic!
π¬ *What are your views on measures to combat online harms? How can we ensure our online spaces remain safe, vibrant and conducive to civic participation for Singaporeans?*
We have had good feedback and hope that we can keep the discussion robust and active!
Megan π
07/07/2023, 4:47 pm - +Frankie Wee: Mind is a psychological of behaviour because mind body is loser he or she may self suffer depression over feelings guilty wrongdoing and through silly suicides attempt.
Loser:
Addicted gamble
Scam
Murder
Personally
Someone can seek help call SOS but if money lose nothing is return.
07/07/2023, 4:47 pm - +Frankie Wee: What do law said
https://singaporelegaladvice.com/law-articles/is-it-illegal-to-commit-suicide-in-singapore-will-i-be-punished-if-my-attempt-at-suicide-fails/
07/07/2023, 4:50 pm - +Frankie Wee: I hoped everyone learn a lesson how the scam make them lose money by victim. In future Singapore technology make it advance safeguard against scammers.
07/07/2023, 4:50 pm - +Frankie Wee: https://www.scamshield.org.sg/
07/07/2023, 4:57 pm - ☸️ Danny εΏ:
"China aims to sap Taiwan morale with 'escape plan' misinformation: Sources".
Cyber warfare ongoing - up to Taiwan Presidential election.
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/china-sap-taiwan-morale-escape-plan-misinformation-3612431#:~:text=China%20aims%20to%20sap%20Taiwan%20morale%20with%20%27escape%20plan%27%20misinformation%3A%20Sources
07/07/2023, 4:58 pm - ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Indeed online social media can have a very massive soft power if used as such.
Curbing social media hence is imperatives to protect sovereignty is hence necessary. <This message was edited>
07/07/2023, 5:00 pm - +Frankie Wee: This message was deleted
07/07/2023, 5:01 pm - +Rama: Divide and conquer
07/07/2023, 5:04 pm - ☸️ Danny εΏ:
You will be surprised social media can change election outcome.
Trump use social media through Cambridge analytical to help him to win election beating mainstream candidates.
07/07/2023, 5:05 pm - ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Through echo chamber.
07/07/2023, 5:10 pm - ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Eg. PSP "sia xuay" video is an example of "echo chamber" technique.
By cutting out the context, show the offensive video, put catchy caption - create the "modular chamber" then spread it through social media platforms, communication media such as WhatsApp and telegram - to sow misinformation, half truth news - and fool online people.
As more of such misinformation are disseminated - mistrust are created against the government - and swing election votes against the government.
07/07/2023, 5:11 pm - +Rama: Dotard copy cat
07/07/2023, 5:12 pm - +Frankie Wee: Russia 2024 election if Putin is out there will peace left Ukraine end
Taiwan leader won’t give to China pro independence.
USA trump will re-election 2024 but he is trouble with laws
Singapore election coming too
07/07/2023, 5:13 pm - +Rama: Very political messy!
07/07/2023, 5:13 pm - +Frankie Wee: 2024 worse or good year ahead
07/07/2023, 5:53 pm - ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Actually such technique is a "horizontal echo chamber technique" to flood to the mass audience.
Another echo chamber technique is more silo known as the "vertical echo chamber" that identifies groups of people with unique similar characteristics.
Then can carve out "chamber video" unique to each group to appeal to them with misinformation - hoping to swing vote against the government.
07/07/2023, 5:58 pm - ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Hence opposition need not appeal to voters by convincing voters they have better policies than incumbent government.
Instead they rely on discrediting the incumbent government through half truth, misinformation and fake news to discredit the government and win vote for themselves.
This is how Trump win his election.
No need to be good - just make your opponent look bad and lower their standards below you - and win.
If Singapore let such oppositions get their way - then our standard of governance will drop and mark the downfall of Singapore.
07/07/2023, 6:00 pm - +REACH: π’ *Topic* π’
The Online Criminal Harms Act (OCHA) was passed in Parliament on Wednesday (5 July), and will allow the Government to tell individuals, entities, online and Internet service providers, and app stores to remove or block access to content it suspects is being used to commit crimes.
Under the new law, five types of directions can be issued when there is reason to believe an offence has been committed online. These include a stop communication direction that requires the individual or entity that first posted the criminal content online to remove the post; as well as a disabling direction that requires the online service provider (such as Facebook or TikTok) to disable users' access to specified content.
π¬ *What are your views on measures to combat online harms? How can we ensure our online spaces remain safe, vibrant and conducive to civic participation for Singaporeans?*
Minister for Communications and Information and Second Minister for Home Affairs Josephine Teo said the Bill makes special provisions for scams and malicious cyber activities, which "tend to unfold with great speed and scale. They inflict great harms on the victims, not just in terms of financial losses. The threshold to issue directions should therefore be lower than for the other specified criminal offences.”
She added that once there is suspicion that any online activity is being carried out in preparation for or as part of the commission of a scam or malicious cyber activity offence, law enforcement could issue directions even before an offence is committed.
Responding to questions about the need for OCHA, Mrs Teo said that unlike the Broadcasting Act, which currently covers only social media services, OCHA covers all mediums of online communication as well as a broader scope of online criminal harms, including illegal moneylending, unlawful gambling and drug-related offences.
Leader of the Opposition Pritam Singh said the Workers' Party supported OCHA, but not the Protection from Online Falsehoods and Manipulation Act and Foreign Interference (Countermeasures) Act. He queried if it is in the best interests of Singapore citizens that the Government blocks not only an article the Government deems false but an entire publication.
Mrs Teo responded that it was “not quite a correct characterisation” to say that the Government decides what is the truth, as “Pofma deals with false statements of fact [which] can be proven."
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07/07/2023, 6:22 pm - +Dan: There are many grey areas and it will be laborous for the authorities to monitor. I applaud the intent. Its necessary to curb to a certain extent but would like to see how the boundaries are drawn.
07/07/2023, 6:45 pm - +REACH: *Dear Contributors,*
⏰ We will be closing the chat in *15 minutes* ⏰
Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Goodnight!
Megan π
07/07/2023, 6:58 pm - +Smiley face: 7 July, 2023
"AI is self generative learning intelligence, a self correct intelligence, and a self sponsored ideas contributor. All of these three attributes will be the mighty influencer and the trusted opinions leader for societies, economics, and geopolitics; the future of AI wins over human intelligence (HI) !"
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Governance and Adaptability?
Will AI eventually replacing human for most of the tasks that once upon a time were humanly done?
How can we use AI together with Human touch to accelerate more objective and affirmative outcomes?
Pit and Pitch?
AI is an objection (pit).
Recall, memory, repetitive, pattern recognition
Humans are subjective (pitch).
Compassion, creativity, context, reasoning, diversity of experiences/behaviours/groups.
Integration?
How does it matter to policymakers, together, AI and human cognitive abilities to recommend sound solutions especially in the area of sensitivity information from economics, societies to politics or intelligence and of national security and international interest and vulnerabilities?
How can we teach AI to quantify feelings, moods, anger, ego, emotion Intelligence and not be presumptuous whether it is an entity or your enemy? Objective and subject, a clouding effect, there is a longer journey ahead to bridge these big gaps of human knowledge, machine learning and synthesize into one big thinking tank in which AI will be able to in a second guess all human behaviors and emotions to a perfect answer!
Meantime, don't trust wholesale that intelligent botchat that may not give you the full picture of the existential solutions or issues. There is a greater need for human to challenge, reprogramming the bots and be not overly relying on the AI solutions for the common or complex predictions because (bias or representation) nothing is perfect, not yet perfect, unless you got it all figured out , module them in one and don't forget to update it over and over!
"All known scientific findings of the human brain is still in the primitive stage...how human think, acts and reacts all have deeper unfound meanings and power, it is not mind control, it is more than the structure and the matters in it,..all we know so far is the cognitive abilities of the human brain, that's all and new friend, AI !"
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The Six Senses?
First, race and religion are two sensitive areas that need full protections and cares for the sake of peace and harmony. Any insensitive or offensive remarks whether is through conversations or via MSM will become a sciatica to this harmed individual or group of people!
Two, are these unnecessary remarks carelessly expressed or are these words carefully crafted or are these harmful remarks targeted to achieve other means?
Three, how can the authority and fact checkers confirmed if a remark is acceptable, or borderline or unacceptable? Are there simple key words to qualify in a posted message?
Four, all civic minded citizens should report any "off the wall" posts to IDA or MCI or the relevant authority to quickly look into these questionable posts. Let the authorities decide on such postings.
Five, for local posts, should the law punish those who intentionally post abusive or insensitive remarks insulting others or individual or the laws itself to not only accepting summons but jail terms of no more than one to three months or no internet access for up to a year and no account in all MSM except for emergencies contacts and incoming & outgoing calls?
Six, how about foreign individuals or groups or anonymous posters sending outrageous, insulting or challenging our constitutions and laws through messages and remarks? How to identify, apprehend and warn or prosecute these insensitive or intentional culprits?
Can the law ban them from entering Singapore to include all future reasons, requests or pleas to re-entry? Is it possible or not possible to prosecute these overseas Internet free riders?
Here tik there tok?
Whenever one clicks into the information world of contents, these days oftenly the content especially the fun and funny short burst of TikTok will mesmerise all folks from kids to adults.
So what's the depth of these digitally fun thingies? Is it fake or fact? Where is that valuable knowledge base?
If we expand into the broader context, there are good stuffs , the bad ones and the ugly sides of this Internet!
So how to habit into more meaningful adventures (risks do exist)?
Belief is half way to trust?
If your believing that a brand or a product more than satisfied your needs and wants, you will likely buy and continue to trust the brand, this is knowns as a repetitive behavior (buying into it).
If your emotions saying to you to stay away from something or a brand, it will likely do so with no second thoughts! Why so? It is because the past experience dictates the actual moment and thus the momentum of decision making to do otherwise than to buy it!
If your feelings (sentients) of a person or a brand is of no mental connections or relatively unknown, it will be harder to accept/ adopt at a blink of an eye to buy a new brand or to accept this person narratives!
So the human cognitive skills and processings are meticulously complex with many wirings waiting to connect into channels of the thought process in deriving a decision whether is a simple one or a highly mind boggling decision of life or death.
How can we soothe the brain?
One way is to start getting the conditioning program on a right path! Any out of the path will mean a correction of behavior and thus a new effort will have to be introduced to straighten the intended path.
The programming of the human minds is such a diverse and deviating ecosystem to amend for any intentional. If the proposer wishes to challenge these complex and changing mindsets, it needs to carefully lay out a detailed plan of implantations, interventions and corrections.
Sights and Sounds?
One of the several key power drivers of human trust is to see and to hear or to listen!
Seeing and listening are believers of all information gathering whether is a fact or a total or partial fake! It is that simple and ignorantly easy to first distort and second to divide a human opinions and views of any given tangible or intangible! It is morally wrong to tweat fake information and nowadays with the abundant of digit platforms of news and videos that are beyond control thus addon to the information war on the in-betweens versus fakes versus facts!
What about the expanded big data?
Physical measurements of human features, eyes and eyebrow, voice, written messages, digital connections, oral or digital communications, actions, transactions and locations are highly valued data sets to the data architect, an inclusive knowledge bank for analytics and generative outcomes using ultra high speed computing through augmented AI.
One interesting feature of the human facial expression is the eyes and the accompaniment of the eyebrow! The two expressions will tell the truth in a person's behaviors and speeches such honesty, mischief or and the level of trustworthy! (ie. secret service agent with sunglasses, your political opponents and your spouse!) Al will pick these millions of human traits uploaded and self generate!
A new human identity?
The old ways of biometric for identification purposes from facial features, teeth to thumb print; a new and unique way is to identify the ears, it's shape, its length, and breathe because it is aesthetically harder to create and surgical reshaping either one or both ears or the AI will shape it all. How about implanting a nanochips and all done!
Last thing becoming first, how should society handles these explosions of bot and AI? There is a pressing needs to keep the human ethics and morale in checks against the machines; what are permissible areas and the rest of the grey areas are prohibited by bot or AI? How to begin? Let's start from the perspective of all ideas of the AIs and the bots!
"Every historical statement in the world is believed on authority. None of us has seen the Norman Conquest or the defeat of the Armada. None of us could prove them by pure logic as you prove a thing in mathematics. We believe them simply because people who did see them have left writings that tell us about them: in fact, on authority..."
- -C S Lewis
Afterwords:
A real exercise scenario is how the US airforce deployed AI to challenge the "top gun" pilots. The conclusion of this military transformation is 250 times smarter, accurate executions of air to air or air to surface combat in a multiverse and no worry over the high G-force compared to the hotshot pilots!
Going forward, how to win this battle of lifes, livelihoods and lies?
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07/07/2023, 6:59 pm - +REACH: *Dear Contributors,*
We will be closing the chat for today.
Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Goodnight!
Megan π
07/07/2023, 7:00 pm - ~ REACH Singapore changed this group's settings to allow only admins to send messages to this group
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