REACH 446 - What are your thoughts on DPM Wong’s debate speech in parliament yesterday and the five key shifts outlined established from Forward Singapore’s engagements for a refreshed social compact?
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18 Apr 2023 (10am - 7pm)
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[9:59 am, 18/04/2023] +REACH: π’ Topic π’
On the first day of the debate on the President’s Address in Parliament, DPM Lawrence Wong covered five key shifts which will be important parts of a refreshed social compact for Singapore, which the nationwide engagement exercise Forward Singapore had been trying to establish.
He also mentioned the importance for both a serious government and opposition for Singapore to develop into a mature democracy. For the Government to do more to strengthen social safety nets and not end up inflicting heavy tax burdens on its citizens, DPM Wong stressed that the Government “will, and must, always be pro-growth and pro-inclusivity”. He also urged the opposition to consider the realities and trade-offs and provide concrete proposals over the course of the debates and for the remaining of the government.
π¬ What are your thoughts on DPM Wong’s debate speech in parliament yesterday and the five key shifts outlined established from Forward Singapore’s engagements for a refreshed social compact?
Five key shifts in Singapore’s refreshed social compact:
π 1. New approach to skills
DPM Wong stressed that formal education early in life is not the endpoint of meritocracy, as there is a need to focus on continuous learning, reskilling and upskilling with slower economic growth, rapid technological disruptions and greater job churn.
The Government is looking to reduce the costs for SkillsFuture courses and lower the barriers to training. It will work with industry partners to come up with effective training programmes so that they translate into meaningful employment outcomes. It will also work with tripartite partners to discuss how to support workers taking time off to train, but businesses must also shift their emphasis from hiring credentials to hiring skills.
π 2. New definition of success
DPM Wong stressed that beyond mindset shifts, the pay and career prospects in different professions must be consistent with what is valued. However, Singaporeans must then be willing to bear higher costs for goods and services.
ITE and polytechnic graduates would be assured that their pay and career prospects would not be far behind their university-going peers. Lower wage workers would continue to receive support to prevent their wages from diverging too far from those of median workers.
π 3. New approach for social support
Singapore’s social strategy would ensure that the key needs of the broad middle class and the vulnerable are met. This includes ramping up supply of BTO flats and tighter rules to ensure flats go to those who need them most. More would be done for people with disabilities to alleviate the impediments they face, reduce the financial burden on parents of children attending special education schools and care centres and enable them to contribute to society.
The Government also plans to design a targeted re-employment support scheme to enable displaced workers to make ends meet while still encouraging them to continue with training and job search.
π 4. New approach towards caring for seniors
Singapore will also invest in its infrastructure to build more community care apartments, expand the network of active ageing centres, improve access to home-based care services and work with community partners to prevent loneliness and social isolation.
The Government will also study how to enhance schemes such as the Matched Retirement Savings Scheme and Silver Support scheme to better meet seniors’ retirement needs.
π 5. A renewed commitment to one another
DPM Wong explained that the new social compact should be less about the individual and more about collective responsibility. He encouraged a broader culture of volunteerism and philanthropy, and for more opportunities for Singaporeans to partner the Government and one another in policymaking and co-creating solutions.
ππΌ https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/have-the-courage-to-change-where-change-is-needed-dpm-wong-outlines-5-key-shifts-for-s-pore
ππΌ https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/new-social-compact-key-shifts-education-meritocracy-seniors-lawrence-wong-3422931
ππΌ https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/dpm-wong-calls-on-opposition-to-offer-serious-alternative-agenda-not-just-populist-ideas
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[10:03 am, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: suggesting reach -> u one time want people to comments on the 5 points which are pretty broad
[10:04 am, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: why not split the tots on say 1 or 2 point per day that will enable your division to gather more focus comments ?
[10:09 am, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: if i may will start on skills -> provisioning an avenue for new skills for pme and citizens is good, but the end of the process is what are the opportunities that will be provision, govt cannot keep subsidizing to make companies take up local / pme with new skills
[10:12 am, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: if that is so such companies should be closely monitored for repetitive behaviors', example i remember how a OnG firm in the west hire a PME IT manager where the govt was at that time subsidizing 30-50% of the pay for those company who took up retrench workers for 6 mths, true enough , after the 6th mth this company let this position off citing did not meet expectation when the manager himself was able to ID so many loops holes and process which needs to be work on
[10:13 am, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: sad case to hear as to a company they just want someone to fill the holes while another hand is paying 50% of the cost is like i wan t part time worker but not willing to pay full amount
[10:14 am, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: the other side of the coin -> despite having skilled and maybe new experienced on the skill, companies might not still want to take on our local so call new talent pool because the other side of the pool have a ready pool of experienced talent which can comes at premium cost or lower cost then locals
[10:14 am, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: now to side track -> well said by LW -> He also mentioned the importance for both a serious government and opposition for Singapore to develop into a mature democracy
[10:15 am, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: since Chiam and Low is out since when we have serious opposition
[10:16 am, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: all seems to be putting up a show only to garner anti govt feeling while the people of the island think politics is like adding a like on fb or ig
[10:20 am, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: think mentioned before given our so many school (tertiary ) offering so many courses, why we cannot promote our talents to the various industry
[10:20 am, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: are we addressing the root cause in the correct direction or just to appease the nation on face value or toher wise
[10:42 am, 18/04/2023] +~L: All good positive messages and I'm pleased to hear this becoming a serious topic. The next steps are important to ensure trust. We need to see what resources, a timeline and measures of success. My concern is that this is a generational shift and will take 10 consistent years before we see real progress. There is so much narrow thinking across institutions in Singapore, that people a) don't believe in change b) don't want change c) don't know how to effect change.
[10:43 am, 18/04/2023] +~L: We need to see real examples and case studies of what these changes mean and why they are important and how they will happen.
[10:44 am, 18/04/2023] +~L: We are a small country and cannot possible predict what skills will be required over the next 5-10-15 years. Therefore we cannot train enough people to be skilled in whatever is needed, only a few (can't put all eggs in one basket). We will be reliant on global trade in goods and service.
[10:45 am, 18/04/2023] +~L: One question therefore is what happens to the people who trained in industries that no longer need them? How do we keep everyone benefitting from Singapore's policies and success, not just the fortunate ones that chose the path that came good?
[10:47 am, 18/04/2023] +~L: The traditions of Singapore planning ahead and sticking to the same path are outdated now - we need to be nimble, but that makes us vulnerable. Our planning strategy needs to change and be flexible, with safety nets that keep us together as a small nation wanting to thrive and explore.
[10:50 am, 18/04/2023] +~L: "DPM Wong explained that the new social compact should be less about the individual and more about collective responsibility."
Need to be careful about this too - what's right for one isn't right for another. Do we want to be a nation as slow as the slowest, or one that allows some to step forward and help encourage others to follow?
[10:51 am, 18/04/2023] +~L: "He encouraged a broader culture of volunteerism and philanthropy, and for more opportunities for Singaporeans to partner the Government and one another in policymaking and co-creating solutions."
I do like this though, but my experience with Gov organisations is of caution and reluctance. I don't see any dynamic thinking, or exploration or risk taking. Not just in government, but many institutions here!
[11:02 am, 18/04/2023] +Singapore Maid Agency: Govt are also looking into how to help the students especially from ITE with Work Studay Diploma.
My daughter is one of them.
[11:32 am, 18/04/2023] +Singapore Maid Agency: The government is listening π I feedback to Dr Faishal, as I’m the chairperson for our SUB MCST 4690. Highlighted that a simple calculation of how much the HDB cost last year 2022.
Based on HDB 4bedroom
69K, 4bedroom, 1988
our parents (Bt Panjang)
Salary $1,900
119K, 4bedroom, 2000
we (Bt Panjang)
Salary $1,400
250K, 4bedroom, 2015
Cousin (CCK Ave 5)
Salary $1,800
Main point was HDB prices had been going up “significantly” but newly graduated salary range still at borderline.
69K to 119K to 250K
Our concern is how are the children of lower income afford as now it’s going up to 300K.
Though he is a minister of MHA (Ministry of Home Affairs) yet he cares to highlight this to MND minister.
Thereafter the lower income will get a higher subsidies for a flat.
Then part time minimum wage was $9. As a PSG (Parent Support Group) in school hear a mother share that she was so happy as she’s working in McDonald’s @$7/hr.
Again I do not benefit from all the above just contribute as and when we can.
Highlighting the income ceiling of CHAS card and ECDA(Early Childhood Developed Agency) had to be raised in 2012/2013 as I was sending my child to childcare and met a grandma hear her story for 2hrs and wrote in and was glad she received necessary helpπ₯°
Too much of a story to continue……
[11:39 am, 18/04/2023] +Frankie Wee: Old as saying gone and new as it start
[11:57 am, 18/04/2023] +GLCM: To have broader culture of volunteerism and philanthropy in ppl, one would likely first have settled their base needs. If you have to take on double or triple jobs to maintain roof over your head and bring food to the table, there may not be time left each day to think about volunteering.
Likewise, if we increase awareness on respecting professionalism in all job avenues, be also prepared that services will bec expensive. This will add on to the monthly outlay per household. Hence big ticket items like HDB flats necessary for basic needs should be priced accordingly, not mkt value.
[0:39 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Can we consider placing our fresh graduates or final year undergrads to overseas OJT, internship or actual jobs opening?
It is about letting our young graduates sn option to be employed by our multiple overseas GLCs and govt owned subsidiaries for 2 years or longer?
This is one way to promote our young ones and gain overseas valuable exposure and experiences.
[0:42 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Can we also expand the medical/dental cohort to prepare for 2030 and beyond.
We need to start training more doctors, nurses and supporting staff.
It is now or later on we may face further shortage of these medical personnel. Alternatively, we have to import from elsewhere which will become tougher and competitive in ramping up our healthcare needs.
[0:44 pm, 18/04/2023] +Rama: Agree
[0:44 pm, 18/04/2023] +Rama: Yes
[0:45 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: By increasing intake of medical cohort means the grading of entrance to the medical school should allow a bit of slack when A level or IB scores are concerned?
Remember, there are students who are late bloomers and this is one group of potential people to not fall off the merit ladder!
[0:48 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Yesterday's essay.on demography, the average top income earners age is 45-46 years old.
Is this average telling us that talents peak at mid 40s regardless of their past stations in life! In this case can include early life education?
[0:53 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Are we able to flip the triangle shape of merits and invert it?
That seems impossible to achieve but we should attempt to flatten the apex a bit to include a spectrum of abled working class regardless of their fortes!
Success is not about that handful that made it to the top of this merit ladder?
At the pinnacle of one's career can mean the next fall is just a tipping point away!
So what is inclusiveness and is it realistic in this highly competitive world, today?
[0:56 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: One way to equalise these gaps of opportunity or uplifting a person's chance in life is to ENLARGE the intake pool by 50%.
In the field of professionals, lets say for accountancy, are our universities able to admit the extra 25% of freshmen?
Is it too much and our system is not calibrated for such an increase in numbers per department?
[1:01 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Today, in this chat group, ee cannot kid ourselves as all of us are mature adults !
We have earned our livelihoods and merits through sweat and blood!
We know the tall ladder of Merits!
Where a person starts will likely determine she or he ends up in their 40s years age group!
Simply, that's hard truth and having said so lengthy, as a nation we have the means, resources and the Sharp planning MINDSETS!
How can we throw away the business as usual and safety mindsets and embrace BRAVERY to seek no other OECD countries tried to solve this Merit and demerit ways of quantifying and qualifying the young, younger and the youngest ones!
[1:06 pm, 18/04/2023] +JC: I think DPM's vision is bold and ambitious. These are not just technocratic changes in governmental policies but a call for a fundamental shift in the values and behavior of our society. I wonder how comfortable and/or effective the PAP (or any govt) can be in driving such a change but kudos for DPM Wong for laying it out there are trying.
DPM only hinted at this but we may have to start trading off efficiency for greater compassion/ethical considerations.
I suspect that moving forward, to fulfil this vision, we may see/require leaders that are very different from what we have been used to seeing from our govt: Instead of highly qualified technocrats, we may need to lean more on individuals who are able to inspire and lead through their values and moral l…
[1:07 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: A+B formula?
A:
Yes, we can and we can afford to TEST and embark on new and refreshing methods of creatively crafting this Merit system, effectively!
Our yearly cohort of students is 34k?
If we are able to uplift 90% to their best, that will be the beginning of packing the strata of society towards togetherness!
B:
To continue searching for foreign talents that are on level or above our national standards and importantly, the economic needs!
A+B idea works and our young generations will not be sidestep or compromised. They will learn to trust the system because this system must be TWO WAYS GAME!
THAT'S A+B!
[1:10 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Change and unknown are two uncomfortable things human finds it challenging and many will not dare to think outside of the building (more than thinking out of the box)?
[1:16 pm, 18/04/2023] +GLCM: Leaders in the past have to think and decide on a direction and forge ahead. Have the rest follow. Because back then the situation demands for it.
Leaders of the present face a different cohort from the past. They don't have to come up with all the best ideas. They must review all inputs and formulate the best mix. And the most important of all, convince the entire cohort and walk the talk together.
The proof in the pudding is in the eating.
[1:16 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Boys to Men!
Is it true that in the selection process of a military officer, for NS, brilliant grades, physically ok and leadership are three keystones to our SAF?
How about other attributes to consider, fact is not all military roles need the muscle and Stamina to fight a war? AI and war?
[1:18 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: EQ, IQ and more attributes...
[1:18 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Character and personality?
[1:30 pm, 18/04/2023] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
New Approach to Skill
1. The current academic curriculum (eg. STEMS, computer science, engineering, business, doctors, law, accountancy, statisticians, sustainability etc (that produced and translated into knowledge and skilled workers) are still valid - which in fact still form the mainstream of our workforce.
We cannot junk it overnight.
They are not just paper qualifications but solid skills - because they need to be conversant with their subject matters, do project that are related to the specific industries, go for internship - translating the academic knowledge into actual work skills.
By passing their course with certificates, indicate that they are qualified and competent in their specialisation and can helm the specific jobs in the industry.
This form the "head jobs" of our workforce.
$500 billion of our GDP is perform by this workforce.
[1:38 pm, 18/04/2023] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
2. Of course the train skills will be relevant at the point of employment.
However as technology evolved, business evolved, AI become prevalent - tech disruption and business disruption will sets in making the trained skills obsolete - and need to unlearn, relearn, reskill and upskill.
Hence, emphasis on skill based meritocracy make sense as opposed to certificate hold in the past.
Hence skills future and the recognition of certificates from skills future that equate them with practical skills needed by the organisations become important.
Hence meritocracy based on skills become the fresh approach in this new key thrust - which I support.
[1:39 pm, 18/04/2023] +Khuan Yew: On improving the remuneration for those in skilled trades, the government needs to look in detail on how to achieve this when there’s foreign labour competing. Who would want to hire professional Singaporean plumber with certifications if a Malaysian who travels in daily from JB is willing to do the work at a much lower price? Many of our skilled trades face competition from foreign labour but in some countries like Australia, those trades can charge a higher price because of a lack of foreign labour.
[1:43 pm, 18/04/2023] +GLCM: Yes. The lack of foreign labour was also policy-enabled with tight work permit / immigrant rules.
[1:45 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: repeated many times ... despite whatever we voice... the usual reasoning is there is no one willing to work or not enough of these talents or have such people but not enough experienced -> thus leading to the comment input -> are we address the root cause all these while
[1:50 pm, 18/04/2023] +Khuan Yew: With regards to the education system, although exams have been reduced and the government wants to encourage learning, schools still give a lot of homework to the children. Students have limited time to learn what they are interested in if their teachers are rushing to complete their syllabus. And the syllabus is already more advanced than other countries or with what Singapore’s syllabus was decades ago. Would MOE be able to accept it if Singapore students do not top the Pisa rankings anymore? When teachers don’t have time to teach properly this disadvantages the lower income who might not be able to help their children or afford tuition. The better educated and wealthier parents could do either.
[1:51 pm, 18/04/2023] +Rama: Food for thought
[1:54 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: i begged to different on this -> it is up to the school itself from ground observation. The place i stay have a few so call top / prefer neighborhood schools those school have activities and school work till parents now are contemplating to pull their kids out (Primary 1) while the other schools the teachers are embracing positive learning skills to the new schooler (p1 also) with almost no home work everyday
[1:55 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: so the question is WHY ARE SCHOOL FIGHTING TO BE THE TOP when our minister make this statement "all schools are good school" this i agree regardless is you are sap / whatever st st school / neighbourhood school especially when is only primary level
[1:56 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: a ground fact even for pre school somehow there are a form of rating in the society where school at that level are competing for the branded name they are good school -> from what i see being a good and branded school at that level mean more business for them only and more reason to load extra enrichment lesson for the kids while the school gets a cut
[1:56 pm, 18/04/2023] +Rama: Why!?
[1:56 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Hi Ah Heng,
One school is different from the next, the approach on home work.
Less homework and less exams, will it affect the abilities to do well in the common national exams?
Or tuition will help to patch these gaps!
[1:56 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: others will blame the problem on new immigrants for pushing the standard up
[1:57 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: i disagree on lesshomework or exam will affect the abilities to do well in common exam
[1:57 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: dun forget school is academic only
[1:58 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Don't do well, how to progress to the next level of education?
Thanks, Ah Heng.
[1:58 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: many outsiders and keyboard warriors forget about the psychology of the kids in school some may be late bloomers, some have bad early childhood starting
[1:58 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: From Academic into the real world ...
[1:58 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Yes, late bloomers are forgotten people.
[1:59 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: thus instead of going for your own school banding being the best school and pressured the kids at youg age, i agree with school that take a different approach to install positive learning habits instead which is a long run skill
[1:59 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: which will also be good for the so called life long learning
[1:59 pm, 18/04/2023] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
3. Next come the "Hands part of the Jobs" - which are associated with graduates produced by ITEs - where traditionally they are categorised as "blue collar workers".
4. This aspect of "Hand jobs" often fetch lower salaries and income - partly due to:-
a. The jobs are manual, hard labour.
b. Less sophistication in terms of brainwork - but are needed by the economy, business and households eg. Plumbing work, electrical work, renovation work, construction, lift maintenance, delivery, hawker, technicians, f&b etc.
c. Neighbouring countries can produce such labours at a cheaper rate.
d. Associate with less academically incline.
e. Less glamour attached to such "Hand jobs".
5. Hence, attaching important to such "Hand jobs" and paying them well will need :-
a. A "Mind Shift" - that won't come easily.
b. Willingness to pay locals for such services.
c. Provide recognition to the workers doing hand jobs.
6. It is a good starting point - to highlight this as a new approach to Skill - and start to work towards in ensuring their pay is not too far off the graduates.
7. This serve as an effort to close the social and income status gap and help to ensure our social compact.
[1:59 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Head, Hands-on, Heart...
[2:00 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: if school can reach a status of parents feeling the pressue too and to pulled kids out i dun think is fit to even be ran as a school
[2:00 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: rather call it a concentration camp
[2:00 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Manufacturing...
[2:00 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: school is to learnt values and knowledge not to put your students as part of your KPI chart figures
[2:01 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: How do you see the streaming process? Ah Heng, any other ways?
[2:01 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: if we want to have a generation of new age students then make then embrace learning as a joy and know how to apply these learning in every day life
[2:01 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: streaming should be scrape at pri level
[2:01 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: What is merit?
[2:02 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: keep the streaming to secondary
[2:02 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Secondary 2 or 4?
[2:02 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: whats there to stream at primary level based on what reasoning
[2:02 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: how mature are they
[2:02 pm, 18/04/2023] +REACH: π’ Topic π’
On the first day of the debate on the President’s Address in Parliament, DPM Lawrence Wong covered five key shifts which will be important parts of a refreshed social compact for Singapore, which the nationwide engagement exercise Forward Singapore had been trying to establish.
He also mentioned the importance for both a serious government and opposition for Singapore to develop into a mature democracy. For the Government to do more to strengthen social safety nets and not end up inflicting heavy tax burdens on its citizens, DPM Wong stressed that the Government “will, and must, always be pro-growth and pro-inclusivity”. He also urged the opposition to consider the realities and trade-offs and provide concrete proposals over the course of the …
[2:02 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: whats their psychology maturity to put streaming at their age
[2:03 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: if we are so imerse with cream de la cream hey stop having babies naturally let's dna manufacture them
[2:04 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: a kid is not a product for the country to manipulate
[2:04 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: if the blue blood wants to keep their line fine go ahead dna your blood line
[2:04 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: In economics, numbers and allocations...
[2:05 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: that's why one reason why couple forgo children in their marriage life
[2:05 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: why go thru the stress
[2:05 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: How does Finland, Norway or Denmark do?
[2:05 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: and this is a very sad part of marriage ... going childless
[2:05 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: dun compare what other countries do
[2:05 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Their system of educating....
[2:05 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: each country lives and thrive differently
[2:06 pm, 18/04/2023] +KL: Frankly, I want to have children leh
[2:06 pm, 18/04/2023] +KL: But they open flood gate so wide
[2:06 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: How can we redesign our system?
[2:06 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: we cannot say look how the black ants society are and the red or army ants society are why cannot they live liek each other
[2:06 pm, 18/04/2023] +KL: My pay in 2010 is 2.7K , my parent live in sg not Malaysia
[2:07 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: even if we need to model is take parts of it model and mordify to fit into our society and circle
[2:07 pm, 18/04/2023] +KL: So it placing a lot of dos advancage to local and we need to do ns
[2:07 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: kl again said to say dun bring ns in
[2:07 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: if we do not defend this stupid piece of shit land who else will
[2:08 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: open flood gate and let who the so call ft fight for us
[2:08 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Ok, we acknowledged early bloomers and late bloomers... two extreme ends.
How can we capture most of it?
[2:08 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: and if they shoudl win what happen we become their slaves
[2:08 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: so let's leave NS out cos this is another item on the table to talk out espically with the women hahahahahahahaha
[2:08 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: well is up to the scholars and brains
[2:09 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: they are paid to think about such questions and scenarios
[2:09 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: not in here to feed on our ideas
[2:09 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: we give comments and observation here is very good already though as much as possible many tried to give ideas but frankly the ideas are too high level
[2:10 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: the brains groom and sponsored by the state should be cracking on these social problems
[2:10 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Do you think the H1, H2, H3 system will work?
[2:10 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: we have enuff on our plate as man on the street worrying if we still have income for the next day or next month
[2:11 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Why so much about education?
Education level and Age are two important things to the future of a person ...
[2:11 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: not saying education is not good
[2:11 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: What is a good income and a good earning job?
[2:12 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: and if liek ur mentioned education and age are impt them boy boy boy , our guys in singapore is sure at the looking end
[2:12 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: am sure a good chunk of the male will say after serve ns whatever they learn is gone with time what's their value there
[2:12 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Why losing?
[2:12 pm, 18/04/2023] +KL: U need to ask my ex boss
[2:12 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: those who serve will know
[2:13 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: how fast the social industry move .. example during my time before ns it was office 97
[2:13 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: when i came out is what ms office 2k
[2:13 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Exceptions to defer NS is
Medical, Dentistry and overseas scholarships
[2:14 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: and this is just on general productive apps
[2:14 pm, 18/04/2023] +KL: I got a pass but can’t enter local uni but also can’t defer
[2:14 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: if specialization your skills will be gone
[2:14 pm, 18/04/2023] +KL: So ns is a liability
[2:14 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: and u have to go back to the learning cycle again
[2:15 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: one might says well it does not happens to other sectors maybe like biz admin , arts , finan
[2:15 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: well i believe some impact will happen to those grad....
[2:15 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Do you think if we allow all boys to complete their first degree and then serve their NS?
Or other ways to stay current to knowledge and skills?
[2:15 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: ns is is a knife
[2:15 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: it cuts 2 side
[2:16 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: like mentioned not up to me to think
[2:16 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: i really dun wan to burn my brain cell under this 36 degrees environment today hahaha
[2:16 pm, 18/04/2023] +KL: Frankly I heard asean scholar can get into a same local uni at a lower grade maybe someone can tell me true or false ?
[2:16 pm, 18/04/2023] +KL: It really a hearsay at my end
[2:16 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: but if can echo it is prefer to embrace a more positive learning journey for the primary schoolers
[2:17 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: espically for the p1 to 3
[2:17 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: instill good habits, culture, values and this will go a long way for them not only in their academic years but socially going forward
[2:18 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: helping them both emotionally and mentally
[2:18 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: not like now a bit abit cannot give up , too hard, the environment must change to fit them not they change to fit the environment
[2:19 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: if wanna compare why msian are more versatile then us is the way they are brought up -> no strawberry field they are coconut trees thrieve despite rain or shine
[2:19 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: float to another beach and grow
[2:19 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: and prosperous (children)
[2:19 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: here .. no cannot weather too hot i stop bearing
[2:19 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: worst i gave up (like in china the lie flat aka i call it lie dead and rot generation)
[2:20 pm, 18/04/2023] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Next is the question of a credible opposition.
So far WP strategy is to chip away Incumbent Government seats bit by bit using the following arguments:-
1. Need to check and balance - cannot let the government have free rein (but offer no viable alternatives).
2. We agree with all the policies proposed by the government - but can do a bit more and do better (but unable to propose how to fund - the a bit more, and do better).
3. Disagree with GST tax because it is not a popular choice for voters (but instead propose drawing more and more from the hard earned reserves, using land sales - and leaving less and less to the young and future generations) - by raiding the reserves.
Come the next general election - our incumbent government should pitch the election such as WP must offer a comprehensive alternative governance and policies how to run the government - and not leech on the above strategies - that parasite on the incumbent to enter the Parliament - but not offering a workable 1st class replacement government to the voters.
[2:21 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: i bet my last dollar if opp come to power not within the term we will see singapore up belly
[2:21 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: cos talk is cheap
[2:21 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: action is hard
[2:21 pm, 18/04/2023] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Agree
[2:21 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: not to say the current is the best but between a devil and clown
[2:21 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: i rather take the devil cos devil have planning
[2:21 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: clown just entertain people
[2:21 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: but not care about the results
[2:22 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: thus people have to remember a saying goes having education and qualification does not make you a good or smart person instead it can make one a further idiot or fool
[2:23 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: not every and anything can be quantify by a piece of toilet paper which fade with time
[2:24 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: hard truth people sometimes just peel off the layears in your mind and eye and see things in simplest form (i love my maths terminology now hahaha)
[2:24 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: simplest form will allow us see the root cause and next is do we have the gut to tackle the root cost of cos it need brains to do risk assessment already
[2:25 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: fyi this is not a voice of anger but a voice of what is on the ground and around me
[2:25 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: a voice where i fear for the next generation and generations to come
[2:26 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: what is to be of them .....
[2:26 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: to kl -> i wish you will find your light soon and have a kid
[2:26 pm, 18/04/2023] +KL: Too late
[2:26 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: is really a joy to have one in a family though the road is not easy and taxing .....
[2:26 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: hey nothing is too late
[2:27 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: rumour have it carina lau that old faded hk actress
[2:27 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: she is 2 mths preggy
[2:27 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: hahahahaha
[2:27 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: so believe in yourself
[2:27 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Human brains work on passion, pre-wired memory towards numbers, language and facts.
These spectrums of variety, we have to acknowledge and find ways to fit all students at various age...
[2:27 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Sciences and liberal Arts
[2:28 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: In order to derive a divest pool of talented young people to contribute to our country.
[2:28 pm, 18/04/2023] +KL: Thanks for the encouragement, btw if no kids and asset singles won’t protect the land after bonnet not ard
[2:28 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: and with the forth coming AI services what will really become of our society if we keep harpping we have no talents people in so many sector of the industry
[2:29 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: what all become delivery personnel / phv drivers servicing the talents working here?
[2:29 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: How to reeducate or revamp, the AI world of tomorrow!
[2:29 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: very true, i will not hide by saying nice things
[2:29 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: what is there for single to defend
[2:29 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: even if born and breed here .. for what ......
[2:30 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: give that person a reason, especially if the family is all himself only ... that moment it will be more of survival than loyalty to country
[2:30 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: have we not see saving pte ryan
[2:30 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: why the army wants to save him
[2:31 pm, 18/04/2023] +KL: Btw can someone tell me why she can get PR ?
[2:31 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: despite his mum still around because he is the only surviving of his brothers others might say is not right but not to the US army in that movie (note in that move only ahhh not now real life)
[2:31 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: cos she married to a singaporean if not wrong
[2:32 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: this one got kids de hor
[2:32 pm, 18/04/2023] +KL: Thanks
[2:32 pm, 18/04/2023] +KL: At least I not angry if that the case
[2:32 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: and 1) do not discriminate her just because she was from siam diu at least she earn living
[2:32 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: 2) she single handed raise her kids
[2:33 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: at least is not wofl in lamps cloth come here pretend to study and work den skip off to another country
[2:33 pm, 18/04/2023] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Anyway to quote an example of "Meritocracy by Skills" instead of academic achievements.
Let us use DBS and Immigration system as examples:-
[2:33 pm, 18/04/2023] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Scary to think DBS has such long service outage. ICA checkpoints system also has problems
[2:33 pm, 18/04/2023] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
DBS sounds like a design problem.
Because when I design NAF for Singpass to be access by all government services, I use the same ACS and DSSS used by DBS.
But I use server load balancer to support 4 ACS VMs and 2 DSSS - using virtual IP not static IP.
And I also use global load balancer to allow remote user to hit the Virtual IP.
If one ACS server or VM is down, it will hit the next available server or VM via the virtual IP.
I suspect DBS use static IP.
When the server go down, it got to change the static IP to backup server.
Poor design - active-passive.
Mine is active-active.
[2:33 pm, 18/04/2023] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
ICA system according to straits times is doing system upgrade and mess up - cannot roll back in time.
If use active upgrade on primary to ensure it work - if not fall back to secondary - it will not cause 5 hours downtime.
I have done quite a few systems upgrade before.
The last being with ASM using this approach whereby though Singapore is off peak, US and EU are peak period - running production manufacturing.
But no down time reported when I do a system upgrade.
[2:34 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: well check who are the IT providers for dbs and ica .. am not surprise somehwere u will find NCS and if you go to NCS see what sort of talents they have there
[2:34 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: how many locals actually walk out of NCS many many donkey years ago
[2:35 pm, 18/04/2023] +Rama: Ceca Indian, PRC and Pinoy
[2:35 pm, 18/04/2023] +Rama: π³π
[2:35 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: if anyone says they are using active passive for mission cirtiical system goes i wonder how these talents can survived .. i believe our poly folks will fair better then to put active -passive for such mission critical real time system
[2:37 pm, 18/04/2023] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Cannot confirm if active passive - but deduce based on what is described in the news.
The characteristics described look like active passive.
[2:38 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: or it could be a dbase corruption thus it take time to recover
[2:38 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: but i doubt so is active passive cos their services in fact was still running when i learnt of the outage it was after 30mins or so after i learnt of teh outage that the services stop
[2:39 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: but only they internally will know
[2:48 pm, 18/04/2023] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Designing active active needs alot of consideration and knowledge:-
1. Inter-dependency of web-apps-database.
2. Global load balancer of remote web hit - whether using round robin, weighted average etc.
3. Server load balancer to balance redundant VMs or servers.
4. SAN storage to ensure redundant database, data integrity and redundancy.
5. Dummy injection to ensure web-apps-database uptime - and if down - route to other web-apps-database.
6. DBS evidently fail at the authentication level - not the database - because it prevents login and fail at the authentication level+ thus cannot access paylah, DBS sign in page, DBS apps.
The authentication are performed by the ACS (Authentication Control Server) and the DSSS system.
Rightfully, if remote user hit this set of ACS and DSSS if fail, server load balancer should have marked this set as down, and load balance to another active set.
Global load balancer should also do likewise.
In active-active - using virtual IP.
But if active passive, 1 set fail, the IT people need to reconfigure the IP to the backup set of ACS and DSSS - which involves downtime.
This is active passive.
In active-active - we can guarantee 99.99% ACS and 99.999% DSSS.
Virtually no down time.
[2:54 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: suddenly the chat evolev into IT hahahahha
[2:54 pm, 18/04/2023] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
An example of Meritocracy by Skills and not by academic achievements.
[2:56 pm, 18/04/2023] +Wai Xin: now NCS pulled a lot of accenture folks over...
[2:57 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: IT is have to be by skills really
[2:57 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: i have interview a ccne person before
[2:57 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: really give up hope
[2:57 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: simple IT troubleshooting also cannot provision give me all the complex stuff
[2:57 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: reason -> not enuff experienced
[2:57 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: accenture we all also know is many FT
[2:58 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: ft is so call good in their coding but i every see their coding before which totally fail - alot of hardcode variable
[2:58 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: in the end the whole program had to be rewrite by local
[2:59 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: but now they clear go to the internet to source and mordify abit -talent in deed , well our student are learning well also hahahahaa
[3:03 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: 18 April, 2023
Psychometric Tests?
It is a unique aptitude test to assess student interests, values and strengths. This test is an alignment of their unique strengths to suitable/possible career pathways.
The results include greater self-awareness, confidence and motivation as they work towards tangible and meaningful career pathways.
- - in progress - -
[3:04 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: but these test cannot work on lower prim cos they are kids, might be good to work on p5 and p6 each year take 1
[3:04 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: same for secondary school
[3:05 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: something like a self kpi to help see if oneself is on track of one's objective
[3:05 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: and help gear to like mentioned maybe suitable/possible career pathways.
[3:06 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: is a good self reflection -> include greater self-awareness, confidence and motivation as they work towards tangible and meaningful career pathways.
something like those leadership course .....
[3:06 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: lower primary maybe can design one that is gear towards how much fun they have in learning etc
[3:06 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: something to spur them to keep on that positive and fire burning attitude in life
[3:07 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Upper secondary.
[3:08 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: can also cos by them they will have something in their head as to what they wanna do already
[3:08 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: but i feel this might be one of a good self assessment anuual for them also
[3:08 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: for school children to let them ask themselves how they feel
[3:08 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: There are various tests in the market, though all are pretty good in sizing up a candidate area of strength...
[3:08 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: reduce mental stress sometimes also
[3:09 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: they might even luff at themselves when comparing results from past
[3:09 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: school for primary is about fun and learning
[3:09 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: secondary is about acquiring level up skills for versus situation
[3:10 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: From these results, teachers, MOE and policymakers will direct the correct resources, modules and methods to raise a student's potential and further their abilities!
[3:10 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: poly or jc is more of gaining professional skills to face off in the society
[3:11 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: End of year 4 or sec 4 including ITE and...is a turning point for our emerging workforce!
[3:12 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Better footings in terms of science, Arts or engineering...
[3:13 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: ITE students matters too!
Before their enrolment into a course or specialty skills!
[3:15 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: At Sec 4, students either proceed to JC or Poly...this sizing up test will help the students than "going to school in hope to score As or die lor"?
There must be a target, an achievable end and a meaningful day to day of a student's life!
Isn't it important?
[3:15 pm, 18/04/2023] +Jimmy Chew: Some know how to game psycho test hahaha. The cunning ones. Proven by on of our sales manager. He ask what type of profile we want and he got it for us.. sales, admin etc hahaha
[3:16 pm, 18/04/2023] +Jimmy Chew: Singaporeans every goodie good and obedient and trusts the government and people. That's why Lots of folks get scammed
[3:17 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: if can suggest will prefer to do it at sec 2 starts to alert them and bring light to their eyes and mind
[3:17 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: o yeah hahahaha thus mentioned easier to say den done
[3:17 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Is not a prerequisite into JC or Poly or the best ITE course...
Is about a student suitable in pursuit of Maths, Sciences or Liberal Arts and the end is to land a MATCHABLE TO OWN LIKING OR INTERESTING JOB than mismatch and feel like neither here nor there feelings?
[3:18 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: when u ask these high flyers on assessment do, sometimes is the other way side of the plate
[3:19 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: With extra passion, any human will do well and even excel in their scope of expertise! We will call it TALENT AND TALENTED!
[3:21 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: A job is just another job!
A responsible person with pride will see his or her job as MORE THAN a 9 to 5 task!
Chef, Chief, Artisan!
Passion spur creativity! Any Job!
[3:21 pm, 18/04/2023] +Jimmy Chew: Haha two Schools of thought..go for your passion or go for your strength. They now advocating go down your strengths
[3:21 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Passion+ Strength wins!
[3:22 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: This test will identify the strength and where the HIDDEN PASSIONS!
[3:23 pm, 18/04/2023] +Jimmy Chew: Human beings are complex. No psycho test can do it accurately
[3:23 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: You need to be motivated or like to care for the Elderly or sick patients!
Money and promotions will only push this person that far!
Where are the PUSH FACTORS!
[3:23 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: PULL FACTORS?
Passion!
[3:25 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: These tests are pretty accurate though not 100%
The idea is to NARROW the choices, this case is learning and getting a relevant education to thrive and hopefully through passion this person will embark on a lifetime of upskilling!
[3:25 pm, 18/04/2023] +Jimmy Chew: Lots of social workers, I know, it's anecdotal, in the olden days gave up because their pay cannot feed the family . Now it's different
[3:26 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: If a person is afraid of blood, how to be a Frontline person or doctor?
These tests will shine a few spots of hope or likeness!
[3:26 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: smiley face -> if you got contacts with thos ein the ivory tower can suggest to them to design something that is gear to our local student
[3:27 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: primary school also can take but make it fun and self awakening
[3:27 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: while secondary gear towards what they shoudl do with their stregth and weakeness
[3:27 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Social workers pay scale needs to be adjusted, teachers too!
These heart to heart workers have the passion and the heart!
[3:27 pm, 18/04/2023] +Jimmy Chew: I heard Harvard professors change their specialties every 10 years haha because they lose their passion
[3:28 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Possible at P6, a not so detailed test.
On the whole, it does say a person's passion and strength.
[3:29 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Academia loves to study, research and they read alot!
[3:29 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Inventor loves to try the unknowns!
[3:29 pm, 18/04/2023] +Jimmy Chew: Some parents upset so early segregate them
[3:29 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Professionals love to maintain the Status quo
[3:30 pm, 18/04/2023] +Jimmy Chew: ?
[3:30 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: yeah p3 can do a super simple wan like how they few learning , do they enjoy learning etc to keep that flame of learning in them
[3:30 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Is not segregation but a preliminary assessment than DANCING IN THE DARK?
[3:30 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: such assement is not a test nor segmentation
[3:31 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: is like a self review and see how one view himself or herself
[3:31 pm, 18/04/2023] +Jimmy Chew: For sure if your parents are professionals there will be a desire to explore and learn
[3:31 pm, 18/04/2023] +Jimmy Chew: Making an assumption
[3:31 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: no ley some parents are taxi drivers some wakers yet can become minister also hahahaa
[3:31 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Do they love numbers, counting and solving maths...
Do they love music or painting?
Do they love facts?
How they see animals as pet or part of the ecosystem?
[3:31 pm, 18/04/2023] +Jimmy Chew: Wakers?
[3:32 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: i mean hawkers
[3:32 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: These simple questions will open up passion and views in their little world !
[3:32 pm, 18/04/2023] +Jimmy Chew: All this depends on tiger mama
[3:32 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: wakers also can those in the funeral business but not the business owners but helpers hahahahah that one no need education one just know custom of chinese can liao
[3:33 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: yeap it will give them an insight to themselves
[3:33 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: or can do peer review
[3:33 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: in a fun way but that is dangerous cos u know p3 still kiddy mindset and they like to prank each other so self review is best
[3:33 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: For funeral directors or workers...you need a sense of heart and guts!
Are you afraid of dead bodies?
[3:33 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: i think somewhere in my school days i got self review also but it was short lived
[3:34 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: haiyah u think the workers care they just know respect the dead
[3:34 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: and u see most o fthe one running the shouw are old timers cos they know the do and don't
[3:34 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: dam respect them
[3:34 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: they like encyclopedia
[3:34 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: and can move with time
[3:35 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Parents can also calibrate their resources and nurturing efforts more meaningful than....
All must play piano or violin or go swim or go tennis or go ballet?
[3:35 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: If no music skills, sure lose to others?
[3:36 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Can we see these uncalibrated thinking's?
[3:36 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: In the army daze, "anyhow cheong or charging blindingly"...
[3:39 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Ah Heng, you mentioned earlier about private Ryan...
How about the hamburger hill story?
What happened at the top of that penggat hill?
[3:39 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: hamburger hill i forget the story liao
[3:40 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: impt is parents must return kids time to kids
[3:40 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Almost all died just cheong cheong Cheong up the hill lor .. metaphor
[3:40 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: let them have fun tv time play time destory time kenna wack time by parents
[3:40 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: thats kids life
[3:40 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: not everyday and every hour go here and there for enrichment will go crazy wan
[3:41 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: aiya any war show also will have that portion else cannot stir emo
[3:41 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: i think saving pte ryan also have
[3:41 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: the beach landing
[3:41 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: or one of the latest 2nd world war show
[3:42 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: nvm 3rd ww coming can see live action
[3:42 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: save movie ticket and production fees
[3:47 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Meritocracy, this misinterpreted word amazed millions and mist the true essence of Merits!
Having the highest education will secure a person's life and probably sit high up the ladder of Merits and society?
While millions are blinded by this equation of the more I attain, the more I outcompete all, literally the entire society or sector of an economy equals I succeed because I'm earning a lot more?
Is also true that income does help in many ways to uplift a person or the family a better and more comfortable livings condition.
[3:49 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: Is also true that income does help in many ways to uplift a person or the family a better and more comfortable livings condition. -> this one is 100% true lah
[3:49 pm, 18/04/2023] +Ah Heng: those cannot of cos got to make the best of their situation
[3:50 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: The reward and compensation systems must be CHANGED especially for the middle and below...
Or it will be business as usual of the people who are having it and the bigger pool of people haven't yet?
[3:51 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Is a trap and will become a stage of entrapment!
[3:51 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: How we untrap?
[3:52 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Costs factor!
[3:54 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Society is willing to pay a specialist doctor in the amount of thousands or hundreds of thousands to save lives!
Society is willing to pay a nurse a couple thousands to take care 24/7
[3:56 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Society acknowledged a doctor years of studying and the limited time to crawl back lost time through Income! In finance, the term is ROI?
[3:57 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: A nurse too spent years studying and actual experience, in order to stand as a senior staff nurse?
[3:59 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: An architect loves designing and drawing things, and spent just as long a time to attain recognition.
A builder or contractor spent long hours under the sun and rain to ensure the building is straight and safe, what's their income?
[4:01 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: A primary school teacher loves kids like pets, a professor is very professed with his or her specialty.
How to pay the teacher and the professor, both are important TEACHERS to all students?
[4:03 pm, 18/04/2023] +REACH: π’ Topic π’
On the first day of the debate on the President’s Address in Parliament, DPM Lawrence Wong covered five key shifts which will be important parts of a refreshed social compact for Singapore, which the nationwide engagement exercise Forward Singapore had been trying to establish.
He also mentioned the importance for both a serious government and opposition for Singapore to develop into a mature democracy. For the Government to do more to strengthen social safety nets and not end up inflicting heavy tax burdens on its citizens, DPM Wong stressed that the Government “will, and must, always be pro-growth and pro-inclusivity”. He also urged the opposition to consider the realities and trade-offs and provide concrete proposals over the course of the …
[4:03 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: To those who attain the high or the highest fruits of success aka at the top of the world, they will Merit it all!
[4:14 pm, 18/04/2023] +Jimmy Chew: Free and easy vs hardworking and success
[4:14 pm, 18/04/2023] +Jimmy Chew: Not all are created equal
[4:18 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Abilities the decider? Correct or not?
Thanks, Jimmy
[4:20 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: What if we pay a school teacher relatively higher compared to two years back?
Will this teacher be more charged up and energized?
Or will this teacher rather resign and be a Private tutor which can pay more, the teacher productive time?
[4:21 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: How to ENERGIZE many teams ?
[4:22 pm, 18/04/2023] +Jimmy Chew: Also opportunity. Mentor. Parents. Money.. choices. Some say luck. The right timing. Not so easy to identify. If not all of us super successful π
[4:22 pm, 18/04/2023] +Jimmy Chew: What is successful?
[4:22 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Yes, luck matters too!
[4:24 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: How we pay teachers, nurses, military men, firemen, so on...
Value can mean how valuable a person is to the larger community, society and a country as a whole?
Value and Merit and Valuable
[4:25 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: Besides lucky lucky and good timing...
Do we believe in Fate or fated to be a teacher?
[4:45 pm, 18/04/2023] +Kenneth Lee WM: In terms of school facilities and MOE teachers assigned to schools, agree that they are all good and similar.
However, education is more than scholastic merit. The culture of a school and the values transferred to the students are different. The school principal sets the tone; principals are determined by the school board.
Eg Mission schools vs non mission schools
[5:09 pm, 18/04/2023] +Dan: Subject based banding are introduced recently showing that late bloomers are not forgotten. Meaning Normal (A) or Normal (T) can attend the same class with Express pupils if they have the aptitude.
But given the complexity of pupils from various background, its difficult to identify pupils who are gg through life crisis if the class is too big. Take for instance RV incident is a good wake up call for MOE. We are calling for digitalisation at a large scale, but we also need to deal with the harms of technology that comes tgt with it.
[5:19 pm, 18/04/2023] +Dan: Another group I fear that we missed out are our PG or MG. These are the ones who worked hard and spent most of their lives contributing to the economy. During then, their income were able to sustain their retirement, but with inflation, many desperately look for alternate source of income. That makes them vulnerable to scams. Its not greed. Its their will to survive.
As nation progress, ultimately we tell ourselves we are thankful for their contribution, but we will never be a welfare state to support them.
Mr Lawrence had asked ppl to think for others (collectively as a society, and not individually). If you add the points up, are you asking people to help G to aid PG and MG in their own capacity?
[5:22 pm, 18/04/2023] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Another scam attempt.
[5:34 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: The students and teacher ratio matters, likewise for universities too.
some top overseas universities have smaller class sizes and the fees don't come cheap!
What's the quality of teachings and the learnings?
[6:00 pm, 18/04/2023] +REACH: π’ Topic π’
On the first day of the debate on the President’s Address in Parliament, DPM Lawrence Wong covered five key shifts which will be important parts of a refreshed social compact for Singapore, which the nationwide engagement exercise Forward Singapore had been trying to establish.
He also mentioned the importance for both a serious government and opposition for Singapore to develop into a mature democracy. For the Government to do more to strengthen social safety nets and not end up inflicting heavy tax burdens on its citizens, DPM Wong stressed that the Government “will, and must, always be pro-growth and pro-inclusivity”. He also urged the opposition to consider the realities and trade-offs and provide concrete proposals over the course of the …
[6:08 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: 18 April, 2023
"Merits in the Real World Order"
Is it abilities, choices, or luck, or timing, or fate that decides a person's life and lifetime of achievements or sufferings?
How about finding success and searching for happiness in anyone's lifetime?
Should human seek contentment and find happiness only through themselves by not comparing to other people successes?
Nature vs Nurture?
A teacher decided to quit and go solo as a private tutor. Later on, the teacher again decided to open a tuition centre and years of hardworking and proven methods of teaching, opened many branches! As for the teacher's ex colleagues, some retired, some became tutors and the rest still continued teaching at various schools.
Likewise, the architect became famous and tried t…
[6:14 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: "In life.., there is no need for the opposition unless the proposition cannot find the opposite and entrapped between the right and the left of matters...?"
- - anonymity
[6:18 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: One way to broaden the Merit system is to relook at all pay scales, at the entry point and into the mid point!
Will the Private sectors pay according to these new pay scales? We assumed that our Public employers will champion this big exercise of narrowing these pay gaps, entry point and mid point.
[6:30 pm, 18/04/2023] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
When the service still running but not performing as usual - some system could already be down and not updating correctly.
For example, remote user can access the web but apps could be down and can't process.
Or web and apps could be up but database is down but cannot update.
Hence only :-
1. tie the web-apps-database interdependency via the load balancer thru coding.
2. Do dummy injection periodically to determine web-apps-database uptime.
3. Server load balancer update global load balancer 3DNS about the health and availability among the availability of 4 sets of active active web-apps-database - then we can be very sure the DBS system is healthy or not.
4. Many critical systems I come across don't have such veracity of system design to ensure high availability.
[6:37 pm, 18/04/2023] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
For 3. If global load balancer 3DNS are updated by the server load balancer of the down web-apps-database - it will redirect remote user to a healthy set and not the unhealthy set that give intermittent access with errors.
The DBS system will look healthy at all time even though the primary set could be down.
IT staff can then replace the faulty set without any impact or downtime to the users - giving the impression that DBS system is always up.
Free consultancy service.
[6:45 pm, 18/04/2023] +REACH: Dear Contributors,
⏰ We will be closing the chat in 15 minutes ⏰
Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Goodnight!
Megan π
[6:48 pm, 18/04/2023] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Note :- even if DBS is using cloud services instead of physical servers, DBS can use such approach by tying up the VMs (Virtual Machines) acting as physical servers.
[6:59 pm, 18/04/2023] +Smiley face: 18 April, 2023
A Little Life Story!
"There is Hope in Human...in moments of despair and disappointment!"
- - anonymity
Dozen years ago, in a private dinner at the Peak, a famous Asian tycoon once said to a young man, "do whatever your mind tells you to do and do it excellently and do not be bothered by your neighbors, friends and peers!...do not lament nor envy, be humble, hardworking and do things that nobody wants to do! Find opportunities that others cannot see because they were too busy finding endless things with no object and no consciousness! Heaven will bless you according to your deeds!"
Are these true and applicable?
This older man still believed and remembered till today and the valuable advice!
- - in progress - -
[7:00 pm, 18/04/2023] +REACH: Dear Contributors,
We will be closing the chat for today.
Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Goodnight!
Megan π
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