REACH 386 - What are your views on the newly inaugurated Gambling Regulatory Authority? How can we better regulate the boundary between gambling and gaming?
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17 Aug 2022 (10am - 7pm)
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[9:59 am, 17/08/2022] +REACH: ๐ข Topic ๐ข
At the inauguration ceremony on Tuesday (Aug 16), Mrs Josephine Teo, Second Minister for Home Affairs, said the formation of the Gambling Regulatory Authority (GRA) is an important next step for gambling regulation in Singapore given how the landscape will be very different in five years.
Mrs Teo, who is also Minister for Communications and Information, noted how technology developments have made it easier for people to gamble any time and anywhere, widening the scale and scope of online gambling. Shifting consumer preferences have also given rise to new gambling products and the boundaries between gambling and gaming have blurred, she said.
๐ฌ What are your views on the newly inaugurated Gambling Regulatory Authority? How can we better regulate the boundary between gambling and gaming?
The GRA will regulate a sweeping range of gambling services, including those offered in casinos and lotteries, as well as sports betting and loot boxes in online video games. The authority will be further empowered under the Gambling Control Act, which took effect this month, to regulate online gambling platforms and take action against advertisements promoting illegal services.
Counsellors and gaming experts said the move to strengthen regulation will address the higher risks posed by online gambling and ensure social safeguards are in place. Parents The Straits Times spoke to also noted that "This legislation sends a signal to kids to recognise that gaming platforms can be fun, but also pose dangers."
๐๐ผ https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/gambling-regulatory-authority-inaugurated-in-spore-as-new-products-emerge
๐๐ผ https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/tackling-illegal-gambling-websites-a-game-of-cat-and-mouse-but-new-spore-regulator-more-empowered
๐๐ผ https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/new-gambling-laws-including-legalising-social-gambling-to-take-effect-from-aug-1
๐๐ผ https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/mps-raise-concerns-about-emerging-forms-of-gambling-as-law-is-updated
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[10:01 am, 17/08/2022] +Uncle Law: Thru ISPs, IP addresses of these illegal sites to be banned
[10:39 am, 17/08/2022] +REACH: Dear Contributors,
We’d love to hear MORE FROM YOU on today’s topic!
๐ฌ What are your views on the newly inaugurated Gambling Regulatory Authority? How can we better regulate the boundary between gambling and gaming?
We have had good feedback from this group, and we hope that we can keep the discussion robust and active!
Megan ๐
[10:46 am, 17/08/2022] +Poh S. Lim: Yesterday I had a GRA interviewer come by my home to conduct a public survey. Looks like they’re working hard to get stakeholder views…
[10:49 am, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: 17 August, 2022
To: Our Distinguished Leaders and All Honorable Members
Physical and Virtual Gamings and Gamblings - Game of Chances (่พ่ตข，ๆฏๆบไผๆธธๆๅ?)
A Game of Chances (uncalculated):
Physical-
Physical gambling habits existed since mankind known of the win/loose concept.
It is easier to apprehend these habits or behaviors especially there are illegal and infringing to a set of rules or laws, differs from society to another.
"That's about that much for using the stick versus the carrots...!"
- - annoymous
Virtual -
Virtual Gamings and or Gamblings, these are new perspectives of this highly dependant on digits and digitised new world !
Simply put it, such physical vice activities are mostly happening to older people say 45 yrs and above. For the Virtual vice activities, perhaps are more attractive to 45 yrs and especially younger people.
How to control such undesirable and disruptive leisure behaviors from implosions? It is virtually impossible to stop these on-line activities that will not only lead to more compulsive gamblings and the dire strait of a bigger corridor into a full colors of vices.
"when things go underground, you best go to the grounds...?"
- - annoymous
One way to slow down these undesirable habits is to start conditioning from 6 years old till the end of a child's educational journey. What are the methods and steps to achieve favorable outcomes for our future seek? It will need thorough thinking to structure a teachable and importantly believable messages and means, from one age group to the next? The need to inform and teach the downsides of gaming turning into the ultimate behavior of the disastrous game of chances. Should we not address swiftly this social issue, that itself will turn itself into a new generation of gamblers than ideally a better choice of being a calculated risk taker!
- - in progress - -
[10:52 am, 17/08/2022] +Lock: Yes me too!
[11:21 am, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: 17 August, 2022
The Clicking Behaviors and The Unintended Consequences of the Digital Credits and Monies.
Beginner's Luck:
These days when you buy things, you simply click and go, done!
If you extend these conveniences of paying for your daily necessities and so onto other means... Wouldn't these simple psychology of conveniences conditioned itself to be accessible to many other services, this case it all started as a beginner's luck of WINNING your first click?
"Who wants to be a loser...?"
Winners' World:
In the world of gaming, is about the SELF challenges to garner more credit score and ELEVATING to higher levels of a digital gaming environmental. What if these ADRENALINES drive beyond one's imagination into more unintended behaviors like turning credits earned into digital monies, it doesn't matters if there are fake monies! It is the THRILL of winnings and the reinforcements of coming out as a winner that is the evil of these experiences and exposure.
Law alone will not deter this determinant of winnings!
- - in progress - -
[0:59 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: 17 August, 2022
How To Call It Quit?
The Die Hards:
How do you recruit Innocent people into drugs? You offer Free drugs to them...
How do you entice new players or gamblers into the pit?
You offer everyone free credits or false money...
How you sustain these gaming/gambling wants (needs)?
These sophisticated AI Virtual platforms will monitor and through complex algorithms, and on few occasions, justifying petty wins in order to keep the passion for HOPE alive "firing up" (aka ROI or hit rates)!
Point of No Return:
Until a given timeline, these addicted gamers or gamblers peddle into the vast ocean of hopeless and lost horizon. So, what will happen next: further vices or the route to self-destruction? This endgame may cost lives or livelihoods!
[1:22 pm, 17/08/2022] +REACH: Singapore aims to have 40% of working-age persons with disabilities employed by 2030
More: https://str.sg/wRHb
[1:25 pm, 17/08/2022] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
My close friend comments:-
1. What are the overlaps between the new GRA and existing CRA (casino regulatory authority)?
2. From a layman's standpoint, expand CRA to become GRA. Or CRA can subsume under GRA - since CRA is to do with physical gambling premises and GRA is to do with online gambling - but essentially they share the same goals and objectives of curbing gambling?
3. Else 2 authorities will have more overhead. Eg. many functions can be shared such as HR, Finance, formulation of policies, regulations etc
[1:28 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: This Good headstarts PWDs initiative coupled with the CPF contributions will further secures and stabilizes for this segment of disabled people. Inclusively as a thriving, caring and a forward nation in continuous move.
[1:32 pm, 17/08/2022] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Views on Gambling
1. 1stly, I will like to voice my stands on gambling.
2. Gambling whether online or physical - is against my values - as it takes time away from productive work, and will feed addiction.
Also gambling feed greed - hoping to win money through luck - rather than productive efforts --- and often most gamblers will land themselves into financial trouble - by losing all their hard earn savings and many borrow from illegal moneylenders, cheat others to feed their gambling addiction and land them into trouble with the law.
3, Hence, my views is to "ban" online gambling.
As for physical gambling such as toto, 4D, or casinos permitted by the Government - strong social safeguards must be put in place to prevent people from getting addicted to gambling and land themselves into financial trouble.
For myself, my family members, my sibling families - we forbid gambling of any form.
[1:37 pm, 17/08/2022] +Valli: Side step on this topic:
The India Government are taking steps to meet stakeholders for adoption of common charger for all devices.
Singapore should also consider this moving forward to a sustainable future.
[1:42 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: Encourage self discipline or further tightening and legislate ?
How to achieve?
[2:01 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: 17 August, 2022
So where are the Attractions?
Physical gamblings are fixed and quantifiable. Virtual gambling are variables and easily qualifiable.
How then can one society or a thriving metropolis peddle in-between and pull the fixed away from the variables and manage the variables?
For one successful metropolis, it must posses a few attractive drivers besides education, jobs, good housings, skilled people, technologies, greens, law and order, and higher standards of living. It also needs to have excellent AVENUES for entertainment (measured and legal). Simply put it, would you or your family lives and works in a boring city or country, no work-play balance?
- - in progress - -
[2:03 pm, 17/08/2022] +REACH: ๐ข Topic ๐ข
At the inauguration ceremony on Tuesday (Aug 16), Mrs Josephine Teo, Second Minister for Home Affairs, said the formation of the Gambling Regulatory Authority (GRA) is an important next step for gambling regulation in Singapore given how the landscape will be very different in five years.
Mrs Teo, who is also Minister for Communications and Information, noted how technology developments have made it easier for people to gamble any time and anywhere, widening the scale and scope of online gambling. Shifting consumer preferences have also given rise to new gambling products and the boundaries between gambling and gaming have blurred, she said.
๐ฌ What are your views on the newly inaugurated Gambling Regulatory Authority? How can we better regulate the boundary between gambling and gaming?
The GRA will regulate a sweeping range of gambling services, including those offered in casinos and lotteries, as well as sports betting and loot boxes in online video games. The authority will be further empowered under the Gambling Control Act, which took effect this month, to regulate online gambling platforms and take action against advertisements promoting illegal services.
Counsellors and gaming experts said the move to strengthen regulation will address the higher risks posed by online gambling and ensure social safeguards are in place. Parents The Straits Times spoke to also noted that "This legislation sends a signal to kids to recognise that gaming platforms can be fun, but also pose dangers."
๐๐ผ https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/gambling-regulatory-authority-inaugurated-in-spore-as-new-products-emerge
๐๐ผ https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/tackling-illegal-gambling-websites-a-game-of-cat-and-mouse-but-new-spore-regulator-more-empowered
๐๐ผ https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/new-gambling-laws-including-legalising-social-gambling-to-take-effect-from-aug-1
๐๐ผ https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/mps-raise-concerns-about-emerging-forms-of-gambling-as-law-is-updated
[2:04 pm, 17/08/2022] +SLWhitelist the registered and legitimate online entertainment industry (gambling) and block those not registered with GRA Singapore-wide with cooperation from CSA and ISP. This will reduce a significant number of players accessing the illegal webpage from home and allow GRA to manage those registered.
[2:08 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: Hi SL,
Here you blocked, next few days elsewhere pops a brand new blocks...
Only if, members of public or the cyber anti-vice closed them on time.
Then this process will start all over again...
Let's think of how to nap it.
[2:09 pm, 17/08/2022] +SLGRA maybe need to work with digital game platform providers to block the players from Singapore from accessing those games containing betting and loot boxes that did not comply with GSA regulations. The amount payable via the payment gateway to illegal, masks game with gambling should be blocked by banks after being investigated by SPF based on the tip-off from residents.
[2:13 pm, 17/08/2022] +SL:Unless its hosting countries' law enforcers took down the server, this type of website would continue to exit with its name Constant changed. The current effective way is to continue monitoring and blocking. The profit is too lucrative for the operators to continue to doing so.
[2:15 pm, 17/08/2022] +SL:https://www.interpol.int/en/News-and-Events/News/2021/Illegal-gambling-Operation-SOGA-VIII-leads-to-1-400-arrests
Interpol continue operations and the activity remains
[2:15 pm, 17/08/2022] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Online Gambling
1. For online gambling, my view is that Government will have completely no control over the gambling as many online gambling sites are developed overseas and they operate 24/7.
Hence a large amount of hard earned money from Singaporeans will be lost overseas as it is not possible to impose social safeguards to manage how Singaporeans and Singapore residents gamble online 24/7.
2. Unlike physical gambling sites like 4D, toto, lucky sweep and casinos - Government can impose stringent social safeguards to regulate and control Singaporeans and residents gambling habits to prevent addiction and landing themselves into financial trouble and wreck their families.
3. Also gambling revenue collected from these legalised gambling outlets will be used by our Government to plough back into our Society to finance social programmes and activities that will benefit our people.
4. Hence, if the stand is to "ban" online gambling - that Government will be unable to control - then blocking of all online gambling sites and sites that disguise as onling gaming sites will be required.
This can be done by working with IMDA, ISP, ASP, Telcos, Cloud Providers etc to :-
a. Blacklist all well known gambling sites URL or IP addresses by firewall.
b. Block gambling or gaming websites through content filtering - by Content Filtering Software devices or Proxy.
c. Use AI, Machine Learning, Deep Learning to look deep into the content of the online gambling and gaming sites - to determine if they are indeed gambling and require players to dump in money to play.
5. Maintain continuous surveillance to block new gambling or gaming sites with gambling content that pop up.
6. By doing so, essentially most of the gambling and gaming sites with gambling contents will be effectively block and protect our people from accessing the online undesirable gambling sites.
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[2:23 pm, 17/08/2022] +danielhl chua: How can we protect these group of employees from possible abuse (from co-workers or customers). Most of the jobs are front-line, customer oriented, I really hoped these workers can change the trend of fast-paced Singapore and customers can learn to be more patient with these staff, rather than adopting Karen attitude.
[2:24 pm, 17/08/2022] +SL: There are more advanced methods of online gambling that may not involve loot boxes and sports betting, which anti-gambling authorities need to research the practical way of controlling the activities.
Advertisements deployed from a legitimate company are the easiest targets to be required by authorities to comply with regulations. There are many advertisements deployed by malware and codes.
[2:33 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: The number ONE by ranking for organised global syndication for cyber crime activities is ROC.
These highly organised structures with organic and existing legit fronts.
More to reveal but not appropriate in this chat.
Disclaimer: not suggesting or incriminating a nation or its people, solely for the purposes of casual talks....
[2:37 pm, 17/08/2022] +SLI m not sure about the effective rate of end-user antivirus software deployment in Singapore.
Technically, antivirus software can block advertisement popup, malicious code, and software and stop URLs for individual devices (technically, commercial, and personal antivirus software do not have this feature on iOS mobile as compared to android mobile).
[2:42 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: Hi SL, a good point raised...
Microsoft, Google, Apple, Nvidia, Quadcomm and chipmakers to embed blocking mechanisms...is it possible for theses Big tech stakeholders to undertake a ESG approach in sync?
[2:44 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: These vice platforms are fixed and humans are the variable...
Approach at ground zero, .that is at the mobile devices level.
[2:47 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face:: Two key areas,...
One is high intensity use of graphics.
Two is the frequency of counting process.
There is grey area, Internet shopping sites.
How to differential both, that is legit activities and illegal activities?
[2:48 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: Amplitude may be a key differentiator in identifying this site from the next one...
[2:52 pm, 17/08/2022] Smiley face: Cyber Patrolling:
Assumes scanning the minutes Internet highway for up to 30 million devices from PERSONAL to groups, a population of 6 millions. A super computer will fit in.
The intensity, frequency and amplitude may signal a potential Red Flag site?
[2:53 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: Clouds and Telco
[2:59 pm, 17/08/2022] ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Online gaming
1. My initial view on online gaming is - gaming is wasting time. Only for leisure or for relaxation after one day hard work or study. But people especially youngsters can get addicted to online gaming.
2. Thus my initial reaction to online gaming is to ban or if not at least regulate strict control on the time that youngsters can access the online gaming sites.
3. But then after i talk a few times to various youngsters - i realised the online gaming has positive impact on learning.
I was told that online gaming can help youngsters to learn :-
a. Strategy to win a battle
b. Learn math technique
c. Learn computing technique
d. Solve complex problems
etc.
4. As I don't play online games - and solely based on my discussion with the youngsters, I gather that online gaming do have its merits if they are not addicted - and neglect their work or studies.
5. So I guess the strategy is to prevent addiction to online gaming - by limiting the timing that a youngster can access gaming sites.
Not really sure how should the Government do it technically?
Or should the parents or spouse be involved?
6. Anything excessive is no good - as it will become "addiction".
Moderation is the always the right virtue.
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[3:02 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: Basic Binary:
All websites can be viewed as live streaming 24/7 regardless of hits (visits).
Live means 1, on-line users can either be 1 or 0.
What's the continuous 1 sites corelate to previous Hits of thousands 1111 and so on...
1 is fixed, 0 is variable or domains.
[3:16 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: "A" Team:
Form an international team of coders. Geographically from ROC, China, India, Eastern Europe (Russians?), South Korea, Japan and importantly OURS too (to learn and be exposed).
Write an extensive and complex codes for Cyber activities from petty cheats to terrorism. These codes need more than 2 years to teething because it encompasses analog and digital formats, synchronise.
Simply put it, cover All bases because these WWW adversaries always attempt to circumvent current platforms whether one is an Ally or the others are Adversaries!
[3:23 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: What's the KPI (้ฌผๆ้ฌผ)?
"The more you catches, the more you gets..."
- - annoymous
One incentve or KPI for this A Team coders: This A Team, only the best and nothing less...!
1) the number of breakthrough cases
2) the quantum broken.
These successes will be their shared annual bonuses and promotions?
[3:37 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: Transmitters: Are these digital and/or analog codes?
Members get Members
SMS messaging
Fixed comms line
Digital comms line
Digital text messaging
Website
Who and where are the intermediaries, located?
Cross borders
Internal or intranet or extranet
[3:39 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: Coding can also include race, religion and political 'agendas' internally and importantly external sources!
[3:52 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: The Engine:
The entire framework need to be logical, practical, self learning (organic). At times thinking like a crook, you will reach into the mountains of motive and momentum.
The Language:
Through AI and sets of code. Identying repetitive words and phrases in multiple languages. For our local context, the main four official languages.
The Key Wordings & The Digits:
The AI will be able to filter text, comprehend and 'see' these meanings (in 0.05 sec) to escalate into the next level of security protocol. Five levels will be sufficient to Q&Q the order of priorities.
[4:00 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: Lol you want to join CSA or CSIT?
[4:01 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: Or GovTech?
[4:03 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: Hi Ken,
Law alone with public education are two ways towards deterrance.
There is need to cover many bases to achieve this objective, that is how to tackle it.
[4:04 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: There are ways to prevent it, but are we doing too much to control?
Better to educate then to protect from all harms.. it is hard to totally cover all bases… as internet is just too easy to access anywhere
[4:05 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: These highly effective syndicates use tech to conquer...
From recruitment, training, launder and hits....highly complex jobs...
[4:06 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: Public education is important, however there are bunch that might not able to be reached due to lack of education or just don’t use internet.
PSA done using drama in local television is quite good. There are more of it as I don’t watch local Tv. Yet I have glimpses of it while chance upon radio or Tv randomly.
[4:06 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: Backroom perhaps is to deploy our Cyber Team...
[4:06 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: Social engineering… no way to prevent… only education
[4:07 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: Cannot anyhow attack… lol you think so easy… we small country can never go to that extend. Even we know who… ๐คฃ
[4:07 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: PSA- public service announcements
[4:08 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: Similar for bank apps… but more can be done.. for those dont read or can’t see
[4:08 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: One early intervention.
What if one happens to be distracted say out of stress or other personal reasons. Resorting to Internet games or Gamblings as one means to relieve...
Remember, it takes a moment to turn bad and its take longer time to rehab...
[4:09 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: PSA is another good way.
[4:09 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: Even games have similar structure…
https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/12/13/kid-spends-16k-on-in-app-purchases-for-ipad-game-sonic-forces/amp/
[4:09 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: In legit apps… how to prevent
[4:09 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: These are perhaps the social fronts...
We need more backups...
[4:10 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: Only educate the weak minded and constantly share such knowledge
[4:10 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: Hah.... conditioning
[4:10 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: Easy said then done…
[4:11 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: I ask my mum try to learn… she say I don’t know.. just lock me out will do
[4:11 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: ๐คฆ๐ป♂️ as system get more integrated how to lock everything ๐๐
[4:11 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: Have to pay subscription for no reason ๐ซ
[4:12 pm, 17/08/2022] +REACH: ๐ข Topic ๐ข
At the inauguration ceremony on Tuesday (Aug 16), Mrs Josephine Teo, Second Minister for Home Affairs, said the formation of the Gambling Regulatory Authority (GRA) is an important next step for gambling regulation in Singapore given how the landscape will be very different in five years.
Mrs Teo, who is also Minister for Communications and Information, noted how technology developments have made it easier for people to gamble any time and anywhere, widening the scale and scope of online gambling. Shifting consumer preferences have also given rise to new gambling products and the boundaries between gambling and gaming have blurred, she said.
๐ฌ What are your views on the newly inaugurated Gambling Regulatory Authority? How can we better regul…
[4:12 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: Easiest way is to give her non smart phone lol
[4:12 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: How long can parents lock out these digital devices?
Once touching these devices, no turning back!
[4:13 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: Errr… educate and give other options to choose from…
They choose that cause that is the easiest to access..
[4:13 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: As previously suggested...
For child under 16 years, cannot buy Smart phone!
Possible or this child circumventing by using friends or parents devices?
[4:13 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: My child almost 2 haven’t touch iPad ๐คฃ๐คฃ
Phone no choice cause need to calm her down
[4:14 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: But minimum
[4:14 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: Good point...
Accessibility over affordability
[4:14 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: Lol… phone are very smart now… iPhone can lock all the way…
[4:14 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: Can lock via watch, phone and pc and can set screen time
[4:15 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: And even time used ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ
[4:15 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: Good job! Keep it going for as long as possible.... that day will arrive. Ken, you will surrender to it...
[4:15 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: Haha we will see when… I am not totally against tech…
Atleast my kid don’t need phone to eat
[4:16 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: That’s is my line drawn
[4:16 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: Human are such, always ADAPTABLE beings...
You block here, there they flow...
[4:16 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: And don’t know how to use Tv remote ๐คฃ๐คฃ
[4:16 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: Correct again...
There is always a time and one's life station for each finding and milestone....
[4:17 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: Early adopters or last laggards....
[4:17 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: Similar for gambling they choose cause they don’t have other choice.. or they think they don’t have a choice to find excitement in life
[4:17 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: Stress is one profound reason...
[4:18 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: When you lived a meaningful life… what is gambling
[4:18 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: What can one spend during off hours? Local context....
[4:18 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: Upbringing, bonding and family values
[4:19 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: For me… is lifetime trauma…
Haha having to bend to steal from parents to pay for debt…
When I was like 8 years old… the feeling was so bad… $100 at age 8 ๐ฅ
Then after that never again…
[4:19 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: Children learn from role models, parents, teachers, seniors
[4:19 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: Depends on each person life growing up..
[4:19 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: Life experiences...
Good and bad...
[4:20 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: And plus my mum keep nagging about gambling.. for me just gamble for social gathering.. ๐
I don’t like losing either… be it luck or skill… I am not going to be professional.. so don’t waste time
[4:20 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: Self disciplined....one profound ingredient to success...
[4:21 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: Haha not so easy…. But Atleast for me I learn something… and with me for life.. I don’t gamble full stop.. Atleast not for fun.. I don’t find it fun
[4:23 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: You are lucky and your parents bought you up very well...
Parents actions will have deep impressions on theirs offsprings...
So parents whom have young kids, pls be mindful of your behaviors, wordings and actions....
Kids learn and pick it up faster than you could stop it
[4:23 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: You learned....
[4:24 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: I am definitely not the easiest kid to teach.. ๐คฃ๐คฃ
But part also people you mixed.. too many factors that made a person.
[4:26 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: Don't over reminding or nagging....a child's Will go the opposite, reverse psychology!
Conditioning is only one general theory, very often experts used it excessively or not knowing the unintended outcomes.... simply, they don't fully understand Pavlov theory!
[4:27 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: Peers pressure....
[4:27 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: Gambling habits take time to build…. Trigger and rewards.
Being close to the person, if you know the person constantly having money issue. Either you find out early, if not it take much longer to clear it in the long run…
And being old don’t means won’t pick up new bad habits..
[4:28 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: It takes one Sweet and surprise winning.... Walla, it goes on...
[4:29 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: "It takes a few new habits to kick the bad ones away..."
[4:29 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: Never buy will never face that surprise ๐คฃ๐คฃ
Like your 4D and TOTO. Famous quote
Buy a hope, if you buy have hope, no buy no hope ๐
[4:29 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: So I don’t buy… ๐
[4:29 pm, 17/08/2022] +Frankie Wee: Everyone want to dream being a rich life
[4:30 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: I count my odds… better returns in investing…
[4:30 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: Ask this pool to use other words than HOPE and no hope....joking
[4:30 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: At least is not 50/50 ๐คฃ
[4:31 pm, 17/08/2022] +Frankie Wee: Singapore pools business big profit collect outlet ticket very richest per day
[4:31 pm, 17/08/2022] +Frankie Wee: Not everyone could win
[4:31 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: Hi Frankie, good afternoon...
A real Life aspiration...nothing wrong to think Rich
[4:31 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: Atleast government tax they and give back to communities
[4:32 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: That's the name POOLS....
[4:32 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: Singapore pools contributor… are in direct donators
[4:32 pm, 17/08/2022] +Frankie Wee: Singapore pools should support charity fund
[4:32 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: They do… big time
[4:32 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: 50% profit goes to donation if I didn’t remember wrongly
[4:33 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: Always have been supporting Good social activities....Spools
[4:33 pm, 17/08/2022] +KSFoong: Government tax is the relatively rich give back to society. Singapore pools is collect money from those who dreams to become rich to fund the society๐
[4:34 pm, 17/08/2022] +Frankie Wee: 2022 this year can’t tell how much revenue
[4:34 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: +10% ?
[4:35 pm, 17/08/2022] +Frankie Wee: Maybe make profit $1b
[4:35 pm, 17/08/2022] +Frankie Wee: ๐
[4:37 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: One international syndicate making over US$11 b annually....
[4:37 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: Donate almost half the income
[4:38 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: Paid 1/3 income in tax to government
[4:38 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: Well done!
[4:38 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: Anyway RWS and the rest not so sure lol
[4:39 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: But Atleast they created jobs for many
[4:40 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: fertile water don't outflow ... ่ฅๆฐดไธๅคๆต
[4:41 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: More than that… cause foreign worker also buy…
[4:41 pm, 17/08/2022] +Ken Loh: RWS bring in money from overseas
[4:44 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: Virtual gamblings are outflows....
[5:01 pm, 17/08/2022] +Lock: Education. There is no way to stop this. Every game has in-app purchase which will include some form of 'gambling' . The little vending machines with toys in the plastic bubbles already plant the seed for little kids. Presents wrapped up tease the kids with surprise. It's a fact that people like risk and surprise. Hard to draw the line with gambling, but an important line to draw.
[5:01 pm, 17/08/2022] +Lock: Even TV game shows often have an element of gambling. We can't ban it all.
[5:02 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: Hi Lock,
That's entertainment itself....
[5:03 pm, 17/08/2022] +Lock: Where possible have age limits and make it hard to access, remove those hidden prize machines, and include gambling in social studies classes.
[5:03 pm, 17/08/2022] +Lock: Ha, exactly.
[5:04 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: That's MOE turf....
[6:13 pm, 17/08/2022] +REACH: ๐ข Topic ๐ข
At the inauguration ceremony on Tuesday (Aug 16), Mrs Josephine Teo, Second Minister for Home Affairs, said the formation of the Gambling Regulatory Authority (GRA) is an important next step for gambling regulation in Singapore given how the landscape will be very different in five years.
Mrs Teo, who is also Minister for Communications and Information, noted how technology developments have made it easier for people to gamble any time and anywhere, widening the scale and scope of online gambling. Shifting consumer preferences have also given rise to new gambling products and the boundaries between gambling and gaming have blurred, she said.
๐ฌ What are your views on the newly inaugurated Gambling Regulatory Authority? How can we better regul…
[6:24 pm, 17/08/2022] +Rama: Please come down hard on any form of illegal gambling by anyone anywhere in Singapore
[6:27 pm, 17/08/2022] +JC: Minister Teo is talking about the stock/crypto market right? ๐
[6:45 pm, 17/08/2022] +REACH: Dear Contributors,
⏰ We will be closing the chat in 15 minutes ⏰
Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Goodnight!
Megan
[6:59 pm, 17/08/2022] +Smiley face: 17 August, 2022
To: Our Distinguished Leaders, Business & Community Leaders and All Honorable Members
"Education And The Moral Standards"
To educate our young children the virtue of THRIFT and SPENT within one means will be one topic to consider in their social studies program. It has to starts from Primary One and into IHL - ITE, Polys and JCs.
Moral of this story:
Isn't life, at different times, a gamble to many of us? If yes, please read on.
Fact (ไบๅฎ):
The higher one's educational level is, the higher society honors it. This highly educated fratinity comes with all sorts of behaviors, it can be excellent or it can be playful or it can harm others.
So one doctor molested his patient is a good example that a higher educated person does not guarantee his/her proper conduct as expected from a professional!
This habit of gamings has long scripted by historians since the golden time of ancient Egyptians. (whereby losing many heads too).
Fancy (ไธๆ่พ่ตข):
The richer one's is, if there is an existing urge to gamble in group (kakies) or virtually (Solo), the more likely he or she will gambles. What's the stake and wager be for these deep pockets folks? It can amount to millions of dollars at a few blows!
How about those millions of ordinary "once in a lifetime, wannabe, millionaire" folks, their wagers be? Perhaps in hundreds or thousands of dollars within a month?
This gaming habit does not discriminates the ordinary folks from the richie rich. What gambling or gaming will achieve, is to dispell one's moods or one's innate needs or an urge to gamble?
Reality (็ฐๅฎ):
One thing is widely read, to avoid sending wrong signals to our older youth, is to feature the Rich or/and the Successful people in commonly read news media. Perhaps, theses Successful stories could be channelled to other media like financial and business platforms. Only those who subscribed and those in this game of gains and fames would adore and comprehend better than our youth?
The End Game (ไธๆ่พ):
Back to the future of gamings, it is no longer matters to these gamblers (compulsive ones), losing MONEY has numbed and disabled one's rational thinking!
No Ends (่ตไธ่ต):
How to eradicate this unfavourable habit? If one has a solution to it, it would be a great gift to humanity.
"Who wishes to loose?", especially one tasted the winning streaks and the many unannounced losses, that's the beauty of this habit - GAMBLE!
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[7:00 pm, 17/08/2022] +REACH: Dear Contributors,
We will be closing the chat for today.
Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Goodnight!
Megan ๐
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