Thursday, November 19, 2020

REACH 167 - Public Private Partnership (SK)

20 Nov 2020 (11am - 7pm)


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[11:01 am, 20/11/2020] +: πŸ“’ Topic πŸ“’ 

A new "start-up" approach adopted by public agencies and the private sector working together on initiatives to drive economic growth may soon become the norm, with the Government keen on making this new agile way of collaboration more widespread.

πŸ’¬ How can we motivate more partnerships between public and private sectors?

Members of the Emerging Stronger Taskforce (EST), convened in May to help chart a vision for the country and its industries in a post-Covid-19 world, said on Thursday (Nov 19) that this approach has seen the public and private sectors working alongside each other as partners - rather than as regulators and the regulated.

"In keeping with the spirit of Singapore Together, these efforts are led by industry leaders, working in close partnerships," said Deputy Prime Minister Heng Swee Keat, referring to the movement he and his fourth-generation colleagues launched last year to give citizens a bigger say in making and executing policies.

The approach taken by the Singapore Together Alliances for Action - industry-led coalitions formed under the task force - has born fruit in the ideas and models that have come up in the past four months.

πŸ‘‰ https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/emerging-stronger-taskforce-outlines-new-collaborative-approach-to-drive-economic

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Blue and White Flag Guy

[11:02 am, 20/11/2020] +: Happy Friyay OG Megan! 

The key to PPPs is trust 

As I learned in a recent workshop, "Moving at the speed of "trust" :)


Alvin

[11:03 am, 20/11/2020] +: πŸ‘πŸ»

[11:03 am, 20/11/2020] +: Totally agree


Blue and White Flag Guy

[11:04 am, 20/11/2020] +: Public and private entities often have starkly different goals, so the goal is for both sides to compromise and work together!


REACH

[11:17 am, 20/11/2020] +: Competition watchdog lifts measures on Grab as private-hire regulatory framework takes effect

The Competition and Consumer Commission of Singapore (CCCS) has lifted the measures it imposed on Grab in September 2018 over its merger with Uber.

This comes after Singapore’s new point-to-point (P2P) transport regulatory framework came into effect on Oct 30, the watchdog said in a media release on Friday (Nov 20).

Parliament passed the P2P Passenger Transport Industry Bill in August last year, which requires all ride-hail and street-hail service providers with a fleet size of more than 800 vehicles to be licensed.

More: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/grab-uber-merger-competition-directions-p2p-regulatory-framework-13599876


[0:04 pm, 20/11/2020] ☸️  Danny εΏƒ: 

An example of Public and Private Partnership to make Singapore competitive:-


[0:05 pm, 20/11/2020] ☸️  Danny εΏƒ: 

ASEAN Business

New Asean network to build logistics infrastructure

MONDAY, NOVEMBER 16, 2020 - 14:42

MINDY TAN

SINGAPORE logistics firm YCH Group is joining forces with VIetnam's T&T Group  to lead the first project of the Asean Smart Logistics Network (ASLN).

The ASLN is a new collaborative platform with a shared goal of smart and sustainable growth based on smart logistics infrastructure. Its aim is to support the Asean Connectivity Master Plan 2025. The network aims to achieve a seamless and comprehensively connected and integrated Asean that will promote competitiveness and inclusiveness. 

The platform was launched on Saturday by Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong and Minister for Trade and Industry Chan Chun Sing, both of whom attended virtually. Vietnamese Prime Minister Nguyen Xuan Phuc, and Deputy Prime Minister Pham Binh Minh, together with other Vietnamese government officials, dignitaries, and business leaders of domestic and foreign trade associations attended the hybrid launch event on-site in Hanoi, Vietnam.The launch event is part of the agenda for the 37th Asean Summit that is held from Nov 12 to Nov 15 in Hanoi. 

The network's first project, the Vinh Phuc Inland Container Depot Logistics Centre (SuperPort) will be a first of its kind, multi-modal logistics hub integrating dry port and advanced supply chain nerve centre operation that focuses on four key pillars: connectivity, sustainability, scalability, and agility, said YCH in a statement. It will demonstrate the advantages of multi-modal transportation through its road, rail, air and sea linkages, with road and rail linking China’s Yunnan province, Kunming city, to Hanoi city and eventually ends at Hai Phong international port. ------- This will be link to Singapore maritime port hub.

PM Lee noted that the SuperPort project - the largest logistics development by a Singapore firm in Vietnam - will provide crucial infrastructure support for Vietnam's growing exports and contribute to its human resource development goals.

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07 Jul 2019 06:52AM (Updated: 07 Jul 2019 07:00AM)

Danny Lum

Solution - 3 steps process

(1) Plug nodes into critical market and ports - through joint projects, investments, joint ventures, industrial park, joint R&D etc. Eg. Chongqing CCI, Greater Bay Area in Guangdong and HK ports, Shanghai ports in Yangtze Delta, Vietnam ports, ASEAN ports, Indonesia ports, Australia ports, New Zealand ports, India ports etc ---- will be critical for us to link all them up by "smart precise investment and joint projects".


(2) Build virtual connectivity via Digitial Economy, market access, friendship, business contact, trade deals and agreements, trade, business, travel etc. ASEAN centrality, RCEP, CPTPP, BRI, Singapore FTA with India, Australia, New Zealand, Singapore FTA with China, Singapore FTA with Russia etc.


(3) Build up critical cores of port facilities, warehousing, logistic chain, transport connectivity, port-of-call, bunker facilities, all-in-one services, MRO etc - and link up with Step 1 and Step 2. ---- as well as with our FTA with EU, US, Africa, India, Russia, Africa etc ---- that will ensure they will ply into Singapore ports.


Solutions to Problem 2-

This is called :-

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- build physical nodes, and achieve integration with virtual connectivity and integration,

- through virtual connectivity - build physical maritime routes and physical connectivity back to Singapore ports.

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Stella Yip

[0:06 pm, 20/11/2020] +: Trust + mutual benefit (even if it is not balanced, still need win-win for all parties) ?


[0:09 pm, 20/11/2020] ☸️  Danny εΏƒ: 

This article confirm that geoblocking is ineffective against VPN or SSL VPN.

Geoblocking ineffective and can be evaded by VPN and SSL VPN.

VPN encrypt the whole payload and insert dummy IP source and destination that can evade the blacklist and whitelist - rendering geoblocking ineffective.

VPN encryption take place in layer 3 and form encrypted tunnel.

How can content blocking happen at layer 7 check layer 3 encryption?


[0:09 pm, 20/11/2020] ☸️  Danny εΏƒ: 

Many foreign investors in China need to access foreign website to do their business

Singapore got so many Singaporean investors in China, if they can't use VPN to access Singapore website - how to do business?

Hence VPN is implicitly allow for foreigners in China.

Firewalls can block VPN port - but it means all legitimate encrypted traffic cannot pass through - which translates to a denial of service.

No technology can crack the VPN encryption key which can be 256 or 1024 bits - to do deep inspection of the contents in the encrypted payload.

So VPN is still the means to access foreign website in China - never mind geoblocking, or other content checking which is ineffective against VPN.

This is to close the loop on the discussion of this issue.


[1:22 pm, 20/11/2020] ☸️  Danny εΏƒ: 

How to motivate more partnership between public and private sector:-

1. Identify the respective business association to work with the respective Ministries - by appointing Minister or MOS in partnership to transform business, identify growth area and help to bolster growth, venture into overseas markets via RCEP, cptpp, and other FTA.

2. Follow through the armbit of ITM in the respective industry sector.


[1:23 pm, 20/11/2020] ☸️  Danny εΏƒ:

 25 Jan 2019 10:00PM (Updated: 25 Jan 2019 10:11PM)

Ricky Lim

ITM (Industry Transformatiom Map) can indeed solve the income inequality, job problem arising from disruptive tech to transform business and train workers that will avoid the problem caused by Globalisation and Free Trade.

It is an antidote to the currect economic system face by the whole World.

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Ricky Lim

(1) Industry Transformation Map (ITM)

- Idea is posted in 2012 to tackle disruptive tech and is adopted by the Government feature in Budget 2016.

- Now this idea is used in 23 industries where 15 industries led by one Minister-of-State have undergone transformation and has start to reap positive outcome - as a good number of companies have start to reap growth and profit through the newly transformed business.

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Ricky Lim ·

Singapore

Source of Origin of ITM :-


Ricky Lim ·

Singapore

The following is posted on:-


Tuesday, 1 May, 2012 2:57 PM

Ricky Lim

REACH RWEB Submission feedback RWEB2012050100010 via the REACH website: To raise productivity,


To raise productivity, everyone has a part to play :-

1. Business invest in capital tools and send workers for training

2. Workers upgrade skills to operate capital tools

3. Govt provide grants, provide good education, married govt R&D bodies with business etc

4. Government work with various industry to devise objective and tangible KPI to allow business, workers, union, gov, schools etc to shoot for the KPI.

5. Govt, business, bright individuals should scout overseas countries and industries that have make their industries productive and bring it back to Singapore and transform our business to be more productive.

6. Union encourage, provide relevant course for workers to upgrade

7. School train students in right course, right skills and married industry with courses.

8. Home, family members, social bodies have to support working members to provide a conducive environment for working members to be productive.

9. Look at whatever else things that can make the nation productive, to be productive.

10. Peg the wage increase vis-Γ -vis our regions, our competitors, our international competition to ensure that our wage increase are competitive and will not drive away business – causing massive job losses.


Sent: Tuesday, 1 May, 2012 3:24 PM

To: reachadmin@reachadmin.com

Subject: REACH RWEB Submission: Govt agenices working with industries to devise prodictivity figures


To elaborate further :-

(1) Ministry of Comm and iDA – should work with IT industries, foreign IT MNCs, local IT vendors etc to devise objective, tangible KPI productive figures in each technology areas and skillsets vis-Γ -vis global competition and regional competition – so that IT business and IT workers can target to meet the KPI productivity figures – and peg wage growth in % term and/or absolute term to the productivity figures and business profitability. Communicate this to the IT industries, business, IT workers, Union and schools. Make sure we are competitive with our global competitors and regional competitors.

(2) SLA should do the same with construction sector.

(3) Ministry of Finanace and MAS should work with the banking and financial sector. etc


ricky l

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That is, the concept above is how to transform Singapore Economy in 2016 - sector-by-sector (conceptualising the KPI for each sector) ---- and using targeted approach to transform each sector, each industry one by one.


Only then productivity in each sector, in each industry can be successfully transformed - supported by empirical, scientific measures.


Good that after 4 years --- the idea is taken up.

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Ricky Lim ·

Singapore

The origin of Industry Transformation Map (ITM).......................

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[1:25 pm, 20/11/2020] ☸️  Danny εΏƒ: 

This is the extension of Public Private Partnership (PPP) - via the respective industry sector and the corresponding Ministries.


Berny

[1:27 pm, 20/11/2020] +: I think we need a new topic, nobody replying to the current one


[1:37 pm, 20/11/2020] ☸️  Danny εΏƒ: 

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ricky l 0 seconds ago

Posted in :- January 2, 2017 ricky l 

Increasingly, we should focus on "Services" as the Engine for Growth. This focus will help to chart, foster, grow, expand and export "Services" - as our Growth Engine --- that will transcend and go beyond the constraint of "Physical Boundary". Reply 


ricky l ricky l 11 seconds ago 

Services for growth will be able to create, penetrate and foster "virtual connectivity, virtual penetration, virtual community, virtual marketplace, virtual trading, virtual exchange, virtual finances, virtual currency" etc ---- transcending "physical boundary, physical constraint, physical restraint" ---- and complete transaction in real-time, online and at break-neck speed. This means more jobs will created for PMETs - where the percentage of PMETs have increased from 10% to the future of 40% or more. This will decrease the manufacturing contribution to the Economy. In addition, SMEs will also increasingly leverage on the "Service Economy" to grow their business and rely on robotics, automation. All this will help to transcend Singapore's constraint of "Physical Boundary" - by going "Virtual" - where the "boundary is limitless - the Globe". See less 


ricky l ricky l now If Singapore is able to do this and succeed, Singapore has reached "Nirvanic Economy" - the State of Nirvana - boundless. borderless, virtual, limitless........ r


icky l ricky l 10 seconds ago And for Singapore, the "Globe will be Our Marketplace - with no Boundary" - this should be our focus of "Service Engine for Growth". We should explore, open up and penetrate "New and unchartered market" as well - as physical boundary is no longer a constraint.


 ricky l ricky l now Through the "Service Sector" ---- we will then attract and draw the "Physical connectivity" back to Singapore - and grow our manufacturing and other physical sectors and industries. This will be the reverse grow - to overcome our "physical constraint". ricky l ricky l now It is thus important for Singapore to maintain good relationship with many and if possible every Countries in the World. 


ricky l ricky l 11 seconds ago Singapore have managed to grow our "Service Sector" to contribute 25% to the Economy. With increased focus, the target is to grow it to 50% of the Economy ---- that will effectively cover the loss in "Manufacturing sector" and "SME sector - that is not able to grow with no corresponding grow in manpower". PMETs will grow in importance and can grow in number - and contribute to more middle-top income earners. 


ricky l ricky l 2 seconds ago Specifically, this "Service Engine" for growth as our Future Economy - should be the "Digital Economy". 


ricky l ricky l 11 seconds ago Where this Digital Economy should pervade every sectors of the Economy :- 

Be it :- 

(1) IT sector 

(2) Transport sector 

(3) Finance, Banking and Insurance sector 

(4) Logistics sector 

(5) Manufacturing sector 

(6) SME sector 

(7) Hospitality sector 

(8) Food and Beverage sector 

(9) Gaming sector 

(10) Healthcare sector 

(11) Aerospace sector 

(12) Construction sector 

(13) Trade, ports sector etc 


ricky l ricky l 2 seconds ago Imagine if Digital Economy can contribute 25 to 50% in each industry sector - we can grow and replace our traditional Economy sector phenomenally - from a $400 billion GDP to $600 billion GDP. And create many PMETs jobs - which have been expanding from 10% to 40% - and can still expand further with Digital Economy. This will create many more middle income earners and top middle income earners - if Singapore succeed. The future for our descendants and future generations will be bright. 


ricky l ricky l 2 seconds ago

 Our current Digital exploitation is still not deepen and expanded in scope. If we succeed in deepening and expanding Digital exploitation into a full-fledged Digital Economy in every sector of our Economy - our Future Growth will be very bright.

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[1:40 pm, 20/11/2020] ☸️  Danny εΏƒ: 

ricky l 0 seconds ago

For eg. deepening and expanding Digital Economy to support traditional model in each industry sectors include :- 

 

(1) Manufacturing sector - more pervasive used of robotics, IoT, nanotech, 3D printing etc

(2) Finance, Banking, Insurance sector - more pervasive used of Fintech, mobile banking, online banking etc 

(3) IT industry sector - IoT, Big Data, Meta Data Analytics, CyberSecurity, Cloud, etc 

(4) SME sector - online shopping, mobile shopping etc 

(5) Construction sector - 3D printing, robotics, etc (6) Transport sector - Driverless, online booking, tracking, scheduling, IoT, etc 

(7) Food & Beverages - automation, robotics, online ordering etc


ricky l 0 seconds ago

The industry mention above is not limited and should be expanded to all industry sectors as possible. 

 

For eg. 

(8) Gaming sector - online gaming, mobile gaming, virtual reality etc. 

(9) Logistics sector - online scheduling, tracking, etc. 

(10) Trade and Business sector - online registration, LC, banking facilitation, online information and aiding of trade facilitation etc. 

he Digital Economy will have the benefit of transcending our "small physical constraints, physical boundary, physical size". 

And by empirical data, Digital Economy should bring in another 25% to 50% more to the Economy. In fact in some sector, it can bring in as much as 94% and more. So Singapore Future Economy is bright.


ricky l 0 seconds ago

In every industry sectors, they should be make up of 2 categories :- 

 

(1) Traditional industry - this will keep traditional workers - blue collar workers and white collars workers - to maintain their traditional business 

(2) Digital industry - this will be the up and growing category - where blue collar workers and PMETs are trained and armed with new technologies, mindsets, innovation, creativity to transform Traditional Industry into a Digital Economy for their business. 

Digital Industry - will go beyond traditional boundary - and will transcend border, virtual, limitless, borderless. 

And Digital Industry growth cn be phenomenal - as it will have the reach that go beyond National boundary. 

It can go regional and global - without some investment. Both Traditional + Digital - become the Nirvanic Economy (Physical + Virtual).


ricky l 1 second ago

Having say so, cyber-security will become increasingly important because IT infrastructure will increasingly become the backbone of our Future Economy.

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[2:10 pm, 20/11/2020] +: https://goodyfeed.com/covid-19-pm-lee/
[3:56 pm, 20/11/2020] +: 4 new COVID-19 cases in Singapore; 10th consecutive day of no local infections
Singapore reported four new COVID-19 cases as of noon on Friday (Nov 20), said the Ministry of Health (MOH) in its preliminary daily update.
All the cases were imported and placed on stay-home notice or isolated upon arrival, MOH said.
No locally transmitted cases were reported for the 10th consecutive day.
More information on the cases will be provided on Friday night, MOH said.
More: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/moh-singapore-covid-19-new-cases-imported-community-local-nov-20-13601384

[4:05 pm, 20/11/2020] ☸️  Danny εΏƒ: 
Great that both China and UK are interested to join CPTPP.
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/japan-expand-cptpp-trade-pact-china-uk-apec-suga-13600622

[4:08 pm, 20/11/2020] ☸️  Danny εΏƒ: 
Now the challenge is how government work with private sectors to leverage on RCEP and CPTPP to expand their business into overseas markets.

[4:09 pm, 20/11/2020] ☸️  Danny εΏƒ: 
This can start with the respective business association with the corresponding Ministries - working together how to leverage RCEP and CPTPP to penetrate foreign markets.

[5:21 pm, 20/11/2020] +: Jobsgohere 
https://youtu.be/wb8aEFdcXHk 
Visit https://www.jobsgohere.gov.sg to discover job and training opportunities in these growth sectors: 
🏑 The Built Environment 
πŸ’° Financial Services 
πŸ₯ Healthcare & Community Care 
πŸ’» Infocomm Technology 
🀝 Wholesale Trade

[5:22 pm, 20/11/2020] ☸️  Danny εΏƒ: 
Maybe govt can put up website on how business can leverage on the RCEP and CPTPP and other FTAs - to push their business overseas.
Periodic push of information by the respective Ministries to the members of each business association are also a good way to coax business to partner govt to leverage on the various FTAs.

[5:23 pm, 20/11/2020] +: all these gohere gowhere goeverywhere really quite amusing sia
[5:23 pm, 20/11/2020] +: lol
[5:23 pm, 20/11/2020] +: Lai lai

[5:26 pm, 20/11/2020] ☸️  Danny εΏƒ: 
Respective Ministries can call up CEO or business owners of the respective business - to inform them of the respective business opportunities offer by the various FTAs or actively partner up overseas prospective buyers or sellers with our local business.

[5:28 pm, 20/11/2020] ☸️  Danny εΏƒ: 
Alternatively, various ministries can organise business forum to invite overseas business and local business - on how they can tap RCEP, CPTPP and the various FTAs - to do business.

[5:34 pm, 20/11/2020] ☸️  Danny εΏƒ: 
Or can create alliance or membership for local businesses:-
Eg.
1. RCEP-alliance
2. CPTPP-alliance
Etc
Under this alliance, :-
1. Monthly meeting between ministries, CEO business owners - to disseminate information, business tie up, project potential, project progress, business partnership etc.
2. Regular information dissemination.
3. Financial assistance.
4. Mediation, arbitration if there are business dispute.

[5:35 pm, 20/11/2020] +: Don't have gov where yet

[5:36 pm, 20/11/2020] ☸️  Danny εΏƒ: 
5. Holding seminars, events, exhibition, training etc.

[5:36 pm, 20/11/2020] +: It's everywhere ...

[5:37 pm, 20/11/2020] ☸️  Danny εΏƒ: 
6. Digitalisation technical assistance, e-commerce, logistics services etc.
[5:37 pm, 20/11/2020] +: Like I can't event find info on where to raise concern on privacy issue by gov agencies.

[5:41 pm, 20/11/2020] ☸️  Danny εΏƒ: 
Domestic market in Singapore is too small.
PPP must actively try get govt to marry local business with overseas business to expand our local business.
Overseas markets is huge and we must attempt to leverage on the myriad of FTAs to grow our local business - especially exploiting digitalisation.

[6:17 pm, 20/11/2020] +: Lai lai less than 1 hour left to say something useful 
Understand there's too much SPAM but PPP is an important thing
Some even talk about PPPP (Public-Private-People Partnerships) because involving the community is definitely the right thing to do as well
[6:22 pm, 20/11/2020] +: Though useful, how do we encourage people to join?  
Classic example was the Copif 2018 discussion (I heard about this but is unable to verify if the following statement is true):
BCA and IMDA had several discussions with Managing agents, building owners etc, attendance rate was low and apparently not many is aware of how important that was and when the copif was finally out, people start making noise
[6:22 pm, 20/11/2020] +: I never heard of Copif so the big factor is exposure, do the people who need to know, know?
[6:22 pm, 20/11/2020] +: Point is: while it is good, how do we ensure that the relevant body/company/right person is reached out to?
[6:23 pm, 20/11/2020] +: Building owners and MCSTs are supposed to know, it directly affects their income through rental, previous condo I was from lost nearly 100k for a full FY and it caught most of us by surprise
[6:24 pm, 20/11/2020] +: So the question is how come they don't know about it?
[6:24 pm, 20/11/2020] +: Thats my point
[6:24 pm, 20/11/2020] +: It happened before I join the industry and what I understand is that the "invitation" is very selective
[6:26 pm, 20/11/2020] +: So it's a bureaucracy problem
[6:26 pm, 20/11/2020] +: Perhaps, but that is something which those higher up can consider in future
[6:27 pm, 20/11/2020] +: Quote me on this 
I hate communication breakdowns more than train breakdowns
[6:27 pm, 20/11/2020] +: I hate all breakdowns, including mental breakdown
[6:27 pm, 20/11/2020] +: Side tracked sorry
https://www.facebook.com/STBsingapore/posts/2151462298317486
i saw this and got very very angry!!
This shows how poorly STB plan out by treating this as yet another tender processes, without thinking the ground sentiments.
A simple online search shows that most partners are not a local companyπŸ€”
trip.com - China
Klook - Hong-Kong, china
Traveloka - Indonesia
Changi Recommends - SG
GlobalTix - SG
Why are we paying foreign company to manage our rediscover vouchers? 
Its common knowledge that middleman have to take a cut!!!
[6:28 pm, 20/11/2020] +: No joke though, communication breakdown happens all the time 
Just like in your case because of some "selective" invitation nonsense
[6:29 pm, 20/11/2020] +: My guess ah, maybe STB sought sponsorship from them?
[6:30 pm, 20/11/2020] +: Your side track better than derailment πŸ˜‚
[6:30 pm, 20/11/2020] +: Pun intended
[6:30 pm, 20/11/2020] +: Next time someone derail conversation again I'm going to open the DC tie breaker I tell you
[6:30 pm, 20/11/2020] +: πŸ˜±πŸ˜¨πŸ˜‘πŸ˜ πŸ˜žπŸ˜ŸπŸ˜”
[6:31 pm, 20/11/2020] +: then they are waiting for CPIB to invite them for black coffee...
[6:31 pm, 20/11/2020] +: haha
[6:31 pm, 20/11/2020] +: So my question is: how, or what can be done to prevent communication breakdown?
[6:31 pm, 20/11/2020] +: No ah
[6:31 pm, 20/11/2020] +: May not be the case
[6:31 pm, 20/11/2020] +: For now nothing can be done unless someone in that level does something
[6:31 pm, 20/11/2020] +: I used to ask for sponsorships for the events that we are planning back then
[6:32 pm, 20/11/2020] +: πŸ˜‚
[6:32 pm, 20/11/2020] +: Proper documentation and accounting must be done and ultimately, I do not receive any benefits from the sponsors, directly or indirectly
[6:32 pm, 20/11/2020] +: events is one thing ma
[6:33 pm, 20/11/2020] +: This one nation wide event ma
[6:33 pm, 20/11/2020] +: Eh brother I warmly welcome you to switch to my reception track and join our cool kids club πŸ˜‚
[6:33 pm, 20/11/2020] +: they are administering the 320mil vouchers and get $$ back from STB, double dip from STB & hotels
[6:34 pm, 20/11/2020] +: To go back on track ya, I think it would be nice if the government can push out invitations for such dialogues or events or forum (whichever you call it) through other channels (eg. Union, clubs, associations, etc) rather than direct to few receiving end
[6:35 pm, 20/11/2020] +: AFK for now haha
[6:35 pm, 20/11/2020] +: That's a good idea and we would love to see that done
[6:35 pm, 20/11/2020] +: Get back to your kitchen!
[6:35 pm, 20/11/2020] +: I assume afk means away from kitchen
[6:35 pm, 20/11/2020] +: dinner time haha
[6:35 pm, 20/11/2020] +: Ring me if you ever wanna come 😎
[6:35 pm, 20/11/2020] +: AFK == Away from keyboard haha
[6:36 pm, 20/11/2020] +: Dinner time, go kitchen masak masak
[6:36 pm, 20/11/2020] +: Ya someone need to actually afk, keyboard warrior sia Ctrl + C, Ctrl + V, make me want to Alt + F4
[6:37 pm, 20/11/2020] +: πŸ˜‰
[6:37 pm, 20/11/2020] +: i use mac, so is mac+q
[6:38 pm, 20/11/2020] +: Speaking of associations, I joined 1 earlier this year and because of covid, everything came to a stop, can i ask for a refund?
[6:38 pm, 20/11/2020] +: Mac u wanna q yourself πŸ˜‚
[6:38 pm, 20/11/2020] +: And pro rated refund for my passport too?
[6:38 pm, 20/11/2020] +: Huh? Absolutely everything? They don't have anything online at all?
[6:38 pm, 20/11/2020] +: Nothing at all
[6:39 pm, 20/11/2020] +: My name not updated in also
[6:39 pm, 20/11/2020] +: Mismanagement sia
[6:39 pm, 20/11/2020] +: Engagement is important like Reach. I like it when they listen and implement and rectify issues. So it all depends on the organization. Do they want to 'wayang' or delegate  work or are the MPs or ministry really listen and willing to consider a real dialogue. Some policy I heard they get people who support it and exclude those who see object.
[6:39 pm, 20/11/2020] +: They busy la, this year bca got many new pattern
[6:39 pm, 20/11/2020] +: They hiding from someone isit

[6:41 pm, 20/11/2020] ☸️  Danny εΏƒ: 
So far I have seen many ideas from REACH or open forum adopted by the government.
Government are quite open to ideas - especially ideas that are good and solve national issues.

[6:41 pm, 20/11/2020] +: Once I attended a dialogue the opening statement was the PM has approved. My director told me don't bother to comment. Just attend and go home. They not open they just want to show how many people attend to get show solidarity
[6:41 pm, 20/11/2020] +: Reach have not failed us
[6:41 pm, 20/11/2020] +: Oh ya another tapao from a workshop I attended 
Leaders are not leaders, the real leaders are those who actually know their stuff (like employees who interact with the work environment more than the leader does and also, the community)
[6:42 pm, 20/11/2020] +: To tie in with @Berny's topic on the comms
[6:43 pm, 20/11/2020] +: No la, cos covid is evolving and they need to push out policy and guidelines to align us with moh
[6:43 pm, 20/11/2020] +: So you facilitate feedback then who do. Citizens
[6:43 pm, 20/11/2020] +: You mean like cannot hold physical event? Cuz otherwise can have online events ma
[6:44 pm, 20/11/2020] +: Yes, there are other guidelines which isnt regulated under MOH, like gym usage etc
[6:44 pm, 20/11/2020] +: Or the feedback go into deep hole
[6:53 pm, 20/11/2020] +: PM Lee to attend virtual G20 Summit; ‘collective efforts’ to overcome COVID-19 on the agenda
Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong will attend the virtual Group of Twenty (G20) Riyadh Summit this weekend, where leaders will discuss the “collective efforts” on how to overcome the COVID-19 pandemic, said the Prime Minister’s Office (PMO) on Friday (Nov 20).
More: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/pm-lee-attend-virtual-g20-summit-collective-efforts-covid-19-13602664
[6:54 pm, 20/11/2020] +: All travellers to Singapore from Malaysia, Japan to serve COVID-19 stay-home notice at dedicated facilities
From Monday, all travellers entering Singapore from Malaysia or Japan will have to serve a 14-day stay-home notice period at dedicated facilities, the Ministry of Health (MOH) said on Friday (Nov 20).
"The multi-ministry task force has been closely monitoring the global COVID-19 situation and will be tightening border measures given the resurgence of cases in Malaysia and Japan," said the ministry.
More: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-travellers-malaysia-japan-stay-home-notice-singapore-13602806
[6:56 pm, 20/11/2020] +: We've just passed the 5 minute mark 
So today has been relatively unproductive but interesting insights from @Berny nonetheless 
Hope our dear @REACH Singapore OG Megan considers the circumstances hor 🀭 
If not we'll see more and more people becoming... unREACHable! 
Ok good night everybahdee, let's hope for a more productive discussion at the next reopening
[6:59 pm, 20/11/2020] +: Dear Contributors,
We will be closing the chat for today.
Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Goodnight!
Megan
[6:59 pm, 20/11/2020] : Gdnite Megan!

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