Wednesday, November 4, 2020

REACH 161 - Further budget help of $8billion from reallocated fund (SK)

04 Nov 2020 (11am - 7pm)


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[11:59 am, 04/11/2020] +: Dear contributors,

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[12:00 pm, 04/11/2020] +: President Halimah Yacob has formally assented to the third Supplementary Supply and Budget Adjustments Bill that provides for an extra $8 billion in Covid-19 support, to provide support in sectors most severely affected by the coronavirus, including helping workers through the Jobs Support Scheme and Workfare Special Payment.

She said: "It authorises a reallocation of expenditure from areas with reduced spending, such as disruptions to development projects due to Covid-19.” 

"The Bill also includes some revenue foregone, but it does not result in a further draw on our past reserves beyond what I had given in-principle support for in March and May 2020."

The Government approved an unprecedented four budgets this year amid the Covid-19 crisis, amounting to nearly $100 billion.

Economic support measures will also cushion the rise in resident unemployment rate by about 1.7 percentage points this year. 

👉 https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/president-halimah-approves-extra-8-billion-for-covid-19-support-package

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[12:02 pm, 04/11/2020] +: @REACH Singapore 生意兴隆!! 

That's a lot of newbies sia!

[12:02 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Good afternoon Megan!

[12:03 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Good afternoon!

[12:04 pm, 04/11/2020] +: What’s the topic for today? Biden vs Trump?

[12:08 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Hahaha confirm about this lah but we know G2 too well 

Home of monologues, previously personal attacks and discussing about something before it becomes the topic then everyone discusses about something else 😂

[12:12 pm, 04/11/2020] +: 😅

[12:12 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Donald trump has a high chance of winning

[12:14 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Saw today news.. 1 person even disowned mum to vote trumo

[12:14 pm, 04/11/2020] +: On a side note, 

is online liquor sale legal?

[12:14 pm, 04/11/2020] +: think so

[12:14 pm, 04/11/2020] +: I saw alot of platforms

[12:14 pm, 04/11/2020] +: but must deliver to a adult


[12:15 pm, 04/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

As long as there's no further draw on the reserves, but reallocate funds - should not be an issue.


[12:15 pm, 04/11/2020] +: If it is not legal then the admin of platform will give warning.

[12:15 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Authorities should look into this?

[12:15 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Danny boy lai liao!

[12:16 pm, 04/11/2020] +: He has already won florid a.

[12:16 pm, 04/11/2020] +: 👋

[12:16 pm, 04/11/2020] +: 😏


[12:19 pm, 04/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Biden need another 78 Electoral votes to win.


[12:26 pm, 04/11/2020] +: https://www.google.com.hk/amp/s/www.actionnetwork.com/politics/election-odds-predictions-trump-biden-betting-presidential-race-2020

[12:29 pm, 04/11/2020] +: With a good course and not going beyond the amount previously agreed, should gain full support from the ground.

[12:30 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Who could be a better US leader that will bring prosperities to both western and eastern world?


[12:30 pm, 04/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Biden.

[12:33 pm, 04/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Democrats win in house of representatives.


REACH

[12:35 pm, 04/11/2020] +: 📢 Topic 📢

President Halimah Yacob has formally assented to the third Supplementary Supply and Budget Adjustments Bill that provides for an extra $8 billion in Covid-19 support, to provide support in sectors most severely affected by the coronavirus, including helping workers through the Jobs Support Scheme and Workfare Special Payment.

She said: "It authorises a reallocation of expenditure from areas with reduced spending, such as disruptions to development projects due to Covid-19.” 

"The Bill also includes some revenue foregone, but it does not result in a further draw on our past reserves beyond what I had given in-principle support for in March and May 2020."

The Government approved an unprecedented four budgets this year amid the Covid-19 crisis, amounting to nearly $100 billion.

Economic support measures will also cushion the rise in resident unemployment rate by about 1.7 percentage points this year. 

👉 https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/president-halimah-approves-extra-8-billion-for-covid-19-support-package

[1:27 pm, 04/11/2020] +: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/sustainability-should-be-put-at-the-core-of-post-pandemic-recovery-plans-grace-fu

[1:48 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Rebate and incentives for household to switch to more eco-friendly options are always great. 

Further clarity for public to know how much all the household eco friendly options can help us to score better in CO2-footprint compared to commercial and industrial level alternatives will further strengthen the message and rallying even better support for public to collectively address the international  CO2-compliance issues. 

What do you all think?

[1:49 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Currently sustainability talks are all a sham 

We need more action taken

[1:51 pm, 04/11/2020] +: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/environment/singapore-to-update-climate-pledge-it-made-under-paris-agreement-masagos

[1:51 pm, 04/11/2020] +: This is a positive move and very forward thinking. The medium to long term future is sustainability - food, tech, waste, energy. The whole world will need this and Singapore can be at the forefront.

[1:52 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Yes, ultimately it's about clear defined and measurable action.

[1:52 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Figures show that we are lagging behind.

[1:54 pm, 04/11/2020] +: I'm sorry but SG just isn't the leader for sustainability

[1:54 pm, 04/11/2020] +: May not be a bad thing. Gives us more time to ensure our budget is well spent rather than spending on things that are not practical

[1:56 pm, 04/11/2020] +: 👍

[1:57 pm, 04/11/2020] +: For sustainability wise, I think it’s important to stop cutting down dense forests in Singapore to make way for other land uses. E.g Clementi forest etc. There are dense forested areas in Singapore not protected by nature reserve status or not used as military training ground but still serve an important function in Singapore. 

Some of these forest have more plants species than forests in the northern hemisphere (temperate forest in European countries or in North America) 

These few forests that Singapore is left with can help to regulate the temperature in Singapore. There’s also a lot of unquantifiable value in them.

[1:58 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Too little is actually known about our carbon footprint 

Sure, not flying around reduces carbon footprint a lot but what about electricity that we use more now since CB? 

Can we make our energy sources more resilient apart from buying from Malaysia?

[2:04 pm, 04/11/2020] +: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/parliament-phase-3-could-last-over-a-year-restrictions-may-be-reimposed-if-cases

[2:10 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Agree there is a need for this. I’m concerned about some issues that may arise in the future

1) massive inflation

2) negative interest rates 

3) elimination of $1000 notes that make it more cumbersome for us to withdraw cash in the event of negative rates

4) if more people fall into poverty due to a combination of massive inflation and negative rates and not much assets then more financial assistance is needed to support this bigger pool of needy people, thereby taxing more of the dwindling middle income group

5) our CPF savings and insurance policies may produce negative returns after inflation 

Sidetrack: I sense our G becoming very slightly dystopian— elimination of $1000 notes, KYC to be done on all buyers of precious metals and gemstones even if you just purchase a $40 silver coin, our biometric data being stored in G databases

[2:18 pm, 04/11/2020] +: https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-11-03/jack-ma-s-blunt-china-bank-talk-cost-ant-its-35-billion-ipo

[2:24 pm, 04/11/2020] +: We are moving in the right direction with each effort we put in.


[2:37 pm, 04/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Trump overtake.


[2:39 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Not surprising


[2:39 pm, 04/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Biden overtake.


[2:39 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Oh!

[2:40 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Anyway which way but loose!?


[2:40 pm, 04/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Very close contest.


[2:40 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Today's topic is token go where?

[2:40 pm, 04/11/2020] +: More than down to the wire!

[2:41 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Nope


[2:41 pm, 04/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Yes. No one knows who will be the winner until the last.


[2:41 pm, 04/11/2020] +: When will know the final result?

[2:41 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Tonight? 3 days later?

[2:41 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Left with the court battle and tge street carnage!

[2:42 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Won't be so fast


[2:42 pm, 04/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Don't know.

Mail in votes haven't count.

Dispute will arise.


[2:42 pm, 04/11/2020] +: I am amazed they can count so fast

[2:43 pm, 04/11/2020] +: depends on who "wins" now

[2:43 pm, 04/11/2020] +: the winner sure say no need to wait anymore

[2:43 pm, 04/11/2020] +: the loser sure say wait for more mailed votes to come in and count


[2:44 pm, 04/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Dispute will arise and ugly scene will rear its head.


[2:46 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Yes

[2:46 pm, 04/11/2020] +: I heard it is trump’s day

[2:47 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Likely

[2:47 pm, 04/11/2020] +: https://www.sdo.gov.sg/programmes/scan-pay-win/

Eat and Win

[2:47 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Looks like it


[2:48 pm, 04/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: In person voting trump got advantage.

Mail in votes yet to count - Biden got advantage.

Who wins nobody knows.


[2:48 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Another 4 years of exciting gobal politics 😂

[2:48 pm, 04/11/2020] +: More than 50% counted likely no hope to change Liow

[2:49 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Wah. Half half lei. Tml wake up, will USA have internal war?

[2:49 pm, 04/11/2020] +: If it's split by Half of the votes

[2:51 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Civil War 2.0 using Twitter and Facebook

[2:51 pm, 04/11/2020] +: :3

[2:51 pm, 04/11/2020] +: SMW

[2:51 pm, 04/11/2020] +: social media war

[2:51 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Twitter is where the text violence comes from and Facebook is where the fake news goes to 😆

[2:51 pm, 04/11/2020] +: SMH

[2:51 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Instagram?

[2:52 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Instagram ain't the platform for politics, you'd see more pics of your fam than politics

[2:52 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Instagram safe!

[2:52 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Cham Cham Cham Trump for the win liao.

[2:52 pm, 04/11/2020] +: True story!

[3:16 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Some state in state of emergency already

[3:19 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Are there reports already?

[3:20 pm, 04/11/2020] +: National guard already on standby but expect provocation by militia groups

[3:20 pm, 04/11/2020] +: State of emergency means what

[3:22 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Restricted movements and curfews

[3:22 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Wah, how to go Phase 3 if got uncles comfortable enough now to spit on the ground. It's not like covid disappeared

[3:23 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Uncles will be uncles

[3:23 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Enforcement agencies efforts strategy not having desired effect!?

[3:24 pm, 04/11/2020] +: they on soft approach now

[3:24 pm, 04/11/2020] +: hard kanna say

[3:24 pm, 04/11/2020] +: soft also kanna say

[3:24 pm, 04/11/2020] +: talk politely and nicely to the elderly

[3:33 pm, 04/11/2020] +: https://www.google.com.sg/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/national/officials-prepare-for-the-unpredictableas-a-tense-election-day-arrives/2020/11/02/d5673eee-1d27-11eb-b532-05c751cd5dc2_story.html%3foutputType=amp

[3:42 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Singapore reports 7 new COVID-19 cases, including 2 in foreign workers' dormitories. 

https://cna.asia/3kWSzbc

[3:58 pm, 04/11/2020] +: [Sent by Gov.sg – 4 Nov]

As of 12pm, MOH has preliminarily confirmed 2 new cases of locally transmitted COVID-19 infection.

Based on investigations so far, both reside in dormitories and there are no new cases in the community.

There are 5 imported cases who had been placed on Stay-Home Notice upon arrival in Singapore. In total, there are 7 new cases of COVID-19 infection in Singapore today.

MOH will share further updates in its press release that will be issued later tonight.

go.gov.sg/moh4novupdate

[4:00 pm, 04/11/2020] +: AGC had sufficient evidence to prosecute ex-maid Parti Liyani, and police investigators and prosecutors had assessed that she was untruthful, said Law Minister K. Shanmugam. 

https://str.sg/JuzM

Parti Liyani case: Liew Mun Leong’s son Karl Liew is being investigated for potential criminal offences including perjury, says Law Minister K Shanmugam in Parliament.

https://cna.asia/366hYc6

[4:04 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Parti Liyani case: Karl Liew investigated for possible perjury, other crimes; decision on further action ‘very soon’ https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/parti-liyani-case-karl-liew-investigated-possible-perjury-other-crimes-decision-further?cid=telegram_tg-single_social-free_26012019_today#.X6JbJxylSm4.whatsapp

[4:27 pm, 04/11/2020] +: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/parliament-agc-will-consider-looking-into-serious-offences-indicated-by-court

[4:35 pm, 04/11/2020] +: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/parliament-review-of-parti-liyani-case-shows-no-improper-influence-by-liew-mun


[4:39 pm, 04/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Both candidates say they can win.

[4:39 pm, 04/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Actually Biden run out of states already.

[4:39 pm, 04/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Don't know.

According to him, in some swing States, he is leading.

If he win this swing States, he will win.

So look like only the last minute, then we know who win.


[4:39 pm, 04/11/2020] +: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/police-agc-reason-take-action-against-parti-liyani-shanmugam-13462578

[4:43 pm, 04/11/2020] +: IMHO I believe that the sg justice system is fair, regardless of social status

[4:43 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Yes correct

[4:44 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Parliament: AGC will consider looking into serious offences indicated by court judgment and decisions https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/parliament-agc-will-consider-looking-into-serious-offences-indicated-by-court?&utm_source=whatsapp&utm_medium=social-media&utm_campaign=addtoany

[4:47 pm, 04/11/2020] +: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/parliament-shanmugam-admits-lapse-in-parti-liyani-probe-says-police-should-have

[5:00 pm, 04/11/2020] +: So, whose head will roll!?

[5:00 pm, 04/11/2020] +: probably the kachang IO

[5:01 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Hahaha later kacang putih lesson come out laa

[5:01 pm, 04/11/2020] +: setting it up already what, that the IO was "overwhelmed"

[5:02 pm, 04/11/2020] +: No no the other kacang putih lesson

[5:02 pm, 04/11/2020] +: the 600k lesson?

[5:02 pm, 04/11/2020] +: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/parliament-criminal-justice-system-works-and-vital-to-uphold-its-integrity-says

[5:14 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Not any higher up like from agc!?

[5:15 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Yeah

[5:24 pm, 04/11/2020] +: can enlighten me, what kacang putih lesson? 😅

[5:25 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Something about MW vs PWM that time, you wait for him to explain to you 😂

[5:25 pm, 04/11/2020] +: 🤣

[5:25 pm, 04/11/2020] +: omg no!!!!

[6:29 pm, 04/11/2020] +: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/next-generation-pandemic-ready-medical-centre-opens-at-tengah-air-base

[6:31 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Unfortunately motherhood statements like this do not explain or reassure on what happened during the maid case

[6:32 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Exactly

[6:32 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Let's see the investigation results and I hope they don't whitewash ut

[6:32 pm, 04/11/2020] +: It

[6:32 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Cases like this need full scrutiny to assure us

[6:32 pm, 04/11/2020] +: You never know

[6:32 pm, 04/11/2020] +: I have this unpleasant feeling that there are more such cases that never saw the light of day

[6:32 pm, 04/11/2020] +: The maid was lucky

[6:33 pm, 04/11/2020] +: My sentiment exactly

[6:35 pm, 04/11/2020] +: the point was made that there was no influence or abuse of authority. but that's just the sideshow and a strawman argument. the main point about whether the police, judge, and prosecutors had operated under a bias (whether conscious or unconscious) which tilted the benefit of doubt against Parti because the complainant is a man of standing and she's a domestic helper accused of theft (which is dime in a dozen). nothing was said about whether there was systemic bias.

[6:36 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Food for thought

[6:52 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Dear Contributors!

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[7:02 pm, 04/11/2020] +: 👍👏🙏✋🤙👌

[7:04 pm, 04/11/2020] +: Hi REACH Contributors,

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