REACH 171 - Sustainability (SK)

30 Nov 2020 (11am - 7pm)

REACH

[11:00 am, 30/11/2020] +: 📢 Topic 📢 

Singapore is stepping up efforts to grow more food locally, to help local farms ramp up production over the next six to 24 months by leveraging technology. 

💬 How can we play a more active part in Singapore’s sustainability efforts? 

In September, the Singapore Food Agency under the Ministry of Sustainability and the Environment (MSE) awarded close to $40 million under its 30X30 express grant to accelerate local food production. 

Beyond food supply, with pressing issues on everything from water supply to sea-level rise, 

MSE is also looking at turning waste into a resource by squeezing value from every dreg.  

At the same time, Singapore is preparing to protect itself against sea-level rise and has since 2011 raised the minimum level for newly reclaimed land from 3 to 4 metres, above the mean sea level. 

👉  https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/environment/diversification-of-food-sources-cannot-be-only-strategy-in-the-face-of-global

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[11:01 am, 30/11/2020] +: Can gov stop printing letters in all 4 languages to a citizen? Like the rediscovery singapore

[11:01 am, 30/11/2020] +: 40 and below should be able to read eng

[11:02 am, 30/11/2020] +: Lol to be fair no choice... we have 4 major race mah

[11:02 am, 30/11/2020] +: If say Singapore is indeed "looking at turning waste into a resource by squeezing value from every dreg" then I hope to see something like drivelines that are powered by trash and to continue looking into actual sustainability efforts - moving from natural gas to other cleaner sources and accept the fact that e-mobility is not actually that clean

[11:02 am, 30/11/2020] +: 40 and above can print eng and their language based on race?

[11:02 am, 30/11/2020] +: We wasted 3 million pages? Lol 

We got 3 million citizens?

[11:02 am, 30/11/2020] +: For me is, can the government seriously just mail one to the household rather than one letter per person? That's not very sustainable is it? And if your family likes to hide mail from you then really, that's your problem

[11:03 am, 30/11/2020] +: Err mainly for elderly that can only read Chinese. But cannot just print Chinese politically correct then print all lanaguge

[11:03 am, 30/11/2020] +: 1 per household is risky, imagine if it is genuinely lost in mail

[11:04 am, 30/11/2020] +: Just like they send us the ez link without money... do we really need two more ez link?

[11:04 am, 30/11/2020] +: If race is malay then print malay translation lor

[11:04 am, 30/11/2020] +: HDB mail is 1 per household (to the owners) what

[11:04 am, 30/11/2020] +: What mail is that?

[11:04 am, 30/11/2020] +: Hard to control and postman tough job, if like that we know what race stay where

[11:04 am, 30/11/2020] +: But the 30x30, I do see Nparks releasing more gardening plots lately, it would be nice if we have a "composting" scheme on top of the existing recycle scheme, compost can turn into black gols

[11:04 am, 30/11/2020] +: Oh like that double the job lah think about it 

They have to run through database, this envelope must put in Bahasa Melayu, this one Bahasa Cina, etc

[11:04 am, 30/11/2020] +: Gov have ma

[11:05 am, 30/11/2020] +: With digitalization, am sure can be done

[11:05 am, 30/11/2020] +: Yeah well it's still double job

[11:05 am, 30/11/2020] +: Logistical quite hard, we are talking 3 mil population, if family mixed race then send Chinese, Malay or Indian?

[11:06 am, 30/11/2020] +: I'm sticking with Ken on this

[11:06 am, 30/11/2020] +: I mean still send to individuals

[11:06 am, 30/11/2020] +: So print on 1 A4

[11:06 am, 30/11/2020] +: For this one rather carpet bomb than customised based on race or what language they understand lol

[11:06 am, 30/11/2020] +: Instead of now 2 A4, with 4 languages

[11:06 am, 30/11/2020] +: Print control and to manage it.. I did before crazy to do it

[11:07 am, 30/11/2020] +: Will end up more wastage and MOQ cannot hit another price again

[11:08 am, 30/11/2020] +: To save is print only one language... only way

[11:18 am, 30/11/2020] +: Which one more important, save paper or save cost? 🤣

[11:18 am, 30/11/2020] +: Need to have balance... 

ease of implementation and cost effective method

[11:19 am, 30/11/2020] +: And politically correct

[11:19 am, 30/11/2020] +: Exactly

[11:19 am, 30/11/2020] +: Balance Practicality and Cost-effectiveness per my values

[11:19 am, 30/11/2020] +: Nowadays people are just overly sensitive 🤷🏻‍♂️

[11:20 am, 30/11/2020] +: They have been since forever lol remember the Chinese MRT announcement? How come SBST can keep SMRT cannot har? Unfair hor

[11:22 am, 30/11/2020] +: It is very hard to apply for grant... checked. 

Yes many have abuse, but making it harder don’t make it easier for people having interest to get into the business.

The new policy help the existing players more than getting new blood in.

[11:24 am, 30/11/2020] +: How do Singapore fight with country that are so much lesser even with transport. Specially our neighbors are full of cheap labour and land. 

Local won’t support local farms as much as we hope. Due to the fact of cost.

[11:24 am, 30/11/2020] +: 🤷🏻‍♂️ sometimes just ignore, life have many other things we should be concern of.

[11:25 am, 30/11/2020] +: Will heavy subsidies help!?

[11:25 am, 30/11/2020] +: I have seen Jurong Island and am concerned that it may be vulnerable to sea level rises. I’m not sure of its average elevation above sea level but it seems pretty flat. There are multi billion dollar infrastructure invested there and I guess if rising sea levels due to climate change affects it, that would be bad for Singapore’s economy. My personal thoughts have been the construction of sea walls to protect the island but I’m not sure how much it would cost and how long it would take. 

Just my thoughts

[11:26 am, 30/11/2020] +: Not subsidies never said that... more of helping to promote buying local... but the problem is cost.

We willing to spend more on Japanese product at a premium. But local food is like local only lol

[11:26 am, 30/11/2020] +: Yeah I will confront them in the future by putting Chinese announcements anyway lol

[11:27 am, 30/11/2020] +: Don’t worry if you are on the island you see that they have been constantly adding and building to prevent what you are worried about.

[11:27 am, 30/11/2020] +: Currently, I’m working on 3R projects

[11:28 am, 30/11/2020] +: It’s already happening... expanding and direct water and design.

[11:28 am, 30/11/2020] +: I think the government should explore pushing such letters electronically to those with Singpass since they would have their mobile phone numbers and other details. No sense printing in full colour, mailing out, and then only to have the recipient read it for 39 seconds and throw out.

[11:28 am, 30/11/2020] +: Can put below waste bin's plastic bag

[11:28 am, 30/11/2020] +: Thanks, Ken. I’ve not been back to Jurong Island for years so I’ve not been able to observe the changes. Thank you.

[11:28 am, 30/11/2020] +: To contain and bag leak

[11:29 am, 30/11/2020] +: Not everyone have email, and know how to use it. Flyers is one of the way to get to the elderly.

Till they totally no longer around it will still be the way of communicating.

[11:30 am, 30/11/2020] +: My plant was by the sea 1 year ago.. now the sea line is like 100 m away 🤦🏻

No more sea breeze... just grassland all the way haiz

[11:30 am, 30/11/2020] +: Another would be posters. Flyers are loose leaf and would be littered. Posters may work better for public information

[11:31 am, 30/11/2020] +: Good input, basically physical means must still be around even as we progress digitally

[11:31 am, 30/11/2020] +: That would work, usually comes hand in hand with TV as well.

[11:32 am, 30/11/2020] +: Most HDB blocks now have those digital notice board next to the lifts. Maybe that's another way to push these messages out?

[11:32 am, 30/11/2020] +: some TC are working with some company for the digital noticeboard

[11:32 am, 30/11/2020] +: it's some side income for TC too, win win situation

[11:33 am, 30/11/2020] +: The blue line on wards was once sea 1 year ago..

[11:34 am, 30/11/2020] +: Yup more and more pop up... just refresh a bit too fast want to see also cannot catch sometimes

[11:34 am, 30/11/2020] +: Generally its 10-15 sec per slide iirc

[11:35 am, 30/11/2020] +: Or at least the one I worked with previously is around that timing

[11:39 am, 30/11/2020] +: Dutch experts have been working with our government on the appropriate dykes for this.

[11:40 am, 30/11/2020] +: I guess SPM mobile notification is in the pipeline next year. Like passport and renew IC notifications.

[11:41 am, 30/11/2020] +: Notice that IOT improvement are getting faster recently. Can feel the push and improvement drastically in the recent few years.

[11:44 am, 30/11/2020] +: But we still have three apps (SPM, OneService, LifeSG or something) that are fighting to be the standard app 

Will the similar functions across all three apps eventually be merged into one app?

[11:45 am, 30/11/2020] +: OneMap is very very good

[11:45 am, 30/11/2020] +: Uhh no not that

[11:45 am, 30/11/2020] +: Another area of concern is on food waste. SDG goal of consumption sustainability is to reduce food waste by half. Past business practices in retail is to dump unsightly produce as they are not so easily sold. Other ways of dealing with food waste must be found.

[11:45 am, 30/11/2020] +: I used it for my house purchased 

Can check distance from parents house, nearby school, recent transactions price for house etc

[11:47 am, 30/11/2020] +: Dump? Not even giving it for free?

[11:49 am, 30/11/2020] +: Giving for free affects the market, then again Singaporean unlikely to take free food if it is ugly. 🤣

The thing in giving ugly food, cause no money is earn. Need delegated volunteers to manage the ugly food if not will be a disaster.

[11:49 am, 30/11/2020] +: If it's going to be thrown away anyway, I don't really see your point

[11:50 am, 30/11/2020] +: There are some food fridge setup in some areas.. but are maintain by volunteers. If more willing to step up to help then it will work

[11:50 am, 30/11/2020] +: There are some near to expire... that can be consume otherwise

[11:50 am, 30/11/2020] +: Breadtalk donate their bread to NGO

[11:50 am, 30/11/2020] +: Otherwise thrown food yah out of the question

[11:51 am, 30/11/2020] +: It is very hard to manage perishable

[11:52 am, 30/11/2020] +: Erm ok you also need to consolidate your messages into one as far as possible

[11:57 am, 30/11/2020] +: There are companies already setup to deal with it.

https://www.uglyfood.com.sg

But Singapore rarely catch up to this due to some reasons. 

Local NGO is doing such a good job that they rarely even need to take ugly food.

Local Singapore that can afford, don’t think is worth buying or even avoid in normal supermarkets that looks weird. Amount of wastage I pretty sure supermarkets know that is part of the running cost.

Perishable most NGO won’t take due to the problem of if not consume it will be thrown. High number of waste will required manpower and cost to throw them away hence most NGO reject them.

The benefit of keeping them safe to eat is quite stressful for most. Unless we have a team of people willing to work on it for free for the clause if not it will be all just talk.

[11:57 am, 30/11/2020] +: I think gov official correspondence will be via SPM.

[0:01 pm, 30/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

1. I support the use of less plastic bag.

2. But single use plastic bags from supermarket are dual used - as they are used to bag liquid and solid wastes at home.

3. If supermarket start to levy charges for plastic bag, how to bag the liquid waste and solid waste at home?

3. Many people may just throw their waste down in the rubbish chutes and pollute the environment.

[0:01 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Lol ugly something has arose from his slumber, let us evacuate 😂

Ken

[0:05 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Plastic bag are actually cost effective and carbon effective then reusable ones...😅

Cause we rarely reuse the plastic bag enough for the so called reusable bags. 

But to pay for plastic bags I do agree, will force the supermarket to think of ways to reduce packaging. Or the consumers to be more aware of plastic bags.

Disclaimer I work in plastic resin plant. But is based on what I observed.

Blue and White Flag Guy

[0:06 pm, 30/11/2020] +: I personally don't dispose of plastic bags immediately, can always reuse it for something else so long the bag is clean

Ken

[0:06 pm, 30/11/2020] +: The so call biodegradable plastic bags actually is making recycling harder

[0:07 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Which is actually not environmental friendly due to micro plastic generated and hence banned in the whole EU.

[0:08 pm, 30/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

NTUC is charging the use of plastic bag.

I worry that people will stop bagging their waste at home and start to throw their liquid waste and solid waste down the rubbish chutes.

This will invite more cockroaches, ants, mosquito.

Ken

[0:08 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Lots of EU countries buy their disposal bag and count disposal by bag

[0:08 pm, 30/11/2020] +: No bag no throw

[0:09 pm, 30/11/2020] +: It is still hard for Singapore

[0:09 pm, 30/11/2020] +: We just throw without consequences...

+left

[0:09 pm, 30/11/2020] +: A fixed fee and don’t need to care.. which is causing a major problems for cities

[0:10 pm, 30/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

But they are still using plastic bags to bag waste - which is cost to people.

[0:10 pm, 30/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Now people got it free by buying groceries.

Ken

[0:10 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Cause you use money to buy, you will make sure you use it till full. Cause it is not cheap.

[0:11 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Non-bank financial institutions to get access to FAST, PayNow

From February next year, eligible non-bank financial institutions will have direct access to retail payment services like Fast and Secure Transfers (FAST) and PayNow. 

This will allow users to make real-time funds transfers between bank accounts and e-wallets, as well as across different e-wallets, said the Monetary Authority of Singapore (MAS) in a media release on Monday (Nov 30). 

More: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/business/paynow-fast-mas-non-bank-financial-institutions-13667768

Ken

[0:11 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Hence use less bags

[0:11 pm, 30/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Exactly the cost is not cheap.

[0:12 pm, 30/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Rich people no issue.

Lower and middle income people will make noise.

Ken

[0:12 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Yah... hence not possible till we all think it is necessary to control it

[0:12 pm, 30/11/2020] +: To fit our way of living

[0:13 pm, 30/11/2020] +: If we can spilt organic waste and non organic waste first will be a first step

Anne

[0:14 pm, 30/11/2020] +: My hb and I don’t mind ugly food if can get at lower price or free. Maybe can explore this area. Or charge higher for pretty looking food.

[0:19 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Point 3 is spot on - that’s what cheap skate people will do - and many Singaporeans can be pretty cheap skate.

[0:36 pm, 30/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Well reuse plastic bags to bag home waste is the MoEnv initiative.

It encourage people to do so.

I am not sure whether it is cheap skate or not.

But I certainly support this idea, because it encourage people not to pollute the environment, and also reused the plastic bag and not to waste them.

[0:37 pm, 30/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

It also helps lower income and middle income to save money.

[0:38 pm, 30/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Three benefits.

[0:21 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Possibly

[0:29 pm, 30/11/2020] +: 👍

[0:32 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Does it include kopitiam cards?

[0:45 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Local inventor creates portable PCR test kit for Covid-19 which can detect coronavirus in 5 minutes https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/local-inventor-creates-portable-pcr-test-kit-for-covid-19-which-can-detect-coronavirus-in?&utm_source=whatsapp&utm_medium=social-media&utm_campaign=addtoany

[0:46 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Cyber security faces threat from 'ransomware': Yomiuri Shimbun https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/cyber-security-faces-threat-from-ransomware-yomiuri-shimbun?&utm_source=whatsapp&utm_medium=social-media&utm_campaign=addtoany

[0:47 pm, 30/11/2020] +: They're nearly a century old and have spent three quarters of their life married to one another:: https://www.asiaone.com/lifestyle/theyre-nearly-century-old-and-have-spent-three-quarters-their-life-married-one-another?utm_source=whatsapp&utm_medium=social-media&utm_campaign=addtoany

[1:02 pm, 30/11/2020] +: 💬 How can we play a more active part in Singapore’s sustainability efforts?

1) Waste less. This will include industries, retail, businesses and residents all to play their part. Incentivize different segments to waste less and gamify programs that encourage less waste or recycling.

2) For general waste, find a way to turn ALL of them into recycled materials or resources. Heavy subsidies for companies who specialize in turn waste into green products.

3) For the 30x30 plan, giving out free seeds is a good move. I’ve seen many friends share on FB their grown plants etc. it’s still a long way but that’s a good start to get us interested in green and gardening.

4) Wont talk about automating farms here which I’ve already covered. Ensure farms themselves reduc…

[1:14 pm, 30/11/2020] +: We should add another R to the three Rs:  Refuse, Reduce, Reuse, Recycle.

[1:15 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Bag your Refuse - wrong Refuse but you get what I mean 🤭

[1:15 pm, 30/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

This new SafeEntry gateway is a vast improvement.

No need to scan the QR code on the tracetogether token.

It instead use Bluetooth to communicate between the tracetogether token Bluetooth signal with the gateway to register entry.

[1:16 pm, 30/11/2020] +: I refuse go bag my refuse properly and dropping them into the recycle bin hoping that it can be recycled

[1:17 pm, 30/11/2020] +: AI automation is taking over jobs. Will anyone be spared?:: https://www.asiaone.com/digital/ai-automation-taking-over-jobs-will-anyone-be-spared?utm_source=whatsapp&utm_medium=social-media&utm_campaign=addtoany

[1:19 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Refuse, Reduce, Reuse, Recycle, Reflect

[1:20 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Lai I joker add another one

[1:20 pm, 30/11/2020] +: OR REGRET

[1:21 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Eventually, we have to reduce operation cost and efficiency. 

Yes more jobs will be lost, but also more jobs will be created to support the AI related jobs. 

Low skill workers will be at risk that’s for sure.

[1:21 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Nobad

[1:21 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Regret will be when climate change wrecks havoc on the world

[1:22 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Either this or companies move to countries that are more willing to adopt technologies

[1:22 pm, 30/11/2020] +: #notadadbutadadjoke

[1:22 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Youngsters no regret, they yolo attitude

[1:22 pm, 30/11/2020] +: 👀

[1:22 pm, 30/11/2020] +: But of course there are those who actually care luh so don't discredit them because of the majority of YPs out there 😆

[1:23 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Yes, there are some

[1:23 pm, 30/11/2020] +: The only way ppl will go green is when there’s incentives

[1:23 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Or up tariff

[1:23 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Just like the Steps Challenge and LumiHealth etc

[1:23 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Many policy are... lol if not who want to rock the boat?

[1:23 pm, 30/11/2020] +: You gamify it

[1:24 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Or even bother to do it?

[1:24 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Gamification is widespread across the world but of course my examples are all mobility

[1:25 pm, 30/11/2020] +: When you have rewards for green actions, collectively will see some change

[1:27 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Some RC got trash for cash initiative

[1:27 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Bring in recyclables and once u hit certain weight, they give u ntuc voucher

[1:27 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Not enough bah

[1:27 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Not widespread enough

[1:27 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Bo bian ah, nobody supporting

[1:28 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Unless top down from nea initiatives with refuse collectors

[1:28 pm, 30/11/2020] +: But use a lot of resources

[1:28 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Hence gov initiatives for green companies must be high

[1:28 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Like solar panels etc

[1:30 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Lol y'all should meet my mum someday after this C-word, she has lots to say 'bout recycling and I don't disagree with her

[1:31 pm, 30/11/2020] +: C-word? Coconut?

[1:31 pm, 30/11/2020] +: COVID

[1:31 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Entire industries need to change too

[1:32 pm, 30/11/2020] +: In Europe they are using wood as building materials instead of concrete etc

[1:32 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Exactly, we mention before hor - don't just curb the demand, supply has to be curbed as well what

[1:32 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Renewable resources is the way to go

[1:41 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Agree

[1:45 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Two private firms to operate 30 SCDF ambulances as part of new Government-contractor model https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/scdf-private-ambulance-operators-respond-emergency-calls-model-13667770#.X8SHAR1Jd9Y.whatsapp

[1:46 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Two private firms to operate 30 SCDF ambulances as part of new Government-contractor model

Two private ambulance operators contracted to the Singapore Civil Defence Force (SCDF) will respond to emergency calls in SCDF uniforms and ambulances starting from Tuesday (Dec 1). 

This follows a new contract between SCDF and the two private ambulance operators - Unistrong Technology and Lentor Ambulance, said SCDF on Monday. 

Under the new model, crew from the two operators are trained to respond to a wider range of emergencies, such as mass casualty incidents and unconventional threats involving chemical, biological, radiological and explosive elements.

More: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/scdf-private-ambulance-operators-respond-emergency-calls-model-13667770

[1:46 pm, 30/11/2020] +: LOL ambulance also tio GCM

[1:49 pm, 30/11/2020] +: How can.

[1:50 pm, 30/11/2020] +: what's GCM?

[1:56 pm, 30/11/2020] +: in a National emergency, are employees of the ambulance needed to help?

[1:57 pm, 30/11/2020] +: I think it's not a bad idea actually. Doing this may increase efficiency, and these firms will have to comply with strict guidelines and i'm sure they will do their best to comply as they wouldn't want to breach the contract or have the contract terminated or not renewed (hence reduces complacency in the profession).

[1:57 pm, 30/11/2020] +: I'm sure their contracts will require the vendors to do so

[1:58 pm, 30/11/2020] +: are they oblige to work/help?

[2:14 pm, 30/11/2020] +: https://goodyfeed.com/movement-restrictions-dorms/

[2:18 pm, 30/11/2020] +: LTA calls for bids to build 600 electric vehicle charging points in 200 carparks https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/lta-calls-for-bids-to-build-600-electric-vehicle-charging-points-in-200-carparks?&utm_source=whatsapp&utm_medium=social-media&utm_campaign=addtoany

[2:20 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Aiyo read the title lah sia

[2:20 pm, 30/11/2020] +: I means what does it mean?

[2:20 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Just a contract?

[2:20 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Or what's the different with other contract

[2:21 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Economy is slow. Gahmen spending to help provide employment and create activities.

[2:21 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Is essentially the same reason why mah buses are green

[2:23 pm, 30/11/2020] +: I thought they are green because the corporate colour is green. 🤣😉🤭

[2:24 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Uh no

[2:24 pm, 30/11/2020] +: The green stands for "gahmen takes over"

[2:26 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Green economy

[2:32 pm, 30/11/2020] +: I support this move. Not all first responders have to be from gov agencies. As long as they are trained professionals, they will do a competent job (maybe they work even better cos contractor is NOT iron rice bowl).

[2:32 pm, 30/11/2020] +: My 2.14 cents

[2:33 pm, 30/11/2020] +: NEA also outsource to CISCO to check dengue liao

[2:33 pm, 30/11/2020] +: This I actually agree, there are private ambulance drivers out there

[2:33 pm, 30/11/2020] +: but I not sure how to see they from CISCO or NEA if they wear the NEA unfirom

[2:33 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Wasn’t there an initiative a few years ago to train ppl with CPR and first responder skills at community level?

[2:34 pm, 30/11/2020] +: CEPP

[2:34 pm, 30/11/2020] +: I think we were on high alert about terrorist attack back then

[2:34 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Yes this

[2:34 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Hence volunteers could be first responder too

[2:34 pm, 30/11/2020] +: CEPP wasn't really terrorism-focused like SGSecure kind

[2:35 pm, 30/11/2020] +: I think they bundle them up together lol

[2:35 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Cepp is like the foundation

[2:35 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Sg secure is the more indepth one

[2:35 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Cos security threat and first response goes hand in hand

[2:35 pm, 30/11/2020] +: I know because i attended both before

[2:35 pm, 30/11/2020] +: The idea is hide, help and survive

[2:35 pm, 30/11/2020] +: No

[2:35 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Run hide tell

[2:36 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Haha yes this

[2:36 pm, 30/11/2020] +: You saw through me

[2:36 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Tried to smoke haha

[2:36 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Cos im a legitimate cert holder

[2:36 pm, 30/11/2020] +: HAHAHA

[2:36 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Alvin you rusty

[2:36 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Although when accident really happen, 90% I will panic and skip some

[2:37 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Actually SG curi Run Hide Tell from US 

US is Run Hide Fight

[2:38 pm, 30/11/2020] +: They got gun, we no have

[2:38 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Nothing to fight with

[2:38 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Why everything must be gun one

[2:38 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Their fight is ambush the guy lol

[2:38 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Terrorist hold gun how we fight

[2:39 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Bruh what's the difference

[2:39 pm, 30/11/2020] +: We can even ask someone to put on mask properly, not to mention, confront a armed guy

[2:49 pm, 30/11/2020] +: New Mediacorp initiative lets public donate festive care packs to people with disabilities

Mediacorp on Monday (Nov 30) launched the Mediacorp Care&Share initiative, which lets members of the public do their part for vulnerable members of the community during the festive season.

Organised in collaboration with SG Enable and partner brands, the digital campaign aims to rally the public to purchase and donate 2,000 specially curated festive packs to people with disabilities.

More: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/new-mediacorp-initiative-lets-public-donate-care-packs-13668480

[3:42 pm, 30/11/2020] +: But must meet critical criteria KPI like response time. Must be monitored for capabilities. Better than or at least meet existing

[3:45 pm, 30/11/2020] +: 5 new COVID-19 cases in Singapore, including 1 in the community

Singapore reported five new COVID-19 cases as of noon on Monday (Nov 30), the Ministry of Health (MOH) said in its preliminary daily update.

Of the new cases, one was a locally transmitted infection in the community and four were imported. 

No new cases were found in foreign workers' dormitories, said the health ministry. 

Details of the new cases will be released on Monday night, MOH added.

More: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-new-cases-nov-30-community-imported-moh-coronavirus-13667514

[4:08 pm, 30/11/2020] +: https://youtu.be/Kn2jbxDQ658

[4:12 pm, 30/11/2020] +: URA and LTA launch pilot tender for electric vehicle charging points in public car parks

More than 200 public car parks across Singapore may have charging stations for electric vehicles by the third quarter of 2022.

The Urban Redevelopment Authority (URA) and the Land Transport Authority (LTA) on Monday (Nov 30) announced the launch of Singapore's pilot tender for electric vehicle charging points at public car parks.

The tender covers the installation and operation of more than 600 charging points at more than 200 public car parks in housing estates, industrial estates, parks and community centres. 

More: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/ura-lta-tender-electric-vehicle-charging-points-car-parks-hdb-13668548

[5:09 pm, 30/11/2020] +: is it true that SDAs are employed by the mall itself?

[5:09 pm, 30/11/2020] +: or deployed by the gov?

[5:10 pm, 30/11/2020] +: About 1,250 workers to benefit from new training council by Shell and local employees’ union

Oil giant Shell has partnered with the Singapore Shell Employees’ Union (SSEU) to set up a council to train and upskill about 1,250 workers, in line with the company’s 10-year plan to cut its own carbon emissions in Singapore by about a third.

The Joint Capability Council (JCC), which comprises management representatives from both groups, aims to address training gaps in existing programmes and help equip workers with relevant skills, Shell and SSEU said in a joint release on Monday (Nov 30).

More: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/business/shell-singapore-sseu-training-council-upskill-1250-workers-13669090

[5:14 pm, 30/11/2020] +: how can we sustain SMM for a long period of time. even when in Phase 3

[5:15 pm, 30/11/2020] +: I think thru public education

[5:15 pm, 30/11/2020] +: like review of outbreaks like in Hong Kong & Korea - will work?

[5:17 pm, 30/11/2020] +: like this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBMvz4SI-Ok

[6:21 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Netizens ask why some employers demand to see PSLE results if they are not defined by scores 

 https://theindependent.sg/netizens-ask-why-some-employers-demand-to-see-psle-results-if-they-are-not-defined-by-scores/

[6:22 pm, 30/11/2020] +: F&B outlets in CBD, tourist areas seeing slow recovery; businesses need to pivot online: Chan Chun Sing

Some segments in the food and beverage (F&B) sector are still seeing slow recovery amid the COVID-19 pandemic, Trade and Industry Minister Chan Chun Sing said, reiterating the need for F&B companies to transform and diversify their revenue streams.

“Recovery remains slow for some segments, including outlets in the Central Business District and tourism-focused areas, as well as catering companies,” he said in prepared remarks on Monday (Nov 30) after visiting the Swee Choon dim sum restaurant in Jalan Besar.

More: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/business/covid-19-food-beverage-slow-recovery-online-chan-chun-sing-13668956

[6:23 pm, 30/11/2020] +: This, is spreading hatred imo

[6:24 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Take psle like pri 4 streaming will do ma

[6:25 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Imagine throwing a student who cant study (eg. Me) into a JC, not only will my real result suffer, I might end up being stressed and depressed too

[6:25 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Lol can I show them a metal bar at the end of escalators at a certain MRT station? 😊

[6:26 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Ooh, got meh?

[6:29 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Really!?

[6:30 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Got, no need show results la if can contribute to real life I think that's already way more powerful than some numbers 😊

[6:38 pm, 30/11/2020] +: https://goodyfeed.com/large-gathering-tekka-centre/

[6:39 pm, 30/11/2020] +: https://mothership.sg/2020/11/only-eg-egg-substitute/

[6:45 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Dear Contributors!

⏰ We will be closing the chat in 15 minutes ⏰

Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.

Goodnight!

Megan

[6:49 pm, 30/11/2020] +: 👏🤙✋🙏👌👍

[6:54 pm, 30/11/2020] +: gdnite megan!

[6:59 pm, 30/11/2020] +: Dear Contributors,

We will be closing the chat for today.

Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.

Goodnight!

Megan

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REACH 170 - Public Sector Outcome (SK)

27 Nov 2020 (11am - 10pm)

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[0:52 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Dear contributors,

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[0:53 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Incomes in Singapore have continued to rise in the past five years while necessities like education remain affordable. Furthermore, for the first time in five years, 2019 shows Singapore's Gini coefficient - a measure of income inequality - dipping below 0.4.

The Singapore Public Sector Outcomes Review (Spor), a stock-take of the sector's work that is unveiled every two years, rounds up key figures in such areas as the economy and social support. 

But unlike past editions, this year's review has a special section in recognition of the whole-of-nation effort to fight the coronavirus pandemic. Titled "Emerging Stronger as One", it highlights how Singaporeans, businesses and the community have stepped forward to partner the Government to help those in need. 

The four key takeaways for Singapore's economy include reduced income inequality and more work opportunities, competitive economy and workforce, a pro-business environment and improved access to digital services, but slowing growth and employment due to COVID-19. 

👉 https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/public-service-report-card-incomes-of-singaporeans-rise-and-inequality-falls-but-growth

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Blue and White Flag Guy

[0:55 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Happy Friyay OG Megan!! Since the topic is pretty much on partnership again, I hope we can hear more from other contributors about their opinion on PPPs 😊

+ changed this group's settings to allow all participants to send messages to this group.

Ben

[1:12 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Seems like a good topic. What feedback is being sought?

+ left

[1:16 pm, 27/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Singapore has done well.

After covid, we must attempt to recover from what we have lost.

[1:18 pm, 27/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

https://eurasiantimes.com/chinas-beidou-has-surpassed-american-gps-in-over-165-countries-reports/

China GPS surpass US GPS.

Many global geographical area coverage have been taken over by China.

China has captured many countries data in telecommunications, likely to drive 5G, autonomous cars, and in future may takeover the role to guide missiles guidance system.

Useful information for our telecom, satellites provider, 5G developers, military and home affairs.

As well as for our shipping lines that need guidance from GPS to navigate to foreign countries.

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[1:28 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Have MOH manage to find out where local transmission got it from?

[1:30 pm, 27/11/2020] +: I hope this group gets the heaviest penalty for being so socially irresponsible, little girl on MC still bring her out for gathering

[1:30 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Good afternoon @נתנאל חן ויי ליאנג 🇮🇱

[1:30 pm, 27/11/2020] +: More worrying is where the guy got it from

[1:30 pm, 27/11/2020] +: I also curious about it. Please advise us.

[1:31 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Yeah, agreed. Must fine or penalty gao gao

[1:31 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Likely the shipyard he work at, just my 3.14 cents guess

[1:31 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Good afternoon @Kevin bro

[1:31 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Oh, he worked at Shipyard previously?

[1:32 pm, 27/11/2020] +: I think MOH need to do a swap test on all the people in the restaurant, just to be safe..

[1:32 pm, 27/11/2020] +: I think article says that, I briefly glance through last night as my bed time story

[1:32 pm, 27/11/2020] +: You never pay attenshun hor

[1:32 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Just my opinion

[1:32 pm, 27/11/2020] +: I guess it’s from the ship as well

[1:33 pm, 27/11/2020] +: He works for some Maritime Services

[1:33 pm, 27/11/2020] +: He is a black sheep in the community

[1:35 pm, 27/11/2020] +: If that’s the case maybe those who boarded the ship should be tested

[1:36 pm, 27/11/2020] +: While we do not know the type of ship he work with, I am pretty sure that the virus can hide and thrive in the air circulation ducts and perhaps he got it from there

[1:36 pm, 27/11/2020] +: That is why, personal hygiene is important, same goes for mask

[1:37 pm, 27/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/temasek-foundation-returns-with-third-mask-distribution-exercise-from-nov-30

[2:08 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Shipyards are a hotspots. 

Hope screening of all his contacts at work & quarantine ASAP to prevent cluster is crucial.

[2:08 pm, 27/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

If our government is ready, it will be good to share the vaccination strategy for our population.

Understand that Asia, US and Europe have anchor vaccines agreement with some of the vaccines vendors.

Wonder how ready are we.

[2:09 pm, 27/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/covid-19-vaccine-asia-australia-astrazeneca-pfizer-moderna-13644422

Valli

[2:10 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Masks for all residents, is any effort to distribute this to dormitory workers under way?

[2:10 pm, 27/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Don't know.

[2:12 pm, 27/11/2020] +: I wonder if the penalty will match this, at least: https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/southeast-asia/article/3111541/singaporean-expats-fined-breaching-coronavirus-regulations

[2:14 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Other financial news: https://www.forbes.com/sites/investor/2020/11/26/stock-market-crash-the-end-game-and-down-the-rabbit-hole/

[2:14 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Does Singapore have a plan for this outcome?

[3:01 pm, 27/11/2020] +: https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/27/singapore-arcturus-coronavirus-vaccine-candidate-on-track-for-2021-delivery.html?__source=iosappshare%7Cnet.whatsapp.WhatsApp.ShareExtension

[3:02 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Essential and needy to be given first.

[3:05 pm, 27/11/2020] +: I don't think a monetary penalty scares any one. Many have the attitude of just pay fine lor. I propose jail time. Maybe a one-week jail plus 200 hours of community service for such inconsiderate people. Won't have social gathering will die kind.

[3:07 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Jail time!

[3:24 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Canning works better

[3:29 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Both!

[3:30 pm, 27/11/2020] +: or perhaps the fit and healthy? The vulnerable are more likely to have serious side effects on a vaccine that is still quite new. I'm not an anti-vaxxer and strongly believe vaccines are good. Equally, this has been expedited and elderly/sick less 'tested'.

[3:32 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Perhaps - but $3,000 per person is no small number. $15,000 for a family of 5 is a very expensive meal out....

[3:32 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Government has current expertise on the panel looking into appropriate release.

[3:32 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Ouch... But if not pain no one scare... someone have to set an example

[3:33 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Yes, I'd be happy to trust they are doing this properly.

[3:33 pm, 27/11/2020] +: And the restaurant should be penalised for allowing it - that's my view.

[3:34 pm, 27/11/2020] +: They must have seen mingling between tables and did nothing.

REACH

[3:38 pm, 27/11/2020] +: 4 new COVID-19 infections in Singapore, all imported

Singapore reported four new COVID-19 cases as of noon on Friday (Nov 27), said the Ministry of Health (MOH) said in its preliminary daily update.

All the new cases were imported and placed on stay-home notice upon arrival in Singapore.

More details will be provided on Friday night, said the health ministry. 

More: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-singapore-new-cases-nov-27-imported-community-moh-13649654

[3:40 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Bear in mind,  GKY said not the entire population will be innoculated.

[3:58 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Perhaps it should be raised to $5,000 per violation per person plus jail time, plus community service. I am also for shaming. I know it's mean and I know that's not what we as a society should do. But that's what we need to do if people can't follow simple instructions and choose to violate rules.

[4:00 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Agree that the restaurant needs to be held accountable too

[4:08 pm, 27/11/2020] +: We have to consider that no one will go and see doctor or declare anything in the future if one becomes symptomatic. Contact tracing will be more difficult then.

[4:10 pm, 27/11/2020] +: If community service, can leave out canning.

[4:11 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Interesting point. If the penalties are very severe, then no one will get tested if they recently were in violation.

[4:13 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Again?!

[4:19 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Then don't violate in the first place! Take the example of trafficking in of drugs. Would you do it knowing there's the death penalty? Perhaps there are some who would but many would think twice. Social gatherings are not a necessity.

[4:19 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Restaurant don’t really have a choice... if you do business you will know... no choice...

[4:20 pm, 27/11/2020] +: not true bro

[4:20 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Just sad that people like to bulldoze their way knowingly make the choice.

[4:20 pm, 27/11/2020] +: I don't think it's a matter of whether they have a choice or not. They could be more firm in enforcing.

[4:20 pm, 27/11/2020] +: they will reject customers

[4:20 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Reject and reject customers.

[4:20 pm, 27/11/2020] +: That's why government covers the medical expenses. To encourage more people to seek treatment early hence early detection and early isolation.

[4:21 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Sure, the customers will go on to social media and cry father cry mother. But would they dare if penalties are severe and restaurant can then say these people violated the rules? So again, if you get monkeys that don't follow rules, then they need to be put in cages.

[4:21 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Reject and eject customers.

[4:23 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Black sheep amongst customers and f and b operators

[4:24 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Then the sheep need to be caged too.

[4:24 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Yes!

[4:27 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Authorities are not doing enough. Prevention is better than cure. Go around to the shopping malls and restaurants, you will see that there's no pandemic in these places. Shopping malls and restaurants are already in Phase 5 when the rest of Singapore is in Phase 2.

[4:27 pm, 27/11/2020] +: If the waiters and waitress do this, then the boss may do the same to them.

[4:27 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Do we want to wait until there's another outbreak before tightening and enforcing the rules again?

[4:27 pm, 27/11/2020] +: This is true story. Hooters will not let a group of more than 5 sit side by side on tables across the aisle. They will put one of them really far away.

[4:28 pm, 27/11/2020] +: So yes, they can enforce or reject.

[4:28 pm, 27/11/2020] +: The waiters and waitresses can whistleblow.

[4:28 pm, 27/11/2020] +: It's a whole of society approach. People still don't understand.

[4:29 pm, 27/11/2020] +: If restaurant bosses fire a waiter or waitress for this, then the bosses really need to look at themselves and ask what kind of example they are setting.

[4:30 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Many are part timers. So the boss just don't roster that staff back unless really no one to cover lor

[4:31 pm, 27/11/2020] +: There are many restaurants. ¶«¼ׂ²»´ע£¬´ע־ק¼ׂ.

[4:33 pm, 27/11/2020] +: However I do know of many fearless staff who will tell the customers out front upon arrival that strictly no mingling with  or befriending other customers otherwise they will have to leave the premise. But they collect payment prior the meal, just in case

[4:33 pm, 27/11/2020] +: They are just doing what they are supposed to do.

[4:34 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Back to this article, I felt that it will be better if Gov kick off the relaxation of travel rules tgt with Phase 3. I agree to the part on managing risks, but the part on how to ensure everyone is on the same page is left to be desired. Everyone has their interpretation of the rules. The recent community case where 1 person was infected because he decided to have a meal with 14 is a good example of people bending the rules to their discretion. I dun blame him, as the restrictions were implemented since Mar, I had given my prediction that with festivities nearing, this person will not be the last person to flout the restrictions. How are we going to manage the risks remain as a challenge for the gov, especially when we are expecting to go into phase 3 soon.

[4:34 pm, 27/11/2020] +: The duty manager sets the atmosphere

[4:43 pm, 27/11/2020] +: 😨😱😂🤣😅

[4:45 pm, 27/11/2020] +: There was a recent incident whereby staff gathered at the front entrance of a pub to delay a group of sda making spot check on the f and b outlet while the large group of patrons made a emergency exit via the back!

[4:48 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Prevention is better than punishment.  Perhaps all seated restaurant duty managers need to have "license" of awareness.  Also FAQ so that they are educated to manage the owners, staff and customers.

[4:50 pm, 27/11/2020] +: It should be Education is better than punishment. But in these cases, education has obviously failed. Some people are just not academic and can't learn.

[4:50 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Wahaha

[4:52 pm, 27/11/2020] +: aiyoh, be thankful if u are born with better brains.  help people dont trash people.

[4:53 pm, 27/11/2020] +: People don't have a choice about getting infected. If they breach regulations and then get symptoms they won't get tested for fear of being caught, just as they won't deal drugs for fear if being caught.

[4:53 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Because?

[4:54 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Not trashing lah. Everyone has different learning styles. So are auditory (tell them and they listen), some are not.

[4:54 pm, 27/11/2020] +: So they should call authorities if customers are breaching sd rules.

[4:55 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Yes, but if people know they broke SD rules they won't get tested.

[4:56 pm, 27/11/2020] +: i think so too

[4:56 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Waiters should report breaches to the boss and its the boss job to deal with customers. Shouldn't put the waiter in that position.

[4:57 pm, 27/11/2020] +: If the boss gets penalised for not reporting SD breach they will soon take responsibility.

[4:57 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Both are in on the ruse

[4:58 pm, 27/11/2020] +: If restaurant has to close due to breach , then the waiter can't work either. Its in the boss and waiters interest to report the breach and avoid closure

[4:59 pm, 27/11/2020] +: 🤷‍♀️

[5:00 pm, 27/11/2020] +: There are a lot of people with the "Aiyah never mind one lah" attitude.

Group bigger than 5: "Aiyah never mind lah, same family what."

Child is sick and placed on SHN: "Aiyah never mind lah, just a child"

Not being particular about masks: "Aiyah never mind lah, you're not sick right? I'm also not sick".

Like macham coronavirus will have the sense to say "Aiyah never mind lah, I won't whack this one". 🙄

[5:02 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Agree!

[5:11 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Agree on this

[5:43 pm, 27/11/2020] +: No year-end bonus for civil servants; 2,400 lower-wage staff to get $1,200 one-time payment

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/no-year-end-bonus-for-civil-servants-2400-lower-wage-staff-to-get-1200-one-time-payment

[5:43 pm, 27/11/2020] +: No salary cut is considered good enough already

[5:44 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Yes

[5:48 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Someone forwarded this to me. Good for info!

[5:49 pm, 27/11/2020] +: I have mine. Pink color.

[5:50 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Out of so many color they choose pink.

[5:50 pm, 27/11/2020] +: 🙈

[5:50 pm, 27/11/2020] +: 😍

REACH

[6:26 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Dear Contributors,

We will be extending the chat to 10pm today.

Thank you

[6:27 pm, 27/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Below is a backup plan in case the current tourism vouchers redemption run into problems.

If everything run well from 1 Dec 2020, then no need to activate this backup plan written on 25 Nov 2020:-

Actually, STB have a better and more cost effective way to distribute the tourism voucher.

Just provide physical voucher to individuals.

Let individual decide on their own to visit the tourist spots they like by using the voucher like cash.

Then it will dispense with all the complications.

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Don't need to throw tender to award to 5 vendor package.

Don't need to visit website.

Speed up the process and complications.

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People just use their IC to collect the physical voucher in the CC.

Then people just visit any sites they like.

Objective achieved.

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If don't want the tourism voucher to be abused, print the name of each individual onto the voucher.

Tourist spots just check the name in the voucher against the IC during entry.

Problem solved.

No complications.

People happy.

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If people find it a pain navigating the 5 tenderer website - this method of voucher redemption is easier and idiot-proof.

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The tourism voucher is only $100.

The current complicated way of redeeming the voucher far exceeded the worth of spending the time and effort needed to distribute, navigate, or deploy staff to redeem the voucher.

Desmond Koh

[6:33 pm, 27/11/2020] +: My BFF said, sounds like a good idea!

BUT

REACH

[6:36 pm, 27/11/2020] +: https://www.facebook.com/MNDsingapore/posts/4094607327233959

[6:36 pm, 27/11/2020] +: https://www.facebook.com/MOFsg/posts/3870599569630949

[6:38 pm, 27/11/2020] +: https://www.hdb.gov.sg/cs/infoweb/about-us/news-and-publications/press-releases/27112020-CPF-Interest-Rates-from-1Jan2021-to-31Mar2021

[6:39 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Im glad that more govt sector media / publicity dept is adopting memes to reach out to younger generations

Desmond Koh

[6:39 pm, 27/11/2020] +: 1. No tender? Who print voucher, appear magically?

2. Use vouchers as cash, how to validate? The validation systems don need tender? 

3. Vouchers collection with names/IC.. those don wan how? Print on the spots, long queue how? 

4. Manpower how?

 There are a lot of unanswered questions based on your proposal,  all these efforts  will cost even more online...

Berny

[6:40 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Actually on item 3, SAFRA did that few years back, the NS appreciation voucher, not sure if anyone remembers

Desmond Koh

[6:40 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Ya but that’s like 1 year planning, not 3 mths 😅

Berny

[6:41 pm, 27/11/2020] +: With PDPA enforced, having name and NRIC on them is a tricky thing to have.

On that note, mine got stolen by a colleague (i know but didnt report). He managed to use them all without my verification

Blue and White Flag Guy

[6:41 pm, 27/11/2020] +: inserts HAIYA sticker

[6:42 pm, 27/11/2020] +: I remember using mine wasn't so easy, have to present 11B or something 😂

Berny

[6:42 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Need present that or ic

Blue and White Flag Guy

[6:42 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Then how come your one tio gunakan

Berny

[6:42 pm, 27/11/2020] +: But the guy who stole it didnt need to present my ic

Caleb

[6:43 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Me

Berny

[6:43 pm, 27/11/2020] +: I kept mine in office drawer, on leave come back all missing

Blue and White Flag Guy

[6:43 pm, 27/11/2020] +: WALAO THIS TYPE OF PEOPLE ALSO EXIST

Berny

[6:43 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Office only 3 person, including me

[6:43 pm, 27/11/2020] +: But hey, its my fault so Im not complaining

Dan

[6:44 pm, 27/11/2020] +: I would like to think the civil servants sacrifice their bonus to give us the $100 tourism voucher. So thanks Megan.

Berny

[6:44 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Point is: if it is "cash voucher", it can easily be transferred to others, or even sold

Blue and White Flag Guy

[6:45 pm, 27/11/2020] +: My camp had a case, some bodoh dk how much money kena curi, OC tell all the branches assemble at foyer just because of some joker

Rama

[6:46 pm, 27/11/2020] +: 🤙👍👌🙏🤣😂😅

Berny

[6:53 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Personal opinion ah, take it with a scoop of salt, singpass is still the best and secured way for such stuff

[6:54 pm, 27/11/2020] +: 1. No need print, go green and save $$

2. Even if i pass you my singpass to redeem, you still need my otp, making transfer a bit more inconvenient and lesser dispute on stolen credits

Blue and White Flag Guy

[6:55 pm, 27/11/2020] +: But then comes the problem of exclusion for those without access to digital services and for that, I'd like to hear if the service is just as accessible offline as it is online as we cannot go online completely, no country or city in this world can because some people will end up being marginalised

Berny

[6:57 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Lastly, instead of whining that system is badly implemented, why not do something practical about it instead of giving feedbacks to improve them online?

Eg. 1st mask collection (the 4 or 5 per house hold). It was pretty badly done imho, but I no blame PA, it was dropped from the sky and they dont have much reaction time to turn around, instead of giving feedback at home, I went down to help distribute and at the same time, work with them to smoothen the process

Rama

[6:57 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Agree

Blue and White Flag Guy

[6:58 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Hanor hanor

Berny

[6:59 pm, 27/11/2020] +: To prove that my claim is a valid one, I can give you the name of the CC that i helped out with, if required, i went down daily until my wife came back and was SHN, then i stopped helping

Blue and White Flag Guy

[7:00 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Aiya no need lah if someone really need evidence they're probably jealous of what you did that they didn't think of 😊

[7:01 pm, 27/11/2020] +: By doing so, I had also infringed (not sure if this is the right word to use, I just want to use complex word to make my command on english sounds photosynthesis) the TOR of releasing my personal info

[7:02 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Aiyo wayang ah you 😂

[7:02 pm, 27/11/2020] +: But thats a real example la

[7:02 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Oh and look!

[7:03 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Its 1903hrs

[7:03 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Wheres the gatekeeper?

[7:03 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Extended la

[7:03 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Got ah?

[7:03 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Later OG Megan come whack you 😂

[7:03 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Is this even allowed?? Hmm..

[7:03 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Neh you see 👀

[7:03 pm, 27/11/2020] +: It is

[7:03 pm, 27/11/2020] +: LOL

[7:04 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Guideline says must cover face and nose, touch cheek and chin

[7:04 pm, 27/11/2020] +: All checked, good to go

[7:04 pm, 27/11/2020] +: 🤣🤣🤣full face mask?

[7:04 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Later another Nimama case in the making lol

[7:04 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Okay noted @Berny

[7:04 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Good

[7:04 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Its friday! Take it easy man

[7:05 pm, 27/11/2020] +: At least he got put in effort to draw a face

[7:05 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Maybe he got real mask underneath?

[7:07 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Can’t see

[7:07 pm, 27/11/2020] +: If the train isn't crowded I'm sure people will still repel from him lol

[7:08 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Might have la, if not how he got into the train?

[7:08 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Im sure smrt staff or security will stop him

[7:11 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Hello hello not SMRT staff :3

[7:17 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Cheepskate

[7:23 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Exactly! :3

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[7:32 pm, 27/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

(1) The following is my suggestions to STB how to execute the backup plan - to redeem the tourism voucher if there are problem executing the backup plan :-

a. Call tender to print 2.5 million - a pack of $10 tourism voucher (specs :- to print name of individuals - name to be provided by STB) - Open tender and close by 2 weeks.

b. 1 week to do evaluation and 1 week to award- award to lowest price tenderer.

(Total :- 4 weeks)

c. 1 month for succesful tenderer to print the voucher and deliver to STB.

(Total :- 1 month)

Total time = 4 weeks + 1 month = 2 month.

(I have throw about 10 tenders - in one of my projects - and I complete the above within 2 months).

(2) CC will dispense the tourism vouchers with name check against based on IC produced. This is to ensure that the right person will be issued with the tourism voucher with their names on it.

(3) Only authorised tourist spots operator can accept the tourism vouchers.

Eg. If I visit the zoo :-

Zoo operator must check my name on the voucher against my IC before allowing me to enter the zoo. If my name in the tourism voucher and my IC don't tally, I will be refused entry.

(4) Advantages of using this approach to redeem toursim vouchers :-

a. Elderly, IT illiterate, many tourist spot operators and anyone know how to use the tourism vouchers - without having the pain to surf the net, try to redeem the voucher online and discover that some tourist spots they want to visit are not on the web or they can't find the place they want --- because it is too painful to surf so many websites.

b. Those who have vouchers at hand will use it - so as not to waste it.

c. Unused vouchers will expire on expiry date, or people can return unused vouchers to CC.

d. The outcome of meeting the STB objectives of helping tourism business -- will be much better --- because public will more likely to use the vouchers they possess.

e. Online redemption of vouchers - will more likely to discourage many not to use it --- and fail to achieve the objectives of helping the tourism business - as many people find it too difficult a task to redeem it online.

f. Quoting the Public Sector outcome ----- the outcome will be better if use physical tourism voucher.

Berny

[7:41 pm, 27/11/2020] +: I havent read everything, but have you called for open tender before?

[7:42 pm, 27/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Yes.

Countless times.

Blue and White Flag Guy

[7:42 pm, 27/11/2020] +: 

Eh lai lai

Open up your mind and see like me 

Open up your plans and damn you're free

Desmond Koh

[7:42 pm, 27/11/2020] +: 1a,b- 2.5mil vouchers, wastage how? tax payer $$ lei... you got work in govt and called for open tender before or not?

the online version is a per you said 2 weeks closes..

1c - humble brag, lai share the scope, context, award amount, please.

2 - CC ah, who disburse it? temp staff? the CDs/CMs?? or GRLs? 

3 - u didnt answer how the operators validated the vouchers, so many fraud cases

4 - as STB said, they setting up so no one is left behind!

Berny

[7:43 pm, 27/11/2020] +: 1. Fast, good, cheap. Pick any 2 only.

2. Open tender is a very tedious process, for a 2 week period to print and deliver 2.5million pieces within a short period of time wont be cheap

Alvin

[7:43 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Hard copy vouchers open up counterfeit

Berny

[7:43 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Item 2 I can answer: GCD sit there and distribute

Alvin

[7:43 pm, 27/11/2020] +: And other cans of worms

Berny

[7:44 pm, 27/11/2020] +: And fraud, like my ns voucher case

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[7:45 pm, 27/11/2020] +: haha CDs always follow MPs de la.. so much of PA being a Statboard...

[7:45 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Bo, is gcd, 1 lvl above cd

[7:46 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Now is the best time for them to walk the talk, invert and enlarge the triangle

[7:46 pm, 27/11/2020] +: haha GCD have meh?

[7:46 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Have

[7:46 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Group CD

[7:46 pm, 27/11/2020] +: 1 guy to direct all the cds in the grc

[7:46 pm, 27/11/2020] +: erm no no i meant

[7:47 pm, 27/11/2020] +: usually if at CC level , the CD will do the job together with CMs ma

[7:47 pm, 27/11/2020] +: GCD only co-ordinate it

[7:47 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Right

[7:48 pm, 27/11/2020] +: End of yhe day it spirals downwards

[7:48 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Cd push to dvd and cm take charge assisted by cme

[7:48 pm, 27/11/2020] +: And temp staff front the counter

[7:49 pm, 27/11/2020] +: thats when i'm young when i doing my NYAA, helping grassroot la, maybe it changed liao.. been like 15 years ago haha

[7:50 pm, 27/11/2020] +: So many GRL here arh 😆

[7:50 pm, 27/11/2020] +: no politics, just my passing comments

[7:51 pm, 27/11/2020] +: when i was young haha

[7:51 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Some CMs really cannot make it lol

[7:51 pm, 27/11/2020] +: now is just a working level haha

[7:51 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Same same

[7:51 pm, 27/11/2020] +: 草根王

[7:52 pm, 27/11/2020] +: But do spare a thought for non GRL here lol don’t think they know what we talking

[7:53 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Doesn't matter lah, as long as you guys on the same frequency and isn't one who spams stuff senselessly you can churn out all your terms lol I don't mind 

It's always good to see how abbreviations become a language of their own, I know this because I can communicate in PT language with my friends and everyone else is like apa ini so I fully understand 😉

[7:54 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Actually we r just volunteering our time I. Exchange of CIP points haha

GRL usually got the Pxx or bxx, behind their name de 😂

[7:54 pm, 27/11/2020] +: My time we don’t use short forms... lol but can understand when they put CC in to context 🤣

[7:55 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Lol I don’t need CIP... exceed 400 hours what is CIP i can even issue and sign that time

[7:55 pm, 27/11/2020] +: 🤣🤣🤣 those were the days...

[7:55 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Haha I need 1k hours

[7:56 pm, 27/11/2020] +: So I can shake hand with Mr Nathan 😛

[7:56 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Lazy to write the book... NYAA just troublesome.. I more into operations do projects and events for youth

[7:57 pm, 27/11/2020] +: More into the organizing and see those kids enjoy themselves

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Alvin

[7:59 pm, 27/11/2020] +: And I tot we have PDPA not suppose to show IC to companies anymore

Berny

[7:59 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Show can, photocopy cannot

Alvin

[7:59 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Wait show IC already I receive spam to my mailing address etc ppl will complain

Berny

[8:00 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Show to verify is ok

Blue and White Flag Guy

[8:00 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Hahaha I cannot imagine if my spam inbox was a physical one 😆

[8:00 pm, 27/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

IC are produced in malls and point of entry to do SafeEntry.

Alvin

[8:00 pm, 27/11/2020] +: I don’t take out my IC at all

[8:01 pm, 27/11/2020] +: I use SafeEntry app

[8:01 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Why should I produce my IC when I can just use SingPass?

Berny

[8:01 pm, 27/11/2020] +: I use tt app

Alvin

[8:01 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Also can

Berny

[8:01 pm, 27/11/2020] +: Singpass app also can

Boon

[8:12 pm, 27/11/2020] +: 😂completely lost by the acronyms

[8:13 pm, 27/11/2020] +: But sounds really interesting 😆

REACH 169 - Plan on how to use Tourism vouchers (SK)

25 Nov 2020 (11am - 7pm)

REACH

[11:08 am, 25/11/2020] +: Megan 😊

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REACH

[11:11 am, 25/11/2020] +: 📢 Topic 📢 

All Singaporeans aged 18 and above will receive S$100 worth of SingapoRediscovers vouchers, which can be used for staycations, attraction tickets and tours. 

The vouchers can be redeemed online through five authorised booking partners from Dec 1, with physical counters to be set up across the island to help those in need of assistance. 

💬 How are you planning to use your SingaporeRediscovers vouchers? 

Eligible products will be marked on the booking platforms with the SingapoRediscovers Vouchers icon, STB said on Monday.  

After selecting a product, users will have the option of using the vouchers – which come in denominations of $10 – at the check-out page.  

All eligible Singapore citizens will receive a letter by Dec 1 with information about the redemption process. 

👉 https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/consumer/sporeans-can-redeem-100-singaporediscovers-vouchers-from-dec-1-via-booking 

👉 https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/consumer/faq-who-will-get-singaporediscovers-vouchers-and-what-can-you-do-with-them

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Berny

[11:14 am, 25/11/2020] +: I know it is a waste of resources, but can a simple letter be sent to all eligible users to briefly tell them how and where to use?

[11:15 am, 25/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Many people find the redemption process on tourism voucher too complicated.

I go through the few websites and also got lost how to book and choose which tourist spots to go and how to do redemption.

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/singapore-consumers-express-concern-over-complicated-tourist-voucher-redemption-process

[11:16 am, 25/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

My close friend comments:-

It would be very difficult for the digital drop out group

Rama

[11:16 am, 25/11/2020] +: Seems not too user friendly!?

[11:17 am, 25/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

I also find it difficult and still have not figured out how to redeem.

Those who are not familiar with internet even worst.

It may end up many will not redeem.

Blue and White Flag Guy

[11:17 am, 25/11/2020] +: Seriously stop ranting about those not included because it's an online thing

Berny

[11:22 am, 25/11/2020] +: Another alternative that I can think of to assist eligible users better, is to have a nice booth with tablet for the users to redeem their vouchers on the spot (could have more cost savings compared to sending out snail mail to all)

Desmond Koh

[11:27 am, 25/11/2020] +: 1 .MAS is regulators not business development... should EDB or ESG or even multi-agencies approach..

2. not MCI, but IMDA, and they are already doing it the SG Digital thingy.

3. MND is a ministry, BCA should be the one to help doing the engagement.. but in terms of $, work pass etc, is a multi-agencies approach..

4. as Kelvin said, no more AVA, F&B got HDB, SFA, STB & NEA, so still multi-agencies approach..

5. STB already doing it.. you might not know, STB's objective is Passion Made Possible and Quality Tourism.

i know you are quoting an example, but need to be realistic on the example :)

Caleb

[11:28 am, 25/11/2020] +: I think will send by 1 Sec.

[11:28 am, 25/11/2020] +: Dec

Desmond Koh

[11:29 am, 25/11/2020] +: https://www.facebook.com/STBsingapore/posts/2151462298317486

i saw this and got very very angry!!

This shows how poorly STB plan out by treating this as yet another tender processes, without thinking the ground sentiments.

A simple online search shows that most partners are not a local company🤔

trip.com - China

Klook - Hong-Kong, china

Traveloka - Indonesia

Changi Recommends - SG

GlobalTix - SG

Why are we paying foreign company to manage our rediscover vouchers? 

Its common knowledge that middleman have to take a cut!!!

Blue and White Flag Guy

[11:30 am, 25/11/2020] +: Hahaha this one you bring up like recently only and today is topic day 😆

Desmond Koh

[11:31 am, 25/11/2020] +: lol

[11:31 am, 25/11/2020] +: DPM Ah Heng said:

“Through the SingapoRediscovers vouchers, we hope to rally Singaporeans to enjoy and appreciate what we have in Singapore, while supporting our tourism sector during this challenging time,” he said. 

 Via: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/singaporeans-to-get-320-million-in-tourism-vouchers-to-boost-sector-says-heng-swee-keat

Caleb

[11:33 am, 25/11/2020] +: Not much local companies does these bah

Blue and White Flag Guy

[11:33 am, 25/11/2020] +: But I agree with the article guy comment on integrating everything into a STB platform

Alvin

[11:35 am, 25/11/2020] +: 🤭

REACH

[11:36 am, 25/11/2020] +: Last COVID-19 cluster closes; no active cluster in Singapore for the first time since pandemic began

The last COVID-19 cluster in a migrant worker dormitory has closed, meaning there are no active clusters in Singapore since the pandemic began.

The Ministry of Health (MOH) announced the closure of the cluster at Cassia @ Penjuru dormitory on Tuesday (Nov 24), after 28 consecutive days with no new infection linked to it.

"With the closure of this cluster, there are no active COVID-19 clusters for the first time since Feb 3, 2020," said MOH on Tuesday.

More:

- https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/last-covid-19-cluster-closes-singapore-no-active-clusters-13630980

- https://www.moh.gov.sg/news-highlights/details/no-new-cases-of-locally-transmitted-covid-19-infection-24Nov-Updated

Rama

[11:37 am, 25/11/2020] +: Government is indifferent to the problem! Just get going without proper understanding!

Phyllis

[11:37 am, 25/11/2020] +: Rejoice rejoice!

Caleb

[11:37 am, 25/11/2020] +: As it's inbound travel

Desmond Koh

[11:42 am, 25/11/2020] +: after complaining, i realised, there's only 3 mths and the 5 selected agencies is awarded via open tender..

[11:42 am, 25/11/2020] +: something is wrong with the Klook tender price haha

[11:43 am, 25/11/2020] +: u can see all the tender pricing online via https://www.gebiz.gov.sg

Blue and White Flag Guy

[11:43 am, 25/11/2020] +: Changi also $1

Desmond Koh

[11:45 am, 25/11/2020] +: i think changi is really doing for free! just getting the admin fees from hotels lor

[11:45 am, 25/11/2020] +: klook, sneaky HK guy 😓

Blue and White Flag Guy

[11:45 am, 25/11/2020] +: Oh cuz alternate!

Ken

[11:46 am, 25/11/2020] +: Don’t understand

Desmond Koh

[11:47 am, 25/11/2020] +: main bid, Klook showing $1, like mak chaim doing CSR

[11:47 am, 25/11/2020] +: but in alternate bid, they putting cost inside..

Ken

[11:48 am, 25/11/2020] +: Oh... I get you now... oh well alternative ways to get attention. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Desmond Koh

[11:48 am, 25/11/2020] +: thats why i said sneaky HK guys!!

[11:48 am, 25/11/2020] +: Klook from Hong Kong BTW

Alvin

[11:54 am, 25/11/2020] +: i think the most important thing is for the vouchers to be spent on local companies

Desmond Koh

[11:54 am, 25/11/2020] +: We need end of the day remember, on 1st Dec when we redeem the vouchers, remember many of the STB ppl probably worked blood sweat tears and likely wanna throw letter to give us the $100 😓

rant is rant but need to appreciate them end of the day

Caleb

[11:55 am, 25/11/2020] +: 👍

Alvin

[11:55 am, 25/11/2020] +: 💬 How are you planning to use your SingaporeRediscovers vouchers? 

There is going to be a xiasuay rush for using the vouchers in Dec 2020. Will avoid it and probably utilize it next year.

Maybe will use in May or Jun 2021. Hopefully will be less crowd then.

Caleb

[11:56 am, 25/11/2020] +: Ya. Me too?

Berny

[0:02 pm, 25/11/2020] +: I plan to use it during off peak hours:

1. Cheaper rates.

2. No crowd lesser covid chance

Alvin

[0:04 pm, 25/11/2020] +: This ☝🏻

[0:04 pm, 25/11/2020] +: I under parents want to use it during sch hols but the crowds in shopping malls recently is crowded af

Anne

[0:18 pm, 25/11/2020] +: They normally go to CC to ask for help. CC staff will help them on the spot.

[0:27 pm, 25/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

To simplify the redemption process, ideally:-

1 central website showing 5 vendor package :-

Each vendor will list the tourist spots and their f&b, hotel etc

Eg. I want to go sentosa and marina garden by the bay.I will look at the 5 vendor package that offer the 2 tourist spots via singpass.

Eg. Vendor A offer sentosa, then I click on sentosa to redeem say $30 for entry into the various attractions.

Then I click $10 for a food outlets.

Then when I am done I click redeem button.

Next I go to vendor C that offer garden by the bay.

I tick this item $15 for entry fee.

Then I click a restaurant $50 for dinner.

Then I click redeem.

The above suggestions will greatly simplifies the redemption process.

Blue and White Flag Guy

[0:33 pm, 25/11/2020] +: I don't even plan to use it lol just stay home and sleep lah sial rather than kena infected for no reason because of some unnecessary hype again 😂

[0:37 pm, 25/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

MacDonald booth online ordering is an example of very easy to use menu driven apps.

If STB can quickly develop such online website for smartphones or laptop access - then redemption will be a breeze.

Desmond Koh

[0:55 pm, 25/11/2020] +: I give u 3 mths to do it, including open tender for an one off event ok?

[0:59 pm, 25/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Why me?

[1:00 pm, 25/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Why not you!

Phyllis

[1:00 pm, 25/11/2020] +: 🛎️🛎️🛎️

Blue and White Flag Guy

[1:00 pm, 25/11/2020] +: I got new sticker

Alvin

[1:01 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Poh Mata liao

Blue and White Flag Guy

[1:01 pm, 25/11/2020] +: I got road sign sticker also

[1:01 pm, 25/11/2020] +: To tell you to

Alvin

[1:01 pm, 25/11/2020] +: 🤭

Desmond Koh

[1:01 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Hahah cos u suggested the stuff like very easy 🙂

[1:02 pm, 25/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

If want to do, do a proper job.

[1:03 pm, 25/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

If not don't do.

Berny

[1:03 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Desmond is right though, if its so easy to do a proper job within a short time frame with limited resources, you do and show them how to do

Desmond Koh

[1:03 pm, 25/11/2020] +: 😅

Blue and White Flag Guy

[1:03 pm, 25/11/2020] +: 说得容易，做得难

[1:03 pm, 25/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Then look like the standard has drop.

Blue and White Flag Guy

[1:04 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Unless you're there to constantly guide them to do whatever it is they do, you can't really do anything about it

Berny

[1:04 pm, 25/11/2020] +: This one is an adhoc emergency project leh

[1:04 pm, 25/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Because the people employ has low standard.

Alvin

[1:04 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Lol

Berny

[1:04 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Its not some planned event

Blue and White Flag Guy

[1:04 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Hanor

Berny

[1:04 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Its not like gst voucher or u save

Phyllis

[1:05 pm, 25/11/2020] +: HOR.

[1:05 pm, 25/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

And finding excuse for low standard.

Alvin

[1:05 pm, 25/11/2020] +: My close friend comment: empty vessels make the most noise

Blue and White Flag Guy

[1:05 pm, 25/11/2020] +: r00d hor

Berny

[1:05 pm, 25/11/2020] +: U do and show lor

Blue and White Flag Guy

[1:05 pm, 25/11/2020] +: HAHAHAHA

[1:05 pm, 25/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Then why need people to feedback.

Alvin

[1:05 pm, 25/11/2020] +: He say it’s easier to talk than action

Berny

[1:06 pm, 25/11/2020] +: I believe the goal is to save jobs now, not to give incentives

[1:06 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Feedback is ok and good, I agree

Alvin

[1:06 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Not enough of credit given to people doing their jobs right now

[1:06 pm, 25/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Many people find the redemption process on tourism voucher too complicated.

I go through the few websites and also got lost how to book and choose which tourist spots to go and how to do redemption.

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/singapore-consumers-express-concern-over-complicated-tourist-voucher-redemption-process

Berny

[1:06 pm, 25/11/2020] +: But this sentence isnt

[1:06 pm, 25/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Look at the public feedback.

Rama

[1:07 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Is the relevant authorities listening!?

Blue and White Flag Guy

[1:07 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Is like if train breakdown, everyone got their own comments but which ones are truly useful??

[1:07 pm, 25/11/2020] +: If you really got concrete counterproposal, let the respective party know

Alvin

[1:09 pm, 25/11/2020] +: But easy to criticize their process when it’s harder to come out with better plan.

Blue and White Flag Guy

[1:09 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Ya exactly 

Complain doesn't help if you don't come up with better alternative or even better, guide them along the process

[1:09 pm, 25/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

To simplify the redemption process, ideally:-

1 central website showing 5 vendor package :-

Each vendor will list the tourist spots and their f&b, hotel etc

Eg. I want to go sentosa and marina garden by the bay.

I will look at the 5 vendor package that offer the 2 tourist spots via singpass.

Eg. Vendor A offer sentosa, then I click on sentosa to redeem say $30 for entry into the various attractions.

Then I click $10 for a food outlets.

Then when I am done I click redeem button.

Next I go to vendor C that offer garden by the bay.

I tick this item $15 for entry fee.

Then I click a restaurant $50 for dinner.

Then I click redeem.

The above suggestions will greatly simplifies the redemption process.

Desmond Koh

[1:10 pm, 25/11/2020] +: This is offensive to all the 146k public officers..

[1:10 pm, 25/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Is this suggestion or complain?

Caleb

[1:10 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Abit hard to change the process now

[1:10 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Now is how to educate for all to know how to redeem

Blue and White Flag Guy

[1:10 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Ya ah learn to adapt

Caleb

[1:10 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Gov, ur info better be on website.

Berny

[1:11 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Like send snail mail, or have ipad booth on site

[1:11 pm, 25/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Look at news report and ask yourself.

Caleb

[1:11 pm, 25/11/2020] +: And not from newspaper website.

Blue and White Flag Guy

[1:11 pm, 25/11/2020] +: If cannot change whole thing, try change what can be changed rather than dwelling on the stuff that can't be changed anymore

REACH

[1:11 pm, 25/11/2020] +: PSLE results: 98.4% of students can progress to secondary school

For the fifth consecutive year, 98.4 per cent of Primary 6 students who sat for the Primary School Leaving Examination (PSLE) made it to secondary school.

A total of 39,995 candidates sat for the PSLE this year, of which 39,361 students were assessed suitable to progress to secondary school, the Ministry of Education (MOE) and Singapore Examinations and Assessment Board (SEAB) said in a press release on Wednesday (Nov 25).

More: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/psle-results-scores-primary-secondary-school-moe-seab-13635194

Alvin

[1:11 pm, 25/11/2020] +: There is not unifying platform for this and STB gave their justification if I recall correctly

Berny

[1:12 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Reach better pull up your socks hor, your standard has dropped

Desmond Koh

[1:12 pm, 25/11/2020] +: 💯

Blue and White Flag Guy

[1:13 pm, 25/11/2020] +: I think while REACH's function is to collate feedback, we the citizens pledge ourselves as one united people must know our inlets and outlets too

Berny

[1:16 pm, 25/11/2020] +: I think there are more considerations during the planning stage la, just that certain stuff are harder to qualify

[1:16 pm, 25/11/2020] +: I honestly dont think govt sector will do things hastily without considering about the potential or future repercussions.

[1:17 pm, 25/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

If a public officer do a lousy job and do soul searching - and yet try to find excuses to justify his work -. Then  I question has the standard drop?

Desmond Koh

[1:17 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Don say that, later he will said TT is a rush work lol

[1:18 pm, 25/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

This is very serious - as our civil service is of very high standard!

Berny

[1:18 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Keyword is "a", we cannot throw a sweeping statement because of that few bad apples

[1:18 pm, 25/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Agree. 

I feel that there are some bad apples around

Berny

[1:18 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Look at how many bust ICA made to stop smuggles, look at our healthcare workers working round the clock

Desmond Koh

[1:19 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Sorry This is a comment not a question

Berny

[1:19 pm, 25/11/2020] +: To say standard drop is a very unfair statement

[1:19 pm, 25/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Based on all the statement make here, it give the impression.

Berny

[1:20 pm, 25/11/2020] +: So healthcare should worker harder

[1:20 pm, 25/11/2020] +: And ica should bust more smuggle cases?

[1:20 pm, 25/11/2020] +: If you say STB standard drop, yes, I may agree that it is fair

[1:21 pm, 25/11/2020] +: But a sweeping statement on all public servant is just unfair and uncalled for

Blue and White Flag Guy

[1:21 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Won't be surprised lol

Berny

[1:22 pm, 25/11/2020] +: But it is a rush work isnt it? 😬

[1:22 pm, 25/11/2020] +: At least theres a goal, and they tried their best to work towards it

Blue and White Flag Guy

[1:22 pm, 25/11/2020] +: If really so rush will we dare to let the world use it?

[1:23 pm, 25/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

I hold very high regard for our civil service and our Ministers.

But if there are people who justify poor jobs for public service, then we will need to raise this to the attention to COPS and the Ministers.

Berny

[1:23 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Please do

[1:23 pm, 25/11/2020] +: You need the minister's email?

Desmond Koh

[1:29 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Go to COPS first 😀

Council Of Perm Sec

[1:30 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Btw civil service is inside public services 🙂

[1:30 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Can also submit pre-cab papers too 😇

REACH

[2:08 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Singapore needs to manage risks, not eliminate them, in reopening for travel: Chan Chun Sing

Singapore needs to manage the risks – not eliminate them entirely – as the country prepares to reopen for travel, Minister for Trade and Industry Chan Chun Sing said on Wednesday (Nov 25).

"Shutting ourselves off from the world is not an option," Mr Chan said in a speech at the TravelRevive trade show. "Singapore is unable to tap on a large local population or domestic travel to sustain our tourism sector." 

More: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-travel-tourism-sector-risk-management-chan-chun-sing-13634832

Blue and White Flag Guy

[2:21 pm, 25/11/2020] +: @Berny snail mail actually come already 

Everyone later go your mailbox see (some might not have cuz I see some places the postman still delivering)

Berny

[2:22 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Mine no reach yet

[2:22 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Only got the free seeds from nparks

Desmond Koh

[2:24 pm, 25/11/2020] +: "Asked why there is no unified booking platform, the spokesman explained that it was because the different booking platforms have different focuses and commercial terms.

Booking sites are expected to promote a diversity of merchants, the tourism board said, adding that listing arrangements will be worked out directly between platforms and merchants."

[2:24 pm, 25/11/2020] +: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/consumer/sporeans-can-redeem-100-singaporediscovers-vouchers-from-dec-1-via-booking

Blue and White Flag Guy

[2:24 pm, 25/11/2020] +: I send a pic of mine

Caleb

[2:26 pm, 25/11/2020] +: think also good, so PR and other ppl can also goto the platform and buy these packages

[2:26 pm, 25/11/2020] +: pay using cash

[2:26 pm, 25/11/2020] +: so in a sense, the zoo all these can use these platforms to advertise

Alvin

[2:26 pm, 25/11/2020] +: I 100% agree with STB

Caleb

[2:27 pm, 25/11/2020] +: for long term investment lor

Alvin

[2:27 pm, 25/11/2020] +: why need to be so draconian and force all merchants onto one platform

[2:27 pm, 25/11/2020] +: like that their offerings, t&c all have to follow

Blue and White Flag Guy

[2:27 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Lai, sorry needed to censor address if not later someone cross the road harass me

Caleb

[2:27 pm, 25/11/2020] +: ya, so merchants can offer in all 5 platforms

Alvin

[2:27 pm, 25/11/2020] +: i prefer to have more own choice which one is best and spend my vouchers there

[2:28 pm, 25/11/2020] +: use bus bang you :3

Kevin

[2:29 pm, 25/11/2020] +65 9236 9570: Why need to put cert there :3

Blue and White Flag Guy

[2:29 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Snail mail instructions, so actually they got plan properly all along

Blue and White Flag Guy

[2:29 pm, 25/11/2020] +: I just open everything at once ma

Kevin

[2:30 pm, 25/11/2020] +65 9236 9570: Your cert also come in a mail? 😂

Blue and White Flag Guy

[2:30 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Ya

[2:31 pm, 25/11/2020] +: CPF also got send mail, something about Yearly Statement of Account (YSOA) going digital

[2:31 pm, 25/11/2020] +: So can expect your mailbox to be quite crowded later when you go open 😂

[2:40 pm, 25/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

I suggest STB conduct a public survey to get feedback from the public - what they think of this tourism vouchers.

Is it easy to use?

Do they know how to use it?

Will they use it?

STB will then have a good grasp of what the public think.

To date many people I come across whether through private chat group or people I talk to - think that current form is poorly implemented and none have a clue how to redeem

Caleb

[2:41 pm, 25/11/2020] +: letter coming

Berny

[2:41 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Implement already then do survey doesnt make sense imo

Caleb

[2:41 pm, 25/11/2020] +: relax

Blue and White Flag Guy

[2:41 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Mai gong labbish la

[2:41 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Just read

[2:46 pm, 25/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

What STB think is not important.

What the users think is more important.

Because users used it not STB.

If most users is at a loss on how to used it, then shouldn't STB do something to rectify it?

Else even how good the policy is, if poorly implemented - will end up as a failure.

Rama

[2:49 pm, 25/11/2020] +: STB must seriously take into consideration public discourse with this process.

Alvin

[2:49 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Bro we got high standards one hokay? ISO2001 standard ok? Measly letter so troublesome leh

Blue and White Flag Guy

[2:50 pm, 25/11/2020] +: I wonder why must send individually though, waste paper 

Should just send one per household as long as at least 1 qualify

Caleb

[2:51 pm, 25/11/2020] +: family dont share info with 1 another

[2:51 pm, 25/11/2020] +: later kanna complain

Blue and White Flag Guy

[2:51 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Oh that one we discuss before 

But really ah if your family got such issue, is your own issue sia

Caleb

[2:52 pm, 25/11/2020] +: now is complain not eco friendly. lol

Blue and White Flag Guy

[2:52 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Is true what, 3 people same household receive same paper

Caleb

[2:52 pm, 25/11/2020] +: with letter, I think ppl will still flood to the physical counter to redeem

Alvin

[2:53 pm, 25/11/2020] +: My closest friend say that it’s better to let us choose which provider and platform we wanna use to redeem the vouchers that not many choices at all in one single platform

Blue and White Flag Guy

[2:53 pm, 25/11/2020] +: 😂

[3:00 pm, 25/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

I have tested using tracetogether token today everywhere I go.

I am pleased that I can use the token to do SafeEntry in almost every place without the need to dish out my hp to scan QR code and IC.

I am pleased that the government has improved with leap and bound to implement a system that is safe and easy to use.

This is the high standard I expect from the civil service.

Blue and White Flag Guy

[3:00 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Tiagong this is called bootlicking

[3:00 pm, 25/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Those store which do not have a scanner use their handphone to scan my token QR code.

Blue and White Flag Guy

[3:01 pm, 25/11/2020] +: The real standard you don't have to expect is when you PM one of the guys here for help with the TT, he gladly help you with it

[3:03 pm, 25/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

For system that is implemented well - good is good.

For system not implemented well, people feedback, must be humble to listen and improve.

And not find excuses.

This is what is expected from a civil service who serve with good conscience and pride.

Alvin

[3:05 pm, 25/11/2020] +: It’s true bro, my closest friend likes to have the choice. Imagine gov unify on single platform but boring tour package choices. Like that even more ppl will complain and the merchants won’t be happy too. End up you harm more than you help. But that is his 2.15 cents plus custom charges lah

[3:23 pm, 25/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Anyone have a clue how to redeem the voucher based on this 5 website?

Caleb

[3:24 pm, 25/11/2020] +: 1 Dec then start ma

[3:25 pm, 25/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Then this 5 website better brush up by 1 Dec.

If by 1 Dec still this standard, then the policy fail!

REACH

[3:28 pm, 25/11/2020] +: 7 new COVID-19 cases in Singapore, all imported infections

Singapore reported seven new COVID-19 cases as of noon on Wednesday (Nov 25), the Ministry of Health (MOH) said in a preliminary daily update.

All of the cases were imported and were placed on stay-home notice upon arrival in Singapore.

No new locally transmitted cases have been reported in the country for 15 consecutive days.

More details will be provided on Wednesday night, said the health ministry.

More: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-singapore-new-cases-nov-25-imported-community-13634302

[3:28 pm, 25/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

They got 6 more days to go.

Alvin

[3:42 pm, 25/11/2020] +: My close friend finds it amusing that people are finding fault at something that hasn't begin yet.

[3:51 pm, 25/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:

Why not disable the link if not ready?

Only when you are ready then published the links.

Else it confused the public and trigger bad publicity and confusion.

Rama

[3:52 pm, 25/11/2020] +: The issue of navigating to get to what needs to be done.

[3:52 pm, 25/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Exactly.

You are observant and objective

[3:53 pm, 25/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Everything have to be ready before reaching the public.

Berny

[3:53 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Everywhere already say 1 dec

[3:54 pm, 25/11/2020] +: I dont understand the rush

Alvin

[3:57 pm, 25/11/2020] +: He say why can't the merchants prepare the landing page? Got issue? It says 1st Dec and the landing page gets ppl excited. What's wrong with that?

[3:59 pm, 25/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Excited?

Most people got confused.

Alvin

[4:00 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Rush to get covid :3

Jimmy Chew

[4:00 pm, 25/11/2020] +65 9847 9001: Sometimes they want to guage demands

Berny

[4:01 pm, 25/11/2020] +: But how?

[4:01 pm, 25/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

It can be done better.

Berny

[4:01 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Like, everywhere already aay 1 dec

[4:02 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Which part of 1 dec does the confused peoples not understand?

[4:02 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Besides, its not even a 1 day affair, miss this year still can redeem next year right?

Alvin

[4:04 pm, 25/11/2020] +: My friend ask all  his friends none of them confused leh. Some ppl can't understand English of 1st Dec.

Blue and White Flag Guy

[4:04 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Empty vessel seriously

[4:07 pm, 25/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Ok by 1 Dec, hope REACH raise this topic again.

And we shall see any improvement.

Alvin

[4:43 pm, 25/11/2020] +: He say why some ppl like to jump the gun? Eat too full is it? I told him nah it's just narcissism

Blue and White Flag Guy

[4:46 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Shots fired pew pew 🔫

Caleb

[4:47 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Scare me. I thought terrorist or what

Blue and White Flag Guy

[4:48 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Your sarcasm level very the low

Anne

[4:48 pm, 25/11/2020] +: My BFF says since the whole things is so complicated, can the people at her CC / RC familiarize themselves with the usage so on 1 dec she just go down and let them teach her how to use it.

Alvin

[4:48 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Can I ask, have everyone here gotten their TT token ah?

Blue and White Flag Guy

[4:48 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Not yet, mine still says before end of Dec

Caleb

[4:48 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Really la

Alvin

[4:48 pm, 25/11/2020] +: I think the TT Token should be more important but seems like we focus other things liao

[4:49 pm, 25/11/2020] +: 😨

[4:49 pm, 25/11/2020] +: End of DEC?

[4:49 pm, 25/11/2020] +: serious?

Anne

[4:49 pm, 25/11/2020] +: I have. But it’s so ugly my BFF suggest to spray paint it. She can’t be seen wearing such ugly stuff.

Caleb

[4:50 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Token no go where

Alvin

[4:50 pm, 25/11/2020] +: 🤔

Berny

[4:50 pm, 25/11/2020] +: No

[4:50 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Whats the rush for the token anyways

Alvin

[4:50 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Token-as-a-Accessory

Berny

[4:50 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Hackers want to hack my bt then so be it, im just a broke bloke

Blue and White Flag Guy

[4:50 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Serious bro

Anne

[4:51 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Token comes with lanyard, so ya, it’s an accessory

Alvin

[4:51 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Should become My Token Go Where Liao?

[4:51 pm, 25/11/2020] +: :3

Blue and White Flag Guy

[4:51 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Phase 3 

Genuine rush as compared to vouchers

Caleb

[4:51 pm, 25/11/2020] +: I using the app liao

Berny

[4:51 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Scan my app lor

Alvin

[4:51 pm, 25/11/2020] +: i scared my BT kena hack leh :3

[4:51 pm, 25/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

So to answer today topic :-

How to plan to use tourism vouchers?

Answer:- don't know how to plan, because don't know how to use.

Berny

[4:51 pm, 25/11/2020] +: I no scared

Caleb

[4:52 pm, 25/11/2020] +: But moving forward, ALL public places need. 

So taking the token Incase my hp spoil or what

Berny

[4:52 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Bank below 100, want hack then so be it

Alvin

[4:52 pm, 25/11/2020] +: I want a Backup TT incase my phone die on me

[4:52 pm, 25/11/2020] +: sorry occupational sickness

[4:53 pm, 25/11/2020] +: IT everything need backup one

Anne

[4:53 pm, 25/11/2020] +: My BFF says it’s not your BT, it’s G’s BT. So if hack will just hack G’s infrastructure only.

Blue and White Flag Guy

[4:53 pm, 25/11/2020] +: I scared my tooth become blue

Alvin

[4:54 pm, 25/11/2020] +: yes this is my fear bro so I want a token

Blue and White Flag Guy

[4:54 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Same, I think I'll collect one for myself as well especially after I showed @Desmond Koh and the cool kids gang 😎 the issue I had with my app

Anne

[4:54 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Bluetooth is nice, nicer than gold tooth

Alvin

[4:54 pm, 25/11/2020] +: 🤔 hack gov BT?

[4:55 pm, 25/11/2020] +: mai like that bro but my friend say your jokes funny af and i agree with him

Anne

[4:55 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Ya, my BFF told me the token is G property so if hack it’s G’s problem and not ours

Caleb

[4:58 pm, 25/11/2020] +: but ur data is inside lor

[4:59 pm, 25/11/2020] +: ur data of "kissing" other tokens

Blue and White Flag Guy

[4:59 pm, 25/11/2020] +: But that's not exactly valuable data either so I guess only those itchy hands will physically hack it open lol

Berny

[5:03 pm, 25/11/2020] +: I only pray hard that when my bt is hacked, the hacker can help to delete my browsing history before using whatever info they need

YT

[5:05 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Why? What have you been browsing? 😉

Berny

[5:05 pm, 25/11/2020] +: some stuff are better left unknown, but if you really want to know, i'm browsing YouTube during office hours

Desmond Koh

[5:06 pm, 25/11/2020] +: my closest friend said, should use the desktop better :)

[5:07 pm, 25/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

So hope REACH can raise this topic again on 1 Dec - and see whether people can plan how to use the tourism voucher.

Alvin

[5:07 pm, 25/11/2020] +: I see 2 potential problems in Dec 2020.

1) TraceTogether Token/App 

This one if mandatory overnight will likely cause some panic for a rush to get the tokens. Hacking issues aside, there will be chaos at Mall entrances and places where massive crowds are expected during festive season. This will likely occur for the first few days it is implemented and taper off slowly.

2) Rediscover Vouchers

Usages or confusions aside, there will likely be a mad rush to redeem them as well. Expect some teething issues for the first few weeks in Dec and places where vouchers are spent at will likely draw huge crowds too. Might want to have some ambassadors at those areas to assist with the check in etc. Some merchant sites might crashed, I hope they have the necessary infra in place to support the spike. Hope they are on the cough cloud cough.

Desmond Koh

[5:08 pm, 25/11/2020] +: haha those at CC/RC might be volunteer, also need to wait for OJT then know how to use it..

[5:09 pm, 25/11/2020] +: +1

[5:10 pm, 25/11/2020] +: knowing that can ransom you more $$ hahaha

Blue and White Flag Guy

[5:10 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Is all about the unnecessary hype lor 

Gahmen needs to cushion the impact

Alvin

[5:12 pm, 25/11/2020] +: the only reason for this is cos everyone is in Singapore

[5:12 pm, 25/11/2020] +: otherwise they would have travelled overseas and less of an issue

Blue and White Flag Guy

[5:12 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Not just that, but because people are still not that socially responsible

Alvin

[5:13 pm, 25/11/2020] +: since all stuck in Sg, they will go out everyday to compensate for not able to travel

[5:13 pm, 25/11/2020] +: hence expect them

Blue and White Flag Guy

[5:13 pm, 25/11/2020] +: So stay home when these opposite of homesick people are outsai lol

Alvin

[5:16 pm, 25/11/2020] +: it's called wanderlust bro

[5:16 pm, 25/11/2020] +: opposite of homesick is wanderlust

Blue and White Flag Guy

[5:17 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Wanderlust sounds too fanciful

[5:17 pm, 25/11/2020] +: And I'm sick of these people 😂

Rama

[5:19 pm, 25/11/2020] +: 😂🤣😅

[5:20 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Yeah!

[5:38 pm, 25/11/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: 

Wah will like to visit this place in the website 

Wonder which part of Singapore is it?

Berny

[5:39 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Its on the top left corner of the photo

[5:40 pm, 25/11/2020] +: In case the website accidentally confused you

Desmond Koh

[5:41 pm, 25/11/2020] +: My buddy said, please change the destination filter to singapore, please!

The agency don sell SG activities only

Alvin

[5:41 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Bro, my friend say you can bring a donkey to the river but you can't force the stupid donkey to drink

Berny

[5:41 pm, 25/11/2020] +: But for more enquiries, contact them at 

https://www.klook.com/en-SG/ask_klook/?ref_source=FooterAskKlook

Blue and White Flag Guy

[5:42 pm, 25/11/2020] +: YEE ORH

Berny

[5:44 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Heres the site for confuses people:

https://www.klook.com/en-SG/city/6-singapore-things-to-do/

Alvin

[5:44 pm, 25/11/2020] +: My neighbour told me yesterday that his friend tend to confuse what the gov can do and what the gov can't do

Blue and White Flag Guy

[5:45 pm, 25/11/2020] +: This type will confuse what gahmen azency do what one

Alvin

[5:45 pm, 25/11/2020] +: yes bro, my construction worker told me he confuse NEA and SFA

Blue and White Flag Guy

[5:45 pm, 25/11/2020] +: That one still understandable

[5:46 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Cuz SFA relatively new

Alvin

[5:46 pm, 25/11/2020] +: yes bro, so i bought him cai png for lunch to comfort him for his confusion

Blue and White Flag Guy

[5:47 pm, 25/11/2020] +: HAHAHA

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REACH

[6:45 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Dear Contributors!

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[6:59 pm, 25/11/2020] +: More childcare centres appointed for new term of Partner Operator Scheme; fee caps to be lowered

A total of 324 childcare centres have been appointed by the Early Childhood Development Agency (ECDA) for the next term of the Partner Operator (POP) scheme, a 30 per cent increase compared to the current term, the agency said on Wednesday (Nov 25).

Under the new five-year POP term, ECDA will provide funding support to appointed centres to "improve the accessibility, affordability and quality of childcare and infant care services", said the agency in a press release.

More: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/more-childcare-centres-partner-operator-scheme-ecda-13636684

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[7:44 pm, 25/11/2020] +: Authorities will not ‘dictate’ farming methods as Singapore pushes for increased productivity: Grace Fu

The authorities will not “dictate” farming methods even as Singapore pushes for increased productivity, said Minister for Sustainability and the Environment Grace Fu on Wednesday (Nov 25).

Ms Fu was speaking during a question and answer session at her ministry’s 2020: Singapore Food Story appreciation event, which was live streamed on the Ministry of Sustainability and Environment's (MSE) Facebook page.

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Singapore among world's most competitive, pro-business economies, public sector report shows

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SINGAPORE: Even amid the COVID-19 pandemic, the Economic Development Board (EDB) managed to secure S$13 billion worth of fixed asset investment commitments in the first four months of 2020.

That was among the highest in recent years, and reflected businesses’ confidence in Singapore’s “high levels of connectivity, openness, and brand of trust”, according to the latest public sector report released on Thursday (Nov 26).

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It was one example showing how Singapore continues to be among the most competitive and pro-business economies in the world, according to the Singapore Public Sector Outcomes Review (SPOR).

The report, which is coordinated by the Ministry of Finance every two years, looks at how the public sector and Singapore have fared in key areas of national interest.

Singapore has “sound economic fundamentals” and remains an “attractive location” for businesses to grow and invest, the report said.

It cited real gross domestic product growth of 2.9 per cent a year and labour productivity growth of 2.5 per cent per a year from 2014 to 2019, as well as high regard internationally for the country’s business environment and workforce.

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Singapore was ranked among the world’s most competitive economies by the World Economic Forum in 2019, and by the International Institute for Management Development (IIMD) in 2020. This year, it was also the only Asian country in the top 10 of the IIMD’s world talent ranking.

“Singaporeans remain resilient and competitive in the workforce, able to tap new job opportunities,” the report said.

READ: IN FOCUS – After COVID-19, where are the Singapore economy, workforce headed?

“They are assisted by a wide range of support including Adapt and Grow, SkillsFuture and other employment support schemes as well as initiatives to ensure fair consideration for Singaporean jobseekers.”

As of August, the SGUnited Jobs and Skills Package to respond to the COVID-19 pandemic has made 117,500 opportunities available, with more than 33,000 placed, according to the report.

Between 2014 and 2019, more than 100,000 jobseekers were placed in jobs through Adapt and Grow, and more than 14,500 reskilled to take on new jobs through Place-and-Train programmes, it added.

READ: IN FOCUS – Graduating into a COVID-19 jobs market - short-term challenges and longer-term issues?

SEIZING BUSINESS OPPORTUNITIES

Singapore businesses have been “looking beyond immediate challenges and preparing to seize longer-term opportunities by harnessing growth in Asia, going digital and promoting innovation”, the report also said.

This could be seen in the 37 per cent increase (over five years) in direct investment into Southeast Asia by Singapore-based companies. Most of the 600 projects that Enterprise Singapore facilitated globally last year were in China and Southeast Asia, the report added.

It noted that 216,000 business have registered for PayNow Corporate and are now able to send and receive e-payments instantly.

The report also highlighted an increase in business expenditure on research and development, at a compound annual growth rate of 3 per cent from 2014 to 2018, as well as sales revenue from the commercialisation of R&D rising from S$25.2 billion a year to S$31.8 billion a year over the same period

READ: Groups spearheading Singapore's post-COVID-19 economic plans announce new ideas

EASE OF DOING BUSINESS

Singapore also continued to be highly regarded as a place to do business, the report said. This year, the country ranked second in the World Bank’s Ease of Doing Business Index, after consistently placing in the top three for the past 14 years.

The country also did well in two other indicators, placing fourth in the world for starting a business and first in the world for enforcing contracts, according to the report.

“Streamlined regulations and improved government to business (G2B) services make it easy to start and grow a business, as well as pursue innovation. It takes only 1.5 days to start a business in Singapore,” the report said.

The country also ranked first in digital infrastructure in the Economist Intelligence Unit’s Asian Digital Transformation Index 2018, and has built “a robust foundation of strong digital connectivity over the years”, according to the report.

It said that “improved and secure digital connectivity” was underway, including the Networked Trade Platform, which functions as a single window for all customs- and trade-related services, as well as cybersecurity enhancements and 5G trials.

A majority of businesses and citizens, at 77 per cent and 86 per cent respectively, also described themselves as “very or extremely satisfied” with the quality of government e-services last year, according to the report.

Singaporeans now enjoy more ready access to digital government services such as through the LifeSG app, the report added.

READ: Singapore economy 'turning the corner', but recovery still a long way to go – Chan Chun Sing

“POCKETS OF RESILIENCE”

Noting that Singapore’s economy is expected to shrink between 6 per cent and 6.5 per cent this year, the report said this reflected a “sharp deterioration in the domestic and global economic environment” caused by COVID-19.

“Nonetheless, there remain pockets of resilience in Singapore’s economy such as biomedical manufacturing, and information and communications and media,” said the report.

“With our openness to talent and respect for fair consideration, Singapore remains an attractive hub where businesses can build their best teams and create good jobs for Singaporeans,” it added.

“Singapore stands on strong economic fundamentals that will help us to rebound from this crisis and capture new opportunities.”

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Singaporeans' life expectancy among highest in the world: Public sector report

People wearing face masks at Bedok Jetty along East Coast Park on Jul 19, 2020. (Photo: Try Sutrisno Foo)

26 Nov 2020 12:46PM(Updated: 26 Nov 2020 04:00PM)

 
 
 
 

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SINGAPORE: The life expectancy of Singaporeans is among the highest in the world at 81.4 and 85.7 for men and women respectively in 2019, according to the latest public sector report released on Thursday (Nov 26).

The Singapore Public Sector Outcomes Review, which is published every two years, also touched on COVID-19, saying that the pandemic has fostered a “strong spirit of care and concern” for one another.

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The report, prepared by the Ministry of Finance, shows how Singapore has fared in key areas of national interest with data covering up to 2019 in most cases.

According to the report, the health adjusted life expectancy at birth for Singaporeans is also one of the highest in the world. Measuring the number of years a person is expected to live in good health, the expectancy is 72.6 for men and 75.8 for women in 2017.

Mortality rates in Singapore due to cancer, stroke and heart diseases have also reduced over the years, said the report.

However, about one in three residents aged 40 to 69 has hypertension, one in seven has diabetes and two in five have high cholesterol.

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“We will need to strengthen our efforts to tackle these chronic conditions and continue to build a strong health ecosystem that empowers Singaporeans to live healthy lives,” said the report.

READ: MOH will strengthen Singapore’s long-term healthcare system even as it fights COVID-19: Gan Kim Yong

READ: Patients with complex chronic conditions to get higher annual MediSave withdrawal limit

COVID-19 FOSTERED SENSE OF COMMUNITY AMONG EACH OTHER

While COVID-19 has affected many aspects of life, it has also brought about a strong sense of community among Singaporeans, said the report.

More than 28,000 grassroots, public service and citizen volunteers helped in the nationwide mask collection exercises, while more than 1,500 grassroots leaders and volunteers had taken on roles as safe distancing ambassadors.

Individuals have also taken personal responsibility to abide by the national public health measures, said the report. For example, the TraceTogether app covers more than 50 per cent of the population, with more than 2.9 million app and token users as of November.

The report said that Singaporeans have shown “everyday acts of care” including via SGUnited, a digital portal for people to contribute toward the national response to COVID-19.

Between January and May this year, a total of S$90 million was donated to the Community Chest, the Community Foundation of Singapore’s Sayang Sayang Fund, as well as through the SG Cares app and Giving.sg donation platform.

Head of civil service Leo Yip said that this year’s report recognised the partnership between the government and people in the collective fight against COVID-19.

“Working together has enabled us to serve those in need and overcome this crisis as one.

“Whether in crisis or in normalcy, the Public Service will continue to strive for better outcomes for our citizens and our businesses,” said Mr Yip.

READ: Sufficient capacity in healthcare system amid COVID-19 outbreak, but Singapore cannot be complacent: Gan Kim Yong

90% OF HOUSEHOLD LIVE WITHIN 10-MINUTE WALK FROM A PARK

With around 90 per cent of households in Singapore living within a 10-minute walk from a park, Singapore is among one of the world’s greenest and most liveable cities, said the report.

Seventy per cent of households are also within a 10-minute walk from a train station, it said.

There is affordable and accessible public housing, with 80 per cent of resident households living in Housing and Development Board flats, with 90 per cent owning their own homes.

For families buying their first flat, they can use the Enhanced CPF Housing Grant of up to S$80,000, on top of the subsidised price of the flat. A first-timer family buying a resale flat can also get total housing grants of up to S$160,000.

The report also highlighted that towns are more technology-enabled and sustainable through features such as smart utility meters and lights.

“These features will not only lower utility bills, but also allow Singaporeans to contribute to sustainable living,” it said, noting that areas like the Jurong Lake District and Punggol Digital District would bring jobs closer to home.

Singapore’s transport network is also “convenient, reliable and accessible”, said the report.

With Singapore progressing towards the goal of 20-minute towns within a 45-minute city, this means that people can walk, cycle, or ride to the nearest neighbourhood centre within 20 minutes and complete most peak-period journeys between their homes and workplaces within 45 minutes

Source: CNA/ad(rw)