Tuesday, January 14, 2014

Thai opposition protesters threaten to capture PM Yingluck

Published on Jan 14, 2014
7:34 PM



Police commandos should be sent to capture the protest leaders - that cause a breakdown of law and order, crippling the Economy, threatening a democratic elected Government, obstructing an Election to take place and threatening to take a Prime Minister hostage.
This has gone too far.


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      The farthest they have gone was to 'assassinate' one major-general in uniform with a sniper's bullet - instant death - the last time. Plus many others.
      If there was no big gun supporting the demo, where do they find the supporters who have food and drinks and shelter brought to the locations.
      Curious why politics can divide a country so badly.

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          Assassination should not be in the equation. It carry heavy karma. Arresting the troublemakers in accordance with the law should be the right way in dispensing justice and maintain law and order.
          Political settlement need to be carry out - to resolve the political divide.
          Political party cannot hold the country hostage by staging such protest and lockdown the country to serve individual group interest.
          Imagine if the Government is being brought down by such manner, and the protester form the Government, then the other group will stage similar protest to pull this group down.
          Then where is law and order? There will be no end to this.
          Then what is the purpose of holding Elections to elect a Government - which is suppose to be a fair process of electing a Government to represent the the people and govern the Country?
          Then it become a jungle law.
          In future, whichever party has the capability to incite and organise protest can then cause havoc to the country and pull down any incumbent Government.
          If there is no system in place to accomodate the varied interests of the diverse group - there will be no peace in sight.
          Only the 9 Grade kueh lapis - can solve Thailand's problem.


            I mentioned that they shot a major-general. I did not recommend any of such violent action.

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                Yap. They should not use violent action or assassination. It will inflame the situation. Moreover it will invoke bad karma.
                Use political settlement to settle issues will be the best.
                Ultimately, inclusive policies will have to be put in place - so that every strata of the society feel included. This will be the best way to resolve this political divide.
                Otherwise, such political stalemate will just go on and on in a vicious cycle.


                May I suggest that you avoid using the
                term karma here, please.

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                    OK I use, a person reap what he sow.
                    This is a Universal Law. No one in this
                    World, albeit Universe can run away
                    from it.
                    Truth is truth. No one can wish away
                    the truth or be an ostrich of the truth.


                    The application of karma is not
                    a direct cause-effect
                    relationship. The Buddha
                    taught that many cosmic laws
                    govern the universe. So, we
                    cannot apply the karmic
                    principle so confidently. I call
                    meself a Buddhist and has
                    done some studies of
                    comparative religions.

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                        You kill, you see whether you
                        will be arrested for murder
                        or not?

                        That is man-made law.
                        That is not karma.
                        The Buddha's teachings
                        have nothing to do with
                        man-made laws.
                        This is basic.

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                            Then you may not have
                            understand karma.
                            Karma means "you reap
                            what you sow".
                            If man-made law is not
                            part of karma (whether
                            fully compensate or
                            over prescribe for a
                            particular unwholesome
                            act) - then how do you
                            define karma?


                          Let us talk about karma in
                          relative term.
                          Karma is measured by 2
                          faculties & rebirth :-
                          (1) Karma measured in mental
                          states.
                          (2) Karma measured in
                          physical environment affiliations.
                          (3) Karma determining rebirth
                          into other realms of existence.
                          Karma can be weighty -
                          immediate effect.
                          Karma can be death proximate.
                          Karma can be habitual.
                          Karma can be reserve.
                          For killing - karma is weighty -
                          and can take immediate effect.
                          (Man - made law - in this
                          respect - that make immediate
                          arrest - will impact the person
                          who commit weighty karma -
                          in turn of his mental states and
                          change his physical affiliations
                          if he is turn into prisons and
                          subject to punishment).
                          If he is given the death penalty - he will be destined to the next rebirth - following his weighty
                          karma.
                          Who say man-made law - is
                          not part of the karma process?
                          If he is not caught - his karma
                          is reserve - and postpone - will
                          be into his next life but
                          compounded - he will suffer a
                          more miserable outcome - when
                          his karma comes.
                          Of course karma is not direct
                          relationship - there are many
                          factors compounding the
                          manifestation of karma - only
                          Buddha can accurately
                          linking up all the cause and
                          effects to accurately predict or
                          foretold the outcome.
                          If Quantum physics can be fully
                          understood - and can calculate
                          karma - we can consult the
                          Quantum karma calculator in
                          future - to see what a
                          person reap will result in what
                          he sow - at when.


                          If not people can do a simple
                          test on karma.
                          Tell a lie.
                          Later when someone found out
                          your lie and exposed you -
                          observe:-
                          (1) Your own mental state and
                          consciousness - and see
                          whether is it pleasant or
                          unpleasant.
                          (2) If someone expose you
                          when there are many people
                          around - you see whether will
                          you perceive the whole
                          environment is hostile or
                          friendly.
                          A simple lie - may not be
                          weighty and carry over to the
                          next life - thus no impact on
                          rebirth.
                          However if a lie is not exposed
                          in this lifetime, then the karma
                          of lie will be carried over the
                          next rebirth - and will manifest
                          when the seed ripen - and the
                          karma will be compounded.
                          This is a Universal Truth - no
                          one can run away from it
                          unless a person attain
                          Cessation of Karma.


                          People who do not believe in
                          karma or "Reap what is Sow" -
                          will be scary - because he or
                          she will act with impunity.
                          Thus man-made law is a proxy
                          to the Universal Law of Karma - to remind people about the existence of
                          Universal Law of Karma.
                          So man-made law - is part of the larger Universal Law of Karma.
                          If man-made law is not
                          adequate - Universal Law of
                          Karma will come in to
                          compensate - up or down.


                          I don't question your
                          understanding of karma.
                          Just don't mix karma
                          with man-made laws.
                          Buddha taught
                          independent of
                          man-made laws. 
                          For example, if you
                          accidentally kill
                          someone while driving a
                          car, you may not
                          generate karma. But
                          man-made laws will
                          punish you.

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                              I think you should go on
                              top to read more on
                              karma. If you want exact
                              precise explanation of
                              Karma, request a
                              Buddha to explain.
                              Accidental killing
                              someone will invoke
                              karma. If not ask yourself
                              whether there is any
                              changes in your mental
                              state and your
                              physical well being.
                              Buddha taught karma
                              independant of
                              man-made law - because
                              there are no law
                              or very little man-made
                              law at Buddha's time.
                              Now with the advent of
                              man-made law and
                              technology that
                              are closer and closer to
                              the truth of Universal
                              Law - man-made law
                              and Universal Law of
                              karma is getting closer
                              and closer.
                              Just go to read and
                              understand Newtons law
                              of cause and effect.
                              One action will bring
                              about an equal reaction.
                              - that is physics.
                              Why karma is so difficult
                              to understand?
                              Newton Law is physical
                              karma.
                              Universal Law of karma - is
                              mental karma.


                              Please be careful not to
                              tell people that Buddha
                              say accidental killing
                              does not invoke karma -
                              this is not correct.
                              One of the 8 NoblePath
                              is for disciple to master
                              Mindfulness - so that
                              there will be no
                              accidental killing or
                              invoking of karma
                              through accidents.
                              Mindfulness on every
                              speech, thoughts and
                              actions - ensure
                              a person can attain
                              Enlightenment - and will
                               not invoke karma
                              through carelessness,
                              recklessness.
                              So I don't know where
                              did you get the
                              impression that Buddha
                              preach accidental killings
                              have no karma?
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                        The 9 Grade kueh lapis are as follow :-
                        To meet the objectives of Inclusive Growth and address the diverse needs and tensions:-
                        Maybe it is possible to categorise people into 9 category or group of people so that policies can be tailor modularly to help each group of people.
                        Policies can be string horizontally within the group and cut across vertically across group.
                        The 9 Categories are :-
                        Upper-Upper
                        Upper-Middle
                        Upper-Lower
                        Middle-Upper
                        Middle-Middle
                        Middle-Lower
                        Lower-Upper
                        Lower-Middle
                        Lower-Lower
                        Thus every policies can be modularise, hierarchical, scalable – up & down, left & right, containerise, cut across the various categories.

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                            Many developed countries and fast developing countries will face the problem - the social divide - represented by a pyramid.
                            Only the 9 grade kueh lapis can resolve such social divide problem.

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