REACH 572 - What are your thoughts on the Singapore Police Force's stance on the issue? What more can we do as a community to maintain religious harmony in Singapore?
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24 May 2024 (10am - 7pm)
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24/5/24, 10:00 am - +REACH: ๐ข *Topic* ๐ข
On May 21 (Tuesday), the police stated that the planned performance of a South Korean DJ “monk” must not involve any religious elements if it is to proceed after issuing an advisory to the nightclub involved in staging the event. The entertainer, known as DJ NewJeansNim, has been known for performing while wearing a monk's robe and incorporating Buddhist mantras into his set.
๐ฌ *What are your thoughts on the Singapore Police Force's stance on the issue? What more can we do as a community to maintain religious harmony in Singapore?*
๐ *_Details on the Police statement_*
In the statement, which came following calls by the Singapore Buddhist Federation that the shows should be cancelled, the Police emphasized that they had advised the nightclub to adhere to the conditions of its public entertainment licence.
According to these licence conditions, the establishment must ensure that any public entertainment provided is not likely to be offensive to any race, religion, ethnicity or nationality, or potentially cause disharmony among different groups, said the police.
They added that NewJeansNim’s shows “may be in violation of this condition”, given the nature of the planned performance.
๐ *_Reactions of Ministers to the incident_*
Minister for Law and Home Affairs K. Shanmugam also noted in a Facebook post that the performer has used religious verses in song lyrics and a Buddhist prayer item in his previous shows.
“This would have been offensive to our Buddhist community. This is not acceptable,” said Minister Shanmugam.
Minister for Culture, Community and Youth and Second Minister for Law, Edwin Tong also highlighted that the government has “clear rules” about what can or cannot be staged at such public entertainment performances.
๐ *_Reaction by the Singapore Buddhist Federation_*
Venerable You Guang, secretary-general of the Singapore Buddhist Federation, on May 22 said he appreciated the “swift and firm” statements from Minister Shanmugam and Minister Tong.
Ven You Guang said the ministers’ statements showed they respected and protected religious sanctity in Singapore, and added: “We need deep respect and understanding for one (another) as we navigate this world of constant changes, challenges and opportunities.”
๐ *_Response by the nightclub hosting the DJ_*
The nightclub has since told the authorities that his performance here will not contain anything religious.
Mr Jackie He, owner of Club Rich, said that the performance will not be cancelled on either night, but the nightclub will ensure the DJ does not wear a monk’s robe, use a religious instrument, or play any music that is related to a Buddhist chant.
“Club Rich respects all religions, and we will be ensuring that the performance will be a non-religious performance,” he said.
๐ https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/south-korea-dj-monk-newjeansnim-no-religious-elements-if-performance-proceeds-club-rich-police-4354146
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24/5/24, 10:01 am - +Caleb: no reply from this no.
24/5/24, 10:02 am - +Rama: Playing with fire!?
24/5/24, 10:03 am - +Terrie Wong: The Buddha is watching...
24/5/24, 10:04 am - +Rama: Beware divine retribution!
24/5/24, 10:09 am - +Frankie Wee: Don’t know about Buddhism culture I have seemed it’s like silence worship but do not have pop or JD musical theatre.
24/5/24, 10:20 am - +Darius Lee: There was a similar incident involving the CHIJMES 'Chapel Party' in 2012:
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/chijmes-%E2%80%98chapel-party%E2%80%99-draws-flak-from-catholic-community.html
24/5/24, 10:24 am - +Darius Lee: Buddhism is the largest religious group in Singapore (31.1% according to the 2020 Census).
I think any entertainment establishment should exercise good taste and sensibility when organising events and activities.
24/5/24, 10:30 am - +Rama: Next, islam/Judaism/Hindu!?
24/5/24, 10:51 am - +~l or Smiley face: "Art is the mirror of society, and society is the mirror of art. Let's create a reflection that is respectful, inclusive, and empowering for all."
-- anonymity
24/5/24, 11:07 am - +SL: The SPF stance is clear and appropriate. Religious harmony is a main pillar of racial harmony.
24/5/24, 11:09 am - +Agent K: This one really offend ppl
24/5/24, 11:10 am - +Nic Freehold: Have you seen the modern church worship?
24/5/24, 11:11 am - +Rama: Evangelical and not traditional!
24/5/24, 11:12 am - +Nic Freehold: It’s a ticketed closed door event. Then recently MBS had a baby baptism event, casino and church and babies also a clash ?
24/5/24, 11:13 am - +Nic Freehold: Buddhism used to have more followers, but young people are attracted by the modern music
24/5/24, 11:13 am - +Rama: Dangerous!
24/5/24, 11:13 am - +Nic Freehold: I was asked to go to so many churches w plays and music
24/5/24, 11:13 am - +Agent K: Once read a a script when an enlighten person wear a robes mean u need to obey the enlightenment. Normal person laugh at ppl on these , can atone by doing good deed. If this case is like knowing the law breaks the law goes straight to hell one
24/5/24, 11:13 am - +Rama: ๐คฆ♂️๐ณ๐
24/5/24, 11:13 am - +Nic Freehold: And I was wondering where’s the hymns
24/5/24, 11:13 am - +Rama: Rubbish!
24/5/24, 11:13 am - +Rama: ๐คท♂️
24/5/24, 11:14 am - +Thank You Woman: Well, it all boils down to what’s their objective.
Is this DJ(producer presenter) a buddhist?
First we seek understanding on what he wants to achieve/reason for putting on the monk robe.
Overall being respectful is the point.
24/5/24, 11:14 am - +Agent K: ไป็้ฉผ่ไธบไฝๅ ，ๅไธ่ฎฅ็ฌๆไฝไบบ。ไป็ๆๆไธบไฝๅ ，ๅไธ้ ไธๅฎณๆไบบ。 this the part of script .
24/5/24, 11:14 am - +Nic Freehold: If Singapore have novena and catholic type churches for 100 + years, yet our largest churches today own part of Suntec City and that Buona Vista mall
24/5/24, 11:15 am - +Nic Freehold: Why no one protested? Church and commerce?
24/5/24, 11:15 am - +Rama: Religious attire has no place outside of a religious setting +
24/5/24, 11:16 am - +Sugeng Shi: Totally agree on this point. Why should people display religious affiliation and attires outside the religious settings? It’s irrelevant. <This message was edited>
24/5/24, 11:16 am - +Agent K: I agree to
24/5/24, 11:19 am - +Nic Freehold: During 1980s, the Grammy Oscar award show winners many said “thank you God” or mentioned Jesus so many times, it felt alienating as they entered our homes by TV.
Whole Muslim, Hindu, Taoist families watching that, the children ask their parents… how?
We seem to give free pass to Evangelical Christians
24/5/24, 11:26 am - +Agent K: Per my understanding , What are the unforgivable sins in Buddhism?
The Dhammasangฤni [5] regard five acts – matricide, parricide, slaying an Arhat, slaying a Buddha, and causing division among priesthood to be five unpardonable sins. The four pฤrฤjikas (lit. "defeats") are rules entailing expulsion from the sangha for life. If a monk breaks any one of the rules he is automatically "defeated" in the holy life and falls from monkhood immediately. He is not allowed to become a monk again in his lifetime. Intention is necessary in all these four cases to constitute an offence <This message was edited>
24/5/24, 11:27 am - +Frankie Wee: Yes at city harvest church
They are dance and pop with DJ and show theatre on event Christmas and Good Friday
24/5/24, 11:27 am - +Rama: Nonsense!
24/5/24, 11:28 am - +Frankie Wee: Singapore can be art and culture
24/5/24, 11:28 am - +Frankie Wee: I have been there
24/5/24, 11:28 am - +Rama: Religion separate!
24/5/24, 11:29 am - +Frankie Wee: But monk on DJ I respect the rule which is disallowed by other group monk against him
24/5/24, 11:30 am - +Agent K: true protestant I think. If I not wrong Christian school, they say prayer everyday, weekly prayers to god. and banned ppl from playing magic card. They principal say we summoning devils using the cards from devils <This message was edited>
24/5/24, 11:31 am - +Rama: Agree
24/5/24, 11:33 am - +Frankie Wee: https://youtu.be/BO5AHmhJid8?si=eyG00vZ4HIpKqmPO
24/5/24, 11:33 am - +Frankie Wee: Like that also can
24/5/24, 11:34 am - +Frankie Wee: But dress monk something is strictly the rule religion
24/5/24, 11:44 am - +Agent K: Btw I think , all places of worship should not building more carpark in their compound. Global warming. secondly I see at TTSH area ( don't want to pin point where but a number of places ) they block a lot of ambulance, alt now is better but it really weird to see ppl praying causing harm to others instead. I wonder what will the higher being think of ? When u go visit holy places shouldn't we travel humbly to see them ? It luxury asking u to travel by public transport not by foot wearing straw footwear. Plus if really got ppl delay going to Hospital , may result in bad blood in future. <This message was edited>
24/5/24, 11:45 am - +Rama: Agree
24/5/24, 11:49 am - +Nic Freehold: Jogye Order, South Korea’s largest Buddhist sect, has employed NewJeansNim as part of its outreach efforts.
In a meeting with NewJeansNim, the president of The Jogye Order Venerable Jin-woo said: "I am thankful for the work you have done in spreading a much younger Buddhism to the young generation."
In that same meeting, Venerable Jin-woo also presented NewJeansNim with prayer beads and a headset.
24/5/24, 11:50 am - +Nic Freehold: South Korea surpassed Japan in electronics and cultural exports
24/5/24, 11:51 am - +Nic Freehold: Let’s boil down to fundamentals, why Christians can be bible quoting in MRT coaches and malls PUBLIC spaces, why can’t Buddhists?
Importantly this is a ticketed event
24/5/24, 11:51 am - +Nic Freehold: Don’t like don’t buy ticket
24/5/24, 11:52 am - +Nic Freehold: 1980s we had so much satanic like heavy metal rock
24/5/24, 11:52 am - +Rama: ๐ณ
24/5/24, 11:53 am - +Nic Freehold: Black sabbath was ok?
24/5/24, 11:53 am - +Nic Freehold: upside down crosses?
24/5/24, 11:53 am - +Nic Freehold: Focus on family is a church masquerading as social orgn
24/5/24, 11:54 am - +Nic Freehold: Why no protests?
24/5/24, 11:54 am - +Rama: Church of Satan!?
24/5/24, 11:54 am - +Thomas: The main thing is the reverence , respect and worship for their own belief. We can impart the wrong concept to young that churches, temple can be a discotheque to attract the young. Where will they respect the place of worship ?
24/5/24, 11:54 am - +Frankie Wee: No such in service sg
24/5/24, 11:55 am - +Thomas: Yes there is a church of Satan .
24/5/24, 11:55 am - +Frankie Wee: Where have?
24/5/24, 11:55 am - +Frankie Wee: Church hate Satan
24/5/24, 11:55 am - +Frankie Wee: Satan is worship by devil ๐
24/5/24, 11:58 am - +Thomas: This is underground church.
24/5/24, 11:59 am - +Rama: <Media omitted>
24/5/24, 12:00 pm - +Frankie Wee: No thank I don’t want
24/5/24, 12:00 pm - +Nic Freehold: Actually it exists
24/5/24, 12:00 pm - +Rama: Yes
24/5/24, 12:00 pm - +Frankie Wee: If you believe in Satan then what do need cult example drink blood and sexually
24/5/24, 12:01 pm - +Rama: Reverse crucifix
24/5/24, 12:01 pm - +Frankie Wee: Satan is favour goat star
24/5/24, 12:01 pm - +Nic Freehold: I heard church youths and some cell groups go to pubs and discos to mingle
24/5/24, 12:07 pm - +Nic Freehold: Korea is so advanced in cultural exports
24/5/24, 12:07 pm - +Nic Freehold: They keep producing pop stars
24/5/24, 12:07 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
1. Firstly, a person must be trained, practice, ordained and qualify as a monk in order for him to wear a monk robe, shave his hair and follow the Vinaya order (discipline order).
2. A person cannot just shave his hair, wear a monk robe, put on a bead, chant a few mantra - and declare himself a monk.
3. Just like a person cannot put on a doctor robe, put a stethoscope around his neck, say a few medical terms - paracetamol, covid, statin - then call himself doctor.
4. Because Buddhist disciples will emulate what a Master do, patients will believe in the treatment of a doctor - and will bring harm to followers if the Master is a fake monk or bring harm to the patients if treated by a fake doctor.
24/5/24, 12:08 pm - +Nic Freehold: We only have 1 PCK and the Nonya series that some Asians recognise as Singapore
24/5/24, 12:08 pm - +Rama: Entertainment industry toxic and vulgar!
24/5/24, 12:08 pm - +Nic Freehold: Is the KOREAN DJ asking Buddhists to kill?
24/5/24, 12:08 pm - +Nic Freehold: To eat meat?
24/5/24, 12:09 pm - +Nic Freehold: Not follow 4 noble path?
24/5/24, 12:09 pm - +Nic Freehold: Impermanence and enlightenment is the message
24/5/24, 12:09 pm - +Nic Freehold: by preaching hate, who wins?
24/5/24, 12:10 pm - +Nic Freehold: Mara
24/5/24, 12:10 pm - +Rama: You will be surprised!
24/5/24, 12:11 pm - +Nic Freehold: <Media omitted>
24/5/24, 12:17 pm - +Nic Freehold: No wonder expats say we are boring
24/5/24, 12:17 pm - +Nic Freehold: Like some village mountain tortoise
24/5/24, 12:18 pm - +Rama: We can't be a copycat of their lifestyle either!
24/5/24, 12:18 pm - +Nic Freehold: Ok What about that’s Blanche party?
24/5/24, 12:18 pm - +Nic Freehold: Brunch : their lifestyle
24/5/24, 12:19 pm - +Rama: What about Taylor swift!?
24/5/24, 12:19 pm - +Frankie Wee: What about Micheal Jackson
24/5/24, 12:19 pm - +Frankie Wee: ๐
24/5/24, 12:20 pm - +Rama: And so on!
24/5/24, 12:20 pm - +Frankie Wee: Music pop not all are good but sometime bad music
24/5/24, 12:21 pm - +Nic Freehold: Gaza is being bombed and we are talking wasting energy about a ticketed event
24/5/24, 12:21 pm - +Nic Freehold: There are more controversial talking points behind many closed doors
24/5/24, 12:22 pm - +Rama: Trading her soul to Satan for temporal fleeting moments of riches and fame?
https://images.app.goo.gl/P8sxCSgjdRHQi41Y6
24/5/24, 12:22 pm - +Frankie Wee: Belief Satan and Jesus
24/5/24, 12:22 pm - +Frankie Wee: It’s combine into musics
24/5/24, 12:23 pm - +Frankie Wee: But true heart do not tell there is nothing exist
24/5/24, 12:24 pm - +SL: Non registered? ๐ฑ
24/5/24, 12:24 pm - +Nic Freehold: https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guides/z6b96v4/revision/4#:~:text=There%20were%20a%20number%20of,'work'%20which%20was%20forbidden.
24/5/24, 12:25 pm - +Nic Freehold: Jesus was a maverick, a radical back in the day
24/5/24, 12:26 pm - +Nic Freehold: “He made claims about himself that the Jewish leaders could not accept – that he was God’s son and the promised saviour.
Jesus was accused of blasphemy by the Jewish leaders. Blasphemy is a religious offence, when a person says or does something regarded as being disrespectful to God. In the eyes of the Jewish leaders, when Jesus claimed to be God’s son he was insulting God. Blasphemy was taken very seriously and the punishment was death by stoning.
After Jesus was arrested, he was put on trial by the Sanhedrin. This was the highest ruling council of the Jews.”
24/5/24, 12:27 pm - +Rama: No such thing!
24/5/24, 12:28 pm - +Nic Freehold: Religious studies
24/5/24, 12:28 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
1. Next the place of imparting religious knowledge must be appropriate.
2. A nightclub - is a place of sleaze - alcohol, desire manifest places, sexual exploits - which infringe all the basic precepts - is an inappropriate place for religious impart.
3. Imparting religious teachings preferably should be in the appropriate place of worship - a Buddhist temple for Buddhists.
4. But event hall, home and other places that are serene are also possible if organise respectfully. <This message was edited>
24/5/24, 12:28 pm - +Nic Freehold: Please research and talk w scholars
24/5/24, 12:29 pm - +Nic Freehold: that was my first reaction when I saw a video short
24/5/24, 12:29 pm - +Nic Freehold: Then I dug deep
24/5/24, 12:29 pm - +Rama: Nothing changes
24/5/24, 12:29 pm - +Nic Freehold: ???
24/5/24, 12:29 pm - +Nic Freehold: go research
24/5/24, 12:33 pm - +Nic Freehold: After the courts cases, https://www.chc.org.sg/about-us/our-founders/sun-ho
24/5/24, 12:33 pm - +Nic Freehold: After all those sexy music videos
24/5/24, 12:33 pm - +Nic Freehold: Why is she still a pastor?
24/5/24, 12:34 pm - +Rama: Status quo
24/5/24, 12:34 pm - +Rama: Dress like a slut!๐ณ๐คฆ♂️
24/5/24, 12:35 pm - +Nic Freehold: <Media omitted>
24/5/24, 12:36 pm - +Rama: Both!
24/5/24, 12:36 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
1. Buddhism are open to all people regardless of high social status, middle social status, low social status, good men/women, even criminals or people who indulge in sinful activities provided people are willing to repent and desire to do good or lead a wholesome life.
2. But Master who preach Buddhism teachings must be the right teacher - who have practice and inherited the right values of Buddha teachings.
3. Else a fake teacher will be a cult who exploits sensory pleasures of gullible disciples - and then impart the wrong values and wrong teachings to disciples - will not lead the disciples to the path of Enlightenment but instead lead disciples onto the wrong path.
24/5/24, 12:39 pm - +Nic Freehold: Agree, that’s why I think Sun should not be a religious leader
24/5/24, 12:40 pm - +Nic Freehold: yet Singaporeans made no noise for decades
24/5/24, 12:40 pm - +Nic Freehold: Despite the court’s cases on financial issues
24/5/24, 12:41 pm - +Nic Freehold: Venerable Abbot so quiet
24/5/24, 12:41 pm - +Rama: We have been silenced!
24/5/24, 12:43 pm - +Rama: Agree
24/5/24, 12:45 pm - +Nic Freehold: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/5/24/israels-war-on-gaza-live-news-at-least-60-palestinians-killed-in-attacks
24/5/24, 12:45 pm - +Rama: Blame Hamas!
24/5/24, 12:48 pm - +Nic Freehold: This message was deleted
24/5/24, 12:49 pm - +Nic Freehold: Do more research
24/5/24, 12:49 pm - +Nic Freehold: https://amp.scmp.com/news/asia/southeast-asia/article/3263593/south-korean-dj-newjeansnim-barred-performing-singapore-nightclub
24/5/24, 12:49 pm - +Nic Freehold: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/05/20/middleeast/icc-israel-hamas-arrest-warrant-war-crimes-intl
24/5/24, 12:50 pm - +Nic Freehold: Hong Kong laughing at us
24/5/24, 12:50 pm - +Nic Freehold: how can we be the most important city in Asia?
24/5/24, 12:50 pm - +Nic Freehold: Regional hub?
24/5/24, 12:52 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
1. In a Jataka story, a disciple known as Devadatta, the cousin of Buddha - learn from the Buddha and has attained Jhana Samadhi - with some psychic power.
2. He become arrogant and use his psychic power to start to entice quite many of Buddha disciples over - and proclaimed himself as Master.
3. When he gain more and more disciples, by using his psychic power - he become more and more arrogant and want to have power - and say he is ready to replace Buddha.
4. He taught his disciples sensory pleasures, flaunt his psychic power, recruit more believers, force disciples to give him money, build big house to stay, and project his power influence through greed, deception through psychic power and many ways that breach all precepts and orders taught by Buddha - and persecute Buddha's disciples.
5. Eventually, many disciples are confused by the 2 opposing orders. He also plot many ways to harm the Buddha and His disciples - but fail in all attempts.
6. As Devadatta cause an anarchy to Buddhism teachings - one of the Greatest Sin - his karma finally arrived - and he descended to the deepest hell.
7. In the deepest hell, Devadatta is very fearful because the sufferings re immeasurable. And he pleaded to the Buddha to save him.
8. Buddha out of compassion lower a rope to the deepest hell to save Devadatta, but the moment Devadatta see the light and Buddha, an evil thought come to him, the moment if he emerge from hell, he will push Buddha into hell, and he can replace Buddha.
9. The moment this evil thought emerge, the rope break, and the hell in tremendous ramble close and buried Devadatta into Avicii Hell - the deepest hell - because his last strewn of thought, is an evil thought - and his karma come to him immediately.
24/5/24, 12:52 pm - +Nic Freehold: “Youn Sung-ho, who goes by the moniker NewJeansNim, is a comedian-turned-musician. He is credited with reviving Buddhism’s popularity among young South Koreans”
https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/11/05/south-korea-suicide-rates-mental-illness-squid-game/
24/5/24, 12:53 pm - +Rama: None for obama/bush/Clinton/Reagan/John Howard/tiny Blair/Justin trudeau!?
24/5/24, 12:53 pm - +Nic Freehold: Would we rather more youths commit suicide
24/5/24, 12:54 pm - +Nic Freehold: For the past two decades, it has had the highest suicide rate among developed nations: 24.6 suicides for every 100,000 people in South Korea in 2019, compared to 14.5 suicides in the United States in 2017. Although South Korea’s older adults are still the most likely to die by suicide due to poverty and isolation, young people are rapidly dying by suicide. Between 2018 and 2019, the number of South Koreans under age 40 who took their own lives rose by 10 percent, according to the Korea National Statistics Office.
24/5/24, 12:54 pm - +Nic Freehold: This DJ may have saved more lives than we know
24/5/24, 12:54 pm - +Nic Freehold: modern economy is extremely bad for mental health
24/5/24, 12:55 pm - +Nic Freehold: Until we die at pearly gates or reincarnate, we dunno who has done more
24/5/24, 12:55 pm - +Nic Freehold: Dogma or more Deaths?
24/5/24, 12:56 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
He can teach music minus Buddhism teachings.
Because he is a comedian, a musician with little knowledge in Buddhism except quoting some Buddhism verse and mantra.
24/5/24, 12:56 pm - +Rama: Still, wrong approach!
24/5/24, 1:00 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
1. What does Buddhism teach?
2. 4 Noble path - ่ฆ้็ญ้。(Sufferings, Attachment/Cravings, Cessation of Attachment/Cravings, Attain Enlightenment.
3. This DJ teach attachment and cravings in sensory pleasures - that is the root cause of sufferings.
4. Exactly of what Devadatta teach.
5. Totally wrong teachings.
24/5/24, 1:00 pm - +Nic Freehold: Agree, When this Korean monk do wrong punish him.
24/5/24, 1:00 pm - +Nic Freehold: This message was deleted
24/5/24, 1:01 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
He can promote his music and entertainment minus Buddhism teachings.
No need to punish him.
24/5/24, 1:01 pm - +Nic Freehold: But he helped youths find hope in Buddha teachings
24/5/24, 1:01 pm - +Nic Freehold: If not they might have died by suicide
24/5/24, 1:02 pm - +Nic Freehold: let’s look at the good he did
24/5/24, 1:02 pm - +Nic Freehold: 1 of them could invent new medicine to save lives
24/5/24, 1:02 pm - +Nic Freehold: Or new energy
24/5/24, 1:03 pm - +Nic Freehold: why do we still have city harvest church operating after legal cases
24/5/24, 1:03 pm - +Nic Freehold: Moral leanings title towards worshipping money or God
24/5/24, 1:03 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
He can use music to promote goodness and kindness.
But don't dress as monks and no need to quote Buddhism verse.
There are many good things he can promote, be kind, be compassionate, be generous etc.
24/5/24, 1:04 pm - +Rama: Good question @?
24/5/24, 1:04 pm - +Nic Freehold: Are churches TAXED?
24/5/24, 1:04 pm - +Rama: Money!
24/5/24, 1:04 pm - +Nic Freehold: applies to many YouTubers
24/5/24, 1:04 pm - +Rama: Not sure
24/5/24, 1:05 pm - +Nic Freehold: Buddha if he was alive today would use whatever technology of the day to spread his teachings
24/5/24, 1:05 pm - +Nic Freehold: Books were the most modern technology
24/5/24, 1:05 pm - +Rama: If every off main stream is to be accepted, no such thing as a dark Web!?
24/5/24, 1:05 pm - +Nic Freehold: Paper was newish
24/5/24, 1:06 pm - +Nic Freehold: why don’t venerable abbot go to hawker centre, 1 rooms hdb and spread message more often and save lives
24/5/24, 1:06 pm - +Rama: Yes!?
24/5/24, 1:07 pm - +Nic Freehold: God/ Allah/ Buddha: “DO GOOD”
24/5/24, 1:07 pm - +Nic Freehold: it’s always the message
24/5/24, 1:07 pm - +Nic Freehold: save lives
24/5/24, 1:07 pm - +Nic Freehold: Not all of us can be doctors
24/5/24, 1:07 pm - +Nic Freehold: but don’t stop people from becoming 1
24/5/24, 1:08 pm - +Nic Freehold: the Korean parents who lost their child
24/5/24, 1:08 pm - +Nic Freehold: @Danny what do you tell them
24/5/24, 1:09 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
1. Buddhism teach human sufferings are due to 5 poison ่ดชๅ็ดๆ ข็。greed, hatred, ignorance, arrogant, distrust.
2. Enlightenment is attained when the 5 poison are eradicated.
3. And 8 Noble Path - divide into 3 main sections - help to eradicate the 5 poisons.
4. Specifically, Morality, Right Living, Right Mental Practice - Concentration/Mindfulness - are the keys that eradicate the 5 poisons and attain Enlightenment.
5. That DJ breaches the 8 Noble Path. Hence important not to emulate. <This message was edited>
24/5/24, 1:09 pm - +Nic Freehold: An epic housing crisis in the capital area, where nearly half the South Korean population lives, has made matters worse. The average price of an apartment in Seoul has doubled in the past five years under the current government’s misguided policies on mortgage rules and tax penalties. Four years ago, it would have taken 11 years’ worth of South Korea’s median annual household income to buy an apartment in Seoul. Now, it costs more than 18 years’ worth of income. Rents have shot up, leaving young people with limited savings and without a shelter.
The number of people in their 20s experiencing depression has nearly doubled over the past five years. Yet seeking therapy is difficult in a culture that sees it as a sign of weakness. In fact, even though almost 30 percent of South Koreans suffer from mental illnesses like depression
24/5/24, 1:09 pm - +Nic Freehold: In 2040, we may have such problems
24/5/24, 1:10 pm - +Nic Freehold: He didn’t promote alcohol, however our kopitiam auntie or tiger girl promote beers
24/5/24, 1:11 pm - +Nic Freehold: he didn’t promote greed
24/5/24, 1:12 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Greed/Attachment/Cravings - refer to attachment to sensory pleasures - the root cause of sufferings.
24/5/24, 1:13 pm - +Nic Freehold: Agree w all your write
24/5/24, 1:13 pm - +Nic Freehold: I read
24/5/24, 1:13 pm - +Nic Freehold: But do you get my point
24/5/24, 1:13 pm - +Nic Freehold: Suicide is an actual option for some people
24/5/24, 1:13 pm - +Nic Freehold: Recession in China now
24/5/24, 1:13 pm - +Nic Freehold: Some feel hopeless
24/5/24, 1:14 pm - +Nic Freehold: Singapore is booming now
24/5/24, 1:14 pm - +Nic Freehold: but impermanence
24/5/24, 1:15 pm - +Nic Freehold: if our economy goes down and people get depressed and resort to alcohol do you think abbot’s message can reach their hopelessness
24/5/24, 1:15 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
And conduct teachings in a nightclub that promote alcohol is an implicit acceptance of intoxication - where alcohol cause people to get drunk, drive cause accident, intoxicate people mind and unable to acquire clarity in thoughts to attain concentration and mindfulness, cause alcohol poisoning, and cause domestic problems at home.
24/5/24, 1:16 pm - +Nic Freehold: Muslims eat pork these days
24/5/24, 1:16 pm - +Rama: Big issue for hapan
24/5/24, 1:16 pm - +Rama: Japan*
24/5/24, 1:16 pm - +Rama: Really!?
24/5/24, 1:16 pm - +Rama: Expect domestic market to cushion impact
24/5/24, 1:17 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Suicide happens because mental strength is not strong.
Concentration and Mindfulness practice are the mental strength that stop suicide.
24/5/24, 1:18 pm - +Nic Freehold: But how to get the message
24/5/24, 1:19 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ: <Media omitted>
24/5/24, 1:19 pm - +Nic Freehold: Carlsberg promoter wants to sell more beer at coffeeshop which is free entry
24/5/24, 1:19 pm - +Nic Freehold: Nightclub not free entry
24/5/24, 1:19 pm - +Nic Freehold: statistically which is worst
24/5/24, 1:19 pm - +Nic Freehold: Data science
24/5/24, 1:20 pm - +Nic Freehold: nightclub will already sell alcohol without the dj,
24/5/24, 1:20 pm - +Nic Freehold: But because he there, they sell more soft drinks
24/5/24, 1:20 pm - +Nic Freehold: My neighbor uncle buys 2 bottles of beers everyday day
24/5/24, 1:21 pm - +Nic Freehold: This message was deleted
24/5/24, 1:21 pm - +Nic Freehold: Beer peddlers are worst right
24/5/24, 1:21 pm - +Nic Freehold: his pupils look so blur like liver or kidney got problem
24/5/24, 1:23 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
1. Right thought, Right speech, Right actions - are morality practice. (A person thought must be wholesome - 1st and foremost). When thought is right, speech and actions will be right.
2. Right effort, Right livelihood - is the way of life people live. People must live a right, wholesome life.
3. Right Concentration and Right Mindfulness - are mental strength. Concentration ensure focus in everything we do are focus, Mindfulness ensure whatever we think, we say, we do are wholesome and on the right path.
24/5/24, 1:23 pm - +Thank You Woman: Precisely, hence the motive and the underlying reason is the key.
I am a free thinker while patronise Bugis temple and Singapore Buddhist lodge more often.
I had no fear to speak my mind even in Ho Ching Facebook as my thought was upright that she’s in engineering and not to promote the jab as she is not in medical line.
Then I know why she promote cause Temasek had a share.
24/5/24, 1:28 pm - +Nic Freehold: “One in three middle and high school students in Seoul have thought of suicide because of academic burdens and worries over their futures and careers, according to the National Youth Policy Institute. It’s no wonder South Korea nearly tops the ranks in raising the world’s unhappiest children.”
24/5/24, 1:30 pm - +Nic Freehold: https://www.iras.gov.sg/news-events/newsroom/religious-groups-and-commercial-deals
24/5/24, 1:32 pm - +Nic Freehold: https://www.charities.gov.sg/_layouts/15/CPInternet/SearchOrgProfile.aspx?q=MjQxMjUxNzctN2E2NS1lMzExLThmZGEtMDA1MDU2YjMwNDg1
24/5/24, 1:32 pm - +Nic Freehold: <Media omitted>
24/5/24, 1:33 pm - +Nic Freehold: https://www.asiaone.com/singapore/money-love-gifts-went-secret-account
24/5/24, 1:35 pm - +Nic Freehold: After so many cases, can still be CEO?
24/5/24, 1:36 pm - +Rama: ๐คฆ♂️
24/5/24, 1:37 pm - +Frankie Wee: Scam or money for proposal for his wife Ho
24/5/24, 1:37 pm - +Rama: ๐คท♂️
24/5/24, 1:42 pm - +Frankie Wee: https://www.buddhistchannel.tv/index.php?id=57,8600,0,0,1,0
24/5/24, 1:53 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ: <Media omitted>
24/5/24, 1:54 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ: <Media omitted>
24/5/24, 1:56 pm - +Nic Freehold: “regular donations contributed nearly $3 million to the fund from 2006 to 2009.”
This is why scammers target Singaporeans. So easily give money.
And after legal cases, the wife can still be CEO. She used ““more than $300,000 was spent on travel, more than $100,000 on food and close to $100,000 on hair and make-up.”
24/5/24, 1:57 pm - +Nic Freehold: Dogma must solve social problems
24/5/24, 1:57 pm - +Nic Freehold: <Media omitted>
24/5/24, 1:58 pm - +Nic Freehold: How many buddhists achieve this?
24/5/24, 1:58 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Dogma without real understanding will not solve social problems.
Only practice, and become an inherent way of life will solve social problems.
24/5/24, 1:58 pm - +Nic Freehold: agree 100% w you but how can Buddhism reach the crowds lost to pastor sun?
24/5/24, 1:59 pm - +Nic Freehold: Buddhism Taoism was top religion
24/5/24, 1:59 pm - +Nic Freehold: Market share
24/5/24, 1:59 pm - +Nic Freehold: Mind share
24/5/24, 1:59 pm - +Nic Freehold: Thailand is Buddhist country? We agree? Political & social problems how?
24/5/24, 2:00 pm - +REACH: ๐ข *Topic* ๐ข
24/5/24, 2:00 pm - +Nic Freehold: I rather 100 DJ monk then 1 pastor sun
24/5/24, 2:00 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Those who achieve this know he/she achieve this.
His Master and Attained Masters know he/she achieved this.
24/5/24, 2:00 pm - +Nic Freehold: have Venerable Abbot?
24/5/24, 2:01 pm - +Nic Freehold: In census I identify as Buddhist and don’t find it offensive
24/5/24, 2:01 pm - +Nic Freehold: Rather I welcome it as reaching youths or else Buddhism fades away
24/5/24, 2:02 pm - +Nic Freehold: This message was deleted
24/5/24, 2:03 pm - +Nic Freehold: Do we want more old folks or their children hear “if you don’t convert to Christianity, you cannot enter heaven”?
24/5/24, 2:03 pm - +Nic Freehold: the disconnect of religion within families creates friction too
24/5/24, 2:03 pm - +Nic Freehold: have you heard this?
24/5/24, 2:04 pm - +Nic Freehold: evangelicals are increasing their market share
24/5/24, 2:04 pm - +Nic Freehold: Christianity is dominant religion now in public space
24/5/24, 2:04 pm - +Nic Freehold: Christmas is so celebrated
24/5/24, 2:04 pm - +Rama: Rubbish for PM only!
24/5/24, 2:05 pm - +Nic Freehold: recent Vesak do we see malls decorated?
24/5/24, 2:05 pm - +Nic Freehold: Deepavali any malls ?
24/5/24, 2:05 pm - +Nic Freehold: And here we are fighting over a tiny pie
24/5/24, 2:05 pm - +Nic Freehold: Becoming Malaysia?
24/5/24, 2:06 pm - +Rama: Never!
24/5/24, 2:06 pm - +Rama: Agree
24/5/24, 2:06 pm - +Rama: Yes
24/5/24, 2:07 pm - +Nic Freehold: Islam fasting is good for our health. we could be promoting that on minor scale
24/5/24, 2:07 pm - +Nic Freehold: Losing weight and HPB would be happier
24/5/24, 2:07 pm - +Rama: ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐๐ค
24/5/24, 2:08 pm - +Rama: No
24/5/24, 2:08 pm - +Nic Freehold: are we multi religious?
24/5/24, 2:08 pm - +Rama: Little India
24/5/24, 2:08 pm - +Rama: Yes
24/5/24, 2:08 pm - +Rama: Nonsense
24/5/24, 2:09 pm - +Nic Freehold: that’s what their evangelicals used to tell me
24/5/24, 2:09 pm - +Nic Freehold: So offensive! Like they own Heaven
24/5/24, 2:09 pm - +Nic Freehold: Club bouncer is theirs
24/5/24, 2:09 pm - +Rama: Exactly!
24/5/24, 2:18 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Heavens are make up of 3 big planes (and various sub-planes).
Specifically:-
1. Sensual desire heaven (closest to human realms).
2. Form realm heavens.
3. Formless realm heavens.
The heavenly realms are differentiated by their different characteristics and nature plus their respective celestial lifespans.
1. Sensual desire heaven - are heavenly beings that have mainly done good and kindness but have not yet suppress their sensory pleasures - hence sensual desire heavenly realm.
2. Form realm heavens - have suppress their sensory pleasures in conscious form and have done many good and kindness.
3. Formless realm heavens - are the highest heavens - that have suppress the subconscious sensory pleasures and have done many good and kindness.
24/5/24, 2:18 pm - +Nic Freehold: Danny you are not answering what REACH is asking
24/5/24, 2:18 pm - +Nic Freehold: We are a country not a theocracy
24/5/24, 2:19 pm - +Nic Freehold: We are not run by Mullahs
24/5/24, 2:19 pm - +Rama: Thank God!
24/5/24, 2:19 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
This is to answer the question of heaven.
24/5/24, 2:19 pm - +Nic Freehold: Nor Pope or pastor sun
24/5/24, 2:19 pm - +Rama: Yup!
24/5/24, 2:20 pm - +Nic Freehold: how
24/5/24, 2:20 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Because you mention heaven.
24/5/24, 2:27 pm - +Nic Freehold: Finally you directly addressed 1 point. What about the Koreans who lost their youths to suicide. They out clubbing them tot, sigh let’s end it all.
Then DJ w positive message appears
24/5/24, 2:30 pm - +Nic Freehold: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/suicides-reported-singapore-476-2022-highest-more-20-years-3597791
24/5/24, 2:35 pm - +A Slice Of Life: I don’t think these youths who go to club really listen to the teachings of Buddhism through this DJ. This DJ is just trying to raise his profile by being different (I would even say obnoxious) and we must not allow him and the pub owners to use Buddhism as a marketing tool to drive profit.
Let’s respect the Buddhist federation’s decision.
Religions (whatever it may be) teaches us to be good. It’s the super fervent amongst the followers that bring bad name to the religion. <This message was edited>
24/5/24, 2:35 pm - +Rama: Agree
24/5/24, 2:36 pm - +Nic Freehold: @ this is more important than some monk
24/5/24, 2:36 pm - +Nic Freehold: @
24/5/24, 2:37 pm - +Nic Freehold: Hahahahahahah
24/5/24, 2:37 pm - +Nic Freehold: Again you not reading
24/5/24, 2:37 pm - +Rama: Definitely!
24/5/24, 2:37 pm - +Nic Freehold: Halloween has been used to sell drinks and more
24/5/24, 2:38 pm - +Nic Freehold: Buddhist federation isn’t Singapore
24/5/24, 2:38 pm - +Nic Freehold: REACH isn’t under it
24/5/24, 2:38 pm - +Rama: Under cover!
24/5/24, 2:39 pm - +Nic Freehold: Everything is relative. As you mentioned it’s the fervent followers who spoil name.
24/5/24, 2:40 pm - +Nic Freehold: Yet has the archbishop condemned and asked for CHC to be changed from church to events company?
24/5/24, 2:40 pm - +Nic Freehold: @ we lost 476 Singaporeans
24/5/24, 2:40 pm - +Nic Freehold: some could be saved
24/5/24, 2:40 pm - +Nic Freehold: Dogma stops us?
24/5/24, 2:42 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
These are different attained level of consciousness regardless of physical form.
24/5/24, 2:46 pm - +Nic Freehold: based on this and all your above we would not have MBS and the side benefits it brought us
24/5/24, 2:47 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
1. Sensual desire heaven - possess human desire but beyond human goodness and kindness.
2. Form realm heavens - Rupa Jhana consciousness with goodness and kindness.
3. Formless realm heavens - Arupa Jhana consciousness with goodness and kindness.
With this consciousness - if still in human form, mental consciousness prevail.
If pass away, he/she will enter the respective realms according to his/her consciousness.
Note :- Nirvana consciousness is none of these realms. <This message was edited>
24/5/24, 2:47 pm - +Rama: Legal gambling is not needed!
24/5/24, 2:47 pm - +Nic Freehold: Also what’s your position on pastor sun?
24/5/24, 2:48 pm - +Nic Freehold: China wine music video much debauchery
24/5/24, 2:49 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Btw who is pastor sun?
24/5/24, 2:49 pm - +A Slice Of Life: I also think she uses religion as a marketing tool and only work to enrich herself.
24/5/24, 2:50 pm - +Rama: City Harvest Church CEO
24/5/24, 2:50 pm - +Nic Freehold: OMG!
24/5/24, 2:50 pm - +A Slice Of Life: Korean Buddhist DJ can post his performance in you tube. Nothing to stop him
24/5/24, 2:51 pm - +Nic Freehold: @Danny I am trying to have a 2 way conversation.
24/5/24, 2:52 pm - +Nic Freehold: Singapore has shown even after financial crimes and some jailed uncovered, the organisation can still operate.
24/5/24, 2:53 pm - +Nic Freehold: She had a saucy music album and songs and lived glamourous life in Beverly Hills
24/5/24, 2:54 pm - +Nic Freehold: She dunno where the money came from?
24/5/24, 2:54 pm - +Rama: Behind the scenes manipulation!?
24/5/24, 2:55 pm - +Rama: 10% tithes from all church members
24/5/24, 2:55 pm - +Nic Freehold: yet 1 DJ who hasn’t stolen a single cent is to be banned?
24/5/24, 2:57 pm - +Rama: Controversial outfit!
24/5/24, 2:57 pm - +Rama: Very vulgar!
24/5/24, 2:58 pm - +Nic Freehold: Yet she is CEO of a church
24/5/24, 2:58 pm - +Nic Freehold: Not the irony
24/5/24, 2:58 pm - +Nic Freehold: He is visiting foreigner
24/5/24, 2:59 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Regardless of whether a person is a Buddhist, Christian, a free thinker etc - is based on what he or she thinks, speak or do.
What he/she thinks, speak or do will result in karma - good, bad or neutral.
It is the collections of karma, the person resultant consciousness and the volition determine where the person goes - in heaven or lower realm.
24/5/24, 3:00 pm - +Rama: Nonetheless!
24/5/24, 3:00 pm - +Rama: Agree
24/5/24, 3:01 pm - +Rama: Wrong!
24/5/24, 3:01 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
ไธ่ฌๅธฆไธ่ตฐ，ๅฏๆไธ้่บซๅ。
Nothing can be brought along when a person passed away, only karma will follow a person like his/her shadow.
24/5/24, 3:02 pm - +Rama: Only your soul!
24/5/24, 3:02 pm - +Timothy Weer: Perhaps there is a back story as to why the role CEO was chosen. After all, because of the law in SG, religious bodies are simultaneously charities as well as religious institutions
24/5/24, 3:03 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Basically the consciousness.
24/5/24, 3:03 pm - +Timothy Weer: Maybe asking the church why is better than getting upset here about a title and making it seem absurd when there could be reasons?
24/5/24, 3:03 pm - +Rama: Like!?
24/5/24, 3:03 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
In quantum physics, this can be proven in superposition qubits and quantum entanglement.
24/5/24, 3:05 pm - +Timothy Weer: <Media omitted>
24/5/24, 3:07 pm - +Rama: Will beat around the Bush type answer!
24/5/24, 3:07 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Many religions lump the heavens as one heaven.
Buddhism break the heavenly realms into discrete planes and sub-planes according to the various consciousness.
Note :- what I mention here are broad 3 planes.
There are still many sub-planes depending on which consciousness are dominant and sublime.
24/5/24, 3:07 pm - +Timothy Weer: Maybe you should call them to find out instead of guessing what kind of answer they will give you?
24/5/24, 3:21 pm - +Nic Freehold: https://www.charities.gov.sg/_layouts/15/CPInternet/SearchOrgProfile.aspx?q=MjQxMjUxNzctN2E2NS1lMzExLThmZGEtMDA1MDU2YjMwNDg1
24/5/24, 3:22 pm - +Nic Freehold: Same could said w DJ monk
24/5/24, 3:23 pm - +Rama: Not even a one million petition will get her to step down!
24/5/24, 3:24 pm - +Frankie Wee: Website removed
24/5/24, 3:25 pm - +Nic Freehold: It’s there
24/5/24, 3:26 pm - +Nic Freehold: Ho Yeow Sun
24/5/24, 3:26 pm - +Timothy Weer: I'm sure the Buddhist Federation has already articulated their concerns. As a singaporean who respects all religious authorities to represent their group responsibily, it's entirely their right to say what they find offensive.
Maybe if you feel strongly about it, you should let the Buddhist federation know about your feedback.
24/5/24, 3:27 pm - +Frankie Wee: Yeah just refresh website again appear
24/5/24, 3:28 pm - +~l or Smiley face: Mocking the Monks?
In whatsoever expressions or styles...
The DJ monk controversy offers a thought provoking example of the tensions that arise when tradition and modernity intersect. The criticism aimed at the Buddhist monk, who combined traditional attire with DJing activities, underscores the need for thoughtful dialogue and understanding in navigating the complexities of cultural (cyber) revolution. By approaching these issues with sensitivity, nuance, and cultural intelligence, we can weave a rich tapestry of creativity, innovation, and heritage, where diverse elements harmoniously coexist and enrich our collective human experience.
24/5/24, 3:33 pm - +~l or Smiley face: This message was deleted
24/5/24, 3:33 pm - +~l or Smiley face: "Art is the mirror of society, and society is the mirror of art. Let's create a reflection that is respectful, inclusive, and empowering for all." Are we conservative at heart and mind and behaving likely as liberals?"
-- anonymity
24/5/24, 3:37 pm - +Frankie Wee: I just to want dance an exercise when mind and body are positive than sit when worship.
24/5/24, 3:38 pm - +Frankie Wee: Mind can feeling expression
24/5/24, 3:47 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Nirvana realm is:-
1. No mundane stray thoughts arising. (Desire plane heaven) (ๆฌฒ็ๅคฉ)
2. No suppression of consciousness - Rupa Jhana. (Form plane heaven) (่ฒ็ๅคฉ)
3. No suppression of sublime subconsciousness - Arupa Jhana. (Formless plane heaven ๅบ่ฒ็ๅคฉ)
ไธ่ตทๅฟๅจๅฟต。
(No stray thoughts arising)
ไธๅฟไธไนฑ， ๅฆๅฆไธๅจ。
(Serenity, Silencing of Consciousness) - Eternal Bliss.
Since no stray thoughts - no Karma.
Hence Nirvana has no celestial lifespans.
An Eternal Realm - of No Birth, No Death, No Sufferings - Eternal Bliss. <This message was edited>
24/5/24, 3:48 pm - +Rama: Zumba!?
24/5/24, 3:52 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
All lives are about "Consciousness".
And quantum physics - specifically qubits, superposition, quantum entanglement, spooky action in a distance, etc
Increasingly can prove the existence of multiverse, parallel universe - the entanglement of birth, living, aged and death coexistence simultaneously in different realms.
All these are consciousness in metaphysics.
And in quantum physics - they are represented by atomic, subatomic, photons etc.
24/5/24, 4:00 pm - +REACH: ๐ข *Topic* ๐ข
24/5/24, 4:06 pm - +SL: Is Club Rich deposited a reasonable amount of sum with authority to guarantee there is no violation? In case there are many follow-up lawsuits?
24/5/24, 4:08 pm - +~X-tra: A little off topic here but what a conclusion to this case ๐ค
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/lee-hsien-yang-defamation-ridout-road-200000-damages-each-shanmugam-vivian-balakrishnan-4360466
24/5/24, 4:08 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Where Universe is chaos, subject to change, birth, living, aged and demise, rebirth - where change is constant, where Universal Law of Impermanence prevails.
Have lifespan.
Its opposing realm is Nirvana - Bliss, Eternal, Permanence is Constant, no birth, no death, no sufferings. No lifespan. <This message was edited>
24/5/24, 4:09 pm - +Rama: SM LHL should make peace with his siblings now that he is no longer PM!
24/5/24, 4:11 pm - +~l or Smiley face: "As we stand at the global crossroads, the trajectory of our future hangs in the balance. The world is grappling with unprecedented challenges, from economic uncertainty to geopolitical tensions, social inequality, and environmental degradation. Amidst this turmoil, hopes and fears collide, fueling a sense of uncertainty that permeates every aspect of our lives. As Jacques Chirac aptly put it, "The world is at a crossroads, and the choice is ours." Isn't it profoundly true?"
-- anonymity
24/5/24, 4:12 pm - +~l or Smiley face: Art has long been a reflection of society, capturing the essence of our human experience through various mediums. In Singapore, our artistic expression has evolved over time, shaped by our cultural, social, and political context. From traditional lion dances to contemporary street art, our multicultural heritage is a kaleidoscope of diverse traditions and innovations. We see this in the works of our master painters like Liu Kang and Georgette Chen, who captured the essence of our multicultural heritage through their bold brushstrokes, and in the contemporary artists like Ho Tzu Nyen and Amanda Heng, who are pushing the boundaries of artistic expression, exploring new mediums and themes that reflect our rapidly changing world.
24/5/24, 4:18 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Heart ❤️
is the Unifying Force of all Religions.
Every Religions will use (Heart), as expressions of Compassion to all Beings.
24/5/24, 4:24 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ: <Media omitted>
24/5/24, 4:43 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Some are due to mental illness - eg. Depression.
This will need psychiatrist treatment of mental health, plus medication.
Together with meditation to strengthen their mental strength - specifically Right Concentration and Right Mindfulness - will help to cure or manage depression.
24/5/24, 4:45 pm - +Rama: I know of one case personally at the moment! Very Sad but the person is still alive suffering!๐คฆ♂️๐๐ข
24/5/24, 4:45 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Note:- fully depending on mental practice through Mental strength may not always succeed - because there could be chemical imbalance in the brain.
Hence psychiatrist treatment is needed.
24/5/24, 4:46 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Better send the person to psychiatrist for treatment.
It can be treated and get well.
24/5/24, 4:46 pm - +Nic Freehold: Robin Williams suffered but no one would know because it doesn’t show
24/5/24, 4:47 pm - +Rama: Was in IMH for two months recently but on long term medication prior to the extend ended up in SGH in time due to water in the brain!
24/5/24, 4:48 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Someone close to him can tell.
Because he will feel sad all the time, display negativity, sometimes talk about suicide, crying for no reasons etc
24/5/24, 4:48 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Yes.
Get medical treatment for serious case.
24/5/24, 4:50 pm - +Rama: Female Chinese in her early forties, married with no kids. Husband couldn't take it and is now also on long term medication!
24/5/24, 4:51 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Hmm..
They will need medical help.
Plus professional support.
The illness can be managed.
Most important develop positivity, and mental strength.
Meditation can help build up the mental strength.
24/5/24, 4:52 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Also if have religious faith - will also help them to build positivity.
24/5/24, 4:56 pm - +Frankie Wee: Mental health and depression
24/5/24, 4:57 pm - +Rama: I sincerely hope so. Her only consolation is her elder sister and husband who is my brother in law who visit her in IMH/SGH. Brought up my grandmother so no bond with mother. She asked her mother to look after her but her 74 year old mother said how! Told elder sister she never wants to see her mother again! Elder brother late fortiesand spouse early retired millionaire but not pro active towards suffering younger sister!? Younger brother and spouse in UK.
24/5/24, 4:58 pm - +Frankie Wee: https://www.healthhub.sg/live-healthy/helping-youth-fight-depression
24/5/24, 4:58 pm - +Frankie Wee: Hope it’s helpful won’t be alone.
24/5/24, 5:00 pm - +Frankie Wee: Adult sometime work very challenging with colleagues foreigners when he become depression and anxiety
24/5/24, 5:01 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Family support important for the patients to recover.
Love will help them to recover faster.
Always encourage to look at bright sides of things and not dwell into negativity or hopelessness.
Also don't attach, cling or crave on things that a person cannot possess.
Learn to let go and be happy.
Only a person can make himself or herself happy - by not feeling sad or hopeless.
There is always a way out of hopelessness.
24/5/24, 5:01 pm - +Rama: Cyber bullying another suicide avenue!
24/5/24, 5:01 pm - +Frankie Wee: True
24/5/24, 5:02 pm - +Frankie Wee: Why not stay thinking positive live well and think of family rather than job opportunities.
24/5/24, 5:03 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Cyberspace is just a space - if feel bully, can ignore the bullies or don't read what they say.
24/5/24, 5:04 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Can look at to e2i for help to find jobs.
No need to get despair.
There will always be a way out.
24/5/24, 5:04 pm - +Frankie Wee: Not easy when person feeling sensitive and harmful himself
24/5/24, 5:04 pm - +Frankie Wee: Avoid trouble or gossip bad things happened
24/5/24, 5:05 pm - +Rama: Not necessarily possible. Just like driving, how careful you are, someone will hit you!
24/5/24, 5:05 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
That's why mental strength and mental resiliency very important.
Mental strength can be trained.
Meditation is the best practice to attain mental strength and develop positivity.
24/5/24, 5:06 pm - +Frankie Wee: Myself fact foreigner think is too highly political indeed than local when asked more pay salary.
24/5/24, 5:07 pm - +Frankie Wee: I had stay positive that’s right ignore and focus on it.
24/5/24, 5:17 pm - +A Slice Of Life: Anyone know of a good meditation centre that is not religion based?
24/5/24, 5:21 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Meditation 2 important elements is to develop:-
1. Concentration - very focus mind.
2. Mindfulness - that is able to be mindful of every thought, speech and actions (and even body sensation).
As long as these 2 attributes are trained on, enormous transformation can happen to a person.
It is not related to religion - but a practice.
But there are 2 names attached to these 2 types of meditation.
1. Anapanasati meditation (concentration meditation) - breath meditation.
2. Vipassana meditation - mindfulness meditation.
24/5/24, 5:22 pm - +~ S.: Sorry to tell you but I did my research and up to 50% of the suicides are due to medication. From 2000-04, 51% saw a doc before they died and were prescribed psychiatric medication. <This message was edited>
24/5/24, 5:22 pm - +Rama: Both sounds religious based!?
24/5/24, 5:23 pm - +Rama: Might happen to the case close to me!
24/5/24, 5:23 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
It is :-
1. Meditation on the in and out of the breath.
2. Mindfulness meditation of the thoughts and body sensation.
Not related to religion.
But a practice.
24/5/24, 5:24 pm - +Rama: Seems related to Hinduism!?
24/5/24, 5:27 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Hmm...
Hinduism, Taoism and Buddhism practice this.
I think alot of the western countries also now practice this.
I think Ng Kok song, a Catholic also practice this.
Both SM LeeHL, Khaw Boon Wan also practice this.
Khaw Boon Wan recommend LKY to practice these 2 meditation to Ng Kok Song and a Catholic archbishop using the same techniques.
24/5/24, 5:28 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
US, UK, Australia, Canada and many EU countries conducting such meditation courses worldwide.
24/5/24, 5:28 pm - +Rama: Being a Roman Catholic, even Christian Meditation is doubtful!
24/5/24, 5:37 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ: <Media omitted>
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24/5/24, 5:38 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Even SkillFuture also sponsor mindfulness course.
Can Google search.
Not related to religion.
It is a practice.
24/5/24, 5:39 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Worldwide, many meditation centres teach mindfulness meditation.
24/5/24, 5:50 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
As a beginner, try not to go online meditation.
Go for a teacher.
Because you will encounter some obstacles along the way.
A teacher will be able to guide you and correct your mistake.
However, you need alot of patience and discipline to master the meditation.
24/5/24, 5:51 pm - +Rama: Does wsq have courses that help with anger management issues which I think is a contributing factor?
24/5/24, 5:52 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Hahaha..
I guess if you search the website, it will have.
But right mental techniques is paramount to anger management.
24/5/24, 5:56 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Mindfulness is the best mental techniques that manage anger management.
Because if anger thought are mindful, how will anger manifest?
It will dissipate and anger is gone.
Likewise, breath management - is also a technique to dissipate anger.
24/5/24, 6:47 pm - +REACH: *Dear Contributors,*
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Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Goodnight!
Megan ๐
24/5/24, 6:48 pm - +Rama: Course title?
24/5/24, 6:49 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Mindfulness meditation.
24/5/24, 6:49 pm - +Rama: Thanks.
24/5/24, 6:50 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
The actual name is Vipassana meditation or Insight Meditation.
24/5/24, 6:50 pm - +Rama: Just a query, would anger management courses help mitigate certain road rage offences?
24/5/24, 6:50 pm - +Rama: ๐๐๐๐ค
24/5/24, 6:50 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Anger is the manifestation of the mind.
If mindful of anger, anger will dissipate.
24/5/24, 6:51 pm - +Rama: I have been asking government this through reach email for some time now to see if it can be part of sentencing option for the courts!?
24/5/24, 6:56 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Anger management is a lifelong training.
It needs mindfulness every thought, every moment.
Hence develop good patience and tolerance.
24/5/24, 6:57 pm - +~l or Smiley face: https://www.tiktok.com/@mothershipsg/video/7372120910708444417
24/5/24, 6:58 pm - +Rama: This message was deleted
24/5/24, 6:58 pm - +Rama: Applicable in certain countries!?
24/5/24, 6:58 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Applicable to every human beings.
24/5/24, 6:59 pm - +~l or Smiley face: This message was deleted
24/5/24, 6:59 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
If human beings are a master of their mind, there will be no conflict, no war.
World will be at peace.
24/5/24, 7:01 pm - +~l or Smiley face: <Media omitted>
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