Monday, March 25, 2024

REACH 555 -  What are your views on the support initiatives aimed at mid-career workers aged 40 and above? How can we continue to ensure that our workers remain relevant in the competitive labour market? 

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25 Mar 2024 (10am - 7pm)


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25/3/24, 10:00 am - +REACH: 📢 *Topic* 📢

In 2023, fewer people took part in training programmes supported by Skills-Future Singapore (SSG), compared to the year before. At the same time, there was an increase in employers sponsoring their workers for training.

Mr Tan Kok Yam, chief executive of SSG, mentioned that the increase in companies sending their workers for training, “shows an increasingly collective commitment to lifelong learning, across the ecosystem of employers, workers and training providers”.

💬 *What are your views on the support initiatives aimed at mid-career workers aged 40 and above? How can we continue to ensure that our workers remain relevant in the competitive labour market?* 

📌 _*Mid-Career workers:*_ 

Mr. Tan expressed expectations for increased participation among workers aged 40 and above as additional support, such as the SkillsFuture Level-Up Programme introduced in Budget 2024, becomes available for mid-career individuals. The SkillsFuture Career Transition Programme courses increased to 180 courses in 2023 compared to 82 in 2022, with approximately 3,700 participants. As announced in Budget 2024 initiatives, mid-career workers are set to receive a $4,000 SkillsFuture credit top-up and subsidies for pursuing full-time diplomas at various institutions. Moreover, individuals aged 40 and above enrolling in selected full-time courses from 2025 will receive a monthly training allowance to mitigate income loss from time off work.

📌 *_Utilisation of SkillsFuture credits:_*

Utilisation of SkillsFuture credits remained prevalent, with 192,000 individuals out of the total 520,000 participants in 2023 using their credits. Courses in digital, food and beverage, and safety sectors garnered the highest participation rates, indicating a demand for skills relevant to these industries. Moving forward, SSG aims to offer more courses in emerging industries and maintain high-quality, impactful training to enhance workforce capabilities and contributions.

👉 [ST] https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/skillsfuture-participation-drops-in-2023-despite-increased-employer-engagement

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25/3/24, 10:16 am - +Sunny: People are already overworked as it is in several, if not most, fields of work. I understand Singapore needs to remain competitive and the potentials of different fields of work do change fast, with regards to demand, supply, global influences, etc. But seriously, we only have 24 hours a day. Even policies like WFH is not encouraged / available everywhere. People are getting tired of trying to survive, especially with rising cost. To expect them to take on more courses instead of looking after their own health, family and other aspects of their lives is horrible. That's also why less people are having kids and getting married also - there's no time!

It's a good initiative for sure, and necessary for those who are otherwise going to face job loss. But we need to think about how the average person actually has time for this.

25/3/24, 10:22 am - +Ducky: These initiatives are 👍! Personally I am thinking about taking cyber security courses with the top ups. It’s always good to upskill and stay ahead.

25/3/24, 10:33 am - +Smiley face: "If you are anxious about your future, you should act on it whether it is your job security or your finances, and change your usual ways of doing things. If you are not worrying over your future, you should start thinking if you are all right. And don't overly worry over nothing, if you are feeling 'over-the-hill' then you should start changing your mindset!"

-- anonymity

25/3/24, 10:43 am - +Frankie Wee: Worrying about future generations technology advance change. Then action enrolment it and take upskill

Nothing worry just normally to take upgrade and stay employability

25/3/24, 10:44 am - +Frankie Wee: Make the change is something new era technology advances. Take advantage or disadvantage old and new

25/3/24, 10:46 am - +Kenneth Lee WM: >In 2023, fewer people took part in training programmes supported by Skills-Future Singapore (SSG), compared to the year before.

The interpretation of the statistics is flawed.  The previous skills future credits spanned a couple of years since Covid.  By 2022, everyone used up their credits leaving almost nothing for 2023.  Hence, no one signed up for anything in 2023.

Having said above, skills future credits are a good thing to keep the population learning.  Either to improve job prospects or to stave off dementia.

Without skills future, I would never have learnt how to fly /land an Airbus in a simulator. <This message was edited>

25/3/24, 10:48 am - +Rama: Could be the reason why higher employers take up rate!?

25/3/24, 10:56 am - +Ducky: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/iswaran-8-fresh-charges-court-lum-kok-seng-brompton-bicycle-whisky-lta-contractor-4218961

25/3/24, 10:56 am - +Ducky: I am intrigued by iswaran’s case and think it is a more interesting topic to discuss! 😂😂😂

25/3/24, 10:56 am - +Ducky: Side track a bit! REACH don’t mind ah.

25/3/24, 11:17 am - +SL: This message was deleted

25/3/24, 11:18 am - +SL: In a complex business environment, job tasks constantly change, and business process reengineering and organisation restructuring put workers' carrier futures in uncertainty; these changes are always driven by business profit. We need to maintain our value to an organisation or risks in relocation, using the skills future fund to learn relevant new skills, provided by the government is one of the best solutions.

25/3/24, 11:27 am - +Smiley face: SL, just to add on to your insights....

In SG, our core skillsets perhaps are services and less of manufacturing other than the HITECH manufacturing that constantly requires upgrading because of innovations and newer technologies.

As a contingent, our workforce is excelling at the front of services and we need to continue to build our existing knowledge and transform ourselves into a new knowledge bank or else  SG will lose its relevancy to MNEs and thereafter, our International and global appeal as one bright spot of hopes for tomorrow will diminish quicker than switching off the lights!

Therefore, it is paramount for our Policy of learning, upgrading and employability to encompass all existential contests, opportunities and in the unavoidable external threats and influences out of the backdrop of geo tensions and unstable trading environments from Germany to China and onto US and Japan! These four big economies will have a big impact on smaller nations not confiding in SG but to ASEAN as "one trading house!"

25/3/24, 11:29 am - +~.@: i utilized all my balance to fund my part time masters studies. granted its not a "core skill" but it was funded partially.

25/3/24, 11:29 am - +Smiley face: <Media omitted>


25/3/24, 11:31 am - ☸️  Danny 心: 

"Why Singapore Employees Need To Be Ready For Retrenchment In 2024".

https://dollarsandsense.sg/business/why-singapore-employees-need-to-be-ready-for-retrenchment-in-2024/#:~:text=Why%20Singapore%20Employees%20Need%20To%20Be%20Ready%20For%20Retrenchment%20In%202024


25/3/24, 11:31 am - ☸️  Danny 心: 

More middle managers are being laid off, Working Life - THE BUSINESS TIMES.

https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/working-life/more-middle-managers-are-being-laid


25/3/24, 11:34 am - ☸️  Danny 心: 

Correction:-

If fund transfer is between FAST participating banks - in which OCBC and DBS are - fund transfer is immediate and cannot reverse.

For non participating banks in FAST transfer - it is pending - "maybe able to reverse". Pse check with MAS.

For Swift transfer - is not immediate - "maybe able to reverse" - pse check with MAS.


25/3/24, 11:34 am - ☸️  Danny 心: <Media omitted>

25/3/24, 11:34 am - ☸️  Danny 心: <Media omitted>


25/3/24, 11:45 am - +SL: Service quality is of the utmost importance in services. Knowledge workers shall explore the possibility of human-machine partnerships in the future to maintain competitive advantages in job markets; in doing so new skills are required for following generation workers. Depending on the industry, a new basic skill set is needed, yielding results as I'm experimenting with it.

25/3/24, 11:47 am - +SL: human–machine partnership or collaborations (HMP or HMC).

25/3/24, 11:50 am - +Smiley face: How not to be FIRED? ( besides upgrading skills)

It's all about People to People relationships!

At the bottom of the corporate ladder are the abundance of workers who work day in and day out as implementers of core Duties and Responsibilities.

Up the ladder to the next floor of workers are the Managers who overlooking below the work floor (aka workflow). These managers are the group leaders that ensure the flow of operations as required by the management (aka bosses).

The pinnacle of any organisation is the management of the firm! Here at the top floor (aka strategy and policy). These top bosses have what many described as the key attribute that is great communicator! Arguely, millions of folks would say, " talk the walk and at times cannot walk"?

The truth is communication is the hidden key to Success at any FLOOR of work and most importantly, isn't it human to human to get along or facing conflicts and confrontations! And that's the kicker in losing your job! Isn't it true?

25/3/24, 12:02 pm - +Smiley face: SL, this partial essay in the making, ...hope we can find deeper meanings and apply to our Skillsfuture which is one important resource for our SG survivable! And to survive is just not good enough....! Why so?

25/3/24, 12:05 pm - +Smiley face: " The Short & The Long And The Survivability Of Nation"

The exportability of a country's goods and services is a quarter of its GDP equation. The key enabling factors are productivity, wages,  importation of raw materials, and land. One major asset in the equation of a country's GDP performance is its national savings rates, both public and private. The flip side of savings is debts; the ratio of a nation's debts vs. savings is one early sign of future financial liquidity. This critical ratio, if compared across regions, international and globally, we will realise the propensity for growth and the overall GDP of each nation, region, and the world consumptions and the depth of debts. It will have a profound impact on the nation with higher than ordinary debt to enable more competitiveness in driving its economy on high gears than lower its expectations of growth on a year to year basis.


25/3/24, 12:21 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

1. This SkillFuture support initiative is meant for 40 years and above.

2. It is a good time for workers of such age group to go for retraining to keep the skill updated.

3. Because those in late 20s and 30s will have just graduated from Universities, Polytechnics or ITEs and the skillsets are up to date.

4. 40 years and above, the knowledge could be overtaken by new development. Especially so with proliferation of AI.

5. Also 40 years and above, couples will already have married with children - in teens or grown up. Less demanding of parents time in babysitting.

6. More time for upskilling. <This message was edited>


25/3/24, 12:23 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

7. Mature workers 40 years and above face the real challenge of obsolescence if not upskill.

8. In addition, this age group workers usually will have accumulated higher pay than fresh graduates with up to date skills.

9. So it face a real possibility of being replaced if this age group don't go for retraining.


25/3/24, 12:39 pm - +Frankie Wee: Middles group have an ability experience with their resume previously job.

Can be possible acknowledgment quality of work

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25/3/24, 12:42 pm - +Smiley face: This message was deleted

25/3/24, 12:43 pm - +Smiley face: That's one truth, Frankie, thanks!

25/3/24, 12:43 pm - +Smiley face: Fast, Faster and Fastest?

With the fast response from Digitisation itself has shortened the number of productive years of workers from level up to senior managers!

The attrition rates of individuals can be expressed in the mathematical language of differential and simultaneous progression. The starting point is 20 years to 45 years of age.

Another variation and a further refinement of the standard deviation against the Z point as expressed on the above mathematical model. The SD can be up to 1.5 from the nearest Z.

That's to say, the unemployment rates or the ratio of Retrenchment cohort will bend towards age 50 and older. 

It's not a simple challenge nor is it any easy HR  hiring model or mathematically expressed in hope to achieve symmetrical outcome on a normal distribution of labor out of age group followed by skillsets, sector by sector. And not to forget to include wages across age groups and the average length of service.


25/3/24, 12:44 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

17. Example, previously, all IT staff are train in mainframe. With the advent of network, come server-client computing. Mainframe skills obsolete overnight. Those staff who refused to be retrained in LAN and insist on mainframe have to leave the organisation.

18. When network LAN become mature with Novell NetWare, bayan vines - Internet come on board using TCP/IP. IPX and banyan vines become obsolete overnight. IT staff got to retrain in TCP IP.

19. Previously, cell-based ATM tech is a reliable network standard for Telco and LAN. But Gigabit Ethernet come out and ATM go out of existence.

20. Previously, system integrator have a field day setting up network, servers and systems. Now server virtualisation and cloud computing take over system integration.

Imagine if IT staff don't go for constant skills upgrading - can survive in IT industry?


25/3/24, 12:46 pm - +Smiley face: In the future (not so far off), perhaps the business of Cloud computing and facilities will be stationed at Johore? Cheaper?


25/3/24, 12:46 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 21. 

Now AI and quantum computing - are the 2 earth shakers.


25/3/24, 12:46 pm - +Rama: A real possibility!

25/3/24, 12:46 pm - +Frankie Wee: It’s can be human error if company do not upgrade system and release new standard version

25/3/24, 12:47 pm - +Smiley face: Nvidia+ YTL @Johore

25/3/24, 12:48 pm - +Smiley face: GAI will weet it out. !


25/3/24, 12:51 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

Cloud computing can be anywhere in the world, India, China, US, not necessarily Johor.

Knowledge and skillsets are the criteria.

Anyway, Singapore has among the highest concentration of data centres and cloud computing in the world.

Because of political stability, good IT infrastructure, good IT talents, cybersecurity, AI talents, no flooding and earthquake, reliable power supply with no power disruption, relatively attractive cost vis-a-vis quality etc.

Not just only cost. <This message was edited>


25/3/24, 12:51 pm - +Smiley face: Concept Time:

"If human wisdom is derived from past experiences then all experiences from the worst to the best can be compressed into Q-format  feeding into algorithmic patterns to strive for better outcomes or in human sense, better experience of the future to be!"

That's maybe an early indicator of future success, for more powerful than the metrics of KPI ? True or Imagine?


25/3/24, 12:52 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

In the few continents, US, EU, Asia Pacific - Singapore is an alternative Data Centre Hub (Cloud Computing) - because of all the factors I have identified above.


25/3/24, 12:54 pm - +SL: The cloud data centre will go anywhere with cheap electricity, cheap land cost and reasonably secure physical security.

25/3/24, 12:55 pm - +Smiley face: Both situations will have different long-term cost structures and trajectories of growth. In the mid-term, a lower cost based manufacturing  will outperform a higher cost manufacturer. The tipping points are new technology, innovation, and higher productivity from improvements of productions which will redefine and lower the costs of production to the Z point which in statistical terms means inside the overall industry cost depicted in less than one standard deviation against your competitors.

25/3/24, 12:55 pm - +Smiley face: SL, pls take note! Thanks.

25/3/24, 12:57 pm - +SL: Not sure if the chips from Nvidia, will continue monopolizing the market for the next foreseensable future?


25/3/24, 12:57 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

Alternative Data Centre Hub - notably Skorea, Taiwan, HK, Japan - all have their challenges.

Eg. Geopolitical tensions, domestic security, earthquake, tsunamis.

Hence the best site is Singapore.

But we must be constantly on the toe and ensure our IT talents are updated and proficient in latest skillsets - that are not easily replaceable.


25/3/24, 12:57 pm - +Jimmy Chew: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/singaporean-doctor-in-britain-receives-honorary-knighthood-for-role-in-fight-against-covid-19

25/3/24, 12:58 pm - +Jimmy Chew: Our educational system and the medical institution pays off

25/3/24, 12:58 pm - +Smiley face: Not sustainable, pls watch for the US to intervene into this monopolistic competitor! Pls reexamine how US broke the Japanese competitiveness in the later part of 1980s

25/3/24, 12:59 pm - +Smiley face: Intel, a potential disruptor? And followed by three more players!

25/3/24, 1:00 pm - +Smiley face: <Media omitted>

25/3/24, 1:00 pm - +Smiley face: Andrew....any insights? Thanks.


25/3/24, 1:00 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: <Media omitted>


25/3/24, 1:01 pm - +Rama: Well done and congrats

25/3/24, 1:01 pm - +Frankie Wee: Let me share there are two mindset has different each of them quality:

One middle group has straight ability career and experience resume and he/she far vision achieved reach goal income.

One not has take upskill future quality and not well being educated level. He or she has skill cooking hawker foods and make quickly bucks every dollars with long hours.

25/3/24, 1:02 pm - +Frankie Wee: Short cut make Singapore lose tax business

25/3/24, 1:03 pm - +SL: AI chips, are a new frontier that all big semiconductor companies aim for profit, The market-consuming AI chips also affect the growth of semicon companies producing AI chips.

25/3/24, 1:04 pm - +Smiley face: No worries!

When someone short cuts, you cut short the deal! Let's think deeper!

25/3/24, 1:04 pm - +Smiley face: A deep pocket game of changes!

25/3/24, 1:04 pm - +SL: Electricity, land cost are some key factors on data centre setup

25/3/24, 1:04 pm - +Frankie Wee: 3nm chip the ultra thinnest world

25/3/24, 1:05 pm - +Smiley face: Less please! By 2025!

25/3/24, 1:05 pm - +Frankie Wee: China successfully make it own self

25/3/24, 1:05 pm - +Rama: The original idea was a sea crossing which will never materialise due to environmental issues astronomical  costs! The land crossing seems cheaper but probability bearing fruit still needs indepth study.

25/3/24, 1:05 pm - +Smiley face: Hope so....

25/3/24, 1:06 pm - +SL: The study cases with Japan + Franch companies…

25/3/24, 1:06 pm - +Smiley face: Thailand is going full steam!


25/3/24, 1:07 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

True.

But not the main determining factors.


25/3/24, 1:07 pm - +Smiley face: Yes, Japanese are more hopeful! They are old hands in the electronics realms.

25/3/24, 1:07 pm - +Rama: Hope our foresight for tuas megaport overrides this!

25/3/24, 1:07 pm - +Smiley face: The future of Cloud center will be lean and slim!


25/3/24, 1:09 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

"Singapore’s data-centre market to surpass 1GW milestone, challenges ahead: Cushman & Wakefield"

 https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/startups-tech/startups/singapores-data-centre-market-surpass-1gw-milestone-challenges-ahead-cushman#:~:text=Singapore%E2%80%99s%20data%2Dcentre%20market%20to%20surpass%201GW%20milestone%2C%20challenges%20ahead%3A%20Cushman%20%26%20Wakefield


25/3/24, 1:09 pm - +SL: 3nm is not monopolized with EUV; some folks discovered other means to achieve 3nm with DUV, which long ago industry said only EUV could do. 🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️ what is the reality? 🤣

25/3/24, 1:09 pm - +SL: Study said with duv 😱

25/3/24, 1:12 pm - +SL: Canal may lead to security issue…maybe.

25/3/24, 1:13 pm - +SL: With new materials, a data center might not be necessary in a building on land….

25/3/24, 1:14 pm - +Smiley face: Outer space!

25/3/24, 1:17 pm - +SL: 👍, also underground, deep sea, sky, near orbit, maybe miniaturised 🤷‍♂️

25/3/24, 1:17 pm - +Smiley face: Deep sea risks a higher level of sabotage?

25/3/24, 1:19 pm - +Rama: Deep underground possibly of unstable rock foundation.


25/3/24, 1:19 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

1. The reason being, with virtualisation and cloud computing, the form factor is incredibly small with the same footfall unlikely previously, 1 application per server.

2. Depending on the server capacity, easily 10 or more VMs (virtual machine) can sit in 1 physical server - hence drastically reduce the land needed to house so many servers.

3. One floor can easily house many organisations cloud computing needs - hence drastically reduce the high rental costs incurred by data centre operators.

4. Also as physical servers are reduced, electricity needs are reduced as they are replace by software Virtual Machines.

5. Talents, skillsets, cutting edge technology and knowledge, reliability of the system, reliable power supply, political stability, good infrastructure, earthquake, flooding, riot free environment, good financial systems etc - become more paramount in the consideration of setting up Data Centre in Singapore.

6. Hence we must safeguard and cherish our positive strength.


25/3/24, 1:19 pm - +Smiley face: Please check for past and new Fault line, the geology!

25/3/24, 1:20 pm - +SL: Location unknow and monitored by LEO satellite network… however if happens, only state actor can reach that extend.

25/3/24, 1:21 pm - +Frankie Wee: Basic in the building new outer space international space station


25/3/24, 1:21 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

7. Also we have many submarine cables landing sites invested by global IT companies - in which high speed fibres are installed in Singapore before spreading out to other Asia Pacific countries.


25/3/24, 1:21 pm - +Frankie Wee: ISS has worldwide earth obit

25/3/24, 1:21 pm - +Smiley face: Backbone of COMMS.... positioning!

25/3/24, 1:21 pm - +Rama: Minimise space debris needed too.

25/3/24, 1:22 pm - +Frankie Wee: Russia and China are not within international space station in future can end lend to obit

25/3/24, 1:22 pm - +Frankie Wee: They are enemies space station

25/3/24, 1:22 pm - +Rama: So much for international space station!


25/3/24, 1:22 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: <Media omitted>


25/3/24, 1:23 pm - +Frankie Wee: This where the begin the future mankind creator

25/3/24, 1:23 pm - +SL: Possible… tectonic shift never stop..

25/3/24, 1:23 pm - +Frankie Wee: Next to moon building HQ


25/3/24, 1:23 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

Hence our internet speed is the fastest in Asia Pacific region compare to other countries.


25/3/24, 1:23 pm - +Rama: Submarine cable prone to being cut by those with ill  intend!

25/3/24, 1:24 pm - +Smiley face: Rings of fire

25/3/24, 1:25 pm - +Smiley face: Simple cut followed by disrupted transmission of data and it takes months to repair it, three ocean going vessels can do the repair and the cost of replacing?

25/3/24, 1:25 pm - +Smiley face: Wow! Transparent!

25/3/24, 1:25 pm - +SL: Russia is one of the owners of ISS..

25/3/24, 1:26 pm - +Rama: Consequences astronomical in all aspects

25/3/24, 1:27 pm - +Smiley face: Japanese are excellent at recycling. This case is space debris! One hidden advantage of recycling is the ability to reengineer others know-how and better your future performances!

25/3/24, 1:27 pm - +Rama: Agree

25/3/24, 1:27 pm - +Smiley face: At the Mercy of others.....

25/3/24, 1:27 pm - +Rama: Sadly!

25/3/24, 1:27 pm - +Smiley face: No free lunch!

25/3/24, 1:28 pm - +Smiley face: So how to avoid it?

25/3/24, 1:28 pm - +Rama: Expensive yes!

25/3/24, 1:29 pm - +Smiley face: Conquering your Competitors?

Every conquer spells war! And all kinds of war happened including trade war between two powerful nations!

How long will it last? Using Pure logic and minus all agendas!  By using a massive amount of subsidies to support an economy in hope to sustain a lasting prospect of growth and this prosperity measure is just not the smart way out of the mountain of debts while pushing each other to the edge of the cliff?

25/3/24, 1:29 pm - +X-tra: Saw this earlier today, surprised no one is talking about it. Also surprising that he continues to plead not guilty 🤔

25/3/24, 1:29 pm - +Rama: Don't expect much update from sph/mediacorp!

25/3/24, 1:33 pm - +Ducky: I really think he has the means to afford everything he is being accused of accepting and will likely use that as a defense?

25/3/24, 1:34 pm - +Ducky: But hor, public service leh. Pretty clear that they cannot accept anything, not even kopi!


25/3/24, 1:36 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

With such high capacity submarines fibre optic cables - Big Data, massive backup data, training AI models - can move in high speed via the internet.

Many redundancies are build into the submarine cables landing sites - and can easily reroute to other redundant links if one submarine cable is cut.

Hence many data centres set up by foreign investors in Singapore.


25/3/24, 1:37 pm - +SL: During a crisis such as the conflict, goods prices are inflated, and outflow of wealth happens from a pure economy perspective. Subsidies will not be sustainable as the speed of draining the pool of money will be faster than usual.


25/3/24, 1:38 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

Many redundancies build in.

Undersea water is patrol by our submarines.

Submarine cables are far away from commercial ships route if they drop the anchors ⚓.


25/3/24, 1:38 pm - +Smiley face: From a deflating place into an inflating place? Or vice versa?

25/3/24, 1:38 pm - +Smiley face: Solid cable vs wireless?


25/3/24, 1:41 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

Wireless or satellites are never a reliable transmission medium as the internet backbone.

Also it can be easily tap - man-in-the-middle-attack - a big security issues.

Hence fiber to the home is coin.

All internet backbone are reliable fibre cable that cannot be easily tapped and they can transmit huge volume of data.

And fibre are technology proof and future proof.


25/3/24, 1:42 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: <Media omitted>

25/3/24, 1:42 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: <Media omitted>


25/3/24, 1:48 pm - +Smiley face: Energy consumption and the need to COOL your systems?


25/3/24, 1:52 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

1. I remember I was in one neighbouring country doing consultancy work for a university to upgrade their entire campus infrastructure. (Not mentioning which one).

2. When I need to access the internet, I notice the speed is painfully slow.

3. I do a ping, and notice the latency run up to thousands of milliseconds.

4. When I do a trace-route, I notice that it do do many hops to various countries before it reaches the intended destination.

5. When I checked with their IT staff, they told me such speed is a norm. They quite used to it. I was amused with their answer.

6. However, when I do the same while in Singapore, I noticed that the destination to anywhere in the world, the internet speed is relatively fast and fewer hops.

7. This is one of the main reason why many data centres operators from overseas want to set up shops in Singapore.

8. Land price and electricity costs are not the main determining factors although they are variables in the consideration - as cost are always important to business.


25/3/24, 1:53 pm - +Frankie Wee: New technology near future can more faster than current

25/3/24, 1:53 pm - +Smiley face: This message was deleted

25/3/24, 1:54 pm - +Smiley face: SL,....

Let's go deeper into data dynamics, the so called Turbo-Charged conditions of speeding up of data, part of the databank under highly stressed conditions and most often forgotten about is the fundamental of EE interfaces and the immensely complex algorithmic structures that drive data(points) into Quantum speed! Heat and fusion are just two elements of turbocharging performances!

The key driver is in the fundamentals of the entire structure of any given system! Let's get down into the fundamentals of things!


25/3/24, 1:55 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

Singapore has the most reliable power supply and air-conditioning system.

Except the cost may be higher.

When I design Data Centres infrastructure, the power supply are backup by redundant power generators, centralised UPS.

Same as air conditioning system.


25/3/24, 1:56 pm - +Smiley face: Consistent and continuous power supply is the primary requisite of DC.

More fundamental....


25/3/24, 1:58 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

Such as?

Unless investors want to throw in multi millions of billions to lay submarine cables to their sites.

But now most submarine cables are well laid - no incentive for investors to lay more such cables within these regions - as most countries are well served by the current submarine cables infrastructure.


25/3/24, 1:59 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

Singapore has the first mover advantage.


25/3/24, 2:00 pm - +REACH: 📢 *Topic* 📢

25/3/24, 2:01 pm - +Rama: I am hopeful then!

25/3/24, 2:08 pm - +Smiley face: "If we believe in general that hardware is the key solution to the development of softwares from coding to the conjunction of human and AI, and 

consequential discoveries and inventions of unique codes derived from an unnatural language streaming in the speed of light. Thereafter, new methodologies in producing the hyperspeed devices of connectivity."

- - anonymity 

Einstein 2.0?

E=MC2, to condense it, if E is empirical energy and MC2 is the reactions between Matters and Collisions to the amplitude and magnitude of billions of after effects and/or catalytic effects and the speed of light, arguely can be zero beyond human measurements? Perhaps, arguably in today's quantum entanglements theory, we can reimage any matter or particle empirically and the unknown categories as materials of concern and to be discovered. The profound entities and the after effects of these continuous infinite entangled actions and reactions are mathematically uncountable to infinity. Having said so, the preliminary assessments of what is a black hole and the universe; one proposition is the entire universe is a big black hole and the universe alike zillions of Pixels; a star, a planet, a system, a constellation, a galaxy; itself is endless (a common belief of an end of the world)!  The universe within many universes and each of these yet to be discovered and tested matters are beyond reality above all known earthly sciences, physics, EM, and space technologies, It is beyond the measurement of wavelengths, bandwidths, and the visual of the human eyes and the spectrum of colors and the future hyper telescopes?

25/3/24, 2:09 pm - +SL: During the conflict, goods prices inflated

25/3/24, 2:09 pm - +Smiley face: SL, Danni.... take a look...

Accelerator of data.... perhaps via wireless will be the future....and importantly, the speed of light may be Zero!

25/3/24, 2:10 pm - +Smiley face: Yes


25/3/24, 2:11 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

Quantum entanglement are still done more reliably via fibre.


25/3/24, 2:12 pm - +Smiley face: Cable at its limitations....

25/3/24, 2:12 pm - +Smiley face: How the sun gives us light....

25/3/24, 2:12 pm - +SL: Electricity cost is one of the major cost to sustain a DC

25/3/24, 2:13 pm - +Smiley face: Cable and re cable and thereafter, new and more cable to keep up the speed?

25/3/24, 2:13 pm - +Smiley face: Yes....

Next is cable vs wireless? Which consumes least+not less)?

25/3/24, 2:14 pm - +Smiley face: Goes back to the fundamentals of gateways and gatekeeping

25/3/24, 2:14 pm - +Smiley face: Will answer to you soon....


25/3/24, 2:15 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: <Media omitted>


25/3/24, 2:15 pm - +Smiley face: Let's go back to Megan's agenda....

25/3/24, 2:16 pm - +Smiley face: 25 March, 2024

"The Balancing Scale of Equal Employability"

"Taking a few steps further into the transformation of skillsets. In order to upkeep one's relevancy at work, workers need to upgrade to higher knowledge and the changing knowledge base is causing the world mixed signals of convergence and divergence both having profound impacts at work and at home and foremost, will it once again tip the balancing scale of gender equality and employability? The future of skills that tie to job suitability, workplace sustainability and the employment choice between male or female, all for one simplest reason that is expectations and higher productivity?"

-- anonymity


25/3/24, 2:16 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: <Media omitted>


25/3/24, 2:16 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

Light source transfer via dark fibre to experiment teleportation, quantum entanglement.


25/3/24, 2:17 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

Only dark fibre can transmit big chunk of data reliably.

Wireless can do quantum entanglement, teleportation.

But only small chunk of data.


25/3/24, 2:17 pm - +Smiley face: Good!

Within a parameter of geography, cable works well...on the larger geography and the Speed of data, wireless is the Future...

25/3/24, 2:17 pm - +Smiley face: You got it ...more of QE please!

25/3/24, 2:18 pm - +Smiley face: Remember how the Sun transmits Energy to our solar system....


25/3/24, 2:19 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

Until and unless proven, the current stand is still fibre as the internet backbone and for quantum computing.

No big announcement in wireless as the internet backbone yet or for quantum network as it stands today.


25/3/24, 2:20 pm - +Smiley face: Only if the US will share their findings.....?

25/3/24, 2:21 pm - +Smiley face: "when your naked eyes stare into the sun, it blinds and burned you! when you stare at the moon, it shines into your eyes! What is the Speed of light?"


25/3/24, 2:23 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: <Media omitted>

25/3/24, 2:24 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: <Media omitted>


25/3/24, 2:25 pm - +Smiley face: Current fear is cyber leakages and espionage!

25/3/24, 2:25 pm - +Smiley face: Good!

25/3/24, 2:26 pm - +Smiley face: 1,000,000km !


25/3/24, 2:26 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

The largest quantum network is setup by China running 100 km or more using "dark fibre" transmitting data through light source.

Quantum encrypted data are transmitted via the dark fibre as the backbone.

Wireless, satellite probably provide the last mile - but will not replace the internet backbone or quantum network backbone.


25/3/24, 2:28 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

If I am not wrong, SingTel is also setting up their quantum network via dark fibre.


25/3/24, 2:28 pm - +Smiley face: Ok, let's think of how to piggy Ride the sun time to accelerate into quantum speed! 

Half the Time is daylight and the other half is moonlight! 50-50

25/3/24, 2:28 pm - +Smiley face: Good begining

25/3/24, 2:28 pm - +SL: There is no new development really in This area. We may need to hang on as usual for another few years before any new innovation is published.

25/3/24, 2:29 pm - +Smiley face: Hang....for this speedy game is an endless pit of Money.


25/3/24, 2:35 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

If you're really talking about quantum entanglement and teleportation using natural light.

There's is one application.

But most people won't believe it.

It is the mundane and the Divine.

Universe versus Nirvana.

Chaos (Law of Impermanence) versus Emptiness (Law of Eternal Permanence).

This is what Einstein law of relativity try to prove.

But only people experience Emptiness in Nirvana - can certified what you say is true.

色是空。

空是色。

Yes Teleportation do exist.

Quantum Entanglement do exist.

Current Quantum physics scientists are trying to prove it using dark fibre.

Only Arahat, Bodhisattva (Buddha not around now) - to testify what you say about teleportation and quantum entanglement is true.

Teleportation and quantum entanglement - between Samsara Universe and Nirvana - via natural light. <This message was edited>


25/3/24, 2:40 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

If quantum scientists one day is able to prove teleportation and quantum entanglement via natural light.

Not using dark fibre.

That means, Quantum scientists can prove Nirvana Emptiness !!! <This message was edited>


25/3/24, 2:43 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

That's, quantum scientists can prove "Life after Death".

Quantum Entanglement of 4 States:-

1. Life

2. Living

3. Sickness

4. Death 

00 + 01 + 10 + 11 - in quantum entanglement of 4 States qubits of 0 and 1.

Not the current state of binary 0 or 1.


25/3/24, 2:44 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

That is Life is Eternal, no birth, no death.

不生,不灭。


25/3/24, 2:47 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: <Media omitted>

25/3/24, 2:48 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: <Media omitted>


25/3/24, 2:48 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

Quantum entanglement - superposition of qubits.

Cat can be dead on Earth, but alive in another Universe (Multiverse).


25/3/24, 2:49 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

Scary leh...


25/3/24, 2:51 pm - +Smiley face: The opposite is Calm...

25/3/24, 2:52 pm - +Smiley face: <Media omitted>

25/3/24, 2:54 pm - +SL: Beautiful picture..

25/3/24, 2:55 pm - +Smiley face: SL,....if you have a laptop now, pls study all possible points and connect as many of your human eyes (mind) can process ...fun

25/3/24, 2:56 pm - +Smiley face: <Media omitted>

25/3/24, 2:57 pm - +SL: Unique superposition character, maybe still need more study of superposition

25/3/24, 2:59 pm - +Smiley face: SL, answering your early question....

The dynamism of deflation and inflation have proven beyond any doubts that will be detrimental to lives and displacing livelihoods experienced from the recent episodes of the Covid pandemic. All economies of the world came to a full stop. And for China, more than a thousand days of lockdown, it was a prolonged period of underperformance and non productive to its overall manufacturing base and the significance of sufferings to humanity that brought into today's imbalanced trades (for a long while) and shortages of supplies from raw materials to finished products.

25/3/24, 3:00 pm - +SL: The best is when lying down and imagining it mid-night/ early morning from various angles after seeing this photo…

25/3/24, 3:00 pm - +SL: Thanks for sharing

25/3/24, 3:00 pm - +Smiley face: This message was deleted

25/3/24, 3:02 pm - +SL: This message was deleted

25/3/24, 3:05 pm - +Smiley face: This message was deleted

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25/3/24, 3:06 pm - +SL: cellular aging?

25/3/24, 3:07 pm - +Smiley face: Future Digital Civilisation?

The position of women in the transformation of technology that requires on-going considerations and circumstances face by women at home and at work. Simply put it, will women be better-off with Digitisation or will women once again off the Balancing Scale of employability? Just when the world took on the profound idea of WFM (thanks to Covid and lockdown) and thinking that WFM will ultimately equalise gender difference between male workers and female workers. However for women, it's not as simple as working from your kitchen tabletop while looking over your crawling toddler on the floor.

25/3/24, 3:08 pm - +SL: @ 😁, the life/ world is complex…. 🙏

25/3/24, 3:10 pm - +Smiley face: Should our Policy of training go 50-50, men and women to balance it, just in case...

25/3/24, 3:11 pm - +Smiley face: If the above situation is so true then male workers will have the advantage of more free hands to attend to WFM! Is it true to say so? Perhaps it's the culture and ethos of billions of people thinking that women must fullfil the home needs before they take on more work outside of the home. And men always supposedly to provide the means to meet the home expenses. Only if there come one day, the reversal of duties and responsibilities of women passes onto men, maybe it will begin the equalising structure of men vs women both at home and at work?


25/3/24, 3:13 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

There are some rare people in human flesh, 1/2 with human mundane mind, and half with Nirvana mind.

That's they are in quantum entanglement of the 4 qubits states - superposition.

There are such people around except cannot be proven by quantum scientists.

The furthest quantum scientists can prove is setting up quantum network to do quantum entanglement and teleportation via dark fibre. <This message was edited>


25/3/24, 3:19 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

Body is a pile of garbage.

一副臭皮囊。

Finally it will have to be discarded.

But some rare people can turn it into body sariras.


25/3/24, 3:22 pm - +Smiley face: This message was deleted

25/3/24, 3:22 pm - +Smiley face: "TAO is not a religion. Tao is Tao of the Universe! The beginning of things and entities from solid to insolid states! No Tao, simply means, No way!"

-- anonymity 

A thorough and true understanding of the philosophy of Tao will enable pre-selected individuals to visualize all terrestrial objects and the other dimensional extraterrestrials that "traveling at zero speed of quantum light and time is a passage,  importantly it is timeless!"

TAO defines and redefines all humankind entanglements from the tangible to the intangible. Therefore, in a preliminary conclusion, Tao is highly useful in solving all matters, solid, liquid or invincible!

25/3/24, 3:25 pm - +Smiley face: The flight abilities of Stealth aircraft are full of Tao! 

Lockheed Martin kneeled it long ago...what is the dynamic of flight,  in a state of floating? How to accelerate this floating state of calmness and in silence?

25/3/24, 3:28 pm - +Smiley face: What is cancer?

A subatomic imbalance of cellular and the formation of molecular structures entangled (beyond untangling state), ...how to untie cancer!?

25/3/24, 3:31 pm - +Smiley face: This message was deleted

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25/3/24, 4:00 pm - +REACH: 📢 *Topic* 📢

25/3/24, 4:01 pm - +Frankie Wee: Blossom and peaceful this mean one God united in religion.

25/3/24, 4:02 pm - +Frankie Wee: Look like form is jewel

25/3/24, 4:25 pm - +Smiley face: See the connection.... geometrical

25/3/24, 4:26 pm - +Smiley face: Atom, molecule... structure....think of it this way..... smaller than nano!

25/3/24, 4:30 pm - +Frankie Wee: Can see different number of 6 what we know culture and religion respect each other and regardless of language into one English.

25/3/24, 4:30 pm - +Frankie Wee: https://onecms-res.cloudinary.com/image/upload/s--KpBXcWoE--/c_fill,g_auto,h_468,w_830/f_auto,q_auto/census-of-population-2020---religions-data.png?itok=mXY3OiWB

25/3/24, 4:30 pm - +Frankie Wee: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/no-religion-humanist-society-singapore-census-2003576


25/3/24, 4:37 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: <Media omitted>


25/3/24, 4:40 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

People looking into science providing explanation to life is correct.

Because eventually, science can prove religion - specifically quantum physics, quantum science.

Now quantum scientists are very close to proving teleportation and quantum entanglement using dark fibre.

One day, if scientists are able to prove teleportation and quantum entanglement via natural light - then religions will be proven.

Divine exist.

Except it has not been proven yet.

But can be infer.


25/3/24, 4:59 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

Calm is a phenomenon whereby:-

1. No stray thoughts arise (no bad thought, no neutral thought, not even good thought) 不起心动念。

2. When no stray thoughts arise, there are no karma. That is, there are no cause, no effect. 没因,没果。

3. Under Newton's law, no force, no correspondence reactive force.

4. Hence, no birth, no death. 不生,不灭。

5. This is Eternal Calmness, 静,空,如如不动,一心不乱,明心见性。

6. 5 mental aggreate Emptiness. 4 Great Element Emptiness. (五蕴皆空,四大皆空)- 5-senses Emptiness, 4 - air, temperature, matter and water Emptiness - the Great Silencing of the Mind (Eternal Bliss).


25/3/24, 5:03 pm - +Kenneth Lee WM: For previous topic, about scammers, I just got an email asking me to transfer some huge amount of funds and they will give me a percentage of it. If the authorities can pursue these, one by one, the culprits can be eliminated.

25/3/24, 5:03 pm - +Kenneth Lee WM: <Media omitted>


25/3/24, 5:05 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: <Media omitted>

25/3/24, 5:05 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: <Media omitted>


25/3/24, 5:05 pm - +Rama: Rubbish!

25/3/24, 5:08 pm - Your security code with ~ Kanesh changed. Tap to learn more.

25/3/24, 5:12 pm - +Kenneth Lee WM: the last time i reported on behalf of my company, after spending close to 2 hours there filling up reports etc, they told me they couldn't do anything.

25/3/24, 5:12 pm - +Kenneth Lee WM: i don't think i want to go thru the trouble unless i'm assured that something can be done.

25/3/24, 5:12 pm - +Kenneth Lee WM: right now, i spent 2hrs to be a count in their reports.

25/3/24, 5:13 pm - +Frankie Wee: Waste time 

Just delete email I think 🤔 actual from spam email


25/3/24, 5:15 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

Just report it under OneService apps and attach your screenshot in the JPG attachment.

They will open a file and look into it.

In all time, you will receive a feedback from the relevant agency.


25/3/24, 5:16 pm - +Frankie Wee: Did you transfer any money from them or money mule that u received by someone then need immediate report to police or else you will end up victim

25/3/24, 5:17 pm - +Frankie Wee: Most import do not sent documents personal.


25/3/24, 5:19 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

Note all police report are keep in central database - and will be collated, cross check as reference for investigation.

It will not be wasted.

One day this could lead to successful arrest and prosecution.


25/3/24, 5:23 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

Also include the email address of the sender - so that police can trace the sender email address from which POP (email point of presence) and touch base with email service provider to identify the email id and name of the sender.


25/3/24, 5:26 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: <Media omitted>

25/3/24, 5:27 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: <Media omitted>


25/3/24, 5:28 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

This one without email address (cannot trace the email POP).


25/3/24, 5:29 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: <Media omitted>


25/3/24, 5:30 pm - +Kenneth Lee WM: what the police told me was that the culprits are outside of Singapore, beyond their scope.  need to call interpol, which is useless because there is no "victim" yet.

25/3/24, 5:31 pm - +Smiley face: Good!


25/3/24, 5:32 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

Well I use to report under OneService apps - and the Police acknowledge my report.

Also Singapore has join collaboration with I think 18 countries to go after international scammers.


25/3/24, 5:33 pm - +Kenneth Lee WM: ok, i think reach got the feedback that the current process needs improvement.

back on topic about skills future, over 40, etc ....

25/3/24, 5:33 pm - +Kenneth Lee WM: yes and when i reported, they too acknowledged my report and filed it.

that's it. nothing happened after that.


25/3/24, 6:20 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

"Proportion of job vacancies for PMETs rose further in 2023, with tech workers in demand: MOM.

Newly created positions made up 47.3 per cent of all vacancies, the highest proportion since the Ministry of Manpower started tracking the indicator in 2018."

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/singapore-job-vacancies-pmet-tech-software-developers-health-4219216#:~:text=Proportion%20of%20job%20vacancies%20for%20PMETs,started%20tracking%20the%20indicator%20in%202018.


25/3/24, 6:22 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

IT tech jobs still in high demand.

AI is the catalyst.


25/3/24, 6:30 pm - +REACH: 📢 *Topic* 📢

25/3/24, 6:45 pm - +REACH: *Dear Contributors,*

⏰ We will be closing the chat in *15 minutes* ⏰

Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.

Goodnight!

Megan 😊


25/3/24, 6:50 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

I have tried using Generative AI to see whether I can bridge Mundane into Divine.

Unfortunately, Generative AI is limited by the mundane human mind - as a training model despite feeding it with all religious texts.

In future if quantum entanglement and teleportation can be broken by quantum computing - then couple with Generative AI - it is possible to prove the Divine State of Nirvana! <This message was edited>


25/3/24, 6:57 pm - +Smiley face: This message was deleted

25/3/24, 6:57 pm - +Smiley face: 25 March, 2024

"The Balancing Scale of Equal Employability"

"Taking a few steps further into the transformation of skillsets. In order to upkeep one's relevancy at work, workers need to upgrade to higher knowledge and the changing knowledge base is causing the world mixed signals of convergence and divergence both having profound impacts at work and at home and foremost, will it once again tip the balancing scale of gender equality and employability? The future of skills that tie to job suitability, workplace sustainability and the employment choice between male or female, all for one simplest reason that is expectations and higher productivity?"

-- anonymity

Future Digital Civilisation?

The position of women in the transformation of technology that requires on-going considerations and circumstances face by women at home and at work. Simply put it, will women be better-off with Digitisation or will women once again off the Balancing Scale of employability? Just when the world took on the profound idea of WFM (thanks to Covid and lockdown) and thinking that WFM will ultimately equalise gender difference between male workers and female workers. However for women, it's not as simple as working from your kitchen tabletop while looking over your crawling toddler on the floor.

If the above situation is so true then male workers will have the advantage of more free hands to attend to WFM! Is it true to say so? Perhaps it's the culture and ethos of billions of people thinking that women must fullfil the home needs before they take on more work outside of the home. And men always supposedly to provide the means to meet the home expenses. Only if there come one day, the reversal of duties and responsibilities of women passes onto men, maybe it will begin the equalising structure of men vs women both at home and at work?

Concept Time:

"If human wisdom is derived from past experiences then all experiences from the worst to the best can be compressed into Q-format  feeding into algorithmic patterns to strive for better outcomes or in human sense, better experience of the future to be!"

-- anonymity

That's maybe an early indicator of future success, for more powerful than the metrics of KPI ? True or Imagine?

How not to be FIRED? ( besides upgrading skills)

"It's all about People to People relationships! Communication over Compensation!"

-- anonymity 

So what's the big deal having gotten the latest skillsets?

At the bottom of the corporate ladder are the abundance of workers who work day in and day out as implementers of core Duties and Responsibilities.

Up the ladder to the next floor of workers are the Managers who overlooking below the work floor (aka workflow). These managers are the group leaders that ensure the flow of operations as required by the management (aka bosses).

The pinnacle of any organisation is the management of the firm! Here at the top floor (aka strategy and policy). These top bosses have what many described as the key attribute that is great communicator! Arguely, millions of folks would say, " talk the walk and at times cannot walk"?

The truth is communication is the hidden key to Success at any FLOOR of work and most importantly, isn't it human to human to get along or facing conflicts and confrontations! And that's the kicker in losing your job! Isn't it true?

Fast, Faster and Fastest?

With the fast response from Digitisation itself has shortened the number of productive years of workers from level up to senior managers!

The attrition rates of individuals can be expressed in the mathematical language of differential and simultaneous progression. The starting point is 20 years to 45 years of age.

Another variation and a further refinement of the standard deviation against the Z point as expressed on the above mathematical model. The SD can be up to 1.5 from the nearest Z.

That's to say, the unemployment rates or the ratio of Retrenchment cohort will bend towards age 50 and older. 

It's not a simple challenge nor is it any easy HR  hiring model or mathematically expressed in hope to achieve symmetrical outcome on a normal distribution of labor out of age group followed by skillsets, sector by sector. And not to forget to include wages across age groups and the average length of service.   

               - - in progress - -

25/3/24, 6:59 pm - +REACH: *Dear Contributors,*

We will be closing the chat for today.

Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.

Goodnight!

Megan 😊


25/3/24, 6:59 pm - ☸️  Danny 心: 

Because generative ai cannot understand abstract sciences and meta physics


25/3/24, 7:00 pm - ~ REACH Singapore changed this group's settings to allow only admins to send messages to this group


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