REACH 487 - What are your views on MOM’s proposal to designate platform workers as a new, distinct category of workers? How can we better protect platform workers through the various support schemes?
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15 Aug 2023 (10am - 7pm)
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16/08/2023, 9:59 am - +REACH: *📢 Topic 📢*
Ministry of Manpower (MOM) said on Monday, 14 August, that it is seeking public views on designating platform workers as a distinct category of workers, noting that creating a category distinct from other employees and the self-employed would make it easier for these workers to understand the legal protections and support schemes that they are eligible for.
MOM also said platform operators need to take “reasonably practicable measures” to ensure the safety and health of platform workers with whom they enter into contracts, and it wants to get feedback on these obligations.
💬 *What are your views on MOM’s proposal to designate platform workers as a new, distinct category of workers? How can we better protect platform workers through the various support schemes?*
Deliverymen and ride-hailing drivers who use online matching platforms such as Grab, foodpanda and Lalamove for work here could be designated as a new worker category under new measures that are being drafted by the authorities.
These measures include setting reasonable expectations for how much time is needed to fulfil a job so that workers do not need to rush, and rolling out mechanisms for the public to report unsafe driving or riding to the respective platform operators. These new measures are expected to kick in from the second half of 2024.
The new protections will be given only to platform workers who provide ride-hailing and delivery services.
📌 *Defining Platform Operators*
MOM proposes that platform operators here be defined by 3 ‘prongs’:
1️⃣ The first prong defines platform operators as those that collect data to automate the matching of customers with workers – for instance, by assigning a particular ride-hailing driver to make a trip based on his estimated time of arrival.
2️⃣ The second prong limits the scope to cover only operators that provide such chargeable matching services as a business model.
3️⃣ The third prong further defines platform operators as those that exert control over platform workers, by limiting their ability to choose their hours of work or negotiate a fee, for example.
📌 *MOM Public Consultation via REACH website*
The public consultation, which is being conducted online until Sept 4, will also gather views on how else platform operators and workers should be defined under the new laws, and who should be responsible for protecting platform workers engaged as subcontractors. Those who wish to give their views on these issues can do so on the REACH website at https://go.gov.sg/publicconsultpwbill by 6pm on Sept 4.
The consultation exercise comes as the Government prepares to table new legislation in Parliament to implement a set of new policies that will grant platform workers employee-like levels of work injury compensation insurance and Central Provident Fund contributions.
👉https://str.sg/i5sf
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16/08/2023, 10:02 am - +Rama: I am all for this.
16/08/2023, 10:11 am - +Ah Heng: protect?
16/08/2023, 10:11 am - +Ah Heng: how to protect when we have so call visitors coming in and using the platform as work also
16/08/2023, 10:12 am - +Rama: Moonlighting
16/08/2023, 10:12 am - +Ah Heng: i will say make these so called platform companies to submit an audit trail on weekly basis on who are using their platform for earning
16/08/2023, 10:12 am - +Ah Heng: singapore pie is just that big not like msia
16/08/2023, 10:12 am - +Rama: Yes
16/08/2023, 10:12 am - +Ah Heng: if we keep having loop holes how is your protect going to be
16/08/2023, 10:12 am - +Ah Heng: protect what ...
16/08/2023, 10:12 am - +Ah Heng: u think everyday platform workers not get paid
16/08/2023, 10:13 am - +Ah Heng: or every minute there is a platform worker getting abuse ?
16/08/2023, 10:13 am - +Rama: Exactly!
16/08/2023, 10:14 am - +Ah Heng: so 1st ring to protect make sure these workers are competing fairly in a restricted market size
16/08/2023, 10:14 am - +Ah Heng: what rubbish about free market etc is all craps face the face our free market = a small market
16/08/2023, 10:15 am - +Ah Heng: 2) platform workers are driving money into the companies pocket should not they get something like benefits ?
16/08/2023, 10:15 am - +Ah Heng: scrap the technology part the company put into if really have to go to basic shop and business owners can also dial a service for delivery staff also
16/08/2023, 10:18 am - +Ah Heng: also what platform charges should be kept at minimum ... it why it should be load on the middle men (platform workers)
16/08/2023, 10:19 am - +Ah Heng: on matters pertaining CPF ... well pros and cons but is sure of one way to ensure these platforms are not abuse by visitors to our land aka as long as cannot register into cpf the company will know it is illegal and should inform ICA HAHAHAHAHA
16/08/2023, 10:24 am - +Frankie Wee: Self employed do not rush and do not over work pls stay safe and healthy. Follow up the platform operators. Keep safe all the time protect yourself.
16/08/2023, 10:28 am - +Frankie Wee: However claim insurance policy otherwise won’t paid their injured
Platform operators maybe require them to have license
16/08/2023, 10:39 am - +~L: amazing! great to see MOM protecting workers.
16/08/2023, 10:40 am - +Rama: Yes
16/08/2023, 10:40 am - +~L: obviously the problem is that costs will be pushed up as the platforms will pass on the additional costs to the consumer, but that's the reality. workers should not be abused or exploited
16/08/2023, 10:40 am - +Rama: Definitely
16/08/2023, 10:41 am - +Frankie Wee: One problem is loophole or illegal themself (WP cover job)
16/08/2023, 10:52 am - +Valli: MOM should look into PRs who have retain this status even though they are living overseas and travel here adhoc to show their presence here. A loophole. They pay a commission to a company to show they are employed.
16/08/2023, 10:54 am - +~L: I'm sure you're right about this, but what is the consequence and is this a priority?
16/08/2023, 10:54 am - +Ah Heng: so many loop holes all just close eyes
16/08/2023, 10:55 am - +Ah Heng: keep driving cost of empolyment (full time) low but social costs keep flying up
16/08/2023, 11:02 am - +Rama: Yes
16/08/2023, 11:06 am - +Frankie Wee: Free tax
16/08/2023, 11:09 am - +Coconut Tree: I second this. know of double digit cases personally.
PRs, not working in SG for more than5 years. All Malaysians
16/08/2023, 11:17 am - +KL: Is the company punished for fake data ?
16/08/2023, 11:17 am - +KL: since so many people say so then the company should be dig out and so MOM not doing their job again? <This message was edited>
16/08/2023, 11:18 am - +KL: Since like they sleeping for decade ?
16/08/2023, 11:18 am - +Rama: Overwhelmed and understaffed enforcement! ?
16/08/2023, 11:23 am - +KL: This message was deleted
16/08/2023, 11:23 am - +KL: This message was deleted
16/08/2023, 11:23 am - +KL: Or do they turn a blind eye on these policies that turn against local ?
16/08/2023, 11:24 am - +KL: Oops sorry did not know someone say the same.
16/08/2023, 11:27 am - +Coconut Tree: This is true.
16/08/2023, 11:30 am - +KL: But just run thrgt the Gov career website they never post any hire for MOM enforcement but only planning .
16/08/2023, 11:31 am - +Rama: Possibly
16/08/2023, 11:31 am - +Rama: Something sinister!?
16/08/2023, 11:32 am - +KL: u can check the website now. maybe my English not good it, cant spot it <This message was edited>
16/08/2023, 11:33 am - +Ah Heng: always the same story wan lah not enuff head count , den blame birth rate low
16/08/2023, 11:34 am - +KL: one question I often want to know do ministry hire PR as well ?
16/08/2023, 11:35 am - +Rama: I believe so
16/08/2023, 11:35 am - +Rama: 😳😄🤷♂️
16/08/2023, 11:36 am - +KL: If this hold true , my Second question will these ppl side or raise the policies that benefit themself but the policies itslef that turn against local ? <This message was edited>
16/08/2023, 11:37 am - +Rama: Against locals
16/08/2023, 11:37 am - +KL: This case or the rest of the policies . Also they can just turn a blind eye to some flaw policies <This message was edited>
16/08/2023, 11:40 am - +KL: It make sense once 5 years not in SG PR should revoke HDB need to sell. It been there a decade . why the loophole was not fixed ?
16/08/2023, 11:40 am - +KL: Arent these a wildfully blind eye. It not only not benefit SG / it turn against SG and local
16/08/2023, 11:40 am - +Ken: If they never let go thẻ PR status
16/08/2023, 11:40 am - +KL: If those in charge of the policies are PR aren't these amount to bigger issue, ? <This message was edited>
16/08/2023, 11:40 am - +Ken: But they need to come back to renew not forever
16/08/2023, 11:41 am - +Ken: Is to give them chance to come back…
16/08/2023, 11:41 am - +KL: Gov need to check right not just blindly renew
16/08/2023, 11:41 am - +Ken: Those not many I think
16/08/2023, 11:42 am - +KL: Sleeping right
16/08/2023, 11:42 am - +Ken: My neighbour stay in Australia for 5 years since i move there… never see them since day one…
lol waste a HDB
16/08/2023, 11:42 am - +Ken: I think.. unless you have the numbers…
16/08/2023, 11:42 am - +KL: Local or PR ?
16/08/2023, 11:42 am - +Ken: Local
16/08/2023, 11:43 am - +KL: Local you do anything unless u can prove they have the citizen in Auz
16/08/2023, 11:43 am - +KL: For this I can suggest
16/08/2023, 11:43 am - +KL: ICA to start checking the people return from auz to check if they carry 2 passport <This message was edited>
16/08/2023, 11:44 am - +Ken: Haha how you check?
16/08/2023, 11:44 am - +Rama: Yes
16/08/2023, 11:44 am - +KL: I know how to check , I prefer ICA they figure themself
16/08/2023, 11:44 am - +Ken: Err you can’t check them based on suspect unless people report you
16/08/2023, 11:44 am - +Ken: If not is against human rights… 🤣
16/08/2023, 11:45 am - +KL: like I say there is a way. I not the smart uncle so I think ICA combine few hundred ppl more clever then me <This message was edited>
16/08/2023, 11:46 am - +KL: Then why MRT check ppl ?
16/08/2023, 11:46 am - +Ken: Sometimes is not how to do… but is it doable that don’t get public outrage…
16/08/2023, 11:47 am - +KL: of course , but it can be done
16/08/2023, 11:47 am - +Ken: They check if you have weapon based on safety…
16/08/2023, 11:47 am - +Ken: If you check if you are dual citizenship… really hard to do, without offending the person
16/08/2023, 11:48 am - +KL: Since dual citizen hard to check how about those PR never return ? More easy right ?
16/08/2023, 11:49 am - +KL: It should not be to hard to catch those 3 years not in SG PR ? ICa should have the data right ? <This message was edited>
16/08/2023, 11:52 am - +KL: If u think will cause public outrage then something is wrong . Meaning most Singaporean have dual citizenship without anyone knowing ?
16/08/2023, 11:53 am - +Ken: 🤣
16/08/2023, 11:54 am - +Frankie Wee: Don’t have dual
16/08/2023, 11:54 am - +KL: u mean u or Singaporean ?
16/08/2023, 11:55 am - +KL: Nevertheless can do the easier one first , PR 3 years not in SG ? ICa should have to do something first .
16/08/2023, 11:55 am - +Frankie Wee: If I were hold two country dual I would be rich easy to live
16/08/2023, 11:56 am - +KL: Not really , maybe u study in auz and work 2 years got a Citizen there and return SG to work . Who know u got dual ? <This message was edited>
16/08/2023, 11:56 am - +Frankie Wee: <Media omitted>
16/08/2023, 11:57 am - +Frankie Wee: Not allow under law
16/08/2023, 11:57 am - +Frankie Wee: Only PR ok can or green card
16/08/2023, 11:57 am - +KL: u need to figure out how can be done
16/08/2023, 11:59 am - +KL: Of course not allow , that why can catch . If not how to catch ?
16/08/2023, 12:00 pm - +Ah Heng: another law i dun understand
16/08/2023, 12:00 pm - +KL: Whoch part?
16/08/2023, 12:00 pm - +Ah Heng: why wp / ep and pr can pulle dout cpf
16/08/2023, 12:00 pm - +Frankie Wee: Passport has one only
16/08/2023, 12:00 pm - +Ah Heng: when they going back
16/08/2023, 12:00 pm - +Ken: PR is very hard to get now
16/08/2023, 12:00 pm - +Ah Heng: fault them lah
16/08/2023, 12:01 pm - +Ah Heng: else allow them here work for fun here ahh
16/08/2023, 12:01 pm - +Ah Heng: wp / ep / pr wanna pulled out cpf make sure we retain up to 50%
16/08/2023, 12:01 pm - +Ah Heng: stop being a sorry to say a place for people to sponge on
16/08/2023, 12:01 pm - +Ah Heng: we are seen as weakling ok
16/08/2023, 12:01 pm - +Ah Heng: a dog
16/08/2023, 12:02 pm - +Ah Heng: on the outside all the pretty works work freindly
16/08/2023, 12:02 pm - +Ah Heng: company friendly
16/08/2023, 12:02 pm - +KL: Hard to get doesn't mean you can don't return to SG for few years yet retain PR . since u not in SG soil why retain PR ? Unless u still contribute to economically or physically. best to maintain 183days out of 2 or 3 years <This message was edited>
16/08/2023, 12:02 pm - +Ah Heng: easy to do business
16/08/2023, 12:02 pm - +Frankie Wee: Because of declensions citizenship once u have become new country and surroundings to other country
16/08/2023, 12:02 pm - +Ah Heng: but at the back business all luffing at us singapore
16/08/2023, 12:02 pm - +Ah Heng: i compalin abit singapore govt panic
16/08/2023, 12:02 pm - +Ah Heng: scare i pulled out
16/08/2023, 12:17 pm - +REACH: *PM Lee answers questions from Singaporeans on our national reserves.*
👉🏻Inside story of the Reserves
https://youtu.be/RbsmEEuHwuA
👉🏻Reserves as a secret weapon
https://youtu.be/BKGU8ekFmRQ
👉🏻Inner workings of Temasek and GIC revealed
https://youtu.be/l0dY6dk4SBM
Shorts on CNA tiktok
https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSLbc198M/
16/08/2023, 12:19 pm - +Frankie Wee: Everyone is worrying reserve fund when govt is taking risk investment can go wrong or slow down
16/08/2023, 12:34 pm - +Rama: Believe there are loopholes
16/08/2023, 12:34 pm - +Rama: Not impressed
16/08/2023, 12:35 pm - +Rama: Public money lost but pathetic response!
16/08/2023, 12:36 pm - +Frankie Wee: Country govt bribe and corruption enter lied enter Singapore declared?
16/08/2023, 12:36 pm - +Rama: Possibly
16/08/2023, 12:37 pm - +Frankie Wee: But no one blame it we all bear it lost. Because world is changed AI and technology advance disadvantage between US and China
16/08/2023, 12:37 pm - +Frankie Wee: Omg Singapore govt couldn’t identify
16/08/2023, 12:39 pm - +Rama: Expected to be under wraps!
16/08/2023, 12:51 pm - +KL: Not so serious la , just Sleeping :)) <This message was edited>
16/08/2023, 12:55 pm - +Rama: Sleeping on the job!
16/08/2023, 1:05 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
1. Platform workers are hard work and vulnerable.
2. Good that government form a new category to protect them.
16/08/2023, 1:07 pm - +Rama: Yes
16/08/2023, 1:07 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Reserves is Singapore lifeline.
Important to protect and safeguard them.
Hence electing a good President, capable government and a competent civil service is so important.
16/08/2023, 1:09 pm - +Rama: So, not link to the government cannot do the job!?
16/08/2023, 1:11 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Good government will help to accumulate more reserves and not waste them away.
Good sovereign fund managers will help to invest wisely and grow our wealth.
Good President will help us to guard our reserves and ensure our reserves are safeguarded and use wisely.
16/08/2023, 1:12 pm - +Rama: Bad losses must not be taken lightly!
16/08/2023, 1:14 pm - +Frankie Wee: Identify
16/08/2023, 1:27 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
"Singapore flags ‘structural decline’ without migrant workers"
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/singapore-flags-structural-decline-without-migrant-workers-020024385.html#:~:text=Singapore%20flags%20%E2%80%98structural%20decline%E2%80%99%20without%20migrant%20workers
16/08/2023, 1:27 pm - ☸️ Danny 心: <Media omitted>
16/08/2023, 1:27 pm - ☸️ Danny 心: <Media omitted>
16/08/2023, 1:27 pm - ☸️ Danny 心: <Media omitted>
16/08/2023, 1:27 pm - ☸️ Danny 心: <Media omitted>
16/08/2023, 1:27 pm - ☸️ Danny 心: <Media omitted>
16/08/2023, 1:27 pm - ☸️ Danny 心: <Media omitted>
16/08/2023, 1:32 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Singapore has done well in building our reserves through sovereign fund - one of the largest in the world.
Hence important to safeguard the reserves and ensure we have a good future - amidst a very challenging external landscape.
16/08/2023, 1:33 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
"When geopolitical concerns take priority over open trade, world can expect slower growth, longer-term inflation: DPM Wong"
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/dpm-lawrence-wong-fareed-zakaria-dialogue-reinventing-destiny-conference-3698626#:~:text=When%20geopolitical%20concerns%20take%20priority%20over%20open%20trade%2C%20world%20can%20expect%20slower%20growth%2C%20longer%2Dterm%20inflation%3A%20DPM%20Wong
16/08/2023, 1:34 pm - +Smiley face: https://youtu.be/BKGU8ekFmRQ
16/08/2023, 1:34 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Platform workers are spending more than they earn; savings in ‘unhealthy range’: DBS study. https://www.straitstimes.com/business/platform-workers-are-spending-more-than-they-earn-savings-in-unhealthy-range-dbs-study
16/08/2023, 1:34 pm - +Rama: Can the government give concrete evidence of good immigrants blended well into our tradition, customs!?
16/08/2023, 1:34 pm - +Rama: Not good
16/08/2023, 1:35 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Gupta from India - DBS CEO is one good example.
He help to grow DBS into a trillion dollars company. <This message was edited>
16/08/2023, 1:36 pm - +Rama: That's all!?
16/08/2023, 1:37 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Khaw boon wan, a Malaysia born is a good Minister.
16/08/2023, 1:37 pm - +Rama: He is someone who doesn't believe in work life balance!
16/08/2023, 1:37 pm - +Rama: Disagree
16/08/2023, 1:38 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Most Singaporeans are ancestors of immigrants.
16/08/2023, 1:39 pm - +Rama: Still can tell a local from a second class imported singaporean.
16/08/2023, 1:40 pm - +KL: I thgt is 740B :) <This message was edited>
16/08/2023, 1:42 pm - +Sam: Why an imported Singaporean a second class citizen?
16/08/2023, 1:44 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
You are right.
I should say close to $1 trillion.
16/08/2023, 1:54 pm - +KL: Maybe but this time we are discussing PR left sg for a number of years still holding sg pr or even citizen secretly holding dual citizenship. How does this help Singapore in long run ? <This message was edited>
16/08/2023, 1:54 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
This one I got no comment.
16/08/2023, 1:55 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
PR are not citizens.
16/08/2023, 1:55 pm - +Rama: When you stick to your community over here while we live our lives in harmony but are looked down!
16/08/2023, 1:56 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
I think we will expect some who don't intend to get rooted here.
But many new citizens are rooted in Singapore.
16/08/2023, 1:57 pm - +KL: This message was deleted
16/08/2023, 1:58 pm - +Rama: If you don't get involved with our way of live but expect this country to be an extension of where you came from!
16/08/2023, 1:58 pm - +KL: Yep
16/08/2023, 1:58 pm - +Rama: Economically only!?
16/08/2023, 1:59 pm - +KL: I got saw this situation . This person come from xx still speak Cantonese to everyone he knew from his country. Not sure what he thinking but what your thoughts <This message was edited>
16/08/2023, 1:59 pm - +Rama: You get my point I see
16/08/2023, 2:00 pm - +REACH: *📢 Topic 📢*
Ministry of Manpower (MOM) said on Monday, 14 August, that it is seeking public views on designating platform workers as a distinct category of workers, noting that creating a category distinct from other employees and the self-employed would make it easier for these workers to understand the legal protections and support schemes that they are eligible for.
MOM also said platform operators need to take “reasonably practicable measures” to ensure the safety and health of platform workers with whom they enter into contracts, and it wants to get feedback on these obligations.
💬 *What are your views on MOM’s proposal to designate platform workers as a new, distinct category of workers? How can we better protect platform workers through the various support schemes?*
Deliverymen and ride-hailing drivers who use online matching platforms such as Grab, foodpanda and Lalamove for work here could be designated as a new worker category under new measures that are being drafted by the authorities.
These measures include setting reasonable expectations for how much time is needed to fulfil a job so that workers do not need to rush, and rolling out mechanisms for the public to report unsafe driving or riding to the respective platform operators. These new measures are expected to kick in from the second half of 2024.
The new protections will be given only to platform workers who provide ride-hailing and delivery services.
📌 *Defining Platform Operators*
MOM proposes that platform operators here be defined by 3 ‘prongs’:
1️⃣ The first prong defines platform operators as those that collect data to automate the matching of customers with workers – for instance, by assigning a particular ride-hailing driver to make a trip based on his estimated time of arrival.
2️⃣ The second prong limits the scope to cover only operators that provide such chargeable matching services as a business model.
3️⃣ The third prong further defines platform operators as those that exert control over platform workers, by limiting their ability to choose their hours of work or negotiate a fee, for example.
📌 *MOM Public Consultation via REACH website*
The public consultation, which is being conducted online until Sept 4, will also gather views on how else platform operators and workers should be defined under the new laws, and who should be responsible for protecting platform workers engaged as subcontractors. Those who wish to give their views on these issues can do so on the REACH website at https://go.gov.sg/publicconsultpwbill by 6pm on Sept 4.
The consultation exercise comes as the Government prepares to table new legislation in Parliament to implement a set of new policies that will grant platform workers employee-like levels of work injury compensation insurance and Central Provident Fund contributions.
👉https://str.sg/i5sf
16/08/2023, 2:00 pm - +KL: Did you really see how it work ?
16/08/2023, 2:00 pm - +Rama: Sometime ago, them MOS for MOM TSL played down a social media post about pinoy pr involved in RC helping their own kind!
16/08/2023, 2:06 pm - +KL: Recently there a change not sure food panda or grab . The changes is multiple task . Thus the fee earn by platform will be lower . <This message was edited>
16/08/2023, 2:08 pm - +Rama: Blood suckers!
16/08/2023, 2:12 pm - +Coconut Tree: Respectfully. I disagree. Most are not. They're just here to suck as much blood out of SG before fugging off.
16/08/2023, 2:13 pm - +KL: Quote from Food panda : How is distance calculated?
The distance is calculated using Google Maps from 15 August 2023 (4pm) onwards, which is a precise, fair, and accurate system that calculates the most efficient route taking into account the real time traffic.
16/08/2023, 2:14 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
"479 take Pledge as new Singapore citizens at annual ceremony"
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/479-new-singapore-citizens-take-their-pledge-at-national-citizenship-ceremony#:~:text=479%20take%20Pledge%20as%20new%20Singapore%20citizens%20at%20annual%20ceremony
16/08/2023, 2:15 pm - +KL: <Media omitted>
16/08/2023, 2:16 pm - +KL: I think a number of changes made . But one more crtieria cant find it. Changes is about mutiple task. <This message was edited>
16/08/2023, 2:17 pm - +KL: So if they interested, you mybe want to ask in the food panda rider telegram and Grab telegram they have their thoughts and world :)
16/08/2023, 2:25 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
"Biggest misconception' to think that Singapore will always have enough reserves, says PM Lee.
With spending needs outpacing revenue growth, Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong says in an exclusive CNA interview that he's "anxious" to continue building the reserves. He spoke to CNA as part of the series Singapore Reserves Revealed."
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/singapore-reserves-pm-lee-biggest-misconception-3699726#:~:text=Biggest%20misconception%27%20to,Singapore%20Reserves%20Revealed.
16/08/2023, 2:33 pm - +Frankie Wee: Deliver foods too complicated and limit human working hours.
16/08/2023, 2:33 pm - +Frankie Wee: https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/foodpanda-use-robots-deliver-food-nus-ntu-and-punggol
16/08/2023, 2:34 pm - +KL: I wonder do any public servant join the Riders to really know more about them before implement policies :) <This message was edited>
16/08/2023, 2:39 pm - +Ah Heng: totally agree those who work in mnc will know
16/08/2023, 2:40 pm - +Ah Heng: many are here to enjoy .... and sponge off singapore
16/08/2023, 2:40 pm - +Ah Heng: their contribution is based on daily spending only .. rest are usually push back to their country
16/08/2023, 2:40 pm - +Ah Heng: after all what's there for them to loose
16/08/2023, 2:40 pm - +Ah Heng: housing sub by company
16/08/2023, 2:41 pm - +Ah Heng: got some of them will have "hardship" allowance
16/08/2023, 2:41 pm - +Ah Heng: not to forget when they screw off singapore for their next destination cpf side can be taken out ....
16/08/2023, 2:41 pm - +Ah Heng: so if want to protect not only platform workers
16/08/2023, 2:42 pm - +Ah Heng: is more of how to really protect our country in terms of jobs where real talents are being brought in
16/08/2023, 2:42 pm - +Ah Heng: and also stop saying locals dun want to do jobs
16/08/2023, 2:42 pm - +Ah Heng: that's not true
16/08/2023, 2:42 pm - +Ah Heng: if local dun wan work den why are we seeing oldies working as cleaners, security guards, taxi drivers, phv drivers
16/08/2023, 2:43 pm - +Smiley face: Platform workers are spending more than they earn; savings in ‘unhealthy range’: DBS study
https://www.straitstimes.com/business/platform-workers-are-spending-more-than-they-earn-savings-in-unhealthy-range-dbs-study
16/08/2023, 2:43 pm - +KL: I think a lot ppl saving is now in unhealty range
16/08/2023, 2:43 pm - +Ah Heng: why not also say inflation has also contributed to the cause of higher spending for everyone
16/08/2023, 2:45 pm - +Smiley face: Income less than expenses?
16/08/2023, 2:46 pm - +Ah Heng: your income might increased but the inflation is eating into the possible amount one can reserved aka spending increase saving decreases ...
16/08/2023, 2:47 pm - +Ah Heng: again see things from both side o fthe fence
16/08/2023, 2:47 pm - +Smiley face: Cut expenses?
Increase income?
16/08/2023, 2:47 pm - +Ah Heng: the issue with some here is trying to paint a beautiful picture of the situation
16/08/2023, 2:47 pm - +Ah Heng: look garden of eden also got serpent ok
16/08/2023, 2:47 pm - +Ah Heng: that's why adam and eve got ban from the garden
16/08/2023, 2:48 pm - +KL: Agree, i dont like ppl say in nice English . I agree you mean Real income drop thus real saving decrease
16/08/2023, 2:48 pm - +Smiley face: Over ate the reserved low lying fruits?
16/08/2023, 2:48 pm - +Rama: Yes
16/08/2023, 2:48 pm - +Smiley face: Either you cut expenses or increase income....
16/08/2023, 2:49 pm - +Ah Heng: Real income did not drop sorry , cos last year many companies are giving out good pay bonus and increment but these figures cannot sustain with the daily expense laymen need
16/08/2023, 2:49 pm - +Ah Heng: ok good advise cut expense ...dun turn on power at home
16/08/2023, 2:49 pm - +Rama: Both
16/08/2023, 2:49 pm - +Ah Heng: walk to work
16/08/2023, 2:49 pm - +Ah Heng: dun eat outside taobao from home (you think is cheap)
16/08/2023, 2:49 pm - +Ah Heng: there are stuff which one cannot escape ...
16/08/2023, 2:49 pm - +Smiley face: Is it true that when a person earns more, he or she will likely spend more?
16/08/2023, 2:50 pm - +Ah Heng: dun turn on power at home can you ? no need to use internet / no need to wash ur lundry?
16/08/2023, 2:50 pm - +Smiley face: Basic needs
16/08/2023, 2:50 pm - +Rama: Yes
16/08/2023, 2:50 pm - +Rama: Miss those days
16/08/2023, 2:51 pm - +Frankie Wee: Freelance work flexibility time
16/08/2023, 2:51 pm - +Smiley face: Three bedroom HDB, monthly water/electric/TC fees etc ... amount to $70+?
True or not realistic figure?
16/08/2023, 2:51 pm - +Rama: At what reasonable rate with benefits!?
16/08/2023, 2:52 pm - +Smiley face: $15/hr ?
16/08/2023, 2:53 pm - +Rama: For a start at least
16/08/2023, 2:53 pm - +Frankie Wee: Not worth work hard delivery foods when sunny, rain and over night is issue healthy
16/08/2023, 2:53 pm - +KL: :) , if got choice who don't want work in aircon office wear tie right <This message was edited>
16/08/2023, 2:54 pm - +Frankie Wee: Tomorrow then sick see doctor doctor medical and consult fee it’s going pay sickness
16/08/2023, 2:54 pm - +KL: Ya Hand stop mouth stop
16/08/2023, 2:54 pm - +Frankie Wee: Everyday in life need to change new habits
16/08/2023, 2:54 pm - +Rama: Agree
16/08/2023, 2:54 pm - +KL: esp when u see most are local , wont it bleed ur heart ? <This message was edited>
16/08/2023, 2:55 pm - +Rama: Then, sgd15 not enough!
16/08/2023, 2:55 pm - +Rama: 😢😞🤦♂️
16/08/2023, 2:55 pm - +Smiley face: $20/hr?
16/08/2023, 2:55 pm - +Frankie Wee: Yes not enough what about insurance and CPF must pay
16/08/2023, 2:57 pm - +Frankie Wee: I think best way balance work life 6 hours off time then turn auto robot delivery foods
16/08/2023, 2:57 pm - +Smiley face: $5 for these costs? Enough?
16/08/2023, 2:57 pm - +Ah Heng: hahahahhaa now u all know the life of delivery and taxi driver
16/08/2023, 2:57 pm - +Ah Heng: 15 dollar will be what we call eat shit for the day
16/08/2023, 2:58 pm - +Frankie Wee: Taxi driver air con
16/08/2023, 2:58 pm - +Ah Heng: your earning must factor in your cost
16/08/2023, 2:58 pm - +Ah Heng: which including feeding time
16/08/2023, 2:58 pm - +Ah Heng: your lepak time
16/08/2023, 2:58 pm - +Ah Heng: aircon
16/08/2023, 2:58 pm - +Ah Heng: then why dun you try taxi driving
16/08/2023, 2:58 pm - +Smiley face: $160 nett/day?
16/08/2023, 2:58 pm - +Ah Heng: if taxi driving is soo good why not our grads take up taxi driving
16/08/2023, 2:58 pm - +KL: we try no use must ask those ppl implement policies to try
16/08/2023, 2:59 pm - +KL: This message was deleted
16/08/2023, 2:59 pm - +KL: They more wiling to do park connector ride and then go on newspaper :)
16/08/2023, 3:00 pm - +Frankie Wee: It’s great as long they can deliver foods 100 box per days hours do not count
16/08/2023, 3:00 pm - +Ah Heng: no longer are the policies makers those who walk the ground
16/08/2023, 3:04 pm - +Smiley face: 40 hours work week, or five days...a month will be $3,200 nett Income before IRAS
16/08/2023, 3:04 pm - +KL: You still ask them walk on ground . As long they do their job okay already good enough.
16/08/2023, 3:05 pm - +Ah Heng: dun say THEM
16/08/2023, 3:05 pm - +Ah Heng: normal working society already got screw up mind set
16/08/2023, 3:05 pm - +Ah Heng: espically those new grads thing everything comes on silver plate and tray for them
16/08/2023, 3:05 pm - +Ah Heng: guy like toufu
16/08/2023, 3:05 pm - +Ah Heng: gals like princesses thinking they will still be daddy girl at corporate world
16/08/2023, 3:07 pm - +Frankie Wee: $8-$15 per box
Possible order foods make it 100 box is $800-$1500 company profit per day = 24 days total margin gross profit $30k+
16/08/2023, 3:10 pm - +Coconut Tree: impossible. TC fees for 3rm should be about $50 alone. Water/gas/etc less than $20? impossible
16/08/2023, 3:12 pm - +KL: maybe the person just lie on the floor ? Always not at home <This message was edited>
16/08/2023, 3:12 pm - +Rama: Increase subsidies across all categories must go up with lower means testing but higher taxes across all categories
16/08/2023, 3:12 pm - +Frankie Wee: Budget GST offset already if they are over use believe extra pay $100-$200
16/08/2023, 3:14 pm - +Frankie Wee: https://theindependent.sg/singaporeans-say-s2k-monthly-salary-is-considered-poor/
16/08/2023, 3:15 pm - +Frankie Wee: $2000 = inflation rate present 2023 consider is poor living.
16/08/2023, 3:15 pm - +KL: i think is true
16/08/2023, 3:17 pm - +Smiley face: "Wages for Workers"
Companies should incentivize the PWs and PHs starting with the basic 40 hours work week. From 41-48 hours considered as overtime and the incentive given shall be 1.5x. For 49 hours onwards or super holidays and long weekends, up to 2.5x incentive.
Legislate the above rules through tripartite initiatives.
(With the legislation, it should add extra incomes for the PWs or PHs closer to $4,000/mth)
- - in progress - -
16/08/2023, 3:17 pm - +KL: Really ? where the news ?
16/08/2023, 3:19 pm - +Ah Heng: hurh ?
16/08/2023, 3:19 pm - +Ah Heng: pw ph = pass workers and holders ?
16/08/2023, 3:19 pm - +Frankie Wee: Is there any 30-35 hours prefer work life balance?
16/08/2023, 3:20 pm - +Smiley face: Let's try 40 hours.... thank you.
16/08/2023, 3:20 pm - +Rama: In Europe
16/08/2023, 3:20 pm - +Frankie Wee: Yes
16/08/2023, 3:20 pm - +Smiley face: Suggestions to Policymakers to seriously consider increasing wages for our PWs and PHs
16/08/2023, 3:21 pm - +KL: Orh only sugguestion . What is PW and PH?
16/08/2023, 3:21 pm - +Rama: Believe being considered but a lengthy process with multiple stake holders
16/08/2023, 3:21 pm - +Smiley face: Grab, shoppee, etc will faint and pass on...
16/08/2023, 3:21 pm - +Smiley face: Delivery companies.... willing or feeling the pinch?
16/08/2023, 3:21 pm - +Ah Heng: taxi will failed also
16/08/2023, 3:22 pm - +Rama: Yes
16/08/2023, 3:22 pm - +Smiley face: PHs..
16/08/2023, 3:22 pm - +Rama: Yes
16/08/2023, 3:23 pm - +KL: Consumer and old ppl will feel the pitch
16/08/2023, 3:30 pm - +~L: 35 hours per week in France. Many people do a 4 day week, each of 8.5 hours per day.
16/08/2023, 3:30 pm - +Frankie Wee: Envy <This message was edited>
16/08/2023, 3:35 pm - +Smiley face: How about 3 days of work and 4 days staying at home?
Lagi shiok?
16/08/2023, 3:35 pm - +Rama: Wait long long!
16/08/2023, 3:37 pm - +Frankie Wee: Prefer 4 days of work
16/08/2023, 3:37 pm - +Smiley face: Caveat....
3 days x 12 hours= 36 hours
Then the four days, hardworking you do another 12 hours.
The fifth day is your bonus day! Your company will pay you OT at 2.5x
16/08/2023, 3:38 pm - +Rama: Not in this lifetime!
16/08/2023, 3:38 pm - +Smiley face: All in, your monthly 5 days work week will bring to your table over $5,000!
Boleh or tidah Boleh?
16/08/2023, 3:39 pm - +Rama: Factoring in cost of living
16/08/2023, 3:39 pm - +Frankie Wee: Company do not want offer them salary $5,000. Is there need a policy maker on revise
16/08/2023, 3:39 pm - +Smiley face: You 'cheong' 4 days ...and you win on the fifth day onwards...
Grab or shoppee will faint...?
16/08/2023, 3:40 pm - +Smiley face: PWs or PHs work on a 40 hour baseline... that if they legislate it?
16/08/2023, 3:42 pm - +Smiley face: CPF assuming fully borne by PWs or PHs...
or companies pay up to 10%, incentive to apply into this employer's contributions?
16/08/2023, 3:43 pm - +Smiley face: PWs or PHs contribute from 10-25%... volunteer contributions
16/08/2023, 3:43 pm - +Frankie Wee: Ohh wow i have not heard it’s really 10% incentive <This message was edited>
16/08/2023, 3:44 pm - +Smiley face: Special Tax incentives from IRAS for these platform workers at 10%?
16/08/2023, 3:44 pm - +Smiley face: Must start the CPF kitty from a young age before ageing arrives, too late to work even harder!
16/08/2023, 3:45 pm - +Rama: 16
16/08/2023, 3:45 pm - +Smiley face: These CPF will help these folks to own their HDB
16/08/2023, 3:46 pm - +Smiley face: So let it be...no harm!
Start younger and you will have an earlier SECOND SPRING to enjoy?
Or you enjoy today and hope tomorrow will be even rosier?
16/08/2023, 3:46 pm - +Rama: The term own is not reflected in hdb documents but tenant or tenant in common lesser
16/08/2023, 3:46 pm - +Rama: Yes
16/08/2023, 3:48 pm - +Smiley face: It doesn't matter, why so?
Life is a BORROWED TIMELINE!
USE YOUR TIMELINE WISELY...as for the rest of the nitty gritty of what you OWN and what you OWE!
THAT'S SMART LIVING, your lifetime!
Thanks Andrew for bringing it up!
16/08/2023, 3:49 pm - +Smiley face: Wait...one meaningful essay, though not today's topic but Anonymity wishes to share with all of US today....
Hope we see many hopes in it!
16/08/2023, 3:50 pm - +Rama: Fat chance!
16/08/2023, 3:50 pm - +Smiley face: Continuation: Part 2/9
(Accelerating Performances & Pitfalls: The Jung & The Maslow ways and more ways out of it?)
Pulling it together?
Industrialisation, modernisation and globalisation are instances of accelerated performances of the world then and now.
In 1842, the British gained concession of Shanghai port for it's trades into China, together with the French, territorial leases were given to the two capitalist nations to operate their trades in five seaports with their imposed laws.
The Bund of Asia (Waitan) flourished for almost a century; from 1845 to July 30th of 1943 after China victory in the war against the Japanese; the Republic of China reclaimed back the ports and leases from the British, the French and the American who shared the promenade of Nanjing Street with the British.
Pushing it all the way?
De coupling, de risking and distrusting are happening now and then and will all these negatives become the future of many pitfalls like a big domino effect?
The last century history of the Republic of China (ROC) began with the Qing dynasty cede Taiwan then an agrarian state to the Japanese from 1895 to 1945 at the end of WW2 and the surrendered Japanese army.
The kuomintang has it fair share of it's history from Sun Yit-Sen in 1912 to the hands of Chiang Kai-shek who eventually retreated from Chongqing to Taiwan. Prior to 1938, Chiang's ambitious plan was to relocate to Hong Kong with the promised by the Americans to persuade the British to allow the KMT to occupy Hong Kong. But it was not to happen and the British denied Chiang's wish thus the alternative came, it was Taiwan.
Today, Taiwan is the world's foremost electronics centre for the manufacturings of advanced microchips.
The reciprocity of the two, Hong Kong and Singapore, the unequal geography and different historical perspectives; today, one fixate and the other vary.
To begin to understand why Hong Kong is fixate, we have to start from the beginning of 1842 cede of HK to the British, the exchange of the HK dollars to the US dollars was established in 1983, and the eventful liberation to China in 1997.
Likewise, Singapore gained independence in 1965 after 98 years under the British History of Straits Settlements and the Crown colony (1819/1867); three decades ahead of Hong Kong SAR which arguably brought about many successive developmental economics plans of growth and sound socioeconomic policies that quantum leap the island state to a first world country and at the other end is the geography and politics of the Pearl of the Orient that spelled success sat nextdoor to China which itself is Asia's first economic powerhouse of the 21st century.
Now, with the highly uncertain world, once again, we are withnessing the migration of the Hongkongers and the Chinese to the West and to the South of the world.
And now Singapore happens to be at the pivot point of all these massive movements of people from North Asia; people with abilities, aptitudes and assets all seeking refuge in a new stable land or a safe haven.
After the thunderstorms over the sun sunshining over this new silk route called - Temasek!
- - in progress - -
16/08/2023, 4:00 pm - +REACH: *📢 Topic 📢*
Ministry of Manpower (MOM) said on Monday, 14 August, that it is seeking public views on designating platform workers as a distinct category of workers, noting that creating a category distinct from other employees and the self-employed would make it easier for these workers to understand the legal protections and support schemes that they are eligible for.
MOM also said platform operators need to take “reasonably practicable measures” to ensure the safety and health of platform workers with whom they enter into contracts, and it wants to get feedback on these obligations.
💬 *What are your views on MOM’s proposal to designate platform workers as a new, distinct category of workers? How can we better protect platform workers through the various support schemes?*
Deliverymen and ride-hailing drivers who use online matching platforms such as Grab, foodpanda and Lalamove for work here could be designated as a new worker category under new measures that are being drafted by the authorities.
These measures include setting reasonable expectations for how much time is needed to fulfil a job so that workers do not need to rush, and rolling out mechanisms for the public to report unsafe driving or riding to the respective platform operators. These new measures are expected to kick in from the second half of 2024.
The new protections will be given only to platform workers who provide ride-hailing and delivery services.
📌 *Defining Platform Operators*
MOM proposes that platform operators here be defined by 3 ‘prongs’:
1️⃣ The first prong defines platform operators as those that collect data to automate the matching of customers with workers – for instance, by assigning a particular ride-hailing driver to make a trip based on his estimated time of arrival.
2️⃣ The second prong limits the scope to cover only operators that provide such chargeable matching services as a business model.
3️⃣ The third prong further defines platform operators as those that exert control over platform workers, by limiting their ability to choose their hours of work or negotiate a fee, for example.
📌 *MOM Public Consultation via REACH website*
The public consultation, which is being conducted online until Sept 4, will also gather views on how else platform operators and workers should be defined under the new laws, and who should be responsible for protecting platform workers engaged as subcontractors. Those who wish to give their views on these issues can do so on the REACH website at https://go.gov.sg/publicconsultpwbill by 6pm on Sept 4.
The consultation exercise comes as the Government prepares to table new legislation in Parliament to implement a set of new policies that will grant platform workers employee-like levels of work injury compensation insurance and Central Provident Fund contributions.
👉https://str.sg/i5sf
16/08/2023, 4:31 pm - +REACH: *Dear Contributors*
We want to *HEAR MORE* from you!
💬 *What are your views on MOM’s proposal to designate platform workers as a new, distinct category of workers? How can we better protect platform workers through the various support schemes?*
Megan 😊
16/08/2023, 4:39 pm - +Smiley face: 16 August, 2023
"Legislate and Legitimate"
Licensing & Regulations?
All platform workers includes part timers who engage in delivery services shall be licensed and regulated under the three categories:
Category of Licence:
1) Cat A for bicycle or electric bike or on foot delivery workers. Licence fees $25/yr.
2) Cat B for motorcycle delivery workers. License fees $50/yr.
3) Cat C for private car delivery workers. Licence fees $100/yr.
All categories license renewables on an annual basis with up to date insurance coverage for hospital, injuries,. third of party, disabilities, and death.
Merit & Demerit points system?
All motorized vehicles must have a valid driver's license.
- - in progress - -
16/08/2023, 4:40 pm - +Smiley face: Insurance packages from $100k to $750k; choose from the approved list of insurers provided by MOM.
16/08/2023, 4:46 pm - +Smiley face: Projection?
The projection of growth of the PWs from the present 88,000 shall increase to over 100,000 workers by 2025?
With over 80% of these workers are full timers and the remaining are part timers.
By means of part timers, the total work hours per week is 30 hours or less.
- - in progress - -
16/08/2023, 5:31 pm - +REACH: *Dear Contributors*
We want to *HEAR MORE* from you!
💬 *What are your views on MOM’s proposal to designate platform workers as a new, distinct category of workers? How can we better protect platform workers through the various support schemes?*
Megan 😊
16/08/2023, 5:33 pm - +Smiley face: https://mustsharenews.com/singapore-workers-appearing-busy-survey/?utm_source=telegram
16/08/2023, 5:33 pm - +Smiley face: <Media omitted>
16/08/2023, 5:33 pm - +Smiley face: https://mustsharenews.com/lucasfilm-singapore-studio/?utm_source=telegram
16/08/2023, 5:44 pm - +Smiley face: "When things go sideways, we go the highway and one highway is Digitisation; to speed up the productivity and cover all slacks?"
- - anonymity
16/08/2023, 5:48 pm - +Smiley face: "It will be a massive consolidation of all macroeconomics, all microeconomies and all nations of the world! The big change has began, its now! Either you are in or you are out!"
- - anonymity
16/08/2023, 5:54 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
George Goh, Tan Kin Lian double down on whether there should be any giving way, in race to Istana https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/george-goh-tan-kin-lian-double-down-on-whether-there-should-be-any-giving-way-in-race-to-istana
16/08/2023, 5:56 pm - +Rama: Blady nonsense
16/08/2023, 5:57 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
I think many people don't think tkl is a serious candidate.
16/08/2023, 5:57 pm - +Rama: Last and least votes Last time round!
16/08/2023, 5:58 pm - +Rama: Throwing away sgd40.5K!
16/08/2023, 5:58 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Imagine he is task to look after our reserves....
16/08/2023, 5:59 pm - +Rama: Big deal he increased income value from sgd28M to sgd13.7B!
16/08/2023, 6:01 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
In NTUC income, he did a good job to grow the asset.
Credit must be given when due.
But he is not a good politician much less a good President.
He come in with color lens.
16/08/2023, 6:02 pm - +Coconut Tree: 2 clowns.
16/08/2023, 6:02 pm - +Rama: Don't talk like a respectable capable future president of our reserves!
16/08/2023, 6:03 pm - +Coconut Tree: Mr GIC and Tharman should have a straight shoot out.
16/08/2023, 6:03 pm - +Rama: George Don't know that a non resident ambassador has the same authority as a resident one!
16/08/2023, 6:04 pm - +Coconut Tree: Some more he's Malaysian. Only became pink IC much later.
16/08/2023, 6:04 pm - +Rama: Former NCMP/NMP Calvin Cheng said he sees a showdown between TS and TKL!?
16/08/2023, 6:04 pm - +Rama: Yes
16/08/2023, 6:05 pm - +Coconut Tree: He's.... Delusional.
16/08/2023, 6:05 pm - +Rama: Hope Ho Ching gives him a piece of her mind!
16/08/2023, 6:06 pm - +Coconut Tree: But TKL is like the protest vote this time around. He might get an unnaturally large segment.
16/08/2023, 6:07 pm - +Rama: Just hope he looses his election deposit!
16/08/2023, 6:07 pm - +Rama: I rather see a TS/NKS showdown!
16/08/2023, 6:10 pm - +Rama: Social media says GG might not qualify!
16/08/2023, 6:10 pm - +Coconut Tree: Actually. If GG doesn't qualify. TKL will probably not lose his deposit. He will get the bulk of the protest votes.
Imho lah. Like you, prefer to see straight contest between TS and NKS
16/08/2023, 6:10 pm - +Rama: Great
16/08/2023, 6:13 pm - +Smiley face: Have to wait long long...?
(等久久, 一定有...?)
16/08/2023, 6:27 pm - +Smiley face: Alternate (just in case?)
Tharman is an exceptional talent, he is highly qualified and able for his age to be appointed as the next Ambassador-at-large, representing SG in the Arctic Council and at the UN. All three appointments!
16/08/2023, 6:28 pm - +Rama: I rather he goes to IMF
16/08/2023, 6:29 pm - +Coconut Tree: Nah. He's going to the Istana 😂
16/08/2023, 6:30 pm - +Rama: Hope he makes good prata, thosai, apum and Italy.
16/08/2023, 6:42 pm - +Smiley face: Plus IMF.... Four appointments!
16/08/2023, 6:46 pm - +REACH: *Dear Contributors,*
⏰ We will be closing the chat in *15 minutes* ⏰
Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Goodnight!
Megan 😊
16/08/2023, 6:49 pm - +Rama: Yes
16/08/2023, 6:50 pm - +Rama: Expect good sashimi, sushi and tepanyaki too!
16/08/2023, 6:51 pm - +Smiley face: Four salary...for his Courage to stand out to contest for the highest office of SG; Office of the President of Singapore!
No loss to Tharman...
16/08/2023, 6:51 pm - +Rama: Definitely!
16/08/2023, 6:52 pm - +Smiley face: One bright son of Singapore!
16/08/2023, 6:53 pm - +Rama: If only he was our next PM!
16/08/2023, 6:56 pm - +Smiley face: It doesn't matter as we are all on borrowed time on this Earth. So long we do meaningful things in each day of our life... contributes!
16/08/2023, 6:58 pm - +Smiley face: Finding the hero within each one of us, innate!...
16/08/2023, 6:58 pm - +Smiley face: 16 August, 2023
"Legislate and Legitimate"
Licensing & Regulations?
All platform workers includes part timers who engage in delivery services shall be licensed and regulated under the three categories:
Category of Licence:
1) Cat A for bicycle or electric bike or on foot delivery workers. Licence fees $25/yr.
2) Cat B for motorcycle delivery workers. License fees $50/yr.
3) Cat C for private car delivery workers. Licence fees $100/yr.
All categories license renewables on an annual basis with up to date insurance coverage for hospitalisation, injuries, third party, disabilities, and death.
Merit & Demerit points system?
All motorized vehicles must have valid driver's license.
Insurance packages from $100k to $750k; choose from the approved list of insurers provided by MOM.
Legitimate?
Companies that hire all platform workers must fulfill all of these requirements prior to hiring and deploying the workers for any delivery services. And submitted to MOM the details of their staff.
How about unionised under NTUC? CPF contributions from 10%-25%?
All licensed delivery workers must carry the ID which has the person name, photo, name of company, vehicle registration number, and QR code to allow customers to scan the QR code as verification of proof of delivery and proof of license.
Legislate using technologies?
Misuse of license such as lending or borrowing others ID or fake licence or tempering of the QR code equals to the violation of false ID acts. And the first offender shall compound a penalty sum of $300 and second offense to double and the third time shall be fined $1,000 and license impounded up to three years.
With the QR code scanning method, the company and the customers will ensure safer delivery and at the same time monitoring the platform staffs from not OVERLY work within a five or six days work week. It can also be a useful and accurate gauge of employees earnings thus a sustainable and transparent Income and tax regime for both the company and individuals.
Regulate & Enforce?
MOM-LTA-SPF-ACRA: the coordinating Ministries and agencies to oversee, issuance of license and enforcements of all requirements.
Afterwords:
"Wages for Workers"
Companies should incentivise the PWs and PHs starting with the basic 40 hours work week.
From 41-48 hours considered as overtime and the incentive given shall be 1.5x.
For 49 hours onwards or super holidays and long weekends, up to 2.5x incentive.
Legislate the above rules through tripartite initiatives?
(With the legislation, it should add extra incomes for the PWs or PHs closer to $4,000/mth)
Best Scenario?
PWs or PHs work on a 40 hour work week excluding weekends or Public holidays, this is the baseline if it is legislated?
3 days x 12 hours/day = 36 hours work week.
The fourth day, hardworking, you do another 12 hours.
The fifth day is your bonus day! Your company will pay you OT at 2.5x !
All in, your monthly 5 days work week will bring to your table over $5,000! Possible?
Buildup your CPF kitty?
CPF contributions assuming fully borne by PWs or PHs or companies pay up to 10%, incentive to apply into this employer's contributions?
PWs or PHs contributions from 10-25% self contributions.
Special Tax incentives from IRAS for all platform workers at 10%?
Projection?
The projection of growth of the PWs from the present 88,000 shall increase to over 100,000 workers by 2025?
With over 80% of these workers are full timers and the remaining are part timers.
By means of part timers, the total work hours per week is 30 hours or less.
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16/08/2023, 6:59 pm - +REACH: *Dear Contributors,*
We will be closing the chat for today.
Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Goodnight!
Megan 😊
16/08/2023, 7:00 pm - ~ REACH Singapore changed this group's settings to allow only admins to send messages to this group
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