REACH - 73. Singapore boosting mask production (SK)
8 May 2020 (12pm - 8pm)

REACH
[7:56 am, 08/05/2020] : Coronavirus: Conditions in dorms not main reason for clusters, says Tan Chuan-Jin
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/conditions-in-dorms-not-main-reason-for-clusters-says-tan-chuan-jin?xtor=CS3-18&utm_source=STiPhone&utm_medium=share&utm_term=2020-05-08%207%3A05%3A50

[11:08 am, 08/05/2020] : [Sent by Gov.sg - 8 May]
COVID-19: Factors to consider as Circuit Breaker measures are eased
1️⃣ No. of cases
- Daily community cases should fall to 0 or single digits; low unlinked cases
- Decrease in no. of migrant worker cases
2️⃣ Global situation
- Review other countries’ transmission rates and measures to contain spread
- Reopening of our borders will start small and selectively
3️⃣ Systems to allow us to open up safely
- Widespread use of apps to help contact tracing
- Expand testing even further
More: go.gov.sg/cb-factors

[11:51 am, 08/05/2020] +65 8637 2164: Man charged with meeting another person for dinner during COVID-19 circuit breaker period
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-man-charged-dinner-gathering-circuit-breaker-12713826

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📢 Topic 📢
Singapore has been ramping up its domestic production of surgical masks since mid-February to meet the needs of healthcare workers.
The decision to quickly establish local production capabilities for surgical masks came about shortly after the coronavirus outbreak started in China, Trade and Industry Minister Chan Chun Sing revealed on 6 May.
"The local production capabilities are designed to make sure our healthcare system is sustainable."
Some contributors have shared that mask wearing should continue beyond the Circuit Breaker period.
How do you think Singapore’s own mask production capabilities will encourage innovation and entrepreneurship, while providing a sustainable supply of masks in our fight against COVID-19?
👉 Minister Chan Chun Sing: https://www.facebook.com/175816112470380/posts/3161906347194660/
👉 Coronavirus: Singapore boosting production of masks since February: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/singapore-boosting-production-of-masks-since-feb
👉 Coronavirus: New cloth masks for all residents as Singapore ramps up production: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/new-cloth-masks-for-all-residents-as-spore-ramps-up-production
👉 Singaporeans to be given improved reusable masks in third nationwide mask distribution exercise: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/singaporeans-to-be-given-improved-reusable-masks-in-third-nationwide-mask

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[12:16 pm, 08/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
My close friend contribution :-
(1) Suggest putting hand sanitizer next to the vending machine - so that people can sanitize their hands when taking the face mask to prevent contamination.
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[12:16 pm, 08/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
CNA
06 May 2020 06:58PM
(Updated: 06 May 2020 09:21PM)
‘Brother, you’re almost there’: 6 SAF camps housing 3,000 recovering migrant workers with COVID-19
Another important thing, COL Chua said, is ensuring that they have *enough space to move around* within their living areas, especially if they have been cooped up in community care facilities such as the Singapore Expo.
“In Expo they are in an indoor place, so when they first came to us they were quite happy to *see the sunrise and sunset*,” he said.
“I would say that the general approach is one of engaging them with *some degree of empathy*,” COL Chua added.“I suppose as a military this is something that we have learnt over the years (as this is) how we treat our soldiers.”
This involves introducing a sense of routine. For those who are not fasting, breakfast is at about 7am, after which some will rest in the bunks, *walk around in the sun* or do their laundry.
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[1:51 pm, 28/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:

My close friend concern :-

Top covid-19 concerns:
(1) Unrest break out in dorms and isolation areas. We are seeing tens of thousands of people being *confined within tiny spaces*. Even families members have conflicts and siblings fight. How can we not be worried?

(2) Only a small number of patients have recovered. These numbers will drag resources down not just money but burning out support staff. Could airconditioned, enclosed environment and sedentary life favour the covid virus? Report said patients in isolation centre s are "clinically well" or convalescing or mild symptomatic. Could we not systematically schedule them to *take a walk outside* and be *exposed to the goodness of sun* just 10mins in the *morning* and 10mins in the *afternoon*?

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[12:21 pm, 08/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
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3️⃣ Systems to allow us to open up safely
- Widespread use of apps to help contact tracing

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Preparing ourselves from installing contact tracing tool :-

How to recover your handphone in the event of a malware attack, ransonware etc?

Do your homework everyday :-
(1) Ensure all your phone contacts are created and saved into your Google drive (cloud).

(2) Ensure you backup all your contact list to Google drive (cloud) everyday.

(3) Ensure you backup your Whatsapp chat everyday to the Google Drive (cloud).

(4) Do a Security Virus scan to your handphone device (to clean up the virus) - everyday.
If can remove the malware, botnet, spyware, ransonware or virus - good.

(5) Copy all the following files from your handphone directory to your laptop harddisk or portable harddisk :-
* DCIM
* Whatsapp media

(6) If cannot, then prepare to do a "drastic measure" to clear the malware, botnet, spyware, ransonware or virus.
You will need to ensure all your phone data - are properly backup to the Google Cloud as well as to your other personal backup devices - so that you can recover your data later.

Do a factory reset to erase all your data and reinstall the Google Android OS into your phone - to remove the malware, botnet, spyware, ransonware or virus.

Do not pay the hacker bitcoin or money -- if your handphone contracted ransonware - because even if you pay - there is no promise that the hacker will remove its ransonware.

(7) Then restore back your phone data from Google Drive (by removing your SIM card and reinsert it back) - Android will prompt and guide you to restore all your data back from the Google drive.

Then restore your other personal data from your personal backup device through your laptop harddisk or portable harddisk.

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[1:09 pm, 08/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:

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(1) There are 2 large local manufacturers in Singapore :-
a. ST Engineering - one of the SBU.
b. Razer - a local gaming company

Few questions to ponder upon :-
(i) There is a need to ensure that the mask produced must meet international health safety and the material used - must be able to ensure that.
Thus local manufacturer must commit reasonabe level of investment and QC to ensure the health safety for the masks they produced.

(ii) What are the production numbers that the 2 local manufacturers can produced?
If both can already meet the number required by the domestic needs - healthcare and public at large as well as to export overseas - then is there an incentive for other manufacturers to jump in?
However, if both local manufacturers cannot produced the required number, then there must be incentives to encourage local producers to jump into the bandwagon.

(iii) Next thing to consider is that - when the virus pandemic is over - if too many local producers invest in machinery to produce masks --- there will be excess capacity.
What will happen to this excess capacity - if there are no buyers?

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XaniceAcai
[1:12 pm, 08/05/2020] : Good and bad.
Regardless if it is coV or cb has lifted, for personal hygiene, it is also mandatory for food handler, dental n healthcare staff as well as encourage frontline who work as reception/cashier at healthcare sector , mask still must be wore.
Good is local production should have affortable price than the imported mask. There must be a cert to prove that the mask is truly a standard kind but not fake one.
1.There will be competitive mask making ppls who would like to try out.
However....
Bad is....
- For business like minded, they will try to make profile out of it. They won't think of nation interest. Sorry to say that... To be realistic.
Encourage ppls to venture out..
- if for nation interest and gov can support them by giving them some rebates or whatever fund to start up, Im sure there are genuine n kind ppls who are willing to contribute but not thinking of profit making.
2. Gov or whoever authority must have qc check if the mask is fake.
3. As it is mandatory for food handler to wear mask now,it will be good to give these batch of ppls  a discount of purchasing mask.

XaniceAcai
[1:15 pm, 08/05/2020] : Authority has to  Limited local mask supplier.
Are they producing only 1 type of mask or various type like  surgery mask, dust mask or even N95?

[1:17 pm, 08/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
The 2 local producers are producing N95 or equivalent masks.
Not those normal masks.

[7:26 pm, 08/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
That is they produced N95, surgical masks.
ST Engineering in addition produce rewashable masks of N95 grade to be given to public.

Rama
[7:45 pm, 08/05/2020] : Great
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[2:15 pm, 08/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
My close friend contribution:-

As this is a crisis, I'd like to think mask production in Singapore is an enterprising move first before entrepreneurship.
(2) In my mind, "Enterprising" means taking initiative and being resourceful. In this difficult period, medical supplies is in serious shortage, hence it is very important to be self-reliant. Happy that Singapore is moving in this direction. It is not too late, this may be a long fight with potentially many waves of infections.
(3) "Entrepreneurship" on the other hand carries a notion of profit-making which in this context may leave a bad after taste in some people's mind. 发灾难钱？
(4) Being enterprising doesn't have to be charitable and lose making, just think that it is more palatable term in times of crisis when lives are lost
(5) mask production can be innovative. There's a video in China where the engineers decided to dismantle all the existing mask making machinery, redesign and re-assemble them into a fully automated, fast production line, minimising total down time of replenishing raw material etc. Good if public and businesses are educated in how sg mask production line is different from others

[2:15 pm, 08/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
We fumbled into a Contact-LESS era not by design but rather by mandate for our own health and safety. This is the era where we minimise contact.

Moving forward, we have to re-invent ourselves to adapt to this contact-LESS lifestyle and contact-LESS economy. This warrants a separate discussion

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REACH - 72. How to help Elderly to use mobile devices to stay safe (SK)
6 May 2020 (12pm - 8pm)

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[11:56 am, 06/05/2020] : Dear contributors,
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[12:00 pm, 06/05/2020] : More than 28,000 joined in to bid during Tekka Market's first foray into livestreaming on Facebook. The move allows seniors to shop for fresh produce from the comfort and safety of their own homes amid the COVID-19 pandemic.
The livestream is a part of IMDA’s Stay Healthy, Go Digital campaign where everyone including seniors can tap into technology during the circuit breaker period. A weekly virtual digital clinic will also be available from May 15 to Jul 18 to allow people to book consultation sessions for one-to-one assistance on mobile apps or phone settings.
📢 Topic 📢
How can we further reach out to the vulnerable such as the elderly to help them adopt the use of mobile devices?
👉https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/tekka-wet-market-facebook-live-covid-19-12704724?cid=telegram_cna_social_28112017_cna

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[12:05 pm, 06/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
This QR code make sense and no security risk - and useful in contact tracing.

XaniceAfcai
[12:06 pm, 06/05/2020] :
What app is it?
I still use barcode reader app to scan in..

[12:11 pm, 06/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
I saw the barcode reader scanner.
But just need an official confirmation to endorse the right one.

Caleb
[12:07 pm, 06/05/2020] : this poster never say, use what to scan the QR code

Caleb
[12:07 pm, 06/05/2020] : but got to key full NRIC. lol

[12:09 pm, 06/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Just to check use what scanner to scan?
Normal phone camera photo scan will do or need to download 3rd party scanner?
If use 3rd party scanner, which one?
Because remember sometimes back, Google play protect also cannot detect malware put in play store.
Still can't find SafeEntry apps in Google play store.

XaniceAfxai
[12:17 pm, 06/05/2020] : Mentioning abt the safe entry thingy.. Does it apply to mall or specify pls es only..
Just share..
Just now I saw safety entry QR code board handing at lamp post..along the mrt track.
I wonder scan to where.. Does it mean ppls walk along mrt track to mrt(at least 100m away fr station) need to scan.. Then why put there..

XaniceAfxai
[12:21 pm, 06/05/2020] : Any QR code aca ner can scan will do..
Like that hor. QR code found in Lta in the taxis, sg n this safe entry QR code got to use diff app which make No sense..

[12:24 pm, 06/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
I favour one scanner to scan all instead of using different scanner to scan different QR code to save phone space.
But I just need an official confirmation and endorsement.

Ben
[12:26 pm, 06/05/2020] : Some android phones have QR code scanner built in, check the pull down settings menu

[12:37 pm, 06/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Ah newer phone with latest Android OS should have this.
Thanks l think my phone have.

[12:42 pm, 06/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Older phone with older OS don't have.
My new phone have.

[12:40 pm, 06/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Yes thanks I found the scanner in my new phone but not in the older phone.

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[12:17 pm, 06/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
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Straits Times
5 May 2020
Parliament: Spike in Internet usage during circuit breaker well within operators' ability to cope, says Iswara
Mr Iswaran said: "Based on the information that is available from StarHub, the *two recent disruptions to its fibre broadband service* were caused by network equipment failure and a domain name server issue respectively.
"Having said that, IMDA (Infocomm Media Development Authority) is investigating the matter and once its investigation comes to a close, (we will) draw the appropriate conclusions and take the necessary steps."
The importance of having a *robust and resilient network infrastructure* is accentuated in times like the Covid-19 outbreak, Mr Iswaran added.
"IMDA's approach has been to design the regulations so that our telcos are incentivised to plan and design an infocomm infrastructure that is *robust and resilient*.
"Second, (they are incentivised) to *build into this infrastructure backups and diversity* so that if there is a need... they will be *able to recover swiftly*."
Mr Iswaran also underscored the *importance of investing in a resilient digital infrastructure* last week, when Singtel and a joint venture between StarHub and M1 won the rights to build the Republic's two nationwide 5G networks.
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[12:55 pm, 09/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
How does upgraded Internet Infrastructure help us to stay home in this circuit breaker duration?
(4) Just hope that *redundancy are build into the Internet infrastructure to the home* - and *will not break down or disrupted* - as many people are working at home or receiving digital entertainment from home.
Any internet disruption - will cause people to come out into the street again.

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[12:17 pm, 06/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
1. So the Minister got to answer in Parliament when Starhub broadband services got disrupted - and cause public inconvenience during the circuit breaker.
2. Starhub probably may have to pay LD as fines for failing it's SLA.

Just thinking aloud:-
1. What will happen if malware cause mass attack in a public apps, if not careful?

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Rama
[12:20 pm, 06/05/2020] : Point noted

[12:22 pm, 06/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
So now can understand why I so paranoid to get everything right before pushing any system to public.
Because there will be liability to the government if any security breach happen.


[12:25 pm, 06/05/2020] +65 9722 9465: esp when ZOOM was rolled out for HBL in schools, they face some security issues initially and then it was resolved thereafter

[12:27 pm, 06/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
But won't it be better to get everything right before pushing out?
Zoom cause embarrassment to the students.
But what happens if national security meeting is recorded by hackers?

[12:27 pm, 06/05/2020] : agree

[12:28 pm, 06/05/2020] : hoping MOE will use this school holidays to work and improve ZOOM or leverage on other software for HBL in future

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[12:23 pm, 06/05/2020] : govt should enforce a rule that those with mobile devices MUST download trace together

[12:29 pm, 06/05/2020] : For those not familiar with smart phones or illiterate,  I believe government is working on alternative engagement.

[12:29 pm, 06/05/2020] : https://www.onlinecitizenasia.com/2020/05/05/only-17-of-singapore-population-downloaded-tracetogether-app-experts-urge-to-make-it-mandatory/

[12:30 pm, 06/05/2020] : number of ppl who downloaded trace together is very low. How can we make it mandatory for all to download

[12:30 pm, 06/05/2020] : I am one of them

[12:31 pm, 06/05/2020] : 👍 me too

[12:32 pm, 06/05/2020] : Can say encourage to download. Even I'm willing to download but my phone can't.. Cannot force right.. Can't be I go n buy a phone for the sake of traceapp or give up my impt app.
Also I dunno gov did look into those military ppls who work in camp but can't have the camera or gd phone.. So... Back to square one.. Those bat h also won't download
[12:32 pm, 06/05/2020] : I m not in favor of making the downloading of TraceTogether app mandatory.

[12:33 pm, 06/05/2020] : Individuals has to give up some privacy in the interests  of public health safety.

[12:34 pm, 06/05/2020] : yes, encouraged, but not made it mandatory.

[12:34 pm, 06/05/2020] : I alr have 2 phones.. Can't buy third phone jut for the app..

[12:34 pm, 06/05/2020] : Agree
[12:34 pm, 06/05/2020] : its not really about mobey.
[12:34 pm, 06/05/2020] : or maybe work with telcos for them to install into the system without the need for us to download
[12:34 pm, 06/05/2020] : I am struggling with one smartphone!
[12:34 pm, 06/05/2020] : money, I mean.
[12:35 pm, 06/05/2020] : This can be done just like the sg app on phones sold in Singapore
[12:35 pm, 06/05/2020] : agree that's my pt too

[12:36 pm, 06/05/2020] : As mentioned, even I download but still defeat the purpose.. Bec my working non camera have limited space while my camera phone only operate during non working hr.
[12:36 pm, 06/05/2020] : Agree too.
[12:36 pm, 06/05/2020] : 😱 2hp?
[12:36 pm, 06/05/2020] : I have not read in details what is the requirement that traceapp need.. It could be high end or..
[12:36 pm, 06/05/2020] : Upgrade your phone and data package
[12:37 pm, 06/05/2020] : Co can't bring camera phone
[12:37 pm, 06/05/2020] : Understand
[12:38 pm, 06/05/2020] : Shall we just wait for google/apple? I removed TraceTogether because it caused my phone to restart each time I put it on charge. Had to do a full reset of my phone to fix it.
[12:38 pm, 06/05/2020] : I dun have data package.
Non camera phone is very hard to get.. Can't buy one gd phone. Take out camera.. Very sayang leh..
[12:38 pm, 06/05/2020] : That what some app did to my phone too. I give up n uninstall. Maybe not compatible
[12:39 pm, 06/05/2020] : There is one being used by military personnel for about sgd400.00. Made locally but cannot recall the brand
[12:40 pm, 06/05/2020] : Ino or one... Something.. That one atas phone
[12:40 pm, 06/05/2020] : Ex n not much function. We did but directly fr the co as the org phone but very atas
[12:45 pm, 06/05/2020] : That is the 😭thing.. Sometimes, I forgot my camera phone then jialat... Cannot do any payment..
I bo bian, then I download moe parent gateway n class dojo in my non camera phone.. Those are essential tools to communicate with sch. My memory of non camera phone is limited.
I believe even I can download traceapp, it might not even support my non camera phone bec setting is old n limited memory. Even hosting whatapp might hang...
[12:51 pm, 06/05/2020] : maybe the govt should also look into effectiveness of trace together app as well and make reviews
[12:53 pm, 06/05/2020]  https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/about-one-million-people-have-downloaded-the-tracetogether-app-but-more-need-to-do-so-for
[12:57 pm, 06/05/2020] : Good one there!

[12:57 pm, 06/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
I have commented enough about this tracetogether apps.
Until the government got endorsement from Google and Apple that they have fixed all the Bluetooth vulnerability - then can discuss again.

Eugene
[12:58 pm, 06/05/2020] : maybe REACH can convey this to the relevant agencies for consideration

[12:57 pm, 06/05/2020] : Great
[12:58 pm, 06/05/2020] : I believe they are
[1:00 pm, 06/05/2020] : Yes

[1:02 pm, 06/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Channel 8 news hackers just hack into UK hospital data base to steal covid-19 r&d and personal data.

[1:03 pm, 06/05/2020] : The negative side of being digital!

[1:03 pm, 06/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
So we better get our public apps right before using it.

[1:04 pm, 06/05/2020] : govt alr said trace together is secured though
[1:05 pm, 06/05/2020] : https://www.tracetogether.gov.sg/common/privacystatement

[1:07 pm, 06/05/2020] : Nothing is completely safe if it is online and connected to the internet. If you want to be complety safe, write letters and personally deliver them. Don't even use a landline to call, go over personally and speak to whoever you want to speak to.

[1:08 pm, 06/05/2020] : It's not wrong to raise your security concerns but don't need to shove it down everyone's throats
[1:08 pm, 06/05/2020] : Agree. People download with their eyes wide open.
[1:09 pm, 06/05/2020] : Negative side of not being secure. Bank Safes are not a problem. Leaving them unlocked is. 😁

[1:08 pm, 06/05/2020] : It wasn't the app they hacked though

[1:10 pm, 06/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Not the apps. The Bluetooth security.

[1:10 pm, 06/05/2020] : but the qn now is how can govt assure us that trace together is safe
[1:14 pm, 06/05/2020] : Even government has said,  no such thing as 100% secure! Constantly update your software protection.
[1:15 pm, 06/05/2020] : Safety takes two hands. If the government makes it safe but the user doesn't, it's LPPL
[1:23 pm, 06/05/2020] : They are improving the Bluetooth technology I guess
[1:23 pm, 06/05/2020] : I hope so
[1:23 pm, 06/05/2020] : Like prevent phone from saving battery and not scan for BT signas
[1:24 pm, 06/05/2020] : Clearly there are two camps.
One that says we need data for contact tracing
One that says or rather shouts P R I V A C Y

[1:25 pm, 06/05/2020] : Ya.  I found govtech have another app. With GPS & BT tog
[1:25 pm, 06/05/2020] : So that once an infected person is  and have that trace together they can open up that file and contact those record data file persons
[1:25 pm, 06/05/2020] : https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=sg.gov.tech.safertogether
[1:25 pm, 06/05/2020] : Under beta test
[1:26 pm, 06/05/2020] : That's how the app works
[1:26 pm, 06/05/2020] : So maybe govtech giving 2 options.
[1:26 pm, 06/05/2020] : Is more like upgrade hahahaha
[1:26 pm, 06/05/2020] : Bt and GPS on battery is going die faster
[1:27 pm, 06/05/2020] : Ya
[1:27 pm, 06/05/2020] : I am testing it out. I turn off background running when I am at home.
[1:27 pm, 06/05/2020] : Ehh ppl REMINDER 2 this is not today's topic ley
[1:27 pm, 06/05/2020] : Only go out. Then turn on this app.
[1:27 pm, 06/05/2020] : Can we properly address G2 topic
[1:28 pm, 06/05/2020] : On elderly?
[1:28 pm, 06/05/2020] : Maybe Issue out a hp or a device?
[1:28 pm, 06/05/2020] : For MG
[1:29 pm, 06/05/2020] : Hope so
[1:30 pm, 06/05/2020] : Maybe explore the options of having the app but without need to on bluetooth

[1:55 pm, 06/05/2020] : NFU?  I only know NTU.
[1:55 pm, 06/05/2020] : NFC
Near Field Communication
[1:56 pm, 06/05/2020] : * NFC i mean.
[1:57 pm, 06/05/2020] : You guys notice some bus stop ad boards have NFC scan area?

[1:58 pm, 06/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
NFC like Bluetooth also got security risk.

[1:58 pm, 06/05/2020] : Oh my tian
[1:59 pm, 06/05/2020] : Again?
Why do u think so

[2:02 pm, 06/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Are you sure you want me to elaborate?
Anyway hackers has hack many handphone overseas that turn on NFC and make them pay on things that they didn't buy.

[2:03 pm, 06/05/2020] : The app just connects phones. I a user of a phone get symptoms they then upload the data showing which other phones it has been close to, so those users can be informed. Very clever really
[2:04 pm, 06/05/2020] : More accurate than GPS

[2:05 pm, 06/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Hackers hack handphone not the server.
But once botnets or malware successfully planted into handphone, they can be remotely activated to hack servers.

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[3:04 pm, 06/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/09/tokyo-2020-olympic-athletes-will-be-sleeping-on-cardboard-beds.html

[3:04 pm, 06/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
My close friend contribution :-
(1) Using recycled cardboard beds maybe useful for isolation cases.
"Not a bad idea if the cardboard bed is strong enough. If there is doubt about how to sanitise the bed thoroughly after patient is discharged, the bed can be incinerated. Not the most environmentally friendly method but maybe is a lesser of two evils?"

(2) Using sanitizers without contaminated hands touching the sanitizer dispenser.

(3) All the above will help to reduce virus transmission.

Rama
[3:05 pm, 06/05/2020] : Good training in humility

REACH
[3:05 pm, 06/05/2020] : Singapore restarts surgical mask production for healthcare sector, ‘better’ reusable masks to be given to households
Singapore residents will receive another reusable mask towards the end of the "circuit breaker" period, said Minister for Trade and Industry Chan Chun Sing on Wednesday (May 6).
This would be the second distribution of reusable masks, and they will be an improved version of what was given out earlier last month.
More: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-surgical-mask-production-reusable-masks-distributed-12706980

[3:10 pm, 06/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Singapore restarts surgical mask production for healthcare sector, ‘better’ reusable masks to be given to households
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-surgical-mask-production-reusable-masks-distributed-12706980

[3:10 pm, 06/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
 My close friend comments:-
This reusable face masks is a better one and breathable.
Good for those who need to work and go school for long hour.
Thanks the Government and ST Engineering for being so thoughtful.

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[5:30 pm, 06/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
How to help elderly and minor use mobile devices - maybe issue them with old or 2nd hand handphone and the required secured apps loaded for contact tracing.

Rama
[5:31 pm, 06/05/2020] : This needs detailed study

[5:31 pm, 06/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Reasons?

Rama
[5:33 pm, 06/05/2020] : Fearful of technology in a language they have a hard time grasping
[5:35 pm, 06/05/2020] : Digital entertainment is alien to them

[5:38 pm, 06/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Maybe government just get Telcos to collect all old or 2nd hand handphone and reset them to factory default.
Then preload all the required secured contact tracing apps turn on with pre-paid SIM card whatever Comms that requires to use and give it to the elderly and minors to bring it out where ever they go.
They just need to remember to charge the phone and ensure the battery works.

[5:40 pm, 06/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Those who don't want to use their own handphone to load those contact tracing apps can also buy at cheap prices these preloaded contact tracing old handphone.
Then everyone is happy.
I also happy and I won't sit down here to blare about Bluetooth security.

Rama
[5:44 pm, 06/05/2020] : Nice thou but should at least be 4G as 5G is slated to roll out next year

[5:53 pm, 06/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
I don't mind if govt give.

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REACH - 71. Inequality will arise, how to ensure Resiliency (SK)
5 May 2020 (12pm - 8pm)

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📢 Topic 📢
In his ministerial statement in Parliament yesterday, National Development Minister Lawrence Wong says that at some point, the Covid-19 crisis will pass but the world will be permanently changed.
Uncertainty and instability may arise in some countries, he said, and societal divides and inequalities may sharpen in others.
Singapore will endeavour to be among the countries that will emerge from this stronger, more united, and more resilient than before, said Mr Wong.
He adds that this is the time for us to stand as one nation – to beat the virus, overcome the crisis, and emerge stronger together.
Today is the start of the extended breaker. Looking back, which change has had the most significant impact on you?
Looking forward, how can we work together to help each other get through the circuit breaker period and beyond, as Singapore reopens in a phased manner?
👉🏻 https://www.straitstimes.com/politics/parliament-social-economic-costs-carefully-weighed-before-extending-circuit-breaker-says
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[12:28 pm, 05/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Looking forward, how can we work together to help each other get through the circuit breaker period and beyond, as Singapore reopens in a phased manner?

Notice that REACH WhatsApp platform is a good interactive discussion and feedback platform to discuss hot button National issue on a timely basis.
Suggest keeping this platform open even when the virus pandemic is over.

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[1:23 pm, 05/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:

CNA
04 May 2020 04:06PM
(Updated: 04 May 2020 07:40PM)
COVID-19: Circuit breaker might be lifted when community cases *fall to zero or single digits* over sustained period
"Numbers are important. We need to be assured that community transmission locally is stemmed, or very low," said Minister Gan Kim Yong in his ministerial statement.
“Community cases should ideally *fall to zero or single-digits daily*, with very low numbers of unlinked cases, not just for one day, but sustained over a period of time."
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[2:57 pm, 26/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
If local transmission drops consistently to single digits and to zero for consecutive period of time, and when circuit breakers period end ---- suggest that the following are the recommended social distancing measures will still need to be put in place.

The reasons being :-
a. No vaccines are available yet.
b. Even for those who have been infected, signs show that they can be re-infected again as their anti-bodies does not guarantee no subsequent infections - whether by the same strain of virus or different mutated strain.
c. Standard treatment are still not available.

Thus the following social distancing measures will still need to be put in place - when circuit breaker period end :-

(1) Compulsory for all to put on reusable washable face mask when step out of the home.
Everyone at work and in schools - need to put on face mask - to prevent cross-infection among different family household. (For those who can Work-at-Home or Study-at-Home, please continue to do so).
The resusable washable face mask --- must be the last line of defense as "Personal Social Distancing Tool" - the last mile protection.

(2) 1 metre apart queuing as social distancing measure must also be in place - in public areas (except PT such as bus or MRT - maybe difficult - and have to rely on face mask as the last mile "Personal Social Distancing tool").

(3) Maintain personal hygiene - by washing hands with soap or sanitizer make widely available.

(4) For crowded areas like mall, supermarkets etc ---- crowd control will still be required.

(5) Eat-in in food court, coffeshop, restaurant - must still be disallowed.
Only allow "ta bao" (packet breakfast, tea-break, lunch or dinner) even when circuit breaker ends. Because when we eat, everyone needs to remove their mask.
And then You eat, I eat. You talk I talk, saliva drop ---- and it defeat the purpose of wearing mask - and if anyone infected - community spreading will start again - as it is the most likely source of cross infection --- that will make contact tracing very difficult - as many strangers meet.

(6) When slowly opening place of worship - all the above social distancing measures must be implemented.

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[1:28 pm, 05/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
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CNA
04 May 2020 04:06PM
(Updated: 04 May 2020 07:40PM)

ASYMPTOMATIC TESTING

Amid questions about whether asymptomatic testing can be done for the entire population, Mr Gan said his ministry will study this. However, he said the yield will be very low if asymptomatic testing is done indiscriminately, as there is no widespread community transmission.
"It may also need to be done repeatedly as it does not reflect immunity and those tested can be infected after the test," he explained. "It may not be best way to use testing resources."
Instead, the authorities will and have started doing asymptomatic testing selectively, for priority groups.
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[6:30 pm, 25/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
My close friend contribution :-

Pleased to see that community cases are dropping. The next step is enlarged the test criteria for the community to institute testing for
(1) those under quarantined/SHN before lifting their movement restrictions. When the community cases start to clear up, there is no reason to release those close contacts without testing them.
(2) occupationally higher-risk groups should be tested once they showed symptoms e.g. Public facing personnel, healthcare support workers etc

The foreign workers new cases appear to be sliding but the absolute number is still high means infection rate potentially still very fast. There will be some way to go before we see lower numbers. Once the symptomatic workers are segregated, we can practise random testing supposedly healthy group to check on the infection rate. E.g.. Sample x number of workers everyday picking from different floors and different blocks to monitor the infection level.

My comments :-
(1) Yes. Your suggestion of aggressive testing is the right strategy to weed out the unlink cases in Singapore - which remain a stealth reservoir in the Community that are stealthly and silently infecting unsuspecting people in the Community.

My close friend response :-
(1) It's about maximising outcomes, minimising disasters. unless we are poor and cannot afford it. Economic shut costs much much more.

My comments :-
(1) Aggressive testings is the right approach, but to test all 5.6 million residents in Singapore at one go - is a very challenging and daunting tasks.

(2) Thus we need to priorities our testing, I suggest that :-
a. Batch 1 - Dorms for foreign workers are now undergoing aggressive testing. Majority of the infected people have been identified.

b. Batch 2 - Foreign workers outside the dorms are undergoing tests now concurrently - and this form the 2nd largest group after the dorms reported every day.

c. Batch 3 --- Note :- the community local transmission and the unlink cases that are reported everyday --- are coming from this group.
But this group are all the residents in Singapore - citizens, PRs, Long Term Pass Holders. --- which form about 3 to 4 million people.
To conduct aggressive testings to this large pool of people to weed out the 30 to 20 over cases --- will be a challenge.
So I suggest we do the following :-

(i) Batch 3a - Test all essential workers that are working now - as some unlink cases come from this batch - about 300,000 workers.

Batch 3b - Test all nursing homes - where some unlink cases - have been uncovered through this batch - number unknown - but not a big number, I guess.

Batch 3c - Test all pre-school students and staff who will be attending pre-school once circuit breaker ends - as some cases also come from this batch - number unknown --- but i guess quite a big number.

Batch 3d - Test all workers that will be going to work for non-essential services when circuit breakers end - as few cases are reported from this group - a big number - potentially about 1 to 2 million workers?

Batch 3e - Test all school going children eg. primary, secondary, JCs, IHLs - that need to go to schools and pose a risk of cross infection - before circuit breaker ends - potentially about 1 to 2 million students?

(ii) Note :- by testing all the Batch 3a to 3e ---- if there is any discovered cases --- their family members or those living with them or come into with them will be tested --- and these will have weed out the unlink cases.

(iii) Can we take the risk of not testing all those staying at home --- yes i think we can --- because if the above batches are tested - with no infection - very likely that those stay at home are not infected.

(iv) If anyone of the tested batchs have people infected, then likely that those stay with them will be infected - and this stay at home can be tested.

(v) Believe in this way --- we have a systematic aggressive way of testings to weed out all the unlink cases in the Community.

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Ben
[1:59 pm, 05/05/2020] : Matt Hancock launches contact-tracing app with Isle of Wight trial
Looks familiar! https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/may/04/contact-tracing-app-to-be-piloted-on-isle-of-wight-this-week-matt-hancock-says?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_WhatsApp

Leonard Lau
[2:09 pm, 05/05/2020] : SG  trace together app is shared to the world as an open source.

Ben
[2:10 pm, 05/05/2020] : Yes, I like what Google and Apple are doing with it. Feels like it's best left those companies now :)

Leonard Lau
[2:11 pm, 05/05/2020] : At the end , we need the big boys to lead ..we are limited by their development on phones

[2:23 pm, 05/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Malware such as Bluetooth BlueBorne attack specifc chips, stack, components of the mobile devices to do cyber episonage, ransomware, data theft, creation of iOT botnets -- where until and unless Google protect its Android, and Apple protect its iOS securely and give assurance they have done so --- only then can we be reassured to use the Bluetooth Contract Tracers.
                                                                                             
If not we will have to deal with a digital covid-19 on top of the virus covid-19.

Valli
[2:24 pm, 05/05/2020] : the authorities should limit these contract tracing apps.
only use one app on the national level, approved by Govt.

[2:28 pm, 05/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
If these Bluetooth vulnerability is not secured, malware that attack handphone with Bluetooth turn on (which is against the security best practice) - will spread like wildfire akin to covid-19 infection for all those handphone or devices with Bluetooth turn on.

[2:33 pm, 05/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Bluetooth are usually used in a private and trusted domain.

Bluetooth is usually not recommended in a public untrusted domain.

Now we are deploying an apps that requires Bluetooth to be used in a public untrusted domain in such a large scale - will need to be doubly sure the Bluetooth vulnerability must be properly plugged and secured.

Robust vulnerability scanning and penetrative testings must be conducted by qualified security agencies to probe the system before releasing the used in such a large scale setting.

[4:32 pm, 05/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Else we got to fight 3 fronts in national scale.
1. Virus
2. Economy
3. Digital virus

Rama
[4:42 pm, 05/05/2020] : 1 and 3 very dangerous. Affects 2 greatly!

[4:43 pm, 05/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Luckily 3 intercepted.
While waiting for Google and Apple "vaccines".

Rama
[4:44 pm, 05/05/2020] : Yes


[5:13 pm, 05/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Bluetooth BlueBorne exploit vulnerabilities include:

Information Leak Vulnerability in Android (CVE-2017-0785)
Remote Code Execution Vulnerability (CVE-2017-0781) in Android's Bluetooth Network Encapsulation Protocol (BNEP) service
Remote Code Execution Vulnerability (CVE-2017-0782) in Android BNEP's Personal Area Networking (PAN) profile
The Bluetooth Pineapple in Android—Logical flaw (CVE-2017-0783)
Linux kernel Remote Code Execution vulnerability (CVE-2017-1000251)
Linux Bluetooth stack (BlueZ) information leak vulnerability (CVE-2017-1000250)
The Bluetooth Pineapple in Windows—Logical flaw (CVE-2017-8628)
Apple Low Energy Audio Protocol Remote Code Execution vulnerability (CVE Pending)

XaniceAfcai
[5:16 pm, 05/05/2020] : Wow chim..

[5:19 pm, 05/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Even if a person use all the authentication and pairing Bluetooth security is no used because it attack the handphone OS.
Only Google and Apple can patch their OS loopholes to prevent the malware attack.

XaniceAfcai
[5:21 pm, 05/05/2020] : In summary, preventive bluetooth tool must be powerful to prevent hacker or virus to go in...

[5:22 pm, 05/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Google and Apple need to tighten their various OS components to prevent the exploits.

Rama
[5:22 pm, 05/05/2020] +65 9661 0607: Yes

[5:29 pm, 05/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
This is how hackers attack handphone that turn on Bluetooth.

XaniceAfcai
[5:40 pm, 05/05/2020] : Thanks for sharing.

Kevinn Wang
[5:35 pm, 05/05/2020] : simple ley
[5:36 pm, 05/05/2020] : goc tech can del another apps which force certain phone function to be turn on
[5:37 pm, 05/05/2020] : anyway bluetooth flaw had been here for years since day 1 so why bringing this up ahhh
[5:37 pm, 05/05/2020] : dun forget if user not happy can turn off wan mah, whats the deal ? the application cannot control my device function ley

[5:39 pm, 05/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
That's mean you have not been following the Bluetooth tracetogether discussion thread.

Kevinn Wang
[5:40 pm, 05/05/2020] +65 9688 1298: does not matter i folow or not if there are people who are so concern about this heck and that info lost please lah look around you, how much info is given freely by individual no need to even heck

Blue and White Flag Guy
[5:40 pm, 05/05/2020] : 大家請冷静

Kevinn Wang
[5:40 pm, 05/05/2020] : is kick a bloody dirt hill into everest or k9 sorry, megan
[5:41 pm, 05/05/2020] : simple if dun like den turn the bt off dun use the app
[5:41 pm, 05/05/2020] : instead of help and educating people why need to use and turn on the app we are looking at other angles really calp !

Phyllis
[5:42 pm, 05/05/2020] : BOINK.

Kevinn Wang
[5:42 pm, 05/05/2020] : ask us to fight the enemy we are looking and criticizing our defense plan clap clap

[5:52 pm, 05/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Or fortifications of our defense so that we will not be attack by digital virus?

Desmond
[5:59 pm, 05/05/2020] : A general comment, most CVE is pertaining to android 🤣
So my previous comments still stand, change to iPhone if wanna be a little more secure 😝

Blue and White Flag Guy
[6:01 pm, 05/05/2020] : Aiya you all don't metal teeth (tee kee) over Bluetooth can anot

[6:01 pm, 05/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
If you read the Minister comments, Apple is less ready than Google.
Also majority of the users are Android users and minorities are Apple users.

Desmond
[6:02 pm, 05/05/2020] : Haha I only general comment only...

Blue and White Flag Guy
[6:03 pm, 05/05/2020] : 🤓

XaniceAfcai
[6:03 pm, 05/05/2020] : It is up to individual to... I seldom use Bluetooth.. Only on when using hpb app.

[6:04 pm, 05/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Later Minister mandate like Safe Entry then no choice you got to turn Bluetooth on.

Rama
[6:05 pm, 05/05/2020] : Possibly

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[6:17 pm, 05/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
05 May
CNA
05 May 2020 02:45PM
(Updated: 05 May 2020 02:50PM)
MCI, IMDA working with telcos to boost network capacity buffer and ensure reliable Internet connection: Iswaran
The Ministry of Communications and Information (MCI) and the Infocomm Media Development Authority (IMDA) will work with telecommunications operators to increase the buffer of their network capacity, said Communications and Information Minister S Iswaran on Tuesday (May 5).
“This is to ensure that we are prepared for a possible rise in future demand and help ensure that individuals, households and businesses will continue to have strong and reliable Internet connectivity,” he said in Parliament.
Mr Iswaran was speaking in response to a question by Member of Parliament (MP) Liang Eng Hwa about the surge in Internet data traffic during the “circuit breaker” period and how industry players are responding to capacity issues.
“Since the start of the circuit breaker, our telecom operators have seen an increase in their network traffic, particularly for fixed broadband and daytime usage due to telecommuting and home-based learning,” said Mr Iswaran.
“Our experience in recent months has underscored the importance of investing to build up a robust and resilient infocomm infrastructure.
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[12:55 pm, 09/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
How does upgraded Internet Infrastructure help us to stay home in this circuit breaker duration?

(1) Fiber to the Home (Next generation broadband) is implemented earlier.

(2) Telcos have rolled out fiber to each home and Mediacorps has delivered Digital TV with set-top box and broadband wireless WiFI is included in the bundled digital TV, fixed phones and wifi broadband.
We can see :-
a. Digital TV - through the fiber / set-top box conversion.
b. Received WiFi - for laptop internet surfing and smartphone surfing
c. Fixed phone - can call through the digital fiber

(3) Not sure what additional services are upgraded and provided to us at residential areas.
a. Probably Telco need to upgrade the backend bandwidth by aggregating their bandwidth - due to increase bandwidth demand from home to prevent congestion.

b. Provide more entertainment content to the home eg. more movies or drama serial?

(4) Just hope that redundancy are build into the Internet infrastructure to the home - and will not break down or disrupted - as many people are working at home or receiving digital entertainment from home.
Any internet disruption - will cause people to come out into the street again.

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REACH

[7:55 pm, 05/05/2020] : SafeEntry: A national digital check-in system that logs visits by individuals to hotspots and venues providing essential services.

[7:58 pm, 05/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: This one make sense.
[7:59 pm, 05/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Just to check use what scanner to scan?
Still can't find SafeEntry apps in Google play store.

REACH - 70. Safety measures to put in place when Organisations resume operations (SK)
4 May 2020 (12pm - 8pm)

REACH
[11:15 am, 04/05/2020] : [Sent by Gov.sg - 4 May]
COVID-19: Safe work measures post-Circuit Breaker
Progressively open the economy; with proper safe distancing (SD) measures
👩‍💻 Even prior to circuit breaker, work activities on site reduced by 70%, with many telecommuting
➡ This should continue post circuit breaker
- some sectors will open up earlier than others. Govt will work with companies on SD measures
✅ Companies should implement:
- SD measures
- Safe rest areas
- Technology to track and trace
- Testing of higher risk groups
- Better cleanliness and hygiene standards, esp high touch areas
✅ Have business continuity measures
- Workers in different shifts and work sites; don’t mix and interact outside work
More: go.gov.sg/postcb-work

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📢 Topic 📢
Back to Workplace
What safety measures do you think should be in place as  employers prepare to resume operations when the circuit breaker ends?
Working from Home
For those who can work from home, what are your views on continuing to do so beyond the circuit breaker period?
Working from home will continue to be the norm even as circuit breaker measures are eased, said Minister for Trade and Industry Chan Chun Sing yesterday as he laid out Singapore's strategy for gradually reopening its economy.
"Our working assumption beyond the circuit breaker period must be this - that we need to continue to maintain our vigilance because if there's any lapse in our focus, then we might risk a relapse of the situation or a flare-up," he said. "As we progressively reopen up our economy, we need to be able to detect quickly and isolate effectively."
"We are going to encourage our companies, starting from now, to prepare ourselves for the resumption," he said.
He added that companies will also need to advise workers from different cohorts and shifts not to mix outside work so that groups can be quickly isolated if needed. The various measures also apply to companies hiring foreign workers.
"With these safe working environment measures and safe cohorting measures in place, we think we'll be able to progressively restart many of the production activities that have taken a back seat for the last two weeks," he said.
👉 https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/working-from-home-to-be-the-norm-for-some-time-chan
👉 https://www.facebook.com/175816112470380/posts/3154532304598731/

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[12:02 pm, 04/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/rcep-agreement-on-track-to-be-signed-by-year-end-chan-chun-sing?cx_testId=20&cx_testVariant=cx_2&cx_artPos=7#cxrecs
RCEP on track.
Good news.

[12:02 pm, 04/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Straits Times
4 May 2020
RCEP agreement on track to be signed by year-end: Chan Chun Sing
 The Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership (RCEP) trade agreement remains on track to be signed by year-end, Trade and Industry Minister Chan Chun Sing said in an interview on Sunday (May 3) during which he stressed the importance of international cooperation amid the Covid-19 pandemic. Mr Chan told reporters during the virtual interview.
Intensive virtual meetings have been ongoing, he said, adding that no significant delays were foreseen in the signing of the agreement.
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[4:48 pm, 30/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Phase 3 - Revive External Economy - where Trade is 3 times our size need Government to Government collaboration (1 Jun onwards)

1. To revive our Economy, Business and Jobs - External Economy is our bulwark - for failing to focus on External Economy - it is not possible to ensure full employment.

2. The trick is - how to keep the virus at bay (while vaccine are still not ready, though treatment "Remdesvir" prove positive) -- while Government try to negotiate with other Government to resume trade and production?

3. Is it possible to trade in goods and services by going online with minimum people contact - but still ensure delivery of cargo by ships, planes, lorries, rail etc?

4. If our Government succeed to convince other Government to regain confidence and commence trading, manufacturing, logistics - then we can regain abot 3/4 of our Economy (as traveling, tourism and leisure, f&b for overseas tourists will still be in limbo).

5. Government collaboration can be in holding virtual conferencing to revive the physical activities all FTAs signed, revived the negotiation and talks on the RCEP, arrange safe trading and transporting of cargoes via ship, planes, lorries etc).

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Desmond
[12:55 pm, 03/05/2020] : i think u have to coop up at home forever, have you heard about the Smart Nation Sensor Platform (SNSP)
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[12:03 pm, 04/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:

(1) Simple answer to your question.

(2) If a person have the mindset of building IT infrastructure or IT apps - without regard to building in IT security ---- then the person is building a dangerous platform that will cause tremendous economic, social and even physical damages to the Nation.

(3) Just rent a video Diehard 4 --- and watch the whole movie - how international hackers - destroy a whole city by exploiting the IT vulnerabilities - then it is more fruitful to start  discussion here - if a person still have the notion about pushing IT initiatives with no regard to IT securities.

(4) I think a person will have very short memory, if one have forgotten the Singhealth hacking - APT - Advanced Persistent Threat conducted by State Hackers hacking into the Singhealth network - where we have just toil and completed the arduous task of plugging the IT securities loopholes in the SingHealth IT infrastructure - and now a person can talk about disregarding IT security.

(5) I seriously think that if a person have initiatives in pushing out any national IT projects - get the endorsement from CSA (Cyber Security Authority).

(6) CSA is reviewing and monitoring the National IT CII (Critical Information Infrastructure) - all the 12 to 13 Nation Economic sectors IT infrastructure- and Health IT Infrastructure is also under their purview - in case a person is not aware about it.

(7) A national IT project will never get passed the Security Review Committee for any Government or Nation-Wide IT infrastructure project - if a person disregard IT security.

(8) IT security must be the core of the design of any IT projects and must not be an afterthought.

(9) After completing an IT project and then start to think about its security is a patchwork.

Desmond
[1:10 pm, 04/05/2020] : Haha glad u know some of the info, my point was a technology will not be easily decided since u still said Bluetooth not secure 😊

[1:18 pm, 04/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
When a technology is not secured, you will always use other measures to secure it and not just let it go.

Desmond
[1:19 pm, 04/05/2020] : This is what you had assumed and is not true

[1:19 pm, 04/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Example?

[1:19 pm, 04/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Btw are you a staff of Govtech?

Desmond
[1:20 pm, 04/05/2020] : U r saying Bluetooth not secured ma... so I’m saying is good enough with appropriate measures...

Phyllis
[1:20 pm, 04/05/2020] : Boink.

[1:21 pm, 04/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
You say no used.
Btw are you a staff of Govtech?

Desmond
[1:26 pm, 04/05/2020] :
Q1. I was quoting u said that Bluetooth not secured.
Q2. Is it important?? But I can tell u there are only 3 Desmond in GovTech (1 is cyber security, 1 technical & 1 is data science) I might be one of them 😅

[1:26 pm, 04/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Ok that is good enough.

Blue and White Flag Guy
[1:26 pm, 04/05/2020] :
What a Diamond 💎 you are 🤭

Desmond
[1:26 pm, 04/05/2020] :
Haha is a healthy brown bag discussion la
[1:27 pm, 04/05/2020] :
Q1. I was quoting u said that Bluetooth not secured.
Q2. Not important 🤣

[2:48 pm, 04/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Billions of Bluetooth devices could get hit by this attack
More than 5 billion devices are vulnerable to a "highly infectious" malware attack. Go ahead, blame the internet of things.
 https://www.cnet.com/news/bluetooth-devices-vulnerable-to-hack-blueborne-armis-labs/

[2:53 pm, 04/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
And Bluetooth hack will spiral into a digital covid-19 infection in all Bluetooth turn on handphones.

[2:57 pm, 04/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Ransomware can be planted into the handphone via the Bluetooth vulnerability.

[3:02 pm, 04/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
New Bluetooth Attack Affects Billions of Devices Worldwide
By Jeff Goldman,Posted September 12, 2017
https://www.esecurityplanet.com/threats/new-bluetooth-attack-affects-8.2-billion-devices-worldwide.html

[5:43 pm, 04/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Watch 3-minute footage on Singapore. You will feel proud.
16-April-2020: https://www.facebook.com/35780255703/posts/10163208178510704

[6:55 pm, 04/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Managing Connected Devices

Lamar Bailey, director of security research and development at Tripwire, told eSecurity Planet by email that Bluetooth should be treated like any open port -- if you don't need it, turn it off. "That may not always be easy with Bluetooth keyboards and mice/trackpads, but in situations where non-employees are within 40 feet of systems, like banks at teller windows, it is best to use wired input devices and not rely on Bluetooth," he said.

Varonis security engineer Mike Buckbee said BlueBorne highlights how challenging it can be to secure connected devices. "We've gotten the IoT wake-up call loud and clear, and now it's up to manufacturers to heed the warning and bake security into their products before jumping in feet first with the latest connected devices," he said.

"Attackers will continue to rapidly develop exploits to crack IoT devices to spy on us, steal our information, and even put our lives in danger," Buckbee added. "As we become ever more dependent upon our mobile devices, and the world becomes increasingly automated, attacks like Blueborne which hit specific chips, components and stacks are going to become much more dangerous."


[7:00 pm, 04/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
"Attackers will continue to rapidly develop exploits to crack IoT devices to spy on us, steal our information, and even put our lives in danger," Buckbee added. "

As we become ever more dependent upon our mobile devices, and the world becomes increasingly automated, attacks like Blueborne which hit specific chips, components and stacks are going to become much more dangerous."

[7:21 pm, 04/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
The TraceTogether mobile application, which was launched on March 20, has been downloaded 1.1 million times, according to its website.

“The team is now working with Apple and Google to enhance this app and make it more effective, especially on iOS phones,” Mr Wong said.

In response, Mr Wong said that once the app has been enhanced, the team will look at how to raise its take-up rate.

[7:27 pm, 04/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
BlueBorne can be used to launch remote code execution and Man-in-the-Middle attacks, and the researchers suggest it could be used for a wide variety of malicious objectives, including cyber espionage, data theft, ransomware, and even the creation of IoT botnets.

"We are concerned that the vulnerabilities we found are only the tip of the iceberg, and that the distinct implementations of the protocol on other platforms may contain additional vulnerabilities," the researchers wrote.

Armis notified Google, Microsoft, Apple, Samsung and Linux of the vulnerabilities prior to disclosure. A technical white paper on BlueBorne can be viewed here [PDF].

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Rama
[7:40 pm, 04/05/2020] :
Parliament: Govt response to coronavirus outbreak will be reviewed after the crisis, says Lawrence Wong
https://www.straitstimes.com/politics/parliament-how-govt-responded-to-coronavirus-outbreak-will-be-reviewed-after-the-crisis?utm_source=emarsys&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=ST_Newsletter_PM&utm_term=Parliament%3A+Govt+response+to+coronavirus+outbreak+will+be+reviewed+after+the+crisis%2C+says+Lawrence+Wong&utm_content=04%2F05%2F2020&utm_source=whatsapp&utm_medium=social-media&utm_campaign=addtoany

[7:49 pm, 04/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
At least this is a humble and transparent Government.


Rama
[7:53 pm, 04/05/2020] : Details will tell any short fall and how things were improvised to deal with the situation

[7:54 pm, 04/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
No one is perfect.
As long as anyone is humble and transparent and learn from shortfall and improve, then they are a noble person.

Rama
[7:55 pm, 04/05/2020] : There should be no unfair criticism of the government unfairly as this is a unique circumstances.  We all learn and adapt as we move forward
[7:55 pm, 04/05/2020] : Agree
[7:57 pm, 04/05/2020] : We were the darling of the world in the beginning.  We had a set back in between but we will emerge stronger

REACH
[8:07 pm, 04/05/2020] : Dear Contributors,
We would love to hear more from you! ❤️
We will be extending the chat to 9PM today.
Thank you!
- Megan

Ben
[8:31 pm, 04/05/2020] : Yes,  and a good thing we didnt let that flattery go to our heads. I appreciate this government's openness and focus on problem solving, rather than trying to seek favourable news reports.

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REACH
[8:50 pm, 04/05/2020] : Hello REACH Contributors!
⏰ We will be closing the chat in 10 minutes ⏰
As always, thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Goodnight! 😴
- Megan

[8:51 pm, 04/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
My close friend comments - something we can improve upon:-

(1) Singapore (not just gov, but everyone else) needs to ask itself if we were too box up on the learning points from SARs (2003) and H1N1 (2009)?
Eg. When an infected person travels on a flight. Only passengers 2 rows in front and 2 rows behind are at risks?  From diamond princess cruise case, we already can infer covid us different.This I remembered vividly was said during SARs period.

2. Masks position. We were new to a product called N95 in 2003. We learned that the virus is too small and other than N95, it is futile to try to cover ourselves. But why blame gov's position? Many of us still hang on to the old idea until the new cases gaps widen between us and likes of HK, Taiwan who are advocates of masks.

3. We were highly praised by WHO for our exhaustive contact tracing in the beginning. But this works well for small number of cases like SARs period. We only had 200+ cases in total? Were we basking in pride that we were internationally recognised that time? At about the same time, in some other lesser known publication, authors already questioned SG approach that it is not sustainable when the cases were big. There was no mention of possibility of asymptomatic patients. Thrown this in, the initial model of contact tracing will not be able to cope.

4. The number of unlinked cases rose steadily in the month of Mar. On the ground, many whisperings but news only published MOH points out unlinked cases in the rise 1 month later to the dismay of many people in the ground. Is the gov slow in realising and reacting? We are many years away from SARs and H1N1. Those days there were no social media. Today, we see info/news almost the same time as the "experts". Our expectations are much higher and critical.

5. The most hideous part of this pandemic is that there are asymptomatic patients who may go around and pass the virus quietly. The gov evidence-based approach then become a reactive. Remember, how many times we were briefed that "there is no evidence that..."

6. SKorea went thru MERS. They improved on their playbook. They considered technology as 2015 already had 4G and widespread use of social media. They are more cautious of assumptions.
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7. HK went thru almost a year of protests and riots. Quite a lot of them kept some stock of face masks. Because their trust with gov is low. They decided for themselves to wear masks.

8. Taiwan, I heard, before CNY, recorded 56 deaths from flu. With covid around the corner, they took super cautious approach to shut borders, delay citizens from coming home etc.
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9. I still think is it very impt we don't lose lessons and learning points, but we have to ask ourselves if we were too box in and lose sight that virus is new.
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REACH
[8:59 pm, 04/05/2020] : Hi REACH Contributors,
We will be closing the chat for today.
Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Goodnight,
Megan ☺

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REACH - 69. Test Nursing Home (SK)
3 May 2020 (12pm - 8pm)

REACH
[11:06 am, 03/05/2020] : [Sent by Gov.sg - 3 May]
COVID-19: Support measures for nursing homes
Frail seniors in these homes are at higher risk
🧪 Prioritised testing for staff and residents in all homes serving the elderly
- Ensure early detection and treatment; limit transmission
- Full funding support; follow-up treatment provided
🏡 Accommodation for all resident-facing staff
- Govt to facilitate lodging for resident-facing staff, either on-site or in hotels
- Reduces their exposure to infection risks in the community
- For staff moving to hotels: Funding for accommodation, meals, transport, daily necessities
- $500 allowance for affected staff
Go.gov.sg/may2moh

[11:59 am, 03/05/2020] : Dear contributors,
Welcome back! Our chat will be open from 12pm to 8pm today.
Please be reminded to be respectful and considerate to others in this WhatsApp chat group.

[12:00 pm, 03/05/2020] : 📢 Topic 📢
What are your views on the increased precautionary steps taken to protect seniors who comprise the most vulnerable group in our community?
Residents and staff in homes serving the elderly — such as nursing homes, welfare homes, sheltered homes and adult disability homes — are receiving “priority testing” for COVID-19.
Additionally, resident-facing staff who enter and leave such homes daily will also be given lodging at designated accommodation facilities on-site or at hotels, to reduce their exposure to the community during the circuit breaker period.
👉 https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-testing-nursing-homes-priority-accommodation-staff-12696850

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[12:02 pm, 03/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
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CNA
02 May 2020 09:25PM
(Updated: 02 May 2020 09:30PM)
Authorities prioritising COVID-19 testing at nursing homes, employees to be housed on-site or at hotels
Authorities will prioritise COVID-19 testing for residents and staff members at nursing homes and other such facilities serving the elderly, said the Ministry of Health (MOH) and Ministry of Social and Family Development (MSF) in a joint news release on Saturday (May 2).
This will cover nursing homes, welfare homes, sheltered homes and adult disability homes.
“This will ensure that any COVID-19 infections in the homes are detected as early as possible for treatment, as well as to limit transmission,” the ministries explained.
“Homes serve highly vulnerable and frail seniors, who are at higher risk of developing serious health complications if infected with COVID-19.”
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[6:30 pm, 25/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
My close friend comments :-
(5) Really hope sg is doing aggressive testing.

My comments :-
(1) Yes. Your suggestion of aggressive testing is the right strategy to weed out the unlink cases in Singapore - which remain a stealth reservoir in the Community that are stealthly and silently infecting unsuspecting people in the Community.

My close friend response :-
(1) It's about maximising outcomes, minimising disasters. unless we are poor and cannot afford it. Economic shut costs much much more.

My comments :-
(1) Aggressive testings is the right approach, but to test all 5.6 million residents in Singapore at one go - is a very challenging and daunting tasks.

(2) Thus we need to priorities our testing, I suggest that :-

c. Batch 3 --- Note :- the community local transmission and the unlink cases that are reported everyday --- are coming from this group.
But this group are all the residents in Singapore - citizens, PRs, Long Term Pass Holders. --- which form about 3 to 4 million people.
To conduct aggressive testings to this large pool of people to weed out the 30 to 20 over cases --- will be a challenge.
So I suggest we do the following :-

Batch 3b - Test all nursing homes - where some unlink cases - have been uncovered through this batch - number unknown - but not a big number, I guess.

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[12:02 pm, 03/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
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CNA
02 May 2020 12:27PM
(Updated: 02 May 2020 01:31PM)
COVID-19: Some students to be allowed to go back to school from May 19 under easing of circuit breaker
“We will focus initially on the graduating cohort that are taking national exams. And so priority will be given to those who require school facilities for their coursework and practical sessions,” said Mr Wong at a virtual press conference held by the COVID-19 multi-ministry task force.

REACH
12 May 2020 (Gradual Opening up of Circuit Breaker)
- Students from graduating cohorts will be allowed to return to schools in small groups to prepare for national exams.
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[1:51 pm, 28/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
My close friend concern :-
(3) Youth is wasted on young. How many of the young are gainfully engaged during this time? Hope at least the students can quickly return to school.

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CNA
02 May 2020 12:27PM
(Updated: 02 May 2020 01:31PM)
Students going back to school will have wear their masks.
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[2:57 pm, 26/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Thus the following social distancing measures will still need to be put in place - when circuit breaker period end :-

(1) Compulsory for all to put on reusable washable face mask when step out of the home.
Everyone at work and in schools - need to put on face mask - to prevent cross-infection among different family household.
The resusable washable face mask --- must be the last line of defense as "Personal Social Distancing Tool" - the last mile protection.

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[12:23 pm, 03/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Also noted that SafeEntry apps is still not make available in Google playstore despite news report showing the need to install the apps in order to scan the QR code.

Caleb
[12:24 pm, 03/05/2020] : From where u hear is an app?

[12:25 pm, 03/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Yesterday night news.

Caleb
[12:25 pm, 03/05/2020] : For now is use any QR code reader app, to scan the QR code

[12:25 pm, 03/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Not hear but see the demo.

Caleb
[12:26 pm, 03/05/2020] : Which news channel?


[12:26 pm, 03/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: I think channel 8.

Caleb
[12:26 pm, 03/05/2020] : 10pm news?
[12:26 pm, 03/05/2020] : I go toggle watch

[12:27 pm, 03/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
I think so can't remember.
If not should be channel 5.

[12:27 pm, 03/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Can screenshots the QR code reader app to use?

Caleb
[12:29 pm, 03/05/2020] : any app that can scan QR code will do

XaniceAfcai
[12:29 pm, 03/05/2020] : I agreed. Cos like that so many app n it is very messy. QR code reader app can scan all code.. Why not use that..

Caleb
[12:30 pm, 03/05/2020] : or just on ur hp camera
[12:30 pm, 03/05/2020] : depends on ur model
[12:30 pm, 03/05/2020] : newer ones can straight away scan QR code
[12:30 pm, 03/05/2020]  some need to install

XaniceAfcai
[12:30 pm, 03/05/2020] : I show u.. I download it..

Caleb
[12:30 pm, 03/05/2020] : or change setting
[12:30 pm, 03/05/2020] : guess now there is a missing step in the comms

XaniceAfcai
[12:30 pm, 03/05/2020] : Can mah.. Where..

Caleb
[12:30 pm, 03/05/2020] : how to install QR code app

XaniceAfcai
[12:32 pm, 03/05/2020] : I use barcode reader to scan entry n scan QR code into mall.

Caleb
[12:32 pm, 03/05/2020] : @

[12:33 pm, 03/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
WhatsApp scan QR code can or not.

XaniceAfcai
[12:33 pm, 03/05/2020]  Can go n try.. But I use barcode reader.. Can scan barcode as well as QR code

[12:34 pm, 03/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Paylah also got scan QR code.
[12:35 pm, 03/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Very confusing.

XaniceAfcai
[12:35 pm, 03/05/2020] : Every app also have leh.. GrabPay, fa epay, capitastar app..
[12:35 pm, 03/05/2020] : Favepay..
[12:36 pm, 03/05/2020] : That is why.. I dun like to download sp many app.. Phone not much space

[12:36 pm, 03/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
All can scan?
Really?

XaniceAfcai
[12:36 pm, 03/05/2020] : No no.. I have not tried. Only tried those respective eateries which ha e sg code QR one..

Caleb
[12:37 pm, 03/05/2020] : I'm using QR & Barcode Scanner app, the fastest QR and Barcode reader. Try it NOW! https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gamma.scan
[12:37 pm, 03/05/2020] : This is to scan general qr code

XaniceAfcai
[12:37 pm, 03/05/2020] : I mean those QR sign that display esp for GrabPay, favepay etc

Caleb
[12:37 pm, 03/05/2020] : Not for paynow or WhatsApp QR codes
[12:38 pm, 03/05/2020] : Maybe gov tech need to come out with using singpass mobile app and scan the SafeEntry QR Code

[12:38 pm, 03/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Oh if I see the QR code then I try those scanner.
Don't know can work or not.
But looks weird because it is not repurposed to capture the data meant for SafeEntry.

XaniceAfcai
[12:38 pm, 03/05/2020] : Those payment app, I dun dare to risk the use..

XaniceAfcai
[12:39 pm, 03/05/2020] : Aiyo.. I dun need there is a need.. I use barcode QR scan also can scan.. Still got to download another app.. So ma fan

XaniceAfcai
[12:40 pm, 03/05/2020] : After scanning SafeEntry it will redirect to like a Google form. Which allows u to use singpass mobile to auto send it details without keying it.

[12:40 pm, 03/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
After you scan does it show successful or the real data capture?

XaniceAfcai
[12:41 pm, 03/05/2020] :
I dun agreed. Bec not many download it.. Like that like force ppls to download app.
Gov got to standardise one scan QR scan mah.
Like I rode trans cab... For contact tracing.. I use use my barcode scan n scan the QR code then fill up the form... Dun need what specially app to use to scan taxis..

[12:41 pm, 03/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Huh still need to redirect to singpass mobile apps?

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Caleb
[12:38 pm, 03/05/2020] : Or using the TraceTogether app

[12:39 pm, 03/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Tracetogether not installing yet until proven no security risk.

Desmond
[12:41 pm, 03/05/2020] : if is mandated to install how?

[12:42 pm, 03/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Government say no mandate yet.

Desmond
[12:42 pm, 03/05/2020] : haha my question is "if"

[12:43 pm, 03/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
If handphone hack how?

Desmond
[12:43 pm, 03/05/2020]  sue the govt 😂

[12:42 pm, 03/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
If people handphone hack how?

[12:44 pm, 03/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Government already issue will work with Google and Apple and will update us if ready.
[12:44 pm, 03/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
So cannot anyhow force issue if not ready.

Desmond
[12:55 pm, 03/05/2020] : i think u have to coop up at home forever, have you heard about the Smart Nation Sensor Platform (SNSP)

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XaniceAfcai
[12:42 pm, 03/05/2020] : Like that forever, need to download diff wt scan code for diff QR code..


Caleb
[12:42 pm, 03/05/2020] : Ya

XaniceAfcai
[12:42 pm, 03/05/2020] : No need.



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XaniceAfcai
[12:43 pm, 03/05/2020]  Yday, it state singpass app but I use barcode s anner, scan the entry n it generate the safetyentry page fr there..



Caleb
[12:43 pm, 03/05/2020] : Try and scan this lor

XaniceAfcai
[12:43 pm, 03/05/2020] : Then jialat..
I use fingerprint for all payment app

Caleb
[12:43 pm, 03/05/2020] : And try
[12:43 pm, 03/05/2020] : Just don't submit

XaniceAfcai
[12:47 pm, 03/05/2020] : U have 2 options... Use singpass app or any QR code Scanner.
Some ppls if have singpass app then will use but I guess not much ppls will prefer to use it.. Correct me if I'm wrong.. If I have the QR scanner app.. I will use it.. No need to login on.. Hassle free

[12:48 pm, 03/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
I think I will wait for the official picture graphic to be ready before I use.
Anyway 12 may then compulsory to used.

XaniceAfcai
[12:49 pm, 03/05/2020] : For me, I dun use singpass app.i wo see will This app work with other QR code.. Sg lta scan code in the taxis, sg QR scan code..
I rather use no login QR barcode scanner app.. Which can scan anything QR code n barcode... Can even scan your food barcode..

Poh S Lim
[12:49 pm, 03/05/2020] : 👍 great idea 💡

XaniceAfcai
[12:52 pm, 03/05/2020] : Even hawker ctr are encouraged to use cashless.. But hor.. Those aunt n uncle said they still prefer cash..

Caleb
[12:52 pm, 03/05/2020] : for now is use general QR code to scan the safe entry QR code lor
[12:53 pm, 03/05/2020] : I try singpass mobile app to scan , but cannot work lei

XaniceAfcai
[12:53 pm, 03/05/2020] : I lost my phone.. N worried..
I immediately change all passwords. But I guess put fingerprint to access app shd be safe blar..
[12:54 pm, 03/05/2020] : The reason they gave is they can't see cash.. Ma fan to go n claim..
But they said that bec of rebate something like that.. So they use it..

Desmond
[12:55 pm, 03/05/2020] : i think u have to coop up at home forever, have you heard about the Smart Nation Sensor Platform (SNSP)

XaniceAfcai
[12:55 pm, 03/05/2020] : Very ma fan.. To key in the password etc.. Ppls might see what u key in.. So I prefer. It to use it..

Caleb
[12:56 pm, 03/05/2020] : mine no need password, just use fingerprint to login
[12:56 pm, 03/05/2020] : the first login then need password

XaniceAfcai
[12:56 pm, 03/05/2020] : Oic. Same as digit bank app.. One time set up..

Caleb
[12:57 pm, 03/05/2020] : ya

XaniceAfcai
[12:57 pm, 03/05/2020] : Lol.. I still dun like so many app in my phone. I'm holding one caner n one non camera phone.. If forgot to bring camera phone then can't go anywhere.. For payment.. N entry..
[1:00 pm, 03/05/2020] : Just need to consistently remind them the safety cb preventative measures loh.

Linda
[1:02 pm, 03/05/2020] : Fairprice does allow those with NRIC with them and let the staffs there to scan the NRIC for the community to enter the supermarket

XaniceAfcai
[1:13 pm, 03/05/2020] : No one scan the app in 2 of the mall I went yday to ntuc.
Ntuc staff scan the NRIC one..
Only one of the mall, need to scan the safety entry QR code.. But still need to scan ic when gg into ntuv
[1:13 pm, 03/05/2020] : Ntuc
[1:14 pm, 03/05/2020] : Scanning NRIC is faster.. They r two queue outside ntuc. One is scan ic queue n another one is scan barcode queue.

Eugene
[1:21 pm, 03/05/2020] : Glad that govt is making safe entry app compulsory for all organisations from 12 May


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REACH
[2:03 pm, 03/05/2020] : Priority testing for customer-facing staff as some sectors prepare to resume operations
Customer-facing staff will get priority testing for COVID-19 as some sectors prepare to resume with more stringent measures, Trade and Industry Minister Chan Chun Sing said on Sunday (May 3).
The biopharma, petrochemical and manufacturing sectors will open up first as they keep Singapore connected to global supply chains, he told reporters in a video call.
Government agencies will work closely with companies in these sectors to implement measures such as using technology to track and trace employees, conducting testing for higher-risk groups and ensuring separation is maintained even after work hours.
More: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-sectors-resume-priority-testing-staff-chan-chun-sing-12697736

[3:10 pm, 03/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:

CNA
03 May 2020 01:49PM
(Updated: 03 May 2020 01:50PM)
COVID-19: *Priority testing for customer-facing staff* as some sectors prepare to resume operations
*Customer-facing staff will get priority testing* for COVID-19 as some sectors prepare to resume with more stringent measures, Trade and Industry Minister Chan Chun Sing said on Sunday (May 3).
The biopharma, petrochemical and manufacturing sectors will open up first as they keep Singapore connected to global supply chains, he told reporters in a video call.

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[6:30 pm, 25/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
My close friend contribution :-

Pleased to see that community cases are dropping. The next step is *enlarged the test criteria* for the community to institute testing for
(1) those under quarantined/SHN before lifting their movement restrictions. When the community cases start to clear up, there is no reason to release those close contacts without testing them.
(2) *occupationally higher-risk groups* should be tested once they showed symptoms e.g. *Public facing personnel*, healthcare support workers etc

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[6:30 pm, 25/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
My close friend comments :-
(5) Really hope sg is doing aggressive testing.

My comments :-
(1) Yes. Your suggestion of aggressive testing is the right strategy to weed out the unlink cases in Singapore - which remain a stealth reservoir in the Community that are stealthly and silently infecting unsuspecting people in the Community.

My close friend response :-
(1) It's about maximising outcomes, minimising disasters. unless we are poor and cannot afford it. Economic shut costs much much more.

My comments :-
(1) Aggressive testings is the right approach, but to test all 5.6 million residents in Singapore at one go - is a very challenging and daunting tasks.

(2) Thus we need to priorities our testing, I suggest that :-
*(i) Batch 3a - Test all essential workers that are working now - as some unlink cases come from this batch - about 300,000 workers.

Batch 3d - Test all workers that will be going to work for non-essential services when circuit breakers end - as few cases are reported from this group - a big number - potentially about 1 to 2 million workers?*

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[3:22 pm, 03/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
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CNA
03 May 2020 01:49PM
(Updated: 03 May 2020 01:50PM)
Government agencies will work closely with companies in these sectors to implement measures such as using technology to track and trace employees, conducting testing for higher-risk groups and *ensuring separation is maintained even after work hours*.
The Ministry of Health said on Saturday that companies must continue to allow *staff to work from home wherever possible*, *enforce safe distancing among employees at the workplace*, stagger working hours and break times and *ensure no cross-deployment* of staff across teams or worksites.
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[2:57 pm, 26/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
If local transmission drops consistently to single digits and to zero for consecutive period of time, and when circuit breakers period end ---- suggest that the following are the recommended social distancing measures will still need to be put in place.

The reasons being :-
a. No vaccines are available yet.
b. Even for those who have been infected, signs show that they can be re-infected again as their anti-bodies does not guarantee no subsequent infections - whether by the same strain of virus or different mutated strain.
c. Standard treatment are still not available.

Thus the following social distancing measures will still need to be put in place - when circuit breaker period end :-

(1) Compulsory for all to put on reusable washable face mask when step out of the home.
Everyone at work and in schools - need to put on face mask - to prevent cross-infection among different family household. (*For those who can work-at-home should continue to do so*).
The resusable washable face mask --- must be the last line of defense as "Personal Social Distancing Tool" - the last mile protection.

(2) 1 metre apart queuing as social distancing measure must also be in place - in public areas (except PT such as bus or MRT - maybe difficult - and have to rely on face mask as the last mile "Personal Social Distancing tool").

(3) Maintain personal hygiene - by washing hands with soap or sanitizer make widely available.

(4) For crowded areas like mall, supermarkets etc ---- crowd control will still be required.

(5) Eat-in in food court, coffeshop, restaurant - must still be disallowed.
Only allow "ta bao" (packet breakfast, tea-break, lunch or dinner) even when circuit breaker ends. Because when we eat, everyone needs to remove their mask.
And then You eat, I eat. You talk I talk, saliva drop ---- and it defeat the purpose of wearing mask - and if anyone infected - community spreading will start again - as it is the most likely source of *cross infection* --- that will make contact tracing very difficult - as many strangers meet.

(6) When slowly opening place of worship - all the above social distancing measures must be implemented.
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[2:50 pm, 03/05/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Low Thia Kiang in ICU - fall at home hit head.
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/workers-party-secretary-general-low-thia-khiang-in-intensive-care-063151812.html

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Desmond
[12:55 pm, 03/05/2020] : i think u have to coop up at home forever, have you heard about the Smart Nation Sensor Platform (SNSP)
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(1) Simple answer to your question.

(2) If you have the mindset of building IT infrastructure or IT apps - without regard to building in IT security ---- then you are building a dangerous platform to cause tremendous economic, social and even physical damages to the Nation.

(3) Just rent a video Diehard 4 --- and watch the whole movie - how international hackers - destroy a whole city by exploiting the IT vulnerabilities - then you can start your discussion here - if you still have the notion about pushing IT initiatives with no regard to IT securities.

(4) I think you have very short memory of Singhealth - APT - Advanced Persistent Threat conducted by State Hackers hacking into the Singhealth network - where we have just toil and completed the arduous task of plugging the IT securities loopholes in the SingHealth IT infrastructure - and now you talk about disregarding IT security.

(5) I seriously think that if you have initiatives in pushing out any IT projects - get the endorsement from CSA (Cyber Security Authority).

(6) CSA is reviewing and monitoring the National IT CII (Critical Information Infrastructure) - all the 12 to 13 Nation Economic sectors IT infrastructure- and Health IT Infrastructure is also under their purview - in case you are not aware about it.

(7) I will be very concern if you are a civil servant running the above IT projects - if you are.

(8) But I doubt you are - because it will have never get passed the Security Review Committee for any Government or Nation-Wide IT infrastructure project - if you disregard IT security.

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Straits Times
4 May 2020
RCEP agreement on track to be signed by year-end: Chan Chun Sing
 The *Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership (RCEP) trade agreement* remains on track to be signed by year-end, Trade and Industry Minister Chan Chun Sing said in an interview on Sunday (May 3) during which he stressed the importance of international cooperation amid the Covid-19 pandemic. Mr Chan told reporters during the *virtual interview*.
*Intensive virtual meetings* have been ongoing, he said, adding that no significant delays were foreseen in the signing of the agreement.
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[4:48 pm, 30/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
*Phase 3 - Revive External Economy - where Trade is 3 times our size need Government to Government collaboration* (1 Jun onwards)

1. To revive our Economy, Business and Jobs - External Economy is our bulwark - for failing to focus on External Economy - it is not possible to ensure full employment.

2. The trick is - how to keep the virus at bay (while vaccine are still not ready, though treatment "Remdesvir" prove positive) -- while Government try to negotiate with other Government to resume trade and production?

3. Is it possible to *trade in goods and services by going online with minimum people contact* - but still ensure delivery of cargo by ships, planes, lorries, rail etc?

4. If our Government succeed to convince other Government to regain confidence and commence trading, manufacturing, logistics - then we can regain abot 3/4 of our Economy (as traveling, tourism and leisure, f&b for overseas tourists will still be in limbo).

5. Government collaboration can be in holding *virtual conferencing* to revive the physical activities all FTAs signed, *revived the negotiation and talks on the* *RCEP*, arrange safe trading and transporting of cargoes via ship, planes, lorries etc).
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