REACH 530 - What are your views on the case of the radicalised Singaporean? What more can we do to prevent self radicalisation and maintain racial and religious harmony in Singapore?
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26 Jan 2024 (10am - 7pm)
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On Thursday (25 Jan), Minister of State (MOS) for Home Affairs Muhammad Faishal Ibrahim emphasised that it is important for society to work together to tackle the feelings of hatred that people may have for those who are different.
MOS Faishal made these comments in response to questions about the case involving a 16-year-old self-radicalised Singaporean, who had identified himself as a white supremacist and was given a restriction order under the Internal Security Act.
๐ฌ *What are your views on the case of the radicalised Singaporean? What more can we do to prevent self radicalisation and maintain racial and religious harmony in Singapore?*
MOS Faishal said that Singapore society is still exposed to outside developments, through the Internet or social media. In the case of the 16-year-old, the Internal Security Department (ISD) said that the youth had developed an intense hatred of communities targeted by far-right extremists after chancing upon videos by foreign far-right political commentator and white supremacist Paul Nicholas Miller. He was also exposed to violent extremist material online.
“What’s important is how we can work together with society, families, parents to build a positive life, a compassionate life where we respect one another and distance ourselves from extremist aspects that can affect not just the lives of others but also their own lives,” said MOS Faishal.
The ISD also clarified that while under the restriction order, the youth will have to undergo a rehabilitation programme aimed at countering the violent extremist ideologies he had absorbed online. ISD said it will help him learn that his racial supremacist views are incompatible with Singapore’s multiracial and multi-religious society.
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26/1/24, 10:16 am - +Rama: Very surprised this latest one is not associated with previous religious fanatics!
26/1/24, 10:16 am - +Rama: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/despite-progress-long-term-reoffending-in-malay-community-still-an-area-for-concern-shanmugam
26/1/24, 10:20 am - +Frankie Wee: Not easy rehabilitation over period after release from prison. He may has addiction own behaviour.
26/1/24, 10:41 am - +Rama: Life long remote monitoring
26/1/24, 10:45 am - +Frankie Wee: If they can go through self discipline control behaviour every Sunday service committee. It will help
them renew lifelong.
26/1/24, 10:48 am - +Rama: Let's be hopeful.
26/1/24, 10:48 am - +Frankie Wee: https://www.thenewcharismission.org.sg/
26/1/24, 10:48 am - +Frankie Wee: It’s may helpful possible
26/1/24, 11:18 am - +Bhavani: Hi I read somewhere (can't remember where) that studies are being done to assess if violent people could be changed to good people through DNA manipulation <This message was edited>
26/1/24, 11:21 am - +Bhavani: https://www.who.int/health-topics/human-genome-editing#tab=tab_1
26/1/24, 11:23 am - +Bhavani: Thus, from reading several articles, I believe that violence is something that is in some people's dna and I believe this can be changed.
26/1/24, 11:25 am - +Bhavani: Thus, violence is not just due to environmental factors, influence by bad people, circumstances etc. I think the underlying factor is one's dna.
26/1/24, 11:59 am - +Smiley face: "The more stressful or despair an individual is, the abilities to differentiate and process facts from fabricated facts will be harder even when utilising the common sense of right or wrong will be mixed up. Mind Control goes beyond the psychology of controlling human thoughts and behaviors; it's a complex mechanism of Trusting and Winning the Heart of individuals."
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26/1/24, 11:59 am - +Rama: Very dangerous!
26/1/24, 11:59 am - +Rama: Utter rubbish!
26/1/24, 12:00 pm - +Rama: Bullshit!
26/1/24, 12:03 pm - +Bhavani: Stop making unkind comments I only said what I had read in online newspapers
26/1/24, 12:04 pm - +Rama: Quote with substance for fair comments. Human DNA us no trivial matter for mankind to play with.
26/1/24, 12:05 pm - +Bhavani: Reach Admin Rama keeps putting me down unfairly Please address my grievances Thank you๐ <This message was edited>
26/1/24, 12:05 pm - +Bhavani: I never said anything from my own head only what I have read in the media
26/1/24, 12:06 pm - +Bhavani: You are putting me down for the sake of putting me down
26/1/24, 12:06 pm - +Bhavani: Stop targeting me with your hateful comments
26/1/24, 12:07 pm - +~E.H: Folks , everyone is entitled to their own views and it is no way that we can control what other say or do, except to wish them the best...
Otherwise we all will be very stressed up about it. My take is that just ignore it and have a happy Friday! ๐
26/1/24, 12:08 pm - +Rama: No one has the right to tamper with human DNA!
26/1/24, 12:08 pm - +Bhavani: You are the one who should quote with substance for fair comments
26/1/24, 12:09 pm - +Rama: This is disagreement not hate comments!
26/1/24, 12:10 pm - +Rama: God alone decided himan DNA if you are a religious person. Science is the alternative for atheist!
26/1/24, 12:10 pm - +Bhavani: Disagreement should be polite you can't just say what I said is rubbish when I only said what I read in the media
26/1/24, 12:11 pm - +Bhavani: We can't allow people to be anyhow violent towards others. We have to do something about it otherwise only suffering is in store
26/1/24, 12:12 pm - +Bhavani: That's why reach is allowing us to give feedback
26/1/24, 12:12 pm - +Rama: Don't be without substance when read,write or speak. We all have conscience and intellect to rationalise.
26/1/24, 12:12 pm - +Bhavani: Stop advising me
26/1/24, 12:14 pm - +Rama: Leave it to the counsellors, academics, lawyers, social workers to analyse and make recommendations for rehabilitation
26/1/24, 12:14 pm - +Bhavani: I hardly see you quoting any article
26/1/24, 12:14 pm - +Bhavani: Reach asked us to give feedback!
26/1/24, 12:14 pm - +Rama: Won't be the way you are doing
26/1/24, 12:14 pm - +Bhavani: I said stop targeting me
26/1/24, 12:15 pm - +Rama: Not feedback per se
26/1/24, 12:15 pm - +Bhavani: You do what you preach
26/1/24, 12:15 pm - +Bhavani: You quote from articles
26/1/24, 12:15 pm - +Rama: Not qualified to preach but give my two cents worth.
26/1/24, 12:16 pm - +Bhavani: Don't keep telling me to give sources when you yourself are not doing so! <This message was edited>
26/1/24, 12:16 pm - +Rama: Nothing tangible.
26/1/24, 12:16 pm - +Bhavani: That's what I meant by "preach"
26/1/24, 12:16 pm - +Bhavani: Stop putting me down
26/1/24, 12:18 pm - +Bhavani: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/dna-to-be-collected-from-suspects-of-more-types-of-crimes-from-june-12
26/1/24, 12:19 pm - +Rama: Then, stand up and make a difference
26/1/24, 12:19 pm - +Bhavani: I already told you to stop putting me down
26/1/24, 12:20 pm - +Bhavani: According to the above Straits Times article, the police are already doing dna profiling <This message was edited>
26/1/24, 12:20 pm - +Bhavani: You make a difference by not belittling others
26/1/24, 12:22 pm - +Rama: Do you understand this!
? Reference is made only to collection of DNA to understand a person's thinking and actions. It is not a attempt to alter a person's DNA. No one worldwide has the rught to alter another DNA whatever the reason. Man cannot play GOD!
26/1/24, 12:22 pm - +Noraini: He makes a difference by thinking he is above ave, above the law etc etc
26/1/24, 12:23 pm - +Rama: Your understanding leaves much to ge desired!
26/1/24, 12:23 pm - +Bhavani: If doctors can treat us for various ailments, I am sure they can also help to reduce or remove violent tendencies by adjusting the dna of a person
26/1/24, 12:23 pm - +Bhavani: It is your understanding that leaves much to be desired
26/1/24, 12:24 pm - +Rama: DNA cannot alter a person's thinking. Manipulation if DNA is a unknown danger+
26/1/24, 12:24 pm - +Bhavani: Are you a doctor to say that?
26/1/24, 12:24 pm - +Rama: Doctor cannot play God!
26/1/24, 12:24 pm - +Rama: Don't need to be one to rationalised.
26/1/24, 12:24 pm - +Bhavani: Yes a doctor is not a god but a good doctor will do the right thing
26/1/24, 12:25 pm - +Rama: Ethical issues will be compromised!
26/1/24, 12:25 pm - +Bhavani: Does not mean only you are rationalised. We are also giving valid views.
26/1/24, 12:26 pm - +Rama: Who is we!
26/1/24, 12:27 pm - +Bhavani: I also have valid views. I have seen valid views by other members too. You are not the only rationalised member here
26/1/24, 12:28 pm - +Bhavani: How can dna adjusting be an unethical thing when it is meant to change violent tendencies
26/1/24, 12:29 pm - +Bhavani: for the good of the world
26/1/24, 12:29 pm - +Bhavani: Psychiatrists give medicine to treat schizophrenia
26/1/24, 12:29 pm - +Bhavani: Instead of medicine, we could have dna adjusting instead
26/1/24, 12:30 pm - +Bhavani: For violent tendencies
26/1/24, 12:30 pm - +Frankie Wee: How it work brain cell?
26/1/24, 12:31 pm - +Frankie Wee: Or person’s brain can ease memories lose?
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26/1/24, 12:37 pm - +Bhavani: According to the following link:- "Currently, the strongest known genetic marker for violence is the Y chromosome.11 Incarceration of all males of the species would hugely reduce the rates of violence. This simple but preposterous example illustrates the complexity of the issues, and the need for scientific and ethical rigour." <This message was edited>
26/1/24, 12:38 pm - +Bhavani: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC539471/#:~:text=Currently%2C%20the%20strongest%20known%20genetic,violence%20is%20the%20Y%20chromosome.&text=Incarceration%20of%20all%20males%20of,reduce%20the%20rates%20of%20violence.
26/1/24, 12:39 pm - +Bhavani: Thus as the above article says there needs to be more ethical research on this before dna adjusting can be implemented
26/1/24, 12:42 pm - +Bhavani: After reading so many articles, I believe that paedophiles too must be treated through dna adjusting especially since paedophiles have been known to go back to their ways after being released from jail.
26/1/24, 12:42 pm - +Frankie Wee: In 1991, Stephen Mobley shot and murdered a pizza store manager during an armed robbery in Georgia, USA.1 During his trial, the US lawyers requested that their client be tested for a specific genetic mutation found in the monoamine oxidase A gene which if present would explain his violent behaviour and thus exonerate him. Two courts rejected this request because of the lack of scientific evidence for such causation. However, if research were to yield good evidence of genetic influences on violence, future cases might be decided differently.
26/1/24, 12:43 pm - +Frankie Wee: It’s know an gene ๐งฌ which mean can lend to end life change different own self behaviour
26/1/24, 12:44 pm - +Frankie Wee: Maybe can case memory lose or kindly of become permanent disability not normal person’s mind in cell
26/1/24, 12:44 pm - +Frankie Wee: Law is nature is case human rights
26/1/24, 12:45 pm - +Frankie Wee: Govt won’t pay risk take human cell gene
26/1/24, 12:46 pm - +~E.H: My comment whenever someone complains about the gahmen
26/1/24, 12:47 pm - +~E.H: <Media omitted>
26/1/24, 12:47 pm - +~E.H: ๐
26/1/24, 12:47 pm - +Frankie Wee: Falsehood
26/1/24, 12:49 pm - +Frankie Wee: Human is nature everybody has the same gene and different traits own behaviour in body and mind.
I let said LHL can achieved everything in Singapore future. Because he come from hi father same gene
26/1/24, 12:50 pm - +Frankie Wee: I don’t think against human ethics but against criminal and justice
26/1/24, 12:50 pm - +Frankie Wee: Wonder what I though it
26/1/24, 12:50 pm - +~E.H: Nature versus nurture ... The long standing debate
26/1/24, 12:54 pm - +REACH: Dear Contributors,
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26/1/24, 12:57 pm - +Jimmy Chew: According to a doctor friend the DNA holds billions of genes and we only understand thousands of them. There are talks about engineering a super learner or perfect person but these are just conversations. Maybe somewhere in the unknown they may be experimenting with making them. The technology is there but ethically not allowed. But you never know.
26/1/24, 12:58 pm - +Frankie Wee: Because it’s come from poor family background and low life. He or she can against fair environment.
I believe history become like that
Law is fair environment
26/1/24, 12:59 pm - +Frankie Wee: Observed person very jealous and angry or hot temp because he wanted more than or even $$$$
26/1/24, 1:00 pm - +Noraini: Read an Indonesian said if person is ill, can reset bodily function
26/1/24, 1:00 pm - +Frankie Wee: How to reset the body shut down?
26/1/24, 1:01 pm - +Frankie Wee: Sometime human mind can be lair
26/1/24, 1:01 pm - +Noraini: No, back to normal
26/1/24, 1:01 pm - +Frankie Wee: Hard to read the true
26/1/24, 1:02 pm - +Noraini: Sukarno grand-daughter has ability to make good crooked limb
26/1/24, 1:02 pm - +Noraini: Saw YouTube many time
26/1/24, 1:02 pm - +Frankie Wee: Human beings
Action = honest
Earned = work hard
Living = lifelong
Success = Job
26/1/24, 1:02 pm - +Jimmy Chew: Hahaha that's death. Soon, they're validating a gene if switched off , leads to immortality
26/1/24, 1:03 pm - +Jimmy Chew: Yeah. Animal farm story ๐
26/1/24, 1:03 pm - +Frankie Wee: We are immortality as human but mortality as God exist
26/1/24, 1:04 pm - +Smiley face: ...bigger mess of mixed feelings of a group or part of a society "of this and that and here and everywhere" seem to look similar and this is a danger zone of Mind Changing and not mindsetting. That's the beginning of mining into the human minds. ...
26/1/24, 1:06 pm - +Frankie Wee: I see everywhere in Singapore past of lifestyle they are very happy and laugher. Society has many way they like to have different pathways.
I am enjoying eat foods
26/1/24, 1:06 pm - +Frankie Wee: ๐
26/1/24, 1:07 pm - +Frankie Wee: Singapore foods famous fan than USA
26/1/24, 1:07 pm - +Jimmy Chew: As we get more educated we have more choices and opportunities
26/1/24, 1:29 pm - +Noraini: There must be cap else ego gets in the way. Look at cloning
26/1/24, 1:29 pm - +Rama: You sorely lack the facilities to understand this!
26/1/24, 1:30 pm - +Rama: Speak to the professionals in this related field first for a better understanding of the various issues involved
26/1/24, 1:31 pm - +Rama: Long way off!
26/1/24, 1:32 pm - +Rama: Subject to interpretation
26/1/24, 1:32 pm - +Rama: Agree
26/1/24, 1:33 pm - +Rama: Five pofma against him last year!
26/1/24, 1:35 pm - +Rama: Remember second world war where the germans tried to create a aryan race with experiments on the jews! Very dangerous precedence!
26/1/24, 1:35 pm - +Rama: Any scientific proof!?
26/1/24, 1:44 pm - +Bhavani: You are the one who lacks the facilities to understand other people's perspectives <This message was edited>
26/1/24, 1:46 pm - +Bhavani: Mega has advised you to be courteous. stop putting me down
26/1/24, 1:46 pm - +Rama: Your laymen comments don't hold water with due respect and consideration.
26/1/24, 1:46 pm - +Bhavani: I already told you to stop putting me down
26/1/24, 1:47 pm - +Rama: Then stand up with conviction!
26/1/24, 1:47 pm - +Bhavani: Stop advising me
26/1/24, 1:47 pm - +Rama: It's fair comment
26/1/24, 1:47 pm - +Bhavani: It's not.. you are mentally abusing me <This message was edited>
26/1/24, 1:48 pm - +Rama: Spend some time spiritually meanwhile
26/1/24, 1:48 pm - +Bhavani: I already told you to stop advising me
26/1/24, 1:48 pm - +Bhavani: I don't need your advice
26/1/24, 1:48 pm - +Rama: Not giving
26/1/24, 1:48 pm - +Japanese words: Relax… have a more constructive debate… don’t quarrel ๐
26/1/24, 1:49 pm - +Rama: Exactly!
26/1/24, 1:49 pm - +Bhavani: Rama you are the one arguing with me
26/1/24, 1:50 pm - +Rama: Not arguing but commenting
26/1/24, 1:50 pm - +Bhavani: I already said my views are based on articles I have read
26/1/24, 1:50 pm - +Rama: By the way, who is Rama!?
26/1/24, 1:50 pm - +Bhavani: I already told you to stop commenting on my feedback
26/1/24, 1:51 pm - +Bhavani: <Media omitted>
26/1/24, 1:51 pm - +Japanese words: Bhavani debate have some point
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0092867400818024#:~:text=Sexual%20orientation%20and%20courtship%20behavior,aspects%20of%20male%20sexual%20behavior.
Then again we don’t really understand fully…
But DNA profiling mainly purpose is for deterrence… if they use it for study ๐คท๐ป♂️ we won’t know. So argue also no point mah
26/1/24, 1:51 pm - +Rama: Submit those articles to the relevant government agencies or ministries for advice.
26/1/24, 1:51 pm - +Bhavani: Look at your name Rama above
26/1/24, 1:51 pm - +Bhavani: I said stop giving me advice
26/1/24, 1:52 pm - +Bhavani: This is a feedback channel
26/1/24, 1:52 pm - +Rama: Andrew is my name unless you are talking to my father who six foot under
26/1/24, 1:52 pm - +Rama: Which is what I an giving
26/1/24, 1:52 pm - +Bhavani: I don't need you to give me feedback!
26/1/24, 1:52 pm - +Frankie Wee: Mean need more sex to make man feeling better understand dna ๐งฌ
26/1/24, 1:52 pm - +Rama: This is subject to further investigation.
26/1/24, 1:53 pm - +Japanese words: Sensitive topic of nature and nurture… too bad it is sensitive so no government will fund such research
26/1/24, 1:53 pm - +Rama: Rubbish. More self control not sex.
26/1/24, 1:53 pm - +Bhavani: I already told you Andrew many times to stop mentally harassing me <This message was edited>
26/1/24, 1:53 pm - +Japanese words: How it was funded in the first place I didn’t read about it
26/1/24, 1:53 pm - +Frankie Wee: Actual mindset is about crime how they change better and improved self discipline
26/1/24, 1:53 pm - +Rama: Maybe in the distant future.
26/1/24, 1:54 pm - +Rama: Underground research possibly ongoing
26/1/24, 1:55 pm - +Rama: It comes unfortunately not necessarily with fair comment sadly.
26/1/24, 1:55 pm - +Bhavani: Stop commenting on my comments
26/1/24, 1:55 pm - +Bhavani: You are making unfair and unkind comments
26/1/24, 1:56 pm - +Bhavani: Without providing any sources!
26/1/24, 1:58 pm - +Bhavani: Reach will judge whether my comments have basis or not
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26/1/24, 2:17 pm - +Smiley face: ...Its about Experienced, Experiencing and Experimenting over time will form a person Mind , Beliefs and Behaviors. If the mind is set, perhaps there will be no room for changes?...
26/1/24, 2:19 pm - +Bhavani: Maybe meditation might be a good way to change the mind of violent individuals <This message was edited>
26/1/24, 2:21 pm - +Jimmy Chew: It's challenging for a drug addict. We are all addicted to something. Just that it's legalized ๐
26/1/24, 2:21 pm - +Bhavani: It's been scientifically proven that meditation can calm the mind of agitated people
26/1/24, 2:22 pm - +Jimmy Chew: If they want to learnt it. Different strokes for different folks
26/1/24, 2:22 pm - +Frankie Wee: I believe this person has proven mindset is self esteem to become negative whenever he wish to end
26/1/24, 2:22 pm - +Bhavani: meditation should be made compulsory for violent people
26/1/24, 2:23 pm - +Frankie Wee: If there is a room to change only one way make them to realise but will never.
26/1/24, 2:23 pm - +Jimmy Chew: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/commentary/simplygo-ezlink-nets-lta-uturn-smart-nation-4073586
26/1/24, 2:24 pm - +Frankie Wee: Can police or social what will do wit your life? He is alway silent
26/1/24, 2:24 pm - +Jimmy Chew: Meaningful statement. The system should help people. Hahaha not the other way round. Kudos for LTA to change around <This message was edited>
26/1/24, 2:25 pm - +Smiley face: Radicalization is to manipulate the mind to change into a non rational thinker; the key is UNIQUE traits and behaviors of Individuals to watch for !....
26/1/24, 2:25 pm - +Thai Language: Talk rubbish . One is mold with violence , they will never change. even they change , the character is still there
26/1/24, 2:26 pm - +Jimmy Chew: Ultimately they need to trust the leader to change if not it's difficult <This message was edited>
26/1/24, 2:26 pm - +Noraini: Very true
26/1/24, 2:28 pm - +Frankie Wee: It’s up to the ex-convict turn back the law will have to nothing on criminal. It’s alway the same.
26/1/24, 2:28 pm - +Smiley face: How to control minds?
Patience pays! Personality and Character are values and judgment of individuals formative years of education, it means from age 6 to 16-18 years...
26/1/24, 2:28 pm - +Frankie Wee: Self esteem only
26/1/24, 2:28 pm - +Jimmy Chew: Overhead in the MRT, our government doesn't care too shit about us. I turned around and saw a Middle aged guy talking on the phone
26/1/24, 2:29 pm - +Jimmy Chew: So if they think the leaders don't care and the radicalized ones do. Then they will flip <This message was edited>
26/1/24, 2:30 pm - +Frankie Wee: Till they grown too old and too later. Something make them learn lesson mistake by not wanted to accept self responsibility or discipline.
Ensure lifelong is a contribution who has work for building and grown value society
26/1/24, 2:31 pm - +Jimmy Chew: We should start at children level and family. What values we should have. I think the reason for the Jan 6 is because I heard they stopped teaching Americam history in schools. Not sure whether this is true.
26/1/24, 2:31 pm - +Jimmy Chew: Pure speculation
26/1/24, 2:33 pm - +Noraini: We may take this group as case study. This Rama guy is prime candidate
26/1/24, 2:33 pm - +Jimmy Chew: ?
26/1/24, 2:35 pm - +Noraini: Sheep never change cloth. Even after several call to be more gentle, he is selectively savage
26/1/24, 2:36 pm - +Smiley face: It's ever urgent now to embark onto Mentoring at the age of 15 onwards, that's secondary three onwards.
Circumstances of a family are different from the next, so to solely rely on School Counselling protocol of interventions is a path towards many gaps and pitfalls of our next generation of Youth.
26/1/24, 2:37 pm - +Smiley face: If you believe that humankind is an adaptive and evolving species so does the brain that is the controlling centre of a Human's mind to act, to react or to proact....
26/1/24, 2:38 pm - +Bhavani: Some youth might also turn to radicalisation if they face injustice or their parents face injustice (if these youths are filial towards their parents) <This message was edited>
26/1/24, 2:38 pm - +Smiley face: Attitude counts...?
26/1/24, 2:40 pm - +Bhavani: Before youths become radicalised, we must intervene and find out what difficulties all youths face
26/1/24, 2:41 pm - +Frankie Wee: Ask teenage boys will you go to war? What if you cry and killing many soldiers in Russia. Are they too afraid to death.
It’s a self psychological
26/1/24, 2:44 pm - +Bhavani: We must especially find out if they are facing any injustice
26/1/24, 2:45 pm - +Frankie Wee: Passion of life under age injustice
26/1/24, 2:52 pm - +Smiley face: This message was deleted
26/1/24, 2:53 pm - +Smiley face: What is success and what is failure for a 6 year old, 12 years old and 16 years old?
All of these junctions of one's early childhood will mould and shape individuals from teenager to young adult. Attitude, Personality and Character are formed...
The more failures one experienced or experiencing now, the higher one lost Hope for tomorrow! It's like living today and don't know about tomorrow?
Fact is today is the beginning of tomorrow to come? Arguably, spiritually speaking it is NOW that matters than tomorrow?
26/1/24, 2:55 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
1. Human are not born savage or cruel.
ไบบไนๅ，ๆงๆฌๅ。
2. When a child is born, have we seen children are cruel, savage or have no regard to human lives?
3. Often, it is the family members they live in, their upbringing (is it coming from a happy family or broken family, or abusive family), the environment they live with, the people they mix and interact with, the news or information they read online --- cause people to change their behavior.
4. Hence, particular attention should be paid to:
a. Broken family
b. Abusive family
c. People who are anti-social
d. People who display radical thinking, post radical views, possess extremists view.
5. Imparting positive views, positive social interaction, mutual respect become important in schools, community, workplace.
6. People are free to practise their religious faith that they feel affiliated with. But they must also respect other mainstream faiths - that promote peace, mutual respect, compassion, peaceful coexistence and mutual inclusiveness.
26/1/24, 2:56 pm - +Frankie Wee: Teenage run away from home
26/1/24, 2:56 pm - +Frankie Wee: Become homeless
26/1/24, 2:59 pm - +Rama: Drinking coffee with ISD has already covered this.
26/1/24, 3:00 pm - +Rama: One form of positive therapy.
26/1/24, 3:01 pm - +Rama: Must be able to spot the signs early on and seek appropriate treatment.
26/1/24, 3:02 pm - +Smiley face: This message was deleted
26/1/24, 3:02 pm - +Rama: Each one has their unique DNA.
26/1/24, 3:03 pm - +Rama: Influence by bad people, taken advantage.
26/1/24, 3:03 pm - +Rama: Singapore teenagers are not in touch with either regional or word events.
26/1/24, 3:08 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
1. Inherently, all human and beings come with 3 negative attributes :-
a. Anger, Hatred - can be subtle or manifest
b. Greed - for money, power
c. Ignorance - how people should interact to prevent friction, able to accomodate one another without resoring to animosity.
2. Looking at ourselves as individual, looking at how Countries fight one another, looking at how terrorism sprout in groups.
3. All possess the 3 inherent negative attributes of :-
a. Hatred, Anger
b. Greed for power
c. Ignorance - on the need to coeexist with mutual respect
--- Hence conflict arise, anti-social behavior that disrupt community peace arise.
4. Only managing, controling and eradicating these 3 negative attributes can prevent radicalisation from rearing its head.
5. Specifically, 3 positive attributes - that can neutralise Hatred/Anger, Greed and Ignorance are:-
a. Compassion/Universal Love (ability to accomodate and accept diversity) - to neutralise Hatred/Anger
b. Selfless to neutralise Greed
c. Wisdom to neutralise Ignorance
- should be developed and prevent radicalisation, intolerance from arising.
26/1/24, 3:10 pm - +Thai Language: Wait long long , they just grab the child away and anyhow charge parent . They pyscho the child and make them against their parent. They can even said please protect the child from psychical and emotion harm . Really rubbish . If the parent had to avoid the child sensitive or short fall to prevent above harm . what is the purpose of having a child. These officers are pushing the child to commit more crime due to over protective on them . Recently has ISS , then river valley, then rob gold smith shop, then molest aunty. These are the thing that the officers had create due to over protective. Who answer the crime charge , we parent. So what is the purpose of having a child and cannot educate them. Those officers will just play tai chi. A English verse said, Never spare a rod to spoil a child.
Show more compassion to broken families then create more problem.
26/1/24, 3:11 pm - +Rama: Agree
26/1/24, 3:11 pm - +Thai Language: A child is a white paper , parent draw what they became what. But if officers draw rubbish , they will become rubbish due to over protective and pamper .
26/1/24, 3:11 pm - +Rama: Yes
26/1/24, 3:15 pm - +Thai Language: No one in the society can be kind in words or action to anyone one. Just because the child is sensitive to certain topic or object, we have to avoid . this rubbish. The child will be come worst . The child have to learn and accept the cruelty of society and not keep under stupid officer wings. If they got into criminal, is the officers going to answer for it, OF COURSE NO. In one of the Singapore Children Homes are doing this , they teach the parent to avoid sensitive topics when talking to the child and the best these home is asking donation from Singaporean. This is terrible.
26/1/24, 3:16 pm - +Rama: Yes
26/1/24, 3:16 pm - +Thai Language: Hence Singapore is not a country to nurture children as more children crime will arose because of this
26/1/24, 3:17 pm - +Rama: Agree
26/1/24, 3:18 pm - +Thai Language: Singaporean wake up. Look around , how may children criminal now, it is going up the trend .
26/1/24, 3:19 pm - +Bhavani: Climate change when it becomes too hot to handle and overpopulation could also cause mental strain and might lead one to become radicalised
26/1/24, 3:19 pm - +Frankie Wee: Did parent no time for child?
26/1/24, 3:19 pm - +Rama: Social services need soul searching!
26/1/24, 3:19 pm - +Rama: Quite common
26/1/24, 3:20 pm - +Thai Language: Applause for the ISS Child, because of what the officers did , he turn to ISS. It is a form of recognize. Idf the officers stop doing rubbish , will the child turn to ISS.
26/1/24, 3:20 pm - +Frankie Wee: Malay Muslim problem
26/1/24, 3:21 pm - +Frankie Wee: Religion teach wrong way
26/1/24, 3:21 pm - +Bhavani: I have seen families where even when the mother raised her child with affection, the child grew up ignoring the mother and inheriting selfish and jealous characteristics from her grandma's brother
26/1/24, 3:21 pm - +Bhavani: Thus not resembling her mother at all
26/1/24, 3:22 pm - +Bhavani: This is one of the reasons why I said DNA modification should be looked into
26/1/24, 3:22 pm - +Thai Language: Which parent has no time for children . No matter how busy they will still squeeze time out, after all itis their children , it is the parent responsibility not the officers. In Singapore , every is so expensive, parent will work hard to a bit more to support the families but they will sure still spend time educate their kids. It need to strike a balance in all .
26/1/24, 3:23 pm - +Bhavani: Raising a child, especially a teenager, is not at all easy. One needs to raise to understand the difficulty. Even girls are uncontrollable nowadays. <This message was edited>
26/1/24, 3:24 pm - +Frankie Wee: Feeling sad nothing can help
Child should understand that parent have to work feed family and rising.
Did any company should have childcare leave
26/1/24, 3:24 pm - +Thai Language: This is over pampering. They must strike a balance, no means no . yes mean yes . And not when the child need, just give. Whne the child is sensitive or dun like on certain topic, they avoid. This cannot work
26/1/24, 3:25 pm - +Frankie Wee: https://www.mom.gov.sg/employment-practices/leave/childcare-leave/eligibility-and-entitlement
26/1/24, 3:25 pm - +Thai Language: Wait long long MOH said yes, but a lot company not following. U take u will the face color change
26/1/24, 3:25 pm - +Bhavani: The mother did not pamper the child but raised her in a balanced way. Yet the child shunned the mother to the point that she did not even show her child to her mother.
26/1/24, 3:26 pm - +Frankie Wee: Child is a mould future learning
26/1/24, 3:26 pm - +Thai Language: Then it is her way of education went wrong.
26/1/24, 3:26 pm - +Frankie Wee: Is from a beginning
26/1/24, 3:27 pm - +Bhavani: Not all children can be moulded. Dna is at play here because some children inherit bad characteristics of their relatives.
26/1/24, 3:27 pm - +Thai Language: From young if she teach in a proper way , the child will behave like that . Or maybe the child saw wat his mum had done to other, so they follow. It is a mirror of impact . Parent do A the do A
26/1/24, 3:28 pm - +Frankie Wee: DNA come mother or father who follow foot step.
26/1/24, 3:28 pm - +Bhavani: Nope she raised her the best she could but the child inherited bad characteristics of her uncle
26/1/24, 3:28 pm - +Bhavani: Our dna does not just come from our mother and father but also from our mother's and father's family.
26/1/24, 3:29 pm - +Thai Language: Yes argee, hence he need to stay away from the uncle. It is like a mirror . The more u mix with the bad , the worst u are. So children in young parent should guide and set good example
26/1/24, 3:29 pm - +Bhavani: This is why some children could be so different from their mothers and fathers
26/1/24, 3:29 pm - +Frankie Wee: Mother or father teach the same way when children grow up different destinations way
26/1/24, 3:30 pm - +Bhavani: She never mixed with her uncle, yet inherited certain bad traits like jealousy and selfishness from him <This message was edited>
26/1/24, 3:30 pm - +Frankie Wee: Where environment they leading view
26/1/24, 3:32 pm - +Bhavani: This is why it is so wrong to blame parents for everything when children do not behave despite parents desperate attempts to control their children's wayward ways. <This message was edited>
26/1/24, 3:32 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
1. Have the opportunity to observe the rehabilitation process of inmates, boy's home and girl's home.
2. Some come from broken homes, abusive families, some take drugs, some join gangs, some commit crimes, some fight.
3. But those i observe are determine to get themselves rehabilitated - as I observe some are hardworking, polite, respect the authority, and they carried out their tasks well assigned by the Prison officers.
Some even study hard for their courses they take.
I was quite impressed by the SCORE who formulate many courses for the inmates that genuinely want the inmates to acquire skills and knowledge - so that they can get rehabilitated and become a useful members of the society.
4. I also was told that inmates upon released are able to gain employment for enterprises that work with SCORE to place them into jobs.
Many are able to find jobs and can sustain their livelihood and their families members - and prevent them from falling back into crimes.
5. It is a consolation to realise that even inmates can be rehabilitated under the "Yellow Ribbon" - and inmates do want to change for the better.
I can see and feel the inmates eagerness to change for the better.
I am not sure, if every inmates can be reformed, but at least those I come into contact with display their eagerness not to commit offences again.
Hence, I feel that ไบบไนๅ，ๆงๆฌๅ。
(Human origin is Kind) is a sound concept.
26/1/24, 3:32 pm - +Thai Language: In England, there is study or research . They put educate children in one bad group and bad children in one good group for 6 months. After 12 month the bad children became well manner , the educate children became hooligan. So environment is also a factor
26/1/24, 3:33 pm - +Frankie Wee: Well fact I can telling the reason.
Parent has own saving and couldn’t divide them.
Child grow up getting more difficult and wanted a brand
26/1/24, 3:33 pm - +Thai Language: Children home in Singapore is the worst place for children all good and bad are mix.
26/1/24, 3:34 pm - +Frankie Wee: It’s great gift by parent but child said parent are not rich
26/1/24, 3:34 pm - +Frankie Wee: End up mix bad company other group
26/1/24, 3:46 pm - +Frankie Wee: Hope there LOVE every parent concerned.
26/1/24, 4:00 pm - +REACH: ๐ข *Topic* ๐ข
26/1/24, 4:13 pm - +Rama: Interpretation by various shite/sunni iman and mufti causing confusion and resentment.
26/1/24, 4:14 pm - +Rama: Like housing and family size
26/1/24, 4:15 pm - +Rama: Sad
26/1/24, 4:16 pm - +Rama: Crap!
26/1/24, 4:16 pm - +Rama: Quality time bonding lacking
26/1/24, 4:20 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
1. Some religions preach cleansing of the soul.
2. Some religions preach upholding precepts, or commandments.
3. Aethists say must be an upright person and be a useful members of the society - ie. Work to benefit self and society.
4. All can be summarize to eradicate the 3 human inherent poisons of:-
a. Hatred, anger
b. Greed, dissatisfaction, jealousy, envy
c. Ignorance of what makes human, society, countries and the world work and interact harmoniously together.
5. To eradicate human 3 negative attributes and prevent radicalization, only through cultivation of :-
a. Compassion, Universal Love, Mutual Respect
b. Selflessness, accommodating diversity
c. Wisdom, understand how individuals, society, countries and the world work harmoniously for peace, mutual respect, mutual benefits and mutual prosperity works.
Only then radicalization, fight, conflict, intolerance can stop and mutual coexistence can be realised. <This message was edited>
26/1/24, 4:21 pm - +Bhavani: Dna modification is something that seriously needs to be looked into when people are violent
26/1/24, 4:21 pm - +Bhavani: Of course it needs to be done ethically
26/1/24, 4:22 pm - +Bhavani: Like giving patients the right medicine when they are not well <This message was edited>
26/1/24, 4:24 pm - +Rama: You can clone dolly the sheep but don't touch human DNA
26/1/24, 4:25 pm - +Bhavani: Humans also evolved from animals
26/1/24, 4:25 pm - +Rama: Sometimes parents are to blame but circumstances too.
26/1/24, 4:25 pm - +Rama: Your understanding is too far fetched.
26/1/24, 4:26 pm - +Bhavani: I only said dna modification is only acceptable if it's ethical <This message was edited>
26/1/24, 4:27 pm - +Rama: DNA profiling is vastly different from sequencing
26/1/24, 4:27 pm - +Rama: Not acceptable play God
26/1/24, 4:28 pm - +Bhavani: If doctors are allowed to heal patients through medicines, then doctors and scientists should be allowed to research on dna modification too
26/1/24, 4:29 pm - +Bhavani: Dna modification isn't playing god. It is just to correct violent tendencies.
26/1/24, 4:29 pm - +Rama: Research is one thing. Application is another.
26/1/24, 4:29 pm - +Bhavani: Violence causes untold suffering to innocents
26/1/24, 4:29 pm - +Rama: It is
26/1/24, 4:30 pm - +Rama: Altering DNA is dangerous!
26/1/24, 4:30 pm - +Bhavani: Yes of course but I'm just saying dna research should not be ruled out
26/1/24, 4:31 pm - +Bhavani: Did God come and tell u that?
26/1/24, 4:32 pm - +Rama: Research is ongoing but discussion amongst academics, religious, social services, legal fraternity is very compliant
26/1/24, 4:32 pm - +Bhavani: See your perspective is DNA altering is dangerous. My perspective is dna modification is much needed to prevent violence. So let Reach decide about this.
26/1/24, 4:33 pm - +Rama: If you are a religious person, what does your faith say? If not, are you speaking from a atheist point of view?
26/1/24, 4:34 pm - +Rama: It's a blady joke if reach is to decide. Only a feedback platform and nothing else. Parliament is the avenue.
26/1/24, 4:34 pm - +Bhavani: I speak from the point of science.
26/1/24, 4:34 pm - +Rama: Quote the scientist and their publication.
26/1/24, 4:35 pm - +Bhavani: Yes by Reach I meant the government. Reach is an important government feedback platform.
26/1/24, 4:36 pm - +Rama: Two different entities so don't get confused
26/1/24, 4:47 pm - +Smiley face: How to Change the Mind?
Key concepts:
trust, physical, emotion, mental, unique, social interactions, isolation, curiosity, social media & identity crisis, positive or negative cognitive dissonance, listening, failures & opportunities, soft tactics, values & judgements, introvert, extrovert, processing, psycho mapping, innocence, self discipline, meanings, perception, adaptive & evolving mind, universal applications.
26/1/24, 4:50 pm - +Bhavani: Reach is the government platform where our feedback will be directed to ministers
26/1/24, 4:51 pm - +Bhavani: You are the one confused , not me!
26/1/24, 4:52 pm - +Rama: You still don't have a proper understanding of how feedback from public is channel to the particular minister through various input and not just reach. A lot of professionals in various fields are consulted and not in the way you think.
26/1/24, 4:53 pm - +Rama: ๐๐๐๐คฆ♂️๐คท♂️
26/1/24, 4:54 pm - +Rama: Both locally and overseas .
26/1/24, 5:17 pm - +Frankie Wee: Child shouldn’t have to hatred each other and compare themselves parent who are richer or famous fan.
Adult are aware of their differences circumstances whereabouts wrongdoing or abuse violence.
Education is one of key era achievements bringing a future job and investment or social development.
I want this lifestyle about how we enjoyed and happiness. Nothing compared other country.
26/1/24, 5:19 pm - +Frankie Wee: Human is on earth there is no other planet whoever live in.
There will throuand millions light years how far can we travel time.
26/1/24, 5:22 pm - +Rama: Some children are taught from young to hate others of different colour, race, religion, financial standing by their parents so it grows with them!
26/1/24, 5:22 pm - +Rama: Innocence of children is before they can speak!
26/1/24, 5:24 pm - +Jimmy Chew: Yeah. I overhead a parent tell their child, study and work hard and don't share so that you will be tops and don't work like that (other race) cleaner <This message was edited>
26/1/24, 5:25 pm - +Rama: ๐ณ๐
26/1/24, 5:26 pm - +Jimmy Chew: https://interestingengineering.com/science/scientists-trick-t-cells-to-resist-aging
26/1/24, 5:26 pm - +Rama: Work in progress to slow aeging!?
26/1/24, 6:00 pm - +REACH: ๐ข *Topic* ๐ข
26/1/24, 6:01 pm - +Rama: Muslims in particular
26/1/24, 6:16 pm - +REACH: Dear Contributors,
This is the reminder of the *House Rules (short version of our Terms of Use) to keep in mind when sharing your views.*
1. *Be kind and respectful. We all want to be in a safe space to share our views.*
*2. Any and all threatening, abusive, vulgar or racially, religiously and ethnically objectionable content is prohibited.*
3. Consider the quiet ones among us and give them a chance to comment.
4. No need to repeat your comment or in different forms (including caps) - we heard you loud and clear the first time.
5. Let’s protect each other’s privacy and keep contact details in this group what it should always be - confidential.
*Full set of Terms of Use:* https://go.gov.sg/reach-whatsapp-terms
We will strive to uphold these rules to ensure this is a safe space for all.
Thank you.
Megan <This message was edited>
26/1/24, 6:22 pm - +Bhavani: Hi I already told you I don't need your explanation
26/1/24, 6:23 pm - +Bhavani: Stop making fun of me
26/1/24, 6:23 pm - +Rama: When anyone comments, a rebuttal is expected. Irregardless of whether is needed. Choose not to rebutt
26/1/24, 6:24 pm - +Rama: Nothing humourous
26/1/24, 6:24 pm - +Bhavani: You mostly target only me
26/1/24, 6:24 pm - +Rama: Only if I don't agree
26/1/24, 6:24 pm - +Bhavani: There is no room for rebuttal this is not a debating platform
26/1/24, 6:25 pm - +Rama: There is
26/1/24, 6:25 pm - +Bhavani: I already told you to stop targeting me
26/1/24, 6:25 pm - +Rama: Group chat work both way
26/1/24, 6:25 pm - +Bhavani: I don't know why you keep rebutting mainly me
26/1/24, 6:26 pm - +Rama: Don't expect admin to comment.
26/1/24, 6:26 pm - +Bhavani: Your rebuttals are unkind
26/1/24, 6:26 pm - +Rama: Not personal
26/1/24, 6:26 pm - +Bhavani: and also rude
26/1/24, 6:26 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
I think there should be time out - and both refrain from posting for the time being.
Take a deep breath.
Else it end up to be ego fight.
26/1/24, 6:26 pm - +Rama: Disagree
26/1/24, 6:27 pm - +Bhavani: Then keep your disagreement to yourself
26/1/24, 6:27 pm - +Rama: Not possible
26/1/24, 6:27 pm - +Bhavani: Don't joke about my views
26/1/24, 6:27 pm - +Rama: I take it seriously
26/1/24, 6:27 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Later both kick out from the group.
26/1/24, 6:27 pm - +Bhavani: I gave valid views based on what I read in reliable media
26/1/24, 6:28 pm - +Rama: Which reliable media source!?
26/1/24, 6:28 pm - +Bhavani: Look Danny, Andrew is always making fun of my views
26/1/24, 6:29 pm - +Bhavani: I don't have to update you again look and read for yourself above
26/1/24, 6:29 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
I think both should stop now.
Because both are going in circle.
Later both get kick out - both lose.
26/1/24, 6:29 pm - +Rama: Then, your comments is fair game for rebuttal.
26/1/24, 6:30 pm - +Bhavani: Danny you should not be telling me to stop. Only the admin has the right to tell me
26/1/24, 6:30 pm - +~.@: hey admin, do some work
26/1/24, 6:30 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
A cycle of anger - back and forth - can be stop - if one or both stop.
26/1/24, 6:30 pm - +Rama: Not again!
26/1/24, 6:30 pm - +Bhavani: There is no anger Andrew keeps putting me down
26/1/24, 6:31 pm - +Bhavani: I am really tired of Andrew putting me down
26/1/24, 6:32 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Look at the world conflict - anger back and forth.
Endless fight.
Going on for decades, century.
This is a mico view of what happens in the world conflict.
26/1/24, 6:32 pm - +Rama: Yes
26/1/24, 6:32 pm - +Jimmy Chew: Well said ๐๐๐
26/1/24, 6:32 pm - +Rama: Agree
26/1/24, 6:32 pm - +Bhavani: If Andrew keeps putting you down, you would understand my situation
26/1/24, 6:33 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
You hit me.
I retaliate.
You fight back.
I take revenge.
I fight again.
You retaliate again.
No end in sight.
26/1/24, 6:33 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
The vicious cycle will only stop when one stop.
Or both stop.
26/1/24, 6:33 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Else all meditation go to waste.
26/1/24, 6:34 pm - +Bhavani: He keeps invalidating people's views by saying things like "rubbish"
26/1/24, 6:34 pm - +Timothy Low: No point keep rebutting each other. Waste of your time and our time in seeing both of you quarrel. Just ignore each other’s message will do
26/1/24, 6:34 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Else repentance to divine being go to waste.
26/1/24, 6:34 pm - +Rama: Yup
26/1/24, 6:34 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Because it is a person ego at work.
26/1/24, 6:35 pm - +Rama: I would say so
26/1/24, 6:37 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
1. Israel and Palestine endless conflict will stop if everyone understand this.
2. Russia and Ukraine war will stop if everyone know this.
3. China and Taiwan tension will stop if everyone know this.
4. SKorea and Nkorea conflict will stop if everyone know this.
26/1/24, 6:39 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/simplygo-full-adoption-push-ez-link-system-fares-judgment-error-2030-chee-hong-tat-4076996?cid=internal_sharetool_androidphone_26012024_cna
26/1/24, 6:39 pm - +Rama: Let there be hope
26/1/24, 6:40 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
See, even government can put down its ego for the greater good.
Likewise, if I am wrong, I will also put down my ego.
26/1/24, 6:40 pm - +Rama: Utterly embarrassing with a heartless apology and arrogance! Not to mention costly!
26/1/24, 6:41 pm - +Rama: Prouder than a peacock!
26/1/24, 6:43 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
I think Chee Hong Tat is a good Minister.
He is not afraid to hold the bull by the horns. <This message was edited>
26/1/24, 6:44 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
Provided there is a Sage - that can put the message across - and the World conflict stop.
26/1/24, 6:44 pm - +Rama: Time will tell
26/1/24, 6:44 pm - +Rama: Too many selfish interests!
26/1/24, 6:45 pm - +REACH: *Dear Contributors,*
⏰ We will be closing the chat in *15 minutes* ⏰
Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Goodnight!
Megan ๐
26/1/24, 6:45 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
That's why "Selfless" - is a transformation from mundane to Divine.
่ถ ๅกๅ ฅๅฃ。
26/1/24, 6:45 pm - +Thai Language: Raya relax la both of u . They had said they had heard both loud and clear . Now is the matter of them doing things . After debate so much until on fire and kick while they do nothing . Not worth it la
26/1/24, 6:45 pm - +Rama: ๐คท♂️๐
26/1/24, 6:46 pm - +Thai Language: They only listening, do or not depend on them . This is only a place to share idea and comment to show they are working . <This message was edited>
26/1/24, 6:46 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
A strong attachment to Ego and Viewpoint - lose the value of "Selfless".
26/1/24, 6:48 pm - +Thai Language: In this country , mostly are selfish la . MRT Buses a lot . So no comment on this may be ourselves also the same but we never realise. Chill out & relax
26/1/24, 6:48 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
And degenerate into vicious cycle of conflicts and sufferings.
The lock horn isn't it a conflict and sufferings?
If manifest into a country to country conflict - we see the regional conflicts - endless death, destruction and sufferings. <This message was edited>
26/1/24, 6:50 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
My close friend comments:-
For younger children, parental guidance / review on online content which they were exposed to is very important.
That online material may not be taken as truth and facts.
Search engines will keep feeding us with content which we read, hence trapping in our own echo chamber.
If you find yourself believing something try to Google the opposite eg if this world is about hatred, then google about loving acts of kindness.
When my child was young, he told me that Ahmad Mattar (a former minister) was a terrorist.
I was initially confused by what he said.
Then I understood that his teacher asked the class to research about pioneer leaders.
I had to go thru the search history and have to correct him.
26/1/24, 6:50 pm - +Rama: Generation Z amongst selfish self centered entitled individuals along racial profile lines!
26/1/24, 6:51 pm - +Rama: What exactly is in public historical records about our past leaders!?
26/1/24, 6:52 pm - +Rama: Anything doctored!?
26/1/24, 6:54 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
I am not sure my friend got sufficient time to reply or not as REACH is closing.
26/1/24, 6:54 pm - +Rama: Fair enough
26/1/24, 6:54 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
"OCBC to roll out Money Lock for time deposits from end-January" - 31 Jan 2024.
https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/companies-markets/ocbc-roll-out-money-lock-time-deposits-end-january#:~:text=OCBC%20to%20roll%20out%20Money%20Lock%20for%20time%20deposits%20from%20end%2DJanuary
26/1/24, 6:54 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ: <Media omitted>
26/1/24, 6:54 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ: <Media omitted>
26/1/24, 6:54 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ: <Media omitted>
26/1/24, 6:56 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
My close friend comments:-
Actually, there was very hardly any online info about our Ahmad Mattar at that time. But then to the child, there was one and only one Ahmad Mattar!
26/1/24, 6:57 pm - +Rama: No one will ever find personal information about our politicians
26/1/24, 6:58 pm - ☸️ Danny ๅฟ:
My close friend comments:-
No online content about our minister. That "terrorist" called himself by the same name.
26/1/24, 6:59 pm - +Rama: ๐ณ๐
26/1/24, 6:59 pm - +Smiley face: 26 January, 2024
"Mining Brains"
"The more stressful or despair an individual is, the abilities to differentiate and process facts from fabricated facts will be harder even when utilising the common sense of right or wrong will be mixed up. Mind Control goes beyond the psychology of controlling human thoughts and behaviors; it's a complex mechanism of Trusting and Winning the Heart of individuals. In every child, each child is unique and never the same from the next child. That's the beauty of diversity and variety."
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How to Change the Mind?
Key concepts:
trust, physical, emotion, mental, unique, social interactions, isolation, curiosity, external influences, social media & identity crisis, large language models, positive or negative cognitive dissonance, listening, failures & opportunities, soft tactics, values & judgements, introvert, extrovert, processing, psycho mapping, innocence, self discipline, meanings, perception, adaptive & evolving mind, universal applications.
Human is a Social Animal?
Your peers or your close friends may have different views on different matters and generally the group will tend to agree on similar ideas, views, and thoughts on most matters of concern from simple stuffs to serious matters of life and death.
You see and you belief to a superficial extend only if you pursue further to find the truth of right and wrong. Just how many people would be Curious to delve further on any matters unless it's really interesting or it's concerning to them or someone gave you new perspectives of things which otherwise you simply don't care!
In today's fast information flow and overflowing, more often, opinions and comments can be contagious and dangerous at that heated moments of emotion and feeling flashing across to the social media from IG, TikTok to X which may escalate into bigger mess of mixed feelings of a group or big part of a society creating" this and that and here and everywhere" all seems to look similar expressions and this is a danger zone of mind changing and not mindsetting. That's the beginning of mining into the human minds and new habits will be formed or changed. And AI tools will fabricate things into believable objective of following amongst youngsters and older adults. It's a choice for any internet users to be self vigilant to determine if what they read or saw are facts and information is reliable and not misinforming or disinforming the public.
The misused of LLM or large language models on the future of information warfare to the actual implementation of a real hot war! Its too early to fore tell if LLM will benefit society than more harm to the world of information technology.
The frequency and intensity of engaging people is one way to win the mind and the heart of individuals. It is always a positive conditioning of the mind and it's never a negative one. People tend to belief that they are not easily influenced by others and fact is this is a human cognitive error. It's not hard to control thoughts and winning trusts and hearts of individuals. Its about experienced, experiencing and experimenting over time will form a person mind , beliefs and behaviors. If the mind is set, perhaps there will be no room for changes?
The Listening Post?
One powerful method of building Trust is to listen to your fellow beings. It not only effective in mining the mund or slowing down the person who is identified as potential threats, unique sense, and the mind has changed against socal norms and rights. By listening to individual, you will find out the deeper thoughts and the roots cause of such mind alteration process that has happened over a longer period of time.
In the early stage of probing and listening, you will gain insights into this individual past and present moods, events and setbacks. The key is to look for significant events that caused setbacks and the more severeit was or failure happened, the higher the chances to change the mind of the individual. Either it can change the mind for good or it can changed the mind for bad intentions.
No radicals will use harsh or blunt words, softer words of positive conditioning will allow many moments of unchecked (careless) minds to accept the process of mind changing in an unchallenged environment and thorough communication.
How to control minds?
Patience pays! Attitude, Personality and Character are values and judgments of individual formative years of education, it means from age 6 to 16-18 years.
Foremost, identifying individual behaviors in determining if this person is an introvert or an extrovert.
Introvert tends to be deep thinkers and extrovert don't think beyond now. Each type has it weaknesses and it is through deeper conversation or interaction, we will be able to form a detailed psycho mapping of individuals.
What is success and what is failure for a 6 year old, 12 years old and 16 years old?
All of these junctions of one's early childhood will mould and shape individuals from teenager to young adult. Attitude, Personality and Character are formed...
The more failures one experienced or experiencing now, the higher one lost Hope for tomorrow! It's like living today and don't know about tomorrow?
Fact is today is the beginning of tomorrow to come? Arguably, spiritually speaking it is NOW that matters than tomorrow?
If you believe that humankind is an adaptive and evolving species so does the brain that is the controlling centre of a Human's mind to act, to react or to proact.
Applying all the above to good use or for bad purposes, it's the same methods and the difference is the intent and the outcome.
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26/1/24, 7:00 pm - +REACH: *Dear Contributors,*
We will be closing the chat for today.
Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Goodnight!
Megan ๐
26/1/24, 7:00 pm - ~ REACH Singapore changed this group's settings to allow only admins to send messages to this group
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