Friday, July 29, 2022

REACH 379 - What are your views on Singapore's Green Plan 2030? How else can we work better together to ensure for a resource-efficient future for our next generation?

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29 Jul 2022 (10am - 7pm)


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[9:49 am, 29/07/2022] +REACH: Dear Contributors,

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[10:01 am, 29/07/2022] +REACH: ๐Ÿ“ข Topic๐Ÿ“ข

28 July 2022 was marked as Earth Overshoot Day, the day when humanity's demand on natural resources exceeds a sustainable supply that the earth can renew in a year. 

That demand is damaging ecosystems such as forests, mangroves and grasslands, polluting the land, sea and air and fuelling climate change, which is compounding the threats facing nature and harming its ability to provide resources for future generations. 

Global Footprint Network and WWF pointed out that the food production system and its ‘considerable’ ecological footprint took up more than half of the planet’s biocapacity.

๐Ÿ’ฌ What are your views on Singapore's Green Plan 2030? How else can we work better together to ensure for a resource-efficient future for our next generation?

Singapore aims to accelerate towards a climate-resilient, sustainable and resource-efficient future. The Green Plan 2030 charts ambitious and concrete targets to advance Singapore’s national agenda on sustainable development. The five key pillars under the Green Plan encompass targets that touch almost every dimension of our lives:

๐Ÿ“ŒCity in Nature: 

o Plant 1 million more trees across the island for cleaner air and cooler shade. 

o Increase nature parks’ land area by over 50%. Every household will be within 10-minute walk from a park. 

๐Ÿ“ŒSustainable Living:

o Reduce household water consumption to 130 litres per capita per day and amount of waste to landfill per capita per day by 30%.

o Achieve 75% mass public transport peak-period modal share and triple cycling paths to 1,320km.

o Achieve a two-thirds reduction of net carbon emissions from the schools sector.

๐Ÿ“ŒEnergy Reset: 

o Increase solar energy deployment by five-fold solar energy deployment to generate enough electricity to power more than 350,000 households a year.  

o Green 80% of Singapore’s buildings.

o Best-in-class green buildings to see an 80% improvement in energy efficiency. 

o All new car and taxi registrations to be of cleaner-energy models and target 60,000 charging points nationwide.

๐Ÿ“ŒGreen Economy:

o Jurong Island to be a sustainable energy and chemicals park. 

o Singapore as a sustainable tourism destination and a carbon services hub in Asia.

o Singapore as leading centre for green finance and services to facilitate Asia’s transition to a low-carbon and sustainable future and regional centre for developing new sustainability solutions.

o Groom a strong pool of local enterprises to capture sustainability opportunities.

๐Ÿ“ŒResilient Future:

o Complete formulation of coastal protection plans for City-East Coast, North-West Coast (Lim Chu Kang and Sungei Kadut) and Jurong Island.

o Meet 30% of Singapore’s nutritional needs through locally produced food.

๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿป https://www.straitstimes.com/world/st-explains-what-is-earth-overshoot-day-and-how-is-it-calculated

๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿป https://www.channelnewsasia.com/sustainability/earth-overshoot-day-jul-28-consume-resources-ecosystem-regenerate-2840651

๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿป https://www.overshootday.org/

๐Ÿ‘‰๐Ÿป https://www.greenplan.gov.sg/key-focus-areas/key-targets

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[10:10 am, 29/07/2022] +65 9729 3850: I would like to suggest the following to the implemented in the future:

 1. Make in mandatory to charge for each plastic bag given so as to reduce plastic bag consumption. Channel the money collected for environment protection purposes. 

2. Cultivate a sense of recycling since young by placing one recycle box in each classroom in schools. Provide positive reinforcement such as class league points or school voucher for those classes that recycled the most (in terms of weight)

3. Introduce a Singapore Recycling Day - just like Earth Day, to encourage recycling nation wide

[10:59 am, 29/07/2022] +Rama: Yes

[10:59 am, 29/07/2022] +Smiley face: 29 July, 2022 

To: Our Distinguished Ministers and All Honorable Members 

"First world order and First world standard."

-  - annoymous 

The fact is, we need to spend! Perhaps, we as consumers are the driver of pollutions ( include prices) for goods and services that makes the world goes round and round!

The food security issue is crucial for Singapore status as one of Asia's metropolis. There will not be any shortages of food or even if there is one it will be solved within weeks.

Many people have not experienced shortages in their lifetime. Perhaps, our young generation and ourselves will see, feel and learn this valuable lesson of Needs versus Wants and the consequences of ABUNDANCE vs SCARCITY.

Are we fortunate enough to continue consuming and affording more than 3 times of many other nations? Are these spending and consumption trends upstoppable?

Will the carbon tax, electric car, greentech and recycle initiatives reduce wastages and environmental pollutions?  How thorough is the ESG knowledge, coverage and outreach today and into 2030 or more? What's the eco landscape be for Singapore, let's prospect it to 2035?

     - - in progress - -

[11:00 am, 29/07/2022] +Ken Loh: Recycling is not well aware within local

[11:01 am, 29/07/2022] +Smiley face: Good morning Ken!

Well observed and said....

The idea of "you don't do it why should I do!"

[11:01 am, 29/07/2022] +Ken Loh: Plastic bag for general use… usually are already recycled somehow ๐Ÿ˜…

Charging is a right way… or incentive given for companies that have little plastic bag use

[11:03 am, 29/07/2022] +Ken Loh: I am from plastic industry… can give rough information. 

NEA has already made declaration of plastic waste within companies mandatory. Guess something are in the pipeline with the data collected

[11:03 am, 29/07/2022] +Rama: Great

[11:03 am, 29/07/2022] +Ken Loh: That include primary and secondary packing used within Singapore exports not control under the act

[11:03 am, 29/07/2022] +Smiley face: Good point, Timothy!

Let's drum it monthly, can be on community carnival and events. Social media too?

[11:03 am, 29/07/2022] +Rama: https://www.malaysianow.com/news/2022/07/20/suit-against-singapore-minister-to-be-heard-in-malaysia-after-lawyers-group-wins-appeal

[11:19 am, 29/07/2022] +Smiley face: 29 July, 2022

"The Green Time Line "

Here it goes:

The first recorded use of recycled paper was in 9th century Japan .

In 1690 recycling reaches the New World. The Rittenhouse Mill in Philadelphia opens and begins recycling linen and cotton rags. The paper produced from these materials was sold to printers for use in Bibles and newspapers.

World War II sees massive, universal collection campaigns for tin, rubber, steel, paper and more.

Earth Day is celebrated for the first time on April 22, 1970.

In 1985 America is at 10% nationwide recycling participation.

By 1995 America is at 20% nationwide recycling participation; double what it had been 10 years ago in 1985 and only 3 years later, in 1998, it tops 30%.

In the early 2000s, organic waste collection at the curb begins on the West Coast (San Francisco).

Lessons:

It takes time and big efforts to conquer this mindset of reuse , recycle and recreate! 

There is a need to calibrate and timed these on going green initiatives. Some things in life and nature, one just cannot rush through and expecting great results and returns!


[1:22 pm, 29/07/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

Our Living Environmnet

1. The Global Warming Climate that have hit the Earth has reached an unprecedented level - that is making Earth very sick - high temperature, drought, flood, typhoon, hurricane, melting ice, drying up of rivers, rising sealevel etc


2. This has make many fertile lands barren - unable to grow crops for humans and animal feed.


3. Domestic animals are unable to survive as they are unable to graze the lands for food, and poultries run out of food as maize, wheat, rice etc are increasingly difficult to grow due to more and more barren lands cause by adverse Global conditions.


4. Hence, drastic steps to reverse the Global Climate conditions is imperative if Humanity want to continue to live comfortably, safely and have sufficient food to sustain our lives.

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[1:27 pm, 29/07/2022] +Gan Kelvin: Irreversible

Covid gave mother earth ๐ŸŒŽ some reprive

But now things are going back to normalcy

No different at all once things go back full swing

Might be worst off to make up the 2 year hiatus ๐Ÿคฃ


[1:31 pm, 29/07/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

Singapore Green Plan 2030

1. Looking through the Green Plan, I support the Singapore Green Plan 2030 - in which many good Green Initiatives are put forward - that will help to bring a greener and sustainable living environment for Singapore.


2. In addition, our Food Security Plan 2030 to ensure we can locally produced our own food - is particularly reassuring as we cannot control what happen to the food supply outside our Country - as unfavorable global climate, human intervention such as food protectionism, wrong economic policies, war, pandemic - may disrupt our diverse nest of food supply - and make imported food unavailable to us.


3. Ministry of Environment has done a very good job coming out with the Green Plan.


4. But however, there are some areas I will like to highlight for MoEnv consideration for improvement or future implementation (in which I believe the Ministry is looking closely into - but not publicly articulated) - in the next section.

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[2:03 pm, 29/07/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

Areas for Improvement

1. Overused of plastic and plastic bags that overwhelm the land fills, polluting the lands and the sea - is indeed a big problem and need to be curb.


2. On the other hand, there is a need to bag refuses (solid waste and liquid waste) at home, in food centre, in office - in which this habit has been build over the years and ensure Singapore hygiene problem is kept in control and make Singapore a clean city.


3. As NEA intend to charge every single plastic bag used come mid-2030, I will like to highlight the following :-

a. Charging every plastic bags in supermarket will definitely discourage consumers from using single-used plastic bags to bag their groceries. This will solve one part of the equation by preventing plastic bags overused.


b. But this introduced another problem that are currently under control - that is, it will discourage household to use single-used plastic bags to bag refuse (solid and liquid waste) at home. 

Many household will not be willing to pay for refuse bag to bag their home waste (because the single-used plastic bags currently are double up as refuse bags at home) - as they are price paid for in buying groceries in supermarket. 


c. With the charging of single-used plastic bags - it means household have to :-

i. Pay to buy reusable bags for groceries.

ii. Pay to buy refuse bags (which are currently free) - as part of price paid to buy groceries.

This inevitably is an "unfair policies" - that penalise household and expect household to pay and pay --- on top of the runaway inflation that are squeezing every household from high income, middle income and low income.


d. Hence I will to suggest improvement to the "charging of every plastic bag" to curb overused of plastic bags and at the same time, ensure household continue to inherit the good habits of bagging their refuse at home without incurring additional cost (beyond the unbearable inflation hitting every household).

i. Government issue free refuse bags and reusable carrier bags to every household every year - and proceed to charge every single-used plastic bags.


or

ii. Governement provide "Refuse Bag voucher" to every household every year (similar to the concept of GST voucher) to buy reusable carrier bags and refuse bags to bag house refuse.


or

iii. Government use an apps and backend system to allocate "carbon credit" to each household.

This will throw the burden of supplying "reusable carrier bags" and "refuse bags" back to the private Supermarkets - and not use taxpayer's money to supply the reusable carrier bags and refuse bags --- in which consumers have already paid for in the supermarkets when buying groceries.

Household can collect a certain amount of reusable carrier bags and plastic bags (as refuse bags) free of charge from the supermarket --- according to the "carbon credit" assigned to each household using the apps and backend system to keep track.

Once all the "carbon credit" is used up - then consumers will have to pay for each reusable carrier bags and plastic bags used in the supermarket.


4. This will solve the problem of :-

a. Overused of plastic bags

b. Maintain the current good habit of using refuse bags to bag home waste (solid and liquid) - without polluting our living environment.

c. Not throwing the full cost of reducing the use of plastic bags, bagging refuse --- solely to all the household ---- and inheriting the image of "Pay-And-Pay" to solve National problem.

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[3:00 pm, 29/07/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

Future Sustainability Energy solutions and Food sources


Future Food production

1. Singapore is a small Country with island wide land mass. Every inch of our land space is a premium and need to produce the maximum economic output whenever possible.


2. Traditional food production is land-intensive and the yield will not be sufficient to sustain the population even if the whole island is used for agriculture to grow food for the whole population food needs.


3. Hence high-tech food production, vertical farming and future lab-based, manufacturing plant food production ---- are the only way to grow - whereby our land footprint to produce our food needs is greatly reduced and yet can bring about high food yield output to feed our entire population - and will be even possible to produce surplus for export to feed the rest of the World - while earning export income.


4. Notice in the Green Plan 2030 covers the "Medium Term Food Security Plan" - high-tech fish farming, high-tech poultries and eggs production, floating farm in offshore islands, vertical farming for vegetables, hydroponic vegetable, Temasek rice resistant grain etc. ----- are very good plan that are on the way to achieve our Food 30/30 vision - 30% local food produce in 2030.


5. "Long Term Food Security Plan" beyond 2030 - is not articulated --- though quietly work upon.

For clarity sake, below are some possibilities of long term food production - that will help to secure our future food needs beyond 2030 and even have the capacities to export our future food (like our water security).

a. Plant-based meat - is the lab-based meat that are made from plant and vegan ingredients that required smaller land spaces to grow vegetables and then produced meat in lab and mass produce in manufacturing plants. Thus 10 times the land space to grow crops and then 1 times the land spaces to feed animals - will no longer be required.

Currently, Singapore are able to produce such lab-based - plant-based meat - except the price is still relatively high as compated to traditional meat. Also consumer acceptance still need more efforts. 

But the momentum is there --- and will poise to be our long-term food security plan to be able to feed our whole population as well as for export.


b. Cell-culture, tissue-re-engineering meat, dairies product - by extracting cells from live animals eg. poultries, cows, pigs, sheeps, lambs, fish, seafoods or extracting cells from the eggs - it is possible to culture the cells, put the right healthy ingredients, grow and multiply the cells in lab, then grow the multiplied cells in bio-reactor in manufacturing plants to mass-produce alternative meat.

Such cell-culture production is healthy as it removed unhealthy saturated fats, trans-fat, anti-biotics, hormone injection etc from live animals - and ensure humans will be eating healthy cell-culture meat and fit for human consumption.

The barriers are now high cost, R&D to ensure the cell culture meat can achieve the live meat texture, and ensuring consumer acceptance.

Note that since only cells and ingredients are needed and no need to set aside big land spaces for crops to produce animal feeds and let animals graze the crops --- Singapore with high tech, right talents and premium land spaces --- will have a good potential to produce sufficient food not only for the whole population but also for overseas market.


6. If Singapore is successful in achieving the above, then we will have achieve what we have achieve in our water security - through our various taps - newater recycled water, desalination plants, reservoirs and imported water - and ensure water self-sufficiency.

We will have food self-sufficency - at least in terms of meat production.

But note :- crops such as rice, wheat and to a smaller extent vegetables, eggs, fruits - will still need to rely on imported sources.

But at least we won't go hungry - as we have alternative meat. Coming to the crunch, we can have a larger portion of meat (like chicken chop, beef chop, mutton chop, pork chop, fish and chip, seafood mix) with a smaller portion of rice or vegetables or fruits to go along with.

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[3:32 pm, 29/07/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: 

Future Sustainability Energy solutions

1. !st I will like to applaud our MoENV for doing a good job - exploring the various new energy alternative solutions to secure our energy needs - for our Economy needs, eg manufacturing plants, office, business, and home needs as well as for our transport, and various aspect of our lives that need energy.

Without energy, our Economy, our lives will crumbled.


2. Notably, securing natural gas, oil bunker - and now looking at green energy like solar farms, regional energy grid, hydro electric generators, local solar panels installation, electric cars, LEDs to replace traditonal lighting devices, cloud computing to virtualise physical servers, networks etc. --- are good energy alternatives to secure our immediate and medium term energy needs.


3. Understand MoENV is also looking at future commercially viable energy alternatives that can produce high energy yield in which Singapore will have abundant supplies (and not rely on fuel, oil, natural gas - that need to be imported from oil-producing Countries - in which we are at the mercy of fluctuating oil prices, oil disruption due to geopolitical intervention, oil supply disruption due to war, terrorism and many other factors).

a. Hydrogen gas - produce by green means to split water (H20) - hydrogen from oxygen through green means eg. solar or other means. Water, we have abundant as we are surrounded by sea and will not deplete.

But technology challenges need to be overcome to produce commercially viable hydrogen gas for storage, production and usage.


b. New safe nuclear fusion generated energy - current nuclear energy is unsafe as it is using nuclear fission my splitting nuclear atoms into subatoms to produce heat to generate electricity and as a result producing many radio-active waste that can cause radiation and harm human health.

But new nuclear fusion technology to create an infinite "artificial sun" energy source - by fusing and merging atoms to form bigger atoms will produce heat and generate electricity - like the Sun - will become a viable alternative energy source to produce infinite energy.

Currently only China and US have successfully produced energy through nuclear fusion by creating "Artificial Sun" in their nuclear reactors in a safe manner without generating radioactive waste.

In addition, US nuclear scientists have even make use of new magnet breakthrough to create a smaller, more potent fusion reactors. Singapore can explore this technology as it has a smaller footprint and even safer.


c. Solar energy - where Singapore has abundant infinite supply from our Sun - which is free. The problem is the sufficient energy yield from the Sun to meet our needs, land space to install solar panel, exploring floating solar panel around our sea in offshore islands to harness the sun for our energy needs.


d. Geothermal energy - heat from our deep underground soil to produce electricity. This is in exploratory stage - and our geographical researchers need to do study to determine whether our natural resources can generate sustainable sufficient heat to generate energy for our needs.


4. Again if Singapore is able to harness the above alternative green energy in which Singapore has unlimited supply, then we will not at the mercy of fluctuating oil prices, and disruption.

Like water self sufficiency and like food sufficiency --- we can secure our energy self-sufficiency and ensure a stable sustainable energy price for our Economy, business and household ---- without succumb to runaway energy inflation that is beyond our control.

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[3:33 pm, 29/07/2022] ☸️  Danny ๅฟƒ: https://interestingengineering.com/innovation/magnet-breakthrough-potent-fusion-reactors

New magnet breakthrough could unleash smaller, more potent fusion reactors.

A new technique brings us a step closer to commercially viable nuclear fusion.


[4:11 pm, 29/07/2022] +Smiley face: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/sustainability/singapore-renewable-power-northern-territory-sun-cable-explainer-2780861

[4:15 pm, 29/07/2022] +RH: Imo, we need to to step up on Education & Awareness .

And no, I m not talking abt schools.

Not abt corporations either.

A lot is being said and done in these 2 areas alredi.

Qn: Does Gov think tt targetting these 2 sectors abv is enuff to stir ppl into action ?

I feel tt all these initiatives being discussed here r all well & good.

However, how much of the general popn actually buy into the idea?

For example, ther r still many households tt ignore such global issues, for various reasons, one of which is "it is not my problem", or "I dun hv time for all this".

Ther is not enuff Conscious, or Collective effort in households to want to do so.

Also, some households hv domestic helpers. These FDW are either ignorant, dun care or can't do much.

When I speak to these FDW abt going green/recycling/etc, I get answers ranging fr blank looks to nonchalant shrugs to non-commital nods, or replies like " ... but ma'am never tell me to do ... so I think not so important ..."

๐Ÿคฆ๐Ÿผ‍♀️

Companies tt employ foreign workers may follow, practise & enforce actions to support the green plan - at the workplace.  However, wl the foreign worker practise same when they return to their dormitories after work ? 

Wat abt shops & biz tt support these communities? R they involved in this too ?

Qn: With one-third of our general popn made up of foreigners, shdn't the Gov include them in the overall Green Plan 'collective' ? 

Ther r also people in our local community who prefer to communicate / read in their mother tongue.  

Our notices r mostly written in English.

Qn : What is the point of investing in Public Education if only a small part of them are targetted?

Back to Education ~~ I think we need to target the abv  groups of ppl and 

create more awareness among them, and get  collective efforts started from these sectors.

1. Use the posters tt we hv for schools - convert to the various languages & even vernacular (for foreign workers) - and post these in the respective work places.

For those in Chinese, Malay, Tamil - place in RC /CC , bus stops, MRT stns , alongside the same in English.

Or better yet, put all 4 languages on One poster (dun waste!) 

2. For foreign workers & FDW, include green notices in their newsletters.

3. Also, for same, appoint 'green champion' at dorms to follow up on this cause.

Organise events among them to promote the msg.

4. For households, hv more incentives to encourage us to go green. 

Maybe, if achieve certain %age reduction in energy consumption, get a small $ or percentage rebate tagged to how much we saved. Meaning if I achieve a 2% reduction in consumption this mth, then I get a 2% rebate off my bill this month!

(helps against inflation! ๐Ÿ˜‰)

For recycling, step up community efforts / events to promote action in gg green. 

๐Ÿ‘†๐Ÿปthese r the thots I hv for now ...

[4:46 pm, 29/07/2022] +RH: One more thing ...

Is ther a central committee to co-ordinate all these efforts from the various ministries?

Sth like wat we had to handle the pandemic sitn.

If we dun, perhaps now is a good time to set up a Co-ordinating body to oversee, organise existing efforts (avoid duplication)  and initiate  / speerhead new projects.

Those projects alredi started also need maintenance.

[4:50 pm, 29/07/2022] +RH: The central committee shd include a champion fr at least one env activist grp + scientist involved in the study / projections in the green initiative.

The rest of the stakeholding panel cud be reps fr various ministries , even pte enterprises (like Sembcorp) which installs solar panels.

[5:37 pm, 29/07/2022] +BL: Good for every country to 'do its bit', but if food production is one of the biggest problems I'd be looking to the US to lead the way in reducing consumption. The over eating and waste in that country is shocking.

[5:38 pm, 29/07/2022] +BL: I now recycle all plastic, metal, glass and cardboard. Previously I did not, until there was a local campaign to encourage recycling. It would be good to know if more people are recycling, so publish some stats and get more awareness.

[5:39 pm, 29/07/2022] +BL: Yes, which is a poor way of thinking but often true. People can be very lazy. Show some stats on the increase in recycling in the community its and the impact it is having so we can see the point.

[5:41 pm, 29/07/2022] +BL: Mandate compostable plastic bags. Some companies already use them. Redmart for example.

[5:43 pm, 29/07/2022] +BL: So much talk about bags... Singapore already makes eco friendly bags: https://telobag.sg/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwio6XBhCMARIsAC0u9aFrTynRvKDK6X_xvbeV_J_rsDh8tssUiN-_V12m2F-y0KHMfCDES7AaAhcyEALw_wcB

[5:44 pm, 29/07/2022] +BL: Support our industries and mandate eco friendly bags. No more talk about charging,  ot charging, reuse for rubbish etc.

[5:45 pm, 29/07/2022] +BL: Good idea

[5:46 pm, 29/07/2022] +Rama: Need to push hard on this.

[5:55 pm, 29/07/2022] +Ken Loh: Do not use please.. bio degrade plastic is bad for environment

[5:55 pm, 29/07/2022] +Ken Loh: It will create micro plastic

[5:55 pm, 29/07/2022] +Ken Loh: And most are ban in EU as is makes recycling plastic harder as those mixed in will degrade recyclable plastic

[5:57 pm, 29/07/2022] +Smiley face: Great idea

[5:58 pm, 29/07/2022] +Smiley face: How, any better breakthrough

[5:59 pm, 29/07/2022] +BL: Related to today's topic.

[6:00 pm, 29/07/2022] +BL: I didn't know this and keep an open mind! Found this: https://www.conserve-energy-future.com/advantages-disadvantages-uses-biodegradable-plastics.php

[6:03 pm, 29/07/2022] +BL: Not if the plastic is made from plant material.

[6:04 pm, 29/07/2022] +BL: It does highlight the problem if both types are put into recycling bin!

[6:05 pm, 29/07/2022] +BL: EU has banned these: Oxo-Degradable or Oxo-BioDegradable, as they are still plastic!

[6:05 pm, 29/07/2022] +BL: https://www.european-bioplastics.org/eu-takes-action-against-oxo-degradable-plastics/

[6:06 pm, 29/07/2022] +BL: The Singapore made plant based degradeable plastic bags are 100% ok.

[6:12 pm, 29/07/2022] +Smiley face: With 8 billion people on earth : 

Urban lifestyles is a challenge especially with disposing of wasted such as foods, diapers, electronics gadgets and so on.

In non-urbanised and developing nations, community such as villages, perhaps, self disposing of things would be to dig a deep pit either burn it or bury it? 

What are the different types of wasted to manage and tonnage too?

[6:19 pm, 29/07/2022] +Smiley face: The disposal of daily wasted food and diapers including adult and infant. Expand it out, it will be a continuous challenge to all households, F&B and food making businesses.

[6:19 pm, 29/07/2022] +Smiley face: An overshooting situation...

[6:20 pm, 29/07/2022] +Ken Loh: Recycling can not mix biodegradable… 

As in what kind of breakthrough?

[6:20 pm, 29/07/2022] +Ken Loh: Same issue

[6:21 pm, 29/07/2022] +Ken Loh: I work on this so I know

[6:21 pm, 29/07/2022] +Ken Loh: Nope…

[6:21 pm, 29/07/2022] +Ken Loh: Plastic industry expect to double every 5 years…

[6:24 pm, 29/07/2022] +Ken Loh: All food grade plastic has to be virgin plastic. So unless you don’t use plastic at all…

[6:24 pm, 29/07/2022] +Ken Loh: https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-298965/v1.pdf

[6:25 pm, 29/07/2022] +Smiley face: Hi jen, is correct..

Vietnam is expanding its plastic industry. You need oil to do so, a byproduct. Simply Unstoppable

[6:25 pm, 29/07/2022] +Smiley face: Hi Ken, sorry for typo...

[6:27 pm, 29/07/2022] +Ken Loh: By the way alternative uses more energy and resource to make as compare to plastic… 

I really don’t have a good answer for replacement. 

Example your reuseable plastic bags, metal straws etc

[6:28 pm, 29/07/2022] +Ken Loh: Often we don’t use it till it reached equal or more than the production carbon footprint

[6:28 pm, 29/07/2022] +Smiley face: Consumers' products  are full of plastic packagings from food to gadgets.

[6:29 pm, 29/07/2022] +Smiley face: Unless there is a major biochem breakthrough

[6:31 pm, 29/07/2022] +Ken Loh: Being in the city itself is already high carbon footprint ๐Ÿ˜…

Singapore way is to burn away the problem lol..

Reduce to min space and recover it as energy.. 

https://www.nea.gov.sg/our-services/waste-management/3r-programmes-and-resources/waste-management-infrastructure/semakau-landfill/waste-to-energy-and-incineration-plants

[6:32 pm, 29/07/2022] +Ken Loh: So technically we are give the power plant free resource to burn.

[6:34 pm, 29/07/2022] +Ken Loh: https://youtu.be/r-q5V6LDxEY

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