REACH 374 - What are your views on supporting local agricultural farms amid unpredictable production conditions worldwide? What are some reasons that may encourage you to consume more local agricultural produce?
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18 Jul 2022 (10am - 7pm)
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[10:00 am, 18/07/2022] +REACH: 📢 Topic 📢
Local farms are feeling the strain of rising operation costs and electricity prices, and many have had to raise the prices of their produce. Despite higher prices, some farms report an increase in demand for their produce, partially due to recent brushes with food security threats. Inflation and supply chain disruptions have been driving up the cost of fish feed, fingerlings - or juvenile fish - seeds, fertiliser and logistics.
Some of the reasons for the premium on fish feed are the supply chain disruption of grains due to the Russia-Ukraine war and recent adverse weather events in some parts of the world affecting crops.
💬 What are your views on supporting local agricultural farms amid unpredictable production conditions worldwide? What are some reasons that may encourage you to consume more local agricultural produce?
A spokesman for local vertical farm Sustenir said delays in farming material supplies and rising inflation have significantly increased the cost of doing business.
But amid the trying period, there is some cause for optimism as demand for local produce has seen an uptick as food security came to the fore with the global food supply crunch and Malaysia's chicken export ban, which started last month.
A spokesman for the Singapore Agro-Food Enterprises Federation noted that some of the farms that are open to visitors have reported an increase in footfall for a few months now as people become more interested in local produce and want to learn more about the production process.
Singapore has set a goal to produce 30 per cent of its people's nutritional needs by 2030. To combat the various economic uncertainties, local farms should adopt renewable energy and turn to innovation to rely less on conventional fertilisers, said Professor William Chen, director of the food science and technology programme at Nanyang Technological University.
"The need to push for local food production for enhanced food security is even greater against the backdrop of the headwinds in the global food system," Prof Chen added.
👉🏼https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/environment/local-farms-hit-by-rising-costs-forced-to-raise-prices-but-demand-is-up-amid-food-security-threats
👉🏼https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/freegan-food-rescue-reduce-waste-save-money-free-2808991
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[10:03 am, 18/07/2022] +Uncle Law: Support local produce is main priority, as it tends to be fresher.
Downside is more expensive.
[10:05 am, 18/07/2022] +Frankie Wee: I don’t understand why government want us more babies and increase population but our productivity very limited inland overall rate.
[10:05 am, 18/07/2022] +Frankie Wee: The future is uncertainty
[10:06 am, 18/07/2022] +Uncle Law: Businesses won't want to develop their business especially for food production for local market, due to high biz costs such as rental, labour
[10:06 am, 18/07/2022] +Uncle Law: Local biz unable to compete their products with imported products due to their costs are high, hence selling price are not able to lower despite lower transportation costs
[10:06 am, 18/07/2022] +Uncle Law: Gov should look at providing rental reliefs and easing of hiring of foreign workers for companies that provides a certain % of their produce for local market.
[10:06 am, 18/07/2022] +Uncle Law: Say 90%
[10:06 am, 18/07/2022] +Uncle Law: This will attract more local biz to invest in Singapore, enhancing our food security
[10:06 am, 18/07/2022] +Uncle Law: More priority to be given to these companies when they need to bid land for expansion.
[10:30 am, 18/07/2022] +Smiley face: 18 July, 2022
Good morning everyone!
To: Our Distinguished Leaders and All Honorable Members
"EXCELLENCE IN FOOD PRODUCTIONS"
What if Singapore food drive 30/30 does succeed beyond its original intent of internalising food security, the excess food capacity could be exported to countries that are willing to try our certified high quality locally produced foods. This case perhaps could be a reversal of food supply chain from reliance to exporting?
Make it excellent:
Four drivers of affordable food are quality, scale, technology and networks.
Having achieved a high quality standard of food production. we can escalate into the next phase of producing more!
Besides having local production plants, scaling to overseas food production plants such as neighbouring Indonesia and Malaysia whereby labor are abundant and land is cheap too!
Using technologies (known and incubating through R&D) to replicate one's successes and scaling it up to 10 times or more than our local needs, that will be a first breakthrough and many more blooming business opportunities in making!
Our current networks of food supplies from various sources and countries will perhaps one day be our exporting targets?
Let's start thinking deeper and be brave to determine our original intent of self reliance, this important thing calls FOOD!
- - in progress - -
[11:59 am, 18/07/2022] +Boon: Supportive of local produce even if it could be slightly more expensive than imported ones. However, price is important (because it means affordability by people) and the farmers should be supported with cheaper electricity/water.
What local agricultural farms would produce should also be “strategic” - they should not all be trying to produce premium food at the expense of affordable food.
Are there plans to grow agricultural produce that is used to make others? If there is insufficient space in Singapore to do so, are there feasible strategic plan to rent land from neighboring countries to grow our food?
[0:05 pm, 18/07/2022] +Frankie Wee: I hope Singapore will succeed we have benefit and Low cost
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/floating-solar-panels-clean-energy-jurong-island-jtc-ema-enterprise-singapore-grant-2812996
[0:08 pm, 18/07/2022] +Boon: Singapore diets have also changed - eg, from less carb (rice) to more protein like fish and chicken, more bread (wheat) and salad. Therefore, it is not just about science or technology to help our local farmers - there should also be help to ensure our local farmers’ understanding of consumers dietary demand, so that the farmers can commercially sustain themselves in the longer run.
[0:17 pm, 18/07/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/eggs-may-cost-more-as-malaysian-poultry-farms-cut-output
Malaysia 40% of poultry farm close shop - now rapid reduction in chicken supply output - due to :-
1. Ceiling selling price set
2. Cost of chicken feed goes up
3. The more production, the greater cost
4. Dry up of subsidies to rear chicken.
5. Export ban - to higher profit market.
As expected, wrong policies - the export ban backfire - output did not increase but instead fall further as the more the rearers produce - the greater their loss - now many close shops - and worsen the supply problem.
I think we cannot depends on Malaysia chicken market to supply live chicken to us - better work with Indonesia Batam who is looking forward to supply live chicken to Singapore - as it is a short distance by boat - no need to feed the chicken to keep them alive - a viable source of live chicken.
[0:18 pm, 18/07/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
My close friend comments: MY killed its own chicken farmers.
My comments: Malaysia chicken industry could have gone down in one go.
And Singapore depends on them for 34% of our chicken import.
Now I think no choice, we may have to depend more on Indonesia import including live chicken.
My comments: This is clearly economic mismanagement.
My close friend comments: They cannot see the big picture.
Only focus on narrow self interest.
My comments: Yes this is the problem.
Now it backfire as expected.
But we also suffer collateral damage.
We also lose our live chicken for chicken rice.
[0:26 pm, 18/07/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
"Climate change affects everyone': Europe battles wildfires in intense heatwave".
More than 40 degree Celsius.
https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/spain-portugal-battle-wildfires-as-heatwaves-scorch-southern-europe#:~:text=Climate%20change%20affects%20everyone%27%3A%20Europe%20battles%20wildfires%20in%20intense%20heatwave
[1:39 pm, 18/07/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
1. Pouring over news after news - notably 3 pertinent threats (3 minor catastrophe - 小三灾）- can be attributed to our current threats in Global food security.
2. The 3 pertinent threats are :-
a. Global Climate (天灾）- Drought, Flood
b. Pandemic, animal illness (瘟疫）- covid disruption, poultry and animal viruses
c. Human intervention （人祸）- War, economic mismanagement
3. These 3 pertinent threats going forward is not going to get better, in fact it will at best continue or worsen - as global climate will not get better, hence protectionism on food will intensify. Animal viruses - zoonotic illness that jump from animals to human and vice versa - will not get better either.
4. Hence we have to plan "Just in case" not "just in time" - for our food security - just like our water security and energy security.
[1:39 pm, 18/07/2022] +REACH: Dear Contributors,
We want to HEAR MORE from YOU!
We have had good feedback from this group, and we hope that we can keep the discussion robust and active!
Megan 😊
[1:46 pm, 18/07/2022] +SL: From a consumer perspective:
1) what is the benefit of buying local (e.g., better taste? Cheaper Price? Freshness? Alternative food replacement? Loyalty points?)
2) the importance of awareness of the product and food safety concept that will influence them to buy local?
[2:02 pm, 18/07/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
5. Current World Population is 7.96 billion people.
By 2057, it is projected to exceed 10 billion people.
6. Hence, we cannot operate like "business as usual" - as the World demand for food will grow exponentially, while fertile lands and climate conditions to grow crops and animals for food - are shrinking.
7. Ensuring our own food security rather than - mainly dependants on imported food (currently more than 90% of our food are imported overseas) ---- cannot be our doctrine going forward.
8. Even we are wealthy to be able to pay a high price for the world food - cannot guarantee that food can land on our shores - as we see how food are block by war, food protectionism as food exporters cannot grow sufficient food for export - and local government protect domestic consumers rather than export their food even at higher profit, and not sufficient crops and animal food are produce as fertile lands shrink.
(That is, even got money cannot guarantee to buy food - to feed our population. Hence, we need local production of food -- crops and meat - to ensure we won't go hungry when crisis strike).
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[2:03 pm, 18/07/2022] +REACH: 📢 Topic 📢
Local farms are feeling the strain of rising operation costs and electricity prices, and many have had to raise the prices of their produce. Despite higher prices, some farms report an increase in demand for their produce, partially due to recent brushes with food security threats. Inflation and supply chain disruptions have been driving up the cost of fish feed, fingerlings - or juvenile fish - seeds, fertiliser and logistics.
Some of the reasons for the premium on fish feed are the supply chain disruption of grains due to the Russia-Ukraine war and recent adverse weather events in some parts of the world affecting crops.
💬 What are your views on supporting local agricultural farms amid unpredictable production conditions worldwide? What are some reasons that may encourage you to consume more local agricultural produce?
A spokesman for local vertical farm Sustenir said delays in farming material supplies and rising inflation have significantly increased the cost of doing business.
But amid the trying period, there is some cause for optimism as demand for local produce has seen an uptick as food security came to the fore with the global food supply crunch and Malaysia's chicken export ban, which started last month.
A spokesman for the Singapore Agro-Food Enterprises Federation noted that some of the farms that are open to visitors have reported an increase in footfall for a few months now as people become more interested in local produce and want to learn more about the production process.
Singapore has set a goal to produce 30 per cent of its people's nutritional needs by 2030. To combat the various economic uncertainties, local farms should adopt renewable energy and turn to innovation to rely less on conventional fertilisers, said Professor William Chen, director of the food science and technology programme at Nanyang Technological University.
"The need to push for local food production for enhanced food security is even greater against the backdrop of the headwinds in the global food system," Prof Chen added.
👉🏼https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/environment/local-farms-hit-by-rising-costs-forced-to-raise-prices-but-demand-is-up-amid-food-security-threats
👉🏼https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/freegan-food-rescue-reduce-waste-save-money-free-2808991
[2:04 pm, 18/07/2022] +Rama: We have to do our level best to support local produce
[2:09 pm, 18/07/2022] +RH: My thots too ...
If we exceed the target, we will not only be helping ourselves, but also be able to offer help to others if needed.
Let's think positive !
😁
[2:12 pm, 18/07/2022] +SL: In reality, what is the factor consumers buy the local products? The economic cycle will break if the process is not self-sustainable.
[2:18 pm, 18/07/2022] +SL: Will business owners use the profit earned from the export of local products as a subsidy to the local food product price to command the local market share while competing with food import products during non crisis times?
[2:30 pm, 18/07/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
We need to have a short term, medium term and long term "Food Security Plan" going forward
Short Term Food Security Plan
1. Stockpile and warehousing of crops and meat (with high tech means) - to ensure we can stockpile and warehouse our imported crops and meat during good harvest at reasonable prices for months or even years- such as freezing, drying, and other tech means to keep the freshness, safety and healthy nutrients intact.
2. Diversify our imported foods - not only from the traditional import sources - but also further afield - to ensure that our web of supplies cannot be totally disrupted or blocked.
But prices and familiarity or preference for food in certain Countries will always take precedent among our local population.
Hence Government must formulate policies to ensure that our food importers must bring in imports from a few diverse food sources or suppliers - and supermarkets must carry the diverse food imports at competitive prices by creative marketing, promotion, packaging and pricing - to entice our consumers to buy the food from diverse sources.
Eg. If buy one Thai rice at $5.90 of 5Kg - will get a discounted $2 of India rice at 1 kg. If not local consumers can only buy a Thai rice of 5Kg at $10 for example.
In this way, we will get consumers to buy and eat different rice from different food sourcse --- and this will ensure local consumers will not only eat Thai rice and not other rices produce by other Countries.
This will incentivise our food importers from getting and sustaining our diverse food supply chain - by not concentrating in one Country like Thailand and ignore other Countries like India.
So in the event if Thailand rice is disrupted (or like Malaysia chicken supply 34% is disrupted by export ban) ---- we will not "kadang ga bo" - to scramble for alternative food sources --- as we can quickly ramp up India rice import.
Else if go by local consumer preference - people will tend to eat more Thai rice - and food importers have no incentive to bring in India rice.
When crisis struck - and Thai rice supply is hit - we got no alternative rice supply. Thus creative marketing, promotion, packaging, pricing etc need to kick in --- to ensure our diversify food sources can be sustained - and Government policies can push food importers, local consumption pattern - into this direction of diversifying our food sources.
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[2:37 pm, 18/07/2022] +Umar M: This is last year.
[2:37 pm, 18/07/2022] +Umar M: Why would the announcement come from your friend and not here?
[2:38 pm, 18/07/2022] +RH: That's wat I was thinking.
☺️ thanks for clarifying.
I'll tell tt fren off. Tks.
[2:38 pm, 18/07/2022] +Umar M: Go to the link provided in the image and you'll see the date.
[2:39 pm, 18/07/2022] +RH: 🙏🏻Thank you.
[2:40 pm, 18/07/2022] +Uncle Law: Old news
[2:40 pm, 18/07/2022] +Uncle Law: Pls del
[2:41 pm, 18/07/2022] +Caleb: Maybe gov need to delete all the old posters from their website
[2:41 pm, 18/07/2022] +Caleb: Moving forward put the year also
[2:42 pm, 18/07/2022] +Frankie Wee: Old date confirm is phase 2 go back???
[2:44 pm, 18/07/2022] +Ken Loh: Think cause no date that’s the problem it’s been sending around
[2:45 pm, 18/07/2022] +Frankie Wee: Pls re-confirmation from MOH
[2:47 pm, 18/07/2022] +Caleb: on their poster, info-graphics
[2:47 pm, 18/07/2022] +RH: go.gov.sg/mtf0608
[2:48 pm, 18/07/2022] +Joseph: Think a lot of people nowadays just "need" to show they "know". Would rather send wrong information as long as they are "first" than be seen to slow or not in the know.
Just stop, think, read, think again.... before clicking "forward"
[2:48 pm, 18/07/2022] +RH: Apologies for the confusion, everyone.
Hv reprimanded the fren who sent this.
☺️
[2:49 pm, 18/07/2022] +Caleb: am not surprised, even like gov.sg WhatsApp & telegram is the last one to release news
[2:49 pm, 18/07/2022] +Joseph: Going by that logic, all internet content should have an expiry date and be auto deleted after a certain date 🤷♂️
People should just learn to read CAREFULLY and THINK before they act... its not a new concept
[2:49 pm, 18/07/2022] +RH: Feedback .. Pls add Year to yr link
eg. 2021 0608
And not just 0608 ...
[2:50 pm, 18/07/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Medium Term Food Security Plan
1. Local production of food - crops, and animal meats - though with our tight constraints become imperative - as our Medium Term Food Security Plan - as we need to ensure we can locally produce some food crops and meat - so that we won't go hungry.
And the initiative 30 by 30 - is a good Medium Term Food Security Plan.
But we need to set aside premium land and resources to achieve this 30 by 30 food security plan.
2. The challenges we face in local production of crops and meats are as follows :-
a. Energy and water supply to grow crops and sustain animals development.
Currently we are still very dependant on natural gas derive from fossil fuel to provide us the energy to grow crops and sustain animals production as well as recycling, desalinate and purify our water.
As fuel and gas supply and price fluctuate in tandem with global fuel and gas production and pricing through OPEC, our local farm energy cost will also go up and down --- and affect the local cost of production - which in turn will hit our locally produce food prices.
Hence, we also need to look at "Self sufficiency" in the tune of energy sustainability - through solar panels (derive from sun), hydrogen gas (derive from H20 water, solar, biomass), safe nuclear energy, geothermal, or regional energy grid ---- to ensure our energy supplies are not disrupted and also maintain our energy price consistently - and not wildly fluctuating.
We are less concern in water production - as our current multiple water taps - reservoir, recycled newater, desalination and imported water --- are reliable and consistent.
b. Our limited land spaces, human resources for high-tech farms - will put constraint to how much crops, vegetables, eggs, fruits, and meat we can locally produce to feed our entire population.
Hence by 2030 to locally produce 30% of our food source is attainable though abit stretch - but still achievable - but yet not sufficient to feed the entire population - if 3 crisis again threaten and World population grow to a level - whereby we will have difficulty to get 70% of our food supply from overseas.
Hence we need to formulate a "Long Term Food Security Plan".
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[2:50 pm, 18/07/2022] +Frankie Wee: ✅✅✅✅
[2:51 pm, 18/07/2022] +BL: That would be helpful yes
[2:52 pm, 18/07/2022] +Caleb: imagine, tourist follow this guidelines.....
[2:55 pm, 18/07/2022] +Joseph: After the internet banking scams and all the resources into educating the public about how to identify fraudulent/misleading/fake messages...and nothing has changed for most people... fingers still moving faster than their brain 😑
So, whose fault is it? Scammers, Govt? Or the people themselves?
[3:00 pm, 18/07/2022] +Joseph: If the tourist/visitor is smart enough (or at least care enough to verify simple details) to buy the right ticket for the correct flight departing on the correct day ar the correct time from the correct airport departing for the intended country, arriving on the correct date/time.... I think, they should be able to do similarly with an announcement like this.
[3:03 pm, 18/07/2022] +Joseph: Its the lazy, trigger happy, must be the first in sharing news, home of the website "mustshare news" locals, that is maybe we need to be more concerned about .... because, as shown in this few exchanges, rather than reflecting on how they can do better by themselves the next time to read, verify, think before they send/forward, they would rather think up all sorts of excuses and measures for the Govt (and others) to implement so that they will not make the same stupid mistake again in 5min
[3:11 pm, 18/07/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Long Term Food Security Plan
1. With our limited land spaces, resources constraint, scarce human talent - even though we can go "high tech" in crops, vegetables, eggs, meat production - there will still be a constraint in our food output yield - if go by the traditional methods of food production - even going "high tech, vertical farming, offshore farming, sea farming etc".
2. Hence a breakthrough in food production - notably "lab food production", "3D printed food production", "Manufacturing plan mass production" ---- will be the only way to go ---- to ensure we can produce large scale food, meat and even crops.
3. Long medium term - will be the lab-based "plant-based meat" - whereby plant based ingredients are transformed into alternate meats in the lab and mass produce by manufacturing plants. Such method of production can ramp up to feed the whole Singapore population and can also mass produce for exports.
However, the ingredients will still depends on traditional crop production to produce the plants required to transform into meat.
4. Long term - will be the "cell-culture and tissue re-engineering meat" - whereby healthy cells are extracted from healthy domesticated animals like chicken, cow, sheep, fish, prawn, crab, eggs etc - to produce meat for food --- in the lab and mass produce in bioreactor to form meat for food.
Again, such method of production can ramp up to feed the whole Singapore population and can also mass produce for exports.
In addition, both "plant-based meat" and "cell-culture and tissue re-engineering meat" - have the following benefits :-
a. More compassionate ways of producing meat for food - without killing and mass slaughtering of animals for meat.
b. Less lands require to grow animal feed (10 times the land need to set aside to grow crops for 1 land space for animals) - hence grossly reduce global climate changes, water and energy to produce crops and sustain animals.
c. More healthy - as trans fat, saturated fats, hormone, anti-biotics etc that are found in rearing live animals can be removed from both type of lab production - while healthy supplements can be used for the lab meat production.
5. The challenges in enticing local population and overseas consumers in consuming lab based meat are :-
a. Buy in - to ensure the lab based meat is safe, healthy and fit for human consumption.
b. Price must be comparable to local traditional food sources.
c. Traditional food sources like crops, vegetable, eggs and meat have been depleted to such a level - that it is not possible to import from overseas producers due to triple whammy of global climate conditions, food protectionism, food disruption and pandemics that affect animal meats and crops production.
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[3:16 pm, 18/07/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
What are the reasons that will encourage me to consume of local produce
a. Competitive price - comparable to imported food
b. Good quality - fresh, tasty
c. Food Safety, Healthy food
[3:26 pm, 18/07/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Eg. Live chicken versus frozen chicken.
Food importers can do creative marketing, promotion, pricing, packaging to our chicken rice stalls - through government policy:-
Buy 1 live chicken at eg. $5 from Indonesia, then get discounted 1 pack of frozen chicken from Thailand at $2.
Else pay $10 for 1 live chicken from Indonesia.
I bet chicken rice stall will get both live and frozen chicken from the promotion and sell at cheaper price to consumers.
[3:33 pm, 18/07/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Chicken stall will cook steam white cut chicken rice using live chicken.
And fried or roast or pengkang chicken rice from frozen chicken.
Chicken rice can be sell at affordable prices and yet earn a good profit without the need to raise food prices.
[3:39 pm, 18/07/2022] +Rama: https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/health-environment/article/3185452/singapore-pursuing-false-climate-solution-buying
[4:00 pm, 18/07/2022] +REACH: 📢 Topic 📢
Local farms are feeling the strain of rising operation costs and electricity prices, and many have had to raise the prices of their produce. Despite higher prices, some farms report an increase in demand for their produce, partially due to recent brushes with food security threats. Inflation and supply chain disruptions have been driving up the cost of fish feed, fingerlings - or juvenile fish - seeds, fertiliser and logistics.
Some of the reasons for the premium on fish feed are the supply chain disruption of grains due to the Russia-Ukraine war and recent adverse weather events in some parts of the world affecting crops.
💬 What are your views on supporting local agricultural farms amid unpredictable production conditions worldwide? What are some reasons that may encourage you to consume more local agricultural produce?
A spokesman for local vertical farm Sustenir said delays in farming material supplies and rising inflation have significantly increased the cost of doing business.
But amid the trying period, there is some cause for optimism as demand for local produce has seen an uptick as food security came to the fore with the global food supply crunch and Malaysia's chicken export ban, which started last month.
A spokesman for the Singapore Agro-Food Enterprises Federation noted that some of the farms that are open to visitors have reported an increase in footfall for a few months now as people become more interested in local produce and want to learn more about the production process.
Singapore has set a goal to produce 30 per cent of its people's nutritional needs by 2030. To combat the various economic uncertainties, local farms should adopt renewable energy and turn to innovation to rely less on conventional fertilisers, said Professor William Chen, director of the food science and technology programme at Nanyang Technological University.
"The need to push for local food production for enhanced food security is even greater against the backdrop of the headwinds in the global food system," Prof Chen added.
👉🏼https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/environment/local-farms-hit-by-rising-costs-forced-to-raise-prices-but-demand-is-up-amid-food-security-threats
👉🏼https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/freegan-food-rescue-reduce-waste-save-money-free-2808991
[4:35 pm, 18/07/2022] +Smiley face: 18 July, 2022
To: All Honorable Members
"Drinking water and Salt Water"
Water is most important:
Rising sea level means the salt content will change and each area of sea water and its salt content differs from elsewhere coupled with tides and currents. All of these variables are deep knowledge to explore and indepth understanding because it will affect ships of all tonnages and submarines (undersea drones) too.
Importantly, on a global water scale, the percentage of portable (drinking) water is 2.5% of the entire water ecology. Therefore it will be a prized commodity for all nations to secure this drinkable water, all time and always crucial!
For Singapore, water security is an old and a CRUCIAL topic as we closing into 2065 where our agreement with Johor expires. It will not be alarming because the foreseeable future of this impending water agreement will be renewed and the service price will have to change (increase in folds) too.
Should the future sea water and its content reduces say within our EZ shorelines, then the energy source and cost needed to salinate into portable water may be reduced? The future technologies will also be renewed as time goes by and so will the measurement of salt content evolves.
Afterwords:
Water, Energy, Food (WEF) are three current challenges and into the uncertain future! Any shortage of potable water will have devastating consequences never experience since the birth of human beings (post dinosaurs era).
Meat metrics:
The meat metrics of chicken, pork and beef.
1kg of chicken needs 2 kgs of feeds
1kg of pork needs 4 kgs of feeds
1kg of beef needs 7 kgs feeds
- - in progress - -
[4:43 pm, 18/07/2022] +RH: Whatever the situation is, we have to take care of ourselves first.
I m glad tt, despite everything else tt is gg on ard us, our gov is also looking into ensuring food security for our popn.
30 by 30 sounds achievable and possibly more , if more funds and incentives can be channelled to assist the respective biz to move forward.
We really hv to learn to be more self sufficient and not be held to ransom by some foreign nation withholding supplies from us ...
... That would definitely break us.
Wat abt community farming on our roof tops? I've seen recent news on this ... Needs more of such efforts.
Growing our own food is one side of the coin.
All efforts wud go to waste if nobody buys. Since we know the produce is fresher, more nutritious, etc, we shd be prepared to pay a little more for it and in turn, support our very own growers.
Over time, the increased demand will help to stabilise the price.
Ther must always be a starting point and we all know tt it's never easy from the start.
[4:47 pm, 18/07/2022] +RH: On a separate note, wat is happening on the protection of our vulnerable shore front, against climate change.
So many things r changing.
We cannot take for granted tt our shorelines r not at risk of being eroded as the earth itself is being physically challenged.
Wl we hv another island to escape to , for instance, if we were to suddenly hv a tsunami wash over our shores?
How secure is our land fr shifting belts and tremors tt happen to our neighbouring countries (and hopefully not affecting us)?
[4:51 pm, 18/07/2022] +Rama: Singapore MOH: Second COVID-19 booster not recommended for people aged 60 to 79
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/covid-19-vaccine-second-booster-senior-60-79-2641261
[4:51 pm, 18/07/2022] +Rama: Wth!?
[4:52 pm, 18/07/2022] +RH: We need to re evaluate the way we live our lives.
In order to cope w the new norms of climate change, war and other disruptions to our food, energy resources, we need to change our livestyles.
Eat fresh or eat frozen -- choose.
Eat beautiful or 'ugly' fruits / veg -- choose.
Eat fresh meat or lab grown meat -- choose.
Reuse, reduce, recycle, re purpose, re align ... Whatever.
It looks like the list goes on.
Whatever the situation, we have to learn to adapt and make things work, else we will may not be able to survive for long.
[4:55 pm, 18/07/2022] +Rama: So, the planned SMS by MOH will not roll out!?
[4:55 pm, 18/07/2022] +RH: *lifestyles
[5:06 pm, 18/07/2022] +Suma pamu: 😱😱
[5:06 pm, 18/07/2022] +Smiley face: 18 July, 2022
"Subsiding of Public Goods"
This case our 30/30 food initiatives is a good head start with a few advisories.
One, subsidising a new primary industry take lots of time and money to up bring it to commercial status and values. It has to be justifiable and priority given to the most promising lots.
Two, if overly subsidising such national agenda, it may become counter productive because these food players will not be competitive and often seeking for fundings which is not a sustainable solution for any industry.
Three, there will always be a portion of keen consumers that is willing to try and buy our local products though it may not be price competitive to say vegetables from China. What's the economies of scale for our producers and their volume of trades ? Perhaps it is the will of our people to encourage them to support our food producers of seafoods and green vegetables to their best ability.
[5:09 pm, 18/07/2022] +Rama: Looks like expert committee not so expert after all!? What about those who did take the jab!?
[5:16 pm, 18/07/2022] +Suma pamu: How about 3rd one.. ?
For my gal Booster is due..
As currently participating NSG games, waiting...
Aiyyo
Now not sure
I am really not comfortable
For myself and hubby alrdy took booster ..
[5:24 pm, 18/07/2022] +Rama: 3rd vaccination is advisable
[5:25 pm, 18/07/2022] +Joseph: the copywriter should be fired .. seems like he/she doesn't even understand the difference between "not recommended", "recommended (to) not", "does/do not recommend" and "recommended (that people) do not" 🤦♂️
[5:25 pm, 18/07/2022] +Rama: Heads to start rolling soon!
[5:39 pm, 18/07/2022] +Suma pamu: Hmm
[5:54 pm, 18/07/2022] +~N: NParks initiative of giving seeds and growing edibles is good. There are some practical limitations such as space, sun, water access but I think there are possible solutions. I suggest NParks conduct a focus group to find out the enablers that encourage households to grow edibles and work with town constituencies. We already have vertical households, we just need to modify it for vertical farming.
[5:55 pm, 18/07/2022] +Frankie Wee: https://bbc.in/3AYyoEK?fbclid=IwAR2GQ-sDagPWPrbk2s20ZAM-JTArAUwwcHo7siULLGJ2FJ43k82bhxeYU2U
[6:00 pm, 18/07/2022] +REACH: 📢 Topic 📢
Local farms are feeling the strain of rising operation costs and electricity prices, and many have had to raise the prices of their produce. Despite higher prices, some farms report an increase in demand for their produce, partially due to recent brushes with food security threats. Inflation and supply chain disruptions have been driving up the cost of fish feed, fingerlings - or juvenile fish - seeds, fertiliser and logistics.
Some of the reasons for the premium on fish feed are the supply chain disruption of grains due to the Russia-Ukraine war and recent adverse weather events in some parts of the world affecting crops.
💬 What are your views on supporting local agricultural farms amid unpredictable production conditions worldwide? What are some reasons that may encourage you to consume more local agricultural produce?
A spokesman for local vertical farm Sustenir said delays in farming material supplies and rising inflation have significantly increased the cost of doing business.
But amid the trying period, there is some cause for optimism as demand for local produce has seen an uptick as food security came to the fore with the global food supply crunch and Malaysia's chicken export ban, which started last month.
A spokesman for the Singapore Agro-Food Enterprises Federation noted that some of the farms that are open to visitors have reported an increase in footfall for a few months now as people become more interested in local produce and want to learn more about the production process.
Singapore has set a goal to produce 30 per cent of its people's nutritional needs by 2030. To combat the various economic uncertainties, local farms should adopt renewable energy and turn to innovation to rely less on conventional fertilisers, said Professor William Chen, director of the food science and technology programme at Nanyang Technological University.
"The need to push for local food production for enhanced food security is even greater against the backdrop of the headwinds in the global food system," Prof Chen added.
👉🏼https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/environment/local-farms-hit-by-rising-costs-forced-to-raise-prices-but-demand-is-up-amid-food-security-threats
👉🏼https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/freegan-food-rescue-reduce-waste-save-money-free-2808991
[6:23 pm, 18/07/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
1. NParks, Town Councils, road side spaces allocated for vegetables and fruits planting, I sometimes see chicken running around --- are mostly for recreation farming - not a long term solution to cater for Singapore populatoin food needs.
2. Let us look at the amount of various food consume annually by Singapore population :-
a. Vegetables = 558,000 metric tonnes
b. Rice - 347,000 metric tons
c. Eggs - 2.21 billion piece
3. Wonder how does recreation farming produce such volumes to meet our Singapore population consumption needs per year.
[6:40 pm, 18/07/2022] +Smiley face: Are we consuming 3 times or greater of what is a 6 million population?
It matters because of scaling and viability for our local food producers.
[6:45 pm, 18/07/2022] +REACH: Dear Contributors,
⏰ We will be closing the chat in 15 minutes ⏰
Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Goodnight!
Megan
[6:47 pm, 18/07/2022] +Smiley face: Recreational Farming
A good thought however there will be a need to regulate the parameters and maybe a co-operative could come in to buy these "part time" farm products from the folks.
How to regulate, assign ownership and the sensitive takings that is money?
[6:47 pm, 18/07/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
I believe the amount of food consume accurately reflect the population consumption.
If a person eat 3 meals a day, he can't be eating 9 plate of meal - just to satisfy his craving for food.
[6:49 pm, 18/07/2022] +Smiley face: In short, a 6 million city population eating like a 20+ million population?
[6:50 pm, 18/07/2022] +Rama: Exactly!
[6:50 pm, 18/07/2022] +Smiley face: Portions and kgs in play
[6:50 pm, 18/07/2022] ☸️ Danny 心: ???
[6:51 pm, 18/07/2022] +Smiley face: 6 million of under privilege vs 6 million of privilege.... What's the difference in consumption pattern?
[6:53 pm, 18/07/2022] +Smiley face: Spending power in play...
[6:54 pm, 18/07/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
If I am rich I will probably eat a plate of chicken rice at gourmet price $10.
If I am poorer, I will probably eat a chicken rice of $3.50.
But the serving is the same - because my stomach cannot eat more than a plate of chicken rice.
[6:55 pm, 18/07/2022] +Rama: NTU & SMU degrees allegedly not recognised in us/uk – “what uni is that”
I’m from NTU and my friend from SMU similarly had the same experience where the employer or HR would email us asking whether if our University is accredited in their local database.Everyone else I know from NTU and almost all the time from SMU, we get the same “what university is that?
https://news.nestia.com/detail_share/9319774?media_type=1&invite_code=000562032624&nestiaShareChannel=whatsapp
[6:56 pm, 18/07/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
So don't understand why wealthier population can eat 3 times more than a poorer population?
[6:58 pm, 18/07/2022] ☸️ Danny 心:
Because whether poor or rich - a person stomach capacity is so much and can't expand 3 times bigger.
[6:58 pm, 18/07/2022] +Smiley face: Next time, try to explain this paradox of consumption....
[6:59 pm, 18/07/2022] +Smiley face: 18 July, 2022
To: Our Distinguished Leaders and All Honorable Members
"Competitive knowledge-base (商业智能和商业秘密) "
"how to copy, redesign and better that product...?"
- - annoymous
Food, Land, Energy, Water (FLEW)
What if the economics of Scarcity happens and Climate changes accelerate into 2030 and beyond, it will affect all the above four components (FLEW) and a big impact on lives and limping livelihoods?
Who are those Big Food Players?
An example, Brazil is a big meat producer in the world. We need to understand their business model of cost, production scale, marketing and distribution.
How about new players and new food producers?
One example, Bill and Melinda Gates foundation is one front driver of the future of food, it will be a big breakthrough in food technologies and the future global food supply! Can we also piggyback, invest in them and quickly learn from these pioneers of food wizards? Or these economics of future food developments will not yield bumper crop of all sorts? Or many breakthroughs for these new food producers so much so that the affordability and adoption indexes outbeat the traditional food producers (limit to organic and green farmers) whether they are meat or vegetables?
For old habits and mindsets die hard; you need multiple new habits to recondition many existing habits in order to reset peoples' mind in eating these new foods. In reversal trend, what if traditional produces become dearer to the new ways of producing foods? What's the intuit?
All these valuable business intelligence models will be a good resource in planning our food needs as we move forward into our productions (targeted) list of essential food. We have to understand clearly what's our critical food list and at the same time the opposite that is opportunities to export of produces.
Summary, business intelligence are available freely and through our integrated overseas trades offices and embassies representing us. This is a good starting point in gathering information, updating and verifying these data what's these food producing nations are doing, their challenges, their capacities and finally their future trajectories ? One sure thing, inflation will stay on and wages must go up too.
Afterwords:
Thinking of the future of Fintech, Medic tech, Edutech, Greentech and Recall & Relearn:
https://youtu.be/GRHHOI-WvVc
- - in progress - -
[7:00 pm, 18/07/2022] +Smiley face: Derived demand and the dynamics of a vibrant economy.... Perhaps drives bigger appetite?
[7:00 pm, 18/07/2022] +REACH: Dear Contributors,
We will be closing the chat for today.
Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Goodnight!
Megan 😊
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