REACH 263 - View on Transit to endemic safely (SK)
6 Aug 2021 (10am - 7pm)
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[10:59 am, 06/08/2021] +REACH: π’ Topic π’
An interim measure to reduce potential COVID-19 transmission in hospitals will see visits to all wards ceased, with some exceptions, from Aug 5 to Aug 18, said the Ministry of Health (MOH) on Wednesday (Aug 4). This comes after more COVID-19 community cases were detected recently, which include staff members and patients of hospitals, said MOH.
π¬ As the Government continues to push on with efforts to maintain the safety of the community against COVID-19 and the community doing its best to stay safe, how do you think we can transition to endemic Singapore?
The Multi-ministry Taskforce (MTF) will be providing an update on the Covid-19 situation soon, Finance Minister Lawrence Wong said in a Facebook post on 5 Aug.
Singapore had re-entered Phase 2 (Heightened Alert) since Jul. 22, where further restrictions were implemented to curb community spread.
Previously, Health Minister Ong Ye Kung had explained that the stricter restrictions were necessary to protected unvaccinated seniors who are likely to visit markets and will be at risk due to the Jurong Fishery Port cluster.
Minister Ong, however, said if more people in the population are fully vaccinated, that will put us "in a much stronger and resilient position" and the Phase 2 (HA) rules will be reviewed again.
As of 4 August 2021, 65% of our population has completed their full regimen/ received two doses of COVID-19 vaccines under the national vaccination programme, and 78% has received at least one dose.
π https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/moh-bars-visits-to-hospital-wards-from-aug-5-to-aug-18-some-exemptions-including-for-new
π https://www.facebook.com/LawrenceWongST/posts/372195407599278
π https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/79-year-old-unvaccinated-man-dies-from-covid-19-virus-death-toll-hits-40-in-singapore
π https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/96-new-locally-transmitted-cases-of-covid-19-38-unlinked
π https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/travellers-from-taiwan-need-not-serve-shn-from-aug-7-if-they-test-negative-on
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[11:02 am, 06/08/2021] +Caleb: COVID 19 medical treatment have to be paid by the patient or their medical insurance
[11:03 am, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
It is thus imperative that Mandatory Vaccination must be imposed - to ensure all unvaccinated elderly people are vaccinated.
Cannot just leave it to chance.
[11:03 am, 06/08/2021] +Caleb: and not subsidies by the gov, like not
[11:03 am, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ: https://www.straitstimes.com/world/united-states/deltas-spread-seen-pushing-herd-immunity-threshold-above-80-per-cent
US CDC say 80% vaccination to achieve herd immunity against Delta variants is not good enough.
More than 90% vaccination is necessary to achieve herd immunity against the more transmissible Delta variants.
[11:03 am, 06/08/2021] +Caleb: maybe start with those not fully vax first
[11:04 am, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Another news article from CNA supporting Mandatory Vaccination against covid.
Easier to implement and less social discontentment
[11:06 am, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Another unvaccinated 79 years old perish.
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/79-year-old-unvaccinated-man-dies-from-covid-19-virus-death-toll-hits-40-in-singapore
[11:07 am, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/south-asia/experts-believe-india-is-no-closer-to-herd-immunity-because-of-delta-variant
Live scenario in India pushes medical experts to believe a higher threshold of more than 90% vaccination is needed for herd immunity against Delta variants.
[11:07 am, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/indonesia-ditches-herd-immunity-as-covid-19-delta-variant-pushes-it-beyond-reach
Indonesia share similar experience that only more than 90% vaccination, can herd immunity be reached.
[11:12 am, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ: https://www.straitstimes.com/world/united-states/fda-aiming-to-give-final-approval-to-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-by-early-next-month
US FDA aiming to give full and final approval for Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine by early next month.
This means Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine will no longer authorized for used under Emergency Approval.
This will make Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine the 1st candidate suitable for Mandatory Vaccination!
[11:12 am, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/world/who-deeply-concerned-long-covid-19-2092646
WHO 'deeply concerned' by long COVID-19
[11:13 am, 06/08/2021] +Ken Loh: π
[11:13 am, 06/08/2021] +Ken Loh: Don’t bet on that.. if you know how they do their vaccination π€£π€£
[11:18 am, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-57833394
Long Covid: What is it and what are the symptoms?
[11:18 am, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Because as vaccines trigger the development of the anti-bodies - the anti-bodies attack the covid and prevent it from further replication.
As covid replicate less, viral load become lower - and thus less likely to cause damage to human organs and the red blood cells - reducing the chance of long covid among the Vaccinated.
[11:20 am, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
3May2021 I Suggest hospital patients should be vaccinated at the hospital if medically eligible - so they can be protected from covid in the hospital.
4Aug2021 CNA All patients who are unvaccinated will be approached by hospital healthcare team on covid-19 vaccination if clinically appropriate.
Patients who received their 1st dose covid vaccination at the hospital should return to the same hospital for their 2nd dose, said MOH.
[11:23 am, 06/08/2021] +Caleb: +1
[11:30 am, 06/08/2021] +Valli: Allow only vaccinated visitors in with all SMM in place
[11:39 am, 06/08/2021] +Caleb: New website www.moh.gov.sg/ is good to become endemic
[11:42 am, 06/08/2021] +Ben: Yes, this is excellent!
[0:18 pm, 06/08/2021] +Smiley face: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8051011/
[0:19 pm, 06/08/2021] +Caleb: MOH shld stop issuing number of daily cases. But just report together in the nightly updates on nos in hospital ect
[0:27 pm, 06/08/2021] +Suma pamu: please provide Actual linkfor the same also any data related to this
[0:28 pm, 06/08/2021] +Suma pamu: +1
[0:28 pm, 06/08/2021] +Thomas: https://www.india.com/news/world/epsilon-variant-coronavirus-vaccine-resistant-highly-transmissible-pakistan-all-you-need-to-know-4857023/. Just when we thought it cannot get any worse, ...
[0:28 pm, 06/08/2021] +Thomas: Alamak …,
[0:29 pm, 06/08/2021] +Suma pamu: Aiyyo ππ’
[0:31 pm, 06/08/2021] +Rama: π¨π±π€¦♀️πππ
[0:38 pm, 06/08/2021] +Smiley face: Gibraltar:
A British Overseas Territory and headland, on Spain's south coast.
Area: 6.7sq km
Population : 34, 000
Vaccination: 99% (mRNA)
Covid Death: 95 (0.2% of populatio)
Main:
https://www.chronicle.gi/govt-announces-covid-death-as-hospitalisations-rise/
Afterwords:
"As you solve one set of problems, new ones appear. That is part of the nature of life."
-- Lee Kuan Yew
"BE OVERLY PREPARED and HOPE FOR THE BEST... many things in life are BEYOND ONES CONTROL, at the minimum - BE WELL PREPARED!"
-- Ian T
[0:41 pm, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
To go endemic now without 100% vaccination, we expect hundred and thousand of death.
Do we want this to happen or do we with a stroke of the law enforce Mandatory Vaccination - save many lives.
[0:44 pm, 06/08/2021] +Ken Loh: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-08-05/malaysia-changes-goals-for-states-to-open-up-in-recovery-plan?srnd=health
With our neighbour don’t really care… I really don’t know what Singapore can do?
[1:10 pm, 06/08/2021] +Suma pamu: https://trib.al/g40gcXv
[1:13 pm, 06/08/2021] +REACH: [Sent by Gov.sg – 6 Aug]
Vaccinations as of 4 Aug
- Received at least 1 dose: 4,337,397
- Completed full regimen*: 3,618,488
- % of population received at least 1 dose: 78%
- % of population completed full regimen*: 65%
Aged ≥ 70
- Received at least 1 dose: 81%
- Completed full regimen*: 75%
- Unvaccinated: 19%
Aged 60-69
- Received at least 1 dose: 88%
- Completed full regimen*: 84%
- Unvaccinated: 12%
Seniors – if you have not been vaccinated, please do so as soon as possible, so that you are protected and we can re-open safely.
Those aged 60 and above can walk-in at any vaccination centre, polyclinic, participating PHPC or mobile vaccination station to get vaccinated.
go.gov.sg/moh050821
*Received both doses or 1 dose for recovered individuals
[1:23 pm, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
1. Without 100% vaccination, and if declare endemic, it will easily overwhelm the hospital resources and deprive patients with other illnesses from getting treatment.
2. Hospital staff will also be at risk if too many covid patients congregate at the hospital.
3. So unless we impose mandatory vaccination and make everyone vaccinate - declaring endemic prematurely will have negative consequences.
[1:24 pm, 06/08/2021] +Joseph Ong: https://newsroom.uw.edu/resource/vaccines-challenge-evolving-covid-19-variants
Fortunately, the situation is not as dire as described, it seems ...achieving 100% vaccination rate remains the key to defeating CV19 π
[1:29 pm, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
To go into endemic mode the following conditions are required:-
1. US CDC study say that more than 90% vaccination is required as Delta variants is very transmissible like chickenpox.
2. Hence Mandatory Vaccination must be mandated to achieve the high Vaccination rate.
3. Elderly and vulnerable will succumb in the hundred or thousand - hence protecting them is imperative - and Mandatory Vaccination is the only means to achieve this objective.
4. Covid is not like common flu or cold - as it cause long covid that have long term severe illness - and Vaccination is the only means to prevent or greatly reduced the risk of long covid.
5. Hence Mandatory Vaccination is the mean to check long covid - and prevent heavy burden in the healthcare needs if many unvaccinated succumb to long covid the moment we declare endemic.
6. Remember no one is safe unless everyone is safe.
Even if 10% is unvaccinated, > 500,000 people are unvaccinated and will serve as a Trojan that will reinfect the majority.
7. Since Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine will be given a full and final approval for vaccines to fight covid by US CDC - that means this vaccine no longer consider as for emergency approval - and is suitable to be used for mandatory vaccination.
To conclude, I will like to urge the government to give serious consideration to the above suggestions before declaring endemic.
Everyone life is important. We can protect each and everyone - with a stroke of the law to mandate compulsory vaccination.
[1:48 pm, 06/08/2021] +Ben: Excellent numbers, great job by all the volunteers, and gov messaging.
[1:50 pm, 06/08/2021] +Ben: I think the point is that the daily case numbers are no longer a good indication alone. Need to look also at vaccinations numbers, hospital, icu etc
[1:50 pm, 06/08/2021] +Valli: GOV should give a breakdown by age range of the numbers in hospital who are very ill & in ICU.
Similar like what they provide for vaccination.
This may encourage us not to be complacent.
[1:53 pm, 06/08/2021] +Austin Ting: this info is provided as figure 7.
https://www.moh.gov.sg/news-highlights/details/update-on-local-covid-19-situation-(5-Aug-2021)
[2:18 pm, 06/08/2021] +REACH: Schools, polytechnics and ITE started fast and easy Covid-19 testing in July: MOE
Staff working at schools, polytechnics and the Institute of Technical Education (ITE) have had to do fast and easy testing (FET) for Covid-19, swabbing themselves since mid-July, while autonomous universities here will start testing when term resumes this month and next.
More: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/parenting-education/schools-polytechnics-and-ite-started-fast-and-easy-covid-19-testing-in
[2:20 pm, 06/08/2021] +REACH: Primary 1 registration: Four in 10 schools oversubscribed at close of Phase 2C
Four in 10 primary schools in Singapore were oversubscribed when the fifth phase of the annual Primary 1 registration closed on Thursday (Aug 5).
More: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/parenting-education/primary-1-registration-four-in-10-schools-oversubscribed-at-close-of
[2:32 pm, 06/08/2021] +Alvin Lim: Allow my 2.14cents
Endemic Plan (The End Game)
1) Masks MUST be mandatory as part of new normal, regardless of how many % been vaccinated. Get use to it.
2) Enforcement for non-compliance of wearing masks along public places, corridors etc MUST step up. There are many elderlies not wearing their masks around the housing estates and coffee shops.
3) Workplaces are becoming common place of flouting mask wearing rules. Eg. I see foreign workers in Changi airport offices walking about the corridor without masks. Need to have more checks and enforcement.
4) MMTF should consider being very careful about reopening air travel again. Eg. Locals returning back from overseas should still QO even if swab is negative and vaccinated, esp if they coming back from risky countries with Delta+ variants.
That’s all I have for now again my 2.14 cents
[2:41 pm, 06/08/2021] +CQ: I support the masking up! Can get by with minimal makeup. ππ»π
[2:44 pm, 06/08/2021] +Ben: Do we know why?
[2:51 pm, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/health-environment/article/3143805/coronavirus-singapore-study-mrna-vaccines-effect-delta
Coronavirus: Singapore study of mRNA vaccines’ effect on Delta raises hopes of shorter isolation periods.
Researchers find vaccinated people hit by breakthrough Covid-19 infections shed the virus faster than unvaccinated counterparts, raising the prospect of faster recoveries and shorter isolation periods.
While the study was not exhaustive, experts say the data reinforces the need for vaccinations alongside mask-wearing.
[2:51 pm, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/japan-debates-hospitalising-only-the-sickest-covid-19-patients-as-infection-records Japan with hospital resources under tremendous strain - is debating hospitalising only the sickest covid patients. as infection number soar.
[2:51 pm, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/indonesia-covid-19-deaths-vaccination-not-vaccinated-2094127 In Indonesia, unvaccinated has more than 3 times hihger covid death.
[2:51 pm, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-latest-news-nhs-staff-215155814.html
Vaccination prevented 66,900 hospitalisation in UK.
[2:53 pm, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
https://sg.yahoo.com/news/florida-and-texas-accounted-for-one-third-of-all-new-us-coronavirus-cases-last-week-white-house-says-215900063.html US most unvaccinated States - accounted for 1/3 of all new US covid infection number.
[2:54 pm, 06/08/2021] +Alvin Lim: Just need the mascara and eye shadow haha
[2:56 pm, 06/08/2021] +CQ: I'll probably just do BB cream and call it a day π
[2:56 pm, 06/08/2021] +Alvin Lim: π€
[3:00 pm, 06/08/2021] +Joseph Ong: This problem has been around forever ... makes you wonder if its ignorance, complacency or incompetence (or all of the above) on the G's part that this has become an annual "festival" π
[3:07 pm, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/mans-huge-regret-after-elderly-parents-get-covid-19-not-convincing-them-to-get
Man's huge regret after elderly parents get Covid-19: Not convincing them to get vaccinated early
[3:11 pm, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Why not compel Mandatory Vaccination if saving elderly life is imperative?
Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine will be given full and final approval soon.
[3:34 pm, 06/08/2021] +Rama: What will it cost the country before vaccination is compulsory!?
[3:35 pm, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Huge healthcare cost if no vaccination.
Vaccination is less costly.
[3:36 pm, 06/08/2021] +Rama: Might be too late then!
[3:37 pm, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Some elderly are just too stubborn or too fearful of the vaccines.
No matter how we talk until the cow come home - also will not want to vaccinate.
Only say government mandate, they no choice then will force to mandate.
[3:39 pm, 06/08/2021] +Rama: With the latest variant in Pakistan worrying India, better wake up! I thought landau variant was bad enough before this latest variant.
[3:43 pm, 06/08/2021] +Joseph Ong: Actually if you look at the vaccination rates for the elderly, it is really not that far off from the rest. Of course there are those who refuse to be vaccinated, but the numbers seem the same across all age categories.
I would be careful not to play into the hands of those who are hiding behind the "Govt forcing Elderly to vaccinate against their will" narrative, painting the picture of an uncaring Govt that should not be trusted, to support their decision not to vaccinate since it is a G initiative.
[3:44 pm, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/08/05/1025319741/cnn-fires-three-employees-work-unvaccinated
CNN Fires Three Employees For Coming To Work Unvaccinated
[3:45 pm, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
If the vaccines is given full and final approval by health authority - mandatory vaccination is the norm just like other mandatory vaccines.
[3:46 pm, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Save lives is more important than anything else
[3:47 pm, 06/08/2021] +Alvin Lim: I think the issue is they are most vulnerable lot, hence if can get 100% from their age group it's better to get 100%
[3:47 pm, 06/08/2021] +Thomas: This epsilon variant originated from California, USA. With so much anti vaxx and hesitancy to vaccinate in US, won’t be surprised variant coming from there
[3:48 pm, 06/08/2021] +Rama: Possibly
[3:50 pm, 06/08/2021] +Joseph Ong: I am not disageeing with full vaccinations.
I am saying, look at the statistics - which is something i notice you do a lot of - the % of elderly who are vaccinated is not the far off from all the other age categories, which drives me to consider whether that whole narrative about "Elderly refusing to be vaccinated because ..... " is really nothing more than a tactic to sow discord and gain more support for the anti-G camp, which in turn, will benefit those who refuse vaccination for reasons that have all been refuted by Science. The only thing they can cling on to, and hope to gain support from, is a common distrust of the G's initiatives.
[3:51 pm, 06/08/2021] +Joseph Ong: Don;t play into the wrong hands. Thats all i am saying
[3:53 pm, 06/08/2021] +Joseph Ong: This had been circulating on social meda... I am sure many would have received this as well ......
[3:54 pm, 06/08/2021] +Rama: The choice must not take precedent over the common good.
[3:54 pm, 06/08/2021] +Joseph Ong: I wrote a reply to it and asked the sender to send it back to whoever he/she received it from and so on...
[3:55 pm, 06/08/2021] +Joseph Ong: Soon that, I looked into the data on MOH website on the vaccination rates .. which showed that most age groups have hit similar levels...
[3:57 pm, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Whether using soft tactics, or hard tactics or combination of soft and hard tactics is ok - as long as achieve the eventual outcome.
I think we will get there and the government is equally resolve to get there - no one is safe until everyone is safe.
As we get closer to the 100% mark - all options should be on the table - to help everyone cross the finishing line.
[3:57 pm, 06/08/2021] +Alvin Lim: As long as it’s not mandatory, there will be a gap of 10% - 20% who likely won’t be vaccinated
[3:57 pm, 06/08/2021] +Thomas: This is tugging at the heart to elicit guilt for locking them up.
[3:58 pm, 06/08/2021] +Joseph Ong: Which makes me wonder if this "Elderly refuse vaccination" narrative is just being used to manipulate the masses.. to stir anger and distrust of the G...so that it gives justification to those who refuse vaccination
[3:58 pm, 06/08/2021] +Alvin Lim: It’s alway the 80-20 rule
[3:59 pm, 06/08/2021] +Alvin Lim: 20% not vaccinated will likely make up 80% of those in ICU
[4:00 pm, 06/08/2021] +Joseph Ong: exactly.. most who read this, will feel that the G is being uncaring ... if left unchecked, it might evolve into distrust of the G and its initiatives.
[4:01 pm, 06/08/2021] +Thomas: When they die, they blame the G for uncaring too .. no winning here
[4:01 pm, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
20% is 1 million people unvaccinated.
10% is 500,000 people unvaccinated.
The reinfection to the majority and crippling our hospital resources will be tremendous.
Without 100% vaccination, no one is safe
[4:21 pm, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
This is a century crisis, that everyone must do it together.
Leave no one behind.
[4:36 pm, 06/08/2021] +Vivian: Totally agree - 100% vaccination and still everyone should still do our part in masking and hand sanitizing. Prevention is always better than cure and vaccine is not a cure to the virus. Also, the virus would mutate as well. Do not think vaccine is the answer to Covid-19.
[4:38 pm, 06/08/2021] +Elena Woo: If based on this concern by WHO and the delta variant rampage, I think Singapore has to go for 100% vaccination (including babies and young children below 12 years old) in order to declare Covid as endemic, and in the meantime until that declaration comes, default wfh, social distancing, wearing of masks and toggling between Phase 2 and Phase 3 are inevitable.
[4:39 pm, 06/08/2021] +Vivian: I totally support the new norm.
[4:40 pm, 06/08/2021] +Vivian: I myself will still wear a mask even if gov declare there is no need to anymore.
[4:40 pm, 06/08/2021] +Vivian: same to my family and friends.. I will encourage them to do so too.
[4:41 pm, 06/08/2021] +Elena Woo: Singapore govt, should put this on the alert radar....
[4:41 pm, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Wearing a mask is a must even if we achieve 100% vaccination.
Mask is not needed until and unless global covid pandemic is over and WHO declare pandemic over.
[4:43 pm, 06/08/2021] +Rama: Agree
[4:44 pm, 06/08/2021] +Alvin Lim: Going to repeat this again with some spacing for easier reading
Endemic Plan (The End Game)
1) Masks MUST be mandatory as part of new normal, regardless of how many % been vaccinated. Get use to it.
2) Enforcement for non-compliance of wearing masks along public places, corridors etc MUST step up. There are many elderlies not wearing their masks around the housing estates and coffee shops.
3) Workplaces are becoming common place of flouting mask wearing rules. Eg. I see foreign workers in Changi airport offices walking about the corridor without masks. Need to have more checks and enforcement.
4) MMTF should consider being very careful about reopening air travel again. Eg. Locals returning back from overseas should still QO even if swab is negative and vaccinated, esp if they coming back from risky countries with Delta+ variants.
That’s all I have for now again my 2.14 cents
[4:50 pm, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Note :- vaccines trial for infant is break up into 2 parts:-
1. 5 to 11 years old.
2. 2 to 4 years old
Babies to 1 years old not included.
UK, Israel and US advise pregnant women to get vaccinated - so that babies will get the anti-bodies as well.
So there is still a gap for babies - month old to 1 years old not vaccinated.
[4:51 pm, 06/08/2021] +Rama: MMTF to comment on babies to one year old.
[4:56 pm, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Kid 5 to 11 years old will be ready by year end.
[5:27 pm, 06/08/2021] +Elena Woo: Still have 0 to 5 yrs old sia...
[5:31 pm, 06/08/2021] +Laurent: https://t.me/TheStraitsTimes/5684
Is this how Singapore deal with no discrimination
Why do we need to know is vaccinated or not
Coming from Europe this reminds me of the darkest days of the 1940s
[5:31 pm, 06/08/2021] +Laurent: This is no acceptable
[5:35 pm, 06/08/2021] +Joseph Ong: How would you like it if I went over to Europe (France is it?) and start telling your Govt that it is not acceptable that I can't identify who is vaccinated and who is not?
[5:35 pm, 06/08/2021] +Rama: No issue for me
[5:35 pm, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
2 to 4 years old on another trial.
Babies to 1 year old - no announced trial.
US, UK and Israel advise pregnant mother to vaccinate so that babies and 1 year old are protected.
Only then all the gaps will be filled - achieving 100% vaccination.
[5:36 pm, 06/08/2021] +Joseph Ong: Learn to understand what the purpose is
[5:36 pm, 06/08/2021] +Rama: Yes
[5:36 pm, 06/08/2021] +Laurent: You should remember how the jews were identified in the 1940s
[5:36 pm, 06/08/2021] +Joseph Ong: You should realise we are not Hitler and this is not Germany
[5:36 pm, 06/08/2021] +Joseph Ong: by now
[5:36 pm, 06/08/2021] +Elena Woo: Not really... those who give birth last year and H1 of 2021 - their babies are below 2 years old...
[5:37 pm, 06/08/2021] +Rama: I remember well but those were entirely different circumstances
[5:37 pm, 06/08/2021] +Laurent: Then y do not vaccinated need to wear a symbol
[5:37 pm, 06/08/2021] +Laurent: We have apps
[5:37 pm, 06/08/2021] +Laurent: This is DISCREMINATION
[5:37 pm, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Then suay. Got to wait 1 year to vaccinate.
[5:38 pm, 06/08/2021] +Laurent: i m vaccinated if this measure is extended to the all population i will wear the symbol
[5:38 pm, 06/08/2021] +Rama: Not for me unless someone has a better way of managing the pandemic
[5:38 pm, 06/08/2021] +Elena Woo: Some more not all pregnant mothers are recommended for vac as some have complicated preg...
[5:38 pm, 06/08/2021] +Rama: Yes
[5:38 pm, 06/08/2021] +Joseph Ong: We can ... but the majority are alreadyvaccinated .... so in terms of logistics and supplies, it is easier to have those who are temporarily unvaccinated where an identifier. Once vaccinated, it will no longer be required.
How is it I need to tell you that?
[5:39 pm, 06/08/2021] +Laurent: Where are the principals of the Singapore pledge
[5:39 pm, 06/08/2021] +Rama: It's still here but situation warrant tweaking
[5:39 pm, 06/08/2021] +Joseph Ong: You think nothing of wearing it permanently....but have a problem with a temporary identifier? Please. ....
[5:39 pm, 06/08/2021] +Laurent: I will wear the symbol even i m vaccinated
[5:40 pm, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
There will be some medically ineligible people.
This one medical experts got to advise.
[5:40 pm, 06/08/2021] +Rama: Good
[5:40 pm, 06/08/2021] +Laurent: So can discrimate people because of COVID
[5:41 pm, 06/08/2021] +Laurent: For COVID everything is allowed
[5:41 pm, 06/08/2021] +Rama: Look at the bigger picture to address the situation
[5:41 pm, 06/08/2021] +Laurent: I m singing Majulah singapura loud and clear but this is no the Singapore of the founding father
[5:41 pm, 06/08/2021] +Joseph Ong: I would like to see you propose that in Europe .... here, our Govt decided it makes more sense for those who have yet to be vaccinated - but will be shortly - to wear 1 in the interim
[5:41 pm, 06/08/2021] +Joseph Ong: and I think most of us have no issues with that
[5:42 pm, 06/08/2021] +Rama: Not necessarily
[5:42 pm, 06/08/2021] +Laurent: No need to discuss more
[5:42 pm, 06/08/2021] +Rama: OK
[5:42 pm, 06/08/2021] +Joseph Ong: Singing the Majullah Singapura? A 3 year old can do that ... does not mean he/she understands/appreciates the meaning
[5:43 pm, 06/08/2021] +Laurent: I m more singaporean than you think
I m a new citizen and gave 2 sons to the country
[5:43 pm, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/europe-covid-19-vaccine-passes-protests-italy-france-15353864 EU implement Green Pass or Health Pass for vaccinated.
[5:43 pm, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
https://sg.yahoo.com/news/covid-vaccine-passport-change-nhs-103820443.html
UK introduce vaccine passport - to get services.
Vaccinated will have privileges.
Unvaccinated will not enjoy the privileges - until and unless they got their jabs.
UK government use a combination of coaxing and cajoling.
[5:44 pm, 06/08/2021] +Joseph Ong: If a Singapore-born Singaporean says the same thing you did. I will tell him/her the same. Its got nothing to do with new citizen or not
[5:45 pm, 06/08/2021] +Joseph Ong: Its got to do with your thought process.... this whole "woke" culture ... too many wearing it like its a fashion statement
[5:46 pm, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
In post pandemic world, differentiated treatment for vaccinated will be the norm.
[5:50 pm, 06/08/2021] +Laurent: We dont need 100% vaccination as we dont need 0 cases
[5:50 pm, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Vaccine passports will be introduced for all overseas travellers worldwide.
If people want privilege, get vaccinated.
[5:51 pm, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Oh even mean people die?
[5:51 pm, 06/08/2021] +Laurent: is it a privilege to go to a restaurant?
[5:51 pm, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Yes
[5:52 pm, 06/08/2021] +Laurent: so if not vaccinated can die alone at home
[5:52 pm, 06/08/2021] +Laurent: this is nice way of thinking
[5:53 pm, 06/08/2021] +Laurent: nobody ever imposed 100% vaccination for the flu
[5:53 pm, 06/08/2021] +Laurent: https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/12-13-vaccinated-countries-world-now-listed-cdc-travel-risk/
[5:54 pm, 06/08/2021] +Laurent: Not sure vaccine will be useful against the new variants
[5:55 pm, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Vaccinated people get the economy and business going.
They are part of the solution not the problem.
Unvaccinated people are part of the problem not the solution. So unvaccinated people don't deserve the privilege.
[5:56 pm, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Unvaccinated people impose tremendous cost to the economy and the nation - and they don't deserve further benefits or privileges.
[5:56 pm, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Then get vaccinated!
[5:57 pm, 06/08/2021] +Laurent: The failure of the government to controle underground KTV did
[5:57 pm, 06/08/2021] +Joseph Ong: Quit making straw man arguments
[5:58 pm, 06/08/2021] +Caleb: actually is the market also right? so NEA need to answer
[5:58 pm, 06/08/2021] +Joseph Ong: Do you also have a problem with the Safe Distancing Ambassadors wearing bright red uniform? Or how about our Police officers? Or students?
[6:00 pm, 06/08/2021] +Joseph Ong: There is a difference between discrimination, which is bad and not welcome, versus differentiating for the purpose of easier identification.
[6:00 pm, 06/08/2021] +Joseph Ong: There is a reason why you can tell a snake is poisonous or not just by looking at its markings
[6:01 pm, 06/08/2021] +Joseph Ong: Maybe you should ask God (or whatever creator you believe in) to do something about that too
[6:03 pm, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Who hog the hospital resources and use taxpayers money to subsidize their treatment in hospitals - mostly the unvaccinated.
So unvaccinated is part of the problem and not the solution - and they don't deserve privilege or benefits - because they are using up a big share of public goods for not Vaccinating themselves.
[6:06 pm, 06/08/2021] +Rama: You are new, I was born here 61 years ago
[6:07 pm, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Covid is not flu.
Covid damage multiple organs like lungs, heart and brain and trigger blood clots in the long term.
So don't equate flu with covid.
[6:18 pm, 06/08/2021] +Smiley face: Updates : UK Immigration Policy
Three basic classifications of Country: Green, Amble and Red
Singapore belongs to the GREEN Country. The advantages are NO QUARANTINE. Negative swab test result prior entering and at day 2 of arrival, a SWAB test is required. UK welcomes Singaporeans who are vaccinated and non vaccinated.
Watch "COVID-19: England scraps quarantine for fully vaccinated travellers from US, EU" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/FmwrxdspTVs
[6:23 pm, 06/08/2021] +Joseph Ong: π
[6:27 pm, 06/08/2021] +Joseph Ong: i don’t have a problem with that too. Either way 1 group will be identified.
So… with your proposal, the ONLY difference is that the unvaccinated will be identified simply by the absence of an “identifier”.
So, to you, that is not discrimination? π€·♂️π
[6:27 pm, 06/08/2021] +Joseph Ong: “Love” how your mind works π
[6:27 pm, 06/08/2021] +Rama: Touche
[6:30 pm, 06/08/2021] +Joseph Ong: UK also voted for Brexit π
[6:34 pm, 06/08/2021] +Joseph Ong: To be fair, not all who are unvaccinated are that way by choice.
We take care of everyone, including those who may be wrong to choose to be unvaccinated.
Hopefully, they will eventually understand what it means to be considerate to others as well through our actions/decisions.
[6:35 pm, 06/08/2021] +REACH: 1,200 homebound seniors in S'pore jabbed; demand for home vaccination teams remains high
SINGAPORE - Some 1,200 homebound seniors have received Covid-19 vaccination as Singapore ramps up efforts to inoculate its seniors.
More: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/some-1200-homebound-seniors-in-spore-receive-covid-19-vaccine-but-waiting-time-of-8
[6:39 pm, 06/08/2021] +Rama: Exceptions are noted and taken into consideration once a medical assessment has been made.
[6:41 pm, 06/08/2021] +REACH: Dining-in to resume for fully vaccinated people in groups of 5 from Aug 10
SINGAPORE: Dining-in at F&B outlets will resume from Aug 10, only for fully vaccinated people in up to groups of five as Singapore announced a two-step easing of COVID-19 measures.
More: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/dining-vaccinated-people-covid-19-aug-10-hawkers-2096546
[6:42 pm, 06/08/2021] +Alvin Lim: Wow didn’t expect the dine-in to resume so early
[6:46 pm, 06/08/2021] +CQ: Back to the complex rules of 5 if vaxxed, 2 if unvaxxed except children though....
[6:47 pm, 06/08/2021] +REACH: 93 new locally transmitted COVID-19 cases in Singapore; including 29 unlinked
More
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/covid-19-new-cases-aug-6-moh-2095661
Fully vaccinated travellers from 8 countries to be allowed to serve stay-home notice at their residence
More: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/covid-19-differentiated-border-measures-vaccinated-travellers-2096396
Those who opt for Sinovac, other vaccines under WHO emergency list to be considered fully vaccinated
More:
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/sinovac-vaccine-covid19-sinopharm-astrazeneca-fully-vaccinated-2096576
Some employees to undergo 'vaccinate or regular test' regime for COVID-19 from Oct 1
More:
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/employees-vaccinated-test-regularly-covid-19-2096431
[6:48 pm, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Good differentiated treatment for vaccinated.
[6:49 pm, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Good fully vaccinated get can serve shn at home.
[6:49 pm, 06/08/2021] +REACH: Dear Contributors,
We want to HEAR MORE from you!
We will be extending the chat to 10pm today.
Meganπ
[6:50 pm, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Then why people who want to get privilege don't want to vaccinate?
[6:51 pm, 06/08/2021] +Rama: From Oct 1, unvaccinated workers from F&B, other higher-risk sectors must take Covid-19 rapid tests twice weekly
[6:51 pm, 06/08/2021] +Rama: Can this be verified?
[6:53 pm, 06/08/2021] +Nicolette Tan: Workers in healthcare, F&B, public sector must be vaccinated or do Covid-19 self-test from Oct 1
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/workers-in-healthcare-fb-public-sector-must-be-vaccinated-or-do-covid-19-self-test-from
[6:53 pm, 06/08/2021] +Rama: Thanks
[7:05 pm, 06/08/2021] +Alvin Lim: I don’t think it’s a good idea to let up to 50% back to office
[7:06 pm, 06/08/2021] +Alvin Lim: Already many are flouting mask wearing rules
[7:06 pm, 06/08/2021] +Alvin Lim: The workplace will be the next ktv cluster
[7:06 pm, 06/08/2021] +Caleb: Enjoy while it lasts. Before the next strain comes
[7:10 pm, 06/08/2021] +Suma pamu: Too early ...
Taking risk again
[7:10 pm, 06/08/2021] +Shane: 80% vaccinated so not bad to restart
[7:10 pm, 06/08/2021] +Alvin Lim: This again
[7:11 pm, 06/08/2021] +Ben: Even 100% vaccination will see cases. We need 100% to reduce variants, protect the young and elderly.
[7:11 pm, 06/08/2021] +Alvin Lim: It’s ok to restart provided there’s sufficient enforcement
[7:12 pm, 06/08/2021] +Ben: Agreed.
[7:12 pm, 06/08/2021] +Ben: If people want to choose that, it's sad. Everyone over 12 can get vaccinated. We need to protect the young. People who spread the virus and don't try to prevent that should stay home.
[7:13 pm, 06/08/2021] +Ben: But they did for smallpox and other deadly viruses.
[7:13 pm, 06/08/2021] +Ben: Better than not trying.
[7:15 pm, 06/08/2021] +Ben: π
[7:15 pm, 06/08/2021] +Ben: Exactly
[7:28 pm, 06/08/2021] +Rama: Yes
[7:28 pm, 06/08/2021] +Rama: Never an easy task to determine
[7:30 pm, 06/08/2021] +Elena Woo: Yes agree...
[7:30 pm, 06/08/2021] +Elena Woo: Delta variant can rampage even further in public transport.
[7:30 pm, 06/08/2021] +Caleb: +1
[7:31 pm, 06/08/2021] +Elena Woo: With default wfh, currently quite a number of employers alr triggered a lot of staff bk to work full time.
[7:33 pm, 06/08/2021] +Rama: Agree
[7:34 pm, 06/08/2021] +Caleb: And then ICU Will be full then go back 2HA
[7:34 pm, 06/08/2021] +Ah Heng: Alot of offices culture have unmask practise aka u in office can mask off
[7:34 pm, 06/08/2021] +Rama: Followed possibly by CB!?
[7:36 pm, 06/08/2021] +Rama: Travellers from Australia, Canada, South Korea & others can serve SHN at home from Aug. 21
https://sg.news/?p=599984
[7:37 pm, 06/08/2021] +Rama: Individuals taking Sinovac & AstraZeneca to be considered ‘fully vaccinated’ for S’pore’s differentiated measures
https://sg.news/?p=599976
[7:41 pm, 06/08/2021] +Caleb: I guess these different brands of jabs will have a expiry date. Before booster are needed
[7:42 pm, 06/08/2021] +Rama: Probably
[7:42 pm, 06/08/2021] +Caleb: SNIOVAC can only last about 6 months as some initial reported
[7:42 pm, 06/08/2021] +Caleb: Gov have to accept all the different brands. To open borders for all to fly in
[7:42 pm, 06/08/2021] +Rama: That's the worry
[7:43 pm, 06/08/2021] +Caleb: Hope gov better tell citizens beforehand. If not those took SNIOVAC angry
[7:43 pm, 06/08/2021] +Elena Woo: If icu is full go back cb liao
[7:48 pm, 06/08/2021] +Smiley face: Well Done, Singapore!!! ✅
Dear......,
Hope this email finds you well!
My question for tomorrow's discussion is:
Can the vaccine diplomacy a way forward in engaging with China? Perhaps this can be a "new entry" into fostering relations across countries and in this case for Asean?
What are the geopolitics and inter-country repercussions and unintended consequences?
Thank you very much.
Regards
[7:51 pm, 06/08/2021] +Smiley face: https://youtu.be/AxGEaLhqwno
[8:02 pm, 06/08/2021] +Smiley face: Dear contributor,
Please be reminded to keep to the topic that is being discussed. We have had good feedback from this group, and we hope that we can keep the discussion robust and active!
Megan
[8:43 pm, 06/08/2021] +Peter T Ng: 1. We the citizens of Singapore (including SPR, LTSV)
[8:43 pm, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Our Singapore Pledge (to defeat the Covid Pandemic).
1. We the citizens of Singapore.
2. Pledge ourselves as One United People (As we muster our resolve to vaccinate as One United People ).
3. Regardless of Race, Language or Religion (Vaccination is given free of charge without discrimination - regardless of race, language or religion )
4. To build a democratic society (With majority opting to vaccinate in a democratic society).
5. Based on justice and equality (Vaccination given to everyone equally without bias - with equality and justice).
6. So as to achieve happiness, prosperity and progress for our nation. (As everyone is vaccinated - so that everyone is protected, safeguarding everyone's life, so that Economy can open, business can open, people got jobs, people got income and money and prosper, and people can come out to interact socially, play, work and study ---- that make everyone happy ).
I am proud that our vaccination progress, effort and resolve to achieve high vaccination rate to achieve herd immunity, if possible 100% vaccination.
---- Truly have aspire, make effort to fulfil our Singapore Pledge !!!
[8:45 pm, 06/08/2021] ☸️ Danny εΏ:
Mr LKY and our founders will be very proud of us if we achieve 100% vaccination - by truly living up to our Singapore Pledge.
[8:45 pm, 06/08/2021] +Alvin Lim: https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/work-pass-holders-dependants-from-higher-risk-places-allowed-to-enter-spore-from
Good game
[8:46 pm, 06/08/2021] +Alvin Lim: There are some concerns from my friends on this ☝π»
[8:47 pm, 06/08/2021] +CQ: I'm also concerned. How to verify that the vaccination certificates are genuine? Even pre-departure covid test certs could be faked.
[8:47 pm, 06/08/2021] +Caleb: blood test upon arrival?
[8:51 pm, 06/08/2021] +CQ: By then a bit late right? They'd have landed on our soil...
[8:56 pm, 06/08/2021] +jimmy chew: most probable they going to use blockchain tech to ensure compliance
[8:58 pm, 06/08/2021] +Jospeh Ong: Most probably we get another outbreak and the G again say that it’s unforeseen/no way to anticipate it happening and ask us to discuss in the forum here what better measures to implement next time π€¦♂️
[8:59 pm, 06/08/2021] +Caleb: and then can push for booster shots
[9:02 pm, 06/08/2021] +Alvin Lim: Yes they’re concern with fake certs
[9:03 pm, 06/08/2021] +Smiley face: "... Stability and advancement must always be in balance.”
-- Li Ka-shing
[9:03 pm, 06/08/2021] +Caleb: when corridor with taiwan & HK open?
[9:03 pm, 06/08/2021] +Caleb: @+65 6336 7926
[9:04 pm, 06/08/2021] +Joseph Ong: our F&B , SMEs will then suffer .. more fiscal support will be needed .. our kids will be affected again .. haven’t we seen this happen enough times??
If want to allow travelers in, then f@#king make them serve QO in dedicated facilities!!!
[9:05 pm, 06/08/2021] +Joseph Ong: i don’t care where they are coming in from. Same treatment even for citizens
[9:05 pm, 06/08/2021] +Joseph Ong: What is wrong with the G????
[9:06 pm, 06/08/2021] +jimmy chew: I think we see it but Covid does not
[9:06 pm, 06/08/2021] +jimmy chew: π€£π€£π€£
[9:07 pm, 06/08/2021] +Nicolette Tan: that’s what moving to endemic means - if we’re all vaccinated it will be mild, and we will learn to live with the disease
[9:07 pm, 06/08/2021] +Nicolette Tan: it doesnt mean 0 tolerance
[9:08 pm, 06/08/2021] +Joseph Ong: i understand that … but our kids under 12 are ALL not vaccinated
[9:09 pm, 06/08/2021] +Joseph Ong: KTV and JFP outbreak already affecting schools … have not sorted that out yet and already horny for fresh travelers?
[9:09 pm, 06/08/2021] +Caleb: π€£
[9:10 pm, 06/08/2021] +Caleb: so we can resume our airport
[9:10 pm, 06/08/2021] +Caleb: to be No. 1
[9:12 pm, 06/08/2021] +Joseph Ong: As can be seen by our new citizen earlier, many of them place more importance on privacy and “indiscriminate non-discrimination” than vaccinations .. still haven’t learnt lesson yet π€¦♂️
[9:15 pm, 06/08/2021] +Caleb: and coffeeshop can't implement safeentry yet
[9:16 pm, 06/08/2021] +Caleb: news said ppl are going coffeeshop instead of hawkers because hawkers need SE.
[9:16 pm, 06/08/2021] +Caleb: π€
[9:25 pm, 06/08/2021] +Caleb: A heads up ahead https://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/05/middleeast/israel-boosters-restrictions-covid-spike-intl/index.html
[9:37 pm, 06/08/2021] +REACH: Vaccinated or not: What you can do when COVID-19 measures ease from Aug 10
SINGAPORE: As more people get their COVID-19 jabs, Singapore is taking its next steps towards resuming more business and social activities – with greater easing of restrictions for people who are fully vaccinated.
More: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/covid-19-vaccinated-unvaccinated-dining-restrictions-aug-10-2097206
[9:40 pm, 06/08/2021] +Suma pamu: Finally some update about Children
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/8-covid-19-cases-in-critical-condition-6-of-whom-are-unvaccinated-or-partially?utm_campaign=stfb&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook
[9:42 pm, 06/08/2021] +Anne: Interesting. So 2 fully vaccinated patients are in critical condition in ICU.
[9:47 pm, 06/08/2021] +Smiley face: An Old saying "what goes around comes around!" - the germ that turns the world inside out!
Attention:
From now till end Q1 of 2022 - Caustiously Optimistic
Main:
Fact, new variant has emerged in UK days ago. This new variant, hopefully, will be milder, less lethal than the D strain and no concern!
The coming months will turn into winter for the N hemisphere couple with the now fully open Europe and the USA. There is a possibility of a big storm ahead, highly evolving and full of uncertainties! The clock is ticking, now, the world is watching how China (original epicenter of covid - Wuhan) and the rest of its big cities evolve, this case the D strain.
Will the booster japs be able to surpress the D or the next variant of concern will emerge from the S Hemisphere countries like Peru, Brazil or Chile?
"This is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But, perhaps, the end of the beginning."
-- Winston Churchill
[9:47 pm, 06/08/2021] +Caleb: Normal. As majority have been vax...
[9:48 pm, 06/08/2021] +Anne: I was under the impression that the fully vaccinated will NEVER land in hospital…
[9:50 pm, 06/08/2021] +REACH: Dear Contributors,
⏰ We will be closing the chat in 10 minutes ⏰
Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Best,
Megan
[9:53 pm, 06/08/2021] +Caleb: https://youtu.be/JDNYzBbecL0
[9:56 pm, 06/08/2021] +Joseph Ong: Really π³… until this statement you just made, I was under the impression that you thought vaccinations were the cause of hospitalisations and death.
[9:58 pm, 06/08/2021] +Joseph Ong: I am sure I can retrieve your past posts to jog your memory if needed
[9:59 pm, 06/08/2021] +Smiley face: MOH | News Highlights
https://www.moh.gov.sg/news-highlights/details/update-on-local-covid-19-situation-(5-Aug-2021)
Extract:
60-69 age group:
27 vaccinated people were in serious condition as of Thursday, in addition to 18 non-vaccinated individuals and one person partially vaccinated. Looking at the numbers per 100,000 people, there are 26.8 patients who were not vaccinated, 9.5 who were partially vaccinated and only 4.1 who were vaccinated.
70-79 age group:
There were 57 fully vaccinated serious patients, three partially vaccinated, and 16 not vaccinated. This translates into 73.4 unvaccinated serious patients per 100,000 people, 52.2 partially vaccinated and 12.3 vaccinated.
80-89 age group:
There were 52 serious patients who were vaccinated, one partially vaccinated, and 12 not vaccinated. Considering data per 100,000 people, there are 105 unvaccinated serious patients, 25.7 partially vaccinated serious patients, and 25 vaccinated serious patients.
Age 90 and above:
There were 18 people fully vaccinated, two partially vaccinated and two non-vaccinated.
Summary:
Basing on the numbers per 100,000
(A) 60.3 unvaccinated serious patients per 100,000
(B) 115.1 partially vaccinated serious patients
(C) 38.8 fully vaccinated serious patients.
[10:00 pm, 06/08/2021] +REACH: Dear Contributors,
We will be closing the chat for today.
Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Goodnight!
Megan π
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