Wednesday, February 12, 2025

REACH (Telegram) 57 - What are your thoughts about Minister Chan's vision and plans for Singapore's education system?

(SK)

12 Feb 2025 (10am - 7pm)


REACH (Telegram)

REACH Singapore, [12/2/2025 9:54 AM]

Dear contributors,

Welcome back! 😊

⏰ We will be opening the chat from 10am to 7pm today. ⏰

House Rules (short version of our Terms of Use) to keep in mind:

1. Be kind and respectful. We all want to be in a safe space to share our views. 

2. Any and all threatening, abusive, vulgar or racially, religiously and ethnically objectionable content is prohibited. 

3. Consider the quiet ones among us and give them a chance to comment. 

4. No need to repeat your comment or in differnet forms (including caps) - we heard you loud and clear the first time. 

5. Let's protect each other's privacy and keep contact details in this group what it should always be - confidential. 

Full set of Terms of Use: https://www.reach.gov.sg/Participate/reach-telegram-group/REACH-Telegram-Group-Chat-Terms-of-Use/

We will strive to uphold these rules to ensure this is a safe space for all. 

Please be assured that the points made by participants during the chat are aggregated and shared with relevant agencies. 

The topic will be posted shortly. 

Thank you. 

Megan 😊

REACH Singapore, [12/2/2025 10:00 AM]

📢 Topic 📢

At the MOE X NIE X IPS Lecture on 11 Feb (Tuesday), Minister Chan said that lasting educational reforms require not only structural changes but also shifts in societal mindsets and culture.

💬 What are your thoughts about Minister Chan's vision and plans for Singapore's education system?

He was delivering an address to about 500 graduating student-teachers from NIE and guests at an event jointly hosted by MOE, IPS, and NIE, as part of celebrations marking SG60 and MOE's 70th anniversary.

📌 Societal attitudes need to evolve

Minister Chan stressed that structural reforms alone—such as changes in the PSLE scoring system or removal of mid-year exams—will not ease academic pressure or broaden definitions of success unless societal attitudes evolve as well.

“Timing is everything. We must have the shrewd instincts to know when to lead the way with conviction and the wisdom to know when to pace ourselves with society’s shifts,” he said, citing how our pioneer leaders introduced academic streaming despite initial resistance due to their long-term benefits but took a gradual approach towards bilingualism instead.

Minister Chan said that full subject-based banding was implemented recently as conditions were ready and schools had the resources and capability to implement it. The change is meant to address stigma and meet evolving aspirations.

📌 Personalising education

“We will continue to support greater customisation of education to meet diverse abilities, needs, interests and aspirations,” he said.

He outlined how there are plans to tap into artificial intelligence and data to meet the unique needs of each individual student and to create, in effect, a class size of one.

📌 Lifelong learning in an increasingly complex world

Minister Chan said global trends such as the spread of social media, rapid technological developments and rising protectionism pose new challenges.

"The second shift is pushing ahead with lifelong learning efforts and encouraging people to pick up new and relevant skills after leaving school", adding that the pedagogy of adult education needs to be better understood.

📌 Upholding an open and compassionate meritocracy

Singapore must maintain its pursuit for excellence while upholding an "open, continuous and compassionate meritocracy", Minister Chan said.

He noted that in addition to efforts to help each individual realise their fullest potential, education policies need to deliberately foster inclusion and mixing.

The education sector also needs to stay united, said Minister Chan, rejecting the notion that “good teachers only go to good schools”.

“Our attitude and behaviour towards educators will determine the quality of people who will join us in educating the next generation, which will, in turn, determine the quality of our education system and the quality of our people.”

🔗 [ST] https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/mindsets-must-shift-for-changes-in-education-to-have-lasting-impact-chan-chun-sing

🔗 [Full Speech] https://www.moe.gov.sg/news/speeches/20250211-speech-by-minister-chan-chun-sing-at-the-moe-x-nie-x-ips-lecture-from-foundations-to-frontiers-our-education-journey

----


REACH Singapore, [12/2/2025 10:58 AM]

Dear Contributors,

We want to HEAR MORE from you!

💬 What are your thoughts about Minister Chan's vision and plans for Singapore's education system?

We have had good feedback from this group, and we hope that we can keep the discussion robust and active! 

Thank you!

Megan 😊

REACH Singapore, [12/2/2025 11:02 AM]

[ Poll : 1. I agree that to ensure equitable opportunities for students, we should never have the case where “good teachers only go to good schools”. ]

- Agree

- Disagree

- Neutral

REACH Singapore, [12/2/2025 11:02 AM]

[ Poll : 2. ⁠I agree that society’s respect for educators determines the quality of our educators, and in turn the quality of our education system. ]

- Agree

- Disagree

- Neutral

REACH Singapore, [12/2/2025 11:02 AM]

[ Poll : 3. ⁠I agree that Minister Chan’s vision and plans (e.g. broader notion of success, leveraging technology for education) will result in better outcomes for students. ]

- Agree

- Disagree

- Neutral


LCL (Danny 心), [12/2/2025 11:59 AM]

*Personalising education*

1. I find this initiative particularly useful as business and work requirements increasingly become very complex. 

2. Innovation and creativity that help to create values and new ideas increasingly become important in the workplace to enhance the organisation competitiveness.

3. Hence personalisation in the education system will make each individual unique.

4. And in the context of solving work problems or proposing solutions, new breakthrough will materialise.

5. This is especially felt in University education.

6. Personalising education will also help to build creative thinking in individuals by seeing issues and problems from many angles and perspectives.

This will help to plug loopholes and blind spots in formulating solutions to problems and issues.


Adam, [12/2/2025 12:10 PM]

Humans are good at looking at patterns. What gets you far? What gets you a good job. 

Do we see meritocracy reflected in when we enter the workforce? Does some schools give more opportunities than others?

What is the purpose if sg education? One is to prepare for the workforce, but what is being taught might not be needed on the job. We can see loads of useless skillsfuture where the certs hold no value.

Or is it to teach about morals like cleaning trays or respecting diverse cultures. But with a significant portion of our population not having an local sg education, don't we need to expand the scope?

We need to reevaluate the system with the end goal in mind. What is the purpose of what we are doing.

If we educate, do we have jobs available?

If we need jobs like healthcare, shouldn't we make more slots?

If an A grade student in singapore is hard to distinguish from an A grade overseas, why are we subjecting our students to difficult assessments?

Ginie/Komal ZENDORA J, [12/2/2025 12:29 PM]

Whatever we learn in school need to understand. Schools should have internships. Or conduct real life scenarios for students to try out whatever they are learning.  3 days books study, 2 days real life experience


LCL (Danny 心), [12/2/2025 12:29 PM]

1. AI will increasingly become prevalent and pervasive and will be a potent tech disruptors to jobs in many industry sectors.


2. The current era of Generative AI trained in known datasets will increasingly be overtaken by Agentic AI or AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) - that can "think" and resolve problems on its own without pre trained datasets.


3. Hence our workforce got to evolve to be able to:-

a. Work alongside AI.

b. Exploit AI as tools or human assistant to improve workers productivity and not replaced by AI.

c. Navigate ourselves to be either of these categories:-

i. AI users

ii. AI developers or

iii. AI creators.


4. If our workforce are able to do so by enabling ourselves throughout our education system - then our workforce will not be displace by AI - but instead become a formidable workforce that will attract high values investment into our shores.


5. Our competitors will have a hard time catching up with us - as our knowledge driven economy power by AI will constantly create innovative high value products and services almost infinitely that no competitors able to copy or imitate.


Ginie/Komal ZENDORA J, [12/2/2025 12:32 PM]

Learn AI & security . Should go hand in hand.

Ginie/Komal ZENDORA J, [12/2/2025 12:33 PM]

We should stop face recognition when login in. Now from anyone's fb n insta can take pic create ai image use to login

Ginie/Komal ZENDORA J, [12/2/2025 12:34 PM]

Or scan their pic n get all info on them?


LCL (Danny 心), [12/2/2025 12:46 PM]

These are deepfake generation of video from image using multi modal AI technology.

Eg. Bytedance can create Einstein video giving speech.

But they are still not able to create biometric features with unique features, DNA from just a few pictures or videos.


LCL (Danny 心), [12/2/2025 12:49 PM]

If authentication login are using video conferencing as identification of a user - then such authentication will be dangerous and not foolproof.

But Biometric features with unique features, DNA, palm vein, fingerprint, facial identity features, blood, pulse and other bio data cannot be "created" by deepfakes through videos, pictures or images uploaded into the social media. Unless such Biometric data are stolen from the biometric database.

But to be on the safe side, refrain from uploading our personal photos and videos into social media - because it still can be social engineered.


LCL (Danny 心), [12/2/2025 1:06 PM]

*Lifelong learning in increasingly complex world*

1. Indeed with the advent of more and more advanced AI, geopolitical tussling, protectionism, ever evolving threat on trade and disruption of the global supply chain - lifelong learning to pre-empt and catch up with development that can threaten our stable jobs become critical.


2. For eg. US AI Big Tech unmatch advantage in Generative AI close proprietary architecture using LLM (Large Language model) requiring very powerful GPU that require massive electricity and water hosted in land hungry data centres that are very expensive - is suddenly overtaken by China DeepSeek knowledge distillation using open source that trim neural network (liken small language model) requiring less expensive and less powerful GPU and chips, less electricity, water and data centres to run.


3. China Bytedance suddenly surge in multi modal AI technology (text, image, video, audio) overtaking GAI (Generative Artificial Intelligence) that are text based.


4. US AI is suddenly breathless trying to recoup loss ground through AGI (Artificial General Intelligence) and Agentic AI.


LCL (Danny 心), [12/2/2025 1:10 PM]

5. Hence adult education and lifelong learning need to understand the global trend how AI evolved, what tech and business are disrupted and what new tech and business are evolving - so that our lifelong adult education will have to evolve to meet the needs of our business and skillsets and reskill and upskill our workers and make our workers relevant and safeguard their jobs.


Ginie/Komal ZENDORA J, [12/2/2025 1:10 PM]

The whole world will have to close their social media accounts. Everyone have their pics n videos in


LCL (Danny 心), [12/2/2025 1:12 PM]

Hahaha...

Well that's a bit too kiasu.

But depends on individuals risk appetite.

For myself, I don't put my pictures and videos open to public.

But distribution of our pictures or videos to extended families and close friends in private encrypted channel should be ok.


Ginie/Komal ZENDORA J, [12/2/2025 1:15 PM]

Fingerprint has always been ok. Why make it complicated. It's like nothing better to do let's create something else(face recognition) without thinking of the consequences. Let's make everyone life difficult.  Create more problems.  Then waste more time in finding solution for the problem we have created. The cycle goes on. When something doesn't work. Stop that. Find proper solution, then bring it back

Jun Ming, [12/2/2025 1:17 PM]

The thing is finger print sometimes fail. Think about booking in and out of army camp

Ginie/Komal ZENDORA J, [12/2/2025 1:18 PM]

With this new ai glasses people can scan yr face n know everything about u. It's really silly. The things they r allowed to come out with in the name of technology n future😌

Ginie/Komal ZENDORA J, [12/2/2025 1:18 PM]

Fix the scanner

Khai Mun L., [12/2/2025 1:19 PM]

Would 'personalization of learning' lead to laziness in comfort zone or accidental discrimination?

Students don't learn something outside of their specialization, but nowadays alot of things are linked to another. IoT devices to healthcare etc.

An extreme example, male students only learn men health issues because it is relevant to them. Ignore about female health e.g. periods, pregnancy, cervix cancer etc


LCL (Danny 心), [12/2/2025 1:21 PM]

*Attitude towards our educators*

1. Just like our attitude towards anyone, our families members, to friends, to strangers, to classmates, to colleagues, to public institutions, to private organisations - our interactions should be one that is of mutual respect.

2. We must not be rude, codescending, or self righteous.

3. We must be able to emphatise - knowing and safeguarding our own rights but also stand in the shoes of the other parties to understand their perspective, their pain points - and come out with mutually beneficial solutions - without unnecessarily triggering frictions with our educators who are trying their best to do their jobs.


Khai Mun L., [12/2/2025 1:22 PM]

It'll lead to same outcome eventually. Fingerprint went away because most devices do not built-in fingerprint scanners and it is bulky.

Then that data needs to be kept somewhere, which makes it liable to be hacked. Also sharing of fingerprint across countries, not easy to do so


LCL (Danny 心), [12/2/2025 1:23 PM]

Biometric features for authentication cannot be of single source, because it will be the single point of failure.

Multi-factor authentication from a few sources will be more secured and is the best practice from security point of view.


Ginie/Komal ZENDORA J, [12/2/2025 1:27 PM]

Like u scan face, same way do the finger prints. No one can get yr fingerprint unless they cut yr finger

Steven Ong, [12/2/2025 1:28 PM]

IMO, market forces will continue to shift the mindset. To get 'good' jobs after graduation, companies may required one to have 'good' CV (ie papers) in order to secure an interview, based on automated selection programs. It's natural for employers to want to get the best for the 'price' they are paying. To have 'good' papers, one need to get 'good' grades. To have 'good' grades in 'good' schools, the expectations are already set for the children at the starting point. Thus, until everyone don't think having a 'good' job is necessary for a 'good' life, the competition is always there.. competition started long before the child is born and will continue till death.

Ginie/Komal ZENDORA J, [12/2/2025 1:28 PM]

Finger scan


LCL (Danny 心), [12/2/2025 1:28 PM]

Thinking aloud, if fingerprint data is stored in the fingerprint database.

Facial features stored in facial features database.

Palm print and fingerprint stored in print database.

Voice audio stored in audio database.

Etc.

Then if APT hackers managed to hack into fingerprint database, it will not have access to all other bio data.

Then when authentication sign-in required to say for example a banking system using multi factor authentication, having fingerprint is not good enough because facial recognition fails.


LCL (Danny 心), [12/2/2025 1:34 PM]

I think personalisation of education curriculum should be make up of the following components to be foolproof:-

1. Doctors need to take up compulsory subjects eg. Cannot just choose male anatomy and no female anatomy.

2. Choose specialisation subjects eg. Heart specialist or brain neuro specialist.

3. Choose subjects outside of medical curriculum eg. AI, computer science, finance.

4. General subjects eg. Geopolitical development and global trend, national development, economic.


LCL (Danny 心), [12/2/2025 1:37 PM]

Then as an individual doctor, I am unique from another doctor because of my unique interest and passion - I can make use of AI, knowledge of global development in medicine evolution from global trend to propose new ideas and solutions to the hospital that I am attached to - outside of the medical training that I have received.


xXx.SCAR.xXx, [12/2/2025 1:38 PM]

I will give MC to myself

Jun Ming, [12/2/2025 1:43 PM]

I not sure if doctor can give MC to themselves

xXx.SCAR.xXx, [12/2/2025 1:46 PM]

They can't. I meant it to be satire :)

REACH Singapore, [12/2/2025 2:09 PM]

📢 Topic 📢


LCL (Danny 心), [12/2/2025 2:14 PM]

Fingerprint need to be converted into digital data - image compression and data compression and stored into a database before fingerprint authentication can be performed for sign-in.

If hackers can hacked into the database, it can steal the digital fingerprint without the needs to cut the finger.


LCL (Danny 心), [12/2/2025 2:27 PM]

*Bilingualism*

1. With the increasing bifurcated world, the heightening geopolitical tussling and tariffs coercion - bilingualism will be increasingly important for us to ensure we are able to communicate in English as a working language as well as a language of unity among our various racial communities.


2. Second languages can be used to liaise and communicate with foreign countries.


3. Eg. Chinese can use Mandarin to communicate with China, Taiwan, HK and other countries with Chinese diaspora.


4. Malays can be used to communicate with Malaysia, Indonesia, Brunei as well as foreign countries with Malays diaspora.


5. Indians can be used to communicate with India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and other countries with Indian diaspora.


6. Languages such as French, Germans, Italian, Portugese, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, Thai, Myanmar etc can be used to communicate with the respective Countries of origin.


7. These will help Singapore to open up opportunities for business, investment, trade, travel etc with many foreign countries all over the world to secure our future in creating business opportunities and job creation in Singapore as geopolitics tussling deepen and heighten.


LCL (Danny 心), [12/2/2025 2:42 PM]

8. Hence diversity is a positive development for us (not a negative development - depending how Society view it).


9. Some countries view single race nationalist as their strength and push out diversity and minorities - due to intolerance and xenophobic views.


10. Singapore on the other hands embrace diversity, forge unity among different races and tap on the strength and values of different races to make our Nation strong and diverse - and build connection with countries all over the world through our various diaspora races.


11. Hence bilingualism is the product of our tolerant and benevolent Society whereby we accept and value diversity and view it as our strength rather than a source of friction.


12. With the unraveling of deepening tension in the Global stage, bilingualism and our diversity through mutual respect will put us in a good stead - as we will be able to navigate ourselves in the complex world to create and find niches for ourselves in business, investment and create jobs for ourselves as traditional source of our prosperity come under stress.

Indeed we are a Country rule by Saints 圣人之治。


Adam, [12/2/2025 2:43 PM]

some schools are better than others. Some bilingualism will create more opportunities. Some schools have special programme for not all languages. And some jobs require languages that might not be required.

Adam, [12/2/2025 2:45 PM]

Compare malay to chinese, which will a eurasian benefit more? Have we created as much opportunities for minorities? Both in education and jobs

Adam, [12/2/2025 2:46 PM]

Why are we teaching Tamil when hindi is more used in India?

Adam, [12/2/2025 2:47 PM]

And to be more diverse, shouldnt we change to cmio quota to changing times? Perhaps we can have more Indians and malays grow in proportion instead of importing to maintain supermajority chinese


LCL (Danny 心), [12/2/2025 2:48 PM]

Singapore has been actively involved in joint economic projects with several ASEAN countries as part of its efforts to strengthen regional cooperation and economic integration. These projects span various sectors, including industrial parks, special economic zones, infrastructure development, and trade facilitation. Below are some key ASEAN countries where Singapore has significant joint economic projects:

---

### 1. Malaysia

   - Iskandar Malaysia (Johor): Singapore has invested in the Iskandar Malaysia economic zone, located in Johor, just across the border from Singapore. Projects include industrial parks, logistics hubs, and real estate developments.

   - Singapore-Johor-Riau (SIJORI) Growth Triangle: This initiative promotes economic cooperation between Singapore, Johor (Malaysia), and the Riau Islands (Indonesia).

---

### 2. Indonesia

   - Batam, Bintan, and Karimun (BBK) Special Economic Zones: Singapore has collaborated with Indonesia to develop industrial parks and tourism infrastructure in these islands.

   - Kendal Industrial Park (Java): A joint venture between Singapore and Indonesia to create a modern industrial park for manufacturing and logistics.

   - Nongsa Digital Park (Batam): A collaboration to develop a digital economy hub, focusing on tech startups and digital services.

---

### 3. Vietnam

   - Vietnam-Singapore Industrial Parks (VSIP): A series of industrial parks developed jointly by Singapore and Vietnam in cities like Binh Duong, Hai Phong, and Quang Ngai. These parks focus on manufacturing, logistics, and supporting industries.

   - Smart Cities and Urban Development: Singapore has partnered with Vietnam on smart city projects, including the development of sustainable urban infrastructure.

---

### 4. Thailand

   - Eastern Economic Corridor (EEC): Singapore has invested in Thailand's EEC, a flagship project aimed at developing advanced industries, infrastructure, and logistics in the eastern region of Thailand.

   - Trade and Logistics Collaboration: Singapore and Thailand have worked together to enhance cross-border trade and logistics connectivity.

---

### 5. Myanmar

   - Thilawa Special Economic Zone: Singapore has been a key investor in the development of the Thilawa SEZ near Yangon, focusing on manufacturing and export-oriented industries.

---

### 6. Cambodia

   - Phnom Penh Special Economic Zone: Singaporean companies have invested in industrial parks and infrastructure projects in Cambodia to support manufacturing and export activities.

---

### 7. Laos

   - Trade and Connectivity Projects: Singapore has collaborated with Laos on trade facilitation and infrastructure development, including the Laos-Singapore Business Council to promote economic ties.

---

### 8. Philippines

   - Clark Freeport Zone: Singaporean companies have invested in industrial and logistics projects in the Clark Freeport Zone, a major economic hub in the Philippines.

   - Infrastructure Development: Singapore has partnered with the Philippines on urban planning and infrastructure projects.

---

### 9. Brunei

   - Energy and Logistics: Singapore and Brunei have collaborated on energy projects, including oil and gas, as well as logistics and trade facilitation initiatives.

---

### Regional Initiatives

Singapore is also involved in broader ASEAN-wide initiatives, such as:

   - ASEAN Economic Community (AEC): Promoting regional economic integration and trade.

   - ASEAN Smart Cities Network (ASCN): Collaborating on smart city development across ASEAN member states.

   - Infrastructure Connectivity: Supporting regional infrastructure projects under the ASEAN Connectivity Master Plan.

---

These joint economic projects reflect Singapore's commitment to fostering regional economic growth and strengthening ties with its ASEAN neighbors. For the latest updates on specific projects, you can refer to the websites of Singapore's Ministry of Trade and Industry (MTI) or Enterprise Singapore.

LCL (Danny 心), [12/2/2025 2:48 PM]

Source:- DeepSeek


LCL (Danny 心), [12/2/2025 2:52 PM]

This is how diversity in our population bring about business and job opportunities for Singaporeans.

The diversity we embrace indeed allow us to penetrate and build business ties with many of our neighboring countries in ASEAN.

As a result, we are able to secure and cement Singapore as a Global and regional port hub and air hub - as US trade centric global supply chain increasingly come under stress and threat.


Adam, [12/2/2025 2:53 PM]

Diversity is not the biggest factor. Sure it might help but there are many others like political climate, stability,  location, ease of business

Adam, [12/2/2025 2:56 PM]

We are on the topic of education

Adam, [12/2/2025 2:57 PM]

I dont think so much emphasis be devoted in bilingualism when most jobs dont need it. We even have great ai to do translation.

Maybe it's to help with culture and singaporean identity. But imo singaporean identity is divided more than ever

Adam, [12/2/2025 2:58 PM]

Especially division based on language

Adam, [12/2/2025 2:58 PM]

Too often I see cliques of Chinese and Indians in my office talking in their own language

REACH Singapore, [12/2/2025 4:13 PM]

📢 Topic 📢

Khai Mun L., [12/2/2025 4:17 PM]

This would be the benefit of bilingualism. We can break and 'spy' on their conversation if you know the language.

Especially when we have foreign staff everywhere.

Khai Mun L., [12/2/2025 4:19 PM]

Plus waiting to speak/type into translation tool is slow and might be inaccurate (due to technical terms etc). Hence we rarely see world leaders purely using translation tools, but rely on actual translators


LCL (Danny 心), [12/2/2025 5:02 PM]

Normally a business deal will be cordial and sealed when we are able to speak their language.

Yesterday, I spoke Mandarin to a Taiwanese though both of us can speak English and the contractual terms are in English.

We strike up an informal and cordial conversation and throw in some jokes and humor in Mandarin with splattering of English for technical terms (in which I am not able to express the right term in Mandarin) and close the deal easily.

I think if we both converse in English, the mood is not so cordial and the process will not be as smooth.

The Taiwanese go the extra mile to keep me on the loop through phone calls after office hours when her manager are tie up in meetings.

Hence bilingualism is a big plus for our population if we need to do business with the world.


LCL (Danny 心), [12/2/2025 5:04 PM]

I can't imagine whipping out my handphone, speak into the Google translate for translation and then let the handphone talk to the other party in their language by activating the speaker.

Anyone do that in a business conversation and yet can seal a business deal?

It would be wiser for me to bring a staff who can speak their language to communicate.


Adam, [12/2/2025 5:17 PM]

Yet this is a reality of a non Chinese when speaking to mainland/Taiwan for work

Adam, [12/2/2025 5:18 PM]

Does a competent minority that does not know Chinese have to be sidelined in opportunities because they might miss out on rubbing shoulders with the client

Adam, [12/2/2025 5:19 PM]

What is this state of our workplace?

Adam, [12/2/2025 5:20 PM]

Because of the extremely high English proficiency of our Indian workers, we can communicate to India easily without learning hindi


LCL (Danny 心), [12/2/2025 5:21 PM]

1. Eg. Previously when need to do project with India, 

We bring in an Indian staff to speak in their language.

2. Previously I also got Myanmar colleague as we have dealing in Myanmar.


LCL (Danny 心), [12/2/2025 5:23 PM]

3. When we need to do China project, we meet the clients with Chinese staff.

4. But backend can be supported by other races.

For eg. My chief network engineer is an Indian staff.


Adam, [12/2/2025 5:26 PM]

My issue with the bilingualism is that children is forced to study in a way they have no passion for, and the result of the language education is dubious. If you need language, put it in the job requirements and get someone who really likes the language.

You can find numerous Chinese who can barely speak proper mandarin. Sure they might have a basic understanding but you cannot assume they know the language based on their skin


LCL (Danny 心), [12/2/2025 5:26 PM]

5. When I need to produce a project plan to submit to China for a China project, I wrote in English and translate it into Mandarin using Google translate.

6. When I read the article, and show it to my China national colleague, he laugh loudly - because the report sounds very comical.

7. Finally, he help me to rewrite the whole project plan using my English version.


Adam, [12/2/2025 5:28 PM]

Mr Chan vision for a broader definition of success. The old metric of success is passing, excelling all subjects. Being better than peers to win the limited placements. One of subjects being mother tongue. 

So if bilingualism is that important, is someone who has trouble at their 2nd language a Failure?

Jun Ming, [12/2/2025 5:37 PM]

Or the other way round if someone excel in mother tongue is someone who failed English a failure

Jun Ming, [12/2/2025 5:39 PM]

I think we should increase in our mtl and make exams compatible to English exams in terms of format

Jun Ming, [12/2/2025 5:40 PM]

Or maybe expose them on mtl literature so they have more exposure to mtl


LCL (Danny 心), [12/2/2025 5:41 PM]

Sorry what is mtl?


Jun Ming, [12/2/2025 5:41 PM]

Mother tongue language


LCL (Danny 心), [12/2/2025 5:41 PM]

Oh I see.


Jun Ming, [12/2/2025 5:45 PM]

Just feel like students should expose to 古文。may not be examable but just need some exposure to see the beauty of the language

Dr. Goh, [12/2/2025 5:57 PM]

Subject banding was a bad idea. Actually created a lot more stress for students. Now every parent who wants better placement for their children wants to squeeze every point out of AL system. Many also opt for DSA to get extra edge. Older system had a score that made it easier to know whether a child could pass the requirements. When you make the lines too fudgy you get more complaints when same score students don't get their top choices when others did.

Content has been pared down quite a lot. So it passes the knowledge gap to universities to settle. Many students will end up having steeper learning curves in universities or universities having to make courses far too easy. If you want a knowledge economy you want people who can handle difficult problems. Even for my generation many with technical degrees cannot even handle simple math when it is required. You wonder why China can progress so fast in tech, it is because their students learn more content in more depth and are trained to bash through long hours of work to get results.

Being bilingual is probably essential for future jobs. The rise of Asia is expected. Send students to China and India to get relevant exposure, they are likely to be valuable in future.

Dr. Goh, [12/2/2025 5:59 PM]

One problem I saw before was scholar teachers choosing to go elite schools to teach. I hope it isn't the case today. There are scholar teachers who do this for passion so they can go to any school and do what they like - teach. But some do it for KPI and career progression so the starting point is already wrong. Hire for the right reasons to help the next generation excel. Seen quite a fair bit of media coverage on questionable character of teachers and school staff.

REACH Singapore, [12/2/2025 6:10 PM]

📢 Topic 📢

RY, [12/2/2025 6:17 PM]

SG parents are too focus on academic results, and those can afford may choose to let their children to go to famous SAP  schools

 It may take years to change this mindset and MOE may have to do more to "educate" parents 

SG education change a lot over the years fm spoon-feeding to now "think out of the box" - Certainly, a good change from MOE aspects

However, SG education still lack the entrepreneurship spirit 

Israel education has produce many inventive biz eg MobileEye for driverless driving 

Israel govt may give funds for those young people to start own innovative invention, even b4 they further their study to Uni 

That is why we may see many invention in Israel


LCL (Danny 心), [12/2/2025 6:23 PM]

1. I will like to comment on some misconception that alot of things learn in secondary, JC poly, and even university are not useful in the job market.


2. This misconception comes about because of the nature of the jobs.


3. Those who are doing sales, business, operation, system integration and even development work - most of the knowledge in STEM such as mathematics, statistics, physics, chemistry may seems not to be useful and may not even use it.

Software engineer only needs to be conversant in programming language like python lah, c programming lah, SQL lah, database lah etc. Network engineer need to be conversant in Cisco config configuration. Etc. No need math, physics or chemistry.


4. But those who are doing basic research and even applied research - mathematics, physics,  chemistry from secondary level, JC and all the way up to university will be extremely critical - because STEM R&D foundation are based on solid grounding in all these fundamental subjects.


5. In fact, many breakthrough in sophisticated AI such as Generative AI, reinforcement learning, neural network, computer vision, 3D modeling etc are all based on solid mathematics from secondary school onwards eg. Linear equations lah, probability lah, statistics lah, permutation lah..


6. Now DeepSeek knowledge distillation, Bytedance multi modal AI, in future Agentic AI - foundations need very advanced maths to break through.


Hanny, [12/2/2025 6:25 PM]

Mother tongue is an important  subject. It’s one area that separates us in the region. Note that this advantage is slowly diminishing because more students from the region are studying in China. And this is with Chinese scholarship.


LCL (Danny 心), [12/2/2025 6:32 PM]

7. In fact, quantum computing is based on solid foundation in physics and math that go right into atomic structure dealing with subatomic properties.


8. And include quantum qubits, superposition, quantum entanglement, teleportation etc - that will unravel the mystery of the creation of universe.


9. If no solid grounding in physics and material science - understanding quantum computing is a lost cause.


10. For those who need to work in nuclear power plant, SMR nuclear reactor - workers need to dwell into nuclear physics, nuclear fusion, nuclear fission etc. Workers will need solid knowledge in atom, nucleus, electron, proton etc. Deuterium, Helium etc.


Ginie/Komal ZENDORA J, [12/2/2025 6:44 PM]

Yes more difficult process from hacker. In comparison to taking yr face from social media (accessible to many) What happened to security system that suspose to protect such data (only gov will have access to yr fingerprint)


LCL (Danny 心), [12/2/2025 6:44 PM]

Btw, Wonder how to say this in Mandarin?

Scratching my head...


REACH Singapore, [12/2/2025 6:45 PM]

Dear Contributors,

⏰ We will be closing the chat in 15 minutes ⏰

Thank you very much for being part of our Telegram chat and participating actively.

Goodnight!

Megan 😊


LCL (Danny 心), [12/2/2025 6:45 PM]

Chinese (Simplified)

7. 事实上,量子计算建立在物理和数学的坚实基础之上,这些基础直接深入到处理亚原子特性的原子结构。 8. 包括量子比特、叠加、量子纠缠、隐形传态等——这将揭开宇宙创造的奥秘。 9. 如果没有扎实的物理学和材料科学基础——理解量子计算就注定失败。 10. 对于需要在核电站、SMR核反应堆工作的人——工人需要深入研究核物理、核聚变、核裂变等。工人需要扎实的原子、核、电子、质子等氘、氦等知识。

Source:- Google translate


LCL (Danny 心), [12/2/2025 6:47 PM]

Very CIM, catch no ball - 很深.  抓没有球。


RY, [12/2/2025 6:48 PM]

SG education is one of the best in the world, but it can be very stress too 

Hence, too many tuitions for children may not be good, as they should learn from playing and enjoy their childhood sametime 

And our children are already wearing specs as early as P1 - too much smartphone or studying ?

MOH may have to look into children eye problems at very young age 

China has stop parents from sending kids for academic tuition during school holidays in recently years 

Children must learn to manage 'stress", otherwise they may end up with mental issues later, which is even more problems for parents and country level as a whole later

RY, [12/2/2025 6:52 PM]

However, I must say MOE is in the right path for having bilingual education from the start  

Which is beneficial for our career path/travelling and open communication with the world

REACH Singapore, [12/2/2025 6:59 PM]

Dear Contributors

We will be closing the chat for today.

Thank you very much for being part of our Telegram chat and participating actively.

Goodnight!

Megan 😊


====

Wednesday, February 5, 2025

REACH (Telegram) 56 - What are your views on the US trade tariffs and its potential impact on Singapore? How can Singapore better prepare itself for global economic shifts?

(SK)

05 Feb 2025 (10am - 7pm)


REACH (Telegram)

REACH Singapore, [5/2/2025 9:59 AM]

Dear contributors,

Welcome back! 😊

⏰ We will be opening the chat from 10am to 7pm today. ⏰

House Rules (short version of our Terms of Use) to keep in mind:

1. Be kind and respectful. We all want to be in a safe space to share our views. 

2. Any and all threatening, abusive, vulgar or racially, religiously and ethnically objectionable content is prohibited. 

3. Consider the quiet ones among us and give them a chance to comment. 

4. No need to repeat your comment or in differnet forms (including caps) - we heard you loud and clear the first time. 

5. Let's protect each other's privacy and keep contact details in this group what it should always be - confidential. 

Full set of Terms of Use: https://www.reach.gov.sg/Participate/reach-telegram-group/REACH-Telegram-Group-Chat-Terms-of-Use/

We will strive to uphold these rules to ensure this is a safe space for all. 

Please be assured that the points made by participants during the chat are aggregated and shared with relevant agencies. 

The topic will be posted shortly. 

Thank you. 

Megan 😊

REACH Singapore, [5/2/2025 10:03 AM]

📢 Topic 📢

On 4 Feb (Tuesday)’s Parliament Sitting, Foreign Minister Vivian Balakrishnan said that Singapore is not expected to be hit by trade tariffs from the United States, but still stands to be indirectly impacted as it is a small and open economy. 

💬 What are your views on the US trade tariffs and its potential impact on Singapore? How can Singapore better prepare itself for global economic shifts?

He was responding to Nominated MP Neil Parekh, who had asked about Singapore-US bilateral ties following the takeover of President Donald Trump from Mr Joe Biden on Jan 20, as well as about the impact of tariffs imposed by the US on some countries.

📌 Strong US-Singapore relations

Dr Balakrishnan said tariffs and emerging tariffs are a reality going forward. 

He noted how the US-Singapore Free Trade Agreement has contributed to a tripling of bilateral trade since 2004, allowing the US to consistently maintain a trade surplus with Singapore. “I do not anticipate us being on the hit list for direct tariffs, because... the United States has a surplus as far as the trade balance with us is concerned,” he said.

Dr Balakrishnan said Singapore and the US enjoy a substantive, multi-faceted and long-standing partnership that has been nurtured over the past 60 years across both Democratic and Republican administrations. 

"The US is our top trading partner in services, our second largest trading partner in goods, and our largest foreign investor," adding that Singapore is the third largest Asian investor in the US.

📌 Singapore to remain careful and prepared for economic turbulence

But Singapore still needs to be careful and prepared for how turbulent the economic situation can be, he said.

“The fact that we are a small, open economy, and that trade constitutes more than three times our GDP (gross domestic product), means if there is any friction, if there is any degradation of economic integration, global supply chains and world trade, we will be impacted indirectly,” said Dr Balakrishnan.

📌 A need for Singapore to navigate global economic shifts

He said the world is now at a new inflection point where the liberal world order is being eroded and has lost domestic political support in many parts of the world. The minister pointed out how the relationship between the US and its own allies and neighbours in its own hemisphere is also evolving.

The challenge is how Singapore and the region should respond, and Dr Balakrishnan stressed that there needs to be engagement with the multiple poles of power that are emerging. 

“That means engaging with the United States, engaging with China, India, the EU, Africa, South America,” he said. “And you will notice our intensive diplomacy and economic engagement across the world.”

🔗 [ST] https://str.sg/J9heR

🔗 [CNA] https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/us-tariffs-china-vivian-balakrishnan-impact-world-trade-economy-4915176

----


REACH Singapore, [5/2/2025 10:55 AM]

Dear Contributors,

We want to HEAR MORE from you!

💬 What are your views on the US trade tariffs and its potential impact on Singapore? How can Singapore better prepare itself for global economic shifts?

We have had good feedback from this group, and we hope that we can keep the discussion robust and active! 

Thank you!

Megan 😊

REACH Singapore, [5/2/2025 11:00 AM]

[ Poll : 1. How concerned are you about the current global geopolitical situation? Please elaborate on your answer in the chat. ]

- Very concerned 

- Somewhat concerned 

- Not concerned 

REACH Singapore, [5/2/2025 11:00 AM]

[ Poll : 2. How prepared do you think Singapore is to navigate the current global economic shifts? Please elaborate on your answer in the chat. ]

- Well prepared 

- Somewhat prepared 

- Not prepared


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 11:06 AM]

1. Trade is a critical economic activity for any Country and the world.


2. It cover every facets of economic sectors within a country such as seaport, air, logistics, shipping, finance, manufacturing etc.

That means if trade is disrupted, business and jobs in all these economic sectors will be impacted - resulting in slow development and job losses.


3. In fact a country prosperity is hinge on trade - investment, business, jobs.


4. A country if rely on domestic economy will be unable to grow as fast - not even big countries such as China, Russia - before open up to trade is mire in poverty.

Just look at isolationist N Korea - no trade, in deep poverty.

China and Vietnam fly - after opening up for trade - and in fact prosper through trade and investment.


5. Hence any disruption in trade will have a far reaching consequences economically, politically and social welfare of a country.


6. It will in fact trigger friction, confrontation and even war contesting for resources and labour - as the global economy are now so integrated through trade.


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 11:12 AM]

1. In fact after world war 2, 2 important international organisations are formed - UN to ensure political, security differences are settled through negotiations in the global stage.


2. WTO - to facilitate trade among member countries to forge economic cooperation to prevent another world war.

Of course world bank and imf are formed to provide finance to help countries to rebuild after the world war.


3. Unraveling trade is a sure way to stoke WW3 - if not properly managed.

And not financing the world bank and imf is the sure way to starve countries from the funds needed to grow - seeding the roots of confrontation and war.


4. Now all these conditions are rearing its head.


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 11:50 AM]

1. US GDP US$27.8 trillion economy - the largest consumption country in the world - also largely prosper through trade - because its MNCs set up offices and production plants in many countries to exploit cheaper resources through exchange of labour and resources.


2. China, US$18.8 trillion GDP - also prosper largely through trade as the world largest manufacturing hubs.


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 11:55 AM]

3. If US and China counter tariff one another, the major global supply chain will break and trade will falter.


4. Trade being the largest multiplier effect component in any country economic growth through circular flow of income - will squeeze investment, business activities, and consequently job loss.


5. Trade hence is not only an important economic apparatus, but also an important political apparatus to ensure political stability as well as social apparatus to ensure social stability (to prevent social unrest and poverty).


REACH Singapore, [5/2/2025 12:00 PM]

📢 Topic 📢


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 12:02 PM]

1. Hence we seriously need to look for alternative trade route and global supply chain - as US are increasingly growing protectionist - not only for this administration - but also future administration.


2. During Biden administration, we have high hopes that Biden could reverse economic sanctions - to foster international trade.


3. But to our horror, he decided to keep all sanctions and in fact impose targeted sanctions on high tech chips, social media, Big Tech etc - in the name of national security in the hope of knocking out its closet competitor, China.


4. Instead of boosting and relying on superior R&D to out innovate its competitors through "constructive competition" 良性竞争, Biden administration uses "destructive competition" 恶性竞争 - through ban and sanctions - stifling international trade, stoking tension and lead to confrontation - reversing the original intent of WTO to prevent WW3.


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 12:05 PM]

5. Now Trump administration double down the "destructive competition" through tariff and trade war - to stamp its supremacy while it can (in his own words) (CNA news).


6. Because a big part of global trade are link to China and China manufacturers (in China mainland and spread across ASEAN and Asia) as manufacturing hubs - to be finally delivered to US as a major consumption country.


7. Singapore high value added export are going via this route.


8. So even if tariff are not levy by Trump on Singapore but China or our other trading partners like ASEAN - we will also be impacted - because our manufacturing activities and trade is to service the US market.


9. Of course we also import alot of food, raw materials and semi-finished goods from these countries. Will also be impacted if trade slow.


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 12:16 PM]

1. The only way to wriggle out of this mess - geopolitical tussling between US and China - is to promote multi-polar consumption superpowers,  middle powers and middle power blocs instead of relying on 1 consumption superpower - US (through reconfigured global supply chain and trade blocs).


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 12:20 PM]

2. That means, China need to ramp up its economic activities through more innovation, create jobs, boost domestic consumption, develop less developed 2nd tier city, rural areas, boost its service sectors and put itself out as 2nd largest consumption country in the world like what US use to do.

And promote trade with its trading partners like Singapore.

And Singapore will benefit immensely if China succeeded to do so.


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 12:24 PM]

3. ASEAN with many young vibrant middle income population should also follow the same model through integrated trade and investment.

I feel that our economic integration with Malaysia Johor economic zone, Indonesia joint venture industrial park, Vietnam joint industrial park, energy grid integration etc - are very good to facilitate intra ASEAN trade.

As economic integration materialise within ASEAN, Singapore will benefit from growing trade within ASEAN as well as becoming a growing consumption middle power nations bloc.


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 12:27 PM]

4. India, will also be an up and coming middle power chasing behind China - and as long as India are willing to slowly open up their economy through investment, trade and business - our foot into India will also bear fruits for us as India middle income population consumption appetite is huge.


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 12:40 PM]

5. In Asia Pacific, there are other middle power nations on its own right eg. Japan, SKorea, Australia and to a lesser extent New Zealand.

We should see how to facilitate more trade and consumption among these countries - except the challenge is their declining population that stifle consumption and hence the margin for trade growth could be limited.


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 12:42 PM]

6. Looking afar, the biggest consumption economic bloc is the EU and UK.

I feel that if our EDB and IE enterprise work a bit harder, we can slowly grow our trade to compensate for losses in the US market by promoting Singapore as a trade hub to ASEAN and our neighbouring countries.


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 12:44 PM]

7. Next the more untapped market is South America eg. The larger middle power nations such as Brazil, Peru and Chile.

Less information on their income and consumption pattern as well as their appetite for more trade.

But a good untapped market that we can explore more.


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 12:45 PM]

8. Like South America, it also apply to Africa continent.


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 12:48 PM]

9. Middle East countries are rich and heavily dependent on oil - but increasingly stress by global countries will to go green.

Hence many rich Middle East countries are looking for ways to diversify their economies.

I think Singapore can tap this middle east market to help to bolster our trade.


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 1:00 PM]

10. Last but not least are the Central Asia Countries which are also least tapped like South America.

But their population income and consumption pattern also need more study.


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 1:05 PM]

To summarise, we need a deliberate process to map out a total "multi-polar middle power nations and middle power trade blocs and consumption nations" :-


1. We need to identify the Comparative advantage in trade, exchange of labour and resources of each trade blocs and middle powers (and ensure they have redundancy among them).

If one member within the bloc is disrupted, we can easily ramp up trade with its redundant member to ensure the trade supply chain are not impacted.


2. This "multi-polar middle power nations and trade blocs" consumption nations must be fully self sufficient - which should be an alternative to one large consumption nation (ie. If one day US decide to shut and isolate itself completely out of world trade - we are able to rely on this alternative trade blocs to survive) and maintain our US$1.5 trillion trade and US$501.4 billion GDP.


3. The World GDP is US$110 trillion minus US GDP US$27.8 trillion - we can still tap on US$82.2 trillion Global GDP to replace our loss if US trade war deepen.


4. Singapore is a little red dot, a mere 5.6 million population.

To find an alternate $1.5 trillion trade and maintain our $500 billion GDP is less tough compare to other bigger countries with more mouth to feed.


5. By promoting this "middle powers and middle power trade blocs" to WTO - a more comprehensive trade strategy will be conceptualised at the global stage - and made WTO mission more meaningful to exist - without the mercy of one dominating unwilling superpower that held the world trade by its throat.


6. It will also release the pressure from building up globally - that could lead to WW3 - if no alternative are found.


7. Hence multi-polar middle power trade blocs (with build in redundancy) will release the economic stress of relying on one large consumption nation to fuel the economic growth of the world countries.


8. The baton should be passed on and helm by every members of WTO.


9. Then globalisation will take on a new meaning and purpose to thrive into the next phase of global economic development -.and postpone or prevent a WW3 through a rejuvenated WTO.


10. The existence of the rejuvenated WTO will be more meaningful to ensure its gainful fulfilment of its mission of fostering trade, business, investment to ensure world prosperity and hence securing world peace.


11. A new meaning and purpose is given to Globalisation as a fuel for World economic growth - minus the negative sentiment that now fuel the far right movement and nationalisation in US and EU - as the economic fruits of globalisation, trade, investment and jobs are shared widely by all strata of the population and nations instead of concentrating on the few richest.


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 1:30 PM]

10. Lastly, we need to ensure our best Ministers and civil service are in place - as we need the best brains to helm all our Ministries - with all hands on deck.


11. Our economic lifeline is at stake - and the coming General Election is our inflection point.

If we mess up by playing with our votes, we will condemn ourselves and our future livelihood if the Government don't get all the best brains in the Cabinet.


REACH Singapore, [5/2/2025 1:59 PM]

📢 Topic 📢


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 2:03 PM]

Prompt:- Why world war 2 are fought?

Is it because countries no trade, poor economic growth and need to snatch resources?


Response:-

World War II (1939-1945) was fought for a complex mix of reasons, and while economic factors like trade disputes, poor economic growth, and competition for resources played a significant role, they were not the sole causes. Here are the key factors that contributed to the outbreak of the war:

### 1. Treaty of Versailles and Post-WWI Resentment

   - The harsh terms imposed on Germany after World War I by the Treaty of Versailles (1919) created widespread resentment. Germany was forced to accept full responsibility for the war, pay massive reparations, and give up territory. This fueled nationalist and revanchist sentiments, which Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party exploited to gain power.

### 2. Economic Instability and the Great Depression

   - The Great Depression (1929-1939) caused global economic turmoil, leading to high unemployment, poverty, and political instability. Countries like Germany, Italy, and Japan, which were already struggling, turned to authoritarian regimes that promised economic recovery and national glory.

   - Economic hardships also led to protectionist trade policies, reducing international cooperation and exacerbating tensions.

### 3. Rise of Fascism and Militarism

   - In Germany, the Nazi Party, led by Adolf Hitler, sought to expand German territory (Lebensraum) and establish dominance in Europe.

   - In Italy, Benito Mussolini's fascist regime aimed to restore the Roman Empire's glory through conquest.

   - In Japan, militarists sought to expand their empire in Asia to secure resources like oil, rubber, and metals, which they lacked domestically.

### 4. Imperialism and Competition for Resources

   - Many nations, particularly Japan, Italy, and Germany, sought to acquire new territories to secure resources and markets. This led to aggressive expansionist policies:

     - Japan invaded Manchuria (1931) and later China (1937).

     - Italy invaded Ethiopia (1935-1936).

     - Germany annexed Austria (1938) and Czechoslovakia (1939) and later invaded Poland (1939), triggering the war.

### 5. Failure of Appeasement and the League of Nations

   - The policy of appeasement, particularly by Britain and France, allowed Hitler to expand German territory unchecked, emboldening his aggression.

   - The League of Nations, established after WWI to maintain peace, failed to prevent aggression by major powers due to a lack of enforcement mechanisms and the absence of key countries like the U.S.

### 6. Nationalism and Ideological Conflicts

   - Extreme nationalism in Germany, Italy, and Japan promoted the idea of racial superiority and the right to dominate other nations.

   - Ideological conflicts between fascism, communism, and democracy also played a role, as seen in the Nazi-Soviet Pact (1939) and later the conflict between the Axis and Allied powers.

### 7. Trigger: Invasion of Poland

   - The immediate cause of WWII was Germany's invasion of Poland on September 1, 1939. Britain and France, having pledged to defend Poland, declared war on Germany, marking the start of the global conflict.

### Summary

While economic factors like poor growth, trade disputes, and competition for resources were significant, WWII was ultimately caused by a combination of political, ideological, and territorial ambitions, exacerbated by the failures of the post-WWI order and the rise of aggressive, authoritarian regimes.

Source:- DeepSeek AI


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 2:06 PM]

Looking at the current world scenarios:-

How many events are similar to what happens to WW2?


Jun Ming, [5/2/2025 2:08 PM]

I think trump is more of a America first person. He is more of a self centred person. I don't think he would initiate war

Jun Ming, [5/2/2025 2:09 PM]

He at most blame China this and that... For overtaking america but I don't think he will start a war to fight other countries. In fact he tries to stop war.

Jun Ming, [5/2/2025 2:11 PM]

He is a business man. He knows an actual war will not help in his wealth


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 2:15 PM]

Can never tell.

He is unpredictable.


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 2:16 PM]

1. He nearly started a nuclear war with N Korea in his 1st term.

2. A few B-1B bombers armed with nuclear bombs are sent.

3. Just before a new year, drill bombs was dropped to test the air defence near a few sites.

4. A retaliatory IRBM was launched that fall near Guam.

Residents in Guam got a false alarm and dart into sewage system to hide thinking that a nuclear missile has landed in Guam.

5. Luckily the exchanges was stopped in time, when the NKorea chief step up in a new year message to ask for truce.

6. And then the peace talk is held in Sentosa as he see a suggestion in the social media that Sentosa is a nice place to golf and talk.

While our government offer him Shangrila (after a security forum) with security details intact.

Our army and home team security posture step up within one month - with integrated defence to protect the VIPs in Sentosa as a result.


Jun Ming, [5/2/2025 2:23 PM]

His strategy to end nuclear in north Korea. Kind of successful

Jun Ming, [5/2/2025 2:23 PM]

Until Biden step up


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 2:23 PM]

It was not a strategy.

It nearly happen according to CIA de-classified documents.


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 2:24 PM]

NKorea learn about the nuclear bombers strike through social media - and quickly step up to stop the exchanges.


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 2:34 PM]

1. And he say he won't rule out military actions to invade Greenland, Panama canal and annex Canada as its 51st State with imperialism intent.

2. He activated his army and deployed soldiers near the Mexico borders to deport immigrants and stop immigrants from coming into US.

Exchange of fire happens between Mexico armed militants.

3. He say he won't start a war?

4. Don't know...


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 2:37 PM]

US Border Patrol and Mexican cartel members trade gunfire at southern border: report

https://nypost.com/2025/01/28/us-news/us-border-patrol-and-mexican-cartel-members-trade-gunfire-at-southern-border-report/


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 2:51 PM]

1. The inherent roots of why WW2 break out.


2. And why the current world geopolitical tensions arises that are slowly mirroring and taking shapes like WW2 are due to 5 inherent human roots in humanity.


3. 贪嗔痴慢疑。

 Greed, Hatred/Anger, Ignorance, Arrogance, Distrust.


a. Greed for enormous wealth, greed for power, greed to be world number 1.


b. When greed expectations are not met, hatred/anger arises - resort to destructive competition, throw spanner to displace competition, fueling confrontation, conflict and consequently world war.


c. Ignorance - oblivious to the fact that constructive collaboration, constructive competition, collaborative trade, win-win solutions can foster mutual prosperity and peace.

Ignorance - oblivious to the fact that destructive competition can lead to lose-lose scenarios and world war.


d. Greed for dominant superpower can lead to arrogance and intolerant of a competitive rising nation and lead to "Thucydides Trap".


e. Distrust arises that lead to employment of destructive competition such as ban, tariff, sanctions, throwing spanners, hopefully to trip and fell its competitor - leading to a lose-lose outcomes and consequently world war.


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 3:00 PM]

The scenario you're describing is known as the "Thucydides Trap".

The Thucydides Trap refers to a situation in which a rising power (the "challenger") threatens the dominance of an established power (the "incumbent"), leading to increased tensions and a heightened risk of conflict between the two.

This concept is named after the ancient Greek historian Thucydides, who described a similar dynamic between Athens and Sparta in his book "The History of the Peloponnesian War".

Source:- Meta AI llama


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 3:08 PM]

Hence my proposed "Multi polar, middle power trade and consumption blocs" to replace the current trade system ---- I believe can arrest the train wreck -  and could prevent a WW3 - by releasing the pressure and stress of the current confrontational world trade.


Khai Mun L., [5/2/2025 3:32 PM]

America under trump is encouraging countries to swing to china and other nations. Decoupling from usa would give less things for trump to threaten us.

But china is doing something similar too, keep pushing boundaries. Ships, rockets sent to other territories without warning etc. flooding markets with government subsidied goods, which can lead to local business unable to keep offering lower cost.

Khai Mun L., [5/2/2025 3:34 PM]

Seems to be fragmentation of the world. Might be worse than WWII where USA was treated as single superpower. Now there are mulitple powerhouses, plus tech billionaires jumping into the fray


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 3:58 PM]

Multi polar middle power trade blocs to prevent single big powers domination could be better for the whole world.

Risk are diversified and not concentrated in 1 or 2 nations.

Less likely to clash if there are more avenues for trade and business.


REACH Singapore, [5/2/2025 4:03 PM]

📢 Topic 📢

Khai Mun L., [5/2/2025 4:10 PM]

As a small country with multiple stakeholders, racial groups, immigrant labor force, sg government and business have to be more wary and are vulnerable to swings in the global diversified economy. I.e. not easy to earn quick and big money, local people have to be aware that diversifying can mean lower returns. We have to be more prudent on our money


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 4:14 PM]

Now no choice as we need to shift and restructure.

We cannot depends on US to feed us - because they care about themselves more than us.

We need to shift and find other bright spots.

While doing so, we bound to lose something that we are comfortable with.

Prices for some goods will go up because of the tariffs war.

But as we restructure for the long term, one day we will have a more resilient trade system and supply chain to ensure that our seaports, airhub, logistics chain, manufacturing hubs, financial hubs etc continue to flourish.


xXx.SCAR.xXx, [5/2/2025 4:15 PM]

https://www.mti.gov.sg/Newsroom/Parliamentary-Replies/2022/11/Written-reply-to-PQ-on-Diversifying-External-Demand-Markets-Given-Current-Geopolitical

https://www.mti.gov.sg/COS-2023/Committee-of-Supply-2023/Singapore-Economy-2030

Diversifying trade / trading partners has always been part of Singapore's external economic strategy.


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 4:16 PM]

Yes you are right.

Except now we need to be even more strategic to look at a fully replaceable alternative global supply chain - that can withstand a shock exit of US market.

This should be done by strategic mapping of module and parts on every facets of our trade sectors.

Should adopt similar blueprint like ITM (Industry Transformation Map) for our business and job skillssets.

We should now devise a TTM (Trade Transformation Map).


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 4:17 PM]

This is similar to our British exit in the 1960s.

From British to the world.


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 4:27 PM]

Eg. Of TTM (Trade Transformation Map) should for example lead by a MOS in say:-

IT (Digital Economy) sector 

F&B sector 

Manufacturing sector 

Energy Sector etc.


To identify:-

1. The current global trade chain and supply chain. - and the final consumption nation - US. (In dollars terms).

2. Look for alternative fully replaceable global supply chain - and the final consumption nations or middle power trade blocs. (In dollars terms).


Ensure our $1.5 trillion trade and $500 billion GDP remains intact when replacement are done.

I think if we go into details how this TTM blueprint will work out - we can easily secure our trade, business and investment.


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 4:36 PM]

Each MOS should lead and work with industry leaders to design the TTM maps for each trade sectors.

Then crystallise an action plans to shift the global supply chain.

MFA, MTI, EDB, IE enterprise will be heavily involved in this move as there is a need for Ministers to work with foreign leaders to penetrate new grounds, new markets, new suppliers, new customers.


Khai Mun L., [5/2/2025 4:36 PM]

I'm a bit worried that local politics might swing to populist votes. Similar to how trump promise the world, but makes things worse for the majority


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 4:37 PM]

That's why voters must be wise and not eventually lead to voters regret like Brexit voters and increasingly Maga voters regret as seen in the social media.


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 4:38 PM]

We need to ensure our Government has the best Ministers in the cabinet - as we need an all pervasive transformation changes in our Economic direction.

And we need all our MOS and Ministers all hand on deck to lead every industry sectors to shift this massive trade transformation to secure our future.

As serious as the British withdrawal in the 1960s.


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 4:45 PM]

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS6wX248P/

CEOs are panicking that Trump tariffs are moving their business and country into an economic disaster.


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 4:50 PM]

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS63boXSG/

US eggs $40 - after Trump say he will reduce inflation.

During Biden administration, eggs was $8 to $9.

Canada eggs is selling at $5.

The opposite happens.


xXx.SCAR.xXx, [5/2/2025 4:55 PM]

To be fair to both Biden & Trump. Egg prices rose primarily because of the bird flu outbreak. Inflation is a serious concern, yes; but for eggs / this produce, the story is more complex and industrial in nature.

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/chicken-culling-disposal-raise-concern-bird-flu-spreads-2024-07-18/

https://www.unmc.edu/healthsecurity/transmission/2025/01/14/u-s-egg-industry-sees-record-chicken-deaths-from-bird-flu-outbreak/


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 4:57 PM]

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS6wUoQsg/

Fox news produced a laundry list of products in which prices will go up after Trump tariffs - and is a long one - for maga voters.


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 4:59 PM]

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS6wMRT2k/

Almost every groceries items in the supermarket - prices shoot up.


REACH Singapore, [5/2/2025 5:01 PM]

Dear Contributors,

Please take a moment to participate in our polls 📊 and share your opinion 💭. The poll questions are pinned for easy reference, and your vote is anonymous.

We look forward to hearing your thoughts on today’s topic!

Thank you.

Megan


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 5:03 PM]

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS63gBcQM/

Groceries price shoot up as immigrants got deported by Trump.

No Americans are willing to take up jobs in the farm left by immigrants.

Farmers leave the fruits and vegetables to rot in the farm.

No workers to collect eggs and feed the chicken.


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 5:05 PM]

Trump making US in danger - because he fire too many competent federal staff that make US safe and hire incompetent staff to helm government services.

Fatal commercial planes crash is result of insufficient air controller on duty as Trump in 1st term fire many competent staff overlooking the aviation safety and Boeing manufacturing QC and safety.

Now DOGE under Elon Musk is blanket firing more federal staff enmass (like what he do in Twitter).


In business, anyhow fire - the worst outcome is bankrupt, lose money and lose jobs.

In government, anyhow fire - people can die, livelihood can be gone, security can collapse, unrest can erupt.

Play with the votes, play with their lives and their wealth.

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS6TxhJDD/


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 5:18 PM]

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS6E8qPMg/

All these immigrants that are the backbone of America blue collar workers got deported.

Now all these industries paralyse with no workers.

Bankrupt soon?


Steven Ong, [5/2/2025 5:33 PM]

IMO, SG should revisit our trading relationships to ensure that we are able to manage the volatility comes with increasing US pressures on its trading partners..we also need to protect our interests as a global logistics hub

Jun Ming, [5/2/2025 5:44 PM]

I think south east asia have good relationship with us and Singapore relationship with china is still good 

I think it will be harder to stay neutral and be friends with everyone but it is always needed to be done

REACH Singapore, [5/2/2025 5:58 PM]

📢 Topic 📢


LCL (Danny 心), [5/2/2025 6:12 PM]

https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS6wkVts7/

What America can learn from Singapore - from an American.

Yes Singapore is very well run, well govern.

Some foreign netizens say Singapore is govern by Saints.

圣人之治。


REACH Singapore, [5/2/2025 6:44 PM]

Dear Contributors,

⏰ We will be closing the chat in 15 minutes ⏰

Thank you very much for being part of our Telegram chat and participating actively.


Goodnight!

Megan 😊

REACH Singapore, [5/2/2025 6:59 PM]

Dear Contributors

We will be closing the chat for today.

Thank you very much for being part of our Telegram chat and participating actively.

Goodnight!

Megan 😊


====


Monday, February 3, 2025

REACH (Telegram) 55 - Over the course of the sitting, we will be sharing articles on the key issues discussed. Please share with us what areas you might be interested in and share your views on them.

(SK)

04 Feb 2025 (10am - 7pm)


REACH (Telegram)

REACH Singapore, [4/2/2025 9:45 AM]

Dear contributors,

Welcome back! 😊

⏰ We will be opening the chat from 10am to 7pm today. ⏰

House Rules (short version of our Terms of Use) to keep in mind:

1. Be kind and respectful. We all want to be in a safe space to share our views. 

2. Any and all threatening, abusive, vulgar or racially, religiously and ethnically objectionable content is prohibited. 

3. Consider the quiet ones among us and give them a chance to comment. 

4. No need to repeat your comment or in differnet forms (including caps) - we heard you loud and clear the first time. 

5. Let's protect each other's privacy and keep contact details in this group what it should always be - confidential. 

Full set of Terms of Use: https://www.reach.gov.sg/Participate/reach-telegram-group/REACH-Telegram-Group-Chat-Terms-of-Use/

We will strive to uphold these rules to ensure this is a safe space for all. 

Please be assured that the points made by participants during the chat are aggregated and shared with relevant agencies. 

The topic will be posted shortly. 

Thank you. 

Megan 😊

REACH Singapore, [4/2/2025 10:00 AM]

📢 Topic 📢

Parliament will sit today (4 Feb) at 12.30pm. Parliamentary questions that will be discussed include the unauthorised attempts to change residential addresses via an online service provided by the Immigration and Checkpoints Authority (ICA), monsoon surges, and a decline in literacy proficiency among older adults in Singapore.

💬 Over the course of the sitting, we will be sharing articles on the key issues discussed. Please share with us what areas you might be interested in and share your views on them.

📌 Unauthorised Address Changes on ICA Online Service

- The Immigration and Checkpoints Authority (ICA) on Saturday (Jan 11) said it had suspended an electronic service that allows the change of residential addresses online. This comes after the authority identified about 80 cases of unauthorised attempts to change registered residential addresses via a proxy available on the online service.

- The police said on Jan 17 that 13 people had been arrested so far in connection to the unauthorised address changes.

- MPs asked whether a review will be conducted on other government systems to check for similar vulnerabilities.

📌 Monsoon Surges

- The Jan 10 to 13 monsoon surge was "one of the longer and more intense" in recent years, according to the Meteorological Service Singapore. Pulau Tekong recorded the highest daily rainfall of 241.8mm on Jan 10, breaking the previous record, while during that period, the daily minimum temperatures generally ranged from about 22 to 24 degrees Celsius.

- MPs asked about the adequacy of Singapore’s drainage systems in handling monsoon surges, whether current government investments in drainage infrastructure are sufficient, and the measures to mitigate flood risks. They also inquired about steps to enhance the resilience of water and underground infrastructure against extreme weather events.

📌 Literacy Rate by OECD

- A recent study by the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development's (OECD) Programme for the International Assessment of Adult Competencies (PIAAC) revealed that Singapore’s adult literacy proficiency is below the OECD average.

- In Singapore, literacy in adults declines sharply after 35 years old, the study found, and the downward trend continues as adults age. Singaporean adults aged 55 to 65 are in 27th place - out of 31 countries - when it comes to literacy skills.

- ⁠ MPs asked about measures to enhance English proficiency and lifelong learning, including a standardized national English test for university admissions, literacy modules in continuing education, programmes to help older Singaporeans improve essential skills, and the metrics used to track their progress.

📌 Other Issues

- A Parliamentary Question was also filed on how Singapore plans to continue building ties with the US under President Trump.

- Two Bills – the Constitution of the Republic of Singapore (Amendment) Bill and the Maintenance of Racial Harmony Bill – are set for a second reading.

👉🏻 https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/unauthorised-address-changes-ica-monsoon-surge-crocodiles-data-cloning-bullying-parliament-4912676

👉🏻 https://str.sg/7E6v

👉🏻 https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/police-arrest-suspects-ica-change-addresses-unauthorised-attempts-4869916

👉🏻 https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/monsoon-surge-flooding-heavy-rain-longer-more-intense-met-service-4856676

👉🏻 https://str.sg/MnBs

👉🏻 https://www.oecd.org/en/publications/survey-of-adults-skills-2023-country-notes_ab4f6b8c-en/singapore_382e963a-en.html

👉🏻 https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/trump-tariffs-china-us-singapore-impact-4913021

----


LCL (Danny 心), [4/2/2025 10:38 AM]

1. Trump has started the trade war by levying tariffs on Canada, Mexico 25% and China 10%.

2. Wonder how will it impact us as we are a major trading Nation.

3. Both Canada & Mexico are CPTPP members.

4. China is our largest trading partner.

5. Trade war that will limit trade is detrimental to our GDP.


LCL (Danny 心), [4/2/2025 10:39 AM]

Under other issue.


LCL (Danny 心), [4/2/2025 10:43 AM]

1. Trade is 3 times our size of GDP - close to $1.5 trillion.

2. Wonder how to build relationships with Trump - when Trump policy is isolationist and not a proponent of trade.


LCL (Danny 心), [4/2/2025 10:46 AM]

3. Though we have a trade deficit with US unlike other trading Nations which are running trade surplus.

4. But Trump is unpredictable. The moment anyone enter into a negotiation with him, he will want an upper hand. We could end up worst off.


LCL (Danny 心), [4/2/2025 10:59 AM]

*Adult literacy skills*

1. I am surprised why Singapore rank so low - 27 out of 31 nations in English proficiency when our 1st working language is English language.

2. My experience tell me that our working adults are able to converse fluently with visiting business partners.

3. In addition, we are able to communicate, make presentation and produce written reports in English language to our overseas partners.

4. The OECD study outcome certainly come as a surprise.


LCL (Danny 心), [4/2/2025 11:11 AM]

1. Unauthorized address changes to hijack Singpass login credentials is certainly alarming.

2. But nabbing the hackers will be relatively easy - because any online changes will need a valid Singapore address to receive the pin number to effect the change.

3. Digital forensics trace to ip address of the hackers plus the physical address will be able to nab the hackers.

4. Because every IP address will link to a telephone number registered with the owner - whether for handphone or broadband user that will link to a fixed telephone number.


Jun Ming, [4/2/2025 11:24 AM]

I think our English is lean towards exams rather than daily usage. A Chinese family that don't speak English and blue workers will only use English when necessary.


LCL (Danny 心), [4/2/2025 11:25 AM]

Hmm ..

But it seems like OECD measure English literacy using standard English proficiency test.


Jun Ming, [4/2/2025 11:27 AM]

Singlish is something very functional on the ground. On every day usage it serve the function where everybody knows what you talking about and not much effort is needed. It somehow simplify the language


Jun Ming, [4/2/2025 11:28 AM]

And once you don't use exam English you will forget how to use it


LCL (Danny 心), [4/2/2025 11:28 AM]

Singlish if spoken I agree.

But written reports need to be  functional English proficiency. I think singlish won't be featured.


Jun Ming, [4/2/2025 11:29 AM]

But only white collar people write report


Jun Ming, [4/2/2025 11:29 AM]

Blue collar does not need to do so


LCL (Danny 心), [4/2/2025 11:29 AM]

I have never taken an English test after secondary school.

So grammar, etc - is a long lost skills.


LCL (Danny 心), [4/2/2025 11:30 AM]

Hmm...

I wonder if blue collar workers is included in the test.

Because even English speaking countries blue collar workers also don't speak or write proper English.


Jun Ming, [4/2/2025 11:31 AM]

Use grammarly


LCL (Danny 心), [4/2/2025 11:31 AM]

My grammar also may not be accurate.


LCL (Danny 心), [4/2/2025 12:03 PM]

Wonder what is the long list of countries (31) are included in the OECD study?

Does it include ASEAN and Asian countries?

If it does, I will be certainly surprised with the results because many ASEAN and Asian countries are not proficient in English language.


LCL (Danny 心), [4/2/2025 12:06 PM]

The Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) consists of 38 member countries that work together to promote economic growth, prosperity, and sustainable development. Here are the OECD member countries:

Countries by Region

*Europe (23)*

1. Austria

2. Belgium

3. Czech Republic

4. Denmark

5. Estonia

6. Finland

7. France

8. Germany

9. Greece

10. Hungary

11. Iceland

12. Ireland

13. Italy

14. Latvia

15. Lithuania

16. Luxembourg

17. Netherlands

18. Norway

19. Poland

20. Portugal

21. Slovakia

22. Slovenia

23. Sweden

*Americas (8)*

1. Canada

2. Chile

3. Colombia

4. Costa Rica

5. Mexico

6. United States

7. Peru (accession process completed, membership pending)

8. Argentina (accession process completed, membership pending)

*Asia-Pacific (7)*

1. Australia

2. Japan

3. South Korea

4. New Zealand

5. Israel

6. Turkey

7. Thailand (not a full member, but a "key partner")

Source:- Meta AI llama


LCL (Danny 心), [4/2/2025 12:08 PM]

Ironically, we are not a member of OECD.


LCL (Danny 心), [4/2/2025 12:13 PM]

Singapore has a special relationship with the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD). While Singapore is not a full member of the OECD, it has been an OECD Enhanced Engagement partner since 2007.

As an Enhanced Engagement partner, Singapore participates actively in various OECD committees and working groups, and has committed to implementing OECD standards and best practices in several areas.

In addition, Singapore has also adhered to several OECD instruments, such as the OECD Anti-Bribery Convention and the OECD Declaration on International Investment and Multinational Enterprises.

So, while Singapore is not a full member of the OECD, its Enhanced Engagement partnership status allows it to collaborate closely with the OECD and its member countries on various issues.

Source :- Meta AI llama


LCL (Danny 心), [4/2/2025 12:22 PM]

Although Singapore is not a member of the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD), it maintains a close relationship with the organization through various forms of engagement. Here are some key ways Singapore is related to the OECD:

1. Participation in OECD Activities:

   - Singapore is an active participant in OECD committees, working groups, and initiatives. It often collaborates on issues such as trade, taxation, digital economy, and environmental policies.

   - For example, Singapore has participated in the OECD's Base Erosion and Profit Shifting (BEPS) project, which aims to combat tax avoidance by multinational corporations.

2. Adoption of OECD Standards:

   - Singapore has adopted many OECD standards and best practices in areas like corporate governance, anti-corruption, and financial regulation. This alignment helps Singapore maintain its reputation as a global business hub.

3. OECD Southeast Asia Regional Programme:

   - Singapore is part of the OECD's Southeast Asia Regional Programme, which aims to strengthen ties between the OECD and Southeast Asian countries. The program focuses on regional integration, economic growth, and sustainable development.

4. Trade and Investment:

   - Singapore is a key trading partner for many OECD countries and adheres to international trade rules promoted by the OECD. It is also a signatory to the OECD-led Multilateral Instrument (MLI), which modifies tax treaties to implement BEPS measures.

5. Global Influence:

   - As a global financial and trade hub, Singapore often works with the OECD on global economic issues, such as climate change, digital transformation, and international tax cooperation.

While Singapore is not an OECD member, its active engagement with the organization reflects its commitment to global economic governance and alignment with international standards.

Source:- DeepSeek AI


LCL (Danny 心), [4/2/2025 12:28 PM]

Despite the fact that Singapore is not an OECD member - our interaction with OECD is very pervasive and critical to our national development.


LCL (Danny 心), [4/2/2025 12:29 PM]

Hence we need to find out in which areas our English language proficiency fall short.

And we need to improve.


REACH Singapore, [4/2/2025 1:00 PM]

[ Poll : Which issues are you interested in for today’s Parliament sitting? (You may choose more than one option) ]

- Unauthorised address changes using ICA online service

- Monsoon Surges

- Literacy Rate by OECD

- Singapore-US ties

- Maintenance of Racial Harmony Bill


LCL (Danny 心), [4/2/2025 1:46 PM]

1. Wonder what will be the addition or amendment to the Maintenance of Racial Harmony Bill.

2. As it currently stand, observe that interaction among the races in social settings, work settings, business settings and school settings are cordial and harmonious.

3. What other improvement are needed in the Bill?


Ethan, [4/2/2025 1:53 PM]

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/let-schools-handle-cases-of-bullying-or-fighting-without-speculating-and-jumping-in-chan-chun-sing

Strongly disagree with CCS.

Ethan, [4/2/2025 1:59 PM]

school leaders are not incentivise for bad matters to blow up as it'll impact the school grading, thus their performance. not just about bullying but any other complains be it with regards to students, teachers wellbeing/working environment, etc etc. 

if those bullying cases had not gone viral, would such thorough investigation and accountability measures been taken?

What about those bullying cases that had not gone viral, were they dealt with the same level of thoroughness in terms of investigation and respective personnel be held accountable?


LCL (Danny 心), [4/2/2025 2:09 PM]

1. Parents anxiety when their child is being bullied and the need to get updated information what recourse and what remedies are done to prevent the kid from future bullying - is reasonable.

2. But if parents take actions into own hands - by doxxing (which is against the law), take private illegal actions such as punishing the bullies physically (altercation) or other means in a fit of anger or confronting teachers handling the case in an aggressive manner - will be counter productive and in fact have a brush against the law


REACH Singapore, [4/2/2025 2:18 PM]

📢 Topic 📢

Ethan, [4/2/2025 2:18 PM]

depends on what actions, you do not need to do anything thats blatantly illegal to bring awareness about the case, to ensure accountability is appropriately given. 

This is not just with regards to bullying but the fundamental culture of mgmt not wanting things to blow up and just give you a standard reply expecting that the matter will go away. 

by nature if things are handled well, nobody would want to get involved. 

Just like if a building is burning down, cops catching criminals, chef cooking your food or bus driver driving the bus that gets you to ur destination. nobody wants to get involved by default but if they perceive that its not being handled well, they will WANT to get involved


LCL (Danny 心), [4/2/2025 2:26 PM]

1. Well my child got bullied when he was in primary school.

2. My child quite withdrawn and until I found out what happens, before he confide into me.

3. At that time it is close to his PSLE exam.

4. He told me a few classmates always make fun of him, say he stink, his uniform look ugly and play pranks on him.

5. My response is I feel angry initially, but I keep my cool instead of jumping into actions demanding the bullies get punished and stop harassing my son.

6. I check with him will it impact his concentration on his PSLE exam?

He say no. 

He is not bothered by it.

7. I say good.

Then no need to get angry and make a big fuss to his teacher.

After the PSLE exam, he will be out of the school.

8. Indeed he did well in his PSLE and progress into secondary school and no longer facing issue with bullying as the students are more focus on studying and making friends.


Ethan, [4/2/2025 2:28 PM]

genuinely happy for you and your kid, he definitely handled it well ❤️🙏

Ethan, [4/2/2025 2:28 PM]

genuinely meant it


LCL (Danny 心), [4/2/2025 2:30 PM]

So sometimes, it is always important to keep cool to assess the situation.

A boiling water cannot see what is inside the water and when taking actions will scald ourselves and others.

An angry mind, cannot see the clarity of the water.

Only a cool calm mind can see the clarity of the water (situation) at the right temperature - and adopt a wholesome solution without resorting to extreme actions that can impact our kids, ourselves and worsen the situation.

We may even get ourselves into trouble with the law.


REACH Singapore, [4/2/2025 2:36 PM]

Parents should let schools handle fighting or bullying cases, and avoid jumping in: Chan Chun Sing

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/let-schools-handle-cases-of-bullying-or-fighting-without-speculating-and-jumping-in-chan-chun-sing

W Goo, [4/2/2025 2:42 PM]

I can't agree with his view. CCS did not address on the issue and no solution is given, instead focusing on his area and asking parents to trust them.

W Goo, [4/2/2025 2:57 PM]

Something like ECDA to preschool might help. We need an external agency to monitor this type of matters. People will only move when rating is involved.

W Goo, [4/2/2025 2:59 PM]

I had an incident and it was easily brush off due to regulations etc. Until I wanted to escalate to ECDA and will they start looking at it. In the end, it is what I expected. Imagine I let it off due to regulations and trusted them?

REACH Singapore, [4/2/2025 3:12 PM]

ICA detects 99 unauthorised address change attempts on e-service, 71 of them successful:

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/ica-detects-99-unauthorised-address-change-e-service-including-71-successful-4914951

Jun Ming, [4/2/2025 3:32 PM]

I do not agree. The thing is when  after telling the incident to school, not particularly this incident, and action might have already taken but yet the students continue to do bad things and harassment, I think there's a need for parents to take further action to pressure the school.

Jun Ming, [4/2/2025 3:34 PM]

I not sure if physical punishment is allowed these days but I think it needs to be there as a deterrent. A warning to them.

Jun Ming, [4/2/2025 3:36 PM]

No need to physically Cane but a stick to warn them before things go harewire

Jun Ming, [4/2/2025 3:37 PM]

So the school can handle it more properly and work with parents on discipline manner of the child

Jun Ming, [4/2/2025 3:40 PM]

Cause altercation can start from having verbal fights which needs to be intervane.

Jun Ming, [4/2/2025 3:41 PM]

Would Moe provide allied educator to be small group of student mentor ie 10 people so student have a channel to feedback the problems they have. Instead throwing 40 students to form teachers

REACH Singapore, [4/2/2025 4:07 PM]

📢 Topic 📢

REACH Singapore, [4/2/2025 5:15 PM]

Singapore unlikely to be hit by direct US tariffs but may still be impacted: Vivian 

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/parliament-singapore-unlikely-to-be-hit-by-direct-us-tariffs-but-may-still-be-impacted

G, [4/2/2025 5:59 PM]

What's the difference if the bullying occurs in school or outside school? 

Should the police be involved early on even if bullying occurs in school compounds? Do the police have authority on MOE premises?

REACH Singapore, [4/2/2025 6:01 PM]

📢 Topic 📢


LCL (Danny 心), [4/2/2025 6:13 PM]

1. US GDP is currently at $27.8 trillion.

2. Whereas the Global GDP is at $110 trillion.

3. So which means there are $82.2 trillion global market that we can tap.

4. As Trump is busy tariffing other countries, we should stay focus to look for market opportunities with the rest of the world to make up for the lost through recalibration of our trade and global supply chain.

5. I think it will pay to restructure our trade chain for this 4 years - to ensure we are more resilient and back up on alternative supply chain to avoid relying on 1 traditional global supply chain that can be disrupted when geopolitical tensions deepen.

Muhamed Shadiq, [4/2/2025 6:38 PM]
The Minister for Education should consider reinstating Allied Educator (Teaching & Learning) track. AED T&L helps to bridge between within classroom and outside classroom interventions. One of its job roles is to provide pastoral care and support to students. Presently, schools have the school Counsellors and Student Welfare Officers to deal with behavioural issues. While school counsellors and SWOs step in when issues have occurred, the AED T&L could help to detect simmering issues in the classroom and act to deescalate since they are tagged with the subject teachers in the classroom. If issues require to be escalated, they can provide the necessary manpower to "extract" the students involved to the counsellors, SWOs or the disciplinary team. Thus minimising disruption in the ongoing lessons. I think AED T&L could be the missing piece in the school classroom support ecosystem.

LCL (Danny 心), [4/2/2025 6:43 PM]
Good comments.

REACH Singapore, [4/2/2025 6:41 PM]
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/150-million-to-be-spent-on-drainage-upgrading-works-in-2025-to-guard-against-floods
REACH Singapore, [4/2/2025 6:46 PM]
Dear Contributors,
⏰ We will be closing the chat in 15 minutes ⏰
Thank you very much for being part of our Telegram chat and participating actively.
Goodnight!
Megan 😊
REACH Singapore, [4/2/2025 7:02 PM]
Dear Contributors
We will be closing the chat for today.
Thank you very much for being part of our Telegram chat and participating actively.
Goodnight!
Megan 😊

====