REACH - 45. Internet infrastructure will be upgraded to improve Internet services in residential areas (SK)
9 Apr 2020 (12 pm - 10pm)

REACH
[12:15 pm, 09/04/2020] +65 9150 9127: Dear REACH contributors,
Welcome back to our discussion :)
Our chat will be open till 10pm today.
📢Topic📢
In response to the new "circuit breaker" measures, our internet infrastructure will be upgraded to improve Internet services in residential areas. More news and entertainment programmes will be also made available free to viewers🙂
Does this news bring you more cheer during this period of "circuit-breaker" measures? What are your plans for this weekend as you spend time at home?
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid19-imda-initiatives-telco-free-tv-channels-circuit-breaker-12621036

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[12:18 pm, 09/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Mask up if people need to go out in public.

[12:18 pm, 09/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Major Indian cities make mask-wearing compulsory amid coronavirus fears
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/major-indian-cities-mask-wearing-compulsory-covid-19-coronavirus-12623080

[12:55 pm, 09/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
How does upgraded Internet Infrastructure help us to stay home in this circuit breaker duration?

(1) Fiber to the Home (Next generation broadband) is implemented earlier.

(2) Telcos have rolled out fiber to each home and Mediacorps has delivered Digital TV with set-top box and broadband wireless WiFI is included in the bundled digital TV, fixed phones and wifi broadband.
We can see :-
a. Digital TV - through the fiber / set-top box conversion.
b. Received WiFi - for laptop internet surfing and smartphone surfing
c. Fixed phone - can call through the digital fiber

(3) Not sure what additional services are upgraded and provided to us at residential areas.
a. Probably Telco need to upgrade the backend bandwidth by aggregating their bandwidth - due to increase bandwidth demand from home to prevent congestion.

b. Provide more entertainment content to the home eg. more movies or drama serial?

(4) Just hope that redundancy are build into the Internet infrastructure to the home - and will not break down or disrupted - as many people are working at home or receiving digital entertainment from home.
Any internet disruption - will cause people to come out into the street again.

Carol
[12:59 pm, 09/04/2020] : How I wish we have a nation game that every family play online...
E.g Monopoly, Words,  Sims Singapore.  🤔
Or guessing games on air where everyone can participate.

Carol
[1:05 pm, 09/04/2020] : Internet setup may not applicable to old folk who stay alone...  Free TV Chanel is good especially hk drama in canto.  Or Taiwan variety show.  Some oldies Channels are good for them...  They only use remote to select.

[1:17 pm, 09/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Today Clarke quay not crowded.
So spaceout is working properly.

[2:01 pm, 09/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
(1) Actually, keeping the local transmission down is everyone's immediate concern.

(2) With 100 over cases reported everyday that are locally transmitted and 72 unlink cases --- means that there are quite a number of mild asyptomatic cases in our Community that go undetected - but keep spreading the virus around.

(3) Only by keeping them away from the Community - such as stay at home to work or study - and not loitering around until they no longer infectious ---- is the most urgent tasks.

(4) Monitoring crowded areas is one important task - and keeping crowd away from crowded areas once detected crowd is forming.

(5) Yesterday news reported that some patients from private hospitals are moving covid-19 recovering patients to Sing Expo ---- indicates that their facilites are increasingly being overwhelmed --- which is not a good sign.

(6) Also by studying the infection curve, the recovery cases are not catching up with 14 days infected and treated.

(7) So everyone should play a part to do the right things to prevent community spreading and stop local transmission ---- in order for this circuit measures to be successful.


A private message
Mike GC Shee
[2:03 pm, 09/04/2020] :
Thanks, Danny.
Appreciate.
Very well summary.

[2:05 pm, 09/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
One for All.
All-for-one.
No choice, everyone must do their part.

A private message
Mike GC Shee
[2:05 pm, 09/04/2020] : 👍👍👍

[2:35 pm, 09/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
My close friend contribution :-
(1) Attached is an image that shows a nurse who works in healthcare settings.
(Caveat :- unable to determine if the image is real or fake.)

(2) Nevertheless, we are sharing the image to reinforce an important message :-
- to remind everyone frequent and thorough cleansing of hands and face even after people wear mask in public.

- Facial mask is not a silver bullet. Important to wash hands and face thoroughly and frequently.

- Nevertheless unlike a hospital settings where virus load are heavy, we can see the luminous light (are the virus load) that spill onto the nurse forehead, nose bridge and the whole surface area on the face mask.

- However in public, if people meet someone who is sick or asympotmatic - the virus load is not as heavy as in hospital - thus mask is still useful to offer protection though not a silver bullet or foolproof to prevent infection ---- but still useful. So don't forget to wash that washable mask.

[6:31 pm, 09/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
My close friend contribution :-
(1) With reference to the attached image, in addition to thoroughly wash the face mask and the face after wearing the face mask, people should also wash their hands thoroughtly with soap or sanitiser.

(2) By washing the hands for at least 30 seconds, will ensure the viruses are properly cleanse.

Joeann

[6:34 pm, 09/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Ha ha ha ha...

[6:52 pm, 09/04/2020]COVID-19:  ☸️  Danny 心:
NTUC FairPrice urges shoppers to wear face masks
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-ntuc-fairprice-customers-wear-face-masks-12624460

[6:55 pm, 09/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Still about 50% of people walking on the road don't wear mask.

Wonder what they do with the mask issue by the government, used as decoration?

Now our President, PM and Cabinet Ministers all wear masks.

Wonder why people appearing in public still don't want to wear masks in public when local transmission is so high?

Eunice Chia
[6:56 pm, 09/04/2020] : Because they don't think they are carrying the virus?  😷

Joeann
[6:58 pm, 09/04/2020] : Because...... they think they strong.

[7:00 pm, 09/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
These people must always government make it a law before people start to act.

Caleb
[6:58 pm, 09/04/2020] : Has NTUC start selling the reusable mask?

Vana
[6:58 pm, 09/04/2020] : Yupp! Awhile ago I have seen them selling? Same design as the one they are giving out

XaniceAfcai
[6:58 pm, 09/04/2020] : Last mth, I saw it selling at $4.90

Stella

[7:28 pm, 09/04/2020] : I bought this from ntuc. It is easier to breathe through this mask (from ntuc) than the black cloth mask I collected from community centre.

Suma
[7:41 pm, 09/04/2020] : https://medium.com/@jurgenthoelen/belgian-dutch-study-why-in-times-of-covid-19-you-can-not-walk-run-bike-close-to-each-other-a5df19c77d08

Stella
[7:54 pm, 09/04/2020] : Would it be possible and better to make all who need to be out of their home to wear mask (otherwise warning->fine->jail) . And if they cannot be wearing mask due to exercise, then they need to submit by whatsapp/other app for outdoor exercise time limited to 2 hrs max per day (or other hours deem approp by moh).

Rama
[7:55 pm, 09/04/2020] : Government to address this

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[7:23 pm, 09/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
 Joint contribution with my close friend :-

(1) Question :-
Wonder why people appearing in public still don't want to wear masks in public when local transmission is so high?

(2) Answer :-
Some people unaware of the dangers, some holding on to older belief (if not medical mask, it's useless), some feel Discomfort wearing it, some refuse to do it as silent protest, and some are self- centred (this is my own business)...

(3) Respond :-
Yes this are all the problems.
That's why if don't legislate this people don't move.
Soft approach don't work on them.
This people don't know that as long as just one person got it, everyone can get it.
And the whole economy is devastated.
And the whole community's lives are at risk.

Timothy Low
[7:54 pm, 09/04/2020] : 我国新增287起冠病病例 过半来自S11榜鹅客工宿舍感染群
https://www.zaobao.com/realtime/singapore/story20200409-1044261?utm_source=ZB_iPhone&utm_medium=share

287 new cases today

Dongliang
[7:58 pm, 09/04/2020] : All hell break loose.

Joeann
[7:58 pm, 09/04/2020] : Dong dong chiang

[7:59 pm, 09/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
People can wait and take their own sweet time.
But virus won't wait.
They will hit at the weakest link.

Dongliang
[8:01 pm, 09/04/2020] : Singapore version of “Diamond express”

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[7:56 pm, 09/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: https://youtu.be/1z6gfF6mR4I
[7:56 pm, 09/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
My close friend contribution -

(1) Drones adopted to monitor social distancing in Bukit Timah Reserve.

(2) That means if social distancing is breached, there is good reason for Authority to step in to regulate the crowd.

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[8:08 pm, 09/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: See 1 mall with full max crowd.

Min
[8:43 pm, 09/04/2020] : Can we make mask wearing mandatory please!!!
[8:43 pm, 09/04/2020] : It shouldn’t be optional unless you have some health issues and can’t wear


Eugene
[9:02 pm, 09/04/2020] : Can I suggest make masks compulsory for people who are stepping out of their home as there may be some inconsiderate people that may not wear masks when they are not well and thus spreading virus to others ard them

Min
[9:03 pm, 09/04/2020] : Yeah! I think a number of us support masks!
[9:03 pm, 09/04/2020] : Masks only work when everyone especially the ones who normally don’t care about these stuff wear them. 🙏
[9:04 pm, 09/04/2020] : what’s the point if only half the people wear them and those are already the more conscientious (assumption)?
[9:04 pm, 09/04/2020] : 🤷🏻‍♀️
[9:04 pm, 09/04/2020]  If the ones that don’t wear them are more “easy going” and relaxed
[9:04 pm, 09/04/2020] : How do we get everyone to wear them if majority aren’t wearing

Stella
[9:05 pm, 09/04/2020] : Fine $$$
[9:05 pm, 09/04/2020] : Stay home
[9:06 pm, 09/04/2020] : Then must wear mask

David Murugan
[9:09 pm, 09/04/2020] : Those who never wear must charge them under the diseases act, $10k or jail or both. All will comply I think.

Dongliang
[9:11 pm, 09/04/2020] : I was asking a colleague today why he did not wear mask, he said, if everyone is wearing he doesn’t have to wear. I said too bad, many people are having the same thoughts as you so your wish will never come true.

Liyana
[9:15 pm, 09/04/2020] :
Singapore Food Authority advisory on all F&B employees to wear mask
https://www.sfa.gov.sg/covid-19/advisory-on-wearing-of-mask-or-face-shield-by-employees-in-food-and-beverage-(f-b)-establishments

Jun
[9:27 pm, 09/04/2020] : Give the issue of masks a couple more days. The concept of Social Proof will pressure recalcitrant citizens to conform eventually. If not, then the G can come down hard on masks.

Leonard Lau
[9:39 pm, 09/04/2020] : The spit mask is out of stock in the market.. I understand the SINGAPORE Food Assoc. Is doing something about it since they knew their turf .
Let’s await them .

REACH
[10:41 pm, 09/04/2020] : [Sent by Gov.sg]
COVID-19: 9 Apr update
New cases: 287
- Imported: 3
- Local cases (linked): 236 (202 cases linked to clusters at foreign worker dorms; 34 linked to non-dorm clusters/cases)
- Pending contact tracing: 48
Total cases: 1910
- Hospitalised: 884 (29 in ICU)
- In isolation, private hospitals*: 559
- Fatalities: 6
- Total discharged: 460 (Discharged today: 54)
More: go.gov.sg/moh9apr
*Patients doing well but still testing positive for the virus are moved to Community Isolation Facilities and private hospitals
Managing infection clusters in foreign worker dorms
- Need to prevent cross-infection from dorms to rest of population
- Govt working with dorm operators to ensure effective management of all dorms
Public health measures:
- Active screening and testing
- Movements minimised to prevent further spread
- Reduce number in dorms: workers who are well and work in essential services moved out
go.gov.sg/fw-9apr


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MOH
54 MORE CASES DISCHARGED; 287 NEW CASES OF COVID-19 INFECTION CONFIRMED
 9TH APR 2020

          54 more cases[1] of COVID-19 infection have been discharged from hospitals or community isolation facilities. In all, 460 have fully recovered from the infection and have been discharged from hospitals or community isolation facilities.

2.            As of 9 April 2020, 12pm, the Ministry of Health (MOH) has confirmed and verified an additional 287 cases of COVID-19 infection in Singapore. The breakdown is as follows:

Imported Cases 3

Linked to known clusters   217

Linked to other cases   19

Pending contact tracing   48

Total   287

3.            Among the linked cases, 202 cases were linked to clusters at foreign worker dormitories and 34 were linked to non-dormitory clusters or other cases.

Links between previous cases found

4.            Further epidemiological investigations and contact tracing have uncovered links between previously announced and new cases.

a)            Five of the earlier confirmed cases (Cases 1379, 1380, 1556, 1558 and 1564) have now been linked to a new cluster at Shaw Lodge (12 Shaw Road).

b)            166 additional cases are linked to the cluster at S11 Dormitory @ Punggol (2 Seletar North Link), which has a total of 283 confirmed cases[2] now.

c)            11 additional cases are linked to the cluster at Westlite Toh Guan dormitory (18 Toh Guan Road East), which has a total of 49 confirmed cases[3] now.

d)            Two additional cases are linked to the cluster at Toh Guan Dormitory (19A Toh Guan Road East), which has a total of 25 confirmed cases now (Cases 963, 1079, 1106, 1148, 1150, 1195, 1254, 1273, 1262, 1263, 1271, 1274, 1276, 1347, 1395, 1453, 1469, 1475, 1374, 1434, 1446, 1582, 1599, 1627 and 1841).

e)            14 additional cases are linked to the cluster at Sungei Tengah Lodge (500 Old Choa Chu Kang Road), which has a total of 43 confirmed cases now (Cases 1054, 1077, 1124, 1267, 1306, 1319, 1342, 1362, 1367, 1388, 1396, 1411, 1430, 1438, 1459, 1474, 1476, 1481, 1482, 1492, 1496, 1497, 1498, 1502, 1527, 1544, 1550, 1586, 1587, 1596, 1602, 1603, 1653, 1688, 1699, 1709, 1718, 1719, 1705, 1737, 1826, 1827 and 1843).

f)             17 additional cases are linked to the cluster at Tampines Dormitory (2 Tampines Place), which has a total of 38 cases now (Cases 1049, 1140 , 1193, 1226, 1299, 1261, 1313, 1314, 1327, 1373, 1410,1440, 1442, 1454, 1457, 1458, 1479, 1571, 1576, 1581, 1608, 1624, 1625, 1629, 1632, 1633, 1634, 1635, 1637, 1638, 1639, 1641, 1661, 1663, 1667, 1668, 1692, 1694).

g)            Two additional cases are linked to the cluster at Cochrane Lodge I (51 Admiralty Road West), which has a total of nine cases now (Cases 1018, 1144, 1339, 1406, 1418, 1419, 1437, 1645 and 1655).

h)            One additional case is linked to the cluster at Kranji Lodge (12 Kranji Road), which has a total of seven confirmed cases now (Cases 880, 1190, 1241, 1506, 1519, 1520 and 1630).

i)             Two additional cases are linked to the cluster at a dormitory at 55 Sungei Kadut Loop, which has a total of seven cases now (Cases 868, 972, 974, 1356, 1510, 1549 and 1551).

j)             10 additional cases are linked to the cluster at a construction site at Project Glory (50 Market Street), which has a total of 37 confirmed cases now (Cases 956, 967, 1019, 1078, 1079, 1104, 1120,  1124, 1149, 1162, 1164, 1181, 1191, 1226, 1263, 1271, 1273, 1341, 1346, 1349, 1421, 1448, 1449, 1485, 1486, 1514, 1531, 1555, 1575, 1576, 1577, 1629, 1642, 1652, 1692, 1694 and 1715).

k)            One additional case is linked to the cluster at a construction site at 6 Battery Road, which has a total of five cases now (Cases 1049, 1012,1183, 1184 and 1312).

l)             Seven additional cases are linked to the cluster at Mustafa Centre (145 Syed Alwi Road), which has a total of 57 confirmed cases[4] now.

m)          Five additional cases are linked to the cluster at Keppel Shipyard (51 Pioneer Sector 1), which has a total of 17 cases now (Cases 878, 898, 907, 1076, 1158, 1172, 1270, 1324, 1336, 1495, 1505, 1529, 1626, 1695, 1636, 1651 and 1739).

5.            Contact tracing is underway for unlinked cases to establish any links to previous cases or travel history to affected countries or regions. Please refer to the MOH website for the situation report (www.moh.gov.sg/covid-19/situation-report).

Cases from public healthcare sector

Case 1566 (Announced on 8 April)

6.            Case 1566 is a 27 year-old female Singapore Citizen who has no recent travel history to affected countries or regions. She reported onset of symptoms on 4 April, and subsequent test results confirmed COVID-19 infection on 7 April. She is currently warded in an isolation room at Singapore General Hospital (SGH).

7.            Prior to hospital admission, she had gone to work as a Programme Coordinator at SGH.

Update on condition of confirmed cases

8.            To date, a total of 460 cases have fully recovered from the infection and have been discharged from hospitals or community isolation facilities.

9.            Of the 884 confirmed cases who are still in hospital, most are stable or improving. 29 are in critical condition in the intensive care unit. 559 cases who are clinically well but still test positive for COVID-19 are isolated and cared for at Concord International Hospital, Mount Elizabeth Hospital, Gleneagles Hospital, Mount Alvernia Hospital, Mount Elizabeth Novena Hospital and the Community Isolation Facility at D’Resort NTUC. Six have passed away from complications due to COVID-19 infection.

10.          The cause of death for Case 1604 is ischaemic heart disease, and is not due to complications from COVID-19 infection.

Update on contact tracing for confirmed cases

11.          Contact tracing for the confirmed cases is ongoing. Once identified, MOH will closely monitor all close contacts. As a precautionary measure, they will be quarantined for 14 days from their last exposure to the patient. In addition, all other identified contacts who have a low risk of being infected will be under active surveillance, and will be contacted daily to monitor their health status.

12.          As of 9 April 2020, 12pm, MOH has identified 20,008 close contacts who have been quarantined. Of these, 5,642 are currently quarantined, and 14,366 have completed their quarantine.

MINISTRY OF HEALTH
9 APRIL 2020

[1]  Cases 152, 162, 193, 202, 209, 221, 238, 245, 299, 317, 348, 354, 356, 363, 378, 389, 403, 405, 407, 418, 420, 429, 446, 481, 487, 528, 544, 578, 581, 589, 630, 664, 673, 677, 687, 706, 707, 708, 712, 726, 731, 746, 764, 777, 804, 810, 825, 867, 872, 998, 1033, 1052, 1059 and 1390.
[2]  Cases 826, 829, 852, 860, 946, 947, 966, 979, 982, 993, 1035, 1039, 1047, 1050, 1061, 1066, 1074, 1083, 1084, 1089, 1107, 1108, 1110, 1111, 1112, 1117, 1118, 1119, 1126, 1135, 1138, 1145, 1153, 1155, 1156, 1171, 1173, 1174, 1185, 1186, 1187, 1198, 1213, 1222, 1223, 1224, 1225, 1228, 1232, 1236, 1269, 1275, 1278, 1279, 1280, 1281, 1283, 1284, 1285, 1286, 1287, 1288, 1289, 1290, 1291, 1292, 1293, 1300, 1302, 1304, 1307, 1308, 1310, 1318, 1321,1329, 1334, 1344, 1350, 1351, 1353, 1354, 1355, 1357, 1358, 1363, 1364, 1365, 1372, 1381, 1382, 1439, 1445, 1455, 1462, 1468, 1470, 1471, 1509, 1512, 1523, 1554, 1572, 1573, 1574, 1580, 1584, 1590, 1591, 1594, 1598, 1600, 1601, 1605, 1606, 1614, 1617, 1623, 1515, 1545, 1611, 1613, 1619, 1620, 1657, 1658, 1659, 1675, 1676, 1677, 1678, 1679, 1681, 1682, 1685, 1691, 1693, 1701, 1713, 1714, 1729, 1734, 1736, 1746, 1748, 1749, 1750, 1752, 1753, 1754, 1755, 1758, 1759, 1760, 1761, 1762, 1763, 1764, 1765, 1766, 1767, 1768, 1769, 1770, 1771, 1772, 1773, 1774, 1775, 1776, 1777, 1778, 1779, 1780, 1781, 1782, 1783, 1784, 1785, 1786, 1787, 1788, 1789, 1790, 1791, 1792, 1793, 1794, 1795,1796, 1797, 1798, 1799, 1800, 1801, 1802, 1803, 1804, 1805, 1806, 1807, 1808, 1809, 1810, 1811, 1812, 1813, 1814, 1815, 1816, 1817, 1818, 1819, 1820, 1821, 1822, 1823, 1824, 1829, 1846, 1847, 1848 1849, 1850, 1851, 1852, 1853, 1854, 1855, 1856, 1857, 1858, 1859, 1860, 1861, 1862, 1863, 1864, 1865, 1866, 1867, 1868, 1869, 1870, 1871, 1872, 1873, 1874, 1875, 1876, 1877, 1878, 1879, 1880 1881, 1882, 1883, 1884, 1885, 1886, 1887, 1888, 1889, 1890, 1891, 1892, 1893, 1894, 1895, 1896, 1897, 1898, 1899, 1900, 1901, 1902, 1903, 1904, 1905, 1906, 1907, 1908, 1909 and 1910.
[3]  Cases 655, 875, 922, 924, 925, 926, 934, 977, 1011, 1012, 1054, 1062, 1068, 1072, 1100, 1101, 1113, 1176, 1194, 1202, 1216, 1218, 1238, 1251, 1252, 1253, 1255, 1256, 1330, 1391, 1401, 1441, 1466, 1467, 1400, 1508, 1511, 1522, 1616, 1621, 1673, 1674, 1680, 1683, 1684, 1730, 1745, 1747 and 1756.
[4]  Cases 616, 788, 866, 908, 911, 938, 1001, 1015, 1024, 1025, 1026, 1046, 1056, 1093, 1096, 1127, 1169, 1180, 1188, 1189 (son of 1188), 1199, 1200, 1201, 1209, 1214, 1219, 1246, 1259, 1260, 1277, 1282, 1295, 1315, 1316, 1326, 1340, 1343, 1361, 1385, 1387, 1417, 1431, 1433, 1435, 1443, 1422, 1487, 1489, 1507, 1528, 1628, 1690, 1700, 1708, 1717, 1732 and 1742.

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REACH - 44. Inter-agency taskforce to ensure well-being of foreign workers and to improve their living conditions (SK)
8 Apr 2020 (10 am - 10pm)

REACH
[11:02 am, 08/04/2020] : 📢 Topic 📢
Dear Contributors,
Inter-agency taskforce consisting of MOM, MOH, NEA, SAF, SPF, Migrant Workers’ Centre and more to provide enhanced support to foreign workers and dormitory operators.
What do you think of the inter-agency taskforce set up to ensure the well-being of foreign workers and to improve their living conditions?
👉🏼 https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/manpower/coronavirus-inter-agency-taskforce-to-provide-support-to-foreign-workers?xtor=CS3-18&utm_source=STiPhone&utm_medium=share&utm_term=2020-04-07%2022%3A04%3A39
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Ron Ho
[11:41 am, 08/04/2020] : Dear Reach, this is a good move by adding SPF and MOD to the task force. I am assuming they will be present at site. As I had commented two days ago, confining such a huge amount of people like 17,000 within one premise over half a month period could present a security risk. In addition, I would like to suggest a thorough audit be carried out by BCD and SCD to see if building, safety and other weaknesses can be identified and resolved. I am glad our government is giving priority to these huge places of abode.

Mike
[11:45 am, 08/04/2020] : Observed a growing number of active Covid-19 Coranvirus Clusters in the Dormitories.

During this period of Circuit Breaker (CB) from 07 April 2020 to 04 May 2020, it is critically to stem out any growing number of active virus clusters to prevent further Community transmission of the virus spread with so many Community Clusters growing in Singapore.

It is very important to flatten the curve and to contain the growing situation as much as possible.

This inter-agency taskforce is most necessary to ensure that the living conditions of the foreign domestic workers (FDWs) are well taken care of and to improve the living conditions further.

It is necessary to establish peace and order knowing that their health and the Taskforce and people on site are well taken care of too.

Thank you.

[12:20 pm, 08/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Today as of now, glad to see that the mall are not crowded.
Good that people are kept away from the malls and reduced the risk of local transmission.

[12:28 pm, 08/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Parks and jogging track also not crowded.

[12:34 pm, 08/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Yesterday 103 are local transmission.

41 are unlink cases.

This indicates that community spreading are still brewing and not contain.

Every one has to take circuit breaker measures seriously and ensure that we succeed to flatten the infection curve this few coming days or weeks.

Else we will have failed and all the government budget and reserves as well as all the business and workers jobs sacrifices will be wasted.

Min
[12:44 pm, 08/04/2020] : Actually I'm wondering say 2000 of 20000 workers get infected. What happens next, can't contact trace anymore. What is the next plan of action in a mass infection situation like this?

[1:34 pm, 08/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
The purpose of this circuit breaker is to break the local transmission chain.

Within 1 month all those contracted with symptoms will have surface and send for treatment.

All those who are mild asymptomatic will have healed and not infectious.

Thus every one will have to treat this circuit breaker seriously and not infect one another.

People should stay away from malls and crowded areas.

China Wuhan now is clear of viruses because of the lockdown.

We also must treat this seriously.

Mike
[1:39 pm, 08/04/2020] : Well said and detailed. Agreed.

This Circuit Breaker (CB) is very important. Else, more stringent measures may follow suit if the figures are not coming down by near ot by 04 May 2020.

Let's not have a Power Trip or Total Shutdown.

The impact will be unimaginable and huge.

Let's work these through.

Thank you.

Eugene
[1:35 pm, 08/04/2020] : Took the public transport this morning and theres seems to be only a minor improvement. I think there are some companies out there who are not IMPLEMENTING WFH even though they can
[1:35 pm, 08/04/2020] : Hope MOM cna step up enforcement

Zie Chon
[1:36 pm, 08/04/2020] : Yeah in terms of proportion of population Singapore infection numbers/rate is higher than a few Chinese cities. Really need people to batten down.
[1:36 pm, 08/04/2020] : It's a luxury that we can move freely for necessities at individual level, shouldn't abuse it.

[1:37 pm, 08/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: COVID-19:
Man, 71, arrested after he insisted on eating at void deck, refused to leave
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-man-arrested-void-deck-eating-police-refused-leave-12620530

[2:03 pm, 08/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
(1) I think the inter-agencies effort to ensure well-beings of foreign workers dorm - is to ensure orderly behavior during this quarantine period - as many have been infected.

(2) Ensure well-beings of foreign workers to ensure they are properly quarantined and those infected treated.

(3) Ensure those not infected are separated and not get infected.

(4) Give assurance to foreign workers that they will be well-fed, keep occupied with some entertainment (eg. access to their handphone to surf net, tv etc) - though no crowding with friends in the dorm to prevent spread.

(5) Give assurance that their pay is still intact?
(Yesterday, i saw 2 foreign workers separately --- feel very loss and sad - one in a bus-stop sitting there for a long time.
And another at a bench watching his handphone. But can see he is in despair).
--- As long as they knew that they can still feed their family ---- I think they will be less likely to become disorderly).
--- But no work, still got pay also not very right ----- Ai dont know what is the best way forward .......

(6) Also notice that SAF and Police are involved --- means prep for any mass disturbance ......

Blue and White Flag Guy (my 1st disciple - a Christian)
[2:23 pm, 08/04/2020] : 3. It's a new way to defuse the situation, courtesy of @Phyllis​!

Zie Chon (new guy just join)
[2:25 pm, 08/04/2020] : No. 18. Confuse and dissolve, Phyllis Art of WhatsApp

Phyllis (my 3rd disciple - a Christian)
[2:25 pm, 08/04/2020] : Are you Zen Master's disciple?!!?

Zie Chon (new guy just join)
[2:26 pm, 08/04/2020] : Hmm... actually I don't know what my disciples call me behind my back.

[3:03 pm, 08/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
My close friend's appeal :-
With local transimission becoming widespread, personal responsibility to help stop the transmission is now very heavy on every individual.

We just need to comply with the rules and endure this period.

If a few people breaks the rule and transmission persists, everyone will be punished further to suffer even greater loss and stiffer measures.

Please, please, please stay home.

REACH
[4:15 pm, 08/04/2020] : Coronavirus: New $30m grant launched to speed up local production of eggs, vegetables and fish
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/coronavirus-new-30m-grant-launched-to-speed-up-local-production-of-eggs-vegetables-and?xtor=CS3-18&utm_source=STiPhone&utm_medium=share&utm_term=2020-04-08%2015%3A04%3A34

[7:54 pm, 08/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
(1) If Singapore can ramp up local production in eggs, vegetables and fish - I think in future Singapore can also ramp up production in meat on pork, chicken, mutton and beef as well as shrimp, sotong etc

(2) Why leh? Because Singapore is also doing cell-culture production of meat in chicken, beef, pork and in future mutton, shrimp, sotong etc - in the mince-form.
When we succeed in cell-culture meat, we can go on to do tissue-re-engineering to make it look exactly like the real meat.

(3) If Singapore food laboratory succeeded in doing so - then we can achieve self-sufficiency in our food production - not only in eggs, vegetables and fish - but also chicken, beef, pork and in future mutton, shrimp, sotong etc

Alvin
[7:58 pm, 08/04/2020] : Danny reminded me something.
Why only target of 30%? I know we don't necessarily consume the excess eggs, veges, etc but can't we sell them?
Any excess capacity is a boon to us. And yes following what Danny mentioned, why don't we go into other produce and meat as well?
We should aim bigger and higher. Rare events like coronavirus (ie Black Swans) are far and few between but their impact is great and all it takes is for one major impacting event to wipe out our food stocks. Low probability, high impact: we must prepare for this. Should look at other sectors as well and buff them up. My 2.14 cents

Sam
[8:00 pm, 08/04/2020] : The reason is quite obvious. Malaysian egg cost 10 cent one. Thai egg travel by air cost 30 cents. If you want to produce one in Singapore, the cost probably much higher. Question is when egg is abundant, who is going to pay for the expensive one.
[8:01 pm, 08/04/2020] : The is the same argument for making face mask when you can buy from China cheaply.
[8:01 pm, 08/04/2020] : Singapore do what we can do best.
[8:01 pm, 08/04/2020] : High human capital value added services.

[8:04 pm, 08/04/2020] : Also, another issue. Who is going to rear chicken? Are you going to ask your children and grandchildren going into agriculture when even Chinese are getting the people to move up the chain?
[8:09 pm, 08/04/2020] : And of course we have the big problem to go into agriculture to be self sufficient. We just don't have enough land. Even with vertical farming, we have constraints. How high can we build?

Alvin
[8:03 pm, 08/04/2020] : and therefore we are at the mercy of others when they can't export to us anymore

Alvin
[8:12 pm, 08/04/2020] : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm7t70G95fg
[8:12 pm, 08/04/2020] : dun underestimate our youngsters
[8:13 pm, 08/04/2020] : they are a passionate bunch
[8:13 pm, 08/04/2020] : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsEUtzvV7dQ

Ben
[8:19 pm, 08/04/2020] : 1) maybe ramp up production of artificial meat. Way more efficient and better for environment than animal meat.?

Rama
[4:23 pm, 08/04/2020] : Countries learn to love face masks in struggle to contain coronavirus https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/countries-learn-to-love-face-masks-in-struggle-to-contain-coronavirus?&utm_source=whatsapp&utm_medium=social-media&utm_campaign=addtoany

Rama
[6:11 pm, 08/04/2020] : Volunteers to sew 50,000 cloth masks at home amid Covid-19 'circuit breaker' https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/volunteers-sew-50000-cloth-masks-home-amid-covid-19-circuit-breaker#.Xo2jNhG500I.whatsapp

XaniceAfcai
[6:38 pm, 08/04/2020] : It takes the whole nation to co-operate else cb will become longer..
[6:39 pm, 08/04/2020] : I see the staff at the mrt eateries very sad looking and sian. No business.

Dongliang
[6:40 pm, 08/04/2020] : When Wuhan started lockdown in late jan. The government said: bear with the inconveniences for 2 weeks, then 1 month then 2 months then 70 days....

XaniceAfcai
[6:44 pm, 08/04/2020] : 1. Some parents had issue logging into SLS. Reset pw few times.

2. Suppose to work fr home but turn out can only work after 1pm.

3. Hdb is trembling bec of yelling fr mum to kids.

4. Every class diff concept. Some have live lesson and some dun have.

5. No proper instruction to parents or child what are the items to prepare.

We have no web cam, teacher expected child to have hp. We working parents how vto borrow hp to them. Although child is online, he can see teacher but teacher can't see him. Teacher txt n said child not online, absence. 🤦‍♀️

6. SLS is down at 10am and revert to manual worksheet practise.

[6:55 pm, 08/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Why for 2nd consecutive days, the same malls have max out crowd after dinner or after work time?
Will authority look into reducing these crowded areas?

Rama
[7:43 pm, 08/04/2020] : Covid-19 pandemic could lead to 150,000 to 200,000 retrenchments, say economists https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/covid-19-pandemic-could-lead-150000-200000-retrenchments-say-economists#.Xo243jG4PQQ.whatsapp

REACH
[8:45 pm, 08/04/2020] : Record 142 new Covid-19 cases in S'pore ; Indian national later confirmed to have Covid-19 died while awaiting test result
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/record-142-new-covid-19-cases-in-spore-indian-national-later-confirmed-to-have?xtor=CS3-18&utm_source=STiPhone&utm_medium=share&utm_term=2020-04-08%2020%3A04%3A39

REACH
[9:20 pm, 08/04/2020] : [Sent by Gov.sg]
COVID-19: 8 Apr update
New cases: 142
- Imported: 2
- Local cases (linked): 68 (40 cases linked to clusters at foreign worker dorms; 28 linked to non-dorm clusters/cases)
- Pending contact tracing: 72
Total cases: 1,623
- Hospitalised: 669  (29 in ICU)
- In isolation, private hospitals*: 542
- Fatalities: 6
- Total discharged: 406 (Discharged today: 29)
More: go.gov.sg/moh8apr
*Patients doing well but still testing positive for the virus are moved to Community Isolation Facilities and private hospitals
Stay at home as much as possible
✅ Allowed:
- Visiting family members for daily needs, caring for elderly parents or informal childcare
- Exercise alone or with others who live with you in an open-air stadium, public park but keep at least 1 metre apart
❌ Not allowed
- Social gatherings with family/friends who do not live together (eg. private parties, gathering at HDB void deck)
- Dining out
Non-compliance
- Fine up to $10,000 and/or jail up to 6 mths

[9:20 pm, 08/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: (1)
Now with so many local transmission reported plus 72 unlink cases, should we not adopt tougher measures to weed out the asymptomatic cases :-

a. Compulsory wearing of face masks the moment people step out into the public - public reusable ones.

b. Strict adherence to Work-at-Home, Study-at-Home - and strict enforcement for those who flout these measures.

c. Weed out all crowded areas such as malls displayed in Spaceout and parks display in NParks satellite map and mobile signals - and actively persuade all crowds to leave home.

d. Establish and map out pattern of travel of vicinity for those unlink cases --- where there is a possibility that these unlink cases could have cross path with those existing clusters (eg. in toilets, lifts etc) - and got exposed to the virus.
Using mobile data - is the most effective in doing this.

e. More testing to be conducted for those that appear in the vicinity with those unlink cases - even though they are strangers.

f. We must collectively urge and take stronger measures to keep local transmission down and most importantly - the unlink cases.

Suma
[9:21 pm, 08/04/2020] : Agree

Ben
[9:27 pm, 08/04/2020] : I think we have to adopt these strict measures. We have a 4 week window to get this done. It's costing lives, businesses and billions of $$. The malls should be closed and access to supermarkets managed carefully. No queuing allowed - maybe get a ticket and come back during your alloted time.

Kelvin Law
[9:45 pm, 08/04/2020] : Approach has to be calibrated.  Are we in complete lockdown yet?  No.  Even as it is, people are feeling the stress when we are barely cleared of the 1st week.  Doing all that will cause even more stress.  Looking at our discussion here, you can already gauge the stress level.

Ben
[9:47 pm, 08/04/2020] : The only difference mentioned was to wear a face mask while out. The rest of the list was to focus on tracing and identifying how the virus is transmitting. Enforcing the measures is important otherwise, what's the point?

Kelvin Law
[9:48 pm, 08/04/2020] : I never said enforcement is not important.  But to put queue number for access to supermarkets?

Ben
[9:48 pm, 08/04/2020] : Saves people waiting line and keeps the numbers down.

[9:48 pm, 08/04/2020] : If the supermarket is quiet they would have instant access

Kelvin Law
[9:49 pm, 08/04/2020] : Does it really work?  For our older folks who needs their daily supplies?  Get Q number and wait where?

Ben
[9:49 pm, 08/04/2020] : Im just suggesting a process to avoid queues to get in, queues to check out and busy aisles.

[9:48 pm, 08/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
(1) People can wait and take their time.
(2) Virus won't wait - and we already seeing the steep climb from Mar to April.
(3) We need to be decisive.

Kelvin Law
[9:49 pm, 08/04/2020] : U mean it's not decisive already?

[9:52 pm, 08/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Many people still don't wear mask even they're issue with one.
Few malls are still max out.

[9:37 pm, 08/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
When I just checked the spaceout, some of the malls crowd is still max.
Clarke quay is the champion - max for 3 consecutive days.

Kelvin Law
[9:45 pm, 08/04/2020] : I am taking it with a pinch of salt.  Considering there's no sit-in dining, why is Clarke Quay crowded?

[9:54 pm, 08/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Anyone in Clarke quay taking pictures of the crowd level there to prove spaceout is working properly.

[9:44 pm, 08/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
My close friend suggestion :-
(1) For people who have to work outside of their home to sustain the essential services please provide them with care packs to show appreciation and keep them safe. We can't afford to let them fall.
* care packs should contain good quality masks, hand sanitisers etc

(2) Outside of healthcare sector, there are lot of people who also have to work extra hard during this period to "keep the lights on"
 They are very tired but still have to carry on. This is the minimum that we can do to protect them

REACH - 43. How does Solidarity Budget help individuals and business (SK)
7 Apr 2020 (10 am - 10pm)

REACH
[9:59 am, 07/04/2020] : Dear REACH contributors
Thank you for your active participation in this chat group 🙂
REACH notes the feedback you provide and shares these with relevant authorities for consideration.
Our chat will be open from 10am till 10pm today.
📢Topic📢
Yesterday, DPM Heng Swee Keat announced the Solidarity Budget, with broad-based enhanced measures to reach as many Singaporeans as possible. DPM Heng mentioned that the Government "has brought all our resources and administrative capacity to bear, to mount a national effort for our workers, businesses, and families – to protect both lives and livelihoods.”
Tell us how these measures could help you and your family tide over this difficult season. Would these also encourage employers to keep their business running and retain their staff?
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/solidarity-budget-5-1-billion-save-jobs-circuit-breaker-12611090

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[11:29 am, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: US infection and death exceeded all countries many fold.

Joeann
[11:32 am, 07/04/2020] : Like president... like citizens..... most of them refuse lockdown

Rama
[11:32 am, 07/04/2020] : Dotard and Moron

Leonard Lau
[11:33 am, 07/04/2020] : It’s a democratic society where person freedom is deem most important ..

REACH
[11:45 am, 07/04/2020] : [Sent by Gov.sg - 7 Apr]
COVID-19: Take Circuit Breaker measures seriously
Circuit Breaker measures take effect from today till 4 May
➕ May be extended if situation is not brought under control
Stay at home
Only go out if:
👩‍⚕Going to work at essential services
🍜 Buying food (☝ remember to bring your own containers)
🥬 Buying groceries
🌳 Exercising at parks at safe distance
If your business is not among the list of essential services:
🔘 Work from Home 💯%
🔘 Stop work altogether
Check: go.gov.sg/circuitbreaker
Be socially responsible
For Circuit Breaker to work, all must cooperate
Stay at home. Protect yourself and your family. Save lives
Watch: go.gov.sg/circuitbreaker1

[12:03 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Bishan junction 8 crowded.
Govt sending security to chase the crowd away?

Evonne
[12:03 pm, 07/04/2020] : IF EVERYONE LISTEN AND STAY HOME

Elena Woo
[12:04 pm, 07/04/2020] : I doubt so ... there are people who are gangho one

Eugene
[12:04 pm, 07/04/2020] : thought restriction begins tdy?

Joeann
[12:04 pm, 07/04/2020] : Cfm have

Eugene
[12:04 pm, 07/04/2020] : govt should stepped up enforcement

[1:21 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
https://mothership.sg/2020/04/covid-19-singapore-expo/

[1:21 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Quite sad to see this.
If this is ever used, it means the cases have become too many and hospital space have to be vacated.

[12:58 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
China 5G quantum satellite - that display colour images and can even see human faces walking on the street.
Highly accurate.

[12:58 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
http://sh-meet.bigpixel.cn/?from=groupmessage&isappinstalled=0

Jen
[1:02 pm, 07/04/2020] : Sg has?

Droll
[1:02 pm, 07/04/2020] : Urm those images don't look like they were taken by a satellite

Ben
[1:08 pm, 07/04/2020] : It's a 360 image ultra high res

Droll
[1:08 pm, 07/04/2020] : Yes. standard camera optics
[1:08 pm, 07/04/2020] : https://youtu.be/lgOdkw-EvwA

[1:22 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
I took the those pictures using the China satellite.
It is the most advanced in the world.

[1:24 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Singapore don't have.
It is 5G quantum satellite.
China is far advanced in 5G and in quantum technology.

Ben
[1:26 pm, 07/04/2020] : It would be a very low satellite,  barely above the buildings. 😁

[1:26 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: In fact no other countries have except China.
[1:28 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: I think it is a trial satellite to test out their 5G and quantum technology.

Ben
[1:28 pm, 07/04/2020] : The satellite would be below building height to get this image.

Alvin
[1:28 pm, 07/04/2020] : cctv bah

[1:31 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: The satellite is right on top.

Droll
[1:32 pm, 07/04/2020] : It's not possible to capture images of a building from the side angle from a satellite unless we have figured out how to bend light with localized gravitational fields
[1:33 pm, 07/04/2020] : Or employ aeroplane sized optics to bend light. So I think those look more like multiple images shot by drones and then stitched together with software

[1:33 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Then got to ask the China satellite engineer.

Droll
[1:34 pm, 07/04/2020] : If China claims these images were taken by satellites then I would also doubt their statistics

[1:34 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Why?

Droll
[1:34 pm, 07/04/2020] : Lol
[1:34 pm, 07/04/2020] : It's China for heaven's sake
[1:34 pm, 07/04/2020] : Kinda like this
[1:34 pm, 07/04/2020] : Nationalistic pride is one of their top agendas
[1:35 pm, 07/04/2020] : Even if it means they claim they have invented a time machine

[1:36 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Those who work closely with China city planning can confirm they have these technologies.

Droll
[1:36 pm, 07/04/2020] : I don't doubt they have the technologies, but it's not from satellites
[1:37 pm, 07/04/2020] : Lol

Alvin
[1:38 pm, 07/04/2020] : Most likely cctv

Droll
[1:38 pm, 07/04/2020] : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UlCYFh8U2xM

[1:38 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Unless you say their drones can fly 24 hours 365days.

Droll
[1:39 pm, 07/04/2020] : Of course drones cannot do that, but why can't you deploy multiple drones?
[1:39 pm, 07/04/2020] : Come on.

[1:39 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: And unless their CCTV can fly like satellite.

Droll
[1:40 pm, 07/04/2020] : If they have those high gigapixel resolution images as a live video feed from those angles you posted and online 24x7 then I would be impressed.

[1:40 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Fly multiple drones 365days continuously?

Alvin
[1:40 pm, 07/04/2020] : Video stitching

Droll
[1:40 pm, 07/04/2020] : Why not?
[1:40 pm, 07/04/2020] : For national pride
[1:40 pm, 07/04/2020] : It's easy to fly such drones
[1:41 pm, 07/04/2020] : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh3-Mvrp1Lc look
[1:41 pm, 07/04/2020] : Drones are not flown manually

[1:41 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Well since I don't know I won't comments further.
This satellite images is what China published and I take it as face value.

Desmond
[1:41 pm, 07/04/2020] : Please migrate to China 😏

[1:42 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: What is this got to do with migration?

Desmond
[1:44 pm, 07/04/2020] : Haha cos, China sounds quite advanced so I think must be a good place to retire 😝

Droll
[1:42 pm, 07/04/2020] : Quantum satellites are something entirely different
[1:43 pm, 07/04/2020] : Not for photography
[1:43 pm, 07/04/2020] : or surveillance

Alvin
[1:43 pm, 07/04/2020] : China has very advanced cctv and facial recognition technology though

Droll
[1:43 pm, 07/04/2020] : It's right now focused on quantum entanglement experiments

Alvin
[1:43 pm, 07/04/2020] : They can detect height and build
[1:43 pm, 07/04/2020] : Even your walking pattern
[1:44 pm, 07/04/2020] : So no matter how you disguise they will locate you

Droll
[1:44 pm, 07/04/2020] : I won't exactly call it advanced. I would say it's a lot of brute processing power

[1:44 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: You sounds like expert why don't you post to that China website and say it is fake.

Droll
[1:44 pm, 07/04/2020] : https://www.scmp.com/news/china/article/2010667/handshake-shows-chinas-quantum-satellite-performing-even-better-expected
[1:44 pm, 07/04/2020] : Quantum entanglement is not new
[1:44 pm, 07/04/2020] : We're just trying to figure out how to use it in practical ways

Droll
[1:45 pm, 07/04/2020] : lol
[1:45 pm, 07/04/2020] : Quite advanced in many areas. ;)

Leonard Lau
[1:46 pm, 07/04/2020] : Share more leh since it is a good lobang

Alvin
[1:46 pm, 07/04/2020] : True but nowhere else deploys this type of brute processing system

Droll
[1:46 pm, 07/04/2020] : All I am saying is check and double check the facts. In this day and age of the digital world, you cannot believe everything you come across. Read and do research

Alvin
[1:47 pm, 07/04/2020] : You need a ton of infra to get to that level

Desmond
[1:47 pm, 07/04/2020] : I don know enough lei, only went to nanjing uni to teach their international IT undergrad for 1 month for their 3+1 degree program..

[1:49 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Anyone going to Shanghai see thousands of drones flying continuously in their sky 365 days?

Desmond
[1:50 pm, 07/04/2020] : Where is the web, share lei

Leonard Lau
[1:51 pm, 07/04/2020] : How are these students at Nanjing  ? I was invited to speak at their IT trade shows .. I find them amazing . Damn hungry for exchange and attitude up there .

[1:51 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Scroll right up.
I share already.

[1:52 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Or thousands of CCTV flying continuously for 365 days?

Blue and White Flag Guy
[1:52 pm, 07/04/2020] : http://sh-meet.bigpixel.cn/?from=groupmessage&isappinstalled=0

Droll
[1:54 pm, 07/04/2020] : Those images were not taken by drones flying continjuously lah
[1:54 pm, 07/04/2020] : It was a single shot
[1:54 pm, 07/04/2020] : Still image
[1:55 pm, 07/04/2020] : It's not even a video feed
[1:55 pm, 07/04/2020] : Anyway, peace. I didn't mean to offend you.
[1:57 pm, 07/04/2020] : The text below gives some hint as to how it was taken

Carol
[1:58 pm, 07/04/2020] : AGREE.   Don't use mouth,  use brain.

Alvin
[2:00 pm, 07/04/2020] : Woah woah woah
[2:00 pm, 07/04/2020] : Keep calm
[2:00 pm, 07/04/2020] : I sense another storm coming
[2:00 pm, 07/04/2020] : No ego bashing pls
[2:00 pm, 07/04/2020] : 🤔

Droll
[2:02 pm, 07/04/2020] : Actually scratch that. Let's just be nice to each other :)

[3:01 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
You won't offend me as long as we talk facts.
I don't claim I know everything.
This link was sent to me by someone who works in an overseas project and he is a comms engineer.
He say that it is a 5G quantum satellite.
I am not an expert in satellite, and thus I don't have to defend it.

Droll
[3:01 pm, 07/04/2020] : Ok Danny. Thank you for the clarification.
[3:02 pm, 07/04/2020] : 💪🤜🤛

[5:38 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Boris Johnson move into ICU due to serious symptoms developing.

Min
[5:40 pm, 07/04/2020] : https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/five-of-six-face-masks-fail-absorbency-test
https://youtu.be/4-gFxTSHzI8
[5:40 pm, 07/04/2020] : YouTube link for the test
[5:40 pm, 07/04/2020] : The article for highlighting what a bad mask is
[5:42 pm, 07/04/2020] : Basically (according to this expert):
1) Outside layer - needs to be hydrophobic, will form droplets
2) Inner layer - should be opaque enough and should not catch fire, rather it should melt
3) Layer facing your mouth - should be able to absorb droplets

Neeyor
[6:17 pm, 07/04/2020] : https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/covid-19-proposed-law-prohibit-parties-or-gatherings-any-size-home-or-public-spaces-gan

[6:41 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Iron fist stepping up.

Evonne
[6:42 pm, 07/04/2020] : What happen actually

Joeann
[6:42 pm, 07/04/2020] : Ya lo what happen sia

[6:43 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Don't know unless you turn on the volume louder and hear what are they talking.
People say he loitering.

Evonne
[6:43 pm, 07/04/2020] : I on damn loud alrd
[6:43 pm, 07/04/2020] : Lol
[6:43 pm, 07/04/2020] : So muffled

Joeann
[6:44 pm, 07/04/2020] : Speaker. 😛

Kevinn Wang
[6:51 pm, 07/04/2020] : downstairs is ok de
[6:52 pm, 07/04/2020] : just dun hang around can already

Jun
[6:52 pm, 07/04/2020] : If still have people playing basketball? How
[6:52 pm, 07/04/2020] : Call SPF?

Joeann
[6:59 pm, 07/04/2020] : Heard downstair also cannot “loiter”
[6:59 pm, 07/04/2020] : Dunno. Just stay home best
[6:59 pm, 07/04/2020] : My bed... finally can see me 24/7

REACH
[7:57 pm, 07/04/2020] : https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-social-gatherings-of-any-size-in-both-private-and-12617800

Joeann
[8:12 pm, 07/04/2020] : No social gatherings in public and private. No visit family mbrs not living under u. All 6mths

[8:25 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
These are the sites where the crowd are max to the capacity.
Wonder can Authority take actions on the crowd?

[9:31 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
(1) In all we have used up $59.9 billion and $21 billion is drawn from our reserves.

(2) If so much money have been spend and now "circuit breaker" is implemented for 1 month --- so as to break the chain of transmission --- isn't it everyone's responsibilities to ensure the chain of local transmission works?

(3) Wonder why there are so many people still crowding in the various malls --- and risk the chance of more local transmission?

(4) Should a stronger response be used to enforce the crowd stay out of the malls - and stay at home?

Ben
[9:51 pm, 07/04/2020] : Yes Danny, to all your points. It's frustrating peole don't seem ro understand. We have spent $80bn tackling this, I really hope we don't blow it for the sake of socialising inappropriately. Our kids and the next generation depend on us to do this right. Is their future financial security at risk.

[9:51 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Thought was $60 billion?

Evonne
[9:52 pm, 07/04/2020] : 59.9bil

Zie Chon
[9:53 pm, 07/04/2020] : Whatever, it's a lot of billions to let a few people enjoy taking selfies in front of some nice background (what I just saw on way to supermarket)

[9:54 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
As we spoke Clarke quay and Westgate still max crowd.
The rest of the mall green now.

XaniceAfcai
[10:18 pm, 07/04/2020] : Agreed to use enforcement to catch those not compromise the riles. Else it waste the great effort of what gov has done.. And what those responsible ppls has compromise of stay at home.
[10:18 pm, 07/04/2020] : *rules

[10:20 pm, 07/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: Including all the business and workers sacrifices to stay at home and losing business.

XaniceAfcai
[10:21 pm, 07/04/2020] : Yeah. Enforcement...else dunno when will the cb last till....it takes only 1%of the people to break the chain.

Joeann
[10:27 pm, 07/04/2020] : So long as infected nos go down... we should be good
[10:27 pm, 07/04/2020] : It take a china province 13days...
[10:27 pm, 07/04/2020] : So we can too, since we small

REACH
[11:28 pm, 07/04/2020] : [Sent by Gov.sg]

COVID-19: 7 Apr update

New cases: 106
- Imported: 3
- Local cases (linked): 62 (39 cases linked to clusters at foreign worker dorms; 23 linked to non-dorm clusters)
- Pending contact tracing: 41

Total cases: 1,481
- Hospitalised: 627 (29 in ICU)
- In isolation, private hospitals*: 471
- Fatalities: 6
- Total discharged: 377 (Discharged today: 33)

More: go.gov.sg/moh7apr

*Patients doing well but still testing positive for the virus are moved to Community Isolation Facilities and private hospitals

Stay at home do the right thing
- Limit social contact to household members
- Don't go out unless for essentials, go home as soon as you can
- Wear a mask if you have to go out
 ⛔ It is an offence to disobey safe distancing measures
- To our Seniors 👵👴: you are more vulnerable;
- For your safety, please stay home, avoid crowded places 🙏

go.gov.sg/circuitbreaker2


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REACH - 42. Your views on the  additional measures to protect the safety and well-being of Singaporeans and foreign workers with more infection from FW dormitories (SK)
6 Apr 2020 (10 am - 10pm)

REACH
[12:33 am, 06/04/2020] : [Sent by Gov.sg]
COVID-19: 5 Apr Update
New imported cases: 4
New local cases: 116 [50 linked to existing clusters, contact tracing ongoing for remaining 66]
Total cases in Singapore: 1,309
Discharged today: 23
Total discharged: 320
Total remaining in Hospital: 569
Most in hospital stable or improving. 25 in ICU.
Go.gov.sg/moh5apr
Do your part for contact tracing
- Download TraceTogether App to help contact tracers determine if you have been exposed to virus
- Keep your taxi receipts for 1 month to help contact tracing team, if you or your driver is infected
Go.gov.sg/traceapp
The health of all depends on each one of us.

[11:57 am, 06/04/2020] REACH: Dear REACH contributors,
Welcome back to our discussion ☺
 ⏰ Our chat will be open till 11pm today.
Thank you for your constructive suggestions and views. REACH constantly notes the feedback provided on our WhatsApp chats, and shares these with relevant authorities for consideration.
📢 Topic: 📢
Following the new clusters of confirmed cases in our foreign worker (FW) dormitories, additional measures have been implemented to minimise the spread of COVID-19 within FW dormitories.
What are your views on the  additional measures to protect the safety and well-being of Singaporeans and foreign workers — many whom are here working in essential services, as cleaners, in construction, as domestic helpers — who are here to help our economy?
👉 https://www.moh.gov.sg/news-highlights/details/additional-measures-to-minimise-further-spread-of-covid-19-within-foreign-worker-dormitories

Kevinn Wang
[10:02 am, 06/04/2020] : 1) ENFORCE MASK ON!!!! -> this is the same thing i spread to my team working today compulsory

Peter T Ng
[10:02 am, 06/04/2020] : Think there's a great deal of fear of the dorms becoming mega source of new cases. Perhaps greater insight of what has been done can allay these fears.

Kevinn Wang
[10:03 am, 06/04/2020] : 2) Everyone to be ambassador for mask on -> i saw on the street many still happily breathing fresh air .. and in my office no one bother to wear mask .. Minister L.Wong already suggest quote and unquote " please treat everyone is infected"

Jun
[10:04 am, 06/04/2020] : Following the Circuit Breaker, should just mandate that all who goes out need to wear mask. Many will probably use the "park and tabao" loophole to malinger around


Kevinn Wang
[10:04 am, 06/04/2020] : so i encourage staff to mask on esppically with the DORM!!! and hearing what happen to the dorm some are putting action of mask on

Carol
[10:04 am, 06/04/2020] : Why topic only foreigners??  Should be whole nation?

Kevinn Wang
[10:04 am, 06/04/2020] : YES NO MASK CANNOT GO OUT! that is the best

Carol
[10:05 am, 06/04/2020] : No excuse no mask given G giving all masks already

Alvin
[10:07 am, 06/04/2020] : What are your views on the  additional measures to protect the safety and well-being of Singaporeans and foreign workers — many whom are here working in essential services, as cleaners, in construction, as domestic helpers — who are here to help our economy?
Good measures. Not sure how effective this partial shutdown will be though and will only see results in 2 weeks time.
Question: Is the spike in the dormitory cases somehow linked to the rush to Sg as Malaysia enforced their for MCO? The timing of 2 weeks seem to have some correlation.
Question: Straits Times report "MOH said it does not currently have a breakdown of how many of these new cases are linked to clusters or unlinked. This brings Singapore's total to 1,309 cases." Does this mean we have given up on contact tracing?

Janice
[10:07 am, 06/04/2020] : The previous campaign to shame those wearing mask was highly effective. Takes time to turn around.
[10:10 am, 06/04/2020] : I hope we don't give up on contact tracing because that stems the rise of infections significantly.
Without contact tracing and subsequent tests and quarantine, the situation will be far worse
Create more jobs for unemployed PMETs to support contact tracing efforts to ease the load.

Adam
[10:13 am, 06/04/2020] : I notice a good  sign that more and more ppl are putting  on mask than before they  know  how serious the situation now .

Kevinn Wang
[10:14 am, 06/04/2020] : Govt show broadcast those clips on how ppl suffer when they got the corona virus to wake up those selffish self entitle mindset
[10:14 am, 06/04/2020] : if govt can put so call gross pic on ciggi box
[10:14 am, 06/04/2020] : why not do it on national tv given this is a crisis for covid!
[10:15 am, 06/04/2020] : critical period calls for critical action if the public still dun listen and practise, they are leading us into a full lock / extension .. which no one should or wish for it

Jonathan Lim
[10:20 am, 06/04/2020] : But now I think contact tracing also not useful already as now already have community spread that's why there are a lot of cases

Min
[10:20 am, 06/04/2020] : Dorms in a shut down mode feel like ship situations.

REACH
[10:54 am, 06/04/2020] :
CCS speech

Spike in Cases 200405

Dear friends
We are in a very serious situation now.
Many may not fully grasp the gravity of the situation. We need everyone’s help to spread the message.
We need to take the “Stay at Home” message seriously.
We must advise everyone to immediately cease going out except for critical work and obtaining food/essentials for our families.
The virus do not operate according to our timeline to only stop non-essential work from Tues.
Now is also not the “time for a final drink or a final purchase before Tues”.
Too many clusters are breaking out from social interactions. This will further strain our medical resources and contact tracing teams.
The dorm situation is a stark reminder how cases can spike rapidly even as we try our best. We are trying to space them out better to take care of them and minimise transmission.
We need to break the transmission chains decisively by having everyone minimise social contact to the minimum necessary.
Now is also not the time to seek waiver for our businesses to continue operations because of the inconveniences we face.  The truly essential ones we can understand and will facilitate.
We can understand everyone’s economic difficulties but let’s prioritise our efforts to break the transmission chain first. If we are successful, we will pick up the pieces together after the crisis. We promise and we will help each other through this tough situation.
Please remind everyone to stay at home and not stray around.
Thank you.

Carol
[11:01 am, 06/04/2020] : https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3078511/coronavirus-can-remain-face-masks-week-study-finds

Ron Ho
[1:15 pm, 06/04/2020] : Dear REACH, you asked what can we do to protect our foreign workers. I suspect this comes about due to the high infection rate seen at the FW Dormitories. Frankly, the infection and contagion at highly dense living spaces is expected but can be contained. If we dont, and infection spreads, the Dormitories will be ringfenced and quarantined for 14 days and all work will stop on the island. Here are my suggestions >>>> (1) all people outside must be masked regardless. This is a decision which our govt is still softpedalling and is the weak link in our prevention chain. Bite the bullet. Get the people masked.  (2) the dormitories must be re-evalualted, one by one, for density safety. Spread the people out out of their condensed living   (3) get all dormitories to be cleaned, purged and sanitated regardless of infection or not  (4) test all Dorm residents and isloate the sick ones. Do a clean sweep   (5) Mask all Dorm residents even while contained in the Dorm area. No choice.  (6) Audit and check all Dorms and ensure continual flow of fresh air throughout the premises and rooms  (7) for next 60 days, all FTs in Dorms are not allowed to go out of the Dorms when not working - insulate them from the public as community spread outside the Dorms are still prevalent   (8) When finally released to work, all FTs must be masked. This will help with their health as they are exposed to dust and we need to protect their lungs from silicosis.

Min
[1:16 pm, 06/04/2020] : agree, need to treat this like a cruise ship

[1:26 pm, 06/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
NOVEL CORONAVIRUS CASES IN SINGAPORE
New cases announced on Apr 5 120
Confirmed cases so far 1,309
Recovered 320
Still in hospital 569
In isolation 414
Deaths 6

[1:32 pm, 06/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

KS Foong
[2:01 pm, 06/04/2020] : I saw some videos on the current situation of FW domitories, i think it is really a challenge to get these group of people to stay in their room. During meal time, all come out without any care of social distancing ! I really hv  concern here !

Ron Ho
[2:17 pm, 06/04/2020] : https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3326389574043838&id=100000184854385 a good read
[2:18 pm, 06/04/2020] : Above read is on Taiwan and their actions. Read on about masks.


[5:20 pm, 06/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: ----
This message will not be posted to REACH.

But this is for us to take stock and do Reflection - what else we can help in providing ideas to improve the covid-19 situation - when now unlink cases seems to spike - a whopping 66 cases on 5 Apr 2020 - our worst fear have unfold.

The following is what we have proposed and have been adopted by the Government :-

1. Suggest using washable reusable mask. (Joint effort)
- Gov adopted by issuing 1 washable reusable mask per person - and encourage its used.
- But not mandating it as compulsory to wear in public.
- Observation :- only about 20% to 30% put it on in public and in transport.

2. Suggest using crowd mapping of mobile signals and GPS for contact tracing. (Joint effort)
- Gov adopted with spaceout - to monitor crowd traffic in malls.
- Gov adopted through NPark - to monitor crowd in park.
(through Singapore satellites - possibly NUS, NTU, ST Engineering
- But no mention for used in contact tracing.

3. Point out the urgency to look at unlink cases - that have been increasing since early March - that may fail to flatten the infection curve. (Joint effort)
- Gov announce "circuit breaker measure" to be implement on 7 Apr 2020 - where non-essential work - to work at home, school to do home-based-learning, and travel only to buy food and essential.

4. Suggest not using alcohol-based sanitizer as it is inflammable and can trigger explosion and fire if used to disinfect house, can inflame lungs if infected with covid-19 when consume, can cause skin-rashes if used too often.
- Temasek Foundation issue non-alcohol based sanitizer to each household.

Other measures that we can proposed --- with the backdrop of more unlink cases discovered --- that signify community spreading/

(1) Mandate compulsory to wear mask in public ?

(2) More targeted testing ? not sure how ...

(3) More updates on vaccines development locally and overseas ...?

(4) More updates on treatment development locally and overseas ... ?

what else .......... ????

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Rama
[3:17 pm, 06/04/2020] : Singaporean are most fortunate to have a far sighted government.
[3:17 pm, 06/04/2020] : Our reserves are an important part of our survival to be used sparingly.

Elena Woo
[3:19 pm, 06/04/2020] : Yes, if no reserves, it will just be empty talk and cannot support or barely support just like some other countries.
[3:19 pm, 06/04/2020] : And when such crisis happens the amount of money required is huge, usually can just wipe out years of reserves in 1 go.
[3:20 pm, 06/04/2020] : That is why a saying goes, you have to scrimp over long period to save, but you only need 1 second to spend what has been saved

Rama
[3:20 pm, 06/04/2020] : So, treasure our leaders and give them the due respect to lead us for the next new term.

Ben
[3:42 pm, 06/04/2020] : South Korea for the first time since 29 February reported fewer than 50 new coronavirus cases. For the last month, South Korea has been reporting around 100 new coronavirus cases per day.
Germany reported its fourth straight drop in daily cases. Germany’s confirmed coronavirus infections rose by 3,677 in the past 24 hours to 95,391 on Monday, the fourth straight drop in the daily rate of new cases, according to data from the Robert Koch Institute for infectious diseases.

[3:42 pm, 06/04/2020] : Daily death tolls slowed on Sunday in Italy, Spain and France. Italy registered 525 new coronavirus deaths on Sunday, the lowest daily rate since March 19. Spain recorded 674 deaths in the past 24 hours – the lowest daily death toll reported since March 26. In France, 357 people died from Covid-19 in hospitals, compared with 441 in the previous 24 hours.

REACH
[5:20 pm, 06/04/2020] : Parliament: Circuit breaker measures might be extended if coronavirus situation not under control, says Chan Chun Sing
https://www.straitstimes.com/politics/parliament-circuit-breaker-measures-might-be-extended-if-situation-not-under-control-says?xtor=CS3-18&utm_source=STiPhone&utm_medium=share&utm_term=2020-04-06%2017%3A04%3A57

[7:17 pm, 06/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: ---
Joint contribution with my close friend :-

What Other measures that we can proposed --- with the backdrop of more unlink cases discovered --- that signify community spreading :-

(1) We are toying with 2 measures :-
a. Break the transmission chains
- strong messaging at various platforms including social media.
- Deploy the old fashion elections campaign technique of driving a loudspeaker all around Singapore to ask people to Stay at Home!!!.
- Uniform groups to patrol around to check on people and chase them home.
(Backdrop - A bit of frustration as we see the local transmission keep going up - new clusters forming and more and more unlink cases.
People are not taking it seriously. What else? Iron fist method to keep people at home. Enough of 苦口婆心).

b. Slow the transmission.

(2) Give those infected time to recover and discharged.

(3) Prepare for what life would be post pandemic.

(4) Mandate compulsory to wear mask in public - for those who need to buy groceries or essential since washable reusable masks have been issued by the Government.

(5) More targeted and comprehensive testing - to include those that have been contact traced.

(6) More updates on vaccines development locally and overseas.

(7) More updates on treatment development locally and overseas.

(8) Though we are happy that the Government is supporting individual and business with the 3rd Solidarity Budget --- that in total amount to $60 billion.
But it is a very big sum --- considering the fact that our Temasek Holdings seek fund is $100 billion.
Now $60 billion is gone ---- though at the back of our mind ---- this is a very severe crisis (where China is worried that this even could trigger a 2nd Deep Depression - that the World could experience).

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NOVEL CORONAVIRUS CASES IN SINGAPORE
New cases announced on Apr 5 120
Confirmed cases so far 1,309
Recovered 320
Still in hospital 569
In isolation 414
Deaths 6

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[9:13 pm, 06/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
See the spaceout satellite and mobile signal showing a maximum crowd in Westgate and Jem.
Wonder why no social distancing to regulate the crowd there?
Also whether all these crowd wear mask?

[9:17 pm, 06/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Clarke quay another one with max crowd.

Wonder will government take preemptive actions to chase the crowd to go home?

Eugene
[9:18 pm, 06/04/2020] : everyone gg out before the closure of non-essential services kick in tml

David Murugan
[9:18 pm, 06/04/2020] : Where to get this app? Playstore?

[9:19 pm, 06/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: https://www.spaceout.gov.sg/


Kelvin Law
[9:21 pm, 06/04/2020] : 100% occupancy at Clarkey Quay?  Seriously?

[9:21 pm, 06/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
This i believe is Singapore launch satellites by NUS, NTU, ST Engineering etc.
They can do GPS and use mobile signals to do crowd mapping.

Now this is put to good used.

[9:26 pm, 06/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
Every one with mobile signal can be logged now - and contact tracers can napped all these crowd that appear in these crowded places.

[9:32 pm, 06/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
All their aggregate mobile signals determined the crowd density.
If the mobile signal exceeded the space capacity - it shows max out.

REACH
[9:47 pm, 06/04/2020] : https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/three-rounds-stimulus-packages-will-be-vain-if-sporeans-dont-comply-circuit-breaker

Alvin
[9:33 pm, 06/04/2020] : yes this
[9:33 pm, 06/04/2020] : wifi have max connections
[9:33 pm, 06/04/2020] : not sure how many are in the dorms

[9:33 pm, 06/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: This is not WiFi.

Alvin
[9:33 pm, 06/04/2020] : but unless you're telling me you have enterprise level wireless AP then possible to support all the numbers

[9:34 pm, 06/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: The mobile signal is 4g.

[9:35 pm, 06/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心: You are referring to the dorm or the satellite and mobile base station?

[9:40 pm, 06/04/2020] ☸️  Danny 心:
I talk about the satellite and mobile base station.
I think you are talking about the dorm WiFi.
Wrong topic.

Ron Ho
[9:47 pm, 06/04/2020] : [06/04, 9:37 pm] Ron Ho: REACH: why can't our Infocom Ministry set up Wireless@SG at these FW Dorms? Surely we can afford to make their lives a bit more pleasant.
[06/04, 9:37 pm] : wireless @ sg is sucky
[06/04, 9:38 pm] : Haha wireless@sg.. I think they would use their own 4G .
[06/04, 9:41 pm] Ron Ho: Reach Contributors, if you feel Wireless@SG is pathetic, don't forget we pay income tax and some of that money go to the maintenance of that system. You should demand through REACH that Ministry of Communications fix the problem. We cannot ignore inefficiency. Hammer the Ministry till they fix it.
[06/04, 9:44 pm] Ron Ho: If it is not fixed, then the Chief has to go. LKY said that.
[06/04, 9:44 pm] : Precisely I understand G aren’t paying good money to maintain the wireless@SG service .  Reach , please request for more budgets from MCI to fund this.

Otherwise , please block all the media content on wireless@sg so that only good browsing data are carried over the service .
[06/04, 9:45 pm] : I wonder is it because of the service or are there a lot of interference from other APs in the area?  INow ever shop seems to have their own WIFI.
[06/04, 9:46 pm] : Uhh...a bit high-handed to block all media content leh.  What is good browsing data?