REACH 583 - What are your thoughts on the task force on bus safety? What more can be done to enhance the public transport network while ensuring the road safety of everyone?
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02 Jul 2024 (10am - 7pm)
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2/7/24, 10:00 am - +REACH: 📢 *Topic* 📢
The safety of public buses here will be scrutinised by a task force that will be led by newly minted Minister of State for Transport Murali Pillai. This comes on the heels of a spate of accidents involving public buses.
The task force, comprising representatives from government agencies, the National Transport Workers’ Union, all four public bus operators and the Singapore Road Safety Council, aims to complete its review by early 2025, said Transport Minister Chee Hong Tat on July 1.
💬 *What are your thoughts on the task force on bus safety? What more can be done to enhance the public transport network while ensuring the road safety of everyone?*
Minister Chee said in a Facebook post that the review will identify ways for the bus industry to make further improvements, building on safety initiatives and practices put in place over the years. He noted that the annual number of serious accidents involving public buses in Singapore has remained stable in the past few years. There were 75 such accidents in the first five months of 2024, compared with 207 in the whole of 2023 and 207 in the whole of 2022.
“Safety is a key priority for our public transport network,” Minister Chee said.
In response to queries, Tower Transit and SMRT said they will work closely with the task force, while SBST expressed commitment towards enhancing safety with the tripartite group. The three operators also pointed to existing safety initiatives, such as structured training for new drivers, safe driving incentives and investments in technology like fatigue and collision warning systems.
MOS Murali will look after some land transport matters such as transport technologies and public bus services as well.
👉 https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/task-force-to-look-into-bus-safety-amid-recent-spate-of-accidents
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2/7/24, 10:28 am - +Kenneth Lee WM: Rd safety is more than just bus safety. It has to do with rd layout, signages etc as well. I hope they will look in totality.
Even the people evaluating safety feedback . Eg i reported in Oneservice issue 20240508-0900; a new island was set up at a junction. Was hard to see when turning, mounted kerb. Asked for pillars to be put up so can see corners. LTA evaluator say everything ok after sending someone to observe. I looked at kerb, it showed signs of abrasion. Obviously I was not the only one. What planet was that evaluator from? What was the guy observing?
It’s no wonder we hv issues. Instead of looking at at “obvious” clues, LTA sends someone to stand there for a couple of hours and then says all is ok because that person didn’t witness any issue.
2/7/24, 10:28 am - +Kenneth Lee WM: <Media omitted>
2/7/24, 10:39 am - +Rama: Why not car accident issues included!?
2/7/24, 11:58 am - +Sean: Actually, anti collision technology had developed well, why not this became part of the safety requirements?
2/7/24, 12:02 pm - +Rama: Can this override driver reluctant to react!?
2/7/24, 12:17 pm - +Sean: My understanding is it will take over driver to activate e stop if driver not reacting in time
2/7/24, 12:32 pm - +Bhavani: Hi I have sometimes come across bus drivers speeding during both peak and non peak hours
2/7/24, 12:34 pm - +Rama: Public transport buses have speed limitations devices installed. Also, central command can co
2/7/24, 12:35 pm - +Rama: Communicate with driver to advise if necessary.
2/7/24, 12:51 pm - +Bhavani: Then how is it that I have come across speeding buses
2/7/24, 1:14 pm - +Rama: Most likely you are observing from the road side
2/7/24, 1:20 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
https://sso.agc.gov.sg/SL/RTA1961-R39?DocDate=20211230
Speed limiters for public vehicles.
2/7/24, 1:21 pm - ☸️ Danny 心: <Media omitted>
2/7/24, 1:21 pm - ☸️ Danny 心: <Media omitted>
2/7/24, 1:30 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
1. Most of the times based on my observations, bus captains in public buses are always mindful and careful when driving the buses.
2. As compare to many years ago.
3. They will sometimes wait for people when people are quite far away from the bus stop flagging the bus.
4. Many bus captains are also helpful in handicap on wheelchair or PMA.
5. However, i feel that what can trigger an accident to public buses could be fatigue that sets in.
6. Being humans, fatigue after a long day could take its toll and trigger a momentary loss of concentration or misjudgment that cause an accident.
7. As bus captains not only need to drive the bus that is long and big, ensure passengers board and alight safely, pay the fare, manage crowded bus, assist wheelchair bound passengers etc.
8. Hence, technologies maybe necessary to assist the bus captains to avoid accidents during the lapse of concentration.
2/7/24, 1:39 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
1. I recall ST Engineering - specifically ST Kinetics have a full range of technologies that can be deployed to make public buses safer and is a good helping hands to the bus captains in time of emergency.
2. ST Kinetics is heavily involved in autonomous driverless cars (development , pilot test etc) - that involves a vast array of technologies such as LIDAR sensors, Radar, camera for image recognition, GPS, ultrasonic sensors, anti-collision or avoidance system.
3. In addition, ST Kinetics also build Hunter APC and the new Hunter APC with cutting edge network, sensors and combat management system - that automate many complex combat operations.
4. Hence I believe, if some of this cost effective technologies are apply to public buses - safety and accidents can be greatly reduced if not eradicated.
2/7/24, 1:41 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
5. Among other technologies deployed also include AR (Augmented Reality), AI to train on the routes of the public roads, and work with 5G comms. <This message was edited>\
2/7/24, 1:50 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
6. Of course other measures as highlighted by the Ministers such as structured driving course for bus drivers, safety course etc are important for drivers to be trained to operate in tandem with the new technologies, while at the same time inculcate safe driving into their work.
2/7/24, 1:55 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
But with more technologies deployed, it will means higher capital cost per bus.
Wonder will this be translated into higher bus fares or not.
羊毛出在羊身上。
Wool come from sheep.
Cost come from passengers...
2/7/24, 1:55 pm - +Frankie Wee: Would like to share new Ai bot
2/7/24, 1:55 pm - +Frankie Wee: https://t.me/straits_times_newsie_bot
2/7/24, 2:02 pm - +~l or Smiley face: This message was deleted
2/7/24, 2:03 pm - +Bhavani: No.. I have boarded such buses <This message was edited>
2/7/24, 2:04 pm - +Bhavani: This message was deleted
2/7/24, 2:05 pm - +Bhavani: Please don't make assumptions
2/7/24, 2:05 pm - +Bhavani: How come you can make such assumptions when I have directly witnessed them speeding while I was on the buses
2/7/24, 2:05 pm - +Bhavani: Please don't make assumptions
2/7/24, 2:07 pm - +Bhavani: Always making assumptions when I'm actually talking about my own experiences!
2/7/24, 2:08 pm - +Bhavani: It's not a few times that I have experienced speeding buses
2/7/24, 2:08 pm - +REACH: 📢 *Topic* 📢
2/7/24, 2:09 pm - +Telephone number: The speed limitation devices only beep and record the speed if it exceeds the limit. It does not manually slow down the bus.
2/7/24, 2:13 pm - ☸️ Danny 心: <Media omitted>
2/7/24, 2:13 pm - ☸️ Danny 心: <Media omitted>
2/7/24, 2:13 pm - +~l or Smiley face: _*Using Road Pricing Sensors to Encourage Safe Driving*_
Utilise road pricing sensors to double up as monitor and enforce speed limits on all roads, promoting safe driving habits and generating revenue.
- Install sensors on all roads to track speed and capture license plate info
- Set threshold speed limit (10km/h above posted limit)
- Issue fines/penalties for excessive speed
- Collect data to identify high-risk areas and improve road safety
- Potential revenue source for governments and transportation authorities
- Privacy and technical considerations must be addressed
2/7/24, 2:14 pm - +~l or Smiley face: *The Future Penalty For Speeding*
"Either you slow down and comply or you shall stop driving!"
-- anonymity
_Speeding Penalties_
- Not exceeding 10km/h above the speed limit: Fine of up to 10 times the amount for that particular stretch of road pricing, pro rata.
- Exceeding 10km/h above the speed limit: Minimum fine of $200 and 2 demerit points.
- Exceeding 20% or more above the speed limit: Fine of up to $500 and 6 demerit points.
_Notification:_
- All offences and demerit points will be notified to the vehicle owner via SMS within one hour.
_Demerit Point System:_
- Demerit points will be automatically deducted only after payment of fines.
- Owner or driver particulars must be filed with the Traffic Police Digital platform.
_Grace Period:_
- Failure to comply with any offence within the grace period will result in up to three times the penalty, including demerit points.
_Additional Offences:_
- Continued use or lending of the vehicle despite cessation orders will constitute separate chargeable offences under the Road Safety Act of SG.
(Note: The demerit points system will be regularly reviewed and updated to ensure road safety and accountability.)
2/7/24, 2:14 pm - ☸️ Danny 心: <Media omitted>
2/7/24, 2:16 pm - +Frankie Wee: Timing speed per mile = arrival bus stop is less than 10 mins
When onboard expressway is high speed less than 60km/h
2/7/24, 2:17 pm - +Frankie Wee: If road more building space then bus will more flexible speed
2/7/24, 2:17 pm - ☸️ Danny 心: <Media omitted>
2/7/24, 2:19 pm - +Frankie Wee: Singapore vehicle limit island road if too jam trafficking then slow down
2/7/24, 2:22 pm - +~l or Smiley face: This message was deleted
2/7/24, 2:22 pm - +~l or Smiley face: What are the common causes of road fatalities?
Careless?
Reckless?
Inattentive?
No regards for others safety?
Rushing and Adrenaline pumping ?
All converged to one common root cause, that's SPEEDING!
2/7/24, 2:24 pm - +~l or Smiley face: And how about cyclists doing their TOUR DE FRANCE on highway, during busy road conditions, etc
How about pedestrians?
Assuming they always have the right of way to the road! The mindset of human vs machines?
2/7/24, 2:24 pm - +Frankie Wee: I agreed to follow under law somehow bus driver too rush on timing. Example punishment for late arrival interchange.
2/7/24, 2:25 pm - +~l or Smiley face: One unintended future (current) situation is MENTAL HEALTH of drivers?
2/7/24, 2:26 pm - +~l or Smiley face: Frankie, thanks for supporting!
Bus and lorry are HEAVY WEIGHTED VEHICLES!
2/7/24, 2:26 pm - +Frankie Wee: We can learn developing from China those are auto driverless vehicles
2/7/24, 2:27 pm - +~l or Smiley face: Hopefully no signal issues etc....hopefully all proven, including Climate challenges!
2/7/24, 2:27 pm - +Frankie Wee: <Media omitted>
2/7/24, 2:27 pm - +~l or Smiley face: _International Inspiration_
Sweden's Vision Zero approach prioritises safety over speed, resulting in a 45% reduction in road fatalities between 2006 and 2019. Japan and South Korea have also made significant strides in road safety:
- Japan: Implemented elderly-friendly road design, cognitive tests for drivers over 75, and limited driver's licences for those with impaired cognitive functions.
- South Korea: Introduced a Road Safety Master Plan (2020-2024), elderly friendly road design, smart road technology, and strict vehicle safety standards.
- Australia's pedestrian safety campaigns have reduced pedestrian fatalities by 23% since 2018. These examples demonstrate the effectiveness of proactive road safety measures.
2/7/24, 2:30 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Most of the technologies deployed in China is what I mention in ST Kinetics technologies.
2/7/24, 2:33 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Except the floating wheel.
2/7/24, 2:34 pm - +Kenneth Lee WM: To add, in recent cases, it was also tragically due to pedestrians jay walking. Crossing where it was convenient for them with no regard to traffic.
As far as possible, LTA should get feedback (not wait for accident to happen) where those places are, and put in zebra crossings/ traffic lights. Not spend effort to justify why things should stay the way it is.
2/7/24, 2:40 pm - +Kenneth Lee WM: I can’t imagine what would happen if vandals spray painted the rd with alternate markings!
2/7/24, 2:41 pm - +Frankie Wee: https://www.straitstimes.com/forum/letters-on-the-web/one-dimensional-approach-used-to-select-street-lights
I would like to share about street light whole road in Singapore.
It will be developing use of connecting on to root bus travel timing. As we will know delay arrival onboard real time.
2/7/24, 2:42 pm - +Andy: If I'm not mistaken all the bus drivers have KPI to follow strictly like what time must arrive that's why u see sometimes the driver drive very slowly and waiting at the bus stop while nobody is there or driving faster than normal when they are pressed for time.
Also can the authorities check those drivers involved in the accidents, how many are foreigners(Malaysian who stays in JB travelling in/out to work as fatigue can lead to accidents), locals, age/gender group, how many days of working/overtime prior to the accident as lack of rest may result in lack of concentration, with data then can cater to effective training/refresher course.
And what is the pay of our bus captains, please pay them fairly so they don't have to depend on overtime to earn a decent amount. They have huge responsibility to get all passengers safely to the destination and at the same time got to ensure not to be involved in accident. Pilot is paid much more flying a plane carrying passenger, our bus captains daily ferries hundreds of passengers we need to pay them right.
Also when any driver is involved in any accidents, can the press refrain from using the driver is arrested. Just say driver is assisting in the investigation. Anyone can enlighten me if a driver is not at fault at all but there is injuries or fatality, he/she will still need to be jailed, fined or both. If so is very unfair to the driver. Sometimes is the fault of the pedestrian, cyclist, ebiker etc. Need to review the law if is the case.
2/7/24, 2:44 pm - +Frankie Wee: Hopefully developing will make it safe road
2/7/24, 2:45 pm - +~l or Smiley face: To relook at reward systems for public bus drivers. Incentives and bonuses to be part of Safety KPI and less off "meeting the timeline" !
2/7/24, 2:45 pm - +~l or Smiley face: _Best Practices for an Ageing Society_
Germany's elderly mobility programmes provide training and resources for older drivers. Canada's senior driver assessment and training programmes aim to improve driving skills and safety awareness. The UK's road safety strategies for older drivers focus on education and awareness campaigns. These initiatives demonstrate the importance of addressing age related challenges in road safety policies.
2/7/24, 2:47 pm - +~l or Smiley face: *I. Safety*
As Singapore's population ages, road safety becomes an increasingly pressing concern. The recent spate of accidents involving public buses highlights the need for a comprehensive review of road safety measures. This essay argues that ensuring road safety requires a delicate balance between safety measures, surety of convenience, and sanity of behaviour, particularly in an ageing society.
2/7/24, 2:51 pm - +Rama: Split shifts is a contributing factor for driver fatigue
2/7/24, 2:53 pm - +~l or Smiley face: _The Intersection of Age and Safety_
Singapore's ageing population presents unique challenges to road safety. Older adults are more vulnerable to injuries and fatalities due to decreased physical and cognitive abilities. Moreover, age-related declines affect their perception, reaction time, and decision-making skills, making them more susceptible to accidents. Therefore, inclusive road design and infrastructure are crucial to ensure safe mobility for all.
2/7/24, 3:01 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
The floating or suspension technologies only witness coming out from China.
Didn't see it anywhere in other parts of the world eg. High tech countries like USA and Europe.
Thought it will be interesting to LTA rail engineers to explore as it doesn't involve fixed track.
But Singapore MRT and LRT very developed everywhere already.
Not much room to explore such floating or suspension technologies.
2/7/24, 3:14 pm - +Frankie Wee: How about building underground for bus express without heavy jam traffic
2/7/24, 3:15 pm - +Frankie Wee: https://www.lta.gov.sg/content/ltagov/en/upcoming_projects/road_commuter_facilities/north_south_corridor.html
2/7/24, 3:22 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Underground mainly use by MRT.
Need to aircon.
More costly for bus.
Can be used as bomb shelter - secondary used.
Need signal control to avoid accidents - very difficult to extricate.
MRT has autonomous signalling system and collision avoidance in build.
Also safer with fixed track.
Bus don't have. <This message was edited>
2/7/24, 3:35 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Imagine if multiple buses involve in an accident underground.
Extrication will be very challenging.
MRT have very stringent command, control, communication and signaling systems.
Thales (a defence companies) that developed very complex command control communication and signaling systems for military, navy, air defence is our supplier of the MRT - with many safety and security features build in - to control precise movement of simultaneous train.
Buses in underground don't have such a system - and hence prone to accidents - and extrication will be a nightmare underground.
Worst if fire occurs.
Don't know how to escape - without turning roasted meat. <This message was edited>
2/7/24, 3:36 pm - +Rama: Similar to expressway tunnels
2/7/24, 3:37 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Normally more suitable for MRT.
2/7/24, 3:38 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Though I agree some are used for expressway - that are very wide with alot of space.
2/7/24, 3:40 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Buses now are mainly servicing the last mile as the main artery road are service by MRT.
The last mile are heavily build up HDB, condo or office space.
Not much spaces for underground.
2/7/24, 3:46 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
"Dozens hurt as turbulence prompts Uruguay-bound flight diversion to Brazil".
Aiyoh, clear air turbulence become more and more common - and results in injuries.
Airlines should quickly infuse technologies to detect clear air turbulence such as LIDAR sensors to detect clear air turbulence.
https://www.straitstimes.com/world/emergency-landing-in-brazil-after-turbulence-injuries-airline#:~:text=Dozens%20hurt%20as%20turbulence%20prompts%20Uruguay%2Dbound%20flight%20diversion%20to%20Brazil
2/7/24, 3:48 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
LIDAR sensors can detect clear air turbulence - to alert pilots to warn passengers and crews to return to their seats and fasten the seat belts to avoid air turbulence.
Nowadays, air turbulence is getting more common - and it cause injuries to passengers and crews.
I feel that Airlines should pressure aircraft manufacturers to install LIDAR sensors for all aircraft for the safety of human on board.
2/7/24, 4:04 pm - +REACH: 📢 *Topic* 📢
2/7/24, 4:09 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
An analogy, not possible to dig underground for a feeder bus to go vertical down in Nex and then come out vertically to land in Serangoon gardens - less than 10 km away.
(All around the spaces in these 2 areas are HDB, condos, and landed properties with alot of shophouses.)
Nowadays, feeder buses that service the last mile - often ply the build up areas with very limited space for underground bus. <This message was edited>
2/7/24, 4:10 pm - +Frankie Wee: Also woodlands interchange too
2/7/24, 4:11 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Yes.
Very limited underground spaces for many build up areas.
Underground are mainly for long haul, suburban places - with plenty of rooms.
2/7/24, 4:12 pm - +Frankie Wee: Believe possible can building lane underground
2/7/24, 4:12 pm - +Bhavani: We also should not continue digging and digging.
2/7/24, 4:13 pm - +Frankie Wee: Side bus stop maybe lane underground not too deeper
2/7/24, 4:13 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Sorry I don't understand.
2/7/24, 4:13 pm - +Bhavani: as this could destabilise the ground we are standing on
2/7/24, 4:16 pm - +~l or Smiley face: _"Safety Officer: Identify areas of strength and weakness, and provide feedback and coaching to improve their driving skills and safety performance."_
-- anonymity
2/7/24, 4:16 pm - +~l or Smiley face: _"The Safety Officer conducts unannounced check rides to observe and assess how drivers drive in real-time, without prior notice, to get a genuine snapshot of their driving habits and behaviors."_
-- anonymity
2/7/24, 4:19 pm - +Frankie Wee: Physical examination health requirements before take up job application.
2/7/24, 4:24 pm - +~l or Smiley face: *Using Technology:*
- Advanced Driver-Assistance Systems (ADAS):
- Lane departure warning
- Automatic emergency braking
- Adaptive cruise control
- Vehicle telematics:
- GPS tracking
- Vehicle health monitoring
- Driver behavior analysis
- Digital tools:
- Mobile apps for driver feedback and training
- Data analytics for safety insights
*Recurring Education:*
- Driver training programs:
- Defensive driving techniques
- Safety procedures and protocols
- Passenger management and communication
- Workshops and seminars:
- Driver wellness and stress management
- Safety leadership and accountability
- Incident investigation and analysis
- Online resources:
- Safety tutorials and videos
- Driver training modules
- Safety news and updates
2/7/24, 4:26 pm - +~l or Smiley face: _The Safety Officer's report may include:_
1. Driver strengths and weaknesses
2. Observations of safe or unsafe behavior
3. Recommendations for additional training or coaching
4. Evaluation of driver's ability to operate the vehicle safely
5. Identification of potential safety risks or hazards
6. Suggestions for improvements to driver training programs
7. Verification of driver's certification and licensure
8. Overall assessment of driver's competency and readiness to drive.
2/7/24, 4:28 pm - +~l or Smiley face: _Additional Observation:_
- Their driving techniques and skills
- Adherence to traffic rules and regulations
- Speed management
- Following distances
- Lane discipline
- Interaction with passengers and other road users
- Overall safety awareness and practices
2/7/24, 4:30 pm - +~l or Smiley face: Allowable OVERTIME clocked per week, per month per quarter!
2/7/24, 4:43 pm - +Frankie Wee: Good career job with skill and Attractive benefit also award long service
2/7/24, 5:00 pm - +REACH: 📢 *Oil sighted in sensitive habitats at Labrador, on Sentosa and Southern Islands: Desmond Lee*
*More:* https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/politics/oil-sighted-in-sensitive-habitats-at-labrador-sentosa-and-southern-islands-desmond-lee
📢 *Rental deferral measures in the works to help businesses affected by oil spill on ‘case-by-case basis’: Grace Fu*
*More:* https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/oil-spill-rental-deferral-measures-help-businesses-affected-marine-biodiversity-4451086
2/7/24, 5:16 pm - +~l or Smiley face: _*Monetary Awards*_
Recognising and rewarding bus drivers for their dedication, safety record, and excellent service is a wonderful way to motivate and incentivise them. The tiered award system provides a clear path for drivers to strive for, with increasing rewards for their years of service and commitment to safety and excellence.
_Reward Structure:_
- 5 years: up to $5,000
- 10 years: up to $10,000
- 15 years: up to $15,000
- 20 years: up to $20,000
- 25 years: up to $25,000
- 30 years: up to $30,000
With a potential cumulative award of $105,000 after 30 years of service, this program demonstrates a significant investment in recognising and rewarding drivers' hard work and dedication.
Requirements that include safety, work attitudes, public compliments, minor accidents, and no major accidents ensure that drivers are held to high standards, aligning with the organisation's goals and values.
2/7/24, 5:19 pm - +Dan: Road safety has always been an issue for all road users.
We have seen a rise of PMDs, delivery workers, cyclists on the road. There are riders and pedestrians not following safety protocol, riding against traffic, not wearing safety gear. You can feel that drivers are getting increasingly impatient, and easily triggered(try horning them)
Bus drivers are getting the brunt side because their job requires them to be on the road most of the time. Thats probability talking,
2/7/24, 5:24 pm - +Dan: I agree with another member of this group to look into the road signs and structures and see if they are bus worthy.
I would like to add one more to the list. The red bus lanes. Some of these lanes made it really difficult for some of the cars to make a left turn. I think we need to take a look at these bus lanes and made them more feasible for all road users. Otherwise it will be a hazard for all.
2/7/24, 5:26 pm - +Dan: I agree to this.
2/7/24, 5:30 pm - +REACH: 📢 *Singapore 'prepared in principle' to recognise a Palestinian state that rejects terrorism, accepts Israel's right to exist*
*More:* https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/palestine-israel-singapore-prepared-principle-recognise-state-reject-terrorism-4450696
2/7/24, 5:31 pm - +Rama: Palestinian will never accept Israel right to exist nor will their masters renounced terrorism!
2/7/24, 5:32 pm - +Frankie Wee: No war in religion whereabouts there in embassy house.
2/7/24, 5:33 pm - +~l or Smiley face: Painted road signages are meant to serve: Safety, Efficiency, Priority, Consistency, Regulation
2/7/24, 5:42 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
If both sides refuse to recognise either right to exist --- there won't be permanent peace.
Conflict will go on and on.
2/7/24, 5:45 pm - +~l or Smiley face: _"Singapore's recognition of Palestine's sovereignty has far-reaching implications for the Middle East peace process. By endorsing Palestine's right to statehood, Singapore may encourage other ASEAN nations to follow suit, potentially leading to a significant shift in the regional balance of power. This move could isolate Israel diplomatically, intensifying international pressure to resolve the conflict through a two-state solution. Additionally, Singapore's recognition may bolster the Palestinian leadership's negotiating position, enabling them to pursue a more equitable and sustainable peace agreement. Likewise, it may inspire greater regional cooperation and dialogue"_
-- anonymity
*Possibilities*
- Enhanced economic ties between ASEAN and the Middle East
- Increased cultural exchange and people-to-people diplomacy
- Collaborative efforts to address shared security challenges, like terrorism and cybersecurity threats
- Joint initiatives to promote sustainable development and environmental cooperation
2/7/24, 5:46 pm - +Rama: According to a intelligence officer from Iran recently on social media, terrorism war with Israel is a proxy for actual war with America!
2/7/24, 5:47 pm - +Rama: Doomed to failure!
2/7/24, 5:49 pm - +~l or Smiley face: <Media omitted>
2/7/24, 5:49 pm - +Rama: Iran will directly enter a conflict with Israel should a full scale war with hizbollah break out in Lebanon
2/7/24, 5:50 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
If Israel maintain 2 state solutions with Palestinian - Iran won't be able to instigate terrorism - because many Arabia states will support the 2 states solution.
2/7/24, 5:51 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Peace at heart, peace prevail.
Violence begin, violence ends.
2/7/24, 6:00 pm - +REACH: 📢 *Leong Mun Wai's comment about being called last to speak in parliament cast aspersions on Speaker's impartiality: Seah Kian Peng*
More: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/leong-mun-wais-comment-about-being-called-last-speak-parliament-cast-aspersions-speakers-impartiality-seah-kian-peng-4451151
2/7/24, 6:06 pm - +Rama: Wrong. Political and economic influence by China and Russia will ensure complications with Western plans.
2/7/24, 6:07 pm - +Rama: This fellow is a moron!
2/7/24, 6:08 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Take one step at a time.
To make a mountain, start with a hill.
2/7/24, 6:08 pm - +Rama: Too many moles over the years already!
2/7/24, 6:09 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Precisely thousands of years of bloodshed.
It is time to stop and heal
2/7/24, 6:12 pm - +Rama: Not enough prayers being said and offered by various religion around the world. Mankind at loggerheads with each other over race, creed, religion, social and economic status!
2/7/24, 6:12 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
1. Conflict cannot be stop by force.
2. Peace can only be made by change in heart
2/7/24, 6:13 pm - +Rama: Why attempt to wipe out the jews for the second time in history!?
2/7/24, 6:14 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
3. Jews can extend genuine solutions for peaceful coexistence and prevented the bloodshed.
2/7/24, 6:14 pm - +Rama: You mean they haven't but the blady Palestinian and arab Muslims!?
2/7/24, 6:16 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
No 2 state solution yet
2/7/24, 6:16 pm - +Rama: Will never happen!
2/7/24, 6:17 pm - ☸️ Danny 心: Eg.
Indonesia cannot rule Timor - too many conflict.
The moment Timor is allow independent - 2 states solution peace ensue - peaceful coexistence.
2/7/24, 6:18 pm - +Rama: Better if the whole of timor rather than just part split from Indonesia
2/7/24, 6:19 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Peaceful coexistence have to be negotiated.
2/7/24, 6:19 pm - +Rama: Exactly but as two whole separate sovereign states!
2/7/24, 6:20 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Eg. Mount of Olive can go to Jews and Christians.
Temple mount go to Palestinians Muslim.
Then religious peace will come.
2/7/24, 6:21 pm - +Rama: Original religious site on temple Mount is Jewish so both to the jews!
2/7/24, 6:23 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Mount of Olive mark the ascend of Jesus and the expected return.
Temple Mount mark the ascend of Muslim Prophet.
If both can settle this with goodwill - then permanent peace will come.
Else Israel and Palestine will be a permanent place of no ending conflict.
2/7/24, 6:24 pm - +Rama: Like I said, Islam came second to the temple Mount so reason not valid!
2/7/24, 6:25 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Well.
The bloodshed continue....
2/7/24, 6:26 pm - +Rama: Indefinitely until armageddon
2/7/24, 6:28 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Buddha birthplace, turning of dharma wheel, enlightenment and parinirvana - are in India and Nepal - both have turn Hinduism.
None of the 4 holy places are control or manage by Buddhist.
Indonesia borobudur Buddhist largest SE Asia is run by Indonesia Muslims.
But Buddhists don't fight for right to control.
Because Buddhists believe not in possession.
But Buddha is in the heart.
Hence no conflict, no bloodshed.
2/7/24, 6:28 pm - +Rama: Islam is utterly different!
2/7/24, 6:29 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Armageddon means eventual destruction of all holy places.
No one gain.
All lose.
Many followers perished.
2/7/24, 6:29 pm - +Rama: Yes
2/7/24, 6:30 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Many followers of all Abrahamic religions perished.
Will all denominations want this outcome?
Or all want peace and live with coexistence peacefully?
2/7/24, 6:31 pm - +Rama: Followed by a new world order
2/7/24, 6:32 pm - +Rama: Mankind is too blind by the seven deadly signs to realise their own folly!
2/7/24, 6:32 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
Everything external are Impermanent and subject to birth, living, decay, demise.
Conflict hasten the process and induce human sufferings.
Peace preserve the holy places and breed compassion and peace for all denominations.
2/7/24, 6:34 pm - +Rama: Conflict has followed most of mankind throughout history rather than peaceful coexistence!
2/7/24, 6:35 pm - ☸️ Danny 心:
It is in the heart.
Heart with compassion, peace and prosperity follow.
Heart with hatred, intolerant, refuse to give and take - violence, death and destruction follows.
Isn't all religions preach this philosophy?
2/7/24, 6:36 pm - +~l or Smiley face: *Leong vs Fair & Orderly*
_"The Speaker of the House has once again demonstrated his unwavering commitment to upholding the *highest standards* of parliamentary decorum and impartiality. In the face of *veiled criticisms* and *baseless accusations*, the Speaker has remained steadfast, ensuring that the integrity of the legislature remains intact. The dedication to fostering a culture of respect and constructive dialogue is truly commendable, and the leadership has been an *examplar of the principles* that our democracy holds dear. The Speaker's unwavering resolve to maintain order and decorum in the House is a testament to the unshakeable commitment to the institution and the people it serves."_
-- anonymity
2/7/24, 6:37 pm - +Rama: Very unprofessional member of parliament!
2/7/24, 6:37 pm - +~l or Smiley face: Street words...you are bluntly correct! Thanks!
2/7/24, 6:40 pm - +Rama: <Media omitted>
2/7/24, 6:40 pm - +Rama: Doesn't gel with his so called past!
2/7/24, 6:42 pm - +~l or Smiley face: Integrity and Character matters!
2/7/24, 6:45 pm - +REACH: *Dear Contributors,*
⏰ We will be closing the chat in *15 minutes* ⏰
Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Goodnight!
Megan 😊
2/7/24, 6:57 pm - +~l or Smiley face: _*Public Awareness*_
A 2-minute public education video clip depicting the slogan _*"Look out for each other... why hurry?"*_
_Script:_
(Opening shot: A busy road with cars and bikes and heavy vehicles speeding by)
Narrator: "Life is precious. Let's look out for each other."
(Scene 1: A senior citizen, Mrs. Lim, crossing the road with a walking stick)
Narrator: "Especially our seniors, who need a little extra time and care."
(Drivers slow down and give way to Mrs. Lim as she crosses the road)
Narrator: "A little patience can go a long way."
(Scene 2: A person with a disability, Mr. Kumar, using a wheelchair to cross the road)
Narrator: "And our friends with disabilities, who face extra challenges every day."
(Drivers slow down and give way to Mr. Kumar as he crosses the road)
Narrator: "Let's make sure they have the space and time they need."
(Scene 3: A mother pushing a stroller with a young child, crossing the road)
Narrator: "And our children, who rely on us to keep them safe."
(Drivers slow down and give way to the mother and child as they cross the road)
Narrator: "Why hurry? Let's look out for each other."
(Closing shot: A group of people from different age groups and abilities walking together, smiling)
Narrator: "Together, we can make our roads safer and more caring for everyone."
(End with the slogan "Look out for each other... why hurry?")
(Note: This script highlights the priority groups - seniors, disabled people, and children and shows how drivers can give them extra attention and care on the road. The video clip aims to promote empathy, patience, and understanding among road users.)
2/7/24, 6:59 pm - +~l or Smiley face: <Media omitted>
2/7/24, 7:00 pm - +REACH: *Dear Contributors,*
We will be closing the chat for today.
Thank you very much for being part of our WhatsApp chat and participating actively.
Goodnight!
Megan 😊
2/7/24, 7:00 pm - ~ REACH Singapore changed this group's settings to allow only admins to send messages to this group
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