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Ukraine accuses Russia of war crimes as mass graves of ‘executed’ civilians found in Bucha

Ukraine said the shooting of hundreds of bodies near the capital was a ‘deliberate massacre’ and urged G7 nations to impose ‘devastating’ sanctions immediately

The claims came as air strikes targeted key infrastructure in the Black Sea port city of Odesa, which has largely been spared in the conflict

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Agence France-Presse

Published: 8:00pm, 3 Apr, 2022

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1. Right is right. Wrong is wrong.  

2. Invading another Country is wrong.  

3. Russia invading Ukraine is wrong - and violate UN charter.  

4. Similarly, China is protesting against Russia territorial land dispute "“The history of Vladivostok (literally 'Ruler of the East') is from 1860 when Russia built a military harbor.” But the city was Haishenwai as Chinese land, before Russia annexed it via unequal Treaty of Beijing."  

So is China accord the same treatment to Ukraine similar to China protest against Russia?

 5. Measure an action with the same yardstick - else it will become an unprinciple hypocrisy.

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How many countries were invaded by the US since the UN exist ? Was any of them in violation of the UN Charter...? So... now the same US, is using it against any Country it wishes... because it is above any Charter or any Law... because of its Armada ? Then there was those countries that was before the UN Charter too. Not even talking about the UK... and its colonies.As long as there is 1 Ukrainian, in the Ukraine; the NATO problem will always exist... and, if NATO would attack or Invade... the US would be free to say..." I didn't invade or attack" ...? As far as I am concern... using Europeans, or NATO  to start a War in Europe... Puts Europe in danger. It doesn't protect it...as per the Charter of NATO. OR Using NATO to wage Wars outside of Europe......See More

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@Eric L. Could not agree more. Certain people just keep preaching peace without looking back what US has been doing over the last 50 years, and number of innocent people were killed during these US attacks on other overseas countries, etc etc.

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@Eric L. US is wrong by invading other Countries. So is Russia. No other Countries support US when it invade Iraq on the false pretext of nuclear weapons. The same yardstick - of moral principle. So is China according the same yardstick to both US and Russia?

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@Richard C. If don't preach peace, preach war? What US did is wrong - say so. What Russia did is wrong - say the same. Don't use a wrong to justify another wrong - if China want to be credible in the eyes of the World.

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@Babe B. Else the World will be difficult to accept China playing a role in arbitrating World affairs - failure to differentiate what is right from wrong - but only serving self-interest.

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@Babe B. How many people actually practice - li, yi, lian, ci (courtesy, righteousness, honesty, shame). Don't need a moral master to tell you so.

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@Babe B. Let you admit US Government was wrong to commit all those WAR crimes FIRST because it was done over the last 50 years. It must be punished so we know the level of punishment to US Government FIRST before we could know how to handle Russia.

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@Richard C. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/16/iraq.iraq 

UN declare that US led war against Iraq is illegal and violated UN charter.

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Iraq war was illegal and breached UN charter, says Annan

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@Richard C. What is China stand on Russia invasion of Ukraine?

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@Babe B. UN had also found US drone killing of Afghan family of ten including three children violated UN charter too and what US had responded back to UN, absolutely nothing. You still did not know China had expressed neutral to this crisis but not surprised to new March2022 user name like you.
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@Babe B. I give you 1/2 points only... but will had an other point then...If Ukraine is allowed to become a NATO(US) member, what prevent the US, from putting missiles 5 to 8 minutes away from Moscou, or less than 1 mn from their Naval base, on the Black Sea ?Having done so... what prevent then the US from lanching a an attack when ever they feel like it ?Do you really believe that Russians would tolerate that ?Would you tolerate having Russian missiles 2 minutes from your home... ?Don't bother answering me... I know your answer.The US gave Russia its answer on that particular point... and Russia didn't have any other alternative, but to move in... Zelensky wanted the US missiles on its territory.So your Ukrainian invasion, is mainly defensive, to the...See More
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@Babe B. The number of fronts the US/UK, or the West has... are not helping.  Spending money on war machines... is not invested toward solutions, but toward more problems... for any body else, on the Globe. Actually it is not even solving the problem facing their own population either, in the West. So tell me were are the benefits... in all that created chaos, and auto-spiralling down vortex ?
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@Eric L. 1. Why Ukraine want to join NATO and not Russia? 
2. Is it because NATO offer better economic opportunities and better governance? 
3 So if the other bloc did not pressure Ukraine to join but Ukraine want to join on its own accord - then shouldn't Russia do soul searching how to improve its economic attractiveness and better governance - instead of forcing people at gunpoint? 
4. You can't force people to befriend you with gun. 
5. You only can win over people with your heart, your economic benefits and your good governance.
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@Richard C. "China had expressed neutral to this crisis" - Good!

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@Babe B. 
1. Now Russia invade Ukraine - more Countries want to join NATO - namely Finland and Sweden - which are neutral Countries. 
2. So you think forcing people at gunpoint - people scared? 
3. It bring about the exact opposite effect - and in addition, incur the wrath of the majority of the global Countries. 
4. The greater the coeercion - the greater the rebellion. 
5. Only if you can win people's heart - then you inherit the master of softpower.
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