REACH (Telegram) 68 - What are your views about Singapore's ability to thrive in an increasingly turbulent world? What can Singapore do to ensure that we maintain our global relevance while preserving our national unity?

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21 Mar 2025 (10am - 7pm)

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REACH Singapore, [21/3/2025 9:48 AM]

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REACH Singapore, [21/3/2025 9:59 AM]

📢 Topic 📢

At the recent Singapore Budget Symposium 2025 on March 19 (Wednesday), Prime Minister Lawrence Wong highlighted that the world was becoming more turbulent and dangerous amidst rising geopolitical tensions. He emphasised the need to strengthen Singapore's national solidarity, maintain its economic fundamentals and plan for the long term.

💬 What are your views about Singapore's ability to thrive in an increasingly turbulent world? What can Singapore do to ensure that we maintain our global relevance while preserving our national unity?

📌 Increased global instability

During the forum, PM Wong highlighted how the US-China rivalry has intensified, noting that the US sees China as a strategic threat and wants to prevent it from overtaking America. He warned of a profound change in the global order, which is becoming “more like a lawless jungle where might is right”. 

“We cannot change these global trends. But we can shape our response to these trends,” PM Wong said.

📌 How Singapore can respond to global challenges

He outlined several key approaches to how Singapore can respond to these challenges, such as maintaining the nation’s pro-business environment, being open to trade and planning for the long term, including studying the possibility of deploying nuclear energy.

PM Wong also emphasised the need to strengthen national solidarity through robust tripartite partnerships, highlighting the “Singaporean way” of collaboration between the Government, unions, workers and businesses.

“This partnership is going to be more important than before,” he said.

📌 Support for businesses

PM Wong also highlighted the Government's commitment to supporting businesses, underlining the vital role businesses play as the backbone of Singapore’s economy.

He touched on several key initiatives aimed at strengthening the enterprise ecosystem, including immediate cost relief through a corporate income tax rebate and cash grant, adjustments to the work permit framework, and a private credit fund to improve access to capital. He also mentioned that the Government was enhancing support for business transformation, worker training, and access to government schemes to help companies remain competitive.

PM Wong also emphasised that while the Government may not be able to grant every Budget request, it remains committed to addressing key concerns through alternative means. He cited the example of businesses calling for relaxed foreign worker parameters. While acknowledging their concerns, he explained that loosening restrictions could lead to an overwhelming influx of workers, straining Singapore’s infrastructure. However PM Wong said that the Government could continue to find alternative solutions like allowing companies to retain skilled workers for longer periods and expanding access to workers from non-traditional source countries.

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👉🏻https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/singapore/economy-policy/singapore-government-will-take-industry-feedback-seriously-business-ties-grow-more-important-pm-wong

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365, [21/3/2025 10:06 AM]

There's no permanent allies or foes, only permanent interest. We should be working to ensure singapore's stability is of interest to other countries, while not becoming a threat to them.

We would do well to learn from Ukraine's mistake, it doesn't matter if you are morally in the right, if you agitate or threaten those stronger than you while no allies have any interest vested in you, you will be in for a hard time.

Diplomacy and balance is one aspect I have faith in our government from their historical performance.

Khai Mun L., [21/3/2025 10:14 AM]

Cannot depend fully on economic strengths. Need to continue commit to military and recruiting.

 no matter how rich you are, if no power to protect, everything is smoke and taken easily

G, [21/3/2025 10:41 AM]

Since when has the world ever been smooth and unturbulent, safe and undangerous?

This "turbulent and dangerous" rhetoric has been overused to fearmonger. This itself is dangerous

What is dangerous is Singapore still being heavily involved in foreign entities that have track records of interfering with countries' domestic politics (e.g. WEF). 

How much has Singapore's domestic politics been interfered with? How much sovereignty do we have left?

REACH Singapore, [21/3/2025 11:00 AM]

[ Poll : I am confident that Singapore can continue to thrive amidst a more uncertain global environment. Please share your reasons in the chat.  ]

- Strongly Agree

- Agree

- Neutral

- Disagree

- Strongly Disagree

REACH Singapore, [21/3/2025 11:03 AM]

Dear Contributors,

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We look forward to hearing your thoughts on today’s topic!

Thank you.

Megan 😊

J See, [21/3/2025 11:05 AM]

I am confident we will survive however everyone and myself included we and I need to wise up n do self care and not sit back at home and wait for providence to drop from the sky la … I am not different from other senior retirees and so I told myself I need to do many things and be grateful … hope you all understand

J See, [21/3/2025 11:06 AM]

Exactly!!!

J See, [21/3/2025 11:07 AM]

And don’t tell your neighbours how rich you are !!!

J See, [21/3/2025 11:07 AM]

Be humble .. be kind

Khai Mun L., [21/3/2025 11:21 AM]

While having muscles and bouncers to guard your property.

(Reference to our military protecting sg assets)

Hanny, [21/3/2025 11:37 AM]

When you live in Singapore, you need to be aware of world affairs. Myopic world view will get you crushed by giants. 

Gov needs to help its people to understand the world. Not easy. The mp on the ground can help. 

One thing I’m sad is CNA reporting on the world is very one sided.

Khai Mun L., [21/3/2025 11:40 AM]

I find that CNA perspective is fine though.

At least better than russia or china media

Hanny, [21/3/2025 11:43 AM]

Not when it comes to world affairs

J See, [21/3/2025 11:54 AM]

News … is also a business 🥹

J See, [21/3/2025 11:54 AM]

It’s a very tough world

J See, [21/3/2025 12:01 PM]

Agree … and Singaporeans need to stay vigilant and be exposed to different cultures and difference but yet I qualify we need to be grateful to our pioneers and armies and all the systems that helped us to be where we can be in just 60 over years.  Sure we r not perfect but we have electricity.. and most of our children went to school

J See, [21/3/2025 12:03 PM]

However we have more and more pressures being regional and global… our future depends on Singapore!!! And 😂😍 CPF

Hanny, [21/3/2025 12:04 PM]

CPF is underestimated by many

Adam, [21/3/2025 1:35 PM]

Singapore will thrive in an uncertain global environment. Singapore is stable, without much change in governance and policies, which favors the rich and companies. 

Singapore is defended by all its men and doesnt have to pay much for it. Its policing and ambulances, firefighters too. All residents benefit from this.

In an uncertain global environment, this makes singapore a shining oasis among the unstable countries. Rich will flock to singapore for all its benefits. Their assets protected by our system. They might become new citizens too, and get a hdb.

Yes singapore can continue to thrive amidst an uncertain global environment. Whether born singaporeans will thrive is another question.

Joomua Tng, [21/3/2025 1:56 PM]

it is a fantasy.

currently Singapore still able to do that.

but when the world fallen to extreme global political extremism..

there will be no room for navigation.

.........

REACH Singapore, [21/3/2025 2:02 PM]

📢 Topic 📢

Khai Mun L., [21/3/2025 2:16 PM]

'national solidarity' is important. We should not be attacking within ourselves.

E.g. just read news that 200+ people involved in scams. Why these scammers target own people, quite ridiculous

LCL (Danny 心), [21/3/2025 2:26 PM]

*Geopolitical tussling and transformation*

1. The geopolitical global order has suddenly turn nasty since the past few years - whereby SuperPowers turn against one another.

2. 2 big factors trigger it:-

a. Economic factors - whereby market economy and globalisation has transformed the top 1% to 5% into ultra rich - and wealth has not been redistributed to the other 95% to 99% of the population through government tax transfer - hence resulting in voters voting in Government that adopt populist policies and edge out globalisation - triggering trade tension.

b. Political factors

i. Geopolitics - whereby strong and big countries exert their "might is right" over smaller and weaker countries - in territorial rights and geopolitical influence.

ii. Domestic politics - moving to more nativism, protectionism, xenophobic - as majority of the population didn't benefit from the wealth gained through market economy and globalisation (as wealth are concentrated on the top 1% to 5%) without wealth redistribution through government tax transfer - hence have trigger more populist momentum in electing populist government that are more protectionist.

3. In this context, our Government will need to be more nimble and flexible to navigate such transforming global order - and ensure we can continue to survive and thrive.

As a small little red dot, to earn a GDP US$600 billion every year to feed 5.6 million population, and with a well educated workforce (with continuous training through Skillsfuture), we should be able to maintain and improve our GDP from the Global GDP of US$106 trillion - as our traditional market changes and become more difficult to trade and do business.

MTI, EDB, IE Singapore, MFA, will have to work harder to make this happen.

Steven Ong, [21/3/2025 2:33 PM]

Now the Chinese is trying to avoid the Malacca route to Europe and travel via the Arctic route. May cause loss of fees to SG on long-term..

LCL (Danny 心), [21/3/2025 2:39 PM]

*Domestic Affairs - Internal Politics*

1. The biggest threat is always from "within".

2. If internally, our population are not unified and stand behind our Government - but indulge in internal politiking, then Government will not be able to muster the brightest brain in the Cabinet and Government to tackle the Global disorder that are unfolding.

3. This is a "no brainer" - Government will be distracted to fight internal threat than concentrating on strategising to tackle external threats that are brewing.

4. Hence come General Election, we should give a strong mandate to the Government - rather than holding on to the flaw malfunction democracy of having more voices in the Parliament - because the best brain are in the Government that can help to formulate good policies to keep Singapore afloat, survive and thrive.

5. Failing to do so, we will be shooting ourselves on our feet and backfire on us.

Jun Ming, [21/3/2025 2:44 PM]

Try to be self efficient as much as possible

Jun Ming, [21/3/2025 2:45 PM]

Build taller buildings and taller factory to give space for food production

Jun Ming, [21/3/2025 2:45 PM]

Don't just build a 20 storey instead build a 70 storey building for commercial and residential purpose

Jun Ming, [21/3/2025 2:47 PM]

So there is more space to harvest other resources

365, [21/3/2025 2:48 PM]

In construction, the taller the building, the more risk and strain there is in structure. That's why there are some projects with HDBs of different heights, after accounting for terrain limitations as well.

It is an exponential effort and risk for each additional storey added on.

Jun Ming, [21/3/2025 2:51 PM]

Then our world class engineers should come out with a solution.

Khai Mun L., [21/3/2025 2:51 PM]

Can try be self-sufficient, but would locals willing to pay more? 

Hawker price increase a little then we complain so much already. Or we still buy cheaper overseas egg/veggie compared to local goods.

Jun Ming, [21/3/2025 2:51 PM]

That's why must increase production to reduce prices

LCL (Danny 心), [21/3/2025 2:51 PM]

*Domestic Affairs - Fiscal transfer of wealth*

1. Personally, I think our Government has done well to mitigate the flaw of a raw Capitalism -- that reward entreprenuership, hardwork and elite who bring in wealth to the country - but wealth are concentrated on the top few percent.

2. Singapore fiscal transfer of wealth - that creatively collect the tax from the wealthy through GST, COE, ABSD, property tax, stamp duties etc - when the ultra wealthy willingly buy luxuries goods such as luxury houses, buy luxuries good, luxury cars, etc ---- allow our Government to accumulate fiscal revenue without chasing away the ultra-rich taxpayers - allow the Government to redistribute tax collected to benefit our 95% to 99% of our population.

3. Our population receive GST voucher, CDC voucher, SG60 vouchers, medisavve topup, senior bonus, edusave, skillsfuture topup, business grants etc from the enormous tax revenue collected.

4. This will help our population to mitigate against cost of living, inflation hike, GST hike, buy HDB flats with large government grants etc -- and maintain our standard of living.

5. Our workforce will also get grants to reskill and upskill. Our business will also get grants to employ our local workforce.

6. All these are measures to enhance our social compact.

7. Hence our population must continue to support and vote the incumbent to be our Government come the next Election - instead of clipping their wings - that will backfire on us - as we need the best brain in the Government.

Khai Mun L., [21/3/2025 2:51 PM]

Tall buildings also come with risk. If lift breakdown, or must re-route plans not take that flight path

Jun Ming, [21/3/2025 2:53 PM]

We can have creative solutions

Khai Mun L., [21/3/2025 2:53 PM]

Or people complain that their fireworks view is now blocked😅

365, [21/3/2025 2:54 PM]

They are still humans, not miracle workers. Even the smartest brain is still subject to the laws of physics.

Building upwards is a very simple answer that I'm sure many, including those in government would have thought of.

However, the issue arises from feasibility and execution limitations.

Jun Ming, [21/3/2025 2:54 PM]

We cannot deny possibilities of having a higher altitude airport.

Like how China develops deep seek. Don't we have our local talent?

Khai Mun L., [21/3/2025 2:56 PM]

We might have, but are we paying them enough to stay? Plus china so much people to choose from, higher odds of geniuses.

One of reasons why their sportsmen often win medals. Selection of the best from large pool

Jun Ming, [21/3/2025 2:58 PM]

As always boasted by the gov we have high salary aren't that enough

Jun Ming, [21/3/2025 2:59 PM]

Or what is stopping them for contributing back to Singapore

Khai Mun L., [21/3/2025 3:01 PM]

Which local company can pay as much as large cooperations e.g. meta, telsa, or saudi Arabia with their oil money?

365, [21/3/2025 3:02 PM]

Resources. Limited resources means less available to be provided for research effort, or any singular aspect of resource allocation. With china's size, there is economies of scale, requiring less resource per headcount as well.

Those who managed to innovate new breakthroughs are exceptions, and shouldn't be held as the norm. We have to be reasonable with expectations.

Khai Mun L., [21/3/2025 3:02 PM]

Or put another way, if i offer someone a million $ to eat sand, people would jump for it

Jun Ming, [21/3/2025 3:03 PM]

Yes I will jump for it cause I no money

Jun Ming, [21/3/2025 3:04 PM]

We have the best universities sometimes I don't understand why can't we innovate and boost our innovation

Jun Ming, [21/3/2025 3:04 PM]

Like how many people knows what is being innovated in Singapore

Jun Ming, [21/3/2025 3:06 PM]

I see many innovation created in Singapore why aren't them using it in the market? They pop up once in news and then poof they are gone

365, [21/3/2025 3:08 PM]

Did you know thumb drive is invented by a local company? Too bad they were late to register patents and therefore many other companies can just copy it.

Singapore is also leading in certain areas of medical research. These kind of efforts are often invisible to the public because it is not widely advertised for consumerism.

Jun Ming, [21/3/2025 3:09 PM]

This is why we need to advertise them so to acknowledge their effort

Jun Ming, [21/3/2025 3:09 PM]

Even Singaporean don't know what we are good in how to survive?

Jun Ming, [21/3/2025 3:10 PM]

How do you sell our good points to other countries

365, [21/3/2025 3:10 PM]

They are reported in the news, it's just that few people will be interested in them.

365, [21/3/2025 3:11 PM]

Your average consumers will be drawn in by our tourism measures, these research efforts are targeted that those who are involved in the field. While the average person may not know about this, I'm pretty sure those within the field would have knowledge of it.

Jun Ming, [21/3/2025 3:12 PM]

It needed to be broadcast in radio and TV and congratulate them and to inspire people to work on it, innovate it

LCL (Danny 心), [21/3/2025 3:13 PM]

*Foreign International Relationship*

1. Remain true to Universal core values - right moral, consistent policies that attract trade, business, investment and talents, be a trusted and reliable international partners.

2. Uphold and strengthen globalisation, trade, investment, business with like-minded international business partners.

3. Strenghten business ties, digitalisation with our trade blocs eg. ASEAN, China, India, Asia Pacific, and the various continent eg. EU, Middle East, US, S America, Central Asia, Africa - to ensure we are able to make up for any loss trade, business and investment by exploring new markets, new trade, new investment, new business to maintain and increase our GDP.

4. Be a voice of reasons in the United Nation and World Bodies. No one will dispute the voice of reasons - one day, it will be heard and adhere to.

Jun Ming, [21/3/2025 3:13 PM]

Hence Different field will know the technology and might combine them for better use

365, [21/3/2025 3:16 PM]

You'll get challenges from people asking the government to be humble, why so boasterous and why wasting so much budget on showing off.

Really cannot appease everyone.

Jun Ming, [21/3/2025 3:18 PM]

At least write some classical examples in our textbook

Jun Ming, [21/3/2025 3:19 PM]

Like usb no one ever knows it is invented by sg and we are using it everyday

LCL (Danny 心), [21/3/2025 3:24 PM]

*Domestic Affairs*

1. Ramp up local R&D.

2. Continuous training to ensure our workforce and students keep the skillsets up to date and be useful to the industry sectors.

3. Policies to continue to attract high value added investors, talents, travels etc - to ensure our Economy remain vibrant and relevant and create high value, high salaried jobs for our local population.

4. Ensure close social compact - through fiscal wealth transfer, social harmony, and population must unite behind our Government.

5. There must be a relook into our trade, global supply chain, investment directions --- whereby our Government work closely with business, trade unions and workers to look into niches and transformed global trade route - and help businesses and workforce to look for alternative global supply chain, markets, business, investment to ensure we are able to recover loss grounds.

Always feel that our little red dot economy, GDP and smaller population as compared to larger countries with larger population to feed - will be less challenging (provided our population and voters are solidly behind our Government).

Don't create problems to our Government lah.... - and shoot ourselves on the foot.

This external threat is no joke - because it threaten our ports, airports, trade, supply chain, business, investment and our jobs, our livelihood and our future.

Hanny, [21/3/2025 3:29 PM]

There are many things that don’t become viral. Last year, an nus spinoff company was acquired by a global leader in code security solutions.

Hanny, [21/3/2025 3:30 PM]

This is the power of r&d

Jun Ming, [21/3/2025 3:32 PM]

More r&d needed for construction, if we can reduce foreign construction worker on building buildings, bigger and taller buildings and faster construction I am sure we can create more space for other stuff

Khai Mun L., [21/3/2025 3:32 PM]

'sg built highest building in 196x.'

'opens 1st night safari'

Can boast/advertise a lot of things, but are they still relevant? Even the thumbdrive case, youngsters nowadays might not even know what is that device

RY, [21/3/2025 3:35 PM]

Similar to Covid pandemic with many uncertainties, our govt was able to lead us thru

Hence, I am confident that the govt has the ability to lead amidst the changing world political unstability also 

Trust & Resilience & Solidarity will be essential factors, to tide through this forthcoming crisis together hand-in-hand

Khai Mun L., [21/3/2025 3:35 PM]

Hmm, contradicting though. Who's going to construct these buildings you speak of? We don't see locals taking up these jobs.

Or are you saying don't cater living conditions for such workers so we have more physical space? There are more efficient methods

Jun Ming, [21/3/2025 3:38 PM]

You see if we use technology to reduce workers such as things like painting from 10 workers reduce to 5

Jun Ming, [21/3/2025 3:39 PM]

So ai to take over low wage workers rather than high wage workers

Hanny, [21/3/2025 3:43 PM]

AI will improve productivity level of knowledge workers. If you don’t embrace it, your productivity level will drop.

Khai Mun L., [21/3/2025 3:44 PM]

AI is not a cure all, and it cannot apply to every single job.

Even if can, it's not now. Still have much more years before it can do large scale

Hanny, [21/3/2025 3:44 PM]

Financial industry is embracing AI fast n furious. There are already casualties.

Hanny, [21/3/2025 3:45 PM]

Locally we have DBS making the news.

Khai Mun L., [21/3/2025 3:45 PM]

Manual work is still needed. Robot sweep the floor, inject needle into humans, feed your baby etc

Hanny, [21/3/2025 3:45 PM]

Global banks are doing the same thing

Khai Mun L., [21/3/2025 3:47 PM]

But whether they actually do it or regret this choice in future is still unknown. Furthermore, those replaced are mostly 'knowledge' workers. Up to debate what is definition of that

Hanny, [21/3/2025 3:47 PM]

Fortunately there is a massive effort to educate workers in sg.

Hanny, [21/3/2025 3:50 PM]

Significant impact would be felt before 5 years. The development of AI is fast. There is a new tool every week

LCL (Danny 心), [21/3/2025 3:52 PM]

1. Just asking, during banking I have still not come across dealing with AI.

2. Still talking to bank staff.

3. Which part of customers interaction are with AI?

Just curious.

Hanny, [21/3/2025 3:52 PM]

Nothing at front end yet. Right now it’s all back end.

LCL (Danny 心), [21/3/2025 3:53 PM]

I see.

No wonder I didn't feel the impact of AI from banking yet.

Hanny, [21/3/2025 3:53 PM]

The bank needs to be comfortable first before pushing this to the front

Hanny, [21/3/2025 3:53 PM]

It will take a few years

LCL (Danny 心), [21/3/2025 3:53 PM]

Just curious which aspect of AI are applied to banking?

Hanny, [21/3/2025 3:54 PM]

Everything

LCL (Danny 心), [21/3/2025 3:54 PM]

Can give an example?

Hanny, [21/3/2025 3:54 PM]

For example, analysis of customer preferences or behavior.

Khai Mun L., [21/3/2025 3:54 PM]

Actually, not much. AI just leads to more/better(?) calculations or predictions

Hanny, [21/3/2025 3:54 PM]

Audit

LCL (Danny 心), [21/3/2025 3:55 PM]

You mean AI take over audit?

Hanny, [21/3/2025 3:55 PM]

Assisted by AI

LCL (Danny 心), [21/3/2025 3:55 PM]

This data analysis are done by humans and spreadsheet previously.

Hanny, [21/3/2025 3:56 PM]

Remember that the wording is assisted , not replaced.

LCL (Danny 心), [21/3/2025 3:56 PM]

I see.

But need human to feed inputs to AI?

And AI do correlation and then interpret results?

Hanny, [21/3/2025 3:57 PM]

Hence you need to embrace, understand its capabilities

Hanny, [21/3/2025 3:57 PM]

Developers are using copilot

Hanny, [21/3/2025 3:57 PM]

Increasing their productivity by a lot

LCL (Danny 心), [21/3/2025 3:58 PM]

Hmm..

I have not seen AI in action over business functions yet.

But I have seen AI performing over scientific functions and engineering.

Hanny, [21/3/2025 3:59 PM]

Your big excel file can be analyzed in a few minutes

LCL (Danny 心), [21/3/2025 3:59 PM]

Eg. Code generation is one of them.

LCL (Danny 心), [21/3/2025 3:59 PM]

I see.

Hanny, [21/3/2025 3:59 PM]

Not just generating but also peer review

LCL (Danny 心), [21/3/2025 4:01 PM]

I see.

But I guess humans must verify and value add to AI generated outputs.

Else if hallucinations or wrong analysis can be problematic.

LCL (Danny 心), [21/3/2025 4:01 PM]

[21/03, 4:00 pm] ☸️  Danny 心: Can generate Cisco config in 2 routers connectivity with ospf routes?

[21/03, 4:00 pm] Meta AI: Here is a basic Cisco configuration for two routers to establish OSPF routing:

*Router 1 (R1)*

enable

configure terminal

! OSPF Configuration

router ospf 1

 network 10.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0

 network 10.1.2.0 0.0.0.255 area 0

! Interface Configuration

interface GigabitEthernet0/0

 ip address 10.1.1.1 255.255.255.0

 no shutdown

interface GigabitEthernet0/1

 ip address 10.1.2.1 255.255.255.0

 no shutdown

end

*Router 2 (R2)*

enable

configure terminal

! OSPF Configuration

router ospf 1

 network 10.1.2.0 0.0.0.255 area 0

 network 10.1.3.0 0.0.0.255 area 0

! Interface Configuration

interface GigabitEthernet0/0

 ip address 10.1.2.2 255.255.255.0

 no shutdown

interface GigabitEthernet0/1

 ip address 10.1.3.1 255.255.255.0

 no shutdown

end

This configuration establishes an OSPF adjacency between R1 and R2, allowing them to exchange routing information. The network statements under the OSPF configuration define the networks that will be advertised by each router.

Please note that this is a basic configuration and might need to be adapted to your specific network topology and requirements. Additionally, you should ensure that the OSPF process ID (in this case, "1") is the same on both routers.

REACH Singapore, [21/3/2025 4:02 PM]

📢 Topic 📢

LCL (Danny 心), [21/3/2025 4:03 PM]

See, Meta AI generated the Cisco config source code in seconds.

But cannot just use it.

Need humans input, amendment and verification.

Humans' input is still needed.

Else the config cannot run in a live production environment.

It will crash the live system

Eg. The IP address number for the organization is not correct, need to change.

The subnet mask is not properly sub allocated because it uses up all the 255 sub address for a 2 point-to-point route that only need 4 IP address (for broadcast and network address) - this AI has wasted 251 IP addresses.

The area 0 is a routing backbone, and any changes to routing topology will cause the entire WAN (wide area network to go unstable because routing tables changes in the internet) - may need to change it to area 10 for example.

Need to provide test cases to test the route between the 2 routers and routing to the outside world.

Network engineer need to do network troubleshooting.

Hence GAI cannot replace the job of a network engineer.

Network engineer can use GAI to help to generate the code doubly fast, but network engineer are still needed to check, amend, generate test cases and troubleshoot the code generated by GAI.

So this scenario is like workers using computer to increase their productivity but not replacing their jobs.

Hanny, [21/3/2025 4:10 PM]

One silver lining for sg. Even though we are considered as high cost center, companies are still hiring in sg. Sg is also considered as favored location for hiring.

Hanny, [21/3/2025 4:11 PM]

At least for financial industry

LCL (Danny 心), [21/3/2025 4:34 PM]

Actually, Singaporeans workers just need to perform any of the 3 roles in AI and we will be fine:-

1. AI creators (Basic research/ Applied research)

2. AI developers (eg. What DBS are doing in AI)

3. AI users (the above Cisco config example that I posted earlier)

Our jobs will still be intact if we do any of the above.

LCL (Danny 心), [21/3/2025 4:38 PM]

Many Singapore R&D AI can do the AI creators roles in our local Universities and top R&D agencies.

AI like DeepSeek knowledge distillation, chatgpt LLM, even multimodal AI etc - our AI R&D agencies and universities can do it - in case people don't know.

Except we didn't announce to the news.

LCL (Danny 心), [21/3/2025 5:38 PM]

Btw though arctic route is shorter from China to Europe, it is still not the preferred trade routes because of the following reasons:-

1. Very little port of calls in between - unlike Singapore Malacca straits with Asia Pacific ports, ASEAN ports, Australia and new Zealand ports, India ports, middle east ports and Africa ports and Europe ports, US and S America ports.

Shipping lines are not maximising its cargo load.

2. Arctic route are fiercely contested by US, EU, Canada versus Russia and China that make trade routes dangerous.

3. Need ice breakers to break ice that can damage normal ships.

REACH Singapore, [21/3/2025 6:01 PM]

📢 Topic 📢

LCL (Danny 心), [21/3/2025 6:20 PM]

Also our digital economy that through tie up with many countries via FTA and multi lateral FTA will pull all the countries that trade with us into our global supply chain via the digital transactions.

Hence shippers even those China ones will have to make the port of call in our ports to load and unload raw materials, parts, intermediate goods and finished goods to the various countries.

Hence Arctic route is not a showstopper for us.

We can control the global supply chain through digital means.

LCL (Danny 心), [21/3/2025 6:23 PM]

Hence we need the best brains in the government to navigate and build more new global supply chain via our ports.

More voices make more noises - that will distract our government to navigate the treacherous journey in front of us.

We need more brains in the Parliament not more mouth that make more noises.

LCL (Danny 心), [21/3/2025 6:33 PM]

That is, we use virtual technology (digital economy) to tie foreign countries trade and business to our physical ports and our established global supply chain through the multiple bilateral and multi-lateral FTAs we sign with so many countries.

Ensuring trade, shipping route, ports of call, and cargoes will flow through our ports.

Ensuring business vibrancy and securing high value jobs for our population.

Jun Ming, [21/3/2025 6:38 PM]

Off track a bit can the government do something on the massage industry? 

Everywhere I go they provide happy ending without a chance of rejecting. 

Maybe ethical test is needed before they have licence and every year renew once.

Some massage therapist told me they live a living through happy ending massage as their company don't give them salary or they need to meet a 10k KPI per month to get salary. 

So government do something please. The industry is too corrupted

Jun Ming, [21/3/2025 6:42 PM]

Raids are not useful as police can't possibly raid every massage place. So some legalisation on owner before opening the shop and therapist before getting license is needed

REACH Singapore, [21/3/2025 6:45 PM]

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REACH Singapore, [21/3/2025 7:01 PM]

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